Dropped Frames - E3 2018 - Bethesda Conference
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2018
- Dropped Frames is a show featuring hosts itmeJP, Ezekiel_III and CohhCarnage where they discuss the on goings of being a full-time streamer. Follow at DroppedFrames
Guests include:
/ annemunition
/ shannonzkiller
/ admiralbahroo
Check out more of @Ezekiel_III at / ezekiel_iii and @CohhCarnage at / cohhcarnage
Feel free to drop feedback in the comments or jump into the discussion every Wednesday at 1:00 PM Eastern! - เกม
Going back in time and this is just heartbreaking.
Shannon: “Chat when do you think ES6 will release?”
Someone in chat: “2022”
Shannon: “Oh fuck off...”
Me in 2021 with nothing more than the title screen they showed during this conference.... 😂😫😭
23:55 Intro
27:00 Pete Hines Intro
29:55 Rage 2 Music Act
33:40 Rage 2
36:32 Rage 2 Trailer and Gameplay
43:25 The Elder Scrolls Legends
45:45 The Elder Scrolls Online
52:00 Doom Eternal
55:30 Quake Champions
1:00:20 Prey Mooncrash DLC
1:05:16 Wolfenstein Youngblood
1:08:45 Pete Hines (VR Stuff)
1:10:55 Todd Howard
1:13:50 Skyrim Very Special Edition
1:15:45 Fallout 76
1:36:30 Fallout Shelter
1:38:00 The Elder Scrolls Blades
1:45:05 Starfield
1:47:13 The Elder Scrolls VI
1:48:30 Pete Hines Outro
1:49:45 Dropped Frames Discussion
The pre register for mobile games are about giving you stuff but it basicly just send your phone a notification when is releases
It is absurd to say that ES Mobile is taking time away from a mainline game.
Exactly
Yes but they also need money to fund their single player rpgs. Mobile games take so few resources that it wouldn't make a dent in the budget for es6, and they make absurdly large profits. The existence of an elder scrolls mobile game could easily end up giving more budget to es6, as long as Bethesda chooses to invest their new profits there.
It's their big money maker but it also costs a lot of money to make. Mobile games don't make skyrim level profits, but they're incredibly cheap to build, so the dollar per investment ratio blows big budget games out of the water.
Of course Bethesda could totally pocket the profit, but they could've pocketed the initial investment just as easily. If they choose to take the profits and funnel it into es6, then es6 gets a higher budget boost than if they just got the money that went into creating the mobile game.
yeah calm down guys bethesda is a Huge company now with 3 or 4 studios not all 4 studios are working on 1 project Duh...that's like thinking EA works on 1 game at a time.
Imagine being so fucking MORONIC that you think the team making a MOBILE GAME are the same team making a flagship elder scrolls title.
If your looking for another mainline fallout game then fallout 76 might not be for you, there's a reason it's not named fallout 5, it looks like its essentially gonna be in the same vein as rust.
By the way, that Amazon Echo Skyrim was no joke. It's a real thing!
Well it is a Joke but they also made it which is AWESOME!!!!
You can actually pinpoint the second when her heart breaks in half 1:23:07
Yes tis pretty hilarious
About time!
I've never seen a more confused group of people that couldn't understand what Todd was talking about. If it is so confounding what 76 is, what games are real and what is a joke, then you may not have as good of a read on the gaming industry. If you thought that every single mechanic could be discuss during this show- it would take several hours. I know its frustrating, but holy crap- watching you guys react was even more frustrating. I'm late to watching this- but I'm sure you've found a lot of the answers out there by now since they are out there. I used to be a big fan of JP, but get a grip, stay positive, stay healthy
All I need to know is what are the perks, can I turnoff PvP, and is there Vats
But other then Fallout everything looks good
Always have ShannonZKiller and AnneMunition during the Bethesda Presscon every year! They have so much great insight!
Anne is great but it seemt like shannon wasnt even watching the conference, she was wrong on almost everything she said which was discussed or showed during gameplay. i dont dislike any of them but i guess talking to eachother they sometimes miss alot
That shout he said at the refridgeator was actually really the shout for the ICe Shout :D And yes its downloadable for ALEXA
I love hearing the comments from Shannon..... /s
"why would they announce elder scrolls? everyone knows you're making it." while literally the beginning of the same video half of the people were questioning if they were even gonna make another ES mainline game. I really hate hindsight bullsh*t especially when used to hate on stuff
TheDranzer259 which is why they should wait until the end to give there opinions on this stuff.
agreed
Yeah it's just par for the course.
I love everyone here but they did it with microsoft as well. Up until cyberpunk any trailer that didn't show enough gameplay was met with "where the hell is the gameplay though? For all we know it could be a mobile game!" And then comes cyberpunk and people lost their shit over how amazing it was going to be.
You thought that was bad? I got annoyed at the constant crying over ESO. I was like "We get it, you have 0 ability to wait for a new ES." Like, let that game have its time for those who care. If I was the devs I probably wouldn't say a word about ES until right before release because of how annoying people get about stuff like this. They just shit on it as if it is the worst game out knowing it isn't that bad. After a certain point I just wonder if they complained to complained.
Sol that's basically what they said about blades too. As far as mobile goes that looked alright and Shannon said they were keeping fams waiting for years which makes me mad. Just like with fallout 76 hate, the devs don't owe you anything and I want them to make what they want. Just because you don't personally want that doesn't mean it's a bad game
If you're coming from the Dropped Frames Post Show E3, I think the guitarist notices Danny O'Dwyer around 32:19
It's funny coming back to this comment session after the launch of 76
Finally! :D
You really should've cover the Devolver Digital Conference. It was funny as can be and just an all around nice change for and E3 showing.
Has JP been positiv to any games this E3? :)
Don't think so, it's his nature and same goes for Bahroo. It's fucking unbearable to listen to and I hope this is the last e3 with Bahroo
Last of Us 2 I think
True
I'm not surprised that Fallout 76 is coming out so soon is because it's mostly just Fallout 4 online. There are already a ton of re-used assets.
Even saying fallout 4 online is disingenuous, there's zero story. They don't show any dialogue or friendly humanoid NPCs, I bet the AI Overseer just gives you fetch quests via the pipboy
19:00 - when will they untie their IP from the MMO? probably at the same time Warcraft 4 is released.
in other news - Elderscrolls VI - probably 2022.
I think JP is confused in the beginning. He keeps talking about Anne May, when her name is AnneMunition.
Very good show JP! I was a little annoyed by Bahroos constant negativity tho :(
Likewise, I am glad Shannon at least called him a negative nancy because no one else had the balls to say something to him. I understand to be skeptical to games but he was just throwing negativity nearly every second he could. Was getting annoying after awhile...
TES6 is in pre-production, they haven't even come up with a name, it was just a teaser.
skyrim on alexa is actually a thing btw
If you hate something you make noise, if you love something you sit quietly and enjoy it. Personally I think this is the biggest problem with game developers today, they listen way to much to the feedback of angry minorities that don't even know why they like the games they like. People have been asking for this kind of Fallout for decades and now because Rust exists it's suddenly a horrible idea? I love the Fallout games but I am so excited for Fallout 76 just because it's something different, please Bethesda ignore what we think, ignore our opinions and just make the game you want to make.
You have an interesting perspective but that is for a parallel fanbase not the core of Bethesda single player games. I don't think anyone would complain if we didn't have to wait so long for these releases. There is probably gonna be 10 years between Skyrim and ES6 and there is 3 years between Fallout 4 and 76. If you know how long game development takes you know that it takes 3-6 years to make a AAA title which means the second they were done with Fallout 4 they were already making 76. As for ES6 Todd said there are in "Pre-Production" which means it has at least 3-6 years before it will come out.
Basically if you want a single player Fallout game you're gonna be waiting around 6 years before you will see it. That's why people are sad/angry at 76 not just because they don't want it. I am personally interested in playing 76 but I am more sad that it isn't what I want: another Fallout singleplayer game.
People have wanted a co-op Fallout/TES game for a long time, yet they have never delivered and Fallout 76 and ESO are the things people didn't want. No one wants an MMO esque game, they would just like a drop in and out Co-op PVE experience.
Nokturnal Lex maybe you may not but i personally am very excited for fallout 76.
ThaPinkGuy all that shows is that people need to learn to be more patient. It is good for a company to experiment otherwise they get called out for there games being to similar a good example of this is Call of Duty and if it takes them years to do so then so be it. This game will probably also introduce a new audience to the fallout franchise and increasing your fanbase is always a good thing.
Jacob Mcclendon You're in the minority. Most of the old Bethesda fans fell in love with their single player RPGs and the great mods fans made for them. Those people obviously prefer PVE and don't want annoying griefers and little kids ruining their game. You also lose mod support which is the main reason most Fallout and TES games have such longevity.
I love watching vids like this after the fact and watch people loose their shit and Jumping to conclusions lmao so good
Don't know why I'm surprised to see Andrew WK earlier on with him being in the UK for a festival the day before the conference. Jet lag doesn't affect him it seems lol.
I really like the hype meter.
U can only nuke the points on the map, so the Locations that are already in game, Playerbases that are neear that, will be blown up. You can play solo, but have always to be online. They only meant, you can avoid playing vs or with others ;)
Complaining only after a conference finishes should be a rule. Otherwise we get moaning without a reason like with elder scrolls
MrGamzi91 exactly
ESV was 11-11-11 so my guess its 2-2-2020 for ESVI
I don't understand how they can watch more than like 3 minutes of the FO76 reveal and not immediately get its like ARC and Conan Exiles..
Buidling is for crafting, crafting ammo, crafting weapons, armor and food.!!!! Also your Power Armor
Mods come with private Servers, and the Server Host has to make the mods on the server then
I don’t think elder scrolls will come out the year after next but I don’t know I don’t have 2020 vision
You have VATS it is in Real Time, you can still choose the Boyparts. PErks and SKills are in the game, with every level u can choosePerks from so called Perk Cards :)
If you Logg off, you take your base with you, with your C.A.M.P
I will say if fallout 76 does have the online part I don't mind it still going to be fun I've always wanted a online fallout and Elder scrolls minus the mmo part.
So have a lot of people..its just there a certain group that hates change.
Dude he Rage 2 protagonist is Walker Wasteland Ranger
I feel like everyone lost their shit over TES:Blades because they thought that was the only TES content in the near future. But if you check it out it's actually not bad
Zombiecod I agree and if they waited to see everything then they would have had not reason to complain in the first place.
It looked great, they just got worried that they were going to ONLY make a Mobile game.
Cyberwolf74 ...yes... That's what I... Said?
Cyberwolf74 like I said if they had just waited a few minutes before freaking out they would have seen that was not going to happen.
I got kinda hyped when I saw it was tile-based, then I got supremely disappointed when I saw it had "real time" combat.
Bahroo is like 5 Times to loud
I was thinking that you could prob toggle PVE or PVP. That way other players could attack you while flagged in PVP mode, while in PVE mode must be the SIngle play and building together aspect defending against Monster NPC as the vid showed only NPC's fighting your base. So if by any chance you get nuked by one of the Nuclear Missiles, as the nukes are random and your in that area your base is gone. Gonna have to rebuild again.
Mabey for example if i created a base in a certain spot I tell another player/Friend to come and join my game we create 2 bases in the same area and defend against monster NPC's. That's the survival aspect of building your base (PVE= just fighting monster NPC's. PVP=NPC's and PVPer's) If they include a feature that you can do quest's in groups that would be great.
But i am just speculating, but that's my thought on it.
jump force looks sick
man the crowd there was dead
Todd Howard broke the hype meter AGAIN!
No a somewhat small part of the team is actually working on elder scrolls 6 but nowhere near done but most of the team is working on fallout 76 and starfield
JP needs to order himself one of those outdoor outlet covers you can paint and just paint it the same color as the room so we dont see the outlet every time he moves.
Something like this: www.amazon.com/dp/B008BFZESY/ref=asc_df_B008BFZESY5507224/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B008BFZESY&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167140365824&hvpos=1o17&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10568056448754650860&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011803&hvtargid=pla-304972184533
Love the Grave t-shirt.... Swedish death metal forever
Look at tht hype meter yo lmao
It's like the Chinese New Year in a way. This E3 was the Year of the Entitled Douchebags.
They are ahead by like 2 seconds
The general incompetence shown here is incredible. The person at the end who said they didn't know where you begin to see info about the Fallout 76 beta obviously didn't listen to the last bit of the conference where the the URL was said. And that's only one of the many common sense things they failed to understand. Then they go all backwards on what they themselves said, at the beginning they kept asking for a TES6 reveal, then at the end "Why would they announce elder scrolls? Everyone knows you're making it." One of the most incohesive, all over the place, caviled and captious reactions to an E3 conference I've seen.
Good show last night. Almost wish it was just Cohh and JP though. There is plenty of commentary from just those two. A lot of talking over each other in this.
Yeah Bahroo is fucking horrible and extremely negative. Shannon and Anne where great.
I agree, 5 people is too much imo.
Matthew North "is fucking horrible and extremely negative". Oh man, the irony here.
Andrew Jones well it ain't your show now, is it?
Easy keyboard warrior. Dont be so butthurt over one small criticism.
Shannon genuinely looks, like she needs a hug after this.
I recovered when I saw Todd’s interview yesterday, but yea it was surprising to hear at first! Now I would say I am “cautiously hyped”!
I don't understand the hate Fallout 76 is getting. Sure people want a new Fallout, but its fairly obvious they werent going to do another regular one with the next gen so close. This looks interesting and its different. And it appears they are testing ideas for future games i.e potential coop. It offers something different and is a refreshing break. Maybe it will be average, maybe it will be amazing, but its surely going to be better than Rust, 7 Days etc...
BlueSpring it looks very generic. Thats whats sad.
elliot lemon it looks like Fallout. Fallout 4 wasn't incredible but it was still highly playable. I'm glad they are mixing it up a bit, testing a new approach to their franchises.
This_is_Citrus 4x bigger with nothing to do because there are no quest lines. It may as well just be Rust meets Sea of Thieves with a Fallout Theme. It looks like complete waste of Bethesda's time. It's like they don't know their own audience anymore.
The issue is all "Fans" that came with FO3 kept screaming Add co-op, add co-op why does bethesda not listen to us with FO4 where is co-op.
There's "add co-op", and then there's "add a bunch of random people in your world, with nukes that let them just press a button to destroy everything you have and make griefing that much easier." A lot of Fallout fans have a playstyle which makes them the prime targets for trolls and griefers, and instead of assuring us of a pve option for all us 'live and let live' players, they tried to hype people for built in griefing mechanics.
In an interview later, Todd Howard confirmed that pve won't even be an option, so that's just lovely then.
bahroo is actually one tye best co -host I think, he doesn’t talk a lot but he’s funny and is good at conveying what he wants to say!
Amir Ali I respectfully disagree I see him as a pessimist and whiny but to each his own.
...Blades looked kinda cool >.>
I think you do know exactly what Fo76 is, just don't want to believe it.
2024 for TES6, and that's IF Starfield comes out next year.
they have multiple studios now 4, I think they kind of leapfrog dev I'm thinking TE6 more like 2020ish. They used to be Only 1 or 2 max.
Did you chumps miss the fact that Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6 is going to be next gen? Even IF they had something they could show, which in the case of Elder Scrolls I'm pretty sure they don't. But if they did, they wouldn't be allowed to show it. Next gen games aren't going to be shown off until at least next year. I'm surprised X-Box and Sony even allowed Bethesda to announce that it's going to be next gen.
TES6 is 2020-2021 at the earliest. Remember they didn't show fuck all for Starfield, meaning there's nothing much of anything to show yet, meaning it's in early development. So that game is at the earliest Xmas 2019, even if they shoft a chunk of developers from Starfield to TES6 when they are done with thier part in Starfield, a game like TES6 takes a lot of work and time, it'll take at least 1-2 years past Starfield to be brought out.
Unless they accelerate development for TES6 and dump a shitton of resources on it, we won't see it any time soon.
The hate for Mobile is so fucking dumb at this day and age, maybe a few years ago but come on..
elderscrolls 4 will be minimum 2022. . the new console dowsnt drop till the end of 2020 and the first bethesda launch on that is gunna be starfield. . and then minimum 2 years before their next major release. . .bethesda studios doesnt release major titles close to each other
Missed it last night, Im 13 minutes in and Shannon already got a new follower, love the enthusiasm :D
58:30 Watching that guy try to hype the game makes me hurt inside. I feel sorry for him, deeply.
If they hadn't announced ES6 after that mobile game and said it was in active development... Todd may have not made it out of the building alive. The audience (especially Jesse Cox) started to look like rage virus zombies. He might also be a synth, so...
its a bit annoying when some of them are hyped and bahroo is laughing : /
jessie cox at TS 36:19
I’m not a leave a negative comment kinda guy but there were too many people for this one. Bahroo one of the most pessimistic of the whole dropped frames e3 coverage
Jesse Cox @ 1:37:50
51:18 "i dont know if we will ever get an elder scrolls 6"
1:47:32 ... ... need i say more?
These comments aged well LOL
Fallout 76 restricts griefing. So don’t worry.
While I get that you all were disappointed it wasn't a main game after years of waiting, I really, really dislike the attitude towards mobile games. I could barely endure watching you talk over Blades. While you don't have to like it, one at least has to acknowledge this milestone for mobile games from a techincal point of view.
you guys keep shitting on the mobile game but you know you are gonna play it
Memo to self: Don't read comments.
Pretty much
To me its obviously a conan x fallout game. how they pull it off it is the big question. im scared
I trust them, it's a live service so whatever can be fixed, will be fixed if they care enough. Which is more than I can say for most developers...
i have no clue what you are trying to say
Fallout looks quite fun
I agree!
Fallout 76 looked like Fallout 4.5
Think of it like a staircase, every new main game is two steps up and every spin off is a single step. Unless it's made by EA in which every new game that comes out is them falling down the staircase breaking every bone in their body...
Why are you guys all acting so petty. This was a good E3
I think Fallout 76 looks fucking awesome. Don't understand all the hate.
Louistje completely agree can not understand the hate either.
Jesus what's with all the pesermisim guys? I watch some peeps and they might have issues with some things, but this was just negative throughout, maybe bring a bit more excitement and optimism next year. Just a little.
Fallout 76 is bethesda going after games like rust, ark and so on. They just made a wholly survival based game.
Todd Howard looks like Linus from linustechtips with better hair.
tod howards new name is god coward
Am I the only one envisioning this as gta 5 plus rust plus fallout for 76?
GTA is mostly about vehicles and gathering money... Rust is mostly about survival and tension. 76 seems to be mostly about the world and what you can do in it. Something those two games severaly lack.
bahroo is a bad choice for these
HOW DO YOU PREORDER A FREE GAME?!
Masterofthemash simple you click the button and press confirm. :p
Jacob Mcclendon the pre order is probably what most pre orders are. You get special pre order bonuses.
honestly it was so annoying watching u guys critique the mobile game it actually looks good. If u have not played fallout shelter bethesda can actually make mobile games well
Wait, so.....Blades wasn't a joke? They're actually releasing that? It's a real game?
lol the joke was putting Skyrim in more places this is a diff game and who cares don't like dont play it all this bitching is funny
Green Smartie you realize it is FREE right? I do not understand all of the hate.
people are just hating it because they don't understand how game dev works, and think es6 would be out next month if they didn't put a tiny portion of their budget to a highly profitable mobile game.
Yep its real and will probably make them millions of dollars..Mobile = Money = is that hard to understand?
Bahroo has been so terrible for these...
I get some may hate him, but i personally like him being there to take it all back a notch so it isn't just an hype echo chamber. Makes it more... grounded to me i guess?
It's not about being critical of the content tho. He doesn't say anything constructive, he repeats stuff other members said and piggypbacks to make loud horrible kindergarten jokes. I just cringe and wait for him to finish talking. Worst moments are when he interrupts others so he can throw out a cringy "joke"
Every sentence ummmm... aaaa...
Admiral Bahroo seems to make over the top remarks and overly dislikes things just to do it. Hoping he doesn’t make a return next year, doesn’t meld with the rest of the panel or the general Dropped Frames vibe.
Where's the E3 2018
PC Gaming Show ? Also not showing chat reactions on these E3 videos is laughable. I thought you guys were professional content producers Come on bro...
TheTomtah showing the chat reactions would be pointless because of the hype meter it is just constant spam of that command. Which is unfortunate as I agree that showing the chat with out that would be a great addition.
experimental game my ass....they need to stress test their servers - thats about it. They are not interested in your feedback - the game is out in under 5 months - its too late to do anything other than balance testing and server load testing. And its not the RISK you guys are making it out to be - there's been bethesda games u guys liked and games u guys have not - they do a great job in supporting those games but any game u try is a risk - if u think u wont like the game, wait & see what the response is, otherwise quit complaining about early looks at the game ur gonna buy anyways - this isnt a steam early access by devs that abandon their games and this isnt zenimax studios (an outlet studio under bethesda)...use ur heads, seriously.
Well yeah its a beta, not early access or Alpha..beta means everything is in the game already and just needs to be tested and tweaked, you don't make major changes in betas usually its too late.
What they said the BETA was for was mainly for tweaking the amount of things needed in the world, balancing how many players there should be at any given time, and I suspect the radius of the nukes...
Cmon people ES6 doesnt excuse them for Blades....
John Adam and why not it is a free mobile game what is so bad about that? As he said fallout shelter got more then all of there fallout games combined so of course it makes sense they want to do the same with elder scrolls. Furthermore you got your elder scrolls 6 announced so I do not see the problem.
First there are no free mobile games.If there is no price there are micro transactions which is worse. About the ES series its just that Beth should respect the games-people that made them that successful. Every ES that comes out is worse than the previous and if they didn't want to make the mobile one there would b no ES6 announcement since it will b done in 5-10 years at least. My opinion is that they shouldn't be that greedy. They don't have to make money from every platform that exists. They should just try to b better...on fallout and the es, the rest are amazing
John Adam you clearly have not played much mobile games. The game will probably have micro transactions true but they will almost certainly be optional just like in fallout shelter. It also makes perfect sense that they are going to wait for the release of the next gen to make the elder scrolls game and why shouldn’t they as they will then be able to deliver a better game to the fans. In regards to the mobile game not being loyal to the fanbase fallout shelter proves that is not true with how many people have downloaded it. Furthermore what is to say that some of the profits from the mobile game will not be put into making elder scrolls 6 better? In regards to each being worse then the last I respectfully disagree and since the fanbase has not gotten smaller over the years it would seem like the majority would disagree as well.
"free" mobile game. No doubt it will be monetized out the ass. Freemium games are something Bethesda should NOT dabble in.
Sky Guy as I said they would almost certainly be Optional micro transactions just like in fallout shelter. Also they have already dabbled in mobile games with the the game I have mentioned several times and they were extremely successful at it.
I've been trying to give AdmiralBahroo but I just don't like him.
not many people seem to
Same with me. I was hoping he wouldn't be on this one..
Man, Fallout 76 looks terrible... It was kinda funny seeing the hype meter rocket up during the trailer, then plummet as they talked about it being online, then go into the negative when they started showing the empty gameplay.
The most #$%@ed thing of all; online means no mods!
Grimwolf then you have not researched it much as they have confirmed mod support.
If I fell asleep at all, it was because you guys sapped my energy by your lack of enthusiasm... And I say that, not because you _should_ enjoy every thing, but maybe not acting like your sleeping, and maybe comment on a few things, otherwise what's the point in watching your stream over another?
I thought they were talking plenty across the whole thing.
Delete Bahroo
The fact that fallout 4 has been selling more doesnt make a better game or a game the fans of the original fallout would want. Not even close. Same thing for the fans of morrowind, the game that saved Beth. Skyrim is waaay worse than Morrowind for them. Fallout shelter is nothing like the original Fallout. It has no price so yes it has a huge number of downloads but its not a (rpg) game. Its a way to spend time (and money) like most of mobile games. Its not the end of the world, its just sad. Gaming studios turning to corporations and all this creativity wasted on...crap
Please get rid of Bahroo. This is my first TH-cam comment ever so that's saying something.
Yeah, couldn't agree more. How can you find a way to be pessimistic and negative about every game
never heard about q champions, but it looks worse then q3. wtf is that.