It’s so awesome to show everyone all the little tricks I’ve learned over the years! There’s plenty more to come so make sure you subscribe so you don’t miss any!
I've done a lot of these and I always make a fixture and have the drill bushing ground flat against the hexagon so when the drill goes through it is supported from beginning to the end. It is very accurate and clean. The drill hole is also lubricated from beginning to the end. Nice technique. I work alot with fixtures and precision ground bushings. It is extra work but worth every dollar.
Love the video! More ESPRIT!!! I think I'm getting a GT32 as well. Can you do a video on the machine layout please? I need live tooling facing the X axis on path 2, and B axis on path 1 and 2 Thanks Donnie! You are the man
I love these videos. I only run a manual lathe and mill for the occasional one-off part. These little tips still come in really handy. Thanks for sharing the knowledge fellas.
Hey, really like the way that you edited the simulation to be the same perspective that was being shown in the machine. It really "ties" everything together, just like those wire holes.
I love the GOdrill series from kennametal. I run a production in titanium grade 5 in which i use a 3.5mm 5xD drill. Last time i changed it, it had made 20.000 holes. The holes are 12.5mm deep so that adds up to 250 meters of drilling. And the drill is stationary. Thats impressive for an all-round drill 😊
Thank you again for the awesome video. I will be honest I'm just a home tinkerer with lowly home built CNCs but it is so awesome to see stuff like this and the processes behind it!
we build those and use flat bottom drills to pre drill but cut hex first, this is by far the best approach as we’re constantly breaking drills & emills
i'm working on nearly same parts from a week now, and i had the same idea than you at first.. But my superiors tells me to drill the holes after hexagon (i'm a little frustated).. I'm so glad to see i has a good idea at first !!! thanks ^^ (and thanks also for the "deburring trick", i think i will modified my program next monday ;D )
Donnie, great job explaining the wire hole. Having never seen bolts with wire holes personnelly, I am curious as to whether there is just the one hole or two in a bolt like that?
Probably been asked before, what software are you using? Titan seems attached to mastercam and we are looking to program a tornos dt38 with mastercam. Would be great to know your thoughts.
Little tricks with big happenings, I've been watching your content for a while now so ... ya ... love your content bro ... actually like it , technically im an electrical and electronics engineer with an embedded systems specialisation, so tell me are u guys in California? ... im in India right now ... so ... is there a part time thing for masters students like me ? ... or are the positions filled up ? ... anyways really respect your hard work and quick fix thinking ... looking forward to working with u guys someday ! ...
I'm a data engineer, not a mechanical engineer, but I find the parallels between our two fields interesting when it comes to thinking through optimal, repeatable processes.
Would like to see some trocoidal turning of a hex. The old in and out on the cross slide. Instead of polygonal or milling hex. I have an excel program to do it.
You mention tool wear. Can you guys talk about how you track and measure tool wear and breakage? I know the functions in my tools to do it. I just don't have a refined process for doing it Like, how often do you use the function? How do you test and measure wear on new tools you add to your inventory. Do you just have technicians on every machine with their thumb on the button? Help us, Obiwan CNCobi! You're our only hope!
i think i forgot commenting this on the flat-bottom drill video if i have weird holes, i tend to do 2 roughing stages with drilling between them with the surfaces from roughing 1 being flat towards the holes as shown here. it generally pays off in how fast you can drill and how long the tool lasts, even if the program takes a bit more time.
On the part shown at 0:24, the safety wires are going thru the bolt heads on some, and also thru something like a washer on others. Does the washer-looking part have a thru hex? If not, how does that method compare to the thru hole method?..just wondering if anyone has more insight...don't wanna screw up when I start designing aircrafts now. Also, have anyone ever noticed better tool life and/or higher chip loads with using HSS or Cobalt rather than carbide in some materials on tiny holes?
Thanks for the tip. You guys amazing! Can anyone recommend a good .5 inch tool for axial circle milling on a lathe? I have different diameter holes and they have to be chamfered too but my lathe only has one axial station right now so I have to do some multitasking. Can I do this with only one tool. Must be at least 2 inch loc.
@@brandons9138 I'm not sure what you mean by LFV, but we machine a lot of plastic, the machine can feed in a way were it breaks the plastic swarf up, so it don't go stingy and rap round everything. I stopping working on the shop floor as a CNC turner, because a get in pain standing up all day now. So I've gone over to the dark side of inspection, but I do miss being on a Mill Turn Puma lathe.
@@mw8580 It has to come equipped from the factory with it. The ball screws are specially designed and treated for the extra abuse the LFV puts on them. It's not some thing that can be added later.
Or you could use a Crazy Cross Pilot from Mikron and repeatably pilot on the hex angle, come back in with a crazy drill into EVERY aero space material, and run this lights out through every shift. Crazy Drills FTW
Esprit. MasterCAM is kind of new to the Swiss machine programming from what I've seen. The post processors for Swiss machines can be very hard to get right. Esprit has given me error free code for the last 4+ years I've been using it.
It’s little tricks like this that can make a massive difference! Nice work Donnie! Great work on the graphics and editing as well!
It’s so awesome to show everyone all the little tricks I’ve learned over the years! There’s plenty more to come so make sure you subscribe so you don’t miss any!
Is that software Esprit?
Wow! where did you learn that trick?
I've done a lot of these and I always make a fixture and have the drill bushing ground flat against the hexagon so when the drill goes through it is supported from beginning to the end. It is very accurate and clean. The drill hole is also lubricated from beginning to the end.
Nice technique. I work alot with fixtures and precision ground bushings. It is extra work but worth every dollar.
This is how I've done it before. It's a second operation, but still quicker than what's shown here. Though not everyone has the 2nd machine available
The way they twist those wires to keep the bolts from loosening is so genius
I learned something new today 😅!
Yeah i have secured some screws as an trainee at Beechcraft on the wheels, when we had to clean and re grease the wheel bearings.
Our lives are on saved by twisted wires...and A PERSON. Hmm, i smell an engineer who didn't account for operator error.
I now know what wire holes are used for! Great job Donnie - and I ALWAYS watch to the end. That's where all the "gems" are.
😂 thanks ma!
LOVED this one. And thanks for making sure I don't die in an airplane. I appreciate that.
Love the video! More ESPRIT!!! I think I'm getting a GT32 as well. Can you do a video on the machine layout please? I need live tooling facing the X axis on path 2, and B axis on path 1 and 2
Thanks Donnie! You are the man
This was a fun one Donnie
I love these videos. I only run a manual lathe and mill for the occasional one-off part. These little tips still come in really handy. Thanks for sharing the knowledge fellas.
Awesome video Donnie!
Hey, really like the way that you edited the simulation to be the same perspective that was being shown in the machine. It really "ties" everything together, just like those wire holes.
Great job man! Saving a lot of big headaches with these little tricks.
Great tip, Donne! I know how frustrating it can be when you have a hot job, difficult feature, and a tooling shortage.
I love the GOdrill series from kennametal. I run a production in titanium grade 5 in which i use a 3.5mm 5xD drill. Last time i changed it, it had made 20.000 holes. The holes are 12.5mm deep so that adds up to 250 meters of drilling. And the drill is stationary. Thats impressive for an all-round drill 😊
Double Rainbow OMG!! Great video Tyler and Donnie
Thank you again for the awesome video. I will be honest I'm just a home tinkerer with lowly home built CNCs but it is so awesome to see stuff like this and the processes behind it!
we build those and use flat bottom drills to pre drill but cut hex first, this is by far the best approach as we’re constantly breaking drills & emills
Very cool video! Thanks for sharing this info!
@6:00 I always make it to the end of your videos :D
The side by sides of the tool and animation are really awesome and helpful. You guys are going for it, for sure.
The side by side with the simulation is perfect. Keep doing that please
Great guide to this, enjoyable presentation.
Love that u put a clip of Flight in there 😂
ESPRIT CAM for Swiss Machining, best in class programming and simulation right there!
Donnie is Just a Natural when it comes to being in front of a Camera , Great Content as Always 👌
Great tip Donnie! Would be great to see more simple but practical videos like this👏
I wanna learn everything keep these videos coming. You guys are the best
Beautiful work!
Great video, your editing is getting better! Nice non-wobbling videos are good. Keep putting out great content like this!
oh that's a GREAT way to put lockwire holes in parts! I'll have to start doing it that way!
Hello TITANS! Why don 't you write processing for these machines in MasterCAM ?
Awesome, as usual.
i'm working on nearly same parts from a week now, and i had the same idea than you at first.. But my superiors tells me to drill the holes after hexagon (i'm a little frustated).. I'm so glad to see i has a good idea at first !!! thanks ^^ (and thanks also for the "deburring trick", i think i will modified my program next monday ;D )
Donnie, great job explaining the wire hole. Having never seen bolts with wire holes personnelly, I am curious as to whether there is just the one hole or two in a bolt like that?
The ones I've secured always had 1 or 3. But I guess that depends on the part
@themechanix393 thanks for the reply.
Will it be possible to teach the viewers on programming the parts in ESPRIT CAM Software.
So you are just doing things i was doing 40 years ago, good for you.
Donnie's drill then mill technique helps keep us safe AND improves tool life. BOOM!
Love the programming tips. Keep up the good work.
Probably been asked before, what software are you using? Titan seems attached to mastercam and we are looking to program a tornos dt38 with mastercam. Would be great to know your thoughts.
Definetly want to see some content on esprit software.
Great tip! More simple but practical videos!!!
Still waiting on that A3-20 PDF Donnie! 🤣🤣
Little tricks with big happenings, I've been watching your content for a while now so ... ya ... love your content bro ... actually like it , technically im an electrical and electronics engineer with an embedded systems specialisation, so tell me are u guys in California? ... im in India right now ... so ... is there a part time thing for masters students like me ? ... or are the positions filled up ? ... anyways really respect your hard work and quick fix thinking ... looking forward to working with u guys someday ! ...
Been making parts like this for quite a while and never considered doing it the “wrong way.” 😅
I'm a data engineer, not a mechanical engineer, but I find the parallels between our two fields interesting when it comes to thinking through optimal, repeatable processes.
Great, but this piece was programming with Esprit Cam, right ?
Hello,
is there any reason you dont use polygonal turning for hexagon? Wouldnt it speed up the process?
Zbigniew
Would like to see some trocoidal turning of a hex. The old in and out on the cross slide. Instead of polygonal or milling hex.
I have an excel program to do it.
Ok, at least i know intuetivly how to do this.... thanks for confermation!
So I've learned this very thing being a beginner. Always drill holes first, usually. Then do pockets and or milling 2nd.
Does the larger stock cost offset the longer too life? Seems you like you are saving in one area for it to be taken away in the other.
love these videos! MORE
You mention tool wear.
Can you guys talk about how you track and measure tool wear and breakage?
I know the functions in my tools to do it. I just don't have a refined process for doing it
Like, how often do you use the function? How do you test and measure wear on new tools you add to your inventory. Do you just have technicians on every machine with their thumb on the button?
Help us, Obiwan CNCobi! You're our only hope!
In certain applications the sharp edge could break the wire, so radiusing the hole would be better. Either by shotblasting or grinding??
Cool Donnie, clear info as always..... Who parcs his car besides the machine?
A drive-in 😂
Very nice.
For me the best part was, when you say about Incenol :)
Good watch ty.
Yx1.1547 Mind blown…..after all these years you come into my life ❤😂
Nice video, what CAM software are you using here?
Esprit. Really powerful CAM software.
i think i forgot commenting this on the flat-bottom drill video
if i have weird holes, i tend to do 2 roughing stages with drilling between them with the surfaces from roughing 1 being flat towards the holes as shown here. it generally pays off in how fast you can drill and how long the tool lasts, even if the program takes a bit more time.
1:46 missed opportunity for the “wow” sound bite
Absolutely awesome!!! 👏💪🙏
Genius! New to me. Great video Donnie 💪 drill drill chill lol!
On the part shown at 0:24, the safety wires are going thru the bolt heads on some, and also thru something like a washer on others. Does the washer-looking part have a thru hex? If not, how does that method compare to the thru hole method?..just wondering if anyone has more insight...don't wanna screw up when I start designing aircrafts now.
Also, have anyone ever noticed better tool life and/or higher chip loads with using HSS or Cobalt rather than carbide in some materials on tiny holes?
There are drilling fixtures that do the same thing. That's how most of us do it with out fancy CNC machinery and they are not expensive.
I've been in metalworking industry for 5 years now.
I have never seen this genius tactic
Good tip Donnie. I feel like an idiot because I honestly didn't know that's what those holes were for. lol Super cool though
LV THIS THANKS doo more of this
Im just gonna ignore the car haha, Great Tips btw
Whats the reason for conventional cutting when milling the hex?
Great vid guys would love a couple of blooper vids lol.
Crazydrill bro
Nice you are sharing these tips
MasterCam must hate these videos hahaha
Good maybe they'll stop charging like $15k per machine license lol
what program did he use ?
What program do you use for programming and simulation?
Esprit.
I see ESPRIT! When will there be tutorials on it?
There is a lack of ESPRIT tutorials.
Thanks for the tip. You guys amazing! Can anyone recommend a good .5 inch tool for axial circle milling on a lathe? I have different diameter holes and they have to be chamfered too but my lathe only has one axial station right now so I have to do some multitasking. Can I do this with only one tool. Must be at least 2 inch loc.
Maybe an end mill with a corner chamfer? Without knowing more about the part/feature it's hard to really make a good suggestion.
What CAM software is that?
you can find these wire embroiding on Brittish and US machines , it was a trick to expell sabotage
You are giving away my best secrets.
more please
We just had a new L32 Citizen sliding head turn up yesterday, it's the best way to get the price down on the work, so we can
get the orders.
L32's are nice. We have 15 of them at my shop now. Do you have the LFV option?
@@brandons9138 I'm not sure what you mean by LFV, but we machine a lot of plastic, the machine
can feed in a way were it breaks the plastic swarf up, so it don't go stingy and rap round everything.
I stopping working on the shop floor as a CNC turner, because a get in pain standing up all day now.
So I've gone over to the dark side of inspection, but I do miss being on a Mill Turn Puma lathe.
@@mw8580 The LFV is that chip breaking option. We do a ton of plastics at my shop as well. The LFV (Low Frequency Vibration) is a game changer.
@@brandons9138 Yes that is what we use , I just didn't know the name, but I don't think they have it on the M32's yet
@@mw8580 It has to come equipped from the factory with it. The ball screws are specially designed and treated for the extra abuse the LFV puts on them. It's not some thing that can be added later.
brilliant. I asked about this 25 years ago. They said dont fk with the program
Какая CAM система у них стоит, подскажите, пожалуйста
I am just mading these, but not that small hole that is doing other guy later :D Maybe we will reconsidere way to do this.
Nice!
Or you could use a Crazy Cross Pilot from Mikron and repeatably pilot on the hex angle, come back in with a crazy drill into EVERY aero space material, and run this lights out through every shift. Crazy Drills FTW
EVERYBODY watches till the end when you're doing a howzitdone vidjeo.
Well explained 👍
amazing
Good commercial💪
Awesome
I would love to see the donnie esprit tricks video.
hum This process could reduce the fails of these holes. I spent 13 in navy working on ea-6b so ripped out and replaced allot to safety wire.
YAAAAAASSSSSSSSS - Good job Donald
I think it's more appropriate to chill and then drill, and then chill a little bit more. Too much drilling will cause friction issues.
Watch the show air disaster’s and you’ll know that bolts become loose over time and people die
Bogus parts have cost LIVES
Titan can retire soon, Donnie is stepping up well
Over a million pieces how much is that extra stock costs verses the machining process?
What software is it, it's not mastercam
Esprit. MasterCAM is kind of new to the Swiss machine programming from what I've seen. The post processors for Swiss machines can be very hard to get right. Esprit has given me error free code for the last 4+ years I've been using it.
I used safety wire I the Army to secure bolts on weapons.