Rare Runaway 7.3 Power Stroke Diesel, You won't believe what happened.
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DO NOT tell me how you would unhook or yank the power cables off I needed a 13mm to disconnect them, that wasn't a option. I was trying to tap on the solenoid to get it to stop.
THIS TRUCK FAILED TO START BECAUSE OF WEAK BATTERIES, the starter solenoid had stuck causing the starter to keep running, not the relay under the hood, but the SOLENOID MOUNTED DIRECTLY on the starter that draws unfused power from both batteries (there is no fuse that can stop this)! Sure it's not a true runaway, but the engine was spinning without me being able to stop it, be careful if this happens to you it can cause a fire.
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After letting my 97 F350 7.3 PowerStroke Diesel sit for a week I go out to start it up after it being 15 degrees the night before. Block heater wasn't plugged in.
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In April 2013 I just put a new starter solenoid on it, and I will be taking it back to Advanced Auto Parts to get a new one as it is CLEARLY defective, it's done this several other times but never for more than 1-3 seconds and it usually only did it when I would shut the truck off. Crazy.
This same week I was blessed enough to have found 96 F350 7.3 from the original owner that is was in much better shape just in need of a efuel system.
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That battery was a whole lot better than he thought it was.
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Starter had a "Power Stroke"..... lol
hahaahahahahahahah😅😅
+SemparoHH Lol
+SemparoHH That is a good en.
th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto/w-d-xo.html -6F cold start.
ejanc601 Likely would have ran better! XD
SemparoHH savage to the fullest
Always heard of runaway diesel but never a runaway diesel starter.
Edwardo Snowdeno happened to me about 2 years ago. Pretty alarming! The only way to stop it was disconnecting the battery, which is scary enough on its own; with the starter chugging away, it's drawing a LOT of amps, so there's a nice arc when you pull the terminal!
@@driftingonthegreen1926 happened to in my 91 f150, thought I burnt the starter out
Ooh I don't want to see that arc the explosion would be it
Low battery and high starter load will heat up and weld the contacts together in the solenoid
So you claim, I've seen others in other makes than just "power strokes" that tell me they have had a starter solenoid get stuck on. Let me know when you finally get to drive something other than a video game LOL.
Ladies and gentleman battery cutoff switches. Install them on everything.
lol install one on you phone
ZombieSlayer103 Did i just get roasted that quick?
Outdoors Canada i guess so xD
ZombieSlayer103 Damn it was too early
Ya the whole time i was like dude disconnect battery!
amazed the battery went that long
+Billstmaxx Hi bill
+BILLSTMAXX :) luv u bill
+BILLSTMAXX :) Hey Bill, I've watched some of your videos funny catching you here, hope all is going well for you, thanks for the vids you share BTW.
If you want to see a good cold start -6F that didn't fail th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto/w-d-xo.html
This truck failed to start because she didn't want to go pick up the black 96 I had just bought LOL Want a harder laugh, I towed a 96 F350 long bed 4door home with a 92 explorer, what a ride that was and I used a tow bar BTW you can see them hooked up still in this video th-cam.com/video/V9-ANCXlNZM/w-d-xo.html
Anyways thanks for your time buddy, take care.
I agree with you
Yeah I gotta agree on that one
I love how he's so chill about the starter going to shit
LOL, thanks, only way to think to think straight.
Lol just your luck, you say weak batteries in the beginning and those batteries cranked the living hell out of that starter . I'm sorry this happened to you, but boy was it entertaining to watch
Jesse Ray 😂
True statement lol
ya i bought a 95 f 350 4x4 crew cab powerstroke, knowing it needed a lot of work... i rebuilt the front end ( ball joints, tie rod ends all bushings, etc. ) i rebuilt the engine ( new bearings and rings ONLY, had the cylinder head rebuilt. everything was fine except for 1 whole year and 5 different times i had injector cup problems !! i dont know if the cups i got from angelofishes on e bay were defective or what but after finally putting in motorcraft cups a year later i have CLEAN COOLANT :) i also put ALL new sensors ( every one ), new turbo, radiator, and the list goes on and on.. i love this truck and whan i put my camper on the back it is a traveling home on wheels :)
stuck starter sounds like a demonic laugh lmao
And this is why you don't grind on a starter like that.
EXACTLY!
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This is what happens if you run out of blinker fluid
+scott kough Hahahaha
He just forgot to charge his flux capacitor is all
no you idiot, running out of blue cheese salad dressing causes this!
Pomona Bill
Don't forget the wobbler shaft and squared bearings. I think a short throw dipstick would have really helped this klunker out.
I use SignalTech hydraulic assist blinker fluid. It has never let me down.
well now you DEFINITELY need a starter
Truck learned self-destruct
This was one of fords good diesel's IMO. Properly maintained with a few mods they go forever and ever. Decent power and serviceability. Shame this one wasn't taken care of by the previous owner.
Amen, I've got a 2000 F350 with almost half a million miles on the stock engine, and it still runs good and starts up easy in the cold. It probably will make another 2-300k before it's time to rebuild it.
After the 7.3 ford stopped having good diesels.
@@PatrickBaptist sounds like it’s laughing
In extreme cold without a block heater the 7.3's will blow the front seal almost every time .
15 degrees above and this truck still has this much trouble starting? needs some serious maintenance.
°F not °C...
jo schmo it doesn't help that the battery is dead
Even if it is 15 degrees F it still shouldn't start that hard, here up north it gets below 0
***** exactly why it needed maintenance. needed a new battery.
Jirka Cvrcek 15 degrees f is not that cold.
Its very common for oil cooler orings to leak when cold on the 7.3'S Once warmed up the orings will swell and stop leaking.
I notice this in the winter time
Low batteries as strange as it sounds will keep a starter engaged
+Louis Heishman Voltage drop. It could make the starter pull more amps thus make the solenoid stuck.
Low voltage can make the contacts in the solenoid arc and weld together, which is what appears to happen in the video. Low voltage and cranking on it too long getting it overheated.
Louis Heishman how can low voltage do that. Id think itd be high voltage. Am i retarded
@@ukkomies100 because low voltage creates high amps. Amperage is what creates heat , not so much voltage.
Louis Heishman not to sound stupid but why?
I had a 2002 F450 with the 7.3 PowerStroke. She was a wonderful truck and that engine ran 330,000 miles before the company I worked for traded it in. It got hard to start on cold weather, and I found a solenoid bad for the glowplugs. In all that milage the only significant repairs were one lube oil pump, injectors, and oil cooler gaskets. Never once let me down. Any small problems I made it home with the truck and was able to fix in my garage.
My dad worked at Yingling Chevrolet in Wichita, KS back in 1968 when it burned down. The fire chief and a few of his men died in that fire, in fact, there were several new fire regulations and training courses that came from that disaster that are still taught around the country to this day. My dad told me that somebody had been working on a truck during the day and it was a manual and in gear, somewhere along the line there was a small wrench that was teetering on the edge of the motor and somehow during the night, it fell off and landed in between the starter and the block and it caused the starter to engage. The truck rolled across the shop floor and crashed into the wall and then proceeded to keep cranking while the tires were spinning until it finally caught fire. Crazy freak accident and ended up taking some lives. I want to say it was on Christmas Eve as well. I'll have to look it up again and refresh my memory. Thanks for posting.
my moms chrysler didn't come with an auto start but for some reason it would randomly start without the key in the ignition scary stuff.
That can be a wire problem so cover them
How bout unplug the battery so it quits? That'd be my first thought..
+OSSEOslayerJR You obviously don't know much then, you can't "unplug" the battery, there are bolts that secure the cables to the battery posts, there is no plug LOL.
+OSSEOslayerJR u could also have a huge arc since you are collapsing the starter's magnetic field if you pulled the cable off. might melt your hand a little bit
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I know I've heard plp try and tell me to yank the cables off too, how stupid, that would just bust the batteries and cause real problems LOL, not to mention I already knew the top of one battery was cracked around the post a little.
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Dude you know it's easier to diagnose and tell people what to do from behind the comforts of a keyboard, they always know so much more... . LOL
+Patrick TheBaptist The lead acid battery won't care if you unplug it. Unless by 'yank' you mean pulling so hard that you mess up the poles of the battery or something like that. Unbolting it won't hurt it at all if the truck is cranking
Love the stuck solenoid problem. I work at a jeep CJ restoration shop and have to occasionally do the "solenoid shuffle" when the fender solenoid sticks from cranking with a low battery. Running to open the hood and hit the thing with any hard object readily available or take the battery cable loose. We took in a Scrambler that burned up from it. Guy didn't know what to do and watched it go up in flames. Good times.
Man, only thing worse than a stuck starter is a run-away. You stayed calm though, I would have went crazy.
+Lord Smuggington Ah it's tough, but I've learned over the years to try and think, all I could really do was stand around and not do much, I wish my tools had not have been so hard to have gotten to or I would have just grabbed a 13mm and got the batteries disconnected but I thought I might be able to stop it, it would do this for a few seconds sometimes when I would turn the truck off after driving it, thing was a little crazy LOL, ah but the start was a champ when I first got this truck, GPs didn't work so I cranked on it over 5 mins straight the starter was glowing red and smoking like crazy HAHAHAHA, thing must have been bullet proof, I sold it to a guy 30 day warranty, never heard back about it LOL. I parted out this truck after this because I had bought a 96 that was in way better running shape by far and could fire up even down to -6F th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching!
soaringtractor Whats your problem, huh?
a self destruct car i hate when 1 thing breaks 99 more things break along with it
It just needed starter and batteries replaced and it would have gotten over it.
i know but i often discover more problems along the way
kierankay100
I found that way is preferable to paying car payments....
@@PatrickBaptist I wouldn't mind having brand new but I like to buy used stuff but stuff that was taken care of, I once saw a Silverado with a duramax for sale for $6500 and the thing looked brand new inside and out WITH 4x4, i just wish i had the money at the time
@@Dunki113 careful, I see ALOT of cars like that on Ebay but need work in the engine and will try to hide it (atleast from my experience) just make sure everything checks under the hood also
Where's uhhhhhh... Where's the runaway diesel part? 😂
That's the noise I hear in my nightmares..
LOL
i see u on1puglife.cooooom's channel eh haha
I quit watching him a good while back, him and Dave have some real problems.
why did he not disconnect the battery when that was happening
Read the description.
Disconnecting the batteries in a diesel engine won't prevent a runaway. It might in a gas engine which wouldn't run away, but not in a diesel. Not even disconnecting the fuel lines could prevent a runaway.
@@henry55430 it was a runaway starter not a runaway engine
There are 2 batteries, not going to happen.
-40's (c) out last winter here, my winter cars starter stuck on while the car was already running, i thought it was just the cold engine making the noise.. came out 10 minutes later, thought i smelt coolant burning and realized it was the starter was still going haha. ran to the shop grabbed an 8 mil wrench and disconnected the battery.
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had that happen once to my 02, starter literally went up in smoke that time though.
I run a Jegs Gear Reduction starter now (Starts WAY better than a stock Starter)
+Dan Carlin I read you can put a 6.0 starter in them, I bought one for my 96 F350 with a lifetime warranty only $160 th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto/w-d-xo.html -6F cold start
there's a thing they made its called a battery charger for these kinda problems
+Anthony Catalioto Problem is, you typically have to disconnect 2 batteries, not just 1......I doubt it's even possible to do that before the batteries exhaust themselves....especially if working alone..
+Clete88 if you charge one battery it carries over to the other battery.
+Clete88 actually one main battery that runs the starter in this situation the other is ran off the main not both running to the starter
+Douglas Price Actually you don't know what you are talking about, both batteries are bonded together, thus the starter draws from both of them. I've parted plenty of these trucks to know, so learn what you are talking about so you don't provide crap information unless that is what you like doing.
+Patrick TheBaptist so when our 6.5 did it mechanic unplugged the main battery it shut it down....guess ford must be different then
It warmed your truck up
Ya know it did
I thought it would be a fuse fault, but my mother has a 92' F150 custom and it never fails.
There is no fuse between the starter and the batteries. Read the description, I explained it there.
I've never seen another vehicle do this before and I've had ALOT, but yet some people in the comments have had it happen before.
Low battery voltage during starting is the number one killer of the FICM, too.
7.3s don't have ficms
You're right. It was called an IDM back then. Still a killer.
+Ian Logan Could you explain those terms? I`m not native nor familiar with new cars
Ian Logan what are you talking about.
Always a great idea to show how cool your truck is by cold starting it. Worked out great.
+David Lowry Ready Fready, just read the description and here is a -6 cold start that didn't fail th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto/w-d-xo.html
best part of the video was 4:41
Cause it ends?! :D
exactly
Very true!
oh ya, don't disconnect your battery or anything
Stoutski diesels have two
Read the description
I know I've said that a bunch, anymore when people ask why I didn't just yank the batteries, I just reply that I ignored that solution to see how many people would go on about it LOL.
hard to do that when theres a bolt holding on the clamp buddy. think youre smart youre not
I had a starter do this on an '81 pontiac bonneville. It was a very cold natured car and didn't like to start when cold. I often had to pump the heck out of it to start it on cold mornings. We replaced the starter later after it did this a few more times randomly.
Low voltage across the start solenoid contacts will generate an arc that starts melting the contact face.over time they get worse just like ign points.the end result is stuck or melted together copper contacts,especially on diesel motors.500 to 600 cca? On a cold start.plus there is the glow plugs pulling batt voltage down.alternator faults can be a big problem.sulfated batts.parasitic current draw with key off.
Use a hair dryer to shoot hot air into the air intake. It takes a minute, but will help immensely with getting the engine to fire.
Mmmm, yesss, immensely
It could not get the starter motor to stop
Beautiful truck. Gotta love square body fords
The club
That poor starter. Lol
Right, Damn starter gone
+SoloGamingG1 Starter solenoid not the starter itself, the starter sold on ebay with a
30 day warranty, I never heard back from the buyer, it had a brand new
solenoid on it when it left.
Starter was still working like a champ to drag the truck around the back yard as needed.
A new solenoid? Starting itself? Man...
this thing reminds me of the 8V-92 2 stroke detroit in my RV hauler truck ,,,no such thing as a quick start in cold weather ,,if it isn't plugged in likely as not it won't start at -6F without a LOT of cranking ,,it's a case of crank it till it starts cause it will eventually start
you won't burn up the starter ,,likely you'll melt a cable ,, and in my truck you'll never run the batteries down cause i have an APU/generator capable of supplying 600+amps continuous to the batteries ,,and also supplies power to the engine heater , as well as warms the coolant directly
He must have welded the contacts together from too much cranking!
lol this video makes me want to put disconnects on my trucks battery :(
Well, video wouldn't work. So, I'm assuming it blows the engine. Just get one with a 4.9L straight six and all your problems disappear . Unless you need to get on the freeway.
Yeah probably an issue with the broadband on my side. Please I've the right truck, but just missing the right engine. (7.3)lol Right there with you. I'd rather get new parts than buy a new model.
Yeah, until you've had a mechanical injection pump hang wide open and you've had to ram yer fist with a reusable shopping bag into the turbo intake you dont actualy know how much poop can fit into yer drawers.Here in the way up north it helps to drop the oil out to cold start a deisel,just run it long enough to be warm then refill.watch for sticktion.
Just one thing, if you dump the oil out of a 7.3 PSD, it won't EVER start.
It uses a HEUI injection, high pressure oil is what drives the fuel injectors, no oil, no fuel injection.
Don't know how much poop can fit in yer drawers, lmao!! That's a good one, loved it
MegaFlaxman
Yeah I was about to have a fit thinking there might be a fire if it wouldn't stop.
Good times though, I got me another truck in way better shape than this one and also a starter with a lifetime warranty so happy cranking from here on hahaha
Nah dude. Big engines will fuck you up.
CO2 fire extinguisher - dump it into the intake.
This will work if it's running on oil, or if you've got a dodgy intake.
Hahahahaha... i don't know which one is funny but i started to laugh when your starter stuck... i'm sorry...
Patrick theFreeWillBaptist how would you stop it from doing this?
Cumminstothewheels battery terminal off will work
Cumminstothewheels hitting the starter with a hammer works if you can get the solenoid to unstick, or removing the battery cable, whatever is fastest.
Cervan
Yeah,Uh,On Ford the solenoid isnt down there,not on mine anyway
you never try and start an engine on flat batteries, the larger current drawn can make the contacts stick which is more than likely what happened here. You need an isolator switch.
I got a 96 f250 7.3 and it runs like a hoss. Wouldn't trade it for a 2017 vehicle anyday
I miss my 96 th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto/w-d-xo.html
No I wouldn't buy a new truck, they are no where near worth the money.
That's not even a real cold start, here in Winnipeg Canada in the winter, we get down to -30°C or -22°F. The wind chill could be below -40.
Except I don't live in canada thank God, it only gets to -6f here, but I wound up with another F350 that could start without a block heater that cold th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto/w-d-xo.html
But, we get decently warm summers, The average high in July is about 77°F or 25°C, and the average low is about 13°C or 55°F. Sometimes we can get up to 90. But in January, average high -11°C or 12°F, average low -21°C or -5°F. It only gets to -30 on a really bad days.
Nicholas Tesar
We for sure had a pretty warm summer here getting in the upper 90s and high humidity, I have heart problems so I don't like neither the hot nor cold, I'd rather burn up than freeze tho, I use to love the cold years back but anymore I can't tolerate it well at all. Enjoy whats left of yer weekend.
Cold is cold, regardless of slightly cold or horribly cold.
You dont say ay!
Dont sound like weak batteries to me lol
Tha'ts what I think too. I don't believe the 7 or 8 volts it was showing on his gauge either. glow plugs more like it..
Low voltage builds heat and eventually will weld the solenoid contacts and if left to run its course will damage the armature of the starter. Batteries, GPR, GP and lets not forget the hot plate in the fuel bowl.
Interesting. Although Cat, Cummins nor Detroit use them on the big rigs either.
Your truck is mint, my truck's 5.4L blew up so I shoe horned in my 87 7.3L with 700 000 KMs on the block. Engine is so worn out it will not start with out ether. Runs ok warm though.
Dang man, I'm not sure what I would do or if I could react as fast as you did.. especially when it's cold out like that
It stopped on it's own thankfully, if I'd had my tools then I would have gotten it stopped a little faster.
I drive a 2000 F350 with almost half a million miles and man the battery cables look ugly to say the best, the batteries took a dump on it and i needed just one more start out of it and I was so worried this would happen on it LOL. Thanks buddy, take care.
Been there.. On a gas.. Unhooked battery as quickly as possible
Was wondering why he didn't do that. Would that shock you or is it relatively safe to do that?
+Reid Smith That's why you should read the description, your question has already been answered there friend.
Who wants an engine when you have a good battery and an endless starter ? Shot the MPG right now, starter driven instant hybrid conversion. Hold the key and you are done.
That's the way to drive a manual trans car off a level crossing
Hind sight is 20/20, some of these comments, wow. I've seen his happen and sewn what happens when a heavily drained battery has a spark nearby and it ignites the hydrogen gas being emitted from the battery. He would have had 2 batteries to disconnect and risked possibly being burned by a hot terminal. A group size 65 battery has an average of 1000 cranking amps at 32 degrees and 800 cold cranking amps at 0 degrees. When the magnetic field colapses, there would be a brief recoil of power that could pop the ECM and or body control module.
You need to make sure your delayed oil valve and triple aquastat is topped off with either Tannerite or thermite depending on the year
your truck had a powerstroke
WillJ videos *A heartattack*
Lol "PowerStroke"
ThatGearHead lol Honda oddessy
Learn how to spell Odyssey first...
ThatGearHead i really dont care about your fairy vehicle
Fairy vehicle...? I don't care about your opinion on what I have...
ThatGearHead better then any duramax
IMO the 7.3 is the last good Diesel Ford made.
Patrick theFreeWillBaptist I drove a truck just like yours for a lumber company back in 2006. It was white with a 5 speed. 4 gears + granny. By the time I got it the turbo had burnt out but it would still pull a trailer like nobodys businesses. Yeah, I know.. Burnt out turbo and I still drove it... That company didn't exactly believe in fixing vehicles.
Mike Barton actually built by International but yes the best diesel Ford ever used besides the 6.9 non turbo.
I purchased a 6.0 diesel and I believe it was a 6.7 and both of them are garbage diesel engines.
I told my dealer that our company will never buy another diesel again until they go back to the 7. 3
I won't have anything but the 7.3PSD, I drive one every day that has 455k on the stock engine.
6.9 and 7.3 IDI/PS are legendary. 6.0 is actually a great engine if you bulletproof it with the right modifications. 6.4 is absolutely worthless. 150k mile throw-away engine. The newer 6.7s are too new to give a firm conclusion, but my friend has a 2013 6.7 with 460k miles and he’s done nothing to it but routine maintenance and loves it
Mike Barton cause it wasn’t built by ford
Nice job... You ran the battery's so low that the starter couldn't disengage. This is why semi trucks have low voltage protection.
FYI.. Always run good batteries in your truck.. If your batteries are low, the AMPS the system requires goes way up! It puts a much heavier load on the starter using batteries that are old, or discharged and will wear it out faster. :)
+lazerusmfh th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto/w-d-xo.html Check out this -6F cold start.
I think not all 8 glow plugs are working either.
+Gerald S When I tore it down there was 2 I think that were disconnected LOL. Good catch.
+Gerald S How can you tell?
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I bet it's from having a good deal of experience, noone else caught on, I had put new GPs in it months before this so I ASSUMED they were all hooked up, seems I made a little mistake LOL.
Patrick TheBaptist Must be a hell lot of experience. And we've all had our fair share of mistakes, especially me!
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LOL, oh yeah I sure have made PLENTY of mistakes oh man I tell you whaty.
Did you know that stupid hurts? HAHAHA
Low voltage and running starter too long not a good combo.
+MrTmpinsanity th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto/w-d-xo.html -6F cold start
I would love to have that truck
th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto/w-d-xo.html This one was much better.
gotta love that knocking on the 7.3s. just fricken golden!
Some ignition switch systems aren't one piece wired to the ignition like the good old days. A previously failed Lincoln (related to Ford) switch had a plunger driven by the tumbler assembly that ran some of the contacts for starting. If the casing the plunger rides in cracked from cold or cold causes a plunger to stick the same symptoms might show up. Symptom for the messed up plunger assembly is the turning of the key is a little off and seems a little loose. Like you know parts stores are happy to throw parts at us. Anyway, good luck trouble shooting in the future.
if you had an old chevy it woulda fired up real fast
so would a new chevy, up in flames real fast.
yeah probably
TheMudyOne lmao true
Magic Philip yeah those 6.5 where great.... not
LOL, sure you get what about 50k miles till the next rebuild/overhaul right? Ok maybe 75k if you do it right. Still running BTW, I've seen trucks run in a junk yard but couldn't do anything on the road, like a RV I bought with a 454 in it, it would fire right up, but it would only run in the yard it wouldn't muster up enough power to limp out of the yard LOL, fine chevy 454 with only 40k miles on it and a dead cylinder and less horse power than a snapper mower LOL.
I owned a Chevy 6.5 at 157k miles the heads were done and it wouldn't restart after it was hot, what junk, and those were better than the 6.2s LOL, what non existent power, my land rover with a 4.0 was putting out more torque. Anyways I'm done I couldn't resist.
don't see dodges doing that do we:)
+riley howser Actually we don't see dodge even making a diesel in their 2500/3500 trucks.....
But any diesel not cared for will wind up in crap shape, no matter the make.
th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto/w-d-xo.html Lookie here, I haven't seen many diesels at all do this without a block heater, see son, it's all about how it's cared for this 96 PSD fired up at -6F no block heater and had been taken care of and even had pretty new batteries in it.
+soaringtractor Ah grow up troll and enjoy the ban list.
Dude really? Just for proof. there was a dodge that I owned that the starter went out and got stuck. So don't blame the truck. it's the damn idiot that tried to turn the motor over for a good 3 minutes which isn't good and with a low battery it wasn't gonna start.
SoloGamingG1
Starter solenoid not the starter itself, the starter sold on ebay with a 30 day warranty, I never heard back from the buyer, it had a brand new solenoid on it when it left.
ya we just see dodges on the side of the road
Shoulda bought a chevy
Amen brother
It would just sit their forever in the junkyard
I prefer Dodges Cummins engines but okay, as long as it is diesel powered I dont mind
'there'
Like a Duramax is any better than another POS! Why do you think most diesel mechanics call them and dirty max. Junk! If this door knob had a better injector pump and the glow plugs were actually working it would've started! Cummins uses the grid heater which heats the air not the cylinder individually it's a fail from the beginning!
The key twister is where the defect is. Flicking that ignition rapidly creates big arcs...you welded the contacts closed. And please, if the truck doesn't start up in a few seconds, wait a minute or two before trying again. Keep in mind that if the voltage drops too low that the injectors WILL NOT FIRE! Best to cycle the key on, wait for the glow plug light to go out, wait...wait...wait, then fire it up.
And before you catch an attitude, I currently own my 4th, 5th and 6th 7.3 powerstroke trucks...so trust me, I've learned a few things along the way.
I've rebuilt more 7.3s than you have owned and I currently own 4 of them, 3 are T444Es in buses.
Trust me I've learned plenty since making this that is several years old. Catch an attitude he says LOL. The issue was never the ignition, it was the solenoid on the starter, problem stopped once I replaced it......
Have a great day.
Had this exact problem on my 84 Chevy 6.2, burned the starter up. Got a new one, $250 dollars, and noticed it was sticking, too. Maybe bad ignition switch, I wired it on its separate circuit no issues.
Hahaha, the starter in my dads 6.2 is the opposite, it disengauges before the engine starts
it takes 12vt to start
Blake Stne 10.5
Buy a chevy. Problem solved.
Ohh you mean like the chvy van I had with the 6.5 diesel that was the biggest POS I ever thought of driving¿
I've never seen a chevy not fail to break down, so do get real, the diesel engines they made in the 90s were a joke reliability and power both.
ill take a look in my local junk yard tomorrow thanks for the advice
That's funny Chevy suck
Funny? My '14 2500 HD duramax does quite nicely.
Slim Stickly
I'd hope it would for a 2014, give it about 4-5 years, then we shall see....
Pointless to compare a new truck with one with over 300k and not taken care of.
So I would hope it could do better than a 18 year old truck for the price.
sell it and buy a gasoline truck.
***** Not true in Europe: diesel cars are very popular over here. On my commute to work in the morning it's quite often the case that every car I see on the motorway is a diesel.
taledarkside That sure isn't the case around here. As of 7/14 gas is ~ $3.90 cash, and diesel is $4.15. Used to be the other way around years ago as that was a selling point for buying diesel vehicles. No more!
joe woodchuck
Gas here is $3.02 and diesel is $3.29
Waste oil way way cheaper......
No gasser can get the fuel economy of my turbo charged diesel when it comes to climbing to 4000ft altitude... Not to mention and have the power too...
***** "Any altitude diesel is thermodynamically more efficient."
At higher altitude the air is not as dense, any NON-turbo charged engine (gas or diesel) will not.
The turbo compresses the air and compensates for the thin air, if you have ever driven a NON-turbo diesel you would see what I'm talking about.
Sell it and buy a Japanese truck
I had this happen in my old Ford ranger. It was the starter relay. Not the solenoid. It ran so long before I could disconnect the battery it fried the starter. Lucky for me the starter was under warranty and the relay was not too hard to diagnose. I would check it out before getting too wild with a new starter and possibly frying it as well.
Then you didn't have this happen to your good ol Ranger, the solenoid on the starter is what was sticking, I replaced just the solenoid and that never happened again.
I went to turn my '94 Chevy k1500 over after I had just driven it. I heard a "click", but the starter didn't start. I checked the voltage at battery, had 12.4 volts. I checked the starter and it was covered in oil and grease (probably 10 years worth of it), so I figured the problem was the starter since the battery voltage was good.
I put a new starter in, fired the truck up and it still just clicked. Turned out the voltage on the battery was fine, but the amps were extremely low. At least now my entire electrical system is brand new (Alternator, starter, and battery).
+the32712
yeah oil will destroy the brushes in starters, turns them to goo.
I'd make sure to check my battery and ground straps while I was at it if I were you.
Thanks for watching.
This starter's been a champ, had it going for minutes before!
Truck: Ok, let's test that theory!
Put a new solenoid on it and sold it on ebay with a 30 day warranty, got good feedback and never heard anything else......
I had a "power stroke",at 02:00 hrs but then saw a white light...and angelic voices.
I walked the other way and woke up fine in bed.
I'm 90 years old .
THis really was a blessing to me, this video has made me more than I spent on the truck all together.
Wish all my screw ups would pay for theirself like that LOL.
@@PatrickBaptist this reply is as easier to understand and is precise as your original video description.
It seems your happy with your money, so well done,your a genius.
LOL soon as the starter stuck started laughing my ass off!
the 7.3 L V8 (Navistar T444E) is made by Navistar International. ford put that engine in their super duty trucks from 1999-2003. with a cylinder bore of 4.11 in and a piston stroke of 4.18 in, gave the engine roughly between 210-275 Hp and 425-525 lb-ft of Torque to the wheels. in simple terms, a dependable engine that had little to no issues with proper care and maintenance. although its common to see them leak oil, im not too concerned. my families 7.3L V8 diesel was built in 2000, and still going strong today with well over 300,000 miles.
7.3 was in production way longer then that bud
Till 2004, but thats not way longer, just a year, and only on commercial vehicles not little light duty passenger vehs. Look it up Robby.
Diesel turns to gel at low temps. Thats why heating elements are used in semis. Add 90% rubbing alcohol to the fuel to stop the gel.
This wasn't the issue at all, I also run diesel kleen in mine, artic formula, my fuel ain't gellin here.
I also noticed that you have a 7.3 starter. Another thing that can help with cold starts is to replace it with a 6.0 starter (WITH A LIFETIME WARRANTY from O'Reilly).
One thing that might be helpful for you and the viewers, especially those who have a proper voltage gauge like you, is that the CPU will not activate the IDM with less than 8V. Anything less and it simply won't start.
I just did my oil cooler, synthetic oil made it leak twice as much on mine. The seals on the other hand are very simple, it just helps to have a press, friend, and lift if possible. Most shops can do it in a hour so it may be worth it
I understand that your batteries and starter were on their way out, but the starter stuck on because you were cranking it for too long, causing the solenoid (Which is usually external to the starter motor) to jam/weld in the on position, and thus why it kept attempting to start. If a vehicle doesn't start with in 10 cranks max, you really should stop, double check connections, wait then try again. There's usually a reason behind a car taking a long time to start.
Those are some good photos at the end of the video by the way, Very clear and display that oil leak rather well.
+Squall762 Thanks, oh the problem was low volts, the solenoid had been acting up for a while it would even start cranking when I would shut the truck off after driving, new solenoid, no more problem.
I bought this truck with dusted piston rings so it hated cold starts.
I know all about motors in general and I just abuse them for the fun of it and it's funny to me and it was mine to do that to. WHen I first bought the truck GPs didn't work so I would just crank on it 3-5mins straight till one day the starter was glowing red and smoking like crazy and I got some glow plugs, that starter was a champ, I also rode it up and down the back yard as needed because i parted out this truck in favor of a 96 I had just bought and was going to tow back to the house when this 97 failed on me.
I drug this other truck home with a Explorer LOL check it out -6F cold start and this was no fail --th-cam.com/video/dS1VvZ7gnto-/w-d-xo.html- This truck had new batteries and starter 6 months prior so the starter had a lifetime warranty so do keep that in mind ;-)
This truck was well taken care of but the idiots at the local ford stealership couldn't get her started, after loads of money thrown at it, shuck I took it home to find clogged fuel strainer in front tank and busted pickup tube in the rear tank which killed the fuel pump too, didn't take me long at all to have a real super nice well taken care of truck from the original owner. I hated to had to have sold it in June but life happens.
For everyone saying the battery was good the glow plugs won’t overheat and it won’t damage the motor
Lmao.. I've never seen or heard of that happening.. Think I wound of pulled the negative cable before I would of hit the starter... But you handled it better than I would of.. Lol
Every couple of years I come back to this video for the laughs.
That's awesum-oh haha.
When that happens on a Ford, hit the fender mounted solenoid not the starter. This is a very common issue and usually happens when the batts are low. This happens on gas and Diesel engines.
Bud stick with the legos, they are quite fun and all but yeah auto mechanics is another matter. Might want to educate yourself a bit better. I've had lots of Fords, the RELAY on the fender isn't a solenoid, the starter solenoid is mounted on the starter, I've got starter replacement videos on another F350 and a Taurus, both have solenoids on the starter, read the description. I chopped up the truck, I know exactly what was wrong with it. First time I've seen this, I agree bad batt are a stupid idea, burns out starters, done that many a times, to throw a new batt in and the starter take a dump within a week.
Been a mechanic for 20 years, and while you are correct about the starter mounted solenoid, there in a lot of F series trucks that also use the fender mounted one as well together with the starter mounted one. And also I know that the glow plug relay looks almost identical on the outside, it’s quite different inside. Without seeing your engine bay and seeing your trucks configuration I was giving a polite guess as to what causes that issue. I have experienced that exact issue many times on Fords of all types with fender mounted solenoids. I have never ran into one doing that with the starter only mounted one.
" there in a lot of F series trucks that also use the fender mounted one" Didn't say there wasn't a RELAY mounted on the fender, I was stating the SOLENOID is on the starter.
"Without seeing your engine bay and seeing your trucks configuration I was giving a polite guess as to what causes that issue" Didn't really seem like that, not to be rude, but I haven't been a mechanic for any 20 years but I don't assume stuff I don't know and that's why there is so much bad info on the internet about stuff, just guess without the research, and not just cars.
"I have never ran into one doing that with the starter only mounted one." 1st one for me as well and I hope never to see it again, atleast this one made me more off this retarded video than I ever paid for the truck. I don't mean to sound rude, I'm just a blunt feller. I do like legos BTW, technic mainly, a man can even build a standard H pattern manual 5 speed with reverse with em, doesn't do much for any practical use, but it will shift correctly.
Take care
3:03 finally started with a normal idle for a PowerStroke.
Guess it wanted to do some work! Oh I understand you cycling to turn your meter on, but the glowplugs will run for 90 seconds (I think) so cycling for the plugs wouldn't do much help, what I do is I let it do the full cycle and right as the battery gauge goes back up (not as much of a load since the relay shut off) I crank and I have more power to the starter because the plugs will stay on for I beleive 30 seconds after it started to help it run smooth. Not 100% sure about this though.
WHat I did to my later trucks was put in a switch to control the GPR, but any of the trucks I had after this one were in much better shape.
This was my first 7.3PSD also. I've since rebuilt them and are far better the wiser than back then.
The GPs stay on from 30-90 sec depending on the outside temp, the PCM determines the time they are on (this is why people report different amounts of times they believe the GPs are on). One can wire a light into the dash and connect it to the GPR to see when the plugs actually are on. The PCM will even command them on for short durations while the engine is running. Like you said when the volt meter goes up some you have good reason to believe the GPs are off as well.
I found when I took this engine apart the GPs for 7 and 8 were unhooked so I didn't get them connected all the way so it was only using 6 of the plugs anyways. but had there been 8 I prob would have had to bought batteries sooner. When it started I knew it wasn't firing on a cylinder or 2 until I tapped the go pedal a little. Now I know why. Thanks though.
Those fender mounter starter relays are notorious for sticking. More so in the open position but sometimes in the closed position too. Problem becomes frequent if you get an autozone/oreillys replacement.
It was the starter mounted solenoid.
i dont knw much about diesel, but the oil drip would be from the tubo not having compression, second i do know from experience that, like a gas motor, do NOT hit the fuel pedal when your motor is cold, if it wont start you leave it be...ive ran through two diesel motors because of that
Patrick theFreeWillBaptist If you are going to criticize Elijah Ford for misspelling turbo, you should spell everything in your post correctly, especially the words in AllCaps.
Hey--I just noticed that you editted your response and failed to fix your glaring spelling error. So, you've earned the Dumbass of the Day award . Congrats!
By hitting the throttle and any motor when it's too cold to start will cause excessive. Firing pressure when the motor actually ignites, if your motor is cold in either gas or diesel, hitting the throttle before the engine is at a good firing temperature will cause a failed gasket or some cooling issues.and by the way, diesel vehicles don't have spark plugs, depending on glow plugs dude...Idk how you would need to replace spark plugs in a diesel. Don't throw a fit because I was offering out friendly advise to someone weep owns a diesel like mine...
The compression ratio is either 18:1 or 14:1 on your 7.3 until it reaches an optimum of of 15 degrees Celsius can the compression reach greater than 14:1... buy hiring the throttle you could jump that ratio to 25:1 easily...tell me more on how I don't know what I'm talking about
Elijah Ford How would his engine have a compression ratio of either 14:1 or 18:1, they're all 17.5:1.
Secondly, how does one change the compression ratio with the throttle? And actually in the (6.0L) powerstroke owners manual it'll tell you to depress the throttle halfway if it doesn't start.
Elijah Ford
You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?
Are you going to tell him he should've had a friend shooting a fog of WD40 into the intake?
3:40 "Lets try that again"!!!!!!!!! haha
The oil cooler seals seem to go out after about 15+ years of service.
They should be changed as regular maintenance.
The problem with this motor is that it won't hardly crank unless it
is plugged in. It usually takes about an hour to get it to where it will
start without a hassle in 40 degree weather. It needs between 1 1/2 hours
to 2 hours in the 10's to 30's. I hated the 7.3 before I found this out.
Had that happen on the old 1985 6.9L -- same issue, low battery voltage caused the starter contacts to weld and stick her on....the old battery leads gave out before anything else thankfully. Melted and fell off.