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I've dropped from c2 to d2 and gone back up like 5 times. There are players who should be like c3 and there are players who should be in plat respectfully. Diamond is a mess rn
Funny you say this cos I was c2 earlier this season, at my relative peak. Now I'm trying to cling onto d3 for the life of me as I either have a bad game, match up with bad tm8s, or get triple flip reset mustyd on
yeah, I am climbing back to c2 after a mix of those as well (got down to diamond 3 after a ranked session), c2 is an abomination. Ex gc's left and right, some games are easy, some games are RLCS level. It's not fun.@@alecs9079
Honestly, this feels like a much more accurate statement of where diamond is at. I’ve been up as high as C1 and then up and down between D3 and D2 and then had an extremely bad run all the way down to D1. I think probably the most frustrating part is the absolutely crazy inconsistency with both your teammates and your opponents. You can have a D3 game that like what we saw on the video at D1. you can be in D1 and see crazy mechanics. This type of inconsistency makes it extremely difficult to institute a game plan that consistently works for each game.
As someone who's been stuck in diamond 3 for the past couple months (usually Champ 1), inconsistency is the name of the game for high diamond. Every single person in diamond has good mechanics OR good gamesense OR good mental. You can have someone hitting flicks and resets but cuts every rotation or votes to FF/flames people at the three minute mark. You can also have someone like me, who can't fast kickoff, fast aerial, wavedash, etc. and has to compensate for that with good positioning, knowing when to challenge and when to back off, etc. Lots of diamond games also have one monumental whiff that gives up a goal, meaning the games can feel a bit random. You can have a game that feels better than most of my Champ 1 games, with really good saves and shots from both sides, but then someone completely whiffs on a ground ball and it trickles into the net for a 0-1 loss. I refuse to comment on how often I'm the one who whiffs.
My son is also in the same boat and feel this is exactly his experience. He's not mechanically good as he just wants to play for fun but he loves tactics and has watched a few videos on them and lands up continually struggling to compensate for people who have no idea, like, overcommit with a shot and give the ball away to make a 2v1 defence situation.
@@greatbriton8425 tell him to keep at it he's young! He can be the next zen or Daniel. As for me I'm pushing 30 I'm probably just a diamond for life lol.
As someone who was C1 for 2 seasons, and peaked at C2 being stuck now in D3 I cannot agree more. I am not super mechanical either, my highlight are my passes, and that can be hard with the range of players in D3 (some hitting resets, and some who can barely Ariel). I have also seen the most amount of throwers this season than any other.
I was a Champ before the "big reset" of season 11. Now I'm stuck D2 and D3 depending on the day. I'm one of those people with champ rewards in diamond.
I climbed from D1 to D3 in one night. Then fell back to D2 Division 1 the next night. Diamond is the epitome of inconsistency in RL. You’ll see plat mistakes mixed with champ highlights and often by the same players lmao
nahnah, you'll meet gold mistakes and you will see GC highlight with cross map dribbles and double flip resets.. diamond is the epitome of "boosted players to bad to be boosted higher, diamond inconsistency, washed champs, hardstuck should've been champs and gc's that wants an ego boost".. the latter one being a pretty standard 2/10 games lately.
There’s a lot of boosters in diamond that are boosting people up to get the champ rewards which might be part of the problem. Once they get the rewards and start coming back down the ranks it ends up a mess. Half of the people in diamond probably don’t play that much with the last few seasons being so bad. Almost every team that you come across that is partied up has a Smurf carrying. The amount of golds and low plats that dominate the lobbies in 3s is ridiculous and they have team mates that are all kitted out in champ gear with the tournament title that can’t even hit the ball unless it’s into their own net. I keep getting the champs on my team while the other team gets the s13 gold tournament winner that is somehow already in diamond
tournament ranking has nothing to do with comp ranking, u can be gc tournament winner and be a champ 2 in comp, same with gold tournament winner, where u can be higher or lower ranked in comp
In the last 5 months, I have gone through all of diamond and following are my experiences: Diamond 1 allows you to get wayyyy better at aerials because not everybody is trying to hit the ball all at once as in plat3. I also think this is the rank where you spend the most time in diamond. You either get stuck and bounce between d1 and plat3, or you learn how to press through, and proceed to d2, d3 and into champ. Diamond 2 is a big skill jump from diamond 1. This is where most basic mechanics get consistent, and you start learning more advanced mechs. You will have a wide variety of people, from those who can barely half flip and just position very well, to those who can hit reset musty doubles but have no idea how to rotate or what to do if you challenge them early in the air. Diamond 3 is very interesting. Div 1 and 2, is about the same as d2, just more consistent. As soon as you hit div3, 90-95% of players are either people who have been carried to champ for the rewards and are now falling down, washed champs from several seasons ago, or actual champs that are just stuck down in d3 because the rank is so saturated with champs, you basically have to get a skill level of high c1 in order to get through it into champ. This last section makes up probably 50-60% of upper d3. I think the best explanation for this is that the entire ranked ladder has basically been shifted half a rank. C1 has been shifted to high d3 to low c1, d3 has been shifted to low d3 and high d2, d2 has been shifted to low d2 and high d1, and d1 has been shifted to low d1 and high plat3. This makes it harder to rank up as in order to rank up, you have to get through over half of what she skill should be/used to be. As to why this happened, I have no idea. Anyway, that's just my take on the situation, good luck to any of you trying to get through :)
I would go as far as to say it’s happened for most ranks up to C3. The past few seasons have been so terrible even in C1-C3. You never know if it’s going to be a normal champ game or some mechanical GC that’s just washed down or is living in champ. There’s also so many GV titles now in ranked that it just is normal at this point.
As a c1, that was kinda carried to champ a while ago with a duo but then we kinda stopped talking to each other, matter is back then I was going against people I could relatively go against while still being a diamond. Now this season I decided to play soloq ranked for the first time and I was getting either c2s or plat3s in my diamond matches. Now in champ the skill Diff between now and when that huge rank change that happened sometime ago, is much different.
Diamond is such a weird rank. You get a lot of displaced champs who got fucked by the rank reset, smurfs(Its both an excuse and not an excuse) and players that polarise each other, rlly badly.
There is no rank resets any longer. The whole placement matches at the start of each season are superficial. Your MMR is the exact same in the background and goes up and down the exact same.
I'm a D3/C1 player right now in 2s. There's a pretty high variability in what people are capable of game to game. I see it in both myself and the other players in the game. Some games will have people casually hitting flip resets. Other games have players that can't seem to clear the ball off the backboard. Sometimes games start off with an amazing opponent and then I win. Sometimes I start out dominating and then lose. Overall, the average game is average. My rank is fairly stable (trending slowly upward over months). I usually go pretty even, maybe up or down a few games in a session. Sometimes I go down really badly, but then I get it back without much trouble. I'd totally agree that consistency (or lack thereof) defines diamond pretty well. As you observed, these guys all kind of have some advanced mechs in their pockets. The diamond experience is one of constantly limit testing and pushing yourself. However, unlike a GC+ level player who probably just does a less ideal version of a mechanic when limit testing, diamonds fail hard during limit testing as we're still in the pass/fail state of mastery for many mechanics. I imagine I could probably rank up a bit more in the short term by playing very reserved and safe, but I'm not sure if that really serves me in the long run. Obviously I should always strive to play smarter and safer, but you also have to try to stretch sometimes too. Also that's an interesting observation that the player distribution is so skewed toward diamond.
@@keipra champ is just diamond as you describe it, but a bit more consistent and depending on if your teammates fit to you or nah. It's definetly more fun tho than diamond.
The problem with Diamond is that you've got some people with 50s like Fireburner and mechanics like Little Timmy and other guys with Firstkiller mechanics but the gamesense of a literal rock
when you learn how to actually defend like i do in diamond, u can counter freestylers and lredoct redirections and clear it with lettle effort. ppl in diamond arnt patient so they tend to get in the way of clearing it but when they arnt, its quite easy. if i cant clear, ill block it for the tm8s or to counter, leave it and rotate back or back up preparing for a better counter. the main pain is cowards who have to demo to get goals. they know ur too good in defense so they go for bumps and demos just to be able to get goals another example of wannabes with no skill who are scared of u as a player as they know that u could probally solo them as u no what ur doing. ive actually solod from a 3 down match and won because ik how to counter groups of people solo on games, i learned how to do so. im better as a solo anyway.
Diamond is so diverse lol, I'm diamond one and one game you can be playing one of the sweatiest matches of your career versus people who deserve to be champ and the game ends up going 4 minutes into overtime, and then the next game is slow as molasses and you're playing with kids who belong in plat 2, it really sucks because you just never know what to expect.
RL tracker only tracks players who have been looked up before on the site. You can look up Psyonix rank distributions shortly after each season. Last season champ and above was only about 6% of the players, Diamond made up 21% of the 2s player base. Diamonds when people start to care so that's why there's more of them than ever that show up on RL Tracker. They wanna see how they stack up. Champs have almost certainly looked themselves up or been looked up by a curious Diamond player. I doubt there's a GC or above who hasn't been tagged on there. On their distribution it also shows ~20% of players in champ or above, which is inconsistent with Psyonix. Using both of those statements, Diamond and above was top 27% from Psyonix's official distribution, but around 55% of people on RL tracker. This means theres a higher density of RL tracker players in high ranks, High ranks play more, have a higher chance of being on RL tracker, and they're more active. It fades out a lot of the lower ranks who: a) don't know what RL Tracker is or care enough b) haven't been looked up either out of curiosity,, by luck or because they're unremarkable This 35% number represents 35% of the "truer" fans of Rocket League who have also played in the last few seasons, inactives wouldn't count. When you think that diamonds are 21 of that top 27 percent of players from the Psyonix distribution, its kind of sad to say, but they're the bottom 78 percent or so of the "decent or above" player base. It sounds even more cramped when put that way, but many people would agree.
Diamond started to become a hangout place for plats and champions. Im stuck in d2 jumping between d1 and d3 and its the most annoying experience ever because only 1/5 of my games looks like diamonds
last week i was d3 and a little in champ this week im d2 div 2. its been like this all season, i go up then i go down and repeat. I have 7 champ wins and i need 3 more for the rewards lol. i wont ever use it if i got it but still 😂
every rank is like this. maybe excluding gc3 ssl because it’s bad perfection at that point. some games feel slower then others they feel like ur tm8 belongs 3 ranks down thats just how gaming is. i’m about to hit gc2 and i still get games like this. but accusing a smurf bc u lost a game or it felt faster etc is not going to help you rank up. look at the reply look at what you could have done differently if you truly think it was check the mmr do some research on the supposed smurf and report the player
@@davidlaforet-sj6gl where did i say i accused someone of smurfing? You also won't understand what i said in the comment if you're not in diamond/champion rank and also i didn't ask for advice on ranking up as i don't even play rocket league anymore lol
The most toxic ranks I feel like are starting to become gold and plat I recently got out of gold into plat and through all the matches there was always a little toxicity through the opponent when they started to loss
Yes and it’s really frustrating too since all it takes is one little mistake and they either leave the match, grief or type a whole toxic essay in chat
As a Diamond 1 player, games are split between all solo queuers which are fun games and a "grab a gold" games where a champ crashes our match in a party with a trash rank & clips all over us with flip resets, speed kickoffs etc bc D1 haven't got the mecanics nailed down yet.
Going off of the rocket league tracker stats for this information is invalid because rocket league tracker only checks accounts that actually check their rank on the website. According to the actual Psyonix provided stats on the rocket league subreddit, as of last season, 21.33% of the player-base is diamond. 32.74% of the player-base is in platinum, the most populated rank set in ranked doubles. 28.58% of the player-base is in gold. Considering that bronze does not exist, and that these are the middle 3 rank sets, this is not surprising, there isn't a problem here. That's just what is normal for the mid range ranks in all competitive games. Comparing rocket league to valorant, Iron is the same as rocket league's bronze, which is underpopulated. Bronze in valorant is comparable to rocket league's silver, but valorant's bronze is more populated than rocket league's silver, but it has been recovering population as of recently, with about 9.43% of the player-base in it as of last season. Valorant's silver is comparable to rocket league's gold, but valorant seems to have the highest concentration of players here whereas rocket league has the highest concentration of players in platinum. Valorant's gold is comparable to rocket league's platinum, but gold in valorant has a lower concentration than silver, and it's the opposite in rocket league. Valorant's platinum is comparable to rocket league's diamond, which is where a large fall off of player population concentration happens, and it's very similar in rocket league as you go into diamond 2 and diamond 3. Valorant's diamond is essentially our champ, where the largest fall of player concentration happens. Ascendant is grand champ, immortal is supersonic legend, and radiant is top 100. Smurfing is a problem in all competitive games, not just rocket league, and it will unfortunately always be a problem, but it is not as common as people say it is. There isn't going to be a smurf every other game in any rank, and people who say there is are coping about not being at the rank they think they deserve. After watching this video, I took 20 completely random replays from this season at diamond 1 to diamond 3 and there was a total of 3 smurf accounts across all of the replays. 2 of them were in one game on the same team playing together, and the other was carrying a friend to what I can only assume to be champ 1 and rewards as it is nearly the end of the season. Diamond is not the most populated rank, it never has been, and it only displays that on rocket league tracker. If there are 2 million players in diamond at 21.33% of the player-base, platinum must have at least 3 million. But those numbers are also wrong, as other estimates show that rocket league averages nearly 20 million active monthly players, meaning diamond would be at under 10% of the population with under 2 million players. That is why using the rocket league tracker website for these numbers is incredibly invalid, so next time someone creates one of these videos, I hope they use the actual psyonix provided stats on the subreddit. I'm aiko, I'm a supersonic legend rocket league player, and thank you for coming to my Ted talk. As an edit, I also want to point out that as gc1 contains 1.5% of the players, and according to rl tracker its at 81k players, 1.5% of 5.4 million is 81k. therefore nearly 75% of the player-base is not accounted for based on rl trackers own numbers.
Cbell you should make a video on how a majority of players playstyles has transitioned to being focusing solely on mechanics and very little on game sense. It’s been happening more and more the past couple of seasons
It's pretty simple. They don't care. A giant Corporation bought the game and has done absolutely nothing to adjust the MMR structure since. In the first thing they did was make it so you can't leave casual games, essentially making it ranked. What is the difference? You have an MMR in casual you just can't see it. And the algorithm for casual might be worse than the algorithm for ranked, constantly in lobbies with a plat and a GC in the same game. Somebody tell epic we would be willing to wait another minute for a good game, fix the goddamn algorithm.
Yeah, casual is absolutely broken. I'm a diamond 2 and somehow I got matched against a SSL tournament winner in casual, it's just ridiculous how dumb it is
I hit c1 a year ago, and haven’t gotten there since. I’ve been hard stuck at d2/3 for a long time and I feel like there are so many other people that just don’t belong in diamond 2/3. Some people are hitting flip resets, some can’t even aerial. Ranked is so scuffed nowadays.
I have around 3 -5k hours. I was up to gc in a few types. A few games from my gc rewards about 3 years ago. I took a break after not getting it because I didn't want to grind back up. I kept mid to high champ for quite a while and then moved. When I started playing again after about 6 month or so I was around d2. I haven't been into champ since. I played with a friend who was gc2 or gc3. And we were still losing games in d3. I have played solo and I'm still getting matched against people that have gc titles and carry a lobby by 400 or more points. It's too the point where I'd rather play something else. I sure hope I can get another car pack though. Maybe another 20 dollar white fennec or a football team for my car. Or better yet! Maybe I can have them take away another key feature like trading. Maybe take my boost trails or the jumping feature.
@@Jojo-bj1gs I think what happened is that the algo is making them play against other champ 3 or champ 2 or something, or the oc is just lying cuz if youre gc u will still play like a gc no matter what lower rank u go to
Remember the parts where I said I took multiple month breaks multiple times? And I only play a few times a week now for an hour or so each time. I was in gc 3 years ago and have probably only put another 200 or 300 hours in since then. I don't train and I rarely solo q anymore. And I quite literally played with the gc2/gc3 guy with another former c2 in a d3/c1 lobby and lost a few games. I don't have shit to prove to internet people. I'll be the first to say I can't musty or reset or whatever. I'm just vocalizing what my fairly experience has been. Started playing in 2016. Got rewards for pretty much every season up until around season 13 or 14 prior to the wiped reset. Sometimes you don't have to believe things for them to be true. They are just are.
The thing with diamond in my opinion is that its quite literally random every single game. I play rocket league about 4-8 hours a day since like 2 months ago and I've went up and down between d2 and c1 multiple times, and its not only the inconsistency from me but also the inconsistency from the speed and quality of each game. 1 game was about as slow as the d2 game you showed in the video and then the next game i would be put in a lobby way faster than the d3 one you showed, and I also tend to play down and up to whoever I'm playing against as well so maybe that can be another thing that's the reason why diamond is very random. But I feel like diamond is such a chaotic rank that its almost impossible to sum it up in a 13 minute video.
Since starting RL a year ago ive been in Diamond for almost the whole time which says alot. It felt like the people i was playing with just got better equally which made us all stuck in DIamond.
I'm an OG and yeah, I've just been hard stuck Diamond for years. Granted it is also a me issue of just holding the status quo, but the difference in skills from even 2yrs ago to now is just wild. Like every time I start learning a mech or get more consistent and faster, every one else in diamond ups their game too.
@@insanospaz " Like every time I start learning a mech or get more consistent and faster, every one else in diamond ups their game too." - so you believe only you should be improving?
I've thought about this a bit as a D2 and how I would describe the ranks to a new player. I think plat is where players start to learn how to control their car. They have a feel for the basic controls and start to feel comfortable going for aerials, but there are so many whiffs because the mechs aren't there. Diamond is where people start to learn how to control the ball. People can hit the ball 80+% of the time, but the touches aren't always the best and people give away posession all the time. D3/C1 are where I started to see people going for a lot of double taps and resets. Defense and rotations are all over the place in diamond. Some people are walls and others don't even bother playing defense and just ball chase.
10:58 "Where was he??" As you're jumping up and down going nowhere helpful has got to be the most diamond level blame game I've ever seen. Actually laughed at that thank you
I have a theory about Rocket League: I think the game intentionally places most players in a specific rank to prevent them from ever feeling truly accomplished. You might find that one game you're performing exceptionally well, but the next game you feel like you're not doing well at all. Have you considered how your teammates or opponents might be influencing this? I believe Rocket League sometimes assigns teammates or opponents of higher or lower skill levels to balance the game and keep players engaged. Without this challenge, players might lose interest, as it’s the game’s difficulty that keeps them playing. So, even if you're a Champion, you might find yourself stuck in Diamond because the game often pairs you with teammates or opponents of varying skill levels to adjust the match outcome.
I've been a D1 for the majority of Season 12/13. Sometimes I get up to D2. You see a lot of plat level game sense or mechanics. Game speed is often faster than the video here, but maybe that's just my play style. You can tell people are trying to slow it down and focus on dribbling. Often times catching the ball in their corner and setting up the dribble. Rotations are almost an afterthought in 2s, although you do catch people breaking them. In 3s you get way more people breaking rotation/chasing... still better than plat though. Kick-offs are nearly 50/50 with how many speed flips I see. I still can't do it but I win the majority of my kick-offs anyway by focusing on the center of the ball. For mechanics, DAR is pretty common and some people do it very well. No flip resets, if you see that it's probably a smurf. Often times players take the ball up the wall and try to air dribble with 1, maybe 2 bounces. There is also a lot of them taking the ball up the opponents back board and trying to pass it back to teammates for a shot. There are some pretty good demos in the opponents goal or when they're rotating back to catch the opponent in the middle of a dribble. Toxicity is much less than plat but if you get a toxic teammate the game is pretty much lost.
As a d3 in 2s and c1 in 3s and as a d2 in 1s, I can attest that rl is broken and I am breaking it. I score double resets in my game, but I have a huge misflipping and overcommiting problem.
Funny thing is those are both my exact ranks in 2s and 3s, except In Season 13/14 of pre Epic I was hovering around 1600 GC in both lists. It's super inconsistent around Diamond/Champ these days.
the biggest breakers are SSLs that create new accounts, goes to bronze, and then proceeds to not allow the opponent to score and won't score either, making the match go on for 20+ minutes before the opponent realizes the SSL are trying really hard to make everything believable
The main problem with diamond players are constant unreal blunders. I play duos. - Double commiting in corners while defending or attacking - Going for big boosts while being last man simply letting the other team score an empty net. - Overall being unable to play as a last man and unwillingness to defend. - Horrible positioning What I would call smaller problems are - Throwing yourself into enemy net in hopes of somehow scoring even though you dont even have an angle or are obviously late - Diamonds often try to defend thier net of the side of their backboard when its not even necessary, missing the ball 90 percent of the time resulting in a free goal. I would also add diamond 3 or low champ is a place where people start to seem like they actually start to care for winning and think about what they are doing while below this rank many people are similiar in skill but are simply not trying to go for a result. The problem i observed that stays in champ is going for big boosts and letting your net open. The saddeset type of goal youll see in champ lol.
Me and my two buds are diamond 3 champ 1 players and have been for the last 8 seasons. None of us work on mechanics and can't do any fancy-schmansy techs, but we rely on good rotation, years of playing together, and solid fundamentals. We hate it, and complain to ourselves, when someone hits any type of trick shot against us. Our competition is wildly inconsistent from game-to-game. From "what are these smurfs doing in Diamond 3" to "how in the world are those three players Diamond".
It's actually the same song and dance as any other rank. Climb from D1-D3 Div3 by being hyper focused on your gameplay, managing teammate's mistakes and capitalizing on the opponent's whiffs. Start your rank up game to see two C3 tournament winner banners in the opposing lobby and you watch as you start losing since they are much faster, more skilled, and have comms. They know they will win so they type in chat GGs a minute before the match ends which starts the confidence killer mental game you never need. In a blind rage you press on in hopes of getting your deserved rank back. After a few bad games you have calmed down by practicing in free play and are ready to get your rank back. You then realize you are back to D1 Div2...
A teammate recently said "I improve enough to keep up with my rank" and I feel that's a good view of most of the Diamond rank (myself included). I'm tempted to make a fresh account to see how things would be starting completely fresh. I watch some of the "road to ssl" vids and it looks like they are playing WAY lower level players than I see and wonder if account age/games played impacts match making.
That and possibly the streaks, they are mostly winning so I wonder if the matchmaking does a good job at throwing more accurately ranked players their way.
I made a brand new account on RL and I felt like I was smurfing through all of my placement matches (except I had a few bad tm8s so I lost 2 matches) I got placed at plat 3 and immediately got up to Diamond 1 which took me around 6 seasons to hit on my main account then I just felt as if i was smurfing through diamond 1, I had 700 points each match and made it to D2, and for 3s I got placed in D1 and its literally easier than plat 1 on my main and i cant get anywhere near diamond on main in 3s :/
To be honest, the first guy is relly good for a d1. The way he moves around the field is really clean, and a lot of the time he has the right ideas, like the touch at 2:16 to setup off the wall with a perfect bounce. If that was done on purpose (and I think it was, from the way he single jumped to hit the ball) is really advanced for a d1. Good job man!
i am d3-c1, most of these players that are "sweaty" are mostly ppl who only grind freeplay and just started playing ranked (i say this by experience, i can do airdribbles and flip resets constantly, and so can my enemies/teammates), i've asked ppl how are they mechy and with decent gamesense and they said they were grinding casuals and freeplay (basically what i do). Also there are a lot of smurfs/gc's from other gamemodes (its really common to find gc tags from 3v3 in 2v2). Also this is in LAN, idk about other regions. Double also zapdash is pretty common, idk if its a hard mech since i find it easy cuz it's just timing but i've heard ppl say its hard so idk
I think diamond lobbies(d1,d2) are where the weekend warriors peak and simply have amazing game sense and reading of the game play. Anything higher than that you have players genuinely trying to grind out the ranks. Unfortunately, it seems like you have plat1-c2 players bounding in and of diamond currently.
I am Champ 2 and all 3 of those diamonds can air dribble as good or better than me. :) I think the issue is that this game has so many ways that you can get good. The result is that you get people who can are clean with a flip reset but can't shadow defend to save their life. I think the biggest thing to make it in champ, is that there is such a mix of play styles and skills. That you just need to get used to/get good at dealing with those things. I cannot do flip resets, but I know when to look for them so that I can try to shut them down or try to cut the play of early if there is a really mechy player in the game.
As a D2 I can confirm that going up each rank in diamond is like a spike in difficulty compared to the gradual increase in gold of plat. Pretty accurate representation Cbell.
honestly this is the closest and current most accurate situation going on in diamond rn. i used to sit at D3 div4 for about 2 years straight till tm8s dragged me down and made me hardstuck. ive gone through hell to try and fight back up to d3 and i still cant get back there. i always get toxic players, trash players or tm8s that are as low as bronze for some reason in a diamond lobby (being carried or just plays as bad as one). ive stated for years that many diamond players actually have 0 clue how to play. their movement and positioning sucks, they chase, overcommit, would rather focus on going for a corner boost or big boost either than the smaller boost pads or actually defending when they are about to shoot to literally not facing the ball, missing,shadowing for no reason,double committing, tryna play solo in a duo or 3s game, own goaling and not going for the ball when they should or the most infuriating, snaking me and hitting tm8s cause they are apparently blind. just as much as there are good things that players do in diamond ranks, 99 percent of them double uo as bad as well. the thing about diamond players not defending or knowing how to defend is the biggest problem because they only know how to attack and barely even barely know how to do that correctly. i cant trust a single tm8 on rocket league anymore because the second im out of goal, my tm8s are throwing in some way, cant save the ball, refuses to rotate, overcommits and causes an issue, to rotating wide, own goaling and basically anything u can think of. i now can play both however ive had to basically stay in defense every match just to ensure we can win a game and because ik i can save the ball from going in and carry the games to a win because i didnt concede goals like the rest of diamond players always do. being deep in defense isnt a problem in 3s or 2s if u actually no what ur doing and can save the ball but no one knows how to play still. it may be more mechanical in diamond compared to any lower ranks where ppl start learning the mechanics but it means nothing if your the reason every match u play is thrown and u blame others for ur actions. you are your own downfall, thats why im on my way already to getting out of diamond 1 and 2 and heading back into d3.
pretty much. I personally rubber band rank in 2v2 like crazy. last week I had a champ promo match and then went on a loss streak and didn't recover until 30 points before plat 3, yesterday bounced back to mid D2. I think that's just the solo q experience though. Skill and playstyle synergy is super varied in such a simple game.
Been hovering between D3 and C1 since ye olde times of 2017/2018. Been in C2 (2s) a handful of times. In my years of diamond experience - the amount of GCs in diamond has increased drastically over these last few years. You never know if they're smurfs, boosted players or the "I only troll in 3s" type of GCs. I mainly play 3s these days and I'm certain this problem is more prevalent in that playlist. In 2s you start seeing these guys a bit later (mby in higher diamond and C1) but in 3s you see a GC tag in every other game in D1/D2
Consistency and defense are the main reason why people are in Diamond. Diamond players other than those two could honestly be c1-c2s at least. I’ve had the problem with champs in my diamond lobbies especially earlier in the season. Now it’s smurfs every so often since we’re later into the season but mostly I’ve been able to make some good movement towards Champ. I’ve been both D3 div 4 and D1 div3 this season because of the inconsistency of diamond players, and cause every so often you get a random plat (they are usually on my team 😂). For myself, I’m inconsistent and pretty mid at defense.
I have around 1.4k hours in rocket and about 600+ hours were spend in diamond from 2020 to mid 2023, being consistently champion now and having spend so much time in diamond rank range one thing became clear to me, how sometimes you have games where people go absolutelly cracked from both sides with games with insane saves, crazy shots, redirects, double taps, flip resets, ceiling shots and on point rotations to where everyone is silver with teammates bumping each other, missing easy shots or missing the ball entirelly, its all about consistency, diamonds is a super super inconsistent rank, even more then plats and below, its just that rank where its all about how well you manage to play that day, its after diamond when everyone starts to have a baseline consistency of how well they play each day .And with so much variations of playstyles and consistency its no wonder diamond is for so many.
I peaked at Diamond 3 in season 10 for a short while and could go into tournaments pretty easily. Diamond tournaments now consistently include a smurf that managed to solo the lobby or a team that was high champ a season or two ago. I can barely maintain diamond 1 now, and that's with a lot of improvement that I can see in my own replays. I have a lot to improve on myself, but it's an absolute cluster when you get a past-champ teammate one game, then the next you get a teammate whose rank is normally plat 2-3. Then some of those games, the champ has movement like a plat, then others the plat has movement like a champ; it's usually adaptable but when it's so over the place it's more difficult to adapt to such drastic play styles. It is truly a bumfuzzling experience.
Diamond is where you get stuck until you actually put in practice to get out of it. It's essentially the last rank you can casually go up and down into by just queuing over and over and never touching practice or freeplay. Id say this vid got some very good diamond games. They can get a whole lot worse than that.
I am again c1/d3 this season and it really depends on the lobby, i play with and friend and were are more of gamesense type of players but the mechs from the opponets are somtimes so random, a few reset mustys on you the next one is a double tab master and the other times there are people that can't hit an open net. A huge problem are also the smurf i am impressed that they havn't got an smurf in there lobby, I get 6/10 times a guy who is plat 1 ranked with an normal c1 d3 (they try to balance the mmr) tm8 which double flip resets and and has the greatest mechanics that i have ever seen (I rank in europe btw). I am also impressed that every one used air roll, even the d1 and that most of the time consistent, so I have doubts that they were actully low diamond. Sorry for my english if i have some spelling mistakes :)
The problem is, all games in all three (d1, d2, d3) can be as slow as a plat 2 match, or as fast as a champ 1 match. I've been in all three ranks recently, and they are all over the place. But mostly filled with deranked champs and even grand champs.
Im up and down between D1 and D2. I play duos with 1 friend only. Sometimes we lose 5 in a row against people who hit 3 flip reset double taps from the corner in a game, then we win 4 games in a row against people who cant fast aerial and whiff everything😅
I'm diamond 2 div 2 and If I solo que it always feels like I have to carry the whole game and when I make one mistake my teammate insults me or ragequits for no reason. The only times I don't get carried is when a person has the same playstyle as me or it's a GC - SSL smurf.
I’ve been hard stuck in Diamond 1-3, for the last 4 years. This year specifically though Diamond is all over the place. Especially solo queuing for whatever reason this year everytime I solo queue I have the worst experience. But when I play with someone I know so climb the ranks.
A solo queue rank and a team rank would be more honest. IMO The best way to explain diamond is that we are all struggling with consistency at this time. One day I can be hitting musty flicks and air dribbles and the next day I'm missing the ball a lot. Another thing that diamonds deal with is, people who play with their higher ranked friends. They aren't that good of diamonds, and now they're playing with a diamond not their higher ranked friend. I'm missing the double tap and they don't know where to be. But if I'm playing with a diamond who got there solo queuing like I did, he knows where to be and the game feels faster because we're all actually at the same pace. That being said, we would have a more honest definitive ranking system only in a solo queue system, in my opinion. Then teams could be for team queuing and more of an honest team rank.
I’ve been d1 for the past couple of seasons, always getting to the point of being d2 but get teammates that belong in plat sometimes. I know I can ball chase sometimes but, this season I can’t even get into d1 again because of the mmr system. I do agree the matches can go from slow to sweaty really easily.
This video covered 40% of actual diamond lobbies and gameplay as well as game speed. I am d3 div2 and tbh, its crazy to see that previous seasons platinum lobbies were crazy at that moment. Nowadays I cannot tell the difference between a c1 and a d3 players.
It's because the definition of the ranks haven't changed. But people have gotten better at the game. Bronze- You're either really new, young, old, or you just dont care. Silver- You understand the game a little but still bad. Gold- You know how to play the game now but you're not good. You are just now trying to incoperate aerials into your plays. Platinum- You know how to do a lot of stuff but you cant actually do it 99% of the time. Diamond- You can do stuff now, but you aren't consistent. Can make some crazy plays happen but you also f the play up a lot. Champ- You are more consistent and faster. Can do more advanced stuff but still not consistent. Grand Champ+ - You are cracked at the game.
I’ve started to see progress in my mechs and understanding of the game as I picked the game up again recently, and this is basically exactly what Diamond looks like, it’s literally the most inconsistent rank you’ll ever see
I've been diamond for years. The change from this year to last year was insane. I don't have mechs but game Sense and used to be diamond 3. All of a sudden I'm having ceiling shots on me and very fast games but the next game it feels like plat players. Most of the time I'll ask and most mech players say they were C2 or 3 last season
Diamond is the most confusing and annoying rank for sure. Some games people are flip resetting like squishy and some cant hit the ball on the easiest shots. Its hard to know what to expect and predict in games like that.
This is an accurate representation of gold-diamond as well. Especially the 1v1 at the end. The lower the rank, the better the players get. When I fell from diamond down to gold my opponents got better and better and better. Now plat 1 feels like diamond 3 did.
Diamond is a mix of the following people: - queued up for a game and then went to make dinner (most common) - people hunting for youtube highlight clips - duos who constantly double-commit the ball - teammates who keep passing the ball to the opponents - teammates who hog all the boost When a game starts and I see a teammate in the kickoff position, my first consideration is "Are they going to be AFK?"
it’s the same thing in platinum and as well comparing party queue to normal is insane. Also, I’m more saves Heavy person and people are always super surprised when I save something hard
I have almost 1000 hours now and I started around 2018, yet i'm still hard stuck at D1! I feel like it's a pretty accurate depiction. I think some lower mech players can have great game sense and shine in that aspect, whereas I have practiced a ton on mechs but it took me about 700 hours to realize ball chasing and going for crazy fancy shots wasn't helping my rank. Someday Champion will come, or even D2!!!
I must say that it is very frustrating to see that people who are diamonds get in videos like that and lie about what diamond games are, when you are diamond, the games are mostly slow, the guy that is in diamond 2 in the video doesn't seem to know what he's talking about, I've been diamond for over 6 months and this guy clearly doesn't know what being diamond is. Then for the guy that's in diamond 3, he says that there are no smurfs, though if you find yourself a teammate and do 2s with him, there is a 90% chance you'll go against a guy that has 700-750 elo or even lower accompanied with a guy that has 1000-1050 elo, smurfs are a real problem in diamond games. + all of them act like diamond is fast but literally everyone in diamond games do bad aerials, ballchase and will start getting toxic at you although they made the mistake and not you, additionally I highly believe that all of them got in lucky games that do not represent most of diamond games.
Im jumping between d3-c2 this season and some c2 games felt like d3 and the other way around. Most people in d3 are prior champs and are either fast mechanical players or gamesense based slower players. Im getting called out as Smurf a lot in d3 and c1(just barely couldn’t reach gc last season) bc people just don’t get that solo queuing messes with ur rank a lot. I lose like every 3rd match bc of 1-2 major whiffs from mates in situations where i don’t even see it coming and can’t react in time(doesnt matter Im the fastest in the lobby every time). So to sum it up d3 is the champ 1-2 graveyard and everyone is toxic as hell and think they r zen. Cheers
Me and my buddy have been diamond 3/champ 1 for the longest time now. The inconsistency is insane. We’ll win and rank up into champ, then verse 2 extremely good teams (usually always good matches within 1 point) then if we lose and go back down to diamond we end up against people who seem like they don’t belong there at all and end up getting a FF 2 minutes into the match. Also, the problem I find with diamond is there’s a lot of people on smurfs/alt accounts carrying their friend (the friend isn’t even “bad” either just not as consistent). These people aren’t hitting triple flip resets, but they’re so consistent that it’s pretty easy to tell they aren’t a diamond 3/champ 1. Then I look at their rocket league tracker and see they have 150 wins. This happens at least once or twice every time I play for about an hour and a half with my friend.
As someone who mostly starts the season in D3 and from mid to end season mostly sits at C1. The games feel really inconsistent, like sometimes you have someone in the game that can barely hit the ball in the right direction and other times u have people flip resetting left and right like it is as natural for them as breathing. This makes the games just feel really shitty and (at least for me) makes it difficult to build up consistency with mechanics while playing and for that reason, I too am one of the people who sometimes carries hard and other times needs to be carried hard (and everything in between those two extremes). I think the game needs a hard reset for the ranks and also some type of mechanic to make smurfing/boosting harder. Tho I don't know what system would be the best for it. Maybe something similar to CS's Prime Matchmaking? That u can verify your Rocket League account with your Phone number or buy a "premium" account wich then lets u search for an extra matchmaking list.. with the option to also search for the "non-premium" list? or maybe even both, need to verify with a phone number AND buying the "premium" account? Would that be something the RL community would be ok with? tho that should also give all the people who bought RL trough Steam an automatic "premium" account... because u know, they already bought the game once...
Uh yeah this is accurate. Look sometimes I have a tm8 who will drive into net on defense and then power slide turn around like he’s a gold. Then sometimes I watch a guy going for resets and double taps. It is such a mess here. I’ve played games that were like all of the speeds of the ones here. You can 100% be a champ stuck in diamond right now. I’ve seen countless numbers of them.
I solo queue a lot and I will range from D1 to high D3 in any given season. In my opinion there is no difference in skill between those 3 ranks. Sometime you get a tm8 that is solid and knows how to rotate, sometime you get put up against a team that is above average, other times you get put up against a team is way below average. I find myself in a lot of cases having to play somewhat heavy on the Defense because I can't rely on my tm8 to be in net or center or.... But I do know the key to winning when solo queuing in 2s is to quickly adjust your playstyle to cover off your tm8s weak spots. i.e. if you have a ball chaser as a tm8 be a little more tentative and wait for plays to be created by his chasing. On the flip side if you have a tm8 that is strong and rotates well and plays positionally well you can start to make passing plays and trust that they will be where they need to be.
Honestly, from only those games it's hard to realize the truth about disparity in diamond. First game looked like a top gold game, second one could be anywhere from plat 2 to d2, the d3 game looked regular, not too crazy, d1 game in my eyes. Surprisingly, the players on their own in freeplay are way better than the game they played. But I've played top plat games way crazier than any of these games and d2 games way worse than any of them too... I've deranked to plat 2 recently and got into lot of games with players able to score resets, passing plays and double taps. Went back to d1 and the games got much easier. I'm talking solo queue. Teaming up (usually I play with former champs hard stuck in diamond), the level is globally higher. But everything you said is true. Inconsistency is the main issue in diamond, people are getting better and are getting greedier (I know I am). At some point it feels like the more you think you improve, the worse you play :)
I peaked 2 seasons ago at C1d4 in 2s. Since my "fall from grace", I've hardly been able to get back to D3. I'm a much better player now, but I understand that the rest of the community is improving too. That said, the ranking system is absolutely useless once you reach about D2. I think most players are D1 because most don't find much gameplay improvement after reaching high Plat, either because they hit a skill ceiling or a lack of interest, which... there was a time where if you could make it to P3, you were a decent player. Now, Plat feels like Gold. Diamond and Champ have so much variance in skill (up to at least C3) that it all really feels like the same rank. And the amount of high-level players being pushed down from high Champ or GC make moving up... a nearly insurmountable task unless you have someone to run with. And honestly, even if you have a solid teammate, you'll end up running into a team of "Diamond" C2s every other match. It feels like every game, either you're playing a smurf, or you are the smurf. The D1 gameplay is exactly how Minkz described it; it's all over the place. Because, again, you have former borderline-D3 players (and some Champs) with the skill and knowledge to be higher ranked playing against, essentially, Plats with some mechanics and *okay* game sense. You get ball chasers, and you get "goalies". You get solid double-tap goals, and you get both teams whiffing the ball for 10 seconds. Some games are meticulously slow, and some games are track meets. It's hard to get a bead on where the competition is. This basically lasts until you're like 2 divs up in D3. Then, you basically need C3 skill or better in order to rank up. It's like there's a consistent increase in the non-existent difficulty setting up until high D2. Then it becomes matches against RNG. There are so many players hardstuck in Diamond who are way too skilled to be there. And a lot of lower Diamonds who still don't have a handle on what it really means to play Rocket League. It's the new melting pot, the way P3 was a couple years ago. I do a lot of casual matches now, and my MMR fluctuates between 1300 and 1450. I literally play Golds, Plats, Diamonds, Champs, GCs, and I've even met a couple SSLs in cas. All in that 150 MMR range. I like it for the experience I get playing higher-level players, but there is something fundamentally wrong with that spread. What casual looks like in that MMR range is an example of this game's broken rank system. Yes, I know. Casual MMR doesn't affect "rank", but you still have to win to move up and lose to move down. How can there be so many players in this range with such varying ranks? Even if it mixed up at the beginning of a season, the better players should just move up and hang around the higher numbers, while those still learning play against others near their skill level. I'll finish my rant here. But yeah, Diamond has become a barrier in RL. It seems like every player with a semblance of skill ends up hanging out here. Below are those coming to terms with "feeling" the game. Above are those with skill worthy of at least semi-pro competition (in RLCS 1, the pros looked like today's entry-level Diamonds. That says a lot).
CBell are we ever going to see another ranked attacker/defenders video? I love the RTSSL series you’re doing. And would really like to see you sprinkle in some ranked attackers videos
Yea this video is accurate. Some games are slow, some are fast and you’re obviously playing players more skilled than you. I am almost champ but I don’t have a lotta hope that I’ll make it all the way due to the inconsistency of the lobbies
As someone who took a years break and dropped about 400 mmr to go to diamond, i found it a lot harder to get out of that area than i have with champ 1. Champ feels consistent and i can expect things so much better because the players all have similar skill levels in mechanics and positioning, but diamond had such a huge variety of skill that I could be playing amazingly and the opponents were just gods hitting flip reset double taps and my team were missing a lot of aerials and could not defend a dribble. It was an experience to be sure and the distribution of skill within the ranks was insane.
the thing is...most diamonds are sweaty champs (like myself) that keep getting gatekeeped back down to diamond... can hit crazy clips but my wifi is dog so I can't consistently climb with lag spikes every 20-30 seconds. the rest of diamonds are plats that either got carried up there by their friends (like my friends) or are just good enough at a specific thing (positioning, boost control, defense, etc.) that they got out of plat. Diamond truly is the massive pit that funnels those that are just becoming decent and those that aren't consistent enough to be solid champ or higher.
It’s amazing how the level of play at these ranks has changed over time. I haven’t played in almost 2 years but I was always somewhere between D1 and low C1. Back then, D2 and D3 players were great at defense and aerials, but lacking in pretty much all other mechanics. The vast majority wouldn’t even dream of hitting flip resets or double touches. Games were low scoring and only players that were good on both sides of the ball could rank up. Wild to see that the opposite is true now
Honestly is pretty accurate as I can vouche for being in D2 for this whole season. I’m also not the most consistant, but can also play good/mechy and have really off games.
i can't get out of diamond 3, i've been C1 a couple of times and it's a pain fr, there is ppl hittind crazy aerial shots and mechanics and others that miss every shots
It's also hard because you don't see consistency in your opponents to the point where you learn to defend against higher level mechanics. You might run into higher level mechs 1/4 of the time and get dusted each time, but it doesn't happen frequently enough to learn from.
I’m a former champ player who has been stuck in low diamond for multiple seasons now. I feel like I’ve only gotten better at the game but my teammates are a COMPLETE crap shoot. I either get a teammate who is insane (only on offense of course) or I get a teammate who wants to play from the passenger seat of my car because they won’t let me hit the ball or keep possession. Because of this I now live in diamond 2 with the game sense of a champ player but my teammates are normally inflated plat players who struggle to hit aerials and have absolutely no idea how to rotate. 😅 Send help. I’d rather stay diamond with teammates who belong there than be teetering on champ with teammates who are clearly plat players.
what i have noticed or more like witnessed, when i was still d3 last season but got to c1 like 5 times and instantly fell off, is that the reason i didn’t win in d3 every time was that the speed of play was always diffrent. now im in c2 and its imo a lot easier to rank up because the speed of play stays the same.
I have been Diamond for as long as I can remember other than the beginning of rocket league. I mainly stay in d2 where it’s all over the place. I quit 2’s for a bit and started my 1’s journey. My placement was plat3. As a rocket league player who has like 7/10 mechs and 8/10 game sense, and who has been in Diamond for an eternity, I can vouch that it is messed up! My first 4 matches in ranked were at least d1, keep in mind I didn’t start ranking till the middle of the season, my last 6 matches went strait to gc and champ. As I gone through d1 I encountered 1 champ, just 1. But my last 6 matches were tough but they felt like my level. I lost about 3 matches. It’s been a journey but I have decided to quit ranking until the ranks are fixed. I personally recommend players that are in low ranks to be challenged with the rank higher than them, and if they win, they get that rank, and if they lose they keep quit. As respectfully as can be, most players are bad, and some people are good. I hope that I can get a chance to show my skill to prove I deserve better than Diamond, but that’s all just a luck based request. My user is Phazist.
Couple seasons ago I hit my peak rank c3, then dropped to c1 the next season. I kept dropping and dropping each season, and last two seasons I was diamond for most of the time. Although I always manage grind back my way to c1, c2 was hard to reach. I was only able to get c2 at the end of some seasons. However, this season I finally was able to get back to my original rank c3.
the reason why so many are diamond is because its already hard/challenging enough to be dedicated enough to get thru the elo hell that is diamond without getting tilted or burned out and right after u get done with that ur staring down the champ elo hell which is argueably worse espcially at c3.. and then u still gotta deal with grand champ to get SSL like damn bro diamond is just the worst place to be in ur grind, its like an unsurmountable mountain... Mainly because of the community tho. Squishy went undefeated on his road to grand champ series and still needed 60 games to get out of diamond. And thats with 100% winrate imagine a realistic 60-65% winrate above average player probably needing 100+ games to get thru the rank which is an insane time commitment especially when ur teammates are actively afk at the start of most games, leaving, bumping you, owngoaling, and spamming what a save because diamond's community is just terrible... imo Its very hard pretty much impossible to actually commit to this grind and see it all the way thru without getting burned out or tilted before finishing those 100+ games required to get thru the rank and onto "better" lobbies Also its just tilting to play freeplay for tons of hours and get way better than the people of ur rank and then have to carry ur way out thru hundreds of games in order to get to where u really deserve, its why a lot of freestylers are diamond/champ despite having SSL mechanics
my duo partner and I have been sitting top diamond / bottom of champ for about a year now, and we don't have nearly the mechanics of some of the players you showed here. just consistent fundamentals. this looks a lot like what we see every game, except half the time one of our opponents is capable of flip resetting and doing insane air dribbles if they are allowed to have control of the ball.
It makes sense that Diamond has the most players. Here's why: 1) It's quite easy to reach once you've learned how to actually hit the ball with some decent power, but Champ is when people really start to figure out how to position, shoot, etc. 2) The rank is filled with braindead 'super' mechy players who throw half of their games, because they overcommit or send the ball straight into the opponents' arms. 3) The rank is also filled with smart players who enjoy stuff like teamplays, but are too slow to fix a mistake they've made which ultimately leads to a goal. 4) This rank is usually when people stop playing (or caring for) the game, as getting into Champ and higher requires a more serious attitude towards learning actual good game sense and mechanics. And how do we fix this 'problem'? First of all, make the mmr gaps between the divisions and ranks much bigger, just like GC1 to GC2 for example. Secondly, fix the smurf issue: create a 'Smurfing' report option, and automatically send a replay of a game to moderators when a player that has much less mmr than the rest of the lobby gets MVP with a point gap of at least, say, 300 points. The moderators will then be able to review the game and quickly see if the much lower ranked player is just peaking or actually a much higher ranked player on a smurf account.
@@muskratgg Well the video clearly states most players are in diamond. Not sure where you got your numbers from, but I guess similar reasons apply to why so many people are in platinum as well.
@@kevinderoo3880 While that is what the video states, the data is inherently wrong due to it's source: RLTracker. CBell was sent the official distribution data from the developers that shows just over 21% of players in diamond and 32% in plat (the peak of the bell curve). But CBell is actively deleting comments that point out this large gap in information.
As a D2 lvl player, I can say that play fluctuates and players are all over the place in terms of skill. A game in D1 can feel plat lvl while ur next game is champ lvl. It's volitile for sure, and solo queuing is ranked suicide. Also, almost every player in diamond can speed flip and make basic air plays now. In my experience, diamond players play way to selfish and tend not to rotate due to a lack of trust in others.
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why does it say this comment was pinned multiple hours ago if the video only came out a couple of minutes ago?
9 hours ago? but the video came out 23 minutes ago
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@@OCE-Winter._RL He can pre-post it I believe. Basically it's on his TH-cam page and he can interact with it but nobody else can see it yet.
Been diamond 1 for one and half year 💀 i need some help
I've dropped from c2 to d2 and gone back up like 5 times. There are players who should be like c3 and there are players who should be in plat respectfully. Diamond is a mess rn
Funny you say this cos I was c2 earlier this season, at my relative peak. Now I'm trying to cling onto d3 for the life of me as I either have a bad game, match up with bad tm8s, or get triple flip reset mustyd on
yeah, I am climbing back to c2 after a mix of those as well (got down to diamond 3 after a ranked session), c2 is an abomination. Ex gc's left and right, some games are easy, some games are RLCS level. It's not fun.@@alecs9079
Literally I’m c2 and I feel the same way, I got a gc1 in one game and in another I got a kid who had 30 hours 😂
Yeah this is why I stopped playing
Honestly, this feels like a much more accurate statement of where diamond is at. I’ve been up as high as C1 and then up and down between D3 and D2 and then had an extremely bad run all the way down to D1. I think probably the most frustrating part is the absolutely crazy inconsistency with both your teammates and your opponents. You can have a D3 game that like what we saw on the video at D1. you can be in D1 and see crazy mechanics. This type of inconsistency makes it extremely difficult to institute a game plan that consistently works for each game.
As someone who's been stuck in diamond 3 for the past couple months (usually Champ 1), inconsistency is the name of the game for high diamond. Every single person in diamond has good mechanics OR good gamesense OR good mental. You can have someone hitting flicks and resets but cuts every rotation or votes to FF/flames people at the three minute mark. You can also have someone like me, who can't fast kickoff, fast aerial, wavedash, etc. and has to compensate for that with good positioning, knowing when to challenge and when to back off, etc.
Lots of diamond games also have one monumental whiff that gives up a goal, meaning the games can feel a bit random. You can have a game that feels better than most of my Champ 1 games, with really good saves and shots from both sides, but then someone completely whiffs on a ground ball and it trickles into the net for a 0-1 loss. I refuse to comment on how often I'm the one who whiffs.
Literally in the same boat this is 100% accurate
My son is also in the same boat and feel this is exactly his experience. He's not mechanically good as he just wants to play for fun but he loves tactics and has watched a few videos on them and lands up continually struggling to compensate for people who have no idea, like, overcommit with a shot and give the ball away to make a 2v1 defence situation.
@@greatbriton8425 tell him to keep at it he's young! He can be the next zen or Daniel. As for me I'm pushing 30 I'm probably just a diamond for life lol.
@@malnkylee9721 That's very sweet of you :) He's more into developing a career actually (in video editing probably).
As someone who was C1 for 2 seasons, and peaked at C2 being stuck now in D3 I cannot agree more. I am not super mechanical either, my highlight are my passes, and that can be hard with the range of players in D3 (some hitting resets, and some who can barely Ariel). I have also seen the most amount of throwers this season than any other.
10:50 Champ goal explosion, this sums up Diamond 3💀
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Doesn’t really mean a whole lot though, get loads of gc tags in champ, it’s just their peak I was gc1 but now I bounce between c2 and c3
ive seen gc's in d3 @@josh0147
yeah soo many washed champs with that same explo are in even d2
I was a Champ before the "big reset" of season 11. Now I'm stuck D2 and D3 depending on the day. I'm one of those people with champ rewards in diamond.
I climbed from D1 to D3 in one night. Then fell back to D2 Division 1 the next night.
Diamond is the epitome of inconsistency in RL. You’ll see plat mistakes mixed with champ highlights and often by the same players lmao
I'm guilty of that as well
Same omg
nahnah, you'll meet gold mistakes and you will see GC highlight with cross map dribbles and double flip resets..
diamond is the epitome of "boosted players to bad to be boosted higher, diamond inconsistency, washed champs, hardstuck should've been champs and gc's that wants an ego boost".. the latter one being a pretty standard 2/10 games lately.
@TheShaman572 I’m literally did THE EXACT same thing as you I went from d1 to d3 then back down to d2 div 1 mostly because of my tm8 and Smurfs 😢
I can hit/save like a champ 1 min then 10 seconds later wiff like a bronze 😂😂😂
There’s a lot of boosters in diamond that are boosting people up to get the champ rewards which might be part of the problem. Once they get the rewards and start coming back down the ranks it ends up a mess. Half of the people in diamond probably don’t play that much with the last few seasons being so bad. Almost every team that you come across that is partied up has a Smurf carrying. The amount of golds and low plats that dominate the lobbies in 3s is ridiculous and they have team mates that are all kitted out in champ gear with the tournament title that can’t even hit the ball unless it’s into their own net. I keep getting the champs on my team while the other team gets the s13 gold tournament winner that is somehow already in diamond
Same with chanp
very accurate
Makes no sense does it
tournament ranking has nothing to do with comp ranking, u can be gc tournament winner and be a champ 2 in comp, same with gold tournament winner, where u can be higher or lower ranked in comp
my friend has carried me to diamond 3 but he has never been higher than champ 1 div 2 but I respectfully deserve plat 2
In the last 5 months, I have gone through all of diamond and following are my experiences:
Diamond 1 allows you to get wayyyy better at aerials because not everybody is trying to hit the ball all at once as in plat3. I also think this is the rank where you spend the most time in diamond. You either get stuck and bounce between d1 and plat3, or you learn how to press through, and proceed to d2, d3 and into champ.
Diamond 2 is a big skill jump from diamond 1. This is where most basic mechanics get consistent, and you start learning more advanced mechs. You will have a wide variety of people, from those who can barely half flip and just position very well, to those who can hit reset musty doubles but have no idea how to rotate or what to do if you challenge them early in the air.
Diamond 3 is very interesting. Div 1 and 2, is about the same as d2, just more consistent. As soon as you hit div3, 90-95% of players are either people who have been carried to champ for the rewards and are now falling down, washed champs from several seasons ago, or actual champs that are just stuck down in d3 because the rank is so saturated with champs, you basically have to get a skill level of high c1 in order to get through it into champ. This last section makes up probably 50-60% of upper d3.
I think the best explanation for this is that the entire ranked ladder has basically been shifted half a rank. C1 has been shifted to high d3 to low c1, d3 has been shifted to low d3 and high d2, d2 has been shifted to low d2 and high d1, and d1 has been shifted to low d1 and high plat3. This makes it harder to rank up as in order to rank up, you have to get through over half of what she skill should be/used to be. As to why this happened, I have no idea.
Anyway, that's just my take on the situation, good luck to any of you trying to get through :)
Perfect explanation, I was trying to explain this to my friend the other day
Very accurate
I would go as far as to say it’s happened for most ranks up to C3. The past few seasons have been so terrible even in C1-C3. You never know if it’s going to be a normal champ game or some mechanical GC that’s just washed down or is living in champ. There’s also so many GV titles now in ranked that it just is normal at this point.
@@KeithStoneYeah it’s so insane that i’m getting gc titles in my d3 games aswell
As a c1, that was kinda carried to champ a while ago with a duo but then we kinda stopped talking to each other, matter is back then I was going against people I could relatively go against while still being a diamond. Now this season I decided to play soloq ranked for the first time and I was getting either c2s or plat3s in my diamond matches. Now in champ the skill Diff between now and when that huge rank change that happened sometime ago, is much different.
Diamond is such a weird rank. You get a lot of displaced champs who got fucked by the rank reset, smurfs(Its both an excuse and not an excuse) and players that polarise each other, rlly badly.
There is no rank resets any longer. The whole placement matches at the start of each season are superficial. Your MMR is the exact same in the background and goes up and down the exact same.
Wait srsly? Oh thank goooood now I don't have to cry when getting clipped by gcs
Champ is even worse. I was c3 div 4 and now I'm c2 div 2
I'm a D3/C1 player right now in 2s. There's a pretty high variability in what people are capable of game to game. I see it in both myself and the other players in the game. Some games will have people casually hitting flip resets. Other games have players that can't seem to clear the ball off the backboard. Sometimes games start off with an amazing opponent and then I win. Sometimes I start out dominating and then lose. Overall, the average game is average. My rank is fairly stable (trending slowly upward over months). I usually go pretty even, maybe up or down a few games in a session. Sometimes I go down really badly, but then I get it back without much trouble.
I'd totally agree that consistency (or lack thereof) defines diamond pretty well. As you observed, these guys all kind of have some advanced mechs in their pockets. The diamond experience is one of constantly limit testing and pushing yourself. However, unlike a GC+ level player who probably just does a less ideal version of a mechanic when limit testing, diamonds fail hard during limit testing as we're still in the pass/fail state of mastery for many mechanics.
I imagine I could probably rank up a bit more in the short term by playing very reserved and safe, but I'm not sure if that really serves me in the long run. Obviously I should always strive to play smarter and safer, but you also have to try to stretch sometimes too.
Also that's an interesting observation that the player distribution is so skewed toward diamond.
You're a diamond/c1 player who's gunning for the pro scene? Bubble players are those that are on the edge of RLCS / near pro level but not signed..
@@muskratggnah just meant I’m straddling those ranks. But that’s wrong/misleading so I’ll edit 👍
@@keipra champ is just diamond as you describe it, but a bit more consistent and depending on if your teammates fit to you or nah. It's definetly more fun tho than diamond.
The problem with Diamond is that you've got some people with 50s like Fireburner and mechanics like Little Timmy and other guys with Firstkiller mechanics but the gamesense of a literal rock
when you learn how to actually defend like i do in diamond, u can counter freestylers and lredoct redirections and clear it with lettle effort. ppl in diamond arnt patient so they tend to get in the way of clearing it but when they arnt, its quite easy. if i cant clear, ill block it for the tm8s or to counter, leave it and rotate back or back up preparing for a better counter. the main pain is cowards who have to demo to get goals. they know ur too good in defense so they go for bumps and demos just to be able to get goals another example of wannabes with no skill who are scared of u as a player as they know that u could probally solo them as u no what ur doing. ive actually solod from a 3 down match and won because ik how to counter groups of people solo on games, i learned how to do so. im better as a solo anyway.
Diamond is so diverse lol, I'm diamond one and one game you can be playing one of the sweatiest matches of your career versus people who deserve to be champ and the game ends up going 4 minutes into overtime, and then the next game is slow as molasses and you're playing with kids who belong in plat 2, it really sucks because you just never know what to expect.
Most people quit at diamond bc they get bored but I stayed
Same!
I never quit but im now plat 1 because i stopped trying. Playing to win these days is completely useless. Maybe i am seeing myself out.
I peaked c1d3 and destroyed my controller so i quit
I quitted after i reached c1 in 2s
I quit at chanp
The real question is… how many are currently active?
What are you doing here?
uuugggghhh
those stats are literally for this current season... so yes active within the last 3 months. everyone who got to the 10 diamond wins is apart of it
RL tracker only tracks players who have been looked up before on the site. You can look up Psyonix rank distributions shortly after each season. Last season champ and above was only about 6% of the players, Diamond made up 21% of the 2s player base.
Diamonds when people start to care so that's why there's more of them than ever that show up on RL Tracker. They wanna see how they stack up. Champs have almost certainly looked themselves up or been looked up by a curious Diamond player. I doubt there's a GC or above who hasn't been tagged on there. On their distribution it also shows ~20% of players in champ or above, which is inconsistent with Psyonix.
Using both of those statements, Diamond and above was top 27% from Psyonix's official distribution, but around 55% of people on RL tracker. This means theres a higher density of RL tracker players in high ranks, High ranks play more, have a higher chance of being on RL tracker, and they're more active. It fades out a lot of the lower ranks who:
a) don't know what RL Tracker is or care enough
b) haven't been looked up either out of curiosity,, by luck or because they're unremarkable
This 35% number represents 35% of the "truer" fans of Rocket League who have also played in the last few seasons, inactives wouldn't count. When you think that diamonds are 21 of that top 27 percent of players from the Psyonix distribution, its kind of sad to say, but they're the bottom 78 percent or so of the "decent or above" player base. It sounds even more cramped when put that way, but many people would agree.
every single one is still active its from this season placements
"'I've touched my controller more than my wife" Now that's a true RL player right there xd
nah thats just the average gamer.
A real rl player does not have a wife
What is a wife?
@@ramongarcia8565 A new bundle coming next season!
Diamond started to become a hangout place for plats and champions. Im stuck in d2 jumping between d1 and d3 and its the most annoying experience ever because only 1/5 of my games looks like diamonds
last week i was d3 and a little in champ this week im d2 div 2. its been like this all season, i go up then i go down and repeat. I have 7 champ wins and i need 3 more for the rewards lol. i wont ever use it if i got it but still 😂
@@SimplyTiffany2009yeah the amount of people i've seen with champion s13 tournament winner is insane and also the other spectrum s13 plat/gold winner
every rank is like this. maybe excluding gc3 ssl because it’s bad perfection at that point. some games feel slower then others they feel like ur tm8 belongs 3 ranks down thats just how gaming is. i’m about to hit gc2 and i still get games like this. but accusing a smurf bc u lost a game or it felt faster etc is not going to help you rank up. look at the reply look at what you could have done differently if you truly think it was check the mmr do some research on the supposed smurf and report the player
I dropped from c2 to d3 in one night,
@@davidlaforet-sj6gl where did i say i accused someone of smurfing? You also won't understand what i said in the comment if you're not in diamond/champion rank and also i didn't ask for advice on ranking up as i don't even play rocket league anymore lol
The most toxic ranks I feel like are starting to become gold and plat I recently got out of gold into plat and through all the matches there was always a little toxicity through the opponent when they started to loss
yea when i play with my little brother in gold im surprised how toxic those kids are lmaooo diamond is heaven compared to them
Yes and it’s really frustrating too since all it takes is one little mistake and they either leave the match, grief or type a whole toxic essay in chat
Diamond lobbies are either champs who have been stuck with bad teammates or plats carried up that just can’t keep up
Yea
Or diamonds
It's literally champ level players having to carry plats.
man im a gold that got carried to diamond one then fell all the way to plat 2
@@palomao8949this is such cope😂
As a Diamond 1 player, games are split between all solo queuers which are fun games and a "grab a gold" games where a champ crashes our match in a party with a trash rank & clips all over us with flip resets, speed kickoffs etc bc D1 haven't got the mecanics nailed down yet.
Going off of the rocket league tracker stats for this information is invalid because rocket league tracker only checks accounts that actually check their rank on the website. According to the actual Psyonix provided stats on the rocket league subreddit, as of last season, 21.33% of the player-base is diamond. 32.74% of the player-base is in platinum, the most populated rank set in ranked doubles. 28.58% of the player-base is in gold. Considering that bronze does not exist, and that these are the middle 3 rank sets, this is not surprising, there isn't a problem here. That's just what is normal for the mid range ranks in all competitive games.
Comparing rocket league to valorant, Iron is the same as rocket league's bronze, which is underpopulated. Bronze in valorant is comparable to rocket league's silver, but valorant's bronze is more populated than rocket league's silver, but it has been recovering population as of recently, with about 9.43% of the player-base in it as of last season. Valorant's silver is comparable to rocket league's gold, but valorant seems to have the highest concentration of players here whereas rocket league has the highest concentration of players in platinum. Valorant's gold is comparable to rocket league's platinum, but gold in valorant has a lower concentration than silver, and it's the opposite in rocket league. Valorant's platinum is comparable to rocket league's diamond, which is where a large fall off of player population concentration happens, and it's very similar in rocket league as you go into diamond 2 and diamond 3. Valorant's diamond is essentially our champ, where the largest fall of player concentration happens. Ascendant is grand champ, immortal is supersonic legend, and radiant is top 100.
Smurfing is a problem in all competitive games, not just rocket league, and it will unfortunately always be a problem, but it is not as common as people say it is. There isn't going to be a smurf every other game in any rank, and people who say there is are coping about not being at the rank they think they deserve. After watching this video, I took 20 completely random replays from this season at diamond 1 to diamond 3 and there was a total of 3 smurf accounts across all of the replays. 2 of them were in one game on the same team playing together, and the other was carrying a friend to what I can only assume to be champ 1 and rewards as it is nearly the end of the season.
Diamond is not the most populated rank, it never has been, and it only displays that on rocket league tracker. If there are 2 million players in diamond at 21.33% of the player-base, platinum must have at least 3 million. But those numbers are also wrong, as other estimates show that rocket league averages nearly 20 million active monthly players, meaning diamond would be at under 10% of the population with under 2 million players. That is why using the rocket league tracker website for these numbers is incredibly invalid, so next time someone creates one of these videos, I hope they use the actual psyonix provided stats on the subreddit.
I'm aiko, I'm a supersonic legend rocket league player, and thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
As an edit, I also want to point out that as gc1 contains 1.5% of the players, and according to rl tracker its at 81k players, 1.5% of 5.4 million is 81k. therefore nearly 75% of the player-base is not accounted for based on rl trackers own numbers.
jesus christ thank you for the essay
I wholeheartedly concur with the assertions laid forth within this thesis
I ain’t reading all that lol
Get his ass lumi my goat
alr im pulling up ur pants now
Cbell you should make a video on how a majority of players playstyles has transitioned to being focusing solely on mechanics and very little on game sense. It’s been happening more and more the past couple of seasons
It's pretty simple. They don't care. A giant Corporation bought the game and has done absolutely nothing to adjust the MMR structure since. In the first thing they did was make it so you can't leave casual games, essentially making it ranked. What is the difference? You have an MMR in casual you just can't see it. And the algorithm for casual might be worse than the algorithm for ranked, constantly in lobbies with a plat and a GC in the same game. Somebody tell epic we would be willing to wait another minute for a good game, fix the goddamn algorithm.
I am d2 and got put in casual ones with sun_rl who is a season 4 ssl tournament winner
What is bro wafflin about
They definitely have made very targetted changes to the MMR structure in the last 3 seasons. Just not in the direction that makes plats happy lol
I’m a gold player and once got put in a game with a champ tourney winner
Yeah, casual is absolutely broken. I'm a diamond 2 and somehow I got matched against a SSL tournament winner in casual, it's just ridiculous how dumb it is
I hit c1 a year ago, and haven’t gotten there since. I’ve been hard stuck at d2/3 for a long time and I feel like there are so many other people that just don’t belong in diamond 2/3. Some people are hitting flip resets, some can’t even aerial. Ranked is so scuffed nowadays.
I have around 3 -5k hours. I was up to gc in a few types. A few games from my gc rewards about 3 years ago. I took a break after not getting it because I didn't want to grind back up. I kept mid to high champ for quite a while and then moved. When I started playing again after about 6 month or so I was around d2. I haven't been into champ since. I played with a friend who was gc2 or gc3. And we were still losing games in d3. I have played solo and I'm still getting matched against people that have gc titles and carry a lobby by 400 or more points. It's too the point where I'd rather play something else.
I sure hope I can get another car pack though. Maybe another 20 dollar white fennec or a football team for my car. Or better yet! Maybe I can have them take away another key feature like trading. Maybe take my boost trails or the jumping feature.
I feel you bro.
Cap god no one that deserves gc drops back to d3 and no gc2/gc3 loses in diamond
@@Jojo-bj1gs I think what happened is that the algo is making them play against other champ 3 or champ 2 or something, or the oc is just lying cuz if youre gc u will still play like a gc no matter what lower rank u go to
Skill issue
Remember the parts where I said I took multiple month breaks multiple times? And I only play a few times a week now for an hour or so each time. I was in gc 3 years ago and have probably only put another 200 or 300 hours in since then. I don't train and I rarely solo q anymore. And I quite literally played with the gc2/gc3 guy with another former c2 in a d3/c1 lobby and lost a few games.
I don't have shit to prove to internet people. I'll be the first to say I can't musty or reset or whatever. I'm just vocalizing what my fairly experience has been. Started playing in 2016. Got rewards for pretty much every season up until around season 13 or 14 prior to the wiped reset.
Sometimes you don't have to believe things for them to be true. They are just are.
The thing with diamond in my opinion is that its quite literally random every single game. I play rocket league about 4-8 hours a day since like 2 months ago and I've went up and down between d2 and c1 multiple times, and its not only the inconsistency from me but also the inconsistency from the speed and quality of each game. 1 game was about as slow as the d2 game you showed in the video and then the next game i would be put in a lobby way faster than the d3 one you showed, and I also tend to play down and up to whoever I'm playing against as well so maybe that can be another thing that's the reason why diamond is very random. But I feel like diamond is such a chaotic rank that its almost impossible to sum it up in a 13 minute video.
Since starting RL a year ago ive been in Diamond for almost the whole time which says alot. It felt like the people i was playing with just got better equally which made us all stuck in DIamond.
I'm an OG and yeah, I've just been hard stuck Diamond for years. Granted it is also a me issue of just holding the status quo, but the difference in skills from even 2yrs ago to now is just wild. Like every time I start learning a mech or get more consistent and faster, every one else in diamond ups their game too.
@@insanospaz Exactlyyyyy
@@insanospaz " Like every time I start learning a mech or get more consistent and faster, every one else in diamond ups their game too." - so you believe only you should be improving?
@@SA80TAGE That's not what I was trying to say. It's just like diamond is a mess of people who force each other to be better and we all go nowhere.
i got out of diamond in 1month and its crazy. champ 1 lobbys is a copy of d3 but little faster@@TypeGG
I've thought about this a bit as a D2 and how I would describe the ranks to a new player. I think plat is where players start to learn how to control their car. They have a feel for the basic controls and start to feel comfortable going for aerials, but there are so many whiffs because the mechs aren't there. Diamond is where people start to learn how to control the ball. People can hit the ball 80+% of the time, but the touches aren't always the best and people give away posession all the time. D3/C1 are where I started to see people going for a lot of double taps and resets. Defense and rotations are all over the place in diamond. Some people are walls and others don't even bother playing defense and just ball chase.
10:58 "Where was he??" As you're jumping up and down going nowhere helpful has got to be the most diamond level blame game I've ever seen. Actually laughed at that thank you
bro what
I have a theory about Rocket League: I think the game intentionally places most players in a specific rank to prevent them from ever feeling truly accomplished. You might find that one game you're performing exceptionally well, but the next game you feel like you're not doing well at all. Have you considered how your teammates or opponents might be influencing this? I believe Rocket League sometimes assigns teammates or opponents of higher or lower skill levels to balance the game and keep players engaged. Without this challenge, players might lose interest, as it’s the game’s difficulty that keeps them playing. So, even if you're a Champion, you might find yourself stuck in Diamond because the game often pairs you with teammates or opponents of varying skill levels to adjust the match outcome.
Yeah, we all know the reason: smurfs & boosted accounts, both ruining the Diam1-Champ2 range.
I've been a D1 for the majority of Season 12/13. Sometimes I get up to D2. You see a lot of plat level game sense or mechanics. Game speed is often faster than the video here, but maybe that's just my play style. You can tell people are trying to slow it down and focus on dribbling. Often times catching the ball in their corner and setting up the dribble. Rotations are almost an afterthought in 2s, although you do catch people breaking them. In 3s you get way more people breaking rotation/chasing... still better than plat though. Kick-offs are nearly 50/50 with how many speed flips I see. I still can't do it but I win the majority of my kick-offs anyway by focusing on the center of the ball. For mechanics, DAR is pretty common and some people do it very well. No flip resets, if you see that it's probably a smurf. Often times players take the ball up the wall and try to air dribble with 1, maybe 2 bounces. There is also a lot of them taking the ball up the opponents back board and trying to pass it back to teammates for a shot. There are some pretty good demos in the opponents goal or when they're rotating back to catch the opponent in the middle of a dribble. Toxicity is much less than plat but if you get a toxic teammate the game is pretty much lost.
As a d3 in 2s and c1 in 3s and as a d2 in 1s, I can attest that rl is broken and I am breaking it.
I score double resets in my game, but I have a huge misflipping and overcommiting problem.
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yeah, that's diamond for you @@randomalexskin7076
that's crazy💀
Funny thing is those are both my exact ranks in 2s and 3s, except In Season 13/14 of pre Epic I was hovering around 1600 GC in both lists. It's super inconsistent around Diamond/Champ these days.
the biggest breakers are SSLs that create new accounts, goes to bronze, and then proceeds to not allow the opponent to score and won't score either, making the match go on for 20+ minutes before the opponent realizes the SSL are trying really hard to make everything believable
The main problem with diamond players are constant unreal blunders. I play duos.
- Double commiting in corners while defending or attacking
- Going for big boosts while being last man simply letting the other team score an empty net.
- Overall being unable to play as a last man and unwillingness to defend.
- Horrible positioning
What I would call smaller problems are
- Throwing yourself into enemy net in hopes of somehow scoring even though you dont even have an angle or are obviously late
- Diamonds often try to defend thier net of the side of their backboard when its not even necessary, missing the ball 90 percent of the time resulting in a free goal.
I would also add diamond 3 or low champ is a place where people start to seem like they actually start to care for winning and think about what they are doing while below this rank many people are similiar in skill but are simply not trying to go for a result. The problem i observed that stays in champ is going for big boosts and letting your net open. The saddeset type of goal youll see in champ lol.
Me and my two buds are diamond 3 champ 1 players and have been for the last 8 seasons. None of us work on mechanics and can't do any fancy-schmansy techs, but we rely on good rotation, years of playing together, and solid fundamentals. We hate it, and complain to ourselves, when someone hits any type of trick shot against us. Our competition is wildly inconsistent from game-to-game. From "what are these smurfs doing in Diamond 3" to "how in the world are those three players Diamond".
felt this one. Especially if its just so obvious its a smurf.
It's actually the same song and dance as any other rank.
Climb from D1-D3 Div3 by being hyper focused on your gameplay, managing teammate's mistakes and capitalizing on the opponent's whiffs. Start your rank up game to see two C3 tournament winner banners in the opposing lobby and you watch as you start losing since they are much faster, more skilled, and have comms. They know they will win so they type in chat GGs a minute before the match ends which starts the confidence killer mental game you never need. In a blind rage you press on in hopes of getting your deserved rank back. After a few bad games you have calmed down by practicing in free play and are ready to get your rank back. You then realize you are back to D1 Div2...
A teammate recently said "I improve enough to keep up with my rank" and I feel that's a good view of most of the Diamond rank (myself included).
I'm tempted to make a fresh account to see how things would be starting completely fresh. I watch some of the "road to ssl" vids and it looks like they are playing WAY lower level players than I see and wonder if account age/games played impacts match making.
That and possibly the streaks, they are mostly winning so I wonder if the matchmaking does a good job at throwing more accurately ranked players their way.
I made a brand new account on RL and I felt like I was smurfing through all of my placement matches (except I had a few bad tm8s so I lost 2 matches) I got placed at plat 3 and immediately got up to Diamond 1 which took me around 6 seasons to hit on my main account then I just felt as if i was smurfing through diamond 1, I had 700 points each match and made it to D2, and for 3s I got placed in D1 and its literally easier than plat 1 on my main and i cant get anywhere near diamond on main in 3s :/
it looks like that because the people your watching r pros or ssl bro
To be honest, the first guy is relly good for a d1. The way he moves around the field is really clean, and a lot of the time he has the right ideas, like the touch at 2:16 to setup off the wall with a perfect bounce. If that was done on purpose (and I think it was, from the way he single jumped to hit the ball) is really advanced for a d1. Good job man!
i am d3-c1, most of these players that are "sweaty" are mostly ppl who only grind freeplay and just started playing ranked (i say this by experience, i can do airdribbles and flip resets constantly, and so can my enemies/teammates), i've asked ppl how are they mechy and with decent gamesense and they said they were grinding casuals and freeplay (basically what i do).
Also there are a lot of smurfs/gc's from other gamemodes (its really common to find gc tags from 3v3 in 2v2).
Also this is in LAN, idk about other regions.
Double also zapdash is pretty common, idk if its a hard mech since i find it easy cuz it's just timing but i've heard ppl say its hard so idk
I think diamond lobbies(d1,d2) are where the weekend warriors peak and simply have amazing game sense and reading of the game play.
Anything higher than that you have players genuinely trying to grind out the ranks.
Unfortunately, it seems like you have plat1-c2 players bounding in and of diamond currently.
I am Champ 2 and all 3 of those diamonds can air dribble as good or better than me. :) I think the issue is that this game has so many ways that you can get good. The result is that you get people who can are clean with a flip reset but can't shadow defend to save their life. I think the biggest thing to make it in champ, is that there is such a mix of play styles and skills. That you just need to get used to/get good at dealing with those things. I cannot do flip resets, but I know when to look for them so that I can try to shut them down or try to cut the play of early if there is a really mechy player in the game.
As a D2 I can confirm that going up each rank in diamond is like a spike in difficulty compared to the gradual increase in gold of plat. Pretty accurate representation Cbell.
honestly this is the closest and current most accurate situation going on in diamond rn. i used to sit at D3 div4 for about 2 years straight till tm8s dragged me down and made me hardstuck. ive gone through hell to try and fight back up to d3 and i still cant get back there. i always get toxic players, trash players or tm8s that are as low as bronze for some reason in a diamond lobby (being carried or just plays as bad as one). ive stated for years that many diamond players actually have 0 clue how to play. their movement and positioning sucks, they chase, overcommit, would rather focus on going for a corner boost or big boost either than the smaller boost pads or actually defending when they are about to shoot to literally not facing the ball, missing,shadowing for no reason,double committing, tryna play solo in a duo or 3s game, own goaling and not going for the ball when they should or the most infuriating, snaking me and hitting tm8s cause they are apparently blind.
just as much as there are good things that players do in diamond ranks, 99 percent of them double uo as bad as well. the thing about diamond players not defending or knowing how to defend is the biggest problem because they only know how to attack and barely even barely know how to do that correctly. i cant trust a single tm8 on rocket league anymore because the second im out of goal, my tm8s are throwing in some way, cant save the ball, refuses to rotate, overcommits and causes an issue, to rotating wide, own goaling and basically anything u can think of. i now can play both however ive had to basically stay in defense every match just to ensure we can win a game and because ik i can save the ball from going in and carry the games to a win because i didnt concede goals like the rest of diamond players always do. being deep in defense isnt a problem in 3s or 2s if u actually no what ur doing and can save the ball but no one knows how to play still. it may be more mechanical in diamond compared to any lower ranks where ppl start learning the mechanics but it means nothing if your the reason every match u play is thrown and u blame others for ur actions. you are your own downfall, thats why im on my way already to getting out of diamond 1 and 2 and heading back into d3.
pretty much. I personally rubber band rank in 2v2 like crazy. last week I had a champ promo match and then went on a loss streak and didn't recover until 30 points before plat 3, yesterday bounced back to mid D2. I think that's just the solo q experience though. Skill and playstyle synergy is super varied in such a simple game.
Been hovering between D3 and C1 since ye olde times of 2017/2018. Been in C2 (2s) a handful of times.
In my years of diamond experience - the amount of GCs in diamond has increased drastically over these last few years. You never know if they're smurfs, boosted players or the "I only troll in 3s" type of GCs. I mainly play 3s these days and I'm certain this problem is more prevalent in that playlist. In 2s you start seeing these guys a bit later (mby in higher diamond and C1) but in 3s you see a GC tag in every other game in D1/D2
Consistency and defense are the main reason why people are in Diamond. Diamond players other than those two could honestly be c1-c2s at least. I’ve had the problem with champs in my diamond lobbies especially earlier in the season. Now it’s smurfs every so often since we’re later into the season but mostly I’ve been able to make some good movement towards Champ. I’ve been both D3 div 4 and D1 div3 this season because of the inconsistency of diamond players, and cause every so often you get a random plat (they are usually on my team 😂). For myself, I’m inconsistent and pretty mid at defense.
I have around 1.4k hours in rocket and about 600+ hours were spend in diamond from 2020 to mid 2023, being consistently champion now and having spend so much time in diamond rank range one thing became clear to me, how sometimes you have games where people go absolutelly cracked from both sides with games with insane saves, crazy shots, redirects, double taps, flip resets, ceiling shots and on point rotations to where everyone is silver with teammates bumping each other, missing easy shots or missing the ball entirelly, its all about consistency, diamonds is a super super inconsistent rank, even more then plats and below, its just that rank where its all about how well you manage to play that day, its after diamond when everyone starts to have a baseline consistency of how well they play each day .And with so much variations of playstyles and consistency its no wonder diamond is for so many.
I peaked at Diamond 3 in season 10 for a short while and could go into tournaments pretty easily. Diamond tournaments now consistently include a smurf that managed to solo the lobby or a team that was high champ a season or two ago. I can barely maintain diamond 1 now, and that's with a lot of improvement that I can see in my own replays. I have a lot to improve on myself, but it's an absolute cluster when you get a past-champ teammate one game, then the next you get a teammate whose rank is normally plat 2-3. Then some of those games, the champ has movement like a plat, then others the plat has movement like a champ; it's usually adaptable but when it's so over the place it's more difficult to adapt to such drastic play styles. It is truly a bumfuzzling experience.
Diamond is where you get stuck until you actually put in practice to get out of it. It's essentially the last rank you can casually go up and down into by just queuing over and over and never touching practice or freeplay. Id say this vid got some very good diamond games. They can get a whole lot worse than that.
I am again c1/d3 this season and it really depends on the lobby, i play with and friend and were are more of gamesense type of players but the mechs from the opponets are somtimes so random, a few reset mustys on you the next one is a double tab master and the other times there are people that can't hit an open net. A huge problem are also the smurf i am impressed that they havn't got an smurf in there lobby, I get 6/10 times a guy who is plat 1 ranked with an normal c1 d3 (they try to balance the mmr) tm8 which double flip resets and and has the greatest mechanics that i have ever seen (I rank in europe btw). I am also impressed that every one used air roll, even the d1 and that most of the time consistent, so I have doubts that they were actully low diamond.
Sorry for my english if i have some spelling mistakes :)
The problem is, all games in all three (d1, d2, d3) can be as slow as a plat 2 match, or as fast as a champ 1 match. I've been in all three ranks recently, and they are all over the place. But mostly filled with deranked champs and even grand champs.
Im up and down between D1 and D2. I play duos with 1 friend only. Sometimes we lose 5 in a row against people who hit 3 flip reset double taps from the corner in a game, then we win 4 games in a row against people who cant fast aerial and whiff everything😅
I'm diamond 2 div 2 and If I solo que it always feels like I have to carry the whole game and when I make one mistake my teammate insults me or ragequits for no reason. The only times I don't get carried is when a person has the same playstyle as me or it's a GC - SSL smurf.
I’ve been hard stuck in Diamond 1-3, for the last 4 years. This year specifically though Diamond is all over the place. Especially solo queuing for whatever reason this year everytime I solo queue I have the worst experience. But when I play with someone I know so climb the ranks.
A solo queue rank and a team rank would be more honest. IMO
The best way to explain diamond is that we are all struggling with consistency at this time. One day I can be hitting musty flicks and air dribbles and the next day I'm missing the ball a lot.
Another thing that diamonds deal with is, people who play with their higher ranked friends. They aren't that good of diamonds, and now they're playing with a diamond not their higher ranked friend. I'm missing the double tap and they don't know where to be. But if I'm playing with a diamond who got there solo queuing like I did, he knows where to be and the game feels faster because we're all actually at the same pace.
That being said, we would have a more honest definitive ranking system only in a solo queue system, in my opinion. Then teams could be for team queuing and more of an honest team rank.
I’ve been d1 for the past couple of seasons, always getting to the point of being d2 but get teammates that belong in plat sometimes. I know I can ball chase sometimes but, this season I can’t even get into d1 again because of the mmr system. I do agree the matches can go from slow to sweaty really easily.
This video covered 40% of actual diamond lobbies and gameplay as well as game speed. I am d3 div2 and tbh, its crazy to see that previous seasons platinum lobbies were crazy at that moment. Nowadays I cannot tell the difference between a c1 and a d3 players.
Diamond 1v1 gameplay is actually wild you should check it out. Half of it is bots and half of it are mechanical gods
Lol, yep, especially diamond 1
It's because the definition of the ranks haven't changed. But people have gotten better at the game.
Bronze- You're either really new, young, old, or you just dont care.
Silver- You understand the game a little but still bad.
Gold- You know how to play the game now but you're not good. You are just now trying to incoperate aerials into your plays.
Platinum- You know how to do a lot of stuff but you cant actually do it 99% of the time.
Diamond- You can do stuff now, but you aren't consistent. Can make some crazy plays happen but you also f the play up a lot.
Champ- You are more consistent and faster. Can do more advanced stuff but still not consistent.
Grand Champ+ - You are cracked at the game.
I’ve started to see progress in my mechs and understanding of the game as I picked the game up again recently, and this is basically exactly what Diamond looks like, it’s literally the most inconsistent rank you’ll ever see
I've been diamond for years. The change from this year to last year was insane. I don't have mechs but game Sense and used to be diamond 3. All of a sudden I'm having ceiling shots on me and very fast games but the next game it feels like plat players. Most of the time I'll ask and most mech players say they were C2 or 3 last season
how does cabelo not have 10M+ subs?? he is really underrated.
Diamond is the most confusing and annoying rank for sure. Some games people are flip resetting like squishy and some cant hit the ball on the easiest shots. Its hard to know what to expect and predict in games like that.
This is an accurate representation of gold-diamond as well. Especially the 1v1 at the end. The lower the rank, the better the players get. When I fell from diamond down to gold my opponents got better and better and better. Now plat 1 feels like diamond 3 did.
As a champ 1, you should interview my friend who has been constantly switching from plat 3 to diamond 2 and back again
Diamond is like unranked at the very start of a season
Diamond is a mix of the following people:
- queued up for a game and then went to make dinner (most common)
- people hunting for youtube highlight clips
- duos who constantly double-commit the ball
- teammates who keep passing the ball to the opponents
- teammates who hog all the boost
When a game starts and I see a teammate in the kickoff position, my first consideration is "Are they going to be AFK?"
I’m happy as a diamond that I’m good at defense, but I have seen diamond 1 players that should be champ 😂
it’s the same thing in platinum and as well comparing party queue to normal is insane. Also, I’m more saves Heavy person and people are always super surprised when I save something hard
I have almost 1000 hours now and I started around 2018, yet i'm still hard stuck at D1! I feel like it's a pretty accurate depiction. I think some lower mech players can have great game sense and shine in that aspect, whereas I have practiced a ton on mechs but it took me about 700 hours to realize ball chasing and going for crazy fancy shots wasn't helping my rank. Someday Champion will come, or even D2!!!
there’s no way. I got to champ in 200 hours ong
I must say that it is very frustrating to see that people who are diamonds get in videos like that and lie about what diamond games are, when you are diamond, the games are mostly slow, the guy that is in diamond 2 in the video doesn't seem to know what he's talking about, I've been diamond for over 6 months and this guy clearly doesn't know what being diamond is. Then for the guy that's in diamond 3, he says that there are no smurfs, though if you find yourself a teammate and do 2s with him, there is a 90% chance you'll go against a guy that has 700-750 elo or even lower accompanied with a guy that has 1000-1050 elo, smurfs are a real problem in diamond games. + all of them act like diamond is fast but literally everyone in diamond games do bad aerials, ballchase and will start getting toxic at you although they made the mistake and not you, additionally I highly believe that all of them got in lucky games that do not represent most of diamond games.
Im jumping between d3-c2 this season and some c2 games felt like d3 and the other way around. Most people in d3 are prior champs and are either fast mechanical players or gamesense based slower players. Im getting called out as Smurf a lot in d3 and c1(just barely couldn’t reach gc last season) bc people just don’t get that solo queuing messes with ur rank a lot. I lose like every 3rd match bc of 1-2 major whiffs from mates in situations where i don’t even see it coming and can’t react in time(doesnt matter Im the fastest in the lobby every time). So to sum it up d3 is the champ 1-2 graveyard and everyone is toxic as hell and think they r zen. Cheers
Me and my buddy have been diamond 3/champ 1 for the longest time now. The inconsistency is insane. We’ll win and rank up into champ, then verse 2 extremely good teams (usually always good matches within 1 point) then if we lose and go back down to diamond we end up against people who seem like they don’t belong there at all and end up getting a FF 2 minutes into the match. Also, the problem I find with diamond is there’s a lot of people on smurfs/alt accounts carrying their friend (the friend isn’t even “bad” either just not as consistent). These people aren’t hitting triple flip resets, but they’re so consistent that it’s pretty easy to tell they aren’t a diamond 3/champ 1. Then I look at their rocket league tracker and see they have 150 wins. This happens at least once or twice every time I play for about an hour and a half with my friend.
As someone who mostly starts the season in D3 and from mid to end season mostly sits at C1.
The games feel really inconsistent, like sometimes you have someone in the game that can barely hit the ball in the right direction and other times u have people flip resetting left and right like it is as natural for them as breathing.
This makes the games just feel really shitty and (at least for me) makes it difficult to build up consistency with mechanics while playing and for that reason, I too am one of the people who sometimes carries hard and other times needs to be carried hard (and everything in between those two extremes).
I think the game needs a hard reset for the ranks and also some type of mechanic to make smurfing/boosting harder.
Tho I don't know what system would be the best for it.
Maybe something similar to CS's Prime Matchmaking? That u can verify your Rocket League account with your Phone number or buy a "premium" account wich then lets u search for an extra matchmaking list.. with the option to also search for the "non-premium" list? or maybe even both, need to verify with a phone number AND buying the "premium" account?
Would that be something the RL community would be ok with? tho that should also give all the people who bought RL trough Steam an automatic "premium" account... because u know, they already bought the game once...
Uh yeah this is accurate. Look sometimes I have a tm8 who will drive into net on defense and then power slide turn around like he’s a gold. Then sometimes I watch a guy going for resets and double taps. It is such a mess here. I’ve played games that were like all of the speeds of the ones here. You can 100% be a champ stuck in diamond right now. I’ve seen countless numbers of them.
I solo queue a lot and I will range from D1 to high D3 in any given season. In my opinion there is no difference in skill between those 3 ranks. Sometime you get a tm8 that is solid and knows how to rotate, sometime you get put up against a team that is above average, other times you get put up against a team is way below average. I find myself in a lot of cases having to play somewhat heavy on the Defense because I can't rely on my tm8 to be in net or center or.... But I do know the key to winning when solo queuing in 2s is to quickly adjust your playstyle to cover off your tm8s weak spots. i.e. if you have a ball chaser as a tm8 be a little more tentative and wait for plays to be created by his chasing. On the flip side if you have a tm8 that is strong and rotates well and plays positionally well you can start to make passing plays and trust that they will be where they need to be.
You wanna know the mess that's diamond? That D1 player you had is definitely better than I am, and I'm D3
Honestly, from only those games it's hard to realize the truth about disparity in diamond. First game looked like a top gold game, second one could be anywhere from plat 2 to d2, the d3 game looked regular, not too crazy, d1 game in my eyes. Surprisingly, the players on their own in freeplay are way better than the game they played. But I've played top plat games way crazier than any of these games and d2 games way worse than any of them too... I've deranked to plat 2 recently and got into lot of games with players able to score resets, passing plays and double taps. Went back to d1 and the games got much easier. I'm talking solo queue. Teaming up (usually I play with former champs hard stuck in diamond), the level is globally higher. But everything you said is true. Inconsistency is the main issue in diamond, people are getting better and are getting greedier (I know I am). At some point it feels like the more you think you improve, the worse you play :)
Diamond is a mess rn…. Champs are in D1 and D2, Plats are in D3, it makes no sense😭
I'm confused, where are the obviously high stoner teammates with crazy mechs and no ball sense
I peaked 2 seasons ago at C1d4 in 2s. Since my "fall from grace", I've hardly been able to get back to D3. I'm a much better player now, but I understand that the rest of the community is improving too.
That said, the ranking system is absolutely useless once you reach about D2. I think most players are D1 because most don't find much gameplay improvement after reaching high Plat, either because they hit a skill ceiling or a lack of interest, which... there was a time where if you could make it to P3, you were a decent player.
Now, Plat feels like Gold. Diamond and Champ have so much variance in skill (up to at least C3) that it all really feels like the same rank. And the amount of high-level players being pushed down from high Champ or GC make moving up... a nearly insurmountable task unless you have someone to run with. And honestly, even if you have a solid teammate, you'll end up running into a team of "Diamond" C2s every other match. It feels like every game, either you're playing a smurf, or you are the smurf.
The D1 gameplay is exactly how Minkz described it; it's all over the place. Because, again, you have former borderline-D3 players (and some Champs) with the skill and knowledge to be higher ranked playing against, essentially, Plats with some mechanics and *okay* game sense. You get ball chasers, and you get "goalies". You get solid double-tap goals, and you get both teams whiffing the ball for 10 seconds. Some games are meticulously slow, and some games are track meets. It's hard to get a bead on where the competition is.
This basically lasts until you're like 2 divs up in D3. Then, you basically need C3 skill or better in order to rank up. It's like there's a consistent increase in the non-existent difficulty setting up until high D2. Then it becomes matches against RNG.
There are so many players hardstuck in Diamond who are way too skilled to be there. And a lot of lower Diamonds who still don't have a handle on what it really means to play Rocket League. It's the new melting pot, the way P3 was a couple years ago.
I do a lot of casual matches now, and my MMR fluctuates between 1300 and 1450. I literally play Golds, Plats, Diamonds, Champs, GCs, and I've even met a couple SSLs in cas. All in that 150 MMR range. I like it for the experience I get playing higher-level players, but there is something fundamentally wrong with that spread.
What casual looks like in that MMR range is an example of this game's broken rank system. Yes, I know. Casual MMR doesn't affect "rank", but you still have to win to move up and lose to move down. How can there be so many players in this range with such varying ranks? Even if it mixed up at the beginning of a season, the better players should just move up and hang around the higher numbers, while those still learning play against others near their skill level.
I'll finish my rant here. But yeah, Diamond has become a barrier in RL. It seems like every player with a semblance of skill ends up hanging out here. Below are those coming to terms with "feeling" the game. Above are those with skill worthy of at least semi-pro competition (in RLCS 1, the pros looked like today's entry-level Diamonds. That says a lot).
CBell are we ever going to see another ranked attacker/defenders video? I love the RTSSL series you’re doing. And would really like to see you sprinkle in some ranked attackers videos
Diamond is basically champ level players having to carry a bunch of plats.
Yea this video is accurate. Some games are slow, some are fast and you’re obviously playing players more skilled than you. I am almost champ but I don’t have a lotta hope that I’ll make it all the way due to the inconsistency of the lobbies
As someone who took a years break and dropped about 400 mmr to go to diamond, i found it a lot harder to get out of that area than i have with champ 1. Champ feels consistent and i can expect things so much better because the players all have similar skill levels in mechanics and positioning, but diamond had such a huge variety of skill that I could be playing amazingly and the opponents were just gods hitting flip reset double taps and my team were missing a lot of aerials and could not defend a dribble. It was an experience to be sure and the distribution of skill within the ranks was insane.
the thing is...most diamonds are sweaty champs (like myself) that keep getting gatekeeped back down to diamond... can hit crazy clips but my wifi is dog so I can't consistently climb with lag spikes every 20-30 seconds. the rest of diamonds are plats that either got carried up there by their friends (like my friends) or are just good enough at a specific thing (positioning, boost control, defense, etc.) that they got out of plat. Diamond truly is the massive pit that funnels those that are just becoming decent and those that aren't consistent enough to be solid champ or higher.
It’s amazing how the level of play at these ranks has changed over time. I haven’t played in almost 2 years but I was always somewhere between D1 and low C1. Back then, D2 and D3 players were great at defense and aerials, but lacking in pretty much all other mechanics. The vast majority wouldn’t even dream of hitting flip resets or double touches. Games were low scoring and only players that were good on both sides of the ball could rank up. Wild to see that the opposite is true now
Honestly is pretty accurate as I can vouche for being in D2 for this whole season. I’m also not the most consistant, but can also play good/mechy and have really off games.
i can't get out of diamond 3, i've been C1 a couple of times and it's a pain fr, there is ppl hittind crazy aerial shots and mechanics and others that miss every shots
It's also hard because you don't see consistency in your opponents to the point where you learn to defend against higher level mechanics. You might run into higher level mechs 1/4 of the time and get dusted each time, but it doesn't happen frequently enough to learn from.
I’m a former champ player who has been stuck in low diamond for multiple seasons now. I feel like I’ve only gotten better at the game but my teammates are a COMPLETE crap shoot. I either get a teammate who is insane (only on offense of course) or I get a teammate who wants to play from the passenger seat of my car because they won’t let me hit the ball or keep possession. Because of this I now live in diamond 2 with the game sense of a champ player but my teammates are normally inflated plat players who struggle to hit aerials and have absolutely no idea how to rotate. 😅 Send help. I’d rather stay diamond with teammates who belong there than be teetering on champ with teammates who are clearly plat players.
there are two type of players in diamond, the one who is just enjoying and wants to do cool shots, and the one who is trying his best to make any goal
719,768 diamond players and non of them can hit the ball lol
what i have noticed or more like witnessed, when i was still d3 last season but got to c1 like 5 times and instantly fell off, is that the reason i didn’t win in d3 every time was that the speed of play was always diffrent. now im in c2 and its imo a lot easier to rank up because the speed of play stays the same.
the d1 game looked like cbell gameplay
I have been Diamond for as long as I can remember other than the beginning of rocket league. I mainly stay in d2 where it’s all over the place. I quit 2’s for a bit and started my 1’s journey. My placement was plat3. As a rocket league player who has like 7/10 mechs and 8/10 game sense, and who has been in Diamond for an eternity, I can vouch that it is messed up! My first 4 matches in ranked were at least d1, keep in mind I didn’t start ranking till the middle of the season, my last 6 matches went strait to gc and champ. As I gone through d1 I encountered 1 champ, just 1. But my last 6 matches were tough but they felt like my level. I lost about 3 matches. It’s been a journey but I have decided to quit ranking until the ranks are fixed. I personally recommend players that are in low ranks to be challenged with the rank higher than them, and if they win, they get that rank, and if they lose they keep quit. As respectfully as can be, most players are bad, and some people are good. I hope that I can get a chance to show my skill to prove I deserve better than Diamond, but that’s all just a luck based request. My user is Phazist.
These r my fav videos of ur cus u make their input on the ranks feel important. U like a rocket league journalist
Couple seasons ago I hit my peak rank c3, then dropped to c1 the next season. I kept dropping and dropping each season, and last two seasons I was diamond for most of the time. Although I always manage grind back my way to c1, c2 was hard to reach. I was only able to get c2 at the end of some seasons. However, this season I finally was able to get back to my original rank c3.
the reason why so many are diamond is because its already hard/challenging enough to be dedicated enough to get thru the elo hell that is diamond without getting tilted or burned out and right after u get done with that ur staring down the champ elo hell which is argueably worse espcially at c3.. and then u still gotta deal with grand champ to get SSL like damn bro diamond is just the worst place to be in ur grind, its like an unsurmountable mountain...
Mainly because of the community tho. Squishy went undefeated on his road to grand champ series and still needed 60 games to get out of diamond. And thats with 100% winrate imagine a realistic 60-65% winrate above average player probably needing 100+ games to get thru the rank which is an insane time commitment especially when ur teammates are actively afk at the start of most games, leaving, bumping you, owngoaling, and spamming what a save because diamond's community is just terrible... imo Its very hard pretty much impossible to actually commit to this grind and see it all the way thru without getting burned out or tilted before finishing those 100+ games required to get thru the rank and onto "better" lobbies
Also its just tilting to play freeplay for tons of hours and get way better than the people of ur rank and then have to carry ur way out thru hundreds of games in order to get to where u really deserve, its why a lot of freestylers are diamond/champ despite having SSL mechanics
my duo partner and I have been sitting top diamond / bottom of champ for about a year now, and we don't have nearly the mechanics of some of the players you showed here. just consistent fundamentals.
this looks a lot like what we see every game, except half the time one of our opponents is capable of flip resetting and doing insane air dribbles if they are allowed to have control of the ball.
It makes sense that Diamond has the most players. Here's why:
1) It's quite easy to reach once you've learned how to actually hit the ball with some decent power, but Champ is when people really start to figure out how to position, shoot, etc.
2) The rank is filled with braindead 'super' mechy players who throw half of their games, because they overcommit or send the ball straight into the opponents' arms.
3) The rank is also filled with smart players who enjoy stuff like teamplays, but are too slow to fix a mistake they've made which ultimately leads to a goal.
4) This rank is usually when people stop playing (or caring for) the game, as getting into Champ and higher requires a more serious attitude towards learning actual good game sense and mechanics.
And how do we fix this 'problem'? First of all, make the mmr gaps between the divisions and ranks much bigger, just like GC1 to GC2 for example. Secondly, fix the smurf issue: create a 'Smurfing' report option, and automatically send a replay of a game to moderators when a player that has much less mmr than the rest of the lobby gets MVP with a point gap of at least, say, 300 points. The moderators will then be able to review the game and quickly see if the much lower ranked player is just peaking or actually a much higher ranked player on a smurf account.
Platinum has the most players, by about 11% over diamond.
@@muskratgg Well the video clearly states most players are in diamond. Not sure where you got your numbers from, but I guess similar reasons apply to why so many people are in platinum as well.
@@kevinderoo3880 While that is what the video states, the data is inherently wrong due to it's source: RLTracker. CBell was sent the official distribution data from the developers that shows just over 21% of players in diamond and 32% in plat (the peak of the bell curve). But CBell is actively deleting comments that point out this large gap in information.
As a D2 lvl player, I can say that play fluctuates and players are all over the place in terms of skill. A game in D1 can feel plat lvl while ur next game is champ lvl. It's volitile for sure, and solo queuing is ranked suicide. Also, almost every player in diamond can speed flip and make basic air plays now. In my experience, diamond players play way to selfish and tend not to rotate due to a lack of trust in others.