Here's Everything Thats WRONG With My CHEAP Jag S-Type
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- I couldn't let you guys down, a bunch of you tagged me in the Hoovie FB group saying I needed to buy this car, so I did. I messaged the seller immediately, went through another painful Marketplace transaction, but we ended up getting a deal made for the cheapest (and probably the ONLY) manual Jaguar S-Type in the country. This 2003 Jag S-Type is powered by the 3.0 Duratec, with a 5 speed manual behind it, and it's rear wheel drive! A pretty incredible package for how cheap the car was!
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Dana is one of the coolest mechanics on YT. Just a laid back knowledgeable dude.
None of this has to do with relaiability. It´s normal wear and years of neglected maintainance, but still turn key and go, and get you where you need to go, so I would say its pretty damn reliable.
The 500 dollar control arms can be had from Rockauto for 140. Same as Lincoln LS
Yep just checked that when I heard 500 I said wtf this is why I don’t go to repair garages.
@@ianwilson1986 never.!!!
It's worth shopping around as some parts may be the same as some Fords or Land Rovers...Ford parts are usually pretty reasonably priced.
@@ianwilson1986 Ya I owned an S type before. It was a really good car (thanks to the Ford underpinnings). I never bought 1 Jag part. All Lincoln LS stuff and aftermarket
An 8 lb piece of fabricated steel for $500? Never.
You can buy most of the bushings separately and inexpensively. They are probably junk, but I feel like a sawzall, torch, hammer, chisels, anir hammer, and my harbor freight 20 ton press could make it work and it would buy her some time for not much money. I need to do the rear suspension arms on my Super V8 soon, but she is no where near as bad as that S-type.
Definitely worth a try, and the effort, when you consider the savings on that alone, plus would make an excellent video. Alas, I doubt he'll go down that road, unfortunately
honestly all the work seems like really light work to get a stick shift RWD car back on the road. thing is a classic
And JR's a good enough mechanic to easily be able to press out and press in the bushings.
Quick search shows that rimmerbros website sells a set of 22 polyurethane bushings (whole suspension) for around $600.
I had an 02 with suspension trouble. I saved around 400 on the lower control arm by getting the thunderbird variant. Same exact part.
You right
even getting parts on discount, there's still at least two grand worth of parts to be replaced.
I wondered if there was a ford equivalent part that could be put in. Smart to use those vs. Jag $pendy parts.
@Vadim car maintenance that has been put off will make service expensive. But refurbish the car would cost some money but not bad idea
@@dcomputers what???
Something about that Jag screams ‘save me’ - it’s been so neglected but I think it has a lot to give,
Such a pretty car. Looks like some work is ahead of you. I'm sure you're going to get it hauling hay again in no time.
For a beater with a heater that's 19 years old it's not terrible.
Just lots of deferred maintenance
The big challenge is how to source parts without the Jag sticker on
FCP Euro has all the suspension bits and they're pretty cheap if you just get the OE/OEM parts, and not the insanely overpriced Genuine Jaguar parts.
@@rage12345678 in England we can also buy great quality sensibly priced spares. You wouldn't take a car like that and fit Jag spares
@@jeremyaustin9103 FCP doesn't sell spares or aftermarket replicas/knockoffs. They are selling the ORIGINAL part made by the actual manufacturer supplier for Jaguar. It just doesn't have a Jaguar logo on it. But the part #s are identical.
@@rage12345678 exactly the point I was making here in England we have similar stores that enable you to run a fancy car for much less money. That Jag is a ford with a posh frock on anyhow.
@@jeremyaustin9103 Got it, I think I misunderstood what you meant. I've owned 8 Jags total over the past 10 years. I loved them all. Still have my 2018 XJ. Do miss my F-Type R and XKR-S, and currently looking for an F-Pace SVR for family use.
Check under the passenger seat to make sure everything is still plugged in. With all of that garbage, the seat sensor could have gotten pulled.
Wow! What a testament to Jag engineering and quality.
It is mostly a Ford, dude.
@@worldhello1234 well not really only 30% or so, but Bosch electronics are much better than Lucas...
I have one and yes it was Ford that made it actually great. Maybe it is not 100% Jag but who cares.
It is not like Lucas was owned by Jag so doesn't make a difference to me. At least stuff WORKS!
I owned an 04 Lincoln ls with similar suspension issues. You can buy the individual bushings on rock auto and Moog. If you’re looking for the control arms you’ll notice a big difference in price between the first and second generation. On second generation suspension parts (03 and up) ford beefed up the suspension components due to the Jag type R. From the research I’ve done I believe first and second generation suspension parts are interchangeable.
Just sitting here eating pizza after work watching JR's newest video. How could this night get any better? 🤔
A few bourbons could make it better.
And just then 38DD walked in...😂
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You can get a whole load of those bushings mail order after market. Some of them are "performance" ones which may affect the ride quality but they are available, at least here in the UK. You can also get pretty cheap aftermarket whole components here. It might be worth mail ordering some stuff from the UK.
As for the coolant sensor, it's not normally the sensor which is bad, it's the float. The float can be replaced but it's tricky to do, and I got a whole aftermarket coolant tank for mine for about £50 which comes with the float...the sensor is separate and clicks in underneath. It's just a reed switch and doesn't normally go wrong. When my float went out it was ok when the engine was cold but as the coolant got hotter the float would lose its buoyancy and the light would come on.
2007 S type 2.7 diesel, 2012 XF 3.0 diesel.
That is a classic JAG. To me, that is easily a 10K car if fixed. The only thing I would worry about is inside the engine, transmission, etc.. As you noticed lots of people like that car. I bought a 1980 380SD Turbo Diesel (30 miles a gallon). I bought it for 2K and put 10K into it and then sold it. Saw one online for 57K. There is a market of older guys that want the cars they could not buy back in the day. In 1980 the Mercedes I bought was 30K (A fortune).
Those cars are beautiful. You can see the influence from the old Jag 3.8 Mk2 Saloon in these cars. To have the S-type with a manual is a added bonus. You will really need to love this car to put that much money into it, since I doubt you'll get that money back unless you sell it to a real Jag fanatic.
Tire ware is probably even because you have an even number up bad suspension parts. 😂
- looking forward to seeing this one get fixed up.
It can a struggle at home to replace bushes in control arms - but it does save a huge amount of money and if you are handy with spanners, then take your time, clean up the suspension and underbody and you end up with a car that will last for years!
Love seeing older jags on the road, just not many.
I recently got a jag s type 2003 from the auction 1,600. 110 thousand miles. Slight oil leaks on the valve cover corner bolts. Valve cover valves stuck in place with jb weld glue I guess. Needs tie rods replaced. Hood shocks. Original wipers which have an adapter that raise them up an inch, no where to be found. Changed all o2 sensors. Need sparks and all coils changed. Expansion tank just cracked so ordered one. Needed to buy a big battery, the right one, because it had a too small one. And the strangest thing is that RPM fluctuates while driving when cold, something like a feeling of hold and go when driving, and it goes away 20 minutes later. I hope is not a transmission issue. But I see it as a great machine worth fixing. I hope I don't have that much parts to fix like yours
Yeah fix the leaks and trans mount, then see what the most value for suspension is left… like someone else said, maybe look for ford variant parts, do the shocks…. See whats what after that…
Looks like the suspension wore out evenly somehow and been driven mostly on the freeways which makes it still nicely driveable.
For about $400 you can buy all four moog control arms and do it in a weekend, then alignment. I know not factory but just as good, sometimes better with the problem solver line.
1A Auto is my usual go to for whole suspension kits they usually are half of what Rockauto prices are.
Another great video from JR. Keep it going
This is a great throwback to you flip days. Looking forward to see this.
I'm still concerned out by that plastic bag sticking out of the driver's head rest! Reminds me a of a "metharati" that I saw on youtube...
Wish you would go buy a car from my grandpa's junkyard in Abiline KS, Picking auto salvage
Sound cool, have to check it out one day! 🍻
Cool, calm and collected Dana ! Especially for a foreign wrench ! Yep, Mr . Cool, Calm and Collected!
Coolant low…..check engine light….i bet that killed a lot of sales for that car before you got it…😀
Rockauto the parts and make it a good daily. I am interested to see what it would cost.
I like Dana, so glad you didn't take it to the wiz.
6am UK crew. Sup Jr. Damm I was just gunna try and get some sleep too lol
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i have same car with the v8 it is fun to drive , i live in Canada but i get my parts most of them from Rockauto parts realy cheap and you get to have severals quality to choose from !
Lincoln LS suspension components will work for that Jag IIRC.
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I still think 2k was a decent deal. I would have bought it for that and not been too sad about refreshing all the suspension. That is a pretty high price. My S6 was like $600 for arms, links, inner and outer tie rod etc. I am surprised the Jag is that much more.
As someone from the UK, those prices sound insane to me. Until about 5 years ago maybe, you would see these quite regularly on the roads, they are still out there but not very common. Regardless, wouldn't have thought that rear control arms and rear shocks would be $2000 however! I'm sure here in the UK and Europe they still make those parts and would be a few hundred tops and then just ship it to the us maybe? Not an expert, just curious that's all.
Ford Thunderbird have the same suspension parts. Savings there.
Jus rock Auto everything n don't worry about it
This car is the prime example of what happens when people either buy a car they can't afford or buy a brand of car they can't afford. I was always told with anything in life you have to buy...you buy it twice. Cars are no exception to this. Too many times do people buy decent cars...new or used and neglect the service on it. They only fix something if it prevents the car from going so...oil leaks, bad suspension parts and knocking all fall to the wayside as a non-issue until the car is sold and someone else gets stuck with a car that isn't worth fixing and likely doesn't get fixed.
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Let’s hope you can fix the faults. Poor injured kitty.
I like Dana, nice calm energy. Cool guy. Good video JR 😍
How many miles on it? Be interesting to see - there's a lot of wear in that suspension!
138k miles 🍻
@@WatchJRGo That was a quick response. I'm in Australia and wasn't expecting an answer for a few hours! Thanks for the info - there are a few $ waiting to be spent on that old girl. Still, $2K isn't a huge starting price.....
Happy New Year, JR! Get this thing fixed Samcrac style, on the cheap! Sans stepmom, though.
Oh boy, that's a lot wrong, death by a 1000 cuts 😂
Its has inspiration from FORD. I have to say it is a shame the bushings can not be pressed into the control arms , It is a very nice looking car and overall the high tech features held up well over time. More please!
They can be pressed in though, just Jaguar only sells the complete item. They are same as Lincoln LS and Thunderbird. Ford sells the separate parts for normal prices.
Wow parts for this jag in the states are expensive
This is the problem with old Jags that havent been maintained properly, the suspension is complex & so costs a lot to rebuild (although the parts are 1/5th the price here in the UK compared to the US). You could Polly bush those arms & get decent quality coilovers to keep costs down?
Any shop updates?
This vehicle would not be allowed to public road, if this was found during annual vehicle inspection (Finland).
Most states in the US dont have inspections. A few do, and it likely wouldnt make inspections in those states either.
Can't register a car with an engine light on in California. Doesn't matter why. If the engine light is in it's an automatic SMOG test failure and without a passed smog test you can forget getting the car registered or reregistered if you were lucky enough to pass once.
Thank God not in ca.......
@@67FORDTRUCKF250 I too thank God you're not here.
@@RemedialRob please don't move out of your beloved commiefornia and screw up other states....
At 15:12 After that report that just turned into a (J)unk (A)uto (G)arbage S-Type
@1:47 It is basically a Ford in drag. 😊
Look at Ford thunderbird or Lincoln LS suspension parts. Probably exactly the same. The XF is on the same platform too!!
TH-cam has really increased their ads, I wonder if they pocket the money, or do the TH-camrs at least get to share in the profit. If I have to see a creepy man smell his beard after a really good meal, I’m gonna puke. Still like this Jag series though
It's amazing how fast the cha chings add up
What's that red digital display reading "304..." on the wall around time 2:35?
Check out Rock Auto for control arm parts. They have them for $60 w/bushings, or just buy the bushings for $12 each.
Are you using jaguar parts? because those prices are scandalous.
If that car is impressive in that condition; new that car must have been amazing.
Hope this rarity can get a resurrection.🐆
I mean… all in all, not rusted out, motor’s not stuck, shifts, has an interior, mostly works.
Hey
🥇 boom!
Fixing most of the suspension like the arms and the struts is a lost cause. I dont understand why all cars dont have 02 sensors before the cats. It would make racecar mode a lot easier
There is a bright yellow Land Rover Discovery II Kalahari Edition in the background, BUY IT, don't ask questions, just buy it.
That is stupid money, can get a complete front and rear uprated Bush kit for £532.
very good video, how about doing a repair with parts from other cars, such as polystyrene bushings etc.
Car this age is viable if you DIY repairs using replacement bushings rather than new oem control arms/wishbones etc.
the shocks, and control arms and steering components will set you back $500 bucks. It's a pretty cool car.
It's a good looking car and a straight drive! Win!
John you said the owner did replace the radiator so why the hoses for the radiator is leaking
Scrap it - not worth even touching. Over here in England, you cannot even give them away.
They definitely aren't as bad as the ones on my 2001 s type 3.0
Parts on RockAuto seem relatively cheap.
I sent all my info to claim my prize but haven't received any confirmation yet?
What's going on JR?
Ya I got an03 jag from my roomate for free and I'm doing all the suspension also eBay is the cheapest route
I love your videos jr
The S-Type is perfect for the fellow who is Jaguar-curious, but they' would miss their Taurus.
Happy new year ❄️🎊🪅🎉😃🙃
Would it be possible to press in new bushings? I mean, even if they aren't exact fit (because they probably don't sell the right size ones) it would be better than letting it knock around.
No it's a jaguar and that's what's right with it
I had a 3 litre manual S Type from "almost" new to 75k and it was absolute rubbish. Got to 65 k and everything just started falling apart. Split engine coolant reservoir, failed coil packs, suspension bushings repeatedly failing, fuel system problems, on and on and on. I caled it my "clown car". I've been a Volvo and Mercedes man since.
Do the suspension. We'd all love to know how good it could be. If you take a couple of k hit put it down to keeping your loyal subscribers happy
Where is the hood insulation?
My mother has an 01 jag s type, same issues. But drives amazing. Go figure. 😂
Yo I love the Jag
🥉 me too... and I don't know why!
@@WatchJRGo is that other comment spam ?
Woah, I don't think I've ever been this early to a WatchJRGo video lol
There's wrong info by John and Dana in this video. The suspension bushings CAN in fact be replaced for less than $50 per corner. I have owned my 2003 Jaguar S-Type 3.0 Sport 5-speed manual for 14 years. I did this repair myself in the garage. Here's how. It's in my video discussing the Top 10 common problems with the Jaguar S-Type and how to fix them on the cheap: th-cam.com/video/RtjIsARb8zs/w-d-xo.html .
I found the press in bushings as well... can't imagine a worse job though. I'd guess most shops would charge you double if you brought bushings instead of full replacement parts 💯
@@WatchJRGo Removing the rear lower control arm and rear strut was surprisingly easy. Replacing the strut bushings took 10 minutes on my 20-ton HF press. The control arm bushings are a pain the neck, though. I used a Press & Pull Sleeve Kit and it was a struggle, but still doable by a weekend mechanic.
Differed maintenance, deferred maintenance? Has anyone heard of maintenance on a car.....kills me to know how many cars are on the road in even worse shape than this example. 🤔
Like I know he’s a shop but 500 for the lower control arm is crazy . Rock auto has them for like under 200 for moog
It amazes me that this Jag shares the Lincoln platform, but not Lincoln suspension. Because the Lincoln ride was butter……
Dana needs his own channel
The mechanic looks like " please ai don't want to work in this crappy car "
Thought you were going to give up on this one
everytime they say it is super nice you should say make me an offer.
It’s good cause it’s a real manual
That Jag is good,because the car knows that she is on good hands of a great person))that Kitty likes you))