to answer your question, you can have more than 2 436H's deployed on a gateway, its just about the hexes covered. for example, you have a directional antenna, which means just that direction is covered. if you want to farm the hexes, or "allow for more connections when CBRS is turned back on", then you would place 2 in that direction. you can literally just turn the 3rd antenna a different direction if your location is good in multiple directions. Even if you put up an omni antenna on top of another omni antenna, a 3rd 436H with a directional can still go further in that direction - it'll get .25x on the triple covered hexes and 1.00x on the uncovered hexes further away in that direction.
Yes, same gateway. You can run an ethernet cable from one of the three enb ports on the gateway into the poe switch's port for internet, then from the switch to say 3 nova430h's and 2 indoors. For the other two enb ports, those can be used for 2 436h's. @@DoItJustinKace
Hello Justin , Thank you for your informative videos ! I have recently deployed an outdoor wifi unit and have a question . To see if I could increase covered hexes i aimed the unit in a different direction and updated the direction in setup but after a day or so have not seen any change in the hex map ??? Should the map in the Helium Geek app have reflected the direction change ?? Thank in advance for your reply , Harry .
It could take a couple days before you see something updated on the planner map. You should compare it with the hotspotty map or some of the other mapping options out there. They get updated faster than that planner map.
Thank you so much for your videos, i live 1.3 miles from Animal Kingdom park in orlando, there is a swamp between us, i've put mine location using 430H miner on the planner but it says i can do only 900 mobiles per day, it's not covering inside the park, what i belive it's gonna make a huge rewards. Is there anything I can do to make mine signal get coverage there ? Your antenna is covering how many miles ?
There’s no way you’re going to cover miles. CBRS doesn’t reach that far. You could try that 18 DBI directional antenna on a 436H. Put that in the planner and see what it tells you.
I was thinking of buying a helium outdoor unit, would it even be a good idea? I have a community college nearby and i live on the 3rd floor of my apartment. I used the planner to map out my area and it said I could roi in 2/3 months. Would that be accurate after the recent hip?
I don’t Think I’ll jump in another helium project in a while, I tried getting in on the hype when helium hotspots first came out. Miner was back ordered, for over 7 months and I just said cancel it, bought one on eBay for 4x retail. By the time I set everything up rewards were down so much. Lots of people getting screwed with rewards. Timing is always key
I accidentally transferred ownership to the wrong Wallet address. I’ve been trying to contact customer service. Been waiting for over a month no response you know how I can get assistance for this.
That’s a pretty bad accident. Did you go onto Discord and try to talk to somebody? Don’t let anybody directly DM you. But try to talk to somebody within the actual channels.
@@DoItJustinKace the fact your about to ROI for everything in around two weeks tho is really good but hopefully your still getting good numbers after 30days 🤞
@@COACHHELLYEAH after I ROI I am less concerned. I just want to at least get my money back and cash out that money. I’ll show you all how I’m gonna cash out once I get to that point.
It all depends on the footfall hex map, essentially only the combination that starts with A will get the 1X. Anything lower than 1X is anyone’s guess as far as rewards goes (it may go up or down compared to today)
how much do you make with your outdoor hotspot in a month? i want to buy one and i think i am in a really good spot but idk 😅 (Cabo San Lucas, Baja California Sur, México.)
Good luck! I hope to ROI in the next 10 days. So I should be good.
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@@DoItJustinKace Thank you I'm going to need it 😆 Not the end of the world though the money I used to buy these units came from helium mobile mapping on both my and my wife's phone from day one.
This will be interesting. My outdoor miner (430h) will be covering fields next to a major highway. Horrible land coverage, but great footfall coverage.
@@DoItJustinKace , got installed about an hour ago. From about 430pm to 630 pm every weekday, I am staring at bumper to bumper traffic. But, it's a rural area. Lots of farmland. But, I feel like we are shirking those that make our food. Doesn't the dude on the tractor deserve good coverage too? I don't think farm and field coverage should have diminished rewards. Although I suppose the people that make our food are used to being underappreciated. Where would we be without farmland? Most people like to be able to eat. Just waiting on registration approval.
So far most 436 r getting lions share of rewards even though they are in residential areas I contacted Baicell engineers & they informed me that Baicell ideal locations are shopping centers. I set mine up in shopping centers with surrounding shopping centers only to discover that rewards are solely given to 436 Baicells regardless of best location set up. Cheers to all
sadly I made the decision to return everything. My area is not updated so with HIP 103 I probably make nothing. I wonder how long until they update the maps.
Are we still waiting on the hip that will separate the indoor hot spots and the outdoor hot spots I have two of each and don't know if I should unplug one indoor so that I get rewards on both outdoor once they are functioning or will it always give the higher rewards to the better devices @@DoItJustinKace
Yea make me wonder if nova hog and other companies halt sell for the 436h antenna even do helium deploy has them in stock they didn't want to sell it to customers because they had strong beliefs hip 103 will pass so it seems the company selling the equipment have insider trading information
@@DoItJustinKace got a helium deploy email saying how they have 436h in stock but halt sell of them because of hip 103 kind of weird that they would halt sales of something they have in stock when people want them 😔 just another way to control the floo of tokens to those that already have the antennas
Well at least yours are approved and earning some tokens. I ordered the large 430 bundle back on January 18th. And helium deploy still refuses to send my gateway. They just keep making excuses. They finally refunded my extra shipping cost. I paid for express shipping. Has anybody else bought and not received the product, especially gateways?
I'm going to list my new freedomfi gateway soon on eBay. Paid like $900 cant return, still sealed. Probably sell for $500, Unfortully with HIP 103 my area hasn't even updated.
I bought the 436H bundle from the helium deploy website, and they didn’t ship the kit, so I messaged them asking for a refund. They said they would check with the finance department and then ghosted me. I filed a claim with American Express, and they returned my money about a day later.
The things going on with IOT that Justin hasnt fully covered yet. One HIP passed giving more rewards to rural vs Urban (they changed transmit scales in dense areas), my overall rewards dropped about 20% as im mainly urban and my two rurals increased a decent % but not enough to offset. And one other HIP where they made bidirectional antennas mandatory and banned gamers more frequently also passed. Edit: but i guess why care about IOT when your making $400 in MOBILE per day lol
Nova lab technically they do halving every 6 months . 0nce every 2 years and twice a year by doing updates like every 6 months they have new plans new updates . For me i stopped investing with them and what ever i have I'll keep it running.
You may want to put your credit card away😂. Fuckin dying 🤣 Man im like 30k deep in this helium gig. Made some good coin but have a bunch of IOT hardware im not even motivated to deploy. I have a CBRS set up that made good coin. I think im just gonna let it all ride again. Looks like a rinse and repeat model. I have high hopes but dam. Its one worse change after bad ones. Come on helium. Lets get it together!
This is what I brought up about people not using the data. If they don’t switch SIM cards it’s pointless and we won’t get rewarded for data. Helium doesn’t promote their cell service. Bad marketing
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How are you sir ,, I have divide bobcat and Mntd gold one what I can do to reward mony from them ??! What the solution please
I still don't get what the future holds on this.
I figure they got 5 years to make it work or sell themselves to another company. Everyone wants to get bought out.
to answer your question, you can have more than 2 436H's deployed on a gateway, its just about the hexes covered. for example, you have a directional antenna, which means just that direction is covered. if you want to farm the hexes, or "allow for more connections when CBRS is turned back on", then you would place 2 in that direction. you can literally just turn the 3rd antenna a different direction if your location is good in multiple directions. Even if you put up an omni antenna on top of another omni antenna, a 3rd 436H with a directional can still go further in that direction - it'll get .25x on the triple covered hexes and 1.00x on the uncovered hexes further away in that direction.
Yeah, but how do people do 6? That’s crazy and kinda worthless to me it seems. No rewards above 3x
you can run more than 3 by using a poe switch between gateway and cells.
Yeah, but these are on the same gateway.
Yes, same gateway. You can run an ethernet cable from one of the three enb ports on the gateway into the poe switch's port for internet, then from the switch to say 3 nova430h's and 2 indoors. For the other two enb ports, those can be used for 2 436h's. @@DoItJustinKace
So where's the best place to follow the voting and what has passed and what has not?
Heliumvote.com
@@DoItJustinKace thank you
How many outdoor wifi hotspots can be in one cell before the gains go down? Im reading 3 and im reading 2 also..
gain go down past 1 by 25%.
Hello Justin , Thank you for your informative videos ! I have recently deployed an outdoor wifi unit and have a question . To see if I could increase covered hexes i aimed the unit in a different direction and updated the direction in setup but after a day or so have not seen any change in the hex map ??? Should the map in the Helium Geek app have reflected the direction change ?? Thank in advance for your reply , Harry .
It could take a couple days before you see something updated on the planner map. You should compare it with the hotspotty map or some of the other mapping options out there. They get updated faster than that planner map.
Keep in mind if the price keeps rising we will continue to make the same amount of $$$
value of MOBILE? Sure.
Does this mean that x1.00 will be worth more since a lot of other coverage providers are being cut their rewards drastically?
I’m at .35 so I guess so.
Thank you so much for your videos, i live 1.3 miles from Animal Kingdom park in orlando, there is a swamp between us, i've put mine location using 430H miner on the planner but it says i can do only 900 mobiles per day, it's not covering inside the park, what i belive it's gonna make a huge rewards. Is there anything I can do to make mine signal get coverage there ? Your antenna is covering how many miles ?
There’s no way you’re going to cover miles. CBRS doesn’t reach that far. You could try that 18 DBI directional antenna on a 436H. Put that in the planner and see what it tells you.
too far i think
My outdoor Wi-Fi only makes 900 mobile a day.. planner said it would make a lot more
I'm in the same boat as you sadly
Same here, less and less by the day. Make almost as much with the mobile mapping.
Check the heliumgeek app. That's where I'm at because my friend's internet is slow. Sucks.
Are you getting data thru it?
@@WassupFred I think I’m there was some two days ago. Someone was using helium that day. But super little.
I was thinking of buying a helium outdoor unit, would it even be a good idea? I have a community college nearby and i live on the 3rd floor of my apartment. I used the planner to map out my area and it said I could roi in 2/3 months. Would that be accurate after the recent hip?
use the planner. see what it tells you you'll get.
Am I clear in thinking these hip’s won’t affect urban areas?
Depends how urban. Suburban may get affected.
I don’t Think I’ll jump in another helium project in a while, I tried getting in on the hype when helium hotspots first came out. Miner was back ordered, for over 7 months and I just said cancel it, bought one on eBay for 4x retail. By the time I set everything up rewards were down so much. Lots of people getting screwed with rewards. Timing is always key
I feel ya. I’m looking at crank today. Seems interesting.
I accidentally transferred ownership to the wrong Wallet address. I’ve been trying to contact customer service. Been waiting for over a month no response you know how I can get assistance for this.
That’s a pretty bad accident. Did you go onto Discord and try to talk to somebody? Don’t let anybody directly DM you. But try to talk to somebody within the actual channels.
Ones a device has been transferred to a Wallet theirs nothing you can do 😢
Does the planner start showing you how much you can earn with hip 103 implemented?
Not yet.
So I wonder if this means rewards will go up for urban setups maybe?
I’m pretty sure it will. How much is anyone’s guess. But you’ll have to wait at least 30 days to find out.
@@DoItJustinKace the fact your about to ROI for everything in around two weeks tho is really good but hopefully your still getting good numbers after 30days 🤞
@@COACHHELLYEAH after I ROI I am less concerned. I just want to at least get my money back and cash out that money. I’ll show you all how I’m gonna cash out once I get to that point.
It all depends on the footfall hex map, essentially only the combination that starts with A will get the 1X. Anything lower than 1X is anyone’s guess as far as rewards goes (it may go up or down compared to today)
Is it even worth to buy an indoor mobile hotspot, if I live in the city?
Hard for me to justify the indoor hotspots.
How many days did the approvals take?
Took me just 1. But the first time was over a holiday weekend and took 5.
@@DoItJustinKace mine was last night at 8pm lol when I sent in the info
how much do you make with your outdoor hotspot in a month? i want to buy one and i think i am in a really good spot but idk 😅 (Cabo San Lucas, Baja California Sur, México.)
Not much. Is that area boosted? If it is, that means 100x rewards and just DO IT!
thanks for the video, what app is that ?
Which one? Helium Geek?
Non-Urban area here will I ROI by the time 103 is implemented? We'll see!
Good luck! I hope to ROI in the next 10 days. So I should be good.
@@DoItJustinKace Thank you I'm going to need it 😆 Not the end of the world though the money I used to buy these units came from helium mobile mapping on both my and my wife's phone from day one.
@ one day? WOW, you might have been a really early adopter!
@@DoItJustinKace Day one to mid December correction. I wish all tokens came from day 1 earnings 😂
This will be interesting. My outdoor miner (430h) will be covering fields next to a major highway. Horrible land coverage, but great footfall coverage.
Will be? When does it arrive?
@@DoItJustinKace , got installed about an hour ago. From about 430pm to 630 pm every weekday, I am staring at bumper to bumper traffic. But, it's a rural area. Lots of farmland. But, I feel like we are shirking those that make our food. Doesn't the dude on the tractor deserve good coverage too? I don't think farm and field coverage should have diminished rewards. Although I suppose the people that make our food are used to being underappreciated. Where would we be without farmland? Most people like to be able to eat.
Just waiting on registration approval.
Hello justin, so México its inside on the 103 hip? Will recieve rewards?
Yes. Plus some areas are boosted. So they will get a 100x multiplier.
So far most 436 r getting lions share of rewards even though they are in residential areas I contacted Baicell engineers & they informed me that Baicell ideal locations are shopping centers. I set mine up in shopping centers with surrounding shopping centers only to discover that rewards are solely given to 436 Baicells regardless of best location set up. Cheers to all
Location still matters. Some are better than others. Long term malls make sense for data.
by way i set up my outdoor wifi hotspot about how long does it take to earn rewards its been 1 day 23hrs w no action?
@@DoItJustinKace
sadly I made the decision to return everything. My area is not updated so with HIP 103 I probably make nothing. I wonder how long until they update the maps.
Where did you order it from? I know helium deploy didn't allow returns.
i took the safe route and order through a@@DoItJustinKace
@@DoItJustinKace amazon
@@latinracer82 gotcha. Glad you could return them.
6 is the limit but i think u can do a full DAS setup i have tested that yet
I only see three connections on the back of the FreedomFi. So I just don’t get it but then again, I never tried.
@DoItJustinKace you can use a splitter between POEs.
Excellent Summary. IMO residential area deployment are in risk of losing rewards because footfall is what determines if you’re gonna get 1X or not.
Yep. And no one is walking near my house. Park is getting footfalls tho.
Are we still waiting on the hip that will separate the indoor hot spots and the outdoor hot spots I have two of each and don't know if I should unplug one indoor so that I get rewards on both outdoor once they are functioning or will it always give the higher rewards to the better devices @@DoItJustinKace
Yea man, as long as u ROi, bro 2weeks ?? That’s a blessing.. u should be good!!
Agreed! Counting the days!
@@DoItJustinKace we are cheering 📣 you on!
Yea make me wonder if nova hog and other companies halt sell for the 436h antenna even do helium deploy has them in stock they didn't want to sell it to customers because they had strong beliefs hip 103 will pass so it seems the company selling the equipment have insider trading information
I think insider trading really relates to stocks, but yeah, they know what they want to do and how to make it happen regardless of how it effects us.
@@DoItJustinKace got a helium deploy email saying how they have 436h in stock but halt sell of them because of hip 103 kind of weird that they would halt sales of something they have in stock when people want them 😔 just another way to control the floo of tokens to those that already have the antennas
Well at least yours are approved and earning some tokens. I ordered the large 430 bundle back on January 18th. And helium deploy still refuses to send my gateway. They just keep making excuses. They finally refunded my extra shipping cost. I paid for express shipping.
Has anybody else bought and not received the product, especially gateways?
I'm going to list my new freedomfi gateway soon on eBay. Paid like $900 cant return, still sealed. Probably sell for $500, Unfortully with HIP 103 my area hasn't even updated.
Call your credit card company and dispute it. That's crazy. I bought my gateway on Ebay so didn't have an issue.
I bought the 436H bundle from the helium deploy website, and they didn’t ship the kit, so I messaged them asking for a refund. They said they would check with the finance department and then ghosted me. I filed a claim with American Express, and they returned my money about a day later.
Does this affect the IOT earnings?
Nothing to do with IOT. So no.
The things going on with IOT that Justin hasnt fully covered yet.
One HIP passed giving more rewards to rural vs Urban (they changed transmit scales in dense areas), my overall rewards dropped about 20% as im mainly urban and my two rurals increased a decent % but not enough to offset.
And one other HIP where they made bidirectional antennas mandatory and banned gamers more frequently also passed.
Edit: but i guess why care about IOT when your making $400 in MOBILE per day lol
With the 436h on the way , goosebumps for me 🙄🙄
Good luck!
Good luck
Those examples are not making over 300000 mobile a day…it must be lifetime…you are currently killing it. ROI FTW!
It's daily man. If I can make 140,000, they can make 300,000 daily. Crazy tho.
The other day I put my phone in the room under my outdoor wifi and let twitch run for a while and I was ranked 31st in data transfer. lol
Nice! I can’t even connect to the one on the roof unless I’m in my kids rooms.
😂😂
I had my two phones watching 16k TH-cam videos. I was ranked 4th for data. I used my 25 GB limit and then couldn't get mapping rewards for a week.
@@wicked_42x 😂 yea .. I mean u might as well, drain the piggy 🐷 bank.
lol you don't have "30 days to do it" if you are deploying in a city.... ya know, where the coverage is desired
Ha! Point taken. Just saying 30 days before things change.
Nova lab technically they do halving every 6 months .
0nce every 2 years and twice a year by doing updates like every 6 months they have new plans new updates . For me i stopped investing with them and what ever i have I'll keep it running.
I still have my old IOT miners running.
I have 90 of them took me a while for ROI, but now all they do is pennies
You may want to put your credit card away😂. Fuckin dying 🤣
Man im like 30k deep in this helium gig. Made some good coin but have a bunch of IOT hardware im not even motivated to deploy. I have a CBRS set up that made good coin. I think im just gonna let it all ride again. Looks like a rinse and repeat model. I have high hopes but dam. Its one worse change after bad ones. Come on helium. Lets get it together!
I always come in when the shit goes to shit. Glad I made ya smile tho.
This is what I brought up about people not using the data. If they don’t switch SIM cards it’s pointless and we won’t get rewarded for data. Helium doesn’t promote their cell service. Bad marketing
Agreed. Can't wait for the sim to come out for using a CBRS.