NB Miata Goes Full Standalone ECU! ME442 / ME221 Install [Project 2SJ Ep7]
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What's up guys and happy 2021!! I'm pumped to finally get started on modifying the NB, and there's no better place to start than with a standalone. This is already a really fun car and I can't wait to see where the build goes. If you guys have any questions regarding the installation of the ME ECU drop them down below, see you guys in the next one! (It will be less than a month this time I promise loll)
Additional notes for install (let me know in the comments if you think of anything):
1) For all UK models, the ECU is under the passenger floorboard, so access is much easier.
2) For improved text scaling (mine is funky in the video)
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The following steps should improve the scaling of the MEITE software in windows 10 and the presentation of tables and data.
1. Right click the MEITE icon and click properties.
2. Click compatibility tab
3. Click change high DPI settings
4. Tick the box that says "Override high DPI scaling behaviour"
5. In the drop down menu, select "system",
6. Press OK. Reopen the MEITE software.
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3) Regarding datalogging - The 442 has on-board logging. This means the ECU is logging to the on-board SD card any time the key is in the "run" position and you can extract those logs from the ECU, which are time stamped. This is an EXTREMELY helpful feature, for those times where the engine does something unexpected but you were not manually recording a datalog.
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I feel I speak for all us NB owners when I say, ABOUT TIME WOOOO
Getting to the outro is so bittersweet. On one hand: "man its already over" On the other "shit's my jam"
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This series is going to be GOLD
I did have a chuckle at your cold start being 19c. That's a nice summers day!
Lol literally
Dad?! You’re finally back! Did you get the milk?
I've had a ME221 running in my MSM for 3.5 years but I still watched.
Actually in both of my european NBs, one 1.6l and one 1.8l, their ECUs were on the passenger's footwell ;)
Don’t even own my miata anymore, still watch your channel
I'm running a 221 in my turbo for more than 2 years now. Looking forward to learn new things
Hey Greg, how about throwing a Speeduino ECU into your next Miata?
I dont think Miata Dad would want such a reliable ECU
Just got done with class, that's some pretty impeccable timing if i do say so myself
Finally, someone is going to cover the ME221 / 442, got one in my NA recently so looking forward to this
Thanks for the video. Ive had my me221 for a month now and was a little hesitant to install because I wasn't sure how well the base map would run. I think I will be installing in my 99 miata tomorrow.
Hey Greg what's the pros and cons of running the ME ECU versus a megasquirt
That thing sounds like a dirt bike at the beginning during your drift. Brap brap braaap
I need to finish my speeduino stand alone...
i love mine, hurry up and get that thing finished
@@theincredibletruestory1741 im building the board from Westfield...so gimme a minute
ill be getting this for my NB...will be paying attention!! TY for the vid
We've missed you dude, welcome back Greg!
Damn, the anticipation for a new video was killing me! Thank god you’re back
The ecu location also differs for all european cars (think the japanese version also ) , they all have them on the passenger floor.
Awesome vid, watching with interest as I have a ME221 in a 1.6 supercharged NA and I want to learn more about tuning.. ✌🏻 Peace out man 👍🏻
More me442 stuff
I’m really wanting the ME ecu for my NC!
Ahh, yes. Could not wish for a better topic. And it's my birthday too :)
I’ve been hoping this build series would go DIY ITB’s. Motorcycle throttle bodies ! FTW!
That's not been ruled out yet 👍
2:12 LMAO Greg the Japanese Tsuchiya videos “WOW” sound effect... Brilliant touch mate !!!
miata dad is back
some of the best content. Even the intro rocks. Well done.
I've been using the ME442 in my turbo MX5 for about half a year now, idle tuning etc is actually pretty easy and it starts up almost as fast as stock. I'm always happy to send my tunes if you need some inspiration :)
@Zio Peraza what kind of help do you need?
@Zio Peraza If you are in Closed loop PWM idle, make sure the min and max duty of the valve are "effective" also the Exit idle duty should be close to the idle duty so it falls back properly.
I have P=0.1, I=75 and D=0.
Conditions are Min RPM=500, Max RPM=1500
Regarding the lean idle, check how much the car has to trim lambda when falling back in idle and change your VE table accordingly.
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Remove the underscores
@Zio Peraza coincidentally mine is turbo aswell so it would be a good approximation
@Zio Peraza So basically Min and Max are the values that actually change the idle. if for example the rpm stays the same between 55 and 65, your effective PWM is 55 since more doesn't do anything. My min/ max is 18/35 but those values are different for everyone. What is your exit idle duty, best choice is to choose a value close to the actual idle PWM (so once it's idling at about 950 rpm, look at the idle pwm duty and round it off)
Would you prefer megasquirt over this
Way better then donut media. Just sayin.
Agreed, but I would still love to see them do a video together.
I like both of them, for different reasons, donut cuz they do the stuff I wouldn't do/maybe do cuz they interest me and car passion, because his on a budget and learning making mistakes as I am
DAaaaaaD! It’s good to see you again! 😀
Not gonna lie that was a really good merch plug
Youre more of a miata professor/dr. Making it like Frankenstein in a montrous way
Thanks for showing removal
I absolutely love this series. Even more so now that I own an nb1 myself
Saw your question at SN9 stream and was like whaaaat... TRACKDASYBOO :D
Everyday Astronaut is the GOAT
I try this yesterday and I failed because I didn't knew that we could locked 10°. Now with your help I know how to check my advance timing to found where my horse power are gone on my ITB mx5 😁
Top Tip - avoid resistor-less 'racing' plugs, the EMF plays havoc with the USB comms. Ask the man whose just replaced most of his ignition system today to find out ;-)
Great video creg
Will be following this with great interest Greg! My very next mod
Hi Greg I’m hoping you will do more on the ME221 tuning like you did with the Megasquirt pls. My MX5 has been tuned and dynoed but as a noob to this ecu it would be good to learn how to tweak things myself here’s hoping
I really need a Miata in my life.
I like how the silhouette of the old ECU kind of looks like a dinosaur in the thumbnail. Not sure if it was intentional but if it was it's a good little Easter egg if it was.
We made individual cylinder knock control for the Miata in 1992.
3:56 miata dad stressin me out
I know it's an older video but.... no, you do not need a wideband to tune the car if you take it to a tunner. They will hook up the wideband from their dyno usually... a nice to have but certainly not a requirement if you go with the 221
@@IrishGaucho You absolutely need a wideband in any relatively modified car. A one-and-done 2-hour tune by some guy with a dyno will not cover all the tuning needs a car has, you want to be able to monitor the tune over time and also use AFR's for troubleshooting issues. Without a wideband you also won't be able to use ANY closed-loop fueling features on the ECU.
THANK YOU!!
Do you have a promo code coming for those of us looking to buy an ME442 here soon?
I saw your tip on EveryDay stronaut!!! didnt realize you were into space flight
Big time, when I'm not studying cars I'm studying space 😅 Every Astronaut is the GOAT!!
A clear guide on how to set up cold start properly in miete would be much appreciated!
Very much this, I added a start injector priming pulse and upped the start injector cranking trim on the original basemap and it's much better, still needs some fine tuning. Be good to see someone who knows what they are doing though
@@yakhunt9424 I had no idea what I was doing for that part, shame motorsport electronics doesn't have a video about it at all
@@ps3modder92 Agreed, wish there was more online specific to the ME ECUs, the basic principles apply though, cold fuel in a cold engine doesn't vapourise that well so you need to add more to get it to catch
I’ve been looking forward to this one!
Would really like to see if you can recommend the ME! I don´t know if i should get the ME or the Megasquirt...
FYI, in EU and JDM models, 1.8 NBs also have their ECU on passenger floor.
Never bought a YTer's merch before but I'm getting that shirt no doubt
Awesome modeling miata dad😂😂 love the merch gonna pick a hat up when I get paid
NB Time baby!!! 🥰
GLAD YOUR FINALLY BACK!!! Why this ECU? Is it better than a Magi Squirt Pro? Is it less expensive than a MSP? Is it easier to use and/or have more features than a MSP? Thanks for the Video!!! Best Always, Chris Zinn
Buying an m442 will save you about 300-400 dollars in comparison to a Megasquirt 3
Yes! Another Miata Dad video!
Hey Greg nice clutch squeak
Love these types of videos! Please tell me this is going to be an naturally aspirated build 🐢
That is my plan, although I'm not completely decided on the exact direction of NA power yet 😊
@@TheCarPassionChannel bro if I could subscribe to you twice I would !
Greg it would be crazy if you add up a new stroker kit from Maruha they are going to sale a new Crank 87mm with beter pricing than their previous stroker kit.
It should be around 1200$ the price and som more technical stuff will be out in April. :)
Could you take us through your cold start tuning procedure? Even though I’m on a dyno tuned megasquirt 3 my cold start could use some improvements. I guess the process is quite similar between the ME441 and MS3?
Thanks for another great video!
That T-shirt is great 👍
Suggest putting a smiley mouth on the shirt- make the block look like a smiling alien with ET like eyes (Cam pulleys)
My NB1 ‘00 has the ecu in the passenger footwell 😊
I'm assuming that you live outside the US then? Since the EUDM and the JDM NBs had the ECU in the footwell. Don't know why it's in above the pedals in the USDM model, seems weird to have different locations since it's basically the same car
Why not Megasquirt for the nb?? What made you switch over?
Probably because ME gave him a free ECU or - more likely - paid him to run it.
Nice job Sir!
How do u only have 100k subscribers?
Great video. It's helpful you take extra editing time to show what not to do vs just cutting to the finish product..I tried to take a data log, but it was more of a scatter plot. Jk. Poop jokes. Any one else hear the squeak toy shift sound? Makes it impossible to be upset. Pedal noise?
Welcome back ,was worried you got Covid 19 . Will ME software run on Chrome book?
Please make a video on how to make the coldstart better. I bought a miata with me221. It almost didn't start with 5 degrees Celsius outside. I got it starting pretty good now thank to hp performance (thanks for that tip in a previous video) but at around 0 degrees Celsius it still doesn't want to start right away and if it starts it dies again. After that it just starts fine with no problem. If you can't still thanks for the good and fun content, keep it coming always enjoy it :D
Look at your ASE (After Start Enrichment) 'Start.Inj.ASE.Trim' I also had an issue where I hadn't entered the dead times of the new injectors properly that made it struggle, worth checking if you've changed injectors
@@yakhunt9424 Thanks I will look into that. I don't think the injectiors have been changed. I at least didn't change them.
@@Stranio34 Also join ME Tips and Tricks on facebook, lots of remote tuners available for a small fee to really nail it for you!
Dude, that is an awesome shirt.
I think, for the uninitiated (but interested, like myself), it would be nice to get a comprehensive understanding of the advantages the 442 offers over the 221. The 442 is provided with a wideband O2 sensor but that's about the only part that I understand.
Also includes onboard logging and direct EGT input, as well as Drive By Wire Motor Driver :)
FINALLY!!!!
Hi Greg, How about getting a 323f Lantis for your next project??? Keep up the good work...
i Got a voltage peak in my me221 and now my 1.8vvt is technically totall loss. Everything is burned up
Miata dad I need you help. So I installed this ecu into my nb1 but it won’t run even on a base map. I got it to start once but it runs on 2 cylinders only. I’ve gone through everything you talk about in this vid but now the injectors aren’t firing at all car ran fine before the ecu I even went back to stock to see if maybe my injectors died but no it’s all back to normal now. I would really appreciate some help this is a headache.
Thanks for all the awesome content❤
Love the merch take my money.
Lol I doing that right now broke thermostat housing changing a stuck thermostat lmao
Thanks crepe
Do you prefer this ecu over a megasquirt 3 pro? I’m buying one soon for a supercharged 94 Miata.
it's been so long!
Any reasons why you’d run this ECU over a mega squirt ??
Im here dad
9:35 Can you do a short tutorial on how to fix that belt squeal? XD. My NB2 sounds exactly like that from a colt start, and I have to let it warm up for 10+ minutes for it to go away. I've already replaced and tightened the belts...
Tighten your alternator belt
I see they haven't fixed display scaling in MEITE for 4k high dpi displays. I usually set my laptop to 1080p at 100% scaling before running it so I can actually see what's going on.
Check out the info in the description and let me know if that's what you're talking about
@@TheCarPassionChannel maybe they have then, cheers Greg! 👍
1. Does this bypass the immobilizer? 2. Can it be tuned to pass an OBD II emissions test?
Are your injectors cleaned and flow tested? the single 02 can't compensate for the variation in flow between the injectors.
so are you prefering to tune with ms or me?
Why ME442 instead of m3pro?
Took a while to upload
overheatin pistons? you tryna tell me my stock NA is in danger?
Im sorry if my quetion is perhaps stupid, but recently my ECU is giving and error check engine that apparently the EGR valve send , and after reading, loking and investigating, my EGR valve basically screw my ECU, so i need to change it or my Check engine will not dissapear. No i read that to change this, also need to change inmobilizer .. sice keys are married with ecu and immobilizer,
How then you put a new ECU (this ME442) and not change immobilizaer, my car is NB 2003 1.6 MK2
I want to delete this check engine the easy, fast and cheap way possible.
If ill buy a ecu then perhaps this one you recommend on this video, does NOT need to remove immobilizaer, or do i neeed to go for my OEM one ??
Anyway hope this is clear.. if not let me know.. thanks and amazing channel !!!
After base map, is it not possible to use autotune option to make the map better while driving? Or without proper dyno tune you cant get it to run as it should?
Does the o2 sensor plug into the oem harness?
still have 16minutes to go but i just realized....
you have the wrong seats in there O.o
is the diff right? lol
Did you add an IAT or are you still using the stock MAF?
MAF is now deleted, and used the stock IAT, but I'm having some inconsistent fueling issues which I think might be related to it. I will be swapping out to the GM IAT soon
noice intro
I've got a'95 M Edition... So, it's running Windows 95... Maybe?