For the amount of times LSV passes darksteel and says it isn’t a good tinker target cause it’s so easy to deal with it’s almost poetic he had no answer for it 😂 tough beats
@@mattwecrazy3236 the point is that portal/citadel can either interact with their stuff, or let you win immediately in their respective decks, whereas there are a ton of answers to blightsteel the opp gets to answer at sorcery speed (unless you have greaves) and if it gets answered you probably lose the game
@@lp1680 I wouldn’t say you lose the game, tinker is 1 card plus an artifact it’s not like you’re discarding your hand to get it into play, it’s pretty tough to deal with in cube for black red and green. Blue has some bounce stuff brazen/jace etc and white path/StP, but acting like it’s not a game ender especially early is dumb imo
I think Colossus got a lot better because of how Magic has changed recently. I'd say it really started when Fable was released. The game moved away from needing to get value from every card because it's easier to make up that deficit. It used to be getting 2 for 1ed ended the game. Now we 2 for 1 ourselves twice on turn 1 lol. Having your card answered is no longer a big deal. That's why Sheoldred and Bonehoard work today where 3 years ago they'd have been bad.
Watching these 50-minute videos while cheering on is like following your favorite anime, even though you know there's a likely bad outcome. Yet, you still hope the protagonist will pull off a surprising victory.
The first deck was very good, the second deck (while okay) was light on interaction and didn't have any power. Like you say, sometimes you just get vintaged, though.
This was such a sweet deck! Dark Ritual is so insanely powerful. I don’t play Black much, or rather a reason to actually run Ritual, but it’s consistently been one of my favorite MTG cards for like 20 years now or for however long I’ve been playing. What’s silly is that I only own ONE that I’ve pulled myself, but it’s a Masterpiece Series, so I doubt I’ll ever sleeve it up for FNM, but you never know! I really only like picking up a play set of cards I know for sure I’ll play, and I’ve always been more of an Izzet/Sultai kinda player, and I never have enough room for the 4 Rituals.
This Thursday I was playing in the 64-player qualifiers and had my opponent turn 2 tinker -> blightsteel off a Mox while I had a useless Subtlety in hand in both games. Glad to know I'm not alone in that experience.
This cube seems to have tough time with combo. Lots of times you open modern power level of packs. Previous version of cube was the best or close to it imo(before hogak stuff. Pitty they forced hogak stuff when the whole Vegas thing is goin on.
I feel like LSV has to go back to basics and rethink his cube drafting strategy. The finnicky green exploration decks and the "oops, all combos" decks just typically don't get there. He wins with artifacts if he has an open lane, but more often, he drafts it without it being open and never gets the academy or workshop. The playerbase has leveled up a lot in the last few years, in large part thanks to LSV popularizing the format and releasing so much cube content. His first deck looked good but I think it would have been better with a couple less combos in the deck and a couple more tutors. It seems better to have like one or two combos with more redundancy than to have three or four with 1-2 copies of each piece and 0-1 tutors. He did slim down the deck by cutting the doomsday stuff but it still suffered from drawing the parts to one linear combo that didn't go with his other linear combo. Besides that, I do still think match 1 was winnable. The turn before he gets lethaled it feels like he can brain freeze his opponent to 1 card through a counterspell, turn off one ring and jace, and have his opponent on a 1 turn clock. He could cast all the cards in his hand. You don't need a target to cast shallow grave and he has 11 mana. You make it so it's difficult to attack with malcolm as well as the draw isn't optional, so you can kill gadgeteer and leave opponent with an unusable jace, a mostly unusable malcolm, 1 card in hand, and 1 card in library. That's like 99% to work whereas passing the turn against an active ring, malcolm, and jace means lots of things can happen and there was just no reason to do that.
The plan to force Breach has been a huge blow to Luis’s Cube win rate the last couple years, but Cube is supposed to be fun and that’s the card he likes. It pretty much adds 3-4 dead cards to his aggro or control decks since the package never does anything.
if everyone had to play, say, 10 matches with their decks rather than single elim, i think your decks would place quite highly. They were good decks! I hate blaming variance and luck, but alas.... 😢 Love the content all the same. rooting for you!
Idk why they thought Rootwalla was good to add to cube lol. Its so low impact not even the deck its meant to go in wants it. Its legacy playable because you get 8 of them. With 1 or 2 its worthless. You cant vomit your hand and have a 3 turn clock turn 1 for 0 mana in limited. Thats the only time its good. And that ignoring that the Hogaak/Bazaar deck sucks on its own. At least give us Hollow One. It can be good with all the good discard outlets in cube while being better than Rootwalla in the same deck.
Because its a big mana play. So its weak to counters. Also you need to do it fast or it won't be good. Also it doesn't necessarily win the game if for example you are getting beaten down ramping into your mind twist.
okay so the second draft nothing you can do really, he just combo'ed you out. But is there any consideration to just drafting more straight forward, linear decks with replaceable cards as the DEFAULT strategy f or getting the most wins? It feels like a very good mono white or base white aggro is really just the best archetype if you can get it. Is there any consideration to the fact that if your main plan is to tempo them out and play an aggressive game, that there is any actual cost to including combo cards? If you just had more burn or more interaction, that could be a stronger overall strategy, even if you are capable of less busted draws and "free wins" like what transpired in match 2.
Didn’t watch the video yet, but I was wondering if we know if LSV 3-0 one draft to be able to go to the second stage for the Ultimate Guard Cube Extravaganza thing
LSV seems to be resistant to the meta that's shaping around this cube where it's much more reliant on turning creatures sideways. We keep getting the same couple of meta decks and they just durdle around unless they're rocking like 3 pieces of power and you draw them and you draw gas. A deck that requires everything to be perfect isn't gonna survive in this cube.
@@LSVargaswatching the video it looked like you got beaten down by a guy turning two power creatures sideways two out of three games in the first draft.
SPOILER STOP READING All of your comments are exactly what I needed! I'm actually pretty triggered whenever he loses and would at all times prefer to not watch at all instead of ruining my day. To hear that he loses two drafts in a row is good enough for me!
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Went: "Aw yeah, second draft."
Glanced at time left on the video.
Went: "Oh no..."
2 drafts in 50 mins, going to be a painful one
"The losing stops now" 😂😂😂 *DEAD*
When bro said flash over bowmasters AND mana drain I understood why the video was so short
I love LSVs attitude. Tough breaks for sure. Good luck in the next one.
For the amount of times LSV passes darksteel and says it isn’t a good tinker target cause it’s so easy to deal with it’s almost poetic he had no answer for it 😂 tough beats
This has happened like soooo many times lol. Idk why he is allergic to taking it tbh
Agree 100%, when I tinker for it it is amazing usually. But, I'm sure he knows what he's talking about!
@@mattwecrazy3236 the point is that portal/citadel can either interact with their stuff, or let you win immediately in their respective decks, whereas there are a ton of answers to blightsteel the opp gets to answer at sorcery speed (unless you have greaves) and if it gets answered you probably lose the game
@@lp1680 I wouldn’t say you lose the game, tinker is 1 card plus an artifact it’s not like you’re discarding your hand to get it into play, it’s pretty tough to deal with in cube for black red and green. Blue has some bounce stuff brazen/jace etc and white path/StP, but acting like it’s not a game ender especially early is dumb imo
I think Colossus got a lot better because of how Magic has changed recently. I'd say it really started when Fable was released. The game moved away from needing to get value from every card because it's easier to make up that deficit. It used to be getting 2 for 1ed ended the game. Now we 2 for 1 ourselves twice on turn 1 lol. Having your card answered is no longer a big deal. That's why Sheoldred and Bonehoard work today where 3 years ago they'd have been bad.
Never thought I’d find a TH-camr I watch daily before this channel!
Watching these 50-minute videos while cheering on is like following your favorite anime, even though you know there's a likely bad outcome. Yet, you still hope the protagonist will pull off a surprising victory.
Jump scare that you were going to companion lurrus
At least it was 2 sweet decks, sometimes you win with crap and lose with the nuts.
The first deck was very good, the second deck (while okay) was light on interaction and didn't have any power. Like you say, sometimes you just get vintaged, though.
Oh wow, tbh both decks were pretty good and capable of going all the way, the draws just didn't pan out. oh well, onto the next one. ;)
This was such a sweet deck! Dark Ritual is so insanely powerful. I don’t play Black much, or rather a reason to actually run Ritual, but it’s consistently been one of my favorite MTG cards for like 20 years now or for however long I’ve been playing. What’s silly is that I only own ONE that I’ve pulled myself, but it’s a Masterpiece Series, so I doubt I’ll ever sleeve it up for FNM, but you never know! I really only like picking up a play set of cards I know for sure I’ll play, and I’ve always been more of an Izzet/Sultai kinda player, and I never have enough room for the 4 Rituals.
Perhaps one of the most interesting titles in recent memory. Not sure where this is going
Perhaps it was more obvious than I thought
I believe this past month LSV accumulates luck reserves, so he can go 13-0 and play in Vegas.
Don't worry too much about the results. Those were fun, pretty good decks you had to work with!
I love these single elims because they really can tear your heart out, even as a viewer
Awesome thanks for the content as always ! Even get a bonus of philosophy much appreciated as am sometimes experiencing variance myself
This Thursday I was playing in the 64-player qualifiers and had my opponent turn 2 tinker -> blightsteel off a Mox while I had a useless Subtlety in hand in both games. Glad to know I'm not alone in that experience.
This cube seems to have tough time with combo. Lots of times you open modern power level of packs. Previous version of cube was the best or close to it imo(before hogak stuff. Pitty they forced hogak stuff when the whole Vegas thing is goin on.
Would love to have seen how that sick Boros/jeskai deck LSV passed in draft 2 would have done. Could have still flamed out ofc.
Great content. Any tips on getting as good as you at drawing lands? It seems like you have got great expertise in that particular area.
Flooding out twice with a 16 land deck is BRUTAL, especially when drawing Duress at pretty much any point in M1G3 would have easily won you the game.
The first draft game two, maybe casting probe for blue was right, considering the burn possibilities. Would have left you at one life in that spot.
Unique magnificent deck in that first draft!
I feel like LSV has to go back to basics and rethink his cube drafting strategy. The finnicky green exploration decks and the "oops, all combos" decks just typically don't get there. He wins with artifacts if he has an open lane, but more often, he drafts it without it being open and never gets the academy or workshop. The playerbase has leveled up a lot in the last few years, in large part thanks to LSV popularizing the format and releasing so much cube content.
His first deck looked good but I think it would have been better with a couple less combos in the deck and a couple more tutors. It seems better to have like one or two combos with more redundancy than to have three or four with 1-2 copies of each piece and 0-1 tutors. He did slim down the deck by cutting the doomsday stuff but it still suffered from drawing the parts to one linear combo that didn't go with his other linear combo.
Besides that, I do still think match 1 was winnable. The turn before he gets lethaled it feels like he can brain freeze his opponent to 1 card through a counterspell, turn off one ring and jace, and have his opponent on a 1 turn clock. He could cast all the cards in his hand. You don't need a target to cast shallow grave and he has 11 mana. You make it so it's difficult to attack with malcolm as well as the draw isn't optional, so you can kill gadgeteer and leave opponent with an unusable jace, a mostly unusable malcolm, 1 card in hand, and 1 card in library. That's like 99% to work whereas passing the turn against an active ring, malcolm, and jace means lots of things can happen and there was just no reason to do that.
The plan to force Breach has been a huge blow to Luis’s Cube win rate the last couple years, but Cube is supposed to be fun and that’s the card he likes. It pretty much adds 3-4 dead cards to his aggro or control decks since the package never does anything.
Love getting these 2 for 1 drafts!
"The losing stops now!" - LSV
What's that card with the blue flower? I've never seen it when cube drafting...
9:04, no bazaar for the doomsday/jace package? Can't be countered even
are you planning a bloomburrow vintage cube set review? I’d love to see one.
if everyone had to play, say, 10 matches with their decks rather than single elim, i think your decks would place quite highly. They were good decks! I hate blaming variance and luck, but alas.... 😢 Love the content all the same. rooting for you!
Getting passed forth and minsc, taking neither felt wrong, but probably right
If only BK were here, someone needs to keep him in line
At 26:00 could you have gone mana vault lotus yawg (asumes he forces) cast bitter shallow brain freeze for exactly 21 cards?
And if he doesnt force yawg you would have way more then enough
When you see him starting the first round with 6 minutes left on the video, its just a question of HOW did he lose so fast?
that sure were 2 rough drafts!
Guys, I accidentally ate lunch before I realized the new video is out. Now I have to just raw dog this video without snacks. 😢
Brutal. I'd say, run the lunch back.
Good luck in the next one LSV!
The card gods giveth, the card gods taketh away
Idk why they thought Rootwalla was good to add to cube lol. Its so low impact not even the deck its meant to go in wants it. Its legacy playable because you get 8 of them. With 1 or 2 its worthless. You cant vomit your hand and have a 3 turn clock turn 1 for 0 mana in limited. Thats the only time its good. And that ignoring that the Hogaak/Bazaar deck sucks on its own. At least give us Hollow One. It can be good with all the good discard outlets in cube while being better than Rootwalla in the same deck.
It's cold on them streets
Thanks for the content!
Man, I’m hoping you get a win soon!
I’m looking at the deck and it looks amazing but the time doesn’t bode well
How come mind twist is not valued higher... i thought it was one of the cards that can break a game?
Because its a big mana play. So its weak to counters. Also you need to do it fast or it won't be good. Also it doesn't necessarily win the game if for example you are getting beaten down ramping into your mind twist.
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Draft 2, your opponent ran pretty hot. Turn 2/3 tinker is brutal.
I was the tinker guy! Gg’s
you had so much mana, no reason to not animate tarpit & block
Wow, you've had the worst luck lately! That said, I hope you get some good luck in the future, I know you got this :D
Passing Tinker :(
Wow a pass to acadamey
Breach into Breach
😮doesn't the eldrazi cancel out his jace win attempt? Seems like a non-bo
Disregard I think he took it out Lolololol
when u play alot of games these things happen
draft any% run :o
okay so the second draft nothing you can do really, he just combo'ed you out.
But is there any consideration to just drafting more straight forward, linear decks with replaceable cards as the DEFAULT strategy f or getting the most wins? It feels like a very good mono white or base white aggro is really just the best archetype if you can get it.
Is there any consideration to the fact that if your main plan is to tempo them out and play an aggressive game, that there is any actual cost to including combo cards? If you just had more burn or more interaction, that could be a stronger overall strategy, even if you are capable of less busted draws and "free wins" like what transpired in match 2.
What is this? Lsv from 10 years ago??
Plans inside plans inside plans.
I think sometimes LSV just tries to much things at the same time and/or gets to fancy. Just one step to much.
Just way too many dead cards. When they go off, it's incredible, but so often it's a handful of stuff that needs other stuff...
Yeah, he really needs to practice not getting turn two tinkered.
Didn’t watch the video yet, but I was wondering if we know if LSV 3-0 one draft to be able to go to the second stage for the Ultimate Guard Cube Extravaganza thing
Never Lucky!
Looking at the time of the video..: this isn’t going to be good
Day 2 of the people(me) demanding more BK
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Третий нах!
i miss bk
I do not
LSV seems to be resistant to the meta that's shaping around this cube where it's much more reliant on turning creatures sideways. We keep getting the same couple of meta decks and they just durdle around unless they're rocking like 3 pieces of power and you draw them and you draw gas. A deck that requires everything to be perfect isn't gonna survive in this cube.
I just lost to two combo decks?
@@LSVargaswatching the video it looked like you got beaten down by a guy turning two power creatures sideways two out of three games in the first draft.
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All of your comments are exactly what I needed! I'm actually pretty triggered whenever he loses and would at all times prefer to not watch at all instead of ruining my day. To hear that he loses two drafts in a row is good enough for me!