This is so good. I was struggling to count in triplets, 8ths, 16ths and 32s and know the difference. I can count them and change between them now. One of the most useful lessons
Quarter- and half-note triplets are actually the hardest for me. It's one thing to fit 3 evenly-spaced notes into one beat, and doubling that is just a matter of going to cut time and (say) tapping your foot half as fast. Spreading out 3 evenly-spaced notes over 2 beats is not very natural, but a big step for me as a wind-instrument performer. Back when I was playing sheet music for trumpet, by the time I really owned the chart, I was thinking in phrases a measure at a time, and it was all "1" time. Start in 4/4, go to 2/2, and finally 1/1 time. Make myself one with the chart. Now I just sing and play blues harp for fun. I can be a lot lazier training embouchure and voice, and still nail it. Can't do that on a brass instrument without insane dedication to your chops, both literally and figuratively.
@@harrymills2770 To master the quarter-note triplet, count ONE and AH-two AND ah, THREE and AH, four AND ah. That’s 3 strokes over 2 beats, and 6 strokes over 4 beats. (Also something can’t be taken both literally (word-for-word true) and figuratively (meant as a figure of speech). It’s one or the other. “My dad can’t come to the phone as he’s all tied up” means that either he’s busy or there are ropes attaching him to his chair.)
I’ve been thru countless bonham triplets. And honestly lots of good stuff out there. But your lesson inspired me and I like the methodology behind your break down. Good work brother
I'm ambidextrous, so I can use my left hand just as well as the right. For example while playing tennis, I can move the racket to my left hand, which gives me longer reach, and allows me to do forehand on either side. As a very beginner on drums, I played around and created some simple fills myself without watching any tutorials. Subconsciously I often lead the fill with my left hand, which optimises the hand travel. For example I created this: Snare LRL Tom1 RLR Tom2 LRL Floor RLR Kick + ride accent If I started this roll with the right hand, I wouldn't be able to play it as fast. Anyway I'm a noob, so still very excited and lots to learn
Thank you for your video. I am an ambidextrous drummer. I started very late in life. And I love drumming. I realized recently John Bonham leads with his right foot, and I started to do this and let everything else follow. This open up my drumming a lot. Even if I don't lead with my right foot, I internally lead with my right foot as a directional point and let everything else flow naturally. I love different rhythms. I love Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich, and John Bonham. I have a heavy hit. And my soul has been dying to set up my drums set like John Bonham. Right now I have two double kick pedals, both left and right, attached to a 1/4" piece of wood (1/4"H by 23"L by 3 1/2"W) and then my bass drum laid on top of the wood and pedals, (you can do this with a double kick pedal, either left or right, and attached a single pedal next to it, and have the double kick pedal with soft heads or hard heads, and then have the single pedal with a hard head or a soft head, and this along with the hi hat pedal adds another dimension to drumming, using a four pedal system), and my drum set goes all around me from left to right (kind of a Neil Peart thing). And it is strange how things happen in life. I've been hungering of soul to jam rhythmically like John Bonham, (I do now in some way), and with your video and along with changing up my drum set to reflect how John Bonham played, I am going to have the best time drumming. I am very grateful for your video. I thought this morning, how does John Bonham do triplets? And your video was here to help me to get exactly what I needed to be. Thank you too for the Triplet Exercise PDF at www.davejohnstone.com. I'll sign up today on your free website. With gratitude, John Silva-Henebry (Popo).
I never thought I'd be able to play this lick leading with the left hand. This exercise and the accompanying notation helped me a lot. After doing this workout for the last six months or so, I can play it left-lead pretty well, and almost as fast as right-lead. In another six months I should be able to play it as fast as right-lead. Great job and thank you!
Thanks for the triplet lesson! Yes there are many others in the interweb, but i found yours to be the most helpful. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge!
I am so glad you did the left hand lead! I have always played it this way, ... don't know why... it just felt right! But I was always surprised at how many drummers I saw play it starting with the right. To this day, I see guys starting with the right. Just doesn't have the same feel or sound. I also do a thing where I start with the left and then the right..with one hand on snare and one of floor tom.... starts to sound like a shuffle. I also do the following leads LRLL RLRR, so you get this weird paradiddle triplet thing going.
He’s leading with his left, I said right before he said it. I am an accomplished guitar player but drumming is a fond hobby of mine. I have never been taught nor have I learned any rudiments I just do what comes natural.🎸🥁🕊
yes Larry your correct in this exercise your left hand is moving round the kit as It leads,I find that as I pick up speed my right hand and the kick drop out of sink. the pattern sound better at speed so your wanting to run before you can walk!
The 4 way coordination makes this exercise harder that's why it's worth practicing...... GONNA WORK ON THIS ONE..thanks for this cheers from Drum Teacher Manila -Teacher BLue
Great demonstration and exercise Dave! I like how you keep the hat going steadily throughout the different interpretations. While this will definitely help with accuracy and tempo (especially when playing with a click,) it will also help form the feel of how the various interpretations can fit into a groove or as part of an improvised fill. You could even go a step further into overlaying the three stroke pattern into a five-tuplet, seven-tuplet or eigth-tuplet polyrhythmic thing.
When I was maybe 13yo I Heard d'yermaker on the Radio and was impressed by the drumming So I decided to become a drummer. 3 years later I gave Lessons to a little boy And thaught him to play "the Ocean" Now Im 59 yo, and I am a joiner, but the boy, now 50 yo is the Drummer who loves Bonzo...😥😥😥
I 've practiced it both ways for years .getting comfortable leading with either hand is a good thing on any fill or roll...great lesson for any level..good job ..first time watching ill look for more thank you!!
Sorry in advance: this is going to be long. They're called "Bonham Triplets" by nearly everyone who knows this lick (to me personally, Bonham represents an important standard in drumming skill and style). But, as this thread points out, they're hardly his own. Keith Moon played this type of triplet (hand-hand-kick) almost exclusively left-lead (L-R-K). That is to say that leading with the left is not a uniquely Bonham approach. It may be that this lick got popularized by Bonzo through his use of it in his extended solos and playing it distinctly in various transitions and fills, like in "Hey Hey What Can I Do." It also appears throughout Zep's first two albums. The thing is, Zep plays such a pivotal roll in the history of Rock music that many musical conventions have been attributed to them even though all they did was bring certain ideas to a new audience's attention. Finally, Moon and Bonham were hardly the only names associated with the L-R-K triplet. This lick was extremely popular during the Jazz and Swing era (for over three decades leading up to Bonham's rise) and was used extensively by the likes of Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich, just to name a few.
Ochoa cabrio Don't troll. No one said John Bonham Bonham invented the triplet. However the way he played, the sound he got, how he incorporated the lick into songs and grooves was very uniquely Bonham. No one played like him before that time, and no played like him since or will. Clearly he was influenced by great drummers before him.
I thought that it was brutal and no chance that I can make it but he shows it in easiest way.. thanks a lot Mr. thegoodfooth for sharing your great skills.
davor, this really isn't hard at all. This video makes it look easy because it really is. The best thing about it is it is totally awesome. A little bit of hard work = a whole lot of awesome
I can only manage to do these triplets at a quick pace by doing doubles on the kick. Don't use a double pedal, but fast/accurate singles with the foot in this pattern are difficult for me, oddly.
I know what you mean by trying to lead with the left as opposed to the right. That is difficult for me. I’ll work on that. Thanks for breaking it down for me. Paul.
while not Bonham specific, it can be worth your time also to work on the triplet pattern leading with the kick foot... this is great work and I like how you have made it clear that the hi hat pattern varies with the feel....
Another good thing to point out.. or what I had trouble with is hitting the drums evenly or the "bass drum" in particular to get the right sound.. it needs to sound powerful!
I've been playing this stuff for years and I love it. Exact same :) Awesome lil chop to use at many different speeds. Only thing I haven't done before is the 32nd note part. I can't even hear that one properly haha Something to work on. A cool thing I like to do is play the last group of three notes all with the hands.. so like L R K L R K L R K L R L 1 .. so your foot has rested and your left hand was last to play, so your right foot and right hand are set up to deliver a strong crash on the 1. Simple idea, but works beautifully at any speed. I would usually play those last three notes all on the floor tom as a nice way to end it. Great job and LOVE how your kit sounds, by the way.
Nice video. I've found that I can increase the possibilites by playing it both ways (RLK or LRK) but ALSO by playing it with different parts on the downbeats, or the beginnings of the triplets. It's surprising how much thinking about the beat in a different place can make the exact same movements feel so much different. To spell it out, RLK as KRL or LKR, and LRK as KLR or RKL. Thought I would share as a fellow teacher.
I think your video would be way more interesting if you spoke about what you were doing on the hi-hat and how it related to the time changes. I did enjoy the video btw.
This was the best seven minutes spent on learning something that has be elusive for decades. Thanks, excellent lesson!
Richard Haran that's great to hear, thanks!
What is elusive about this?
I play triplets then reverse the order back and forth - sounds way cooler.
If you really want cool stuff, check out Gadd.
And along comes Debbie downer
@@Joshholbrook2024 true right?
@@chrislinhares7311 gadd is awesome but remember when you first learned the basic 4/4 rock beat?
Not just another Bonham triplet video. This one was interesting and very useful.
Thank you.
I've been playing off and on for 50 years and I'm now determined to nail theses triplets. You have the best exercise I've seen yet.
This is so good. I was struggling to count in triplets, 8ths, 16ths and 32s and know the difference. I can count them and change between them now. One of the most useful lessons
Quarter- and half-note triplets are actually the hardest for me. It's one thing to fit 3 evenly-spaced notes into one beat, and doubling that is just a matter of going to cut time and (say) tapping your foot half as fast. Spreading out 3 evenly-spaced notes over 2 beats is not very natural, but a big step for me as a wind-instrument performer. Back when I was playing sheet music for trumpet, by the time I really owned the chart, I was thinking in phrases a measure at a time, and it was all "1" time. Start in 4/4, go to 2/2, and finally 1/1 time. Make myself one with the chart.
Now I just sing and play blues harp for fun. I can be a lot lazier training embouchure and voice, and still nail it. Can't do that on a brass instrument without insane dedication to your chops, both literally and figuratively.
@@harrymills2770 To master the quarter-note triplet, count ONE and AH-two AND ah, THREE and AH, four AND ah.
That’s 3 strokes over 2 beats, and 6 strokes over 4 beats.
(Also something can’t be taken both literally (word-for-word true) and figuratively (meant as a figure of speech). It’s one or the other. “My dad can’t come to the phone as he’s all tied up” means that either he’s busy or there are ropes attaching him to his chair.)
2:19 exercise starts play along
Yes, the world does need another video on his triplets. They were very innovative !
I've always had problems keeping my hihat going. This one is especially challenging.
That’s what separates the boys from the men
@@miguelsaavedrums .. Shutip
@@miguelsaavedrums It is not that hard. You put your mind to it.
I’ve been thru countless bonham triplets. And honestly lots of good stuff out there. But your lesson inspired me and I like the methodology behind your break down. Good work brother
Being able to lead with his left or right gave his rhythms a unique style that is easily recognised at Bonzo
My God those drums sound beautiful but the kick drum holy freaking moly man
Every now and then I benefit from being left handed. This is one of those times where this triplet came naturally for me.
Jusayin Same with me. It’s all cool until you have to use both hands on the hi hat and you want to naturally use your left hand on the snare though.
I'm ambidextrous, so I can use my left hand just as well as the right. For example while playing tennis, I can move the racket to my left hand, which gives me longer reach, and allows me to do forehand on either side.
As a very beginner on drums, I played around and created some simple fills myself without watching any tutorials. Subconsciously I often lead the fill with my left hand, which optimises the hand travel.
For example I created this:
Snare LRL
Tom1 RLR
Tom2 LRL
Floor RLR
Kick + ride accent
If I started this roll with the right hand, I wouldn't be able to play it as fast.
Anyway I'm a noob, so still very excited and lots to learn
Thanks teacher! Greetings from 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🤘🤘🤘
Don't anybody dare to denigrate the musicianship of good drummers! Watching this I'm amazed at the skill! Note: it ain't just banging away.
Thank you for your video. I am an ambidextrous drummer. I started very late in life. And I love drumming. I realized recently John Bonham leads with his right foot, and I started to do this and let everything else follow. This open up my drumming a lot. Even if I don't lead with my right foot, I internally lead with my right foot as a directional point and let everything else flow naturally. I love different rhythms. I love Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich, and John Bonham. I have a heavy hit. And my soul has been dying to set up my drums set like John Bonham. Right now I have two double kick pedals, both left and right, attached to a 1/4" piece of wood (1/4"H by 23"L by 3 1/2"W) and then my bass drum laid on top of the wood and pedals, (you can do this with a double kick pedal, either left or right, and attached a single pedal next to it, and have the double kick pedal with soft heads or hard heads, and then have the single pedal with a hard head or a soft head, and this along with the hi hat pedal adds another dimension to drumming, using a four pedal system), and my drum set goes all around me from left to right (kind of a Neil Peart thing). And it is strange how things happen in life. I've been hungering of soul to jam rhythmically like John Bonham, (I do now in some way), and with your video and along with changing up my drum set to reflect how John Bonham played, I am going to have the best time drumming. I am very grateful for your video. I thought this morning, how does John Bonham do triplets? And your video was here to help me to get exactly what I needed to be. Thank you too for the Triplet Exercise PDF at www.davejohnstone.com. I'll sign up today on your free website. With gratitude, John Silva-Henebry (Popo).
Never had lesson in my life til now . Learn to play by ear only . Thanks for the lesson , Bonzo is my drum god !
Thank you for the John Bonham triplets exercise, I'll be using on my arsenal of tricks
One of the coolest drum lessons on TH-cam! So awesome thank you! 😭🙌
I never thought I'd be able to play this lick leading with the left hand. This exercise and the accompanying notation helped me a lot. After doing this workout for the last six months or so, I can play it left-lead pretty well, and almost as fast as right-lead. In another six months I should be able to play it as fast as right-lead. Great job and thank you!
Vlad Kiperman that's awesome man, glad to hear it!
Thanks for the triplet lesson! Yes there are many others in the interweb, but i found yours to be the most helpful. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge!
I am so glad you did the left hand lead! I have always played it this way, ... don't know why... it just felt right! But I was always surprised at how many drummers I saw play it starting with the right. To this day, I see guys starting with the right. Just doesn't have the same feel or sound. I also do a thing where I start with the left and then the right..with one hand on snare and one of floor tom.... starts to sound like a shuffle. I also do the following leads LRLL RLRR, so you get this weird paradiddle triplet thing going.
jpritch 2 same, sometimes it feels more comfortable than leading with your right.
This nice calm modest delivery makes this a pleasure to watch and practice.
Perhaps you could have also played it in a beat context as well.
He’s leading with his left, I said right before he said it. I am an accomplished guitar player but drumming is a fond hobby of mine. I have never been taught nor have I learned any rudiments I just do what comes natural.🎸🥁🕊
Thank you, very good exercise, it is a challenge for any drummer.
Unless you are a natural lefty playing a right handed kit.
yes Larry your correct in this exercise your left hand is moving round the kit as It leads,I find that as I pick up speed my right hand and the kick drop out of sink. the pattern sound better at speed so your wanting to run before you can walk!
The 4 way coordination makes this exercise harder that's why it's worth practicing......
GONNA WORK ON THIS ONE..thanks for this
cheers from Drum Teacher Manila
-Teacher BLue
Phenomenal lessons! You’re a great teacher and drummer!
No hi-hat.
Haha, "just what the internet needs..." Thanks for the video man.
Great demonstration and exercise Dave! I like how you keep the hat going steadily throughout the different interpretations. While this will definitely help with accuracy and tempo (especially when playing with a click,) it will also help form the feel of how the various interpretations can fit into a groove or as part of an improvised fill. You could even go a step further into overlaying the three stroke pattern into a five-tuplet, seven-tuplet or eigth-tuplet polyrhythmic thing.
best one yet on Bonhams triplets- great work Dave !
Jack T thanks, glad you're digging it!
Thanks for starting really slow and making it super clear!
jaford2 Right on, thanks for watching!
That is a great practice drill. I’m gonna try this for sure as I predominantly lead right.
Thank you great exercise
agreed, this simplified alot of things holding me back, thanks
When I was maybe 13yo I Heard d'yermaker on the Radio and was impressed by the drumming
So I decided to become a drummer.
3 years later I gave Lessons to a little boy
And thaught him to play "the Ocean"
Now Im 59 yo, and I am a joiner, but the boy, now 50 yo is the Drummer who loves Bonzo...😥😥😥
Great instruction and explanation without overkill, thanks.
He learned it from listening to the great Jazz drummer Elvin Jones.
Dave, thanks a lot for your precious time to sharing with us our Bonham-triplets-obsetion.😁 You are a well-organized-teacher. 👏👍
I 've practiced it both ways for years .getting comfortable leading with either hand is a good thing on any fill or roll...great lesson for any level..good job ..first time watching ill look for more thank you!!
His opening triplets sound just like the opening to Over the Mountain by Ozzie
Lee Kerslake is a great drummer. I'm sure he was a huge Bonham fan
Congratulations! The old saying of if you can't explain it simply then you simply don't know. You explained it simply Thank you!
Great vid bro ... Thanks for putting in some serious effort. That is my favorite triplet pattern. I love Bonham. Tremendous influence... Cheers bro
Why would anyone dislike this jeez people just hate everything? This could be a helpful exercise to develop speed.. Cmon
This is a great exercise!!! Thanks for making it. My left arm is gonna get a major workout.
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can't wait to try this exercise out!
ME TOO ! I could become Bonzo in a few days but I have a geo metro and can't fit all those drums in pos tin can! :):)
one of the best presentations I've seen.
john bonham triplets, otherwise known as 'triplets'
Ha - pretty much!
otherwise known as triplets...funny!
Great. Anybody is owner of the triplets? hahaha
JB triplets cause leading with the left.
Sorry in advance: this is going to be long.
They're called "Bonham Triplets" by nearly everyone who knows this lick (to me personally, Bonham represents an important standard in drumming skill and style). But, as this thread points out, they're hardly his own. Keith Moon played this type of triplet (hand-hand-kick) almost exclusively left-lead (L-R-K). That is to say that leading with the left is not a uniquely Bonham approach.
It may be that this lick got popularized by Bonzo through his use of it in his extended solos and playing it distinctly in various transitions and fills, like in "Hey Hey What Can I Do." It also appears throughout Zep's first two albums. The thing is, Zep plays such a pivotal roll in the history of Rock music that many musical conventions have been attributed to them even though all they did was bring certain ideas to a new audience's attention. Finally, Moon and Bonham were hardly the only names associated with the L-R-K triplet. This lick was extremely popular during the Jazz and Swing era (for over three decades leading up to Bonham's rise) and was used extensively by the likes of Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich, just to name a few.
This is a fantastic lesson. Thank you for sharing. :-)
Loved it Dave. Thanks for breaking it down man!!
Very helpful! Haven’t really been able to get this going before. Thanks!
Awesome. I don't even play the drums but loved watching this
Ochoa cabrio Don't troll. No one said John Bonham Bonham invented the triplet. However the way he played, the sound he got, how he incorporated the lick into songs and grooves was very uniquely Bonham. No one played like him before that time, and no played like him since or will. Clearly he was influenced by great drummers before him.
This should be an Olympic sport.
I thought that it was brutal and no chance that I can make it but he shows it in easiest way.. thanks a lot Mr. thegoodfooth for sharing your great skills.
The rhythm method of birth control is really Bonham Triplets.
Very Cool! Thanks for sharing your tips!! Rock on Buddy
Very nice!
JUST WHAT THE DRUM WORLD NEEDS , ANOTHER MATCH GRIPPER !!!!!!!!
awesome exercise and concise video. Thanks for sharing this method!
Awesome video and thanks for the PDF too. :D
this is the best one out there on triplets!
John Bonham. Awesome.. In heaven right now teaching God how to play :)
Thanks a lot. Play guitar. And write. Finally getting into drums and want to know all i can about bonham’s technique. So appreciate this
This looks kinda hard work to get through. Will try nevertheless. Thank you very much for the sheets
davor, this really isn't hard at all. This video makes it look easy because it really is. The best thing about it is it is totally awesome. A little bit of hard work = a whole lot of awesome
I can only manage to do these triplets at a quick pace by doing doubles on the kick.
Don't use a double pedal, but fast/accurate singles with the foot in this pattern are difficult for me, oddly.
When you’re left handed playing on right handed drum set and been doing this by accident since you been playing
I know what you mean by trying to lead with the left as opposed to the right. That is difficult for me. I’ll work on that. Thanks for breaking it down for me. Paul.
Thanks for your work
Good break down on this technique. Thumbs
So cool thanks for sharing
Great video! Thanks.
There can Never be enough John Bonham Triplets VIDEOS...!!! (Ioi)... Seriously though...!?! NEVER...!!!
Excellent exercise, many thanks!
Fantastic exercise!
Amazing video, thank you
Fantastic!!! I think I'll skip the 32nds, lol
Thank you for this exercize. It's awesome.
while not Bonham specific, it can be worth your time also to work on the triplet pattern leading with the kick foot... this is great work and I like how you have made it clear that the hi hat pattern varies with the feel....
Hey nice work Dave, that extra floor tom note with the left hand was what was bugging me for so long. Got it now :)
JR Johnstone we must be kin.. Love your passion ../.Very helpful
Another good thing to point out.. or what I had trouble with is hitting the drums evenly or the "bass drum" in particular to get the right sound.. it needs to sound powerful!
Thanks....enjoying this exercise..
Thanks, glad you are digging it!
very cool! and it's the way he did it, and it makes sense. Thanks for the break down
I heard somewhere that British drummers learn to lead with their left where American drummers learn to lead with their right.
Now that you learned that start playing doubles with both hands and feet accent with both hands and feet in augmenting time structures
The speed is one thing. But what I notice is how clean your rim shots are. These are rim shots, right?
Cool video. Can't wait to work on it tomorrow.
Awesome way to get it goin TY man
I needed this cheers
I've been playing this stuff for years and I love it. Exact same :) Awesome lil chop to use at many different speeds. Only thing I haven't done before is the 32nd note part. I can't even hear that one properly haha Something to work on.
A cool thing I like to do is play the last group of three notes all with the hands.. so like L R K L R K L R K L R L 1 .. so your foot has rested and your left hand was last to play, so your right foot and right hand are set up to deliver a strong crash on the 1. Simple idea, but works beautifully at any speed. I would usually play those last three notes all on the floor tom as a nice way to end it.
Great job and LOVE how your kit sounds, by the way.
Walter T yeah that totally makes sense, I’m going to try that. Better than ending on a double on the foot.
I love Danielle Page
Nice job. And a good note in the reason for the crossover to the rack tom for 3rd triplet.
Thanks for the video. I've been leading with my right hand forever
The left should come first for the most past, unless you're a lefty...
That's a sweet trap kit ya got there w/ coated heads, and sounds great.. a blast to play no doubt
IVE BEEN DAZED AND CONFUUUUUSED
very clear and precise .. and really helpful .. thank you
Chick Webb's grandfather came up with those. Nice demo.
Very well explanation
Nice idea
Nice video. I've found that I can increase the possibilites by playing it both ways (RLK or LRK) but ALSO by playing it with different parts on the downbeats, or the beginnings of the triplets. It's surprising how much thinking about the beat in a different place can make the exact same movements feel so much different. To spell it out, RLK as KRL or LKR, and LRK as KLR or RKL.
Thought I would share as a fellow teacher.
Dave Muldoon absolutely! You could definitely go through this exercise with each of those permutations.
I just practice it doing the "dazed and confused" fill. It's a great warm-up
looks great! looking forward to practicing this one
I think your video would be way more interesting if you spoke about what you were doing on the hi-hat and how it related to the time changes. I did enjoy the video btw.