I am with you Mark and Coral. I have seen a big change since I started in 1984 and from being the best they have rapidly declined to the worst organisation IMHO. I currently have their insurance and this will be the first year in 8 years that I will be actively analysing the value of remaining with them. The overseas cover is the only area that I am unsure about, so more research needed but I feel sure there are alternatives available. As for the pricing and the new booking system, it’s unfriendly and doesn’t suit a club, it’s more attuned to a corporate chain. We don’t feel valued any more by this club, camping is becoming like banking…. people unfriendly 🙁 shame on the Club. Trev
Hi Trev, not been a member as long as yourself, but in our short time, we have noticed changers, not all for the best and like you, do not feel valued. The prices of sites is another area where the club needs some work, we believe they are overpriced. Don't think we will be renewing our Caravan & Motorhome Company membership this year. Oh, did I say Company, I meant Club 😉. See you soon as long as my membership isn't revoked lol. ATB
Hi Trev. We totally agree with you. We do not rate the Club for many reasons. I also feel the Wardens are expected to do too much for the smallest reward. They are the main face of the Club and if they are rude I am guessing its due to tiredness and being under valued by the Bosses. Phil
Hi Mark and Coral. We totally agree it's a problem for a lot of people. We went to the South meeting for C&MH club members. And at the time we with a lot of people disagreed with the chairman about paying a deposit. They said it would stop people block booking and to a point it has stopped that. But like you we thought it was a perk. We will be stopping our membership. Great video. Paul and Sarah
Hi Paul & Sarah, It is like a lot of people have said, it's not a club anymore , it's a business and I think I would rather spend my money at small independent sites. Thanks for watching. ATB
@HitchUpAndTow we are thinking the same we are away at the moment and it's £80 cheaper than black knowl which is our go to site in the new forest. Cl sites and independent sites have now got to step up their game. This is where C&MH Will fall in my opinion
Hi Mark & Coral. I have to admit we never use the UK CAMC sites at all. I find most of the Staff rude and the sites are Dull & Dated. You are correct its not a Club anymore. We only remain in it as the affiliated European sites which are awesome plus there is a good discount on the Ferry services. Juliet agrees the disabled bathrooms at the Clubs sites are poor, the grab handles are in the wrong places in the shower areas and there are no moveable stools. We will stop using the Club once we have finished touring abroad. The Private sites are much better and offer more for your dosh. The app and booking site are rubbish. We ring up as we prefer talking to a human. The Call centre staff are friendly and helpful. I don't blame you cancelling your Memberships at all. Thanks Phil & Juliet😉👍
Hi Phil, I forgot about the App, now that could be a whole new video. We have been looking at going to France and have found a company called Flowers which deals with the smaller sites. If we ever book, we will let you know what they are like. ATB
Hi guys as for the £57 you are getting to talk to experts regarding information on tow car choice,legal advise on everything not just caravans etc, discounts on products that aren't caravan/motorhome related. We just purchased a new dishwasher using the club discount and saved over £100 and still couldn't find that price for the same machine anywhere. As you rightly said the cl network is very good but you get to be members of all rally groups which allow for really cheap weekends away. But of course no one's told they must stay or leave it's all about what works for you.
I'm glad the caravan club has worked for you, but we have never saved money by being members, in fact everything we have ever got through the caravan club has cost us more. We will miss the CL network and perhaps that will be the one thing that brings us back. Only time will tell. Thanks for watching ATB
Hiya ... so good that you have highlighted this for us... we will never join a club as we don't want rules and regulations and want to chill and relax without issue.....huge thanks both Paolo and Roger aka 'The Camp Caravanners'
Hello Coral and Mark, only been a caravaner since last July and straight away we joined the ££££ club, every one we went to last year was a nice site, but when you look at other independent sites they are much cheaper and in a lot of cases better, so I think we may be one of the shortest members, the wardens are so nice, well the sites we went to, don’t know about the rest, and the App is a waist of time, great video guys, 👍👍.
Don't know anything about Passport America., but the CAMC seem to be more interested in making money than looking after there members. Thanks for watching 👍
Had the same situation with my gym membership,25 dollars , for members, 10 dollars for nonmembers, makes no since, nice to see Coral with a smile, All the best.
Hi Mark & Coral, I've tweeted a few things about the club and my blog email inbox is filling up with 'me too' comments from members that are not happy with CAMC currently and a surprising number are saying they are considering letting their membership lapse when its up for renewal. I'm starting to look at alternative sites for this years trips. Cheers, Simon (Caravan Chronicles)
Catching up we have been away (again) LOL We have been waiting to get home to watch this. We used to have to pay deposits when we were members, they were non-returnable and non-transferable. The year before we left the CAMC made £19million profit and still wanted to rise the pitch price, a club would not do that. The Friendly Club are almost as bad these days but we stayed with them longer. My thoughts are pretty much your thoughts LOL
It's definitely a company and not a club. The CLs are something we would miss, but I hate the way they keep telling me how much I have saved,so do they really think I believe that lol. Thanks for watching 👍
@@HitchUpAndTow Here is something interesting, from the accounts to 31 December 2021 (the 2022 accounts are not yet available - I think) the amount of cash held by the "Club" was, wait for it, £53 million yes Fifty three million pounds.
Re the club taking payment before you arrive, there is a box to tick/ untick asking if you want to pay before you arrive. It’s an option! I agree regarding the so called discounts in the shop , usually more expensive as is the insurance where they are brokers not insurers. I will be using more CLs and small sites this yr.
🤣been to the pub. I'm not allowed to touch the camera after I've had a drink or two LOL. We have a few different things like this over here. We don't belong to any of them. But the biggest and most expensive one, I've heard many complaints about. Personally, I never thought it sounded worth it 🤷🏻♀but there are some people that it really seems to work for.
Same here, not about the pub lol. More and more people seem to be complaining about the big clubs, but hopefully the small independents we make some money out of it. ATB
Wow, that equates to almost 500 bucks a week to stay at an RV park. Parks over here have seen price increases, and much of it does depend on location of course. I choke when I have to pay more than 50 bucks a night to stay somewhere and ususually being the cheep ass that I am we try to find places for 20 to 25 bucks a night if we are going to to stay in a park. Good luck with your decision. s
Hi Sean, I don't mind paying if it's worth it, but when there are better and cheaper site out there and you don't need to pay a membership fee, I can't see the point of renewing. Thanks for watching
Totally agree about CAMC. Way too expensive now . No longer a club but a business. I emailed them expressing my views and they basically were not interested. Told me to go on their sites with no facilities and electric if i though they were too expensive. I'm still a member but only because we use cls. Had a look at their Knaresborough site for Spring Bank. They want £62 a night. What do you get for that ? You are taking your own accommodation for heavens sake.
Wow £62 a night, must have a look at that site lol. It was nice that the CAMC told you where to go, no facilities sites, if it wasn't for CL's, I would be telling them, where to go. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
@@HitchUpAndTow yeah joys of internet I guess, it's complete madness that sites with pools, bars and entertainment are often cheaper than a basic site, I get that the more expensive ones might be smaller but with kids it's all about the extra stuff
I’m not happy with them either, we are Customers now not Members. You have to tick a box not to pre pay before arrival. I’m waiting for feedback on a discussion I had at the Manchester Show, it’s a good job I’m not holding my breath. I’m very disappointed with the Clubs attitude, nobody cares or is interested anymore.
Hi Colin. I totally agree we are now Customers, Club Members my ass. We only stay in for the Ferry discounts and if I find this cheaper elsewhere we will be off too. Phil🙂
Hi Mark & Coral, great vlog, great minds think a like! The CAMC main sites as you know are not value for money, they are becoming a big money making business. They will eventually become too big and be taken over by the big wigs who only want more money out of a business. As you pointed out, their so called savings/discounts are not that cheap if you shop around. Like you I took their insurance out when we first got a van, I now pay £300 less than their quotes! A lot of great independent/private sites out there which offer fantastic value for your buck. Take care, Martin
Hi Martin. We went 2 years without the club and found some great sites, looks like we will be doing it again. Hope to see you out there on a private site 👍
I too have been a member for many years but already decided this is the last. No objection to paying deposits, indeed I think that is the right thing to do but I see no real advantages in being a member - or as someone else said, a 'paying customer'.
We're with the caravan club. We didn't tick the box to pay before you arrive we pay on arrivel you have a choice. The deposit bit is a pain but yrs ago you had leave a £5 deposit. The friendly club as you said arn't so frendly we never renewed with them you have leave deposit to. X
I’ve been caravanning for 35 years hardly use CC sites. Paying a deposit is the best thing they’ve done all other independent sites have always done this so can’t see a problem. Prices always vary from site to site. When my children were younger in the early 90s I paid then £400 per week in main season down Cornwall. You question why are we paying to the club well you don’t have to so just cancel it.
Hi, I agree that most other sites charge a deposit, but don't charge you £57 for the privilege of doing so and also don't over charge you for a pitch. The £400 plus CAMC site was not even in high season. We have done like for like comparisons and have found the Caravan Club are far more expensive. We won't cancel our membership, because I can't see us getting a refund, but we will not renew. Thanks for watching and your comment.
I agree with you CAMC has become extremely expensive been member since 2000 also caravaning since 1974 when I first started it was price per pitch loins cararvan club 2000 it was price per couple then they change it to per person that when it’s became expensive I use to book 8 club sites a year now down to one like you I look at pitchup for sites per couple usually £60 to £120 cheaper why they charge for children they are the future of caravaning
It is a business now, not a club. I don't know about you, but the money I save, going to a private site, pays for another trip away. Thanks for watching
Hi.we sold our caravan last Saturday due to ill health. But I must say when they took the caravan away they took all my worries with it. Sick of caravan issues, site prices . So for me I'm going to cancel everything . Regards kev
Hope your heath issues improve soon. I know what you mean with tyres, servicing, the inevitable faults with the caravan every time you go away, storage and not to mention site prices, sometimes I don't know why I do it. Thanks for watching
Hear, hear! I use them occasionally for the odd night here and there but whether its worth it now I don't know, will check at renewal. Tbh I find the sites very 'samey' and not particularly interesting, most private sites are better in that respect, more personality and better value for money. Whether that will change too though once people leave the CAMC en masse and hit the private sites ... probably. Such a shame they're not a club anymore, just another greedy business.
So glad you put this out. I thought I was the only one who thought this way. We are not renewing our membership, total money grabbers
You are not alone. Thanks for watching👍
So glad you spoke out, it needed to be said
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I am with you Mark and Coral. I have seen a big change since I started in 1984 and from being the best they have rapidly declined to the worst organisation IMHO. I currently have their insurance and this will be the first year in 8 years that I will be actively analysing the value of remaining with them. The overseas cover is the only area that I am unsure about, so more research needed but I feel sure there are alternatives available. As for the pricing and the new booking system, it’s unfriendly and doesn’t suit a club, it’s more attuned to a corporate chain. We don’t feel valued any more by this club, camping is becoming like banking…. people unfriendly 🙁 shame on the Club. Trev
Hi Trev, not been a member as long as yourself, but in our short time, we have noticed changers, not all for the best and like you, do not feel valued. The prices of sites is another area where the club needs some work, we believe they are overpriced. Don't think we will be renewing our Caravan & Motorhome Company membership this year. Oh, did I say Company, I meant Club 😉. See you soon as long as my membership isn't revoked lol. ATB
Totally agree with you. They've let us down
Hi Trev. We totally agree with you. We do not rate the Club for many reasons. I also feel the Wardens are expected to do too much for the smallest reward. They are the main face of the Club and if they are rude I am guessing its due to tiredness and being under valued by the Bosses. Phil
Hi Mark and Coral. We totally agree it's a problem for a lot of people. We went to the South meeting for C&MH club members. And at the time we with a lot of people disagreed with the chairman about paying a deposit. They said it would stop people block booking and to a point it has stopped that. But like you we thought it was a perk. We will be stopping our membership. Great video. Paul and Sarah
Hi Paul & Sarah, It is like a lot of people have said, it's not a club anymore , it's a business and I think I would rather spend my money at small independent sites. Thanks for watching. ATB
@HitchUpAndTow we are thinking the same we are away at the moment and it's £80 cheaper than black knowl which is our go
to site in the new forest. Cl sites and independent sites have now got to step up their game. This is where C&MH Will fall in my opinion
@@paulandsarahcaravanlife A lot of the family run sites are better, because that's there livelihood whereas CAMC, it's just a job
Hi Mark & Coral. I have to admit we never use the UK CAMC sites at all. I find most of the Staff rude and the sites are Dull & Dated. You are correct its not a Club anymore. We only remain in it as the affiliated European sites which are awesome plus there is a good discount on the Ferry services. Juliet agrees the disabled bathrooms at the Clubs sites are poor, the grab handles are in the wrong places in the shower areas and there are no moveable stools. We will stop using the Club once we have finished touring abroad. The Private sites are much better and offer more for your dosh. The app and booking site are rubbish. We ring up as we prefer talking to a human. The Call centre staff are friendly and helpful. I don't blame you cancelling your Memberships at all.
Thanks Phil & Juliet😉👍
Hi Phil, I forgot about the App, now that could be a whole new video. We have been looking at going to France and have found a company called Flowers which deals with the smaller sites. If we ever book, we will let you know what they are like. ATB
Only joined last year as we wanted to stay at Hillhead but now considering whether we continue as have also noticed the huge increases.
Don’t mind paying a deposit and C&CC also take your money before you arrive which I’m happy with. Never had any issues and think they’re a better club
Thinking of joining the friendly club and seeing how that goes. Thanks for watching👍
Hi guys as for the £57 you are getting to talk to experts regarding information on tow car choice,legal advise on everything not just caravans etc, discounts on products that aren't caravan/motorhome related.
We just purchased a new dishwasher using the club discount and saved over £100 and still couldn't find that price for the same machine anywhere.
As you rightly said the cl network is very good but you get to be members of all rally groups which allow for really cheap weekends away.
But of course no one's told they must stay or leave it's all about what works for you.
I'm glad the caravan club has worked for you, but we have never saved money by being members, in fact everything we have ever got through the caravan club has cost us more. We will miss the CL network and perhaps that will be the one thing that brings us back. Only time will tell. Thanks for watching ATB
Hiya ... so good that you have highlighted this for us... we will never join a club as we don't want rules and regulations and want to chill and relax without issue.....huge thanks both Paolo and Roger aka 'The Camp Caravanners'
Thanks for watching and commenting on our video it really is appreciated 👍
I hope the campground management hears this and make some improvements , especially the bathrooms. Have fun at the pub. Cheers🍺
Thanks for watching and merry Christmas 🎅 🤶🎄
Hello Coral and Mark, only been a caravaner since last July and straight away we joined the ££££ club, every one we went to last year was a nice site, but when you look at other independent sites they are much cheaper and in a lot of cases better, so I think we may be one of the shortest members, the wardens are so nice, well the sites we went to, don’t know about the rest, and the App is a waist of time, great video guys, 👍👍.
The sites are normally clean if a bit dated. The thing that gets us is, if we get a discount, how much are these sites normally. Thanks for watching 👍
Interesting, I guess this is like Passport America here. The prices are ok, but actually not many campsites take part anymore.
Don't know anything about Passport America., but the CAMC seem to be more interested in making money than looking after there members. Thanks for watching 👍
Would like to know who your caravan insurance with
We are with Amtrust through Compare Caravan Insurance. Always check the policy is right for you. ATB
Had the same situation with my gym membership,25 dollars , for members, 10 dollars for nonmembers, makes no since, nice to see Coral with a smile, All the best.
I think prices are based on how much they can get out of you, not the worth of the product. Thanks for watching
Hi Mark & Coral, I've tweeted a few things about the club and my blog email inbox is filling up with 'me too' comments from members that are not happy with CAMC currently and a surprising number are saying they are considering letting their membership lapse when its up for renewal. I'm starting to look at alternative sites for this years trips. Cheers, Simon (Caravan Chronicles)
That's what we are doing this year. We have found Pitch up and UK Campsites a great place to start looking. Thanks for watching
Catching up we have been away (again) LOL We have been waiting to get home to watch this.
We used to have to pay deposits when we were members, they were non-returnable and non-transferable.
The year before we left the CAMC made £19million profit and still wanted to rise the pitch price, a club would not do that.
The Friendly Club are almost as bad these days but we stayed with them longer.
My thoughts are pretty much your thoughts LOL
It's definitely a company and not a club. The CLs are something we would miss, but I hate the way they keep telling me how much I have saved,so do they really think I believe that lol. Thanks for watching 👍
If you want confirmation that you are a customer and not a member look at their latest published a counts and the level of profit.
Now that could be interesting and surprising . Thanks for watching👍
@@HitchUpAndTow Here is something interesting, from the accounts to 31 December 2021 (the 2022 accounts are not yet available - I think) the amount of cash held by the "Club"
was, wait for it, £53 million yes
Fifty three million pounds.
@@himwotdus Gobsmacked
Re the club taking payment before you arrive, there is a box to tick/ untick asking if you want to pay before you arrive. It’s an option! I agree regarding the so called discounts in the shop , usually more expensive as is the insurance where they are brokers not insurers. I will be using more CLs and small sites this yr.
We love the CL's , its the only reason we are still members at the moment. Thanks for watching 👍
Our friends unticked the box but it still took their money
I doubt we will be using them any time soon. 😂 Nice, honest review.
Thanks for watching I think a lot of people have the same opinion
🤣been to the pub. I'm not allowed to touch the camera after I've had a drink or two LOL. We have a few different things like this over here. We don't belong to any of them. But the biggest and most expensive one, I've heard many complaints about. Personally, I never thought it sounded worth it 🤷🏻♀but there are some people that it really seems to work for.
Same here, not about the pub lol. More and more people seem to be complaining about the big clubs, but hopefully the small independents we make some money out of it. ATB
Good rant and close to the knuckle and pricing is ott🤔🤔
Just having our say 😆. Hope you enjoyed it👍
Wow, that equates to almost 500 bucks a week to stay at an RV park. Parks over here have seen price increases, and much of it does depend on location of course. I choke when I have to pay more than 50 bucks a night to stay somewhere and ususually being the cheep ass that I am we try to find places for 20 to 25 bucks a night if we are going to to stay in a park. Good luck with your decision. s
Hi Sean, I don't mind paying if it's worth it, but when there are better and cheaper site out there and you don't need to pay a membership fee, I can't see the point of renewing. Thanks for watching
Totally agree about CAMC. Way too expensive now . No longer a club but a business.
I emailed them expressing my views and they basically were not interested. Told me to go on their sites with no facilities and electric if i though they were too expensive.
I'm still a member but only because we use cls. Had a look at their Knaresborough site for Spring Bank. They want £62 a night. What do you get for that ? You are taking your own accommodation for heavens sake.
Wow £62 a night, must have a look at that site lol. It was nice that the CAMC told you where to go, no facilities sites, if it wasn't for CL's, I would be telling them, where to go. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
Great videos guys. We have found the CAMC sites to be overpriced and the facilities a bit dated. Back to the independent campsites for us.
Totally agree with you. ATB
I was a member of the other club, didn't use any sites because of work etc. Not renewed for the same reason it's cheaper to use non club sites
And easier to book these days lol. Thanks for watching
@@HitchUpAndTow yeah joys of internet I guess, it's complete madness that sites with pools, bars and entertainment are often cheaper than a basic site, I get that the more expensive ones might be smaller but with kids it's all about the extra stuff
@@stev5376 It's mad, I always thought you got what you paid for, but apparently not in the caravan in world.
I’m not happy with them either, we are Customers now not Members. You have to tick a box not to pre pay before arrival. I’m waiting for feedback on a discussion I had at the Manchester Show, it’s a good job I’m not holding my breath. I’m very disappointed with the Clubs attitude, nobody cares or is interested anymore.
Hi Colin. I totally agree we are now Customers, Club Members my ass. We only stay in for the Ferry discounts and if I find this cheaper elsewhere we will be off too. Phil🙂
Hi Colin, you summed it up perfectly. The Caravan & Motorhome Company 👍
Hi Mark & Coral, great vlog, great minds think a like!
The CAMC main sites as you know are not value for money, they are becoming a big money making business. They will eventually become too big and be taken over by the big wigs who only want more money out of a business. As you pointed out, their so called savings/discounts are not that cheap if you shop around. Like you I took their insurance out when we first got a van, I now pay £300 less than their quotes!
A lot of great independent/private sites out there which offer fantastic value for your buck.
Take care, Martin
Hi Martin. We went 2 years without the club and found some great sites, looks like we will be doing it again. Hope to see you out there on a private site 👍
I too have been a member for many years but already decided this is the last. No objection to paying deposits, indeed I think that is the right thing to do but I see no real advantages in being a member - or as someone else said, a 'paying customer'.
We will be free in June, the money we will save should pay for an extra couple of trips away. Thanks for watching 👍
The CAMC tend to be our favourite sites so its hard for us
We feel the same about CL sites, so I think there is going to be a lot of talk before our membership ends. Thanks for watching
We're with the caravan club. We didn't tick the box to pay before you arrive we pay on arrivel you have a choice. The deposit bit is a pain but yrs ago you had leave a £5 deposit. The friendly club as you said arn't so frendly we never renewed with them you have leave deposit to. X
We might just take some time out from the Club, not happy in its Direction at the moment. Thanks for watching👍
We agree with what you said 👍Graeme
Hi Graeme, looks like a lot of other people think the same way. Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay safe 👍
I’ve been caravanning for 35 years hardly use CC sites. Paying a deposit is the best thing they’ve done all other independent sites have always done this so can’t see a problem. Prices always vary from site to site. When my children were younger in the early 90s I paid then £400 per week in main season down Cornwall. You question why are we paying to the club well you don’t have to so just cancel it.
Hi, I agree that most other sites charge a deposit, but don't charge you £57 for the privilege of doing so and also don't over charge you for a pitch. The £400 plus CAMC site was not even in high season. We have done like for like comparisons and have found the Caravan Club are far more expensive. We won't cancel our membership, because I can't see us getting a refund, but we will not renew. Thanks for watching and your comment.
I agree with you CAMC has become extremely expensive been member since 2000 also caravaning since 1974 when I first started it was price per pitch loins cararvan club 2000 it was price per couple then they change it to per person that when it’s became expensive I use to book 8 club sites a year now down to one like you I look at pitchup for sites per couple usually £60 to £120 cheaper why they charge for children they are the future of caravaning
It is a business now, not a club. I don't know about you, but the money I save, going to a private site, pays for another trip away. Thanks for watching
We are paying £57 to members of the Snobby Club.🤣
I think I will have to leave, I'm not snobby enough 😂
Never used this and probably will never have the opportunity to use it....but now I won't 🐸
I haven't been the best advert for the club lol. Thanks for watching👍
Hi Mark and Coral. good job calling out a rip off.
Hi Linda, thanks for stopping by. Just speaking our minds 😁
That's disgusting....... Glad you found a cheaper insurance but a shame you had to learn the hard way. Everything happens for a reason 👍
I'm happy with my insurance now. Would not go back to the CAMC. Thanks for watching and stay safe👍
Well said, totally overpriced.
Thanks for watching 👍
Hi.we sold our caravan last Saturday due to ill health.
But I must say when they took the caravan away they took all my worries with it.
Sick of caravan issues, site prices .
So for me I'm going to cancel everything .
Regards kev
Hope your heath issues improve soon. I know what you mean with tyres, servicing, the inevitable faults with the caravan every time you go away, storage and not to mention site prices, sometimes I don't know why I do it. Thanks for watching
Hear, hear! I use them occasionally for the odd night here and there but whether its worth it now I don't know, will check at renewal. Tbh I find the sites very 'samey' and not particularly interesting, most private sites are better in that respect, more personality and better value for money. Whether that will change too though once people leave the CAMC en masse and hit the private sites ... probably. Such a shame they're not a club anymore, just another greedy business.
The only thing the club has for us, is the CL sites. We love them, so still not sure what we are doing come renewal. Thanks for watching 👍