Amazing teaching. I’m challenged and encouraged, as an owner of 2 businesses, yet somehow reluctant to play into the “king” role. I’ll be contemplating this for a while.
Wow! Great stuff teacher Soloman! Very challenging, convicting and so true. It is so true that we cannot allow herself to compromise convictions! Thank you again brother
Good message brother! Thank you! Ephesians 4:15-16 (ESV): Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, from whom the whole body, joined and held together by every joint with which it is equipped, when each part is working properly, makes the body grow so that it builds itself up in love.
My concerns are realized by watching these videos. My wife and I are going through the BEMA series. We are on #54. I'm consistently fighting this nagging sense that Marty is heading amiss. He seems like a really good guy with a pleasant teaching style. I like his somewhat unorthodox (or even fresh) view of the Scriptures. I'm learning a lot, and we will continue to listen for now. But his progressivism clouds his theology. It's not that a proper theology leads to his politics; it's clearly an effort to merge them together by molding both sides to meet in the middle. To Marty, Empire and Shalom have no overlap. To Marty, free-market activity is a zero-sum game where it is all "building on the backs of the poor." Somehow, as we learn in #54, morality doesn't find its foundation in the nature of God, but in how it impacts people. He routinely interchanges "restorative justice" with the modern "distributive justice." If an invading army comes in and takes your one bull and your neighbor's 9 bulls, somehow restoration means God wants 5 bulls each to be restored. In his video series here, he says: "vote *for some other group, rather than yourself." Yet, he quickly and underhandedly dismisses those who might vote for the country's most vulnerable group. Einstein believed scientists make poor philosophers. Perhaps theologians make poor political scientists.
Hey Brian. I wont argue that my progressivism cloud my theology... any more than your conservatism clouds yours. This is a part of what we all wrestle with and why it’s so important that we study the Text together. I dont have the ultimate say on what is right, the Spirit dwells in us all together. While I was passionate in my presentation here, I was also very intentional about being gracious and providing lots of room for others to see it differently. I’m not bothered that you do. I am not a heavy-handed progressive teacher that is demanding adherence to my worldview (as so many of them do). I do not try to hide my perspective, but I do try to hold it with humility. And I very intentionally left room for a perspective that would see the “most vulnerable” as you do; I simply asked that we were honest about that and not simply using it to claim selflessness in the midst of selfishness. That is all. And while I wouldnt support your math on the livestock, I would support Leviticus’ lesson that a PART of restitution is paying an additional “fifth” to help restore (see Lev. 6:5). I am not trying to be a political scientist, I gladly entertain respectable conversation about the most effective ways to pursue this in a free and individualist sense or a regulated one. I make no declarations of how this should be, yet you assume to know where I stand on all these issues; most of which you got wrong about what I think. I issued a very board invitation and left room for you to interpret it in many different ways. I do NOT believe that the progressive [political] agenda holds any hope for our world; I do NOT believe the conservative [political] agenda holds any hope for our world. I do believe that both agendas have helpful things to say and that the Kingdom is prodded to operate differently. This “different way” is what I wanted to advocate for in these videos. I know they and I are imperfect. But if you and I bring our conversation to each other with more graciousness, less judgement, more curiosity and more empathy, I believe the Kingdom takes new ground.
@@coveredinhisdust , I apologize if I read too much into your comments/teachings and made incorrect assumptions about how you *think. That's the rub, though, isn't it? We often have to fill in the gaps when we cannot ask questions. My wife and I enjoy your BEMA series and want to believe we are getting an unadulterated look into the Scriptures without a political agenda being slipped-in. As you rightly point out, we can't escape how our politics cloud our theology. When you interchange "distributive justice" (which has a clear modern definition) with "restorative justice" (which I agree is a biblical principle, including the added fifth), then I have to extrapolate where you are going with this. I'm bound to get it wrong as I can't possibly know your thoughts and intents. And, as a fellow believer, a brother in Christ, I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard to do. My wife and I are continuing. We did #55 this morning. I'm working real hard to suppress jumping the gun on where I think you are heading. I try to remember that learning often requires hearing an alternative perspective. But as someone who does care for the vulnerable (not just aborted children), I find progressive political policies heinous. I think our intersectional culture is destructive and tearing Christians apart. So my passions are strong -- which can be useful in some way, but no so much in others (like giving you the benefit of the doubt). But as I'm sure you would agree, we are both works in progress. Thank you for your thoughtful response.
after listening to the podcast, chatting on the slack, and watching this video...there's only one question that i have...where can i get a chair like that? thanks for the teaching, Marty.
Amazing teaching. I’m challenged and encouraged, as an owner of 2 businesses, yet somehow reluctant to play into the “king” role.
I’ll be contemplating this for a while.
Wow! Great stuff teacher Soloman! Very challenging, convicting and so true. It is so true that we cannot allow herself to compromise convictions! Thank you again brother
Good message brother! Thank you! Ephesians 4:15-16 (ESV): Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, from whom the whole body, joined and held together by every joint with which it is equipped, when each part is working properly, makes the body grow so that it builds itself up in love.
My concerns are realized by watching these videos. My wife and I are going through the BEMA series. We are on #54. I'm consistently fighting this nagging sense that Marty is heading amiss. He seems like a really good guy with a pleasant teaching style. I like his somewhat unorthodox (or even fresh) view of the Scriptures. I'm learning a lot, and we will continue to listen for now. But his progressivism clouds his theology. It's not that a proper theology leads to his politics; it's clearly an effort to merge them together by molding both sides to meet in the middle. To Marty, Empire and Shalom have no overlap. To Marty, free-market activity is a zero-sum game where it is all "building on the backs of the poor." Somehow, as we learn in #54, morality doesn't find its foundation in the nature of God, but in how it impacts people. He routinely interchanges "restorative justice" with the modern "distributive justice." If an invading army comes in and takes your one bull and your neighbor's 9 bulls, somehow restoration means God wants 5 bulls each to be restored. In his video series here, he says: "vote *for some other group, rather than yourself." Yet, he quickly and underhandedly dismisses those who might vote for the country's most vulnerable group. Einstein believed scientists make poor philosophers. Perhaps theologians make poor political scientists.
Hey Brian. I wont argue that my progressivism cloud my theology... any more than your conservatism clouds yours. This is a part of what we all wrestle with and why it’s so important that we study the Text together. I dont have the ultimate say on what is right, the Spirit dwells in us all together. While I was passionate in my presentation here, I was also very intentional about being gracious and providing lots of room for others to see it differently. I’m not bothered that you do. I am not a heavy-handed progressive teacher that is demanding adherence to my worldview (as so many of them do). I do not try to hide my perspective, but I do try to hold it with humility. And I very intentionally left room for a perspective that would see the “most vulnerable” as you do; I simply asked that we were honest about that and not simply using it to claim selflessness in the midst of selfishness. That is all. And while I wouldnt support your math on the livestock, I would support Leviticus’ lesson that a PART of restitution is paying an additional “fifth” to help restore (see Lev. 6:5). I am not trying to be a political scientist, I gladly entertain respectable conversation about the most effective ways to pursue this in a free and individualist sense or a regulated one. I make no declarations of how this should be, yet you assume to know where I stand on all these issues; most of which you got wrong about what I think. I issued a very board invitation and left room for you to interpret it in many different ways. I do NOT believe that the progressive [political] agenda holds any hope for our world; I do NOT believe the conservative [political] agenda holds any hope for our world. I do believe that both agendas have helpful things to say and that the Kingdom is prodded to operate differently. This “different way” is what I wanted to advocate for in these videos. I know they and I are imperfect. But if you and I bring our conversation to each other with more graciousness, less judgement, more curiosity and more empathy, I believe the Kingdom takes new ground.
@@coveredinhisdust , I apologize if I read too much into your comments/teachings and made incorrect assumptions about how you *think. That's the rub, though, isn't it? We often have to fill in the gaps when we cannot ask questions. My wife and I enjoy your BEMA series and want to believe we are getting an unadulterated look into the Scriptures without a political agenda being slipped-in. As you rightly point out, we can't escape how our politics cloud our theology. When you interchange "distributive justice" (which has a clear modern definition) with "restorative justice" (which I agree is a biblical principle, including the added fifth), then I have to extrapolate where you are going with this. I'm bound to get it wrong as I can't possibly know your thoughts and intents. And, as a fellow believer, a brother in Christ, I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard to do. My wife and I are continuing. We did #55 this morning. I'm working real hard to suppress jumping the gun on where I think you are heading. I try to remember that learning often requires hearing an alternative perspective. But as someone who does care for the vulnerable (not just aborted children), I find progressive political policies heinous. I think our intersectional culture is destructive and tearing Christians apart. So my passions are strong -- which can be useful in some way, but no so much in others (like giving you the benefit of the doubt). But as I'm sure you would agree, we are both works in progress. Thank you for your thoughtful response.
after listening to the podcast, chatting on the slack, and watching this video...there's only one question that i have...where can i get a chair like that?
thanks for the teaching, Marty.
WalMart back in Bible College... I think it was $60... 😂😂😂