I love how there is a full 8 seconds of hushed, reverential silence after the last note dies away, & before the applause begins. That pretty much says it all about how awesome this piece is. And as for why we don't get to hear it more often, I think the score shows us the evidence: (1) The piano writing is highly virtuosic in its demands: fast moving thick chords (think Rakhmaninov's 3rd piano concerto), wide-spread arpeggios, & plenty of ployrtyhmns (as if the constantly shifting time signature were not challenge enough). (2) There are passages where the players are even playing in different time signatures. Example: around 8 min 43 sec, the 1st 2 violins start playing in 5-4 while the viola, cello, & piano are still playing in 4-4. And then around 8 min 44 sec the time signatures switch between the parts. That simply cannot be easy to practice in rehearsals. Thank you madlovba3 for your painstaking work to upload the score. Your efforts are highly appreciated. And of course thanks to the composer's son, Severro Ornstein, for very generously waiving copyright restrictions on the distribution of his late father's music. (You can find LOTS of Ornstein at www.imslp.org.)
+javiertw89 The first time I heard this piece I genuinely was tearing up by the ending... it's one of the most perfect and (as you said) sublime endings in all of music, and without a doubt one of the most affecting.
Woah... Scott's sister Lara went to school with my daughter when they were in elementary school..and Doug and i were at the Fac of Music at Uof T...I must contact them. What a great piece and fine interpretation.
I'm gonna see him perform this live in New York! So excited! My all time favorite pianist performing my all time favorite work by one of my all time favorite composers? Dream come true.
Such a wonderful movement and such a quintet! I hear easily the old Yiddish dance music of a classic Jewish wedding, the freilakhs especially and here and here aa hint of a kazatzke. Ornstein had once planned to open in Montreal a Yiddish Musi school and surely this piece and some aspects of his piano concerto display a very clear absorption of Yiddish folk music, not just klezmer but the general folk dance and songs. This is what I call Musical Yiddish modernism. It was lost with everything else in the Holocaust. But Ornstein may be the best of the Yiddish modernist composers from before 1939. He was misunderstood in his time and slowly is revived. But his very Jewish roots are totally forgotten but I am pointing out that this third movement is loaded with Yiddish rhythms and the minors are totally in the Jewish stye and related to the Hejazi in Arabic music. A world that was.
Incredible mvt ... listen thoroughly in the car is even better! Strongly recording with the Pacifica Quartet for this quintet is more known to the public ...
That recording won't be for a while as far as I know (his next albums are gonna be a Busoni set, Debussy and selection of Mozart Sonatas), but it's definitely something to look forward to! Have a nice concert, let us know how it was! :) You know, I am too anxious because he will be playing this Quintet in London as well on 1 April, and I'm gonna turn his pages... I can only hope he doesn't use this 260-page edition, but well, it's worth it anyway! :)
Quel chef d'oeuvre!!!! plus je l'écoute depuis des années plus je l'aime ce quintette et ce mouvement en particulier! Apres la tournée avec le quatuor Pacifica, vivement qu'ils le gravent sur cd! vivement que ce quintette de Ornstein soit plus connu et qu'il soit plus joué en concert et dans les conservatoires meme si il est difficile, il est tellement beau!
@ctfamily40 It's astonishing, isn't it? :) I'm glad you started Ornstein with this piece - this is the perfect piece to get acquainted with such an interesting genius.
Leo Ornstein lived in three centuries. In the days of piano rolls he recorded romantic period piano works with large amounts of nineteenth century piano interpretative devices !!!
Oh my god, I am so jealous. And I had been wondering if he performed it from memory, so I'm glad to know that he does still us the sheets. I was thinking that my memorization skills would never be able to pull something like that off. I'll be sure to tell you how the New York concert compares. Thanks for uploading these wonderful pieces.
Soon cd recording of this sublime quintet Ornstein with the Pacifica Quartet! Whaou!! Before that, two cds sonata by Mozart, cd Schumann- Janacek (Sur un sentier recouvert) ... Hamelin should also record his "Quintett Passacaglia" ...
@chizchizchiz You're very welcome, I'm glad you like my videos! As far as I'm concerned, this is my favourite piano quintet ever written - it's so fierce, reckless and beautiful, fantastically thrilling from the first to the last note. I just cannot understand why it is so neglected, it's much more accessible than Ornstein's other works (such as his Wild Men's Dance, which is, for first time, pretty much the aural equivalent of being hit with a brick).
I am most anxious to hear this piece in San Francisco on 11 Nov, 2013. It will be performed by Hamelin with the Pacifica String Quartet. They will go on to record this on Hyperion after the performance tour.
@chizchizchiz I'm not very familiar with that Sonata, to be honest! But I've heard it is good and very accessible. I don't think most of his works would be so much under lock and key, actually - his Suicide in an Airplane, for instance, very brutal though it is, is very moving and highly expressive. Quite the same case with Poems of 1917 and the Debussian Arabesques. Of course, it takes some time to get use to his style what "makes Bartok seem conventional", but it's fully worthy I believe.
Fine fine stuff. I heard mostly the first violin and the piano; the cello occasionally. the other strings almost not at all. Nevertheless thanks for the upload. Gretings from East Anglia in England.
@tomekkobialka Oh, I see. But in the first movement, on the other hand, the piano is being suppressed by the strings I believe! I would be grateful if you could equate them somehow :)
@madlovba3 The mid-frequencies on this track sound really loud, IMO. You can barely hear the cellos because of the piano. I think if I try to lower those mid-frequencies a bit the track will sound less 'in-your-ear'. :)
Leo Ornstein's son Severo is still alive. He has a TH-cam Channel with a lot of Leo Ornstein's music.
I love how there is a full 8 seconds of hushed, reverential silence after the last note dies away, & before the applause begins. That pretty much says it all about how awesome this piece is.
And as for why we don't get to hear it more often, I think the score shows us the evidence:
(1) The piano writing is highly virtuosic in its demands: fast moving thick chords (think Rakhmaninov's 3rd piano concerto), wide-spread arpeggios, & plenty of ployrtyhmns (as if the constantly shifting time signature were not challenge enough).
(2) There are passages where the players are even playing in different time signatures. Example: around 8 min 43 sec, the 1st 2 violins start playing in 5-4 while the viola, cello, & piano are still playing in 4-4. And then around 8 min 44 sec the time signatures switch between the parts. That simply cannot be easy to practice in rehearsals.
Thank you madlovba3 for your painstaking work to upload the score. Your efforts are highly appreciated. And of course thanks to the composer's son, Severro Ornstein, for very generously waiving copyright restrictions on the distribution of his late father's music. (You can find LOTS of Ornstein at www.imslp.org.)
There are no words to describe the impact of the ending
"Hat's off, Gentlemen, a Genius." --R. Schumann
That ending... Sublime.
+javiertw89 The first time I heard this piece I genuinely was tearing up by the ending... it's one of the most perfect and (as you said) sublime endings in all of music, and without a doubt one of the most affecting.
Woah... Scott's sister Lara went to school with my daughter when they were in elementary school..and Doug and i were at the Fac of Music at Uof T...I must contact them. What a great piece and fine interpretation.
I'm gonna see him perform this live in New York! So excited! My all time favorite pianist performing my all time favorite work by one of my all time favorite composers? Dream come true.
One of the most powerful pieces of chamber music I've ever heard.
astonishing music!, i'm covered in goosebumps, what I wouldn't do to see Emerson Quartet play this live!
Such a wonderful movement and such a quintet! I hear easily the old Yiddish dance music of a classic Jewish wedding, the freilakhs especially and here and here aa hint of a kazatzke. Ornstein had once planned to open in Montreal a Yiddish Musi school and surely this piece and some aspects of his piano concerto display a very clear absorption of Yiddish folk music, not just klezmer but the general folk dance and songs. This is what I call Musical Yiddish modernism. It was lost with everything else in the Holocaust. But Ornstein may be the best of the Yiddish modernist composers from before 1939. He was misunderstood in his time and slowly is revived. But his very Jewish roots are totally forgotten but I am pointing out that this third movement is loaded with Yiddish rhythms and the minors are totally in the Jewish stye and related to the Hejazi in Arabic music. A world that was.
this knocked me off my feet...
Incredible mvt ... listen thoroughly in the car is even better!
Strongly recording with the Pacifica Quartet for this quintet is more known to the public ...
That recording won't be for a while as far as I know (his next albums are gonna be a Busoni set, Debussy and selection of Mozart Sonatas), but it's definitely something to look forward to! Have a nice concert, let us know how it was! :) You know, I am too anxious because he will be playing this Quintet in London as well on 1 April, and I'm gonna turn his pages... I can only hope he doesn't use this 260-page edition, but well, it's worth it anyway! :)
6:23! This is such an amazing piece- I can't believe I hadn't heard of Ornstein before this.
6:23
Quel chef d'oeuvre!!!! plus je l'écoute depuis des années plus je l'aime ce quintette et ce mouvement en particulier!
Apres la tournée avec le quatuor Pacifica, vivement qu'ils le gravent sur cd!
vivement que ce quintette de Ornstein soit plus connu et qu'il soit plus joué en concert et dans les conservatoires meme si il est difficile, il est tellement beau!
@ctfamily40 It's astonishing, isn't it? :) I'm glad you started Ornstein with this piece - this is the perfect piece to get acquainted with such an interesting genius.
Wow!!!!
Simply great!
3:22, pure terror!
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@@lucaslorentz thanks!
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this is so barbaric! LOVE IT!! :-)))
This is such an amazing work! I thought I didn't like Ornstein but wow, I loved this piece! Thank you very much for sharing it!
Truly magnificent piece!
Leo Ornstein lived in three centuries. In the days of piano rolls he recorded romantic period piano works with large amounts of nineteenth century piano interpretative devices !!!
WOW! What a stunning ending to this masterwork. Where has this piece been all these years?!
Oh my god, I am so jealous. And I had been wondering if he performed it from memory, so I'm glad to know that he does still us the sheets. I was thinking that my memorization skills would never be able to pull something like that off. I'll be sure to tell you how the New York concert compares. Thanks for uploading these wonderful pieces.
Che esecuzione! Straordinaria
Soon cd recording of this sublime quintet Ornstein with the Pacifica Quartet! Whaou!!
Before that, two cds sonata by Mozart, cd Schumann- Janacek (Sur un sentier recouvert) ...
Hamelin should also record his "Quintett Passacaglia" ...
In the interview that I did with him, he said that they would be recording it, but he didn't say when, exactly.
@chizchizchiz You're very welcome, I'm glad you like my videos! As far as I'm concerned, this is my favourite piano quintet ever written - it's so fierce, reckless and beautiful, fantastically thrilling from the first to the last note. I just cannot understand why it is so neglected, it's much more accessible than Ornstein's other works (such as his Wild Men's Dance, which is, for first time, pretty much the aural equivalent of being hit with a brick).
I am most anxious to hear this piece in San Francisco on 11 Nov, 2013. It will be performed by Hamelin with the Pacifica String Quartet. They will go on to record this on Hyperion after the performance tour.
By the way, I am really excited for you that you are going to turn pages for him at the London performance! You are one lucky dog! :)
sublime
@chizchizchiz I'm not very familiar with that Sonata, to be honest! But I've heard it is good and very accessible. I don't think most of his works would be so much under lock and key, actually - his Suicide in an Airplane, for instance, very brutal though it is, is very moving and highly expressive. Quite the same case with Poems of 1917 and the Debussian Arabesques. Of course, it takes some time to get use to his style what "makes Bartok seem conventional", but it's fully worthy I believe.
Full of curious mediterranean elements, like in the music of Paul Creston
Wonderful piece by Ornstein ,I'd like to discover more pieces like this do you have any suggestions?
Fine fine stuff.
I heard mostly the first violin and the piano; the cello occasionally. the other strings almost not at all.
Nevertheless thanks for the upload.
Gretings from East Anglia in England.
6:39 Wow! This is really awesome!
6:39
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@tomekkobialka Oh, I see. But in the first movement, on the other hand, the piano is being suppressed by the strings I believe! I would be grateful if you could equate them somehow :)
Beginning=in Arabian-exotic scale...?
And I felt Babadjanian's Piano trio 3rd movement's intense rhythm and mode...
Reminds me of Shostakovich
oahh.. Too long for me, but the ending of the piece is really GREAT!
@madlovba3 The mid-frequencies on this track sound really loud, IMO. You can barely hear the cellos because of the piano. I think if I try to lower those mid-frequencies a bit the track will sound less 'in-your-ear'. :)
@tomekkobialka Pardon me? EQ?
12:42 If two piano clefs isn't enough, why not six?
12:42
The EQ on this seems a bit off...I'll see if I can make it better somehow. :)
Fasten your seatbelts!