34.91% of Players are Diamond...that's TOO many

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  • @CBellRL
    @CBellRL  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

    if 34.91% of you liked the video I think we can get to 7 likes. also don't forget to check out the Eswap S Pro Controller, now available at Walmart: bit.ly/EswapCbell

    • @OCE-Winter._RL
      @OCE-Winter._RL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why does it say this comment was pinned multiple hours ago if the video only came out a couple of minutes ago?

    • @FCB539
      @FCB539 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      9 hours ago? but the video came out 23 minutes ago

    • @seromu09
      @seromu09 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      xd
      @@FCB539

    • @michaelriggs1865
      @michaelriggs1865 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OCE-Winter._RL He can pre-post it I believe. Basically it's on his TH-cam page and he can interact with it but nobody else can see it yet.

    • @mimi_is_king
      @mimi_is_king 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Been diamond 1 for one and half year 💀 i need some help

  • @keenftw4170
    @keenftw4170 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2372

    I've dropped from c2 to d2 and gone back up like 5 times. There are players who should be like c3 and there are players who should be in plat respectfully. Diamond is a mess rn

    • @alecs9079
      @alecs9079 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +215

      Funny you say this cos I was c2 earlier this season, at my relative peak. Now I'm trying to cling onto d3 for the life of me as I either have a bad game, match up with bad tm8s, or get triple flip reset mustyd on

    • @TRWhyped-
      @TRWhyped- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah, I am climbing back to c2 after a mix of those as well (got down to diamond 3 after a ranked session), c2 is an abomination. Ex gc's left and right, some games are easy, some games are RLCS level. It's not fun.@@alecs9079

    • @Presto-x
      @Presto-x 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      Literally I’m c2 and I feel the same way, I got a gc1 in one game and in another I got a kid who had 30 hours 😂

    • @all_benny
      @all_benny 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yeah this is why I stopped playing

    • @pawliwe
      @pawliwe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Honestly, this feels like a much more accurate statement of where diamond is at. I’ve been up as high as C1 and then up and down between D3 and D2 and then had an extremely bad run all the way down to D1. I think probably the most frustrating part is the absolutely crazy inconsistency with both your teammates and your opponents. You can have a D3 game that like what we saw on the video at D1. you can be in D1 and see crazy mechanics. This type of inconsistency makes it extremely difficult to institute a game plan that consistently works for each game.

  • @det_tf2
    @det_tf2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +674

    As someone who's been stuck in diamond 3 for the past couple months (usually Champ 1), inconsistency is the name of the game for high diamond. Every single person in diamond has good mechanics OR good gamesense OR good mental. You can have someone hitting flicks and resets but cuts every rotation or votes to FF/flames people at the three minute mark. You can also have someone like me, who can't fast kickoff, fast aerial, wavedash, etc. and has to compensate for that with good positioning, knowing when to challenge and when to back off, etc.
    Lots of diamond games also have one monumental whiff that gives up a goal, meaning the games can feel a bit random. You can have a game that feels better than most of my Champ 1 games, with really good saves and shots from both sides, but then someone completely whiffs on a ground ball and it trickles into the net for a 0-1 loss. I refuse to comment on how often I'm the one who whiffs.

    • @malnkylee9721
      @malnkylee9721 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      Literally in the same boat this is 100% accurate

    • @greatbriton8425
      @greatbriton8425 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      My son is also in the same boat and feel this is exactly his experience. He's not mechanically good as he just wants to play for fun but he loves tactics and has watched a few videos on them and lands up continually struggling to compensate for people who have no idea, like, overcommit with a shot and give the ball away to make a 2v1 defence situation.

    • @malnkylee9721
      @malnkylee9721 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@greatbriton8425 tell him to keep at it he's young! He can be the next zen or Daniel. As for me I'm pushing 30 I'm probably just a diamond for life lol.

    • @greatbriton8425
      @greatbriton8425 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@malnkylee9721 That's very sweet of you :) He's more into developing a career actually (in video editing probably).

    • @Matty_Ice9
      @Matty_Ice9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      As someone who was C1 for 2 seasons, and peaked at C2 being stuck now in D3 I cannot agree more. I am not super mechanical either, my highlight are my passes, and that can be hard with the range of players in D3 (some hitting resets, and some who can barely Ariel). I have also seen the most amount of throwers this season than any other.

  • @SizzlingSausag3
    @SizzlingSausag3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    Diamond lobbies are either champs who have been stuck with bad teammates or plats carried up that just can’t keep up

    • @dominickstiffarm5990
      @dominickstiffarm5990 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea

    • @realspineRL
      @realspineRL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or diamonds

    • @palomao8949
      @palomao8949 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's literally champ level players having to carry plats.

    • @axep3785
      @axep3785 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      man im a gold that got carried to diamond one then fell all the way to plat 2

    • @huejanus1333
      @huejanus1333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@palomao8949this is such cope😂

  • @floorsbychrisable
    @floorsbychrisable 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    It's pretty simple. They don't care. A giant Corporation bought the game and has done absolutely nothing to adjust the MMR structure since. In the first thing they did was make it so you can't leave casual games, essentially making it ranked. What is the difference? You have an MMR in casual you just can't see it. And the algorithm for casual might be worse than the algorithm for ranked, constantly in lobbies with a plat and a GC in the same game. Somebody tell epic we would be willing to wait another minute for a good game, fix the goddamn algorithm.

    • @MicahNeumann
      @MicahNeumann 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I am d2 and got put in casual ones with sun_rl who is a season 4 ssl tournament winner

    • @owfi
      @owfi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What is bro wafflin about

    • @CrankyBuddha
      @CrankyBuddha 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They definitely have made very targetted changes to the MMR structure in the last 3 seasons. Just not in the direction that makes plats happy lol

    • @randomalexskin7076
      @randomalexskin7076 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m a gold player and once got put in a game with a champ tourney winner

    • @yangcfull
      @yangcfull 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah, casual is absolutely broken. I'm a diamond 2 and somehow I got matched against a SSL tournament winner in casual, it's just ridiculous how dumb it is

  • @rooster700rr
    @rooster700rr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am Champ 2 and all 3 of those diamonds can air dribble as good or better than me. :) I think the issue is that this game has so many ways that you can get good. The result is that you get people who can are clean with a flip reset but can't shadow defend to save their life. I think the biggest thing to make it in champ, is that there is such a mix of play styles and skills. That you just need to get used to/get good at dealing with those things. I cannot do flip resets, but I know when to look for them so that I can try to shut them down or try to cut the play of early if there is a really mechy player in the game.

  • @rjman291
    @rjman291 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve been d1 for the past couple of seasons, always getting to the point of being d2 but get teammates that belong in plat sometimes. I know I can ball chase sometimes but, this season I can’t even get into d1 again because of the mmr system. I do agree the matches can go from slow to sweaty really easily.

  • @rlwynnharmonic6518
    @rlwynnharmonic6518 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    As a d3 in 2s and c1 in 3s and as a d2 in 1s, I can attest that rl is broken and I am breaking it.
    I score double resets in my game, but I have a huge misflipping and overcommiting problem.

    • @randomalexskin7076
      @randomalexskin7076 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      💀

    • @TRWhyped-
      @TRWhyped- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah, that's diamond for you @@randomalexskin7076

    • @FCB539
      @FCB539 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that's crazy💀

    • @TonyC2328
      @TonyC2328 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Funny thing is those are both my exact ranks in 2s and 3s, except In Season 13/14 of pre Epic I was hovering around 1600 GC in both lists. It's super inconsistent around Diamond/Champ these days.

    • @o1-preview
      @o1-preview 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the biggest breakers are SSLs that create new accounts, goes to bronze, and then proceeds to not allow the opponent to score and won't score either, making the match go on for 20+ minutes before the opponent realizes the SSL are trying really hard to make everything believable

  • @AaronKelley
    @AaronKelley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I peaked at Diamond 3 in season 10 for a short while and could go into tournaments pretty easily. Diamond tournaments now consistently include a smurf that managed to solo the lobby or a team that was high champ a season or two ago. I can barely maintain diamond 1 now, and that's with a lot of improvement that I can see in my own replays. I have a lot to improve on myself, but it's an absolute cluster when you get a past-champ teammate one game, then the next you get a teammate whose rank is normally plat 2-3. Then some of those games, the champ has movement like a plat, then others the plat has movement like a champ; it's usually adaptable but when it's so over the place it's more difficult to adapt to such drastic play styles. It is truly a bumfuzzling experience.

  • @nexton3087
    @nexton3087 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who mostly starts the season in D3 and from mid to end season mostly sits at C1.
    The games feel really inconsistent, like sometimes you have someone in the game that can barely hit the ball in the right direction and other times u have people flip resetting left and right like it is as natural for them as breathing.
    This makes the games just feel really shitty and (at least for me) makes it difficult to build up consistency with mechanics while playing and for that reason, I too am one of the people who sometimes carries hard and other times needs to be carried hard (and everything in between those two extremes).
    I think the game needs a hard reset for the ranks and also some type of mechanic to make smurfing/boosting harder.
    Tho I don't know what system would be the best for it.
    Maybe something similar to CS's Prime Matchmaking? That u can verify your Rocket League account with your Phone number or buy a "premium" account wich then lets u search for an extra matchmaking list.. with the option to also search for the "non-premium" list? or maybe even both, need to verify with a phone number AND buying the "premium" account?
    Would that be something the RL community would be ok with? tho that should also give all the people who bought RL trough Steam an automatic "premium" account... because u know, they already bought the game once...

  • @LueTheRat
    @LueTheRat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the fact that it is wayyy harder to get out of plat is crazy, ive been in plat for like 3-4 seasons, this season i managed to break through and i am now diamond 1 div 4 with 1 loss, diamond 1 almost feels like low plat-high gold

  • @Fireblats
    @Fireblats 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you play has the BIGGEST effect on what games you'll get. Both what day and what time. I'm champ mon-fri before 4pm and I'm d2/d3 any other time.

  • @LJ200k
    @LJ200k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Literally what I’ve been telling myself about rocket league matchmaking has been screwed these past few months. Glad I’m not going crazy. Went from D1-C1 then back to D2 in a week. Was playing against C2-3s and up.

  • @isaakvandaalen3899
    @isaakvandaalen3899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm diamond and this last season I've been as low as D1 div 2 and being literally a game away from Champ 1.
    The biggest problem is the variability in the matches.
    I've seen people in D1 hitting ceiling shots, and I've seen people in D3 who don't know what Ball-cam is.
    SoloQ is so hard because you just never know what you're getting into, there's no consistency.

  • @Papi_BruniTTV
    @Papi_BruniTTV 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s from the skill drop off of all the champs that haven’t played in a while. I think it was Lethamyr that made a video which emphasized the skill drop off from taking time away 🤘🏻

  • @zestarr2781
    @zestarr2781 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I must say that it is very frustrating to see that people who are diamonds get in videos like that and lie about what diamond games are, when you are diamond, the games are mostly slow, the guy that is in diamond 2 in the video doesn't seem to know what he's talking about, I've been diamond for over 6 months and this guy clearly doesn't know what being diamond is. Then for the guy that's in diamond 3, he says that there are no smurfs, though if you find yourself a teammate and do 2s with him, there is a 90% chance you'll go against a guy that has 700-750 elo or even lower accompanied with a guy that has 1000-1050 elo, smurfs are a real problem in diamond games. + all of them act like diamond is fast but literally everyone in diamond games do bad aerials, ballchase and will start getting toxic at you although they made the mistake and not you, additionally I highly believe that all of them got in lucky games that do not represent most of diamond games.

  • @SEgrin28
    @SEgrin28 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im usually high diamond 1 but was in mid-high diamond 2 earlier this season and it was a nice change. I felt like my teammates were in much better position more of the time much like this D2 game. I was getting 2-3 assists a game because my teammates would have better finish too (i can't aim for the life of me when I shoot but have good awareness)
    I solo queue with no mic so i find competition and teammates vary wildly from game to game but hey, so does my own game.
    I feel I'm where I should be for Rank and the variety in Diamond isn't all bad because I can try and learn from the games I go up against anyone much better than me.

  • @Slicer5182
    @Slicer5182 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, me and my duo at the start of the season were trying so hard to get out of d3, and we were so happy once we got champ. However I kid you not, 3 days later we were at champ 2 div 3. Diamond is just absolutely broken rn

  • @sadshyguygaming125
    @sadshyguygaming125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been playing the game since 2017, my first ranked rewards are from season 9. I started out on the Nintendo Switch and after putting in about 1k+ hours there, I bought a PC and since then have put in another 1k+ hours on Steam. I first achieved Diamond rank around Season 5(19) or 6(20), but that's just a guess I don't know for sure. For some odd reason I got Champ season rewards for season 10(24). I felt way out of place but I kept getting carried and somehow managed to not only reach Champ 1 but also got 10 wins. That was not my doing, that was getting carried hard in 2v2 by random team mates. Currently I am Diamond 1 and I feel like I don't deserve any higher than that. I always felt out of place in Diamond 2 and above, and that's still true to today. As far back as I can track I've played more 1v1 each season than any other playlist, I've been roughly the same rank in 1v1 and 2v2 since season 6(20). Although that might be comparing peak rank of previous seasons to what currently feels comfortable or casual this season. I might have some learning disabilities, I tend to spend a lot of time invested without actually learning anything.
    The Diamond 1 game seemed about right to me. But also I sometimes see players closer to the Diamond 2 or 3 game but in Diamond 1.

  • @relegation11
    @relegation11 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Dia 3 in your episode shows the issue why most diamonds are stuck, ball chasing, going for to much and purely rely on your teammates to play defence. So its a lot of scoring in every game.. What is missing in this game (atleast for european diamond) is that there is a lot lot more toxicity, surrender spam with 2goals down and 4mins to go, aswell as straight up not playing after failed surrender happends in atleast 25-33% of games

  • @jacobthenott1081
    @jacobthenott1081 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a retired player from beta before it went over to epic games, I was comfortable in champ, today I went back on the game and I was set into plat 2 games and in solo specifically they were hitting clips that weren’t even possible in champ back when I played in beta it’s crazy.

  • @__________Troll__________
    @__________Troll__________ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *Honestly diamond has been broken like this for the past 3 - 4 years or whenever f2p started. In standard I used to fluctuate between champ 2 - diamond 3, peaking a few times at C3 but easily falling to D2 sometimes and there are gc in those d2, d3 lobbies and players who clearly aren't ready for diamond. The main problem is that when you win or lose a game, all players are given the same reward/penalty to their MMR. But let's use our logical brains here, let's say your teammates are overwhelmingly out classed, they don't even get over a score of 100, you have a score of 700+ but y'all lose in overtime, why tf do you deserve to take the same amount of hit to your MMR as your teammates? The fact that this has happen to me multiple times, I'm sure many others have been there. Not to mention how often players will afk or start own goaling in diamond. It blows my mind that I haven't heard anyone talking about the broken logic around the way the game distributes MMR reward/penalties.*

  • @owenbuckleywfb
    @owenbuckleywfb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a champ 1, you should interview my friend who has been constantly switching from plat 3 to diamond 2 and back again

  • @charlesleist552
    @charlesleist552 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    D1/D2 here, yeah, it's a mess. Some games I can dribble and flick from across the field, but the next game I get air dribble, double tapped

  • @DarkenedNite
    @DarkenedNite 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to be gc1-gc2 and stopped playing for a bit
    I’m only c2-c3 now.
    I played with my friend in diamond 2 and there are so many people in that rank that are better than my teammates/opponents in high champ…
    but there are also so many people that are like plat
    It used to be like that in champ, and instead of doing a HARD RESET (please) and lowering the average mmr,
    they just kicked everyone’s ranks down with the large negative
    so there’s the same problem just in lower ranks

  • @adeadbush
    @adeadbush 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should take a look at Plat, it's even more all over the place... I've been stuck in plat 3 for more than 2 years already.

  • @VoidMySoul
    @VoidMySoul 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My $330 E-Swap controller lasted me 3 months. Both sticks at the same time started hardcore drifting for no reason. In RL my ball cam would start shooting off in different directions which was awesome.
    Edit: im not gonna buy new joysticks for a controller that failed that hard

  • @danhammond6103
    @danhammond6103 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when i first started playing a couple years ago i remember being silver and climbing to gold and then a new season hit got my placements in, and somehow got placed in diamond… people were telling me i was shit at the game and i was like i don’t know how i got here and i don’t know what i’m doing lmao

  • @StrikeMachine
    @StrikeMachine 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro that diamond one lobby is mister consistant than the champ one lobbies that i am placed in, i cant get out of champ into gc cuz the ranks being scuffed and just randomness of teammates and gameplay

  • @EmirGD8
    @EmirGD8 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Starting a diamond game feels like running a slot machine, you never know what's gonna happen

  • @samgrange4263
    @samgrange4263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I stick by the idea that they should curate a new rank between diamond and champ. Also a top 100 for the very best. Hopefully would spread the player base a bit more

  • @R0bnaldooo
    @R0bnaldooo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Diamond is like unranked at the very start of a season

  • @sumseldusel8176
    @sumseldusel8176 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Diamond 3, that is the problem: too many players that have no gamesense or just basically overcommit some good mates but then the guys that only focus on mechanics and try to go for a ceiling reset musty doupletap in every play. I have really focussed on gamesense and mechanics and when I’m getting ranked down from champ because of the seasonstart I’m not even getting a chance to hit it again. Aswell because of that there are so many champs in diamond and we just basically downrank eachother again and again -> so we’re hardstuck champ players in diamond lobbys
    @CBellRL

  • @Sizzyl
    @Sizzyl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i've been diamond in overwatch 2 for awhile and this is not similar to my overwatch experience

  • @SandiegoBmxers
    @SandiegoBmxers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think they just made diamond way easier to achieve ever since free to play, like its the average player rank, i got a lot of friends who play rocket league and almost every single one of them is diamond with the exception of 2 gc’s, i kid you not my friends in diamond told me theyve never heard of a half flip, cant fast aerial, never heard of a wave dash, lose any bit of control when coming off the wall, cant even start a dribble nevermind carry it, they lack all basic skills i began learning in low plat back in the day..free to play ruined rank distribution

  • @carlparisi9749
    @carlparisi9749 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    D2 vs D3 speed is wildly different. I’m C1 but play with a buddy who is D1. He can keep up in D2 but high D3 he’s getting dusted regularly

  • @wilfred309
    @wilfred309 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like a typical bell cuve to me. That the average Rocket League player is in the Diamond ranks, like myself. Which isn't surprising.

  • @sergeantcranky7471
    @sergeantcranky7471 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    two words: DAMN RIGHT!
    it is all over the place. so many different playstyles and skills mixed in a chaotic 5minute blender of a game. You have no clue who wins until the end screen. The Diamond experience.
    Enjoy a High five fellas

  • @polek7288
    @polek7288 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Champ is where the real fuckery starts. In champ 3, nearly every opponent I face is a ex GC

  • @YouthoughtIwaslying
    @YouthoughtIwaslying 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    C1 peak and I’m down to Plat 3, I don’t even want to play anymore. THERES TOO MANY DIAMONDS

  • @Slootdog
    @Slootdog 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    diamond is hilarious. one game you get a tm8 who can flip reset and double touch and then the very next game a tm8 who cant even aerial. ranked is a complete disaster.

  • @Bloodshock230
    @Bloodshock230 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hardstuck d3 div 4 used to be just over 1150mmr, now im dealing with tm8s who miss the ball once and leave! like whyyyyyy

  • @najsbajsmedmajs
    @najsbajsmedmajs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    35% of the players aren't diamond, 35% of the players using stat trackers are diamond. Most people in the lower ranks don't use stat trackers, so the average rank among users is going to be skewed. Last season the real percent was 28%.

  • @CMichaelRhoades
    @CMichaelRhoades 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @CBellRL... not sure if anyone touched on this but you should see the BELL curve that RL shows... and because it is a specific skill to play versus portable to other games, Valorum and others will have a higher ability to get good which means more of the competition skills transferred from other FPSs will cause the Bell to peak in the lower levels... this also doesn't show how some folks will cross between FPS games, where in RL you have to stay in it ALONE to keep those skills up... so naturally the Bell curve will be more symmetrical... thoughts?
    CBELL-CURVE!

    • @CMichaelRhoades
      @CMichaelRhoades 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To add... because of FPS ease to transfer skills, the pack of good competition will be on the left end of that curve due to the sheer #s duking it out lower, slowing the rise to the higher levels. So in a sense it's relative to game type vs just because they have similar rank styles?

  • @GHOSTlightFN
    @GHOSTlightFN 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m also dimond, it is definitely wierd, sometimes there are god like players, and sometimes they act like a bronze

  • @punishr2.
    @punishr2. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey cbell! It's Punisherisaac2 from the broken rank system vid! I know you said to tell you when I'm gc again...well I'm actually on my way to gc2 😄😄😄 1535 rn!

  • @tristonodom6177
    @tristonodom6177 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should watch a D2 threes game. That’s where it’s super back and forth

  • @ron3940
    @ron3940 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i play maybe twice a week with some pals and were all diamonds in 3s, one friend is miles better than us other two because he does practice in FP sometimes, we dont. However none on us really weigh the group down in anyway we all have our moments.

  • @fabreasy304
    @fabreasy304 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The diamond 2s mechanics looked just like mine. But I’m champ 2. And the D3 just free playing a breezi.. I’ve never hit one.

  • @1WithTheDark
    @1WithTheDark 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 2nd kid was a Canadian ya no for sure! XD Also my plat games look like these XD (they all have diamond tags but who knows lol)

  • @jacksonmagas9698
    @jacksonmagas9698 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was really impressed by the diamond 1 gameplay, then I realized that I had the video at 2x speed and it just looked like normal low gc gameplay.

  • @HalfaSpoon
    @HalfaSpoon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im an ex-gc(2 seasons before f2p until about a year ago) and these diamonds can speedflip, flip reset, ect). Ive never done ANY of that, and can still hold in low c3 after barely playing for the past 6 months. No idea what that means but yeah.

  • @louisvandenbush7181
    @louisvandenbush7181 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For real, my meachs don't exist but somehow I am low-mid diamond and have even topped out at D3. It makes no sense sometimes.

  • @ibje01
    @ibje01 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The basics of diamond is just "what a save" or "ff you litle noob".Im always nice to ppl and i don't get it back even a "thanks" when i say nice shot is to much for people to do.

    • @Nubbarem
      @Nubbarem 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      if you are that one type that they get offended for not saying thanks, you are being part of the problem too, i turn off fast chat because no one use it to be "nice"

  • @gone.fishin9039
    @gone.fishin9039 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone stuck middle diamond, i feel diamond is fair for me. Whats unfair is the amount of smurfs and ex gc players in diamond. But then once you get annihilated by them, next game is against people who you have absolutely no idea how they got to diamond. Like, really really bad players. And its a cycle back and forth like this so you never move up. I feel my diamond rank is deserved. Im not unrealistic and think i should be higher, but there shouldnt so many people in diamond.. i thought as skill level and rank went up the playerbase for each rank was smaller and the skill gap got larger.. fix ranked rocket league..

  • @manbeerpigs16
    @manbeerpigs16 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ranked is weird. I almost don't want to play but im addicted. Usually end up playing knowing full well it won't be fun or enjoyable.
    Wish things were different but meh. Playing in Diamond is more like gambling. Your skill will impact the outcome but whether or not you get the smurfs/solid teamates usually determines who wins.

  • @ekvg
    @ekvg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ive only reached diamond 1 for the firsdt time this season, ofc in 2s like what else would it be in. and the diamond 1 game feels right, feels like my average opponets just the guy we spactated in d1 was a fair bit more skillful. but it pretty much sums up diamond

  • @RaichuAM
    @RaichuAM 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been stuck diamond for 6 seasons since season 8 and have only been champ in tourney for 2 seasons in a row (previous two) and from playing every which range of players its really inconsistent and people who play inconsistenly like myself will never hit champ without a massive boost in wins in actual ranked and i actually had versus someone who was gold peaked last season to now he's GC in rumble but still gold in everything else the boosting problem has gotten worse over the years tbh.

  • @TehAnimationSparxx
    @TehAnimationSparxx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i've been high D3 for a bit now and Diamond is a mess. I'd be D1-2 if I didn't queue with my friend and did solo Q instead.

  • @assafna
    @assafna 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    stuck on d1 for the past few months, a little bit up, a little bit down, something is broken

  • @darkest_thief
    @darkest_thief 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean it makes since plats were 40% of players at one point these players all got better moved a rank or two up while champs who stopped play moved 1 to 2 down and that makes the diamonds we see

  • @drewslu6445
    @drewslu6445 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah I knew I wasn’t getting worse. I kept ranking down then going up and I realized that I was legit just getting unfair matchups. I know everybody says it but I literally have screenshots of SSL tournament winners from just a few seasons ago going against me.

  • @BigDave445
    @BigDave445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m D3, sometimes I play like I’m in low diamond- plat, and other days I can almost play like a high chanp

  • @jacobprickett2282
    @jacobprickett2282 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    there’s a huge difference in diamond now than a year ago a year ago i was d2 and could barley aireal and now i’m d1 and can airdribble very consistently i can flick and i have good rotates

  • @evilgenius50131
    @evilgenius50131 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    me and my boy just hit diamond 1 together in 2s and we’ve hit plat 1 in 1s. we play champ players in CASUAL 2s. it makes no sense. also, any tips for advancing to high diamond?

  • @KittyFoxKitsune
    @KittyFoxKitsune 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow, i wonder why its so hard to get out of plat, its almost like every game is a diamond game and tons of champs are "hardstuck" in diamond i guess...
    RL's smurfing problem is somewhat out of hand.

  • @MrDisaster25
    @MrDisaster25 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Diamond in EU oh man... I can't go back, the things I have seen... I am Champion 2 currently but even with huge gamesense and mechanical improvement since S10, the C2 lobbies are so much harder now...

  • @MatehovenOfficial
    @MatehovenOfficial 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm d2 and even within my own rank, the skill level is so inconsistent, it's actually wild

  • @apj-_-3562
    @apj-_-3562 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brooo cbell do this with champs omg the difference there is sooo crazy i bet the hardstuck c1 will beat the c3 player its insane

  • @logemi9864
    @logemi9864 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that skill rating distribution on rltracker is not really that accurate iirc, psyonix releases the official distribution at the end of every season and last season it was around 21% of all players being diamond on 2v2s

  • @someguy12901
    @someguy12901 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alternative beginning to the video: "I saw a not-so-fun fact the other day-"

  • @Cosmicaura7ongipromis
    @Cosmicaura7ongipromis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am C1 to C2 in 2s and I'm so surprised at how good these diamonds are.
    The diamond 2 game looked like a game that I'd play in mid champ 1 and the diamond 3 game looked like a champ 2 game for me. They definitely have better mechs than me as well as I cannot breezi or even musty yet. To me, this is a problem by epic. They need more even rank distribution with more people in bronze and then everyone trickled to their actual level.
    As for the problem of smurfs, that problem is always going to exist and it is never going to be feasible to try to ban them.
    (Also can someone 1v1 me, I am EU and diamond 2 in 1s)

  • @frozenduck74
    @frozenduck74 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    diamond is like every rank combined, i be getting people who should be in gc in diamond

  • @BeatByATaLi
    @BeatByATaLi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a D2, Diamond is just chaos and I love it. Best Rank.

  • @timelaps6770
    @timelaps6770 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just did D2 -> P2 in two sessions because idk. I saw no change in player level.

  • @shawnwalsh2060
    @shawnwalsh2060 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like half of us have good game sense and bad mech, and the other have has good mech and bad game sense, and were all stuck with each other because of it lol.

  • @i-am-mercurial
    @i-am-mercurial 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    'Mike Oxmall' 😂😂😂

  • @tempo634
    @tempo634 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Diamond is like the central hub of rocket league

  • @Lets.Roll.
    @Lets.Roll. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just dropped to D3 for the first time in 2 years and thought "no worries just some bad luck"
    20 games later im still in D3..

  • @archipel2605
    @archipel2605 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    on US servers its more Controlled but the speed is way lower as on EU servers

  • @texxrl
    @texxrl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    guess I know what I gotta train above all else, consistency

  • @ObsessionTheCat
    @ObsessionTheCat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you would put all these three clips and said what rank, it could be anything from platinium to low champ as you can get any type of game at any level. I know this as I got two accounts that are totally different level on ranked, but allmost identical in casual. Currently I get way better games on casual than on ranked. With special modes it's even worse and allover the place. Whatever level player can be at any level possible. I hope psyonix has some ideas how to fix unbalanced games on next season. Last two has been really pain in ranked and really doesn't feel like playing as it's hard to find good balanced games.

  • @IDLExCAT
    @IDLExCAT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Diamond 3 2s is usually pretty sweaty. Diamond 3 3s is accurate to what you watched.

  • @CryptoCookie82
    @CryptoCookie82 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OCE Champ is horrendous. POP makes it highly volitile.

  • @ek4022
    @ek4022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely not a representation of what I'm going through. 7 games (currently d3) I'll have the other team practically passing the ball to each other in the air the whole game doing smurf bs. Lose 7 in a row, then play equivalent of a gold 2 team. Then commence the smurf hell for another 8 games until I'm Diamond 1 plat 3

  • @ivoryphoenix3775
    @ivoryphoenix3775 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish i was the d3 in this video cause my games r jus not the same everytime like i can get a tm8 that knows when to challenge has perfect shooting,arial,and positioning than next game i get a tm8 thats literally new to the game like they NEED to have skill based matchmaking

  • @exramijuniorexramijunior4640
    @exramijuniorexramijunior4640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been going between d3 and c1 and all these players have better mechanics then me… atleast at times, I’m just super inconsistent

  • @yoursocksuntied6159
    @yoursocksuntied6159 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was in diamond for the past year and the range of skill was insane. The smurfing was TERRIBLE as well

  • @SizzlingSausag3
    @SizzlingSausag3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +662

    10:50 Champ goal explosion, this sums up Diamond 3💀

    • @treyplaybasslandis250
      @treyplaybasslandis250 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Make this the top comment!

    • @josh0147
      @josh0147 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      Doesn’t really mean a whole lot though, get loads of gc tags in champ, it’s just their peak I was gc1 but now I bounce between c2 and c3

    • @BlueMania
      @BlueMania 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ive seen gc's in d3 @@josh0147

    • @SimplyTiffany2009
      @SimplyTiffany2009 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      yeah soo many washed champs with that same explo are in even d2

    • @VoidLantadd
      @VoidLantadd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I was a Champ before the "big reset" of season 11. Now I'm stuck D2 and D3 depending on the day. I'm one of those people with champ rewards in diamond.

  • @TheShaman572
    @TheShaman572 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +187

    I climbed from D1 to D3 in one night. Then fell back to D2 Division 1 the next night.
    Diamond is the epitome of inconsistency in RL. You’ll see plat mistakes mixed with champ highlights and often by the same players lmao

    • @EmirGD8
      @EmirGD8 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm guilty of that as well

    • @danielward7849
      @danielward7849 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same omg

    • @MrEagorath
      @MrEagorath 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      nahnah, you'll meet gold mistakes and you will see GC highlight with cross map dribbles and double flip resets..
      diamond is the epitome of "boosted players to bad to be boosted higher, diamond inconsistency, washed champs, hardstuck should've been champs and gc's that wants an ego boost".. the latter one being a pretty standard 2/10 games lately.

    • @Goated_RL-rc8se
      @Goated_RL-rc8se 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @TheShaman572 I’m literally did THE EXACT same thing as you I went from d1 to d3 then back down to d2 div 1 mostly because of my tm8 and Smurfs 😢

    • @niknik2685
      @niknik2685 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I can hit/save like a champ 1 min then 10 seconds later wiff like a bronze 😂😂😂

  • @Bingusrl
    @Bingusrl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +255

    Most people quit at diamond bc they get bored but I stayed

    • @createdbybrazilian
      @createdbybrazilian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same!

    • @ManagedPan1k
      @ManagedPan1k 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I never quit but im now plat 1 because i stopped trying. Playing to win these days is completely useless. Maybe i am seeing myself out.

    • @Kesak450r
      @Kesak450r 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I peaked c1d3 and destroyed my controller so i quit

    • @wilbertvanvulpen9553
      @wilbertvanvulpen9553 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I quitted after i reached c1 in 2s

    • @husaamasam5827
      @husaamasam5827 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I quit at chanp

  • @MovieGasm
    @MovieGasm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    The real question is… how many are currently active?

    • @baltasharry1863
      @baltasharry1863 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What are you doing here?

    • @Zenikai_
      @Zenikai_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      uuugggghhh

    • @SimplyTiffany2009
      @SimplyTiffany2009 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      those stats are literally for this current season... so yes active within the last 3 months. everyone who got to the 10 diamond wins is apart of it

    • @Ghutcheson14
      @Ghutcheson14 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      RL tracker only tracks players who have been looked up before on the site. You can look up Psyonix rank distributions shortly after each season. Last season champ and above was only about 6% of the players, Diamond made up 21% of the 2s player base.
      Diamonds when people start to care so that's why there's more of them than ever that show up on RL Tracker. They wanna see how they stack up. Champs have almost certainly looked themselves up or been looked up by a curious Diamond player. I doubt there's a GC or above who hasn't been tagged on there. On their distribution it also shows ~20% of players in champ or above, which is inconsistent with Psyonix.
      Using both of those statements, Diamond and above was top 27% from Psyonix's official distribution, but around 55% of people on RL tracker. This means theres a higher density of RL tracker players in high ranks, High ranks play more, have a higher chance of being on RL tracker, and they're more active. It fades out a lot of the lower ranks who:
      a) don't know what RL Tracker is or care enough
      b) haven't been looked up either out of curiosity,, by luck or because they're unremarkable
      This 35% number represents 35% of the "truer" fans of Rocket League who have also played in the last few seasons, inactives wouldn't count. When you think that diamonds are 21 of that top 27 percent of players from the Psyonix distribution, its kind of sad to say, but they're the bottom 78 percent or so of the "decent or above" player base. It sounds even more cramped when put that way, but many people would agree.

    • @DARK-N00B
      @DARK-N00B 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      every single one is still active its from this season placements

  • @nurbo219
    @nurbo219 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    "'I've touched my controller more than my wife" Now that's a true RL player right there xd

    • @SA80TAGE
      @SA80TAGE 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      nah thats just the average gamer.

    • @Keksnwneen
      @Keksnwneen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      A real rl player does not have a wife

    • @ramongarcia8565
      @ramongarcia8565 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      What is a wife?

    • @GregoryGarciaPipipi
      @GregoryGarciaPipipi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ramongarcia8565 A new bundle coming next season!

  • @kongzlla
    @kongzlla 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Diamond is such a weird rank. You get a lot of displaced champs who got fucked by the rank reset, smurfs(Its both an excuse and not an excuse) and players that polarise each other, rlly badly.

    • @BlueSteel86
      @BlueSteel86 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There is no rank resets any longer. The whole placement matches at the start of each season are superficial. Your MMR is the exact same in the background and goes up and down the exact same.

    • @kongzlla
      @kongzlla 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait srsly? Oh thank goooood now I don't have to cry when getting clipped by gcs

    • @avuci
      @avuci 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Champ is even worse. I was c3 div 4 and now I'm c2 div 2

  • @thealiagator111
    @thealiagator111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    The problem with Diamond is that you've got some people with 50s like Fireburner and mechanics like Little Timmy and other guys with Firstkiller mechanics but the gamesense of a literal rock

    • @unboxing_legend7708
      @unboxing_legend7708 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      when you learn how to actually defend like i do in diamond, u can counter freestylers and lredoct redirections and clear it with lettle effort. ppl in diamond arnt patient so they tend to get in the way of clearing it but when they arnt, its quite easy. if i cant clear, ill block it for the tm8s or to counter, leave it and rotate back or back up preparing for a better counter. the main pain is cowards who have to demo to get goals. they know ur too good in defense so they go for bumps and demos just to be able to get goals another example of wannabes with no skill who are scared of u as a player as they know that u could probally solo them as u no what ur doing. ive actually solod from a 3 down match and won because ik how to counter groups of people solo on games, i learned how to do so. im better as a solo anyway.

  • @dfb1125
    @dfb1125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    I have around 3 -5k hours. I was up to gc in a few types. A few games from my gc rewards about 3 years ago. I took a break after not getting it because I didn't want to grind back up. I kept mid to high champ for quite a while and then moved. When I started playing again after about 6 month or so I was around d2. I haven't been into champ since. I played with a friend who was gc2 or gc3. And we were still losing games in d3. I have played solo and I'm still getting matched against people that have gc titles and carry a lobby by 400 or more points. It's too the point where I'd rather play something else.
    I sure hope I can get another car pack though. Maybe another 20 dollar white fennec or a football team for my car. Or better yet! Maybe I can have them take away another key feature like trading. Maybe take my boost trails or the jumping feature.

    • @pookznl
      @pookznl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I feel you bro.

    • @Jojo-bj1gs
      @Jojo-bj1gs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cap god no one that deserves gc drops back to d3 and no gc2/gc3 loses in diamond

    • @dragonplayer55
      @dragonplayer55 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jojo-bj1gs I think what happened is that the algo is making them play against other champ 3 or champ 2 or something, or the oc is just lying cuz if youre gc u will still play like a gc no matter what lower rank u go to

    • @Keksnwneen
      @Keksnwneen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Skill issue

    • @dfb1125
      @dfb1125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Remember the parts where I said I took multiple month breaks multiple times? And I only play a few times a week now for an hour or so each time. I was in gc 3 years ago and have probably only put another 200 or 300 hours in since then. I don't train and I rarely solo q anymore. And I quite literally played with the gc2/gc3 guy with another former c2 in a d3/c1 lobby and lost a few games.
      I don't have shit to prove to internet people. I'll be the first to say I can't musty or reset or whatever. I'm just vocalizing what my fairly experience has been. Started playing in 2016. Got rewards for pretty much every season up until around season 13 or 14 prior to the wiped reset.
      Sometimes you don't have to believe things for them to be true. They are just are.

  • @Owencatalano
    @Owencatalano 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Diamond is so diverse lol, I'm diamond one and one game you can be playing one of the sweatiest matches of your career versus people who deserve to be champ and the game ends up going 4 minutes into overtime, and then the next game is slow as molasses and you're playing with kids who belong in plat 2, it really sucks because you just never know what to expect.

  • @keipra
    @keipra 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I'm a D3/C1 player right now in 2s. There's a pretty high variability in what people are capable of game to game. I see it in both myself and the other players in the game. Some games will have people casually hitting flip resets. Other games have players that can't seem to clear the ball off the backboard. Sometimes games start off with an amazing opponent and then I win. Sometimes I start out dominating and then lose. Overall, the average game is average. My rank is fairly stable (trending slowly upward over months). I usually go pretty even, maybe up or down a few games in a session. Sometimes I go down really badly, but then I get it back without much trouble.
    I'd totally agree that consistency (or lack thereof) defines diamond pretty well. As you observed, these guys all kind of have some advanced mechs in their pockets. The diamond experience is one of constantly limit testing and pushing yourself. However, unlike a GC+ level player who probably just does a less ideal version of a mechanic when limit testing, diamonds fail hard during limit testing as we're still in the pass/fail state of mastery for many mechanics.
    I imagine I could probably rank up a bit more in the short term by playing very reserved and safe, but I'm not sure if that really serves me in the long run. Obviously I should always strive to play smarter and safer, but you also have to try to stretch sometimes too.
    Also that's an interesting observation that the player distribution is so skewed toward diamond.

    • @muskratgg
      @muskratgg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're a diamond/c1 player who's gunning for the pro scene? Bubble players are those that are on the edge of RLCS / near pro level but not signed..

    • @keipra
      @keipra 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@muskratggnah just meant I’m straddling those ranks. But that’s wrong/misleading so I’ll edit 👍

    • @dani5k571
      @dani5k571 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@keipra champ is just diamond as you describe it, but a bit more consistent and depending on if your teammates fit to you or nah. It's definetly more fun tho than diamond.

  • @scottbaileymsc
    @scottbaileymsc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    There’s a lot of boosters in diamond that are boosting people up to get the champ rewards which might be part of the problem. Once they get the rewards and start coming back down the ranks it ends up a mess. Half of the people in diamond probably don’t play that much with the last few seasons being so bad. Almost every team that you come across that is partied up has a Smurf carrying. The amount of golds and low plats that dominate the lobbies in 3s is ridiculous and they have team mates that are all kitted out in champ gear with the tournament title that can’t even hit the ball unless it’s into their own net. I keep getting the champs on my team while the other team gets the s13 gold tournament winner that is somehow already in diamond

    • @queasyclipsrl
      @queasyclipsrl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same with chanp

    • @Nicolas-gt9qf
      @Nicolas-gt9qf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      very accurate

    • @patrickmcgowan1068
      @patrickmcgowan1068 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Makes no sense does it

    • @Likver
      @Likver 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      tournament ranking has nothing to do with comp ranking, u can be gc tournament winner and be a champ 2 in comp, same with gold tournament winner, where u can be higher or lower ranked in comp

    • @soccernicholas6
      @soccernicholas6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      my friend has carried me to diamond 3 but he has never been higher than champ 1 div 2 but I respectfully deserve plat 2

  • @shopen6
    @shopen6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Diamond started to become a hangout place for plats and champions. Im stuck in d2 jumping between d1 and d3 and its the most annoying experience ever because only 1/5 of my games looks like diamonds

    • @SimplyTiffany2009
      @SimplyTiffany2009 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      last week i was d3 and a little in champ this week im d2 div 2. its been like this all season, i go up then i go down and repeat. I have 7 champ wins and i need 3 more for the rewards lol. i wont ever use it if i got it but still 😂

    • @shopen6
      @shopen6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SimplyTiffany2009yeah the amount of people i've seen with champion s13 tournament winner is insane and also the other spectrum s13 plat/gold winner

    • @davidlaforet-sj6gl
      @davidlaforet-sj6gl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      every rank is like this. maybe excluding gc3 ssl because it’s bad perfection at that point. some games feel slower then others they feel like ur tm8 belongs 3 ranks down thats just how gaming is. i’m about to hit gc2 and i still get games like this. but accusing a smurf bc u lost a game or it felt faster etc is not going to help you rank up. look at the reply look at what you could have done differently if you truly think it was check the mmr do some research on the supposed smurf and report the player

    • @NoMercY_N_M
      @NoMercY_N_M 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dropped from c2 to d3 in one night,

    • @shopen6
      @shopen6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidlaforet-sj6gl where did i say i accused someone of smurfing? You also won't understand what i said in the comment if you're not in diamond/champion rank and also i didn't ask for advice on ranking up as i don't even play rocket league anymore lol