Hi everyone, I want to state how this video is meant to explore issues people have seen with the film "Music", and this is not focused on the actual songs or tracks from the film. Additionally, since this video weaves between topics that may be highly sensitive to some, we all need to be extremely respectful with our open discourse. If at any point I unintentionally got information wrong or brought up a point that was heavily opinionated as opposed to just the facts, please let me know. Thank you all for watching friends, I hope we can all learn something from this ... 'film'.
I let you know that because of a bad movie about a girl with a severe case of nonverbal autism, you made half a video implying that Sia is a child abuser and potentially molester. And all of this to please a bunch of spoiled high-functioning autistic kids.
I don’t think Maddie is really at fault as 1. Her mother is notorious for pushing her to do things she doesn’t want to 2. Maddie was only 14 3. She was probably doing what she was directed to do(even though it was wrong[which I don’t think she knew at the time])
didn't she say in an interview that she cried because she doesn't want to act in the movie but Sia told her to just go for it? I'm sure she doesn't have a say in this because she's young.
I don't blame Maddie either, I just find it interesting she hasn't been vocal about the issues surrounding the film considering she's worked so close with Sia over the past decade. Maddie has ALWAYS been pushed throughout her adolescence, so I can only imagine the situation she was in during filming.
@@ranaevalentine9876 this is not fair. Maddie was playing a role and cried the entire first day because she didn’t want to offend or seem like she was making fun of. The issue doesn’t lay with Maddie portrayal, the issue lays with Maddie being cast in the first place. My brother acts very similar to Maddie’s facials and movements. It was going to always offend someone.
I feel like Maddie hasn’t been able to live her life. She’s always been surrounded by women with a large age gap from her own age. They have been overprotective of her and given her practically no control over her own life. I don’t blame her at all for anything involving this film. She’s never been put in a place to hone her critical thinking skills. So yeah, I blame the adults who directed this. And, as someone who is on the autism spectrum (I have Aspergers), I don’t mind having neutral typical actors playing those with autism. *However*, you need to be careful. If you just go off of stereotypes, you’re going to cause more damage to the community than good. They really did a horrible job of researching the topic. For Sia to say that it’d be cruel for an autistic person to portray an autistic person in her film just goes to show that she had some sense of realization during the directing process that it was going to be stereotyped or exaggerated.
Sia worked with Autism Speaks for this film. If that doesn’t explain the horrible lack of research and knowledge on the topic I have no clue what does. This movie never should have been made.
at first i was like "don't cancel her, just inform her" then i realized she was actually aware of everything that she was doing and then it all went downhill
Same! I thought the exact same thing. I thought "okay, she just really screwed up on this one..." Well, it seems to me there were plenty of moments for her to question what she was exactly doing...and why no one else stepped in to recognize the issues of this film, I'm not sure either.
@@popdissected4400 I heard there were no actual autistic people involved in the making of the film not even in an advisory role, I'm sure everyone else thought it was a typical Oscar bait movie so they all agreed to do it regardless of the consequences and eventually forgot about it as it took years for it to be released. I'm guessing the distribution companies did have an issue with it and didn't want to touch it.
@@popdissected4400 Sia was the co-writer, director, one of the producers and one of the editors of this movie. She also had positivity on the set. Along the way any time someone brought up issues they were ignored. I think it was after the trailer dropped (not totally sure when this happened) Sia asked a couple of autism advocacy groups to watch the movie. They came back to her with a list of concerns, she ignored all of them (was obviously expecting them to give it a glowing report like she kept saying the child mind institute did). It was pretty evident that she couldn't handle the smallest amount of questioning with the way that she reacted on twitter. It also revealed that whatever she considered research she knew less that you would learn with a quick google search. Her idea of research for Maddie for the role was to watch meltdown videos and she then copied stims and mannerisms from there. Maddie said that it was like learning dance moves. At no time did Sia think it relevant for Maddie to speak to someone autistic to understand the reasoning for the movements that she was going to be doing.
@@popdissected4400 I don't understand. Do you think Sia expended her money, time, and effort in order to be racist and mean against autistic people? Is it like she's an evil person?
@@kodi2701 I think you're the one being dramatic here all they said was they didn't like her anymore they never said they hated her or anything. They have the right to not support her
Blaming Maddie is wrong. Like you said, she was 14. She also broke down first day on set saying she was afraid people would think she was making fun of autistic people. This is all on *SIA*. She is the one who directed this and told Maddie to act like that. Don’t forget, she’s not really a trained actor. She’s an accomplished dancer. Sia fucked up. The hateful gaze shouldn’t be thrown towards Maddie. Hell, Kate Hudson isn’t getting any hate! All this Maddie blame is so misguided.
One of the sad things about this situation is that Sia doesn't seem to want to learn about the things she did wrong. How she acted was really immature.
I still love Sia and nothing will change my mind, but my god she really fucked up with this movie . Beyonce should just let her write songs in her basement
I didn't listen to the record. I figured there wasn't much point in talking about the actual music itself - it's far more important to talk about the film!
@@elasticdancer the whole "she didnt hire an autistic actor thing" bc there have been plently of shows and movies where non autistic people have played characters w/ autism (btw this is coming from someone who is autistic sooooo im not just some alistic or nerotypical person defending her)and it kind of frustrated me, bc i felt like if you didnt have autism, you didnt really have the right to defend her or slam her. And i could understand the whole not wanting to cast that little girl bc she found it "unpleasant and stressful". Bc as an autistic person, i probably would be in the same shoes as that little girl. But now, black face, curative restraints, alleged pedophilia, like....dude, i cant support this anymore, i will still support her music, just not her. After this whole scandal, her true colors are kinda starting to show, AND THEY AINT PRETTY!
She literally insulted millions of Autistic people online and you don’t think she’s a bad person? How you treat disabled people or service workers is a true sign of character.
@@floralcapacity7319 I'm not going to sit here and say she didn't do anything wrong because she did I'm not one of those people on Instagram that attack everyone that says she's disgusting I'm not even a fan of her anymore I only listen to her older music because it's better than whatever she makes nowadays I saw this film and it's honestly awful and I don't want any autistic person to watch this
@@floralcapacity7319 one mistake doesn't make anyone a bad person. People act like they are saints when everyone f**cs up at at least certain things. What happens when a criminal does on good thing? Does s/he become a good person all of a sudden?
7:44 The thing is, I don't believe Sia made Music for autistic people at all. If she had, she would've done more research on what kind of visuals to show. If she had, she would've hired non-neurotypical people, giving them the chance to be in films when they so rarely get that opportunity. Everything about this movie reeks of whatever the ableist equivalent of a white-savior movie is. She wants to get credit for creating groundbreaking, inclusive media without doing any of the work. This movie seems it's for neurotypical people to pat themselves on the back and bask in how woke they are, not a movie for autistic folks.
She made mistakes with this movie. Didn’t even watch it. But she is absolutly not a rascist. She has a good heart and she helped and inspirerd so many people with her music, lyrics and beautiful voice for so many years.
Good intentions doesn't mean that something isn't harmful though and Sia is still stuck on the she did it with the best of intentions and is upset that people don't appreciate her love letter to them to understand that.
I mean, if it was nominated on such a big award show like the golden globes and everyone is talking about it (even though it’s mostly criticism), it does confirm she is an influential artist... just saying.
I’m not sure if Maddie is to blame, as you’ve already said she was 14/15 while the film was made and with her relationship to the adults involved I wouldn’t doubt that the felt pressured to do it. If I remember correctly, Sia herself said in an interview that Maddie was crying about playing this role repeatedly...
One of the worst and most harmful reviews I have read so far based on the movie. I used to love this channel and now it's gone to sh*t. How dare you accuse SIA of such harmful remarks?? DISGUSTING!
Everything that they said you could see it written on the screen, the reason for that is that they were taking the remarks directly from articles or tweets. Sorry that you haven't seen them before but the people being told that their feedback wasn't valid didn't appreciate that either.
Well you did say in this video that we don't know what it's actually like to live with autism if we don't have it. So why are we assuming that every thing we think we know about autism is correct of we never experienced? Just because we might have heard some "facts" told to us by people who read up on it on the internet or what the news told us? Take their credible journalism as facts. I don't know if sia based her research on her experience and interactions with people who actually live with autism. And as an artist I'm sure what we considered to be borderline Parody it's the way sia has always created her art because in her music she does talk about some dark topics but her visuals are always artistic with showing the humor in every bad situation. Sia has experienced many dark moments in her life that a lot of people don't know. We would never tell Picasso how to create his art. So why are we tell Sia how to create hers.
We know because people with autism have said so? Idk what you mean exactly by your first statement but not all autistic people are non verbal/communicative??
Most of the people speaking out about this are autistic. And we, autistic people, know what it's like to have autism. Sia's portrayl is awful. It being her "art" doesn't make it okay. She litterally promoted using a restraining method called Prone restraint that's killed over a HUNDRED autistic people. And the portayl is just so harmful in so many ways
The answer is that Sia doesn't know either, the research she gave Maddie for the role was to watch meltdown videos, she didn't speak to anyone autistic. Maddie then learned the stims and mannerisms from that and from what Sia taught her and again Sia didn't talk to anyone autistic either hers was from observation.
There is a big difference, Dolly was Miley's godmother from birth and has been involved in her life but hasn't been the driving force behind a big chunk of her career. Sia has said that the best way that she could think of to keep Maddie safe is to keep creating projects for her and Sia also says that Maddie is her muse and that she doesn't want to create art if it doesn't have Maddie in it. Sia also advises Melissa on which projects Maddie should do.
IDK if there is enough information, but could you possibly do a video on Madonna’s Confessions era and how it was her last “good” era. As in it kind of saved her after American Life and everything that had to do with it was a success and highly praised? I know MDNA and Hard Candy had bigger tours, but their albums fell flat in terms of critical reception compared to COADF. I know you have done a video on her career being “over” but I have always been activated with her Confessions era
Thank you for talking about this - for making it about everything wrong with the actual film and not just the music from it. I’m so disappointed in Sia for all of this.
So what we've learnt of this movie that in the Music videos they made together they weren't being artisty with their facial expressions, they just thought thats how an autistic person would act. Nice one movie
The music videos within the movie Music are supposed to be Music's internal world. The facials that I have seen in the music clips online Maddie is doing the facial expressions that she has done in every Sia music video. Oh Body her movements are the most like the movements she is using in the 'real' world of the movie.
Casting a neurotypical person is not a problem in my opinion, casting should be based on who portrays a character best (just like casting a straight person as a gay role). For example, imagine every character with severe Tourette's would be played by someone with severe Tourette's. That being said, Sia obviously didn't pick Maddie because she is a good actress and the portrayal of autism is very problematic.
I think you are been too extreme in terms of the Sia/Maddie relationship, You said some things that are serious, and normal journalist would investigate. And yeah the movie is a complete joke, and probably this is the end of Sia, she said she had 3 albums that are already finished, and she had the intention of releasing and then retire, wich i think it's.going to be dificult. I just think people doesn't know the Sia pre-fame where she was poorly elocuent and very shy and akward. I do not justify her Twitter responses, but it's not a surprise for me.
So you think that it is normal for someone to say that Maddie is their muse and they don't want to create art if it doesn't contain Maddie. That is a lot of internalised pressure for Maddie. Sia is Maddie's godmother, she also says that she wants to keep Maddie safe and the best way that she could think of to do that is to keep making projects for her. The thing that was read out about Maddie snuggling with Sia was said by Maddie's mum Melissa. They also said that Maddie spent part of lockdown with Sia because she was by herself.
@@amandamandamands no i don’t say it’s normal i say let’s treat this thing as a more serious video. All the data that you wrote here it’s important but if this is 100% real well we should call the police. And not defending Sia cuz that would mean i believe in a TH-cam info video but this cuarantine Sia was also with her 3 kids, so it’s not that Maddie was the only girl in the house.
Why am I seeing no one comment about how Sia was sleeping in the same bed as a child? Hello, Michael Jackson?! This is VERY weird. I’ve never really been a Sia fan, not in a hating way but I just don’t really listen to her.
Wow - heaven forbid Maddie wants to work with someone else that’s not sia 😬 I feel like she’s typecasting herself at such a young age....I reckon this movie will be left off her CV 🤦♀️
There ARE autistic and non-autistic people that indeed are like the character portrayed by Maddie. To call it exaggerated mannerism and mockery I think is what is really gross.
The reason that people are saying that is because Sia and Maddie didn't talk to anyone autistic to understand why different movements and behaviours happen all they did was copy them. Maddie said it was like learning dance steps so for her it was the equivalent of performing choreography not doing a movement because it fulfilled a need. Creators have said that the way that Maddie was doing the movements reminds them of when they were at school and the way that people would mocking move in the playground when they were being bullied.
I don't think it's maddie's fault, the problem here is Sia, how tf do you release a movie that is so problematic? And this movie began filming in 2017 and it was released just now, how tf do u not do proper research to do better?? I mean she had enough time to do research and make changes to the screenplay. I think Sia was aiming to do something that only a few people can reach in the music industry for example black is king by beyonce, she thought she was doing something and it just failed terribly. So the backlash she's receiving it's completely understandable, also I think she's problematic overall so it's about time she's getting called out for something
I agree, her music is good, at least before this album, she's so talented but this movie was a mess and not because the plot that was trying to interested the audience, it was just bad and poorly executed and the music it isn't good, Sia has became kinda repetitive and childish with her music. I like some of her songs but just that.
I think calling a movie "harmful" is childish, to say the least. As long as there are no actual crimes being committed in the set. It's not real life, it's an artistic expression. In other words, It's only make-believe that no one is obliged to watch.
there were harms tho. Sia got super defensive when the community she was supposedly trying to help got mad at her bcuz of the trailer, which hurted a lot of people. and this is not a "dont watch if you dont like it" kind of situation. the movie has a LOT of things wrong and autistic people are right for calling her out on this situation, it's not fixed with not watching the movie and staying quiet when you feel like you're not being well represented
Looool! Is there anything that's more "first-world-problem", than blackface? 😂 Who cares if our elders' elders used to joke about black folks while wearing black make-up? They used to put lead in the gas they pump out to breathe in later... they didn't know any better. And if someone is using foundation or make-up that is in a darker shade than his/her skintone, let them do it, who cares? 😂 If black people wear lighter shades, I'm not feeling that they intentionally trying to mock me... jeeze... Do I have to start a white-face movement, or what? 😂😂
are you for real? blackface is not supposed to be ignored just because it happened years ago since, in fact, it still happens today (intentionally or unintentionally). it's like saying that we should not care about racism because it started a really long time ago. also, white face doesnt exist so it would be kinda dumb to start a movement about that
@@melonpeach9723 Wow... such a constuctive criticism... thanks... did it take a lot of brainpower for you to come up with that? why would me having another job "help" me in any way? I already have one, and still think the same...
Hi everyone, I want to state how this video is meant to explore issues people have seen with the film "Music", and this is not focused on the actual songs or tracks from the film. Additionally, since this video weaves between topics that may be highly sensitive to some, we all need to be extremely respectful with our open discourse. If at any point I unintentionally got information wrong or brought up a point that was heavily opinionated as opposed to just the facts, please let me know. Thank you all for watching friends, I hope we can all learn something from this ... 'film'.
I let you know that because of a bad movie about a girl with a severe case of nonverbal autism, you made half a video implying that Sia is a child abuser and potentially molester. And all of this to please a bunch of spoiled high-functioning autistic kids.
@@english3082 "High" and "low" functioning doesn't exist.
@@afairyist9981 forsooth, it doesn't
@@english3082 Huh?
@@afairyist9981 In the world of make-believe of HFA, there's no such thing
I don’t think Maddie is really at fault as
1. Her mother is notorious for pushing her to do things she doesn’t want to
2. Maddie was only 14
3. She was probably doing what she was directed to do(even though it was wrong[which I don’t think she knew at the time])
The way you guys talk seems like she committed a crime.
didn't she say in an interview that she cried because she doesn't want to act in the movie but Sia told her to just go for it?
I'm sure she doesn't have a say in this because she's young.
@@GABE_is_here Yeah, Maddie was literally aware that this was bad even as a child. Why couldn't the adults understand this as well?
I don't blame Maddie either, I just find it interesting she hasn't been vocal about the issues surrounding the film considering she's worked so close with Sia over the past decade. Maddie has ALWAYS been pushed throughout her adolescence, so I can only imagine the situation she was in during filming.
@@ranaevalentine9876 this is not fair. Maddie was playing a role and cried the entire first day because she didn’t want to offend or seem like she was making fun of. The issue doesn’t lay with Maddie portrayal, the issue lays with Maddie being cast in the first place. My brother acts very similar to Maddie’s facials and movements. It was going to always offend someone.
I feel like Maddie hasn’t been able to live her life. She’s always been surrounded by women with a large age gap from her own age. They have been overprotective of her and given her practically no control over her own life. I don’t blame her at all for anything involving this film. She’s never been put in a place to hone her critical thinking skills. So yeah, I blame the adults who directed this.
And, as someone who is on the autism spectrum (I have Aspergers), I don’t mind having neutral typical actors playing those with autism. *However*, you need to be careful. If you just go off of stereotypes, you’re going to cause more damage to the community than good. They really did a horrible job of researching the topic. For Sia to say that it’d be cruel for an autistic person to portray an autistic person in her film just goes to show that she had some sense of realization during the directing process that it was going to be stereotyped or exaggerated.
Sia worked with Autism Speaks for this film. If that doesn’t explain the horrible lack of research and knowledge on the topic I have no clue what does. This movie never should have been made.
@@veethebee5455 and
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WTF
at first i was like "don't cancel her, just inform her" then i realized she was actually aware of everything that she was doing and then it all went downhill
Same! I thought the exact same thing. I thought "okay, she just really screwed up on this one..." Well, it seems to me there were plenty of moments for her to question what she was exactly doing...and why no one else stepped in to recognize the issues of this film, I'm not sure either.
@@english3082 UM? 😭
@@popdissected4400 I heard there were no actual autistic people involved in the making of the film not even in an advisory role, I'm sure everyone else thought it was a typical Oscar bait movie so they all agreed to do it regardless of the consequences and eventually forgot about it as it took years for it to be released. I'm guessing the distribution companies did have an issue with it and didn't want to touch it.
@@popdissected4400 Sia was the co-writer, director, one of the producers and one of the editors of this movie. She also had positivity on the set. Along the way any time someone brought up issues they were ignored. I think it was after the trailer dropped (not totally sure when this happened) Sia asked a couple of autism advocacy groups to watch the movie. They came back to her with a list of concerns, she ignored all of them (was obviously expecting them to give it a glowing report like she kept saying the child mind institute did).
It was pretty evident that she couldn't handle the smallest amount of questioning with the way that she reacted on twitter. It also revealed that whatever she considered research she knew less that you would learn with a quick google search.
Her idea of research for Maddie for the role was to watch meltdown videos and she then copied stims and mannerisms from there. Maddie said that it was like learning dance moves. At no time did Sia think it relevant for Maddie to speak to someone autistic to understand the reasoning for the movements that she was going to be doing.
Never in a million years would I think Sia would make an offensive film, but she did that 🥴
Doing what no-one else could ever do, sets her self apart😍
True, shes so open mind.
So brave omg
Her voice is horrible to
I used to listen to Cheap Thrills every single Friday afternoon on the way home for the weekend. I had to stop doing that after this movie.
I'm so disappointed in sia for even doing this....it's so tone deaf
I really used to like her...I don't think I can say that anymore
@@popdissected4400 all humans make mistakes wtf, she didn't kill someone or sm like that-
@@popdissected4400 and trust me, I KNOW that what she did isn't it but y'all are so dramatic-
@@popdissected4400 I don't understand. Do you think Sia expended her money, time, and effort in order to be racist and mean against autistic people? Is it like she's an evil person?
@@kodi2701 I think you're the one being dramatic here all they said was they didn't like her anymore they never said they hated her or anything. They have the right to not support her
Blaming Maddie is wrong. Like you said, she was 14. She also broke down first day on set saying she was afraid people would think she was making fun of autistic people. This is all on *SIA*. She is the one who directed this and told Maddie to act like that. Don’t forget, she’s not really a trained actor. She’s an accomplished dancer. Sia fucked up. The hateful gaze shouldn’t be thrown towards Maddie. Hell, Kate Hudson isn’t getting any hate! All this Maddie blame is so misguided.
One of the sad things about this situation is that Sia doesn't seem to want to learn about the things she did wrong. How she acted was really immature.
I still love Sia and nothing will change my mind, but my god she really fucked up with this movie . Beyonce should just let her write songs in her basement
Dont stop this
🤣😂
Lmao I thought we were bashing an ablest’s music but I’m glad we’re talking about the movie🤮
I didn't listen to the record. I figured there wasn't much point in talking about the actual music itself - it's far more important to talk about the film!
@@popdissected4400 the music is shrill and anxiety inducing
sia was better in mid and late 2010s. now she comes off very weird to me. this is far beyond being creative and artistic.
At first i was defending her, now im just confused and kinda creeped out.
i’m sorry but how the hell was there a point where u were defending her?
@@elasticdancer the whole "she didnt hire an autistic actor thing" bc there have been plently of shows and movies where non autistic people have played characters w/ autism (btw this is coming from someone who is autistic sooooo im not just some alistic or nerotypical person defending her)and it kind of frustrated me, bc i felt like if you didnt have autism, you didnt really have the right to defend her or slam her. And i could understand the whole not wanting to cast that little girl bc she found it "unpleasant and stressful". Bc as an autistic person, i probably would be in the same shoes as that little girl. But now, black face, curative restraints, alleged pedophilia, like....dude, i cant support this anymore, i will still support her music, just not her. After this whole scandal, her true colors are kinda starting to show, AND THEY AINT PRETTY!
I'm glad you might be seeing some of the issues with it now, this film is very harmful to us ❤
@@afairyist9981 very true, its very harmful to the autistic community and the black community (bc of the black face scene)
I Don't think sia a Bad person but she's really fuck up with this movie
She literally insulted millions of Autistic people online and you don’t think she’s a bad person? How you treat disabled people or service workers is a true sign of character.
@@floralcapacity7319 I'm not going to sit here and say she didn't do anything wrong because she did I'm not one of those people on Instagram that attack everyone that says she's disgusting I'm not even a fan of her anymore I only listen to her older music because it's better than whatever she makes nowadays I saw this film and it's honestly awful and I don't want any autistic person to watch this
@@floralcapacity7319 one mistake doesn't make anyone a bad person. People act like they are saints when everyone f**cs up at at least certain things. What happens when a criminal does on good thing? Does s/he become a good person all of a sudden?
@@floralcapacity7319 she did not insult anyone ...
@@tala954 Yeah she did. Out of interest are you autistic?
7:44 The thing is, I don't believe Sia made Music for autistic people at all. If she had, she would've done more research on what kind of visuals to show. If she had, she would've hired non-neurotypical people, giving them the chance to be in films when they so rarely get that opportunity.
Everything about this movie reeks of whatever the ableist equivalent of a white-savior movie is. She wants to get credit for creating groundbreaking, inclusive media without doing any of the work. This movie seems it's for neurotypical people to pat themselves on the back and bask in how woke they are, not a movie for autistic folks.
She made mistakes with this movie. Didn’t even watch it. But she is absolutly not a rascist. She has a good heart and she helped and inspirerd so many people with her music, lyrics and beautiful voice for so many years.
but shes ableist
Good intentions doesn't mean that something isn't harmful though and Sia is still stuck on the she did it with the best of intentions and is upset that people don't appreciate her love letter to them to understand that.
huh, that "10 most influential female artists of the decade" aged quickly.
Well, she did write a lot of 2010 hits. She didn't screw up until now.
@@RhapsodyHC true, i guess i just can't look at her through the same lens any more.
I mean, if it was nominated on such a big award show like the golden globes and everyone is talking about it (even though it’s mostly criticism), it does confirm she is an influential artist... just saying.
YAAAY POP DISECTED FINALLY UPLOADED
Yesss!🎉
Call u the bad guy
Hey this is beyonce secret account telling u sia is still in my basement 😗🌸…
👀 ....
Pls, we don't want to see her again 😔🖐
She should stay there
Why tf did u let her direct a movie
Gurl
I’m not sure if Maddie is to blame, as you’ve already said she was 14/15 while the film was made and with her relationship to the adults involved I wouldn’t doubt that the felt pressured to do it. If I remember correctly, Sia herself said in an interview that Maddie was crying about playing this role repeatedly...
Maddie did nothing wrong.
ugh been rewatching ur vids for forever
Wellll thank you! 😊
One of the worst and most harmful reviews I have read so far based on the movie. I used to love this channel and now it's gone to sh*t. How dare you accuse SIA of such harmful remarks?? DISGUSTING!
Everything that they said you could see it written on the screen, the reason for that is that they were taking the remarks directly from articles or tweets. Sorry that you haven't seen them before but the people being told that their feedback wasn't valid didn't appreciate that either.
Well you did say in this video that we don't know what it's actually like to live with autism if we don't have it. So why are we assuming that every thing we think we know about autism is correct of we never experienced? Just because we might have heard some "facts" told to us by people who read up on it on the internet or what the news told us? Take their credible journalism as facts. I don't know if sia based her research on her experience and interactions with people who actually live with autism. And as an artist I'm sure what we considered to be borderline Parody it's the way sia has always created her art because in her music she does talk about some dark topics but her visuals are always artistic with showing the humor in every bad situation. Sia has experienced many dark moments in her life that a lot of people don't know. We would never tell Picasso how to create his art. So why are we tell Sia how to create hers.
The main people who criticized this film were people with autism and people who know friends and family with autism.
We know because people with autism have said so? Idk what you mean exactly by your first statement but not all autistic people are non verbal/communicative??
Most of the people speaking out about this are autistic. And we, autistic people, know what it's like to have autism. Sia's portrayl is awful. It being her "art" doesn't make it okay. She litterally promoted using a restraining method called Prone restraint that's killed over a HUNDRED autistic people. And the portayl is just so harmful in so many ways
The answer is that Sia doesn't know either, the research she gave Maddie for the role was to watch meltdown videos, she didn't speak to anyone autistic. Maddie then learned the stims and mannerisms from that and from what Sia taught her and again Sia didn't talk to anyone autistic either hers was from observation.
bestie uploaded its a good day!
That Sia and Maddy relationship is giving me Deedee and Gypsy vibes
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@@abirmohamed8343 OMG!!!!
1. It's not good.
The end.
LMAO, yeah...
It was great!
@@ramonrodriguez7473 Most of us autistic people don't think so. Out of interest are you yourself autistic?
@@afairyist9981 I sure am. And I loved it. I'm not one of these who gets offended by everything. It's so annoying.
@@ramonrodriguez7473 Okay then, good for you, but most of us don't think so
YES PLEASE KEEP POSTING!!!
To be honest, reagardless of the film, i do believe Sia has a special connection with Maddie Ziegler. Like Miley and Dolly.
I agree. I see nothing wrong with them having this connection. This review is ridiculous
There is a big difference, Dolly was Miley's godmother from birth and has been involved in her life but hasn't been the driving force behind a big chunk of her career. Sia has said that the best way that she could think of to keep Maddie safe is to keep creating projects for her and Sia also says that Maddie is her muse and that she doesn't want to create art if it doesn't have Maddie in it. Sia also advises Melissa on which projects Maddie should do.
not sia being a perv😭😭 omfg she wants her so bad... PLEASE
ew gurl stfu, she's infertile and just feels motherly to maddie! what is wrong with y'all?
1000 forms of fear is one of my favourite albums of all time. But this really changed my opinion on sia
This is sad for me because I am a big Sia fan, but she screwed herself over by being ignorant. 😔 😔 😔
I can’t believe this
I honestly loved her music but now I refuse to listen to it anymore knowing what sia has done to make this film
IDK if there is enough information, but could you possibly do a video on Madonna’s Confessions era and how it was her last “good” era. As in it kind of saved her after American Life and everything that had to do with it was a success and highly praised? I know MDNA and Hard Candy had bigger tours, but their albums fell flat in terms of critical reception compared to COADF. I know you have done a video on her career being “over” but I have always been activated with her Confessions era
I wouldn’t be surprised in sia is sexually abusing that girl. The intimacy of their relationship is not appropriate
...and all of this because of a bad movie
@@english3082 the thing that made me feel this way is that they have slept in the same bed. That’s weird, reminds me of Michael Jackson
What a ridiculous comment. Smh 🤦🏻♂️
Thank you for talking about this - for making it about everything wrong with the actual film and not just the music from it. I’m so disappointed in Sia for all of this.
I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but could you do more videos on Melanie Martinez & Lorde? Those are my favorite two artists.
Music! Makes the people! Come together! Yeah!!!
I’m surprised the this video isn’t just the entire movie
First thansk for using your platform hope you use it more problems like Middle East and more if you want
I will always try my best ❤️
So what we've learnt of this movie that in the Music videos they made together they weren't being artisty with their facial expressions, they just thought thats how an autistic person would act. Nice one movie
The music videos within the movie Music are supposed to be Music's internal world. The facials that I have seen in the music clips online Maddie is doing the facial expressions that she has done in every Sia music video. Oh Body her movements are the most like the movements she is using in the 'real' world of the movie.
Casting a neurotypical person is not a problem in my opinion, casting should be based on who portrays a character best (just like casting a straight person as a gay role). For example, imagine every character with severe Tourette's would be played by someone with severe Tourette's. That being said, Sia obviously didn't pick Maddie because she is a good actress and the portrayal of autism is very problematic.
I think you are been too extreme in terms of the Sia/Maddie relationship, You said some things that are serious, and normal journalist would investigate.
And yeah the movie is a complete joke, and probably this is the end of Sia, she said she had 3 albums that are already finished, and she had the intention of releasing and then retire, wich i think it's.going to be dificult. I just think people doesn't know the Sia pre-fame where she was poorly elocuent and very shy and akward. I do not justify her Twitter responses, but it's not a surprise for me.
So you think that it is normal for someone to say that Maddie is their muse and they don't want to create art if it doesn't contain Maddie. That is a lot of internalised pressure for Maddie. Sia is Maddie's godmother, she also says that she wants to keep Maddie safe and the best way that she could think of to do that is to keep making projects for her. The thing that was read out about Maddie snuggling with Sia was said by Maddie's mum Melissa. They also said that Maddie spent part of lockdown with Sia because she was by herself.
@@amandamandamands no i don’t say it’s normal i say let’s treat this thing as a more serious video. All the data that you wrote here it’s important but if this is 100% real well we should call the police. And not defending Sia cuz that would mean i believe in a TH-cam info video but this cuarantine Sia was also with her 3 kids, so it’s not that Maddie was the only girl in the house.
I really miss the old intro. 😢
Me too kind 😅
Why am I seeing no one comment about how Sia was sleeping in the same bed as a child? Hello, Michael Jackson?! This is VERY weird. I’ve never really been a Sia fan, not in a hating way but I just don’t really listen to her.
Imma still love maddie and Leslie Odom jr no matter what
I still love Sia much ❤️
Give us a hint about the subject of the next video👀💞
I love your Videos.
Wow - heaven forbid Maddie wants to work with someone else that’s not sia 😬 I feel like she’s typecasting herself at such a young age....I reckon this movie will be left off her CV 🤦♀️
There ARE autistic and non-autistic people that indeed are like the character portrayed by Maddie. To call it exaggerated mannerism and mockery I think is what is really gross.
The reason that people are saying that is because Sia and Maddie didn't talk to anyone autistic to understand why different movements and behaviours happen all they did was copy them. Maddie said it was like learning dance steps so for her it was the equivalent of performing choreography not doing a movement because it fulfilled a need. Creators have said that the way that Maddie was doing the movements reminds them of when they were at school and the way that people would mocking move in the playground when they were being bullied.
Can you do a video on Shawn Mendes Wonder, because so far, I think it’s been kind of a flop.
I don't think it's maddie's fault, the problem here is Sia, how tf do you release a movie that is so problematic? And this movie began filming in 2017 and it was released just now, how tf do u not do proper research to do better?? I mean she had enough time to do research and make changes to the screenplay. I think Sia was aiming to do something that only a few people can reach in the music industry for example black is king by beyonce, she thought she was doing something and it just failed terribly. So the backlash she's receiving it's completely understandable, also I think she's problematic overall so it's about time she's getting called out for something
It was written and announced in 2015, filmed in 2017 and they spent 3 years editing it.
you should do a video on charli X and alesia caras career!
please make a video about heartbreak weather! :)
MORE VIDS!!!??
FINALLY
😃 👋
Is Fifth Harmony gonna be next????
Still waiting on a vid about Halsey
I agree, her music is good, at least before this album, she's so talented but this movie was a mess and not because the plot that was trying to interested the audience, it was just bad and poorly executed and the music it isn't good, Sia has became kinda repetitive and childish with her music.
I like some of her songs but just that.
I think calling a movie "harmful" is childish, to say the least.
As long as there are no actual crimes being committed in the set. It's not real life, it's an artistic expression. In other words, It's only make-believe that no one is obliged to watch.
Something can be harmful without being illegal.
@@bascal133 ?
@@english3082 yes?
@english thank you. I agree 💯
there were harms tho. Sia got super defensive when the community she was supposedly trying to help got mad at her bcuz of the trailer, which hurted a lot of people. and this is not a "dont watch if you dont like it" kind of situation. the movie has a LOT of things wrong and autistic people are right for calling her out on this situation, it's not fixed with not watching the movie and staying quiet when you feel like you're not being well represented
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Is there anything that's more "first-world-problem", than blackface? 😂
Who cares if our elders' elders used to joke about black folks while wearing black make-up? They used to put lead in the gas they pump out to breathe in later... they didn't know any better.
And if someone is using foundation or make-up that is in a darker shade than his/her skintone, let them do it, who cares? 😂
If black people wear lighter shades, I'm not feeling that they intentionally trying to mock me...
jeeze...
Do I have to start a white-face movement, or what? 😂😂
are you for real? blackface is not supposed to be ignored just because it happened years ago since, in fact, it still happens today (intentionally or unintentionally). it's like saying that we should not care about racism because it started a really long time ago.
also, white face doesnt exist so it would be kinda dumb to start a movement about that
you need a job
@@melonpeach9723 Wow... such a constuctive criticism... thanks... did it take a lot of brainpower for you to come up with that?
why would me having another job "help" me in any way? I already have one, and still think the same...
@@laszlosebok4100 Instead of focusing on getting another job, you should take on school part-time. It would be very effective.
@@melonpeach9723 So I should live my life as I'm living it right now... amazing. What an advice...
Wow you all need to get a life! sO pRoBlEmAtIc
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Sia is a fad tbh
Sia has always been overrated. Hope she's cancelled.
I HOPE YOU ARE CANCELLED!