I pulled line on the same spot, stock full size ZR2, and I still sleep good at night. Dont sweat it! I didnt know there were fake and real tires out there. You learn something new everyday. Great vid!
Ah nice vid! I'm a Raptor guy so I prefer to do open high speed trails but rock crawling is great too! This trail looks so narrow so a full size truck probably won't fit? Can you enter the open trail section at 10:06 without having to go through the narrow trail? I'd love to do the open field section.
Some guys have fit full size trucks through there. Overall it's not terrible but it's definitely got some pinch points. The other half of the trail that we descended to comes out to an easier/wider trail but it's designated as a one way trail so technically yes, but not the correct way to do it..
@@123yrmama I've nearly de-beaded at 18 before so I tend to play it safe. Some beadlocks and I'd take it a lot further obviously. I also think the tire you're using can factor in based on how beefy the sidewalls are.
@@WestonsWanderings Ya in that case it's better to be safe. I like a narrow rim it locks the bead on the rim i think. I've run that trail after rain to and it's quite slippy on those rounded boulders and mud.
@@WestonsWanderings Red Cone is rated as a difficult trail 5 of 10. not easy for the type of rigs and outfit you guys are running. U knocked it out regardless.
@@WestonsWanderingsI’ve been jeeping the tougher trails in Colorado and Utah for 30+ years, but not the crazy extreme trails. (Just for reference, if you have any familiarity with Moab, I will do stuff like Poison Spider/Golden Spike, but not Pritchett or Cliffhanger. In Colorado I’ve done Poughkeepsie Gulch and Black Bear Pass in the San Juans many, many times) I air down to 12, usually; anything below 20 will help. But don’t go much lower than 12 unless you get bead lockers. Besides smoothing your ride (your passengers will greatly appreciate that), airing down will change your approach angles slightly and (mostly importantly) create more contact with the surface area as the tread contours to the rocks. I’d say it looks like your tires are ok for this terrain, but a bit more aggressive tread will help. I run Goodrich Mud-Terrain/TA KM3 on my TJ Rubicon and have been happy with them for what I do. You definitely don’t need swampers like someone else mentioned, not for Colorado, anyway, because you just don’t get into mud-bogging situations around here.
I won't do mud tires because they are terrible in snow & daily driving.. I was at 20 PSI here. Probably could have gone down some more in this scenario though.. @@jimkidd53
@@kjsgardenI agree. I am familiar with those Utah trails. We did Gold Bar Rim up to the waterfall, just don't think we had the angles for that one. I've done Wheeler Lake and Poughkeepsie gulch and never got into this situation so it was a little disappointing but I am always up for testing new tires. My complaint with the mud terrains is that they aren't good in snow at all unless it's super thick or daily driving.
@@kevinw7347 To where? Lol We didn't go to the top and turn around, we kept going to the other side of the pass. I do plenty of hikes but this one was meant to be an offroad adventure and it was!
I pulled line on the same spot, stock full size ZR2, and I still sleep good at night. Dont sweat it!
I didnt know there were fake and real tires out there. You learn something new everyday.
Great vid!
Ha, I feel better knowing I am not alone 😂 Thanks!
@@WestonsWanderings 😅
looks fun! better trust your brakes on the descent!
Good video. Thanks for posting
Thanks for watching!
@3:45, where the heck where ya on THAT one, spotter?
Ah nice vid! I'm a Raptor guy so I prefer to do open high speed trails but rock crawling is great too! This trail looks so narrow so a full size truck probably won't fit? Can you enter the open trail section at 10:06 without having to go through the narrow trail? I'd love to do the open field section.
Some guys have fit full size trucks through there. Overall it's not terrible but it's definitely got some pinch points. The other half of the trail that we descended to comes out to an easier/wider trail but it's designated as a one way trail so technically yes, but not the correct way to do it..
regear and swampers. you'll be fine. pulling cable is not defeat.
Gears were ordered 3 months ago 🙄 Definitely cant wait so I can upsize those tires.
What were you aired down to?
I was down to 20 psi on this one.
@WestonsWanderings 20 psi is not really aired down tho. I'd go 16 or 15 makes a huge difference on traction but you really don't loose any clearance.
@@123yrmama I've nearly de-beaded at 18 before so I tend to play it safe. Some beadlocks and I'd take it a lot further obviously. I also think the tire you're using can factor in based on how beefy the sidewalls are.
@@123yrmama Probably would have been worth trying to air down a little more in this case though..
@@WestonsWanderings Ya in that case it's better to be safe. I like a narrow rim it locks the bead on the rim i think. I've run that trail after rain to and it's quite slippy on those rounded boulders and mud.
Red Cone ?
Yep!
@@WestonsWanderings Red Cone is rated as a difficult trail 5 of 10. not easy for the type of rigs and outfit you guys are running. U knocked it out regardless.
Thanks, I have done harder trails so it felt a little disappointing but it happens! @@EvergreenOG
Get some real tires and air down. That's not a difficult trail.
I agree, it's not a difficult trail. What would you consider "real" tires and to what PSI?
@@WestonsWanderings I'm running Nitto mud grapplers at 6 to 8 psi with bead lock wheels. On standard wheel you just up the psi a bit.
@@WestonsWanderingsI’ve been jeeping the tougher trails in Colorado and Utah for 30+ years, but not the crazy extreme trails. (Just for reference, if you have any familiarity with Moab, I will do stuff like Poison Spider/Golden Spike, but not Pritchett or Cliffhanger. In Colorado I’ve done Poughkeepsie Gulch and Black Bear Pass in the San Juans many, many times)
I air down to 12, usually; anything below 20 will help. But don’t go much lower than 12 unless you get bead lockers.
Besides smoothing your ride (your passengers will greatly appreciate that), airing down will change your approach angles slightly and (mostly importantly) create more contact with the surface area as the tread contours to the rocks.
I’d say it looks like your tires are ok for this terrain, but a bit more aggressive tread will help. I run Goodrich Mud-Terrain/TA KM3 on my TJ Rubicon and have been happy with them for what I do. You definitely don’t need swampers like someone else mentioned, not for Colorado, anyway, because you just don’t get into mud-bogging situations around here.
I won't do mud tires because they are terrible in snow & daily driving.. I was at 20 PSI here. Probably could have gone down some more in this scenario though.. @@jimkidd53
@@kjsgardenI agree. I am familiar with those Utah trails. We did Gold Bar Rim up to the waterfall, just don't think we had the angles for that one. I've done Wheeler Lake and Poughkeepsie gulch and never got into this situation so it was a little disappointing but I am always up for testing new tires. My complaint with the mud terrains is that they aren't good in snow at all unless it's super thick or daily driving.
Wanted to watch your video, but that music is too loud and your voice is too quiet.
Thanks for the feedback!
Get out and walk.
@@kevinw7347 To where? Lol We didn't go to the top and turn around, we kept going to the other side of the pass. I do plenty of hikes but this one was meant to be an offroad adventure and it was!
Why in the world is the wrangler running with the rear window open?
She left it open for her pup who was riding back there.