These 5 E-bikes Are The BEST In Their Category
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- With the help of e-bike expert, Eilis from the Electroheads channel, Jack takes a look at five of the finest e-bikes on sale today.
00:00 Intro
1:31 Folding bike
2:57 Commuter bike
4:51 Budget bike
6:17 Cargo bike
8:18 Wildcard bike
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having a haibike trekking 4, I cannot stress how important a pannier rack is... so much better than a rucksack and if you need to carrier more you can add a rucksack. I use a brae bag on mine which is really easy to get on and off.
True. It took me years to realise how much nicer panniers were. Hardly ever cycle with a rucksack now (only mountain biking).
Great to see collaboration between 2 of my favourite channels.
Eilish is the best! Jacks ok too.
I was all ready to challenge Fully Charged having the bona fides to make this judgement, and then you went and invite Eilis. Well played!
Hi; I am disabled - I have little or no sense of balance, so need a trike; I am also pretty weak as I also suffer from chronic fatigue 9amongst many other issues), and live in a hilly area.
I have found it impossible to find a suitable electrically assisted trike that is road legal in the UK and doesnt cost £5,000; it would be great if the Everything Electric team could do a guide for people like me; who would love to keep riding, but are finding equipment info impossible to find/decipher.
As you probably know trikes are expensive anyway (not so many people want them), electric even more so. However I think there are some that are lower priced than 5k. A quick google suggests that you will probably end up paying about 2-3k for an upright trike - recumbents are more expensive. So there does seem to be some trikes out there that would fit your needs. As you say you are in a hilly area - definitely look for mid-drive motors.
I was thinking dur 'Electroheads' is where I go for advice on ebikes, and low and behold up pops Eilis. I thought 'well its about time you guys got together' so well done you Jack you little charmer!! lol
Of course these are five e-bikes that Electroheads actually sell themselves.
Great collaboration from 2 of my favourite channels. 👏
I was just about to say the same🙂
This is one thing I'm looking forward to doing at the show on Fri, want to give some e-bikes a go. I think I need one in Bristol...
Great camera work and presentation! Thank you!
Right up for testing a couple of these this weekend! Excellent, timely info.
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
Great collab, getting the specialist knowledge of Eilis on the E Bikes. An interesting article and great to know we can have an E bike that we don't need to pedal!
👍Great range of bikes! thanks!
Loving that ebikes are coming with belt drive now
Great reunion 👍
Very fun, you two!
Aaahhh - that priceless Electroheads G-Whizz episode. Absolute comedy gold! Highly recommended for a really good laugh.
OMG THE COLLAB!❤
Pity you don't give the motor power battery power and pricing range for each bike.
It's very "all over the place" funnily enough.
Simples to insert on eth screen each time a bike pops up.
Motor 250W - 500Wh battery - 36V - Range 27 - MSRP between A & B for example.
This video only really shows 5 different sorts of E-Bikes for different uses.
Thanks for the video. Please consider doing a similar one on Electric Mopeds. Keen to see more reviews of the Segway E300SE and its competitors.
Have any of these bike's got regenerative braking to back up the normally very poor bike brakes especially if they re trying to stop a larger load or a machine that is going faster?
More ebike reviews please especially those that can replace a car for every day use.
Thumb up for Tenways. Really nice bikes.
Thank you.
Great video
Yey, Eilish and Jack together again!
Where was the motor in the first bike, range?
I've owned many good ebikes but none like these which are more for extreme cases or for style. Most people just need a boring bike with mudguards, disk brakes, flat handlebars and a rear rack, and a high torque motor with a torque sensor priced less than £1500.
Folding bikes need to be carried often so must be light and quick to fold so electric battery etc. may negate the whole nature of the commuter folder. Just accept that strong ebikes with big batteries will be heavy.
Yes!
Was confused for a few seconds when I started watching this video and saw Eilish :)
tenways stopped shipping to the UK :(
you need to do an expo in Milton Keynes as we have 100s of miles of designater redways all over MK. lots of Ebikes about.
Never heard of any of those! But, unlike Imogen, I could understand what Eilis was saying!
I've never heard of those either. But just like Imogen, I could understand what Eilis was saying!
Was expecting Imogen and got Eilis and Jack. I'm now confused. In a good way.
Hmm ... might I suggest you think "frame size"?
Consider, a frame which might only hold 2 or possibly 3 AA cells, at most, might not be worth building ...
Just a thought.
Very exciting to see a throttle system available under the EAPC regulations
I'm curious- what's the price range of a decent consumer bicycle, unpowered, in the UK? Not the fancy racing bikes. I'm curious how this compares to a Walmart bike here in the Central USA , to give some numerical perspective.
A decent bike is about £350. You can pay down to about £150 but that's not what I'd call 'decent'. It will work, but it will be heavy, none of the bits will last that long, you'll get punctures and brakes won't be very good etc. Spend 350+ if you possibly can and get something decent (or go second-hand. you can get a £1000 bike for £400 with nice things like hub gears)
3 out of 5 belt drive. One day the whole bike market will be like that I hope. It's been a long time coming but I'm seeing more and more belt-drive bikes.
Folding bike, commuter bike, conversion kit bike, cargo bike.. (which doesn't look like it can hold that much cargo)
But no mountainbike.
All of this yet you didn't bother to put product names or links in the description. Ffs.
Why was there nothing on build quality and ability to stop
See you tomorrow :)
2:24 pros and cons for carbon belt drives please.
7:54 18 nM? 5 nM is finger tightening a screw.
80 Nm, not 18
Belt drives are very low maintainence. No oiling, no cleaning, no rusting. This is using low/mid power motorcycle tech.
Have you ever looked at e-assisted velomobiles? I have 2 velomobiles, 1 with e-assist and 1 without. My non-assisted one is actually slightly faster because or better aerodynamics. The e-assist is just handy when going uphill or pulling away from lights and means that its average speed is typically higher, except on a very flat route. When I bought the battery I thought I would need a big one because velomobiles are relatively heavy (25-35 Kg) so I bought the biggest I could (19.2Ah) but I have done an 80 mile ride and still had half the battery left so range is similar to some electric cars. The motor is only needed very rarely and the aerodynamics (Cd of only 0.08 on my non-assisted one) means that once you get up to speed (20mph+ even with luggage onboard) it is very easy to maintain it.
The best is Greyp by Rimac Group ❤😊
Vanmoof S5
Twist and go RULES!!!
UK needs to get with the program!
*Crossover/Re-united*
⚡️🤙🏽🤟🏽⚡️
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As a car driver and cyclist I want to see delivery ebikes require the riders to pass a DVLA driving test and mandatory insurance (unless they already have to and I'm just unaware) as they are definitely a danger for other road users. Of course they are not the only ones as plenty of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians are also a menace.
All the best everyone, even the delivery ebike folk. 😉
You two look so good together ❤️
what about e-mtbs?
I've stopped even considering eBikes because of pneumatic tyres. Ebikes tech has changed bikes quite a bit but their tyres have not. In my area I was getting constant punctures and I will never fix a punctured tyre again. I use an eScooter at the moment with non pneumatic tyres so I don't know why they can't do that with eBikes.
Probably a weight and production cost thing
You can put a solid tyre on your bike if you like but the ride is never as nice. Less efficient too but I guess that doesn;t really matter for an e-bike. But if you buy decent tyres punctures are very rare. I've been using Marathons for years now (or cityjet on 26"/590 wheels). I get a puncture maybe once every 3 years.
@@xxwookey I have tried all those options. So called puncture proof tyres were useless. Some bike makers get branded tyres so I will have to wait until they get the types of tyre I was looking for. Tyre manufacturers like Bridgestone and others have been showing concepts like “Air Free Concept” for years that they said were coming but still haven't...that is what I am waiting for because like I said I will never fix a pucture tyre ever again and nor will I need to with my eScooter. The same tech will be used in other vehicles like cars but again they still haven't arrived yet.
@@SlayerEddyTV No pneumatic tyre is 'puncture proof', but the good ones are really good. What are you doing with your bikes that is giving you such a problem? - cycling through a nail-supply trench or something?
Like I say I can't remember when I last got a puncture, using Schwalbe Marathons. Might be 3 years ago, might be 5, and I do 3000km/yr. The Marathon Plus is even thougher than the Marathon. There are other good tyres too.
Still, sounds like you are set on solid tyres. They do exist - just buy some. I don't expect manufacturers to start supplying them by default because they are just not as comfortable or efficient. For the same reason of efficiency cars are not going to be moving to airless tyres anytime soon either. I've had two car tyre punctures in the last 20 years/120,000 miles. Not really a huge problem.
@@xxwookey Nothing...just cycling in my area on cycle tracks. I'm ok with my eScooter for now but I do prefer cycling. I'm just not looking for a eBike with air tyres. It just seems like whenever I go through and underpass it is usually glass and other stuff that was getting me a puncture almost everytime I went out, I thought it was me just not clearing the tyre properly when I needed to repair it but no it was just sharp stuff everywhere I go. Nah not solid tyres, something like the NASA airless tyres made with the company called The Smart Tire Company. Plus I have a condition which means it is impossible for me to put pressure on my hands so I couldn't repair a tyre if I wanted to, so like I said I will never fix a air tyre again. It will be airless tyres or airless tyres, they are just taking longer than I thought to arrive.
Bees are not dangerous Jack (sorry anyone with a bee sting allergy)!
The AGO folding bike looks like really great value, and good to see you promoting belt drive bikes and Enviolo internal hub gears.
probably attracted because he's scarlet oh sorry!
They still hurt!
I'm SO glad to see coverage of non-EVcar vehicles on the Everything Electric Show. But I look at this video with my own bias of what I want from an EV bike and still don't see it. Of course UK is severely nerfed in what a EV bike is allowed to be. So still DIYing my own bikes. (basic premise for me is close to zero repair as possible, durable/long lasting parts (current bike parts suck) and power enough for steep hills around me. )
4/5 are rear hub motors, meaning no need to cycle. The one crank motor example is over £3000! That's the price of a second hand car. Absolute nonsense.
Stop the "music" !
I like my 1000W MTB that goes 45kph, glad I don't live in the UK!
Why? Everyone rides them over here, in fact most delivery food drivers use them.
The law is so rarely enforced.
Boost: 648 pounds. WOW. ...budget.....option......................................
The wildcard is not an ebike. I don't care about the BS legal loopholes. It's inarguably a moped.
that pedibal cruiser company is taking the mick £1800 for a heavy low power short range (12.8ah) bike = FCK NO. you can shove that right up there.
except for the cargo bike they're all ghetto hub motor bikes
Not one of the five is a brand-name mid-drive model (eg. Shimano or Bosch motor). Which means not a one of them can be fully serviced in most bike shops. Which, if you’re not a do-it-yourselfer, isn’t great. And means many of these will end up as e-waste rather than being repaired, once something goes wrong that’s outside the skills of the owner or the willingness of a bike shop to make an attempt (despite a lack of readily available parts and service documentation for their electric systems). This is probably the only Everything Electric video I’ve hit “dislike” on. Ridiculous for a supposedly pro-environment channel. I know not everyone can afford a new brand name mid-drive e-bike, but not everyone can afford a heat pump or an electric car either. It doesn’t change the environmental calculation. To avoid as much e-waste as possible, I believe we should only be promoting e-bikes that can be fully serviced in most bike shops.
And how are totally proprietary, incompatible motors and batteries 'more serviceable' than standard, interchangeable kit? The lack of standards in motors is already a disaster if your primary concern is repairability. We agree that repairability is good, but the idea that 4 or 5 incompatible frame mounts and motor suppliers who won't even agree on a battery connector, or make new models compatible with the old mounts, is 'good' is ridiculous. Are you selling Bosch motors or something?
Mid-drive e-bikes are at least twice as efficient as hub motor e-bikes. Which means much longer service life for the battery on a mid-drive, all other things being equal. Which means less e-waste. The gears act as a transmission for the motor on a mid-drive, whereas the hub motor is transmission-less. Which means the steeper the hill, the larger the cargo load, the heavier the rider, the worse the headwind, the better the mid-drive is over the hub motor. Combine that with most hub motors being pretty inexpensive and no-name, and hub motor e-bikes are an e-waste disaster and should not be promoted on environmental channels IMO.
Twice as efficient? Motors are motors and they are all pretty efficient. Pretty sure a hub motor is more than 50% efficient so there is no way a mid-drive can be twice as much as they are not more than 100% efficient.
I've got a hub motor from 2007 that is still working so they aren't necessary an e-waste disaster either. Indeed, at leats the mountain-bike people have endless trouble with hub motors that only last 18 months and are very hard to get repaired so they _do_ have an e-waste problem. Mid motors _are_ technically better but the proprietary mounts/controls and batteries along with regular product churn is producing a lot of unrepairable stuff and whole bikes that have to be thrown away when only one bit of the electronics broke. At least hub motors are standard and can be swapped so I don't think this is anything like as one-sided as you make out.
Hub motors allow for regenerative braking, therefore allowing a lighter and smaller battery to operate with the same range, depending on the condition. Smaller battery, less e-waste.
@@TheRybka30 In theory, yes. In practice, no. The average hub motor bike weighs 20-30 lbs more than the average mid-drive bike, completely negating any efficiency advantage. Plus, we're talking about arresting hundreds of pounds of e-bike and rider, not thousands of pounds like an e-car, so the amount of potential regen is very small. Finally, what regen is done is generally dumped into the tiny e-bike battery so quickly that it ages the battery faster than ideal. So regen on e-bikes doesn't make sense, overall.
@@xxwookey I took a mid-drive with a throttle and went up a hill with it in a bad gear, and the display was showing it drawing about 575 watts to do it. I did it again in a better gear and it was taking about 300 watts to do it. Had the hill been steeper, or the chosen gear combinations more/less optimal, I could have got an even greater disparity. On a mid-drive your gears act like a transmission for the motor. With a hub motor, the slower the wheel turns the less effective it will generally be at getting you up the hill. A mid-drive motor doesn't suffer this problem at all.
@@xxwookey Hub motors aren't standard, they vary between geared and non-geared in broad terms, and then vary further within those categories when you get down to brass tacks. And beyond that, the problem is getting system-specific parts if the company goes out of business, or just loses interest in supporting old models. That could in theory happen with either hub motor or mid-drive, but in practical application it seems to happen a lot more with hub motor. Unless you're prepared to swap out 100% of the electric components if necessary, having a hub motor is not guarantee of repairability.
Electricity is stored in batteries, not Bat Trees. You people present in this area all the time and can not say the name of a key component properly?
How about a selection for older people? Just want to get about locally and not speed, fashion, freaks. Not city centre or mountains!
EBikes - good for cargo bikes, the elderly, the seriously unfit, and the lazy. Otherwise, a waste of energy and resources.
Well that describes most of the British population.
Where's the problem?
I am a keen bike rider who uses both electric and standard.....I am not lazy or unfit by any measure
It depends on my needs of the day (work run, shopping, fitness etc....), as to what style of bike I grab at the time. I ride and enjoy it regardless.Your comment is a little misguided as it contradicts a number of people worldwide who are definitely not lazy etc. I also will say that bike snobs forget that if people ride a bike (any style), that is a good thing for health and environment (no pollution etc.).
@bradw8964 riding an ebike for a trip that could otherwise be just as well done by a bike is terrible for the environment- a waste of electricty. Just as using those bloody awful e-scooters instead of walking is a massively regressive step. Ebikes are, by and large, a marketing gimmick. UK cycling was booming, well before the rise of ebikes. The vast majority of the population don't need an ebike, a bike will serve them just as well, aside from the outliers I described. Like i said, they're a marketing invention.
@@ewanbent9028 if you can ride a 60k round trip to work every day on a normal bike in all weather without burning out, my hat comes off to you..... I beg to differ fully on your remarks as I feel you have completely misunderstood the nature of ebikes and the benefits they offer for a wide range of people with a wide range of needs. A traditional bike has evolved for a reason (as do cars etc). The style of comments you make smell of the same type of ofal that comes from the anti EV lobby groups who simply do not understand (by choice?) the real data that supports the benefits vs costs. Ebikes can and do reduce cars and petrol motorbikes.on the road- therefore less resources used (you can't argue an ebike uses the same amount of resources as a car or motorbike....surely?). Just a simple example of one resource debunking argument. The waste of resources and "just use your muscles" arguments are shallow, anti-chamge and baseless. Now, where did I park my horse.....?
I ride a regular bike to work most days and it would be nice to not have to work so hard on the way home.