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Honestly a really good non pretentious analysis of the movie, probably the best on TH-cam. Good stuffs I luv this movie
something that really resonates with me in perfect blue as a woman, that i think is very personal to me and a lot of other people don't seem to experience, is the strong feminist themes. to me, so much of the movie is about the ways in which young girls in the industry are pushed and pulled in different directions, how their identity is boiled down to that of a pure angel or a wh*re. to me this movie is really about a woman reclaiming her identity from a world that wants her to fit into a certain box. of course this movie is insanely brilliant and there are many different meanings to it, but this is just a part of it that connects with me.
Perfect Blue is one of my favorite "film" films. By that I mean, the difference between a general audience film and something you might see on The Criterion Collection.
Kon's use of time and direction is so brilliant. Most films, when people say they "play with time", they usually mean lots of flashbacks and flash forwards. But in Perfect Blue, everything is still linear - it's just that the length between scenes and set pieces gets increasingly shorter and paced with increasing franticity. To the point that their stacking on top of each other, completely losing what was on the bottom. Dreams become reality become acting become dreams, and it's not until the VERY end we get an idea of what's been going on this whole time.
Also, the use of music!! Most of Perfect Blue's runtime is filled with either in-universe pop idol songs (appropriately mixed for distance from the camera), or silence/background noise. There's very few scenes where there is an actual OST behind it.
Tokyo Godfathers may be my favorite Christmas movie, but Perfect Blue is my favorite Satoshi Kon movie. Stunning direction all around, and I'm super, super, super happy you were finally able to experience it.
Great comment.
Does that tecnique have a name? I've seen it used in films but never in anime (admittedly, I don't watch much animation). It's a very effective tecnique to make the audience feel disoriented as the protagonist
@@sapinta I'm not sure if the technique as a whole has a name, but I'm sure the different transitions themselves have names. Most of them are match cuts, I believe.
I'm no expert on the matter, any more insight into PB's editing is going to be done by people smarter than I. lol.
The real plot twist is that Teeaboo hadn't watched Perfect Blue.
It took me 2-3 rewatches to fully understand everything/catch all the details and I don't think I've noticed anything more than what you talked about so don't worry about doing a good job analyzing media from now on.
yes!! satoshi kon is so wonderful!! 彼の作品は時々、とても気味が悪くて分かりにくいが、とても美しく、素晴らしい映像美があります！
please watch his other anime. his anime は今でも日本でとても評価されています。but kon satoshi was dead＞＜ He was young when he was dead !! 「パプリカ」「tokyo godfathers」「千年女優」←please watch other his anime!! from 日本with love ♡
When Kon passed away young, it was the gravest loss to the anime industry in history of the industry.
No exaggeration. He was one of the best film makers in Japan ever, and I don't just mean animation history.
This movie was so good on so many levels. ^_^
A couple of small things: the creepy doll you noticed near the beginning was a Kewpie doll. Kewpie Mayonnaise in Japan uses it as their image character. And another small aspect of Mima’s duality is show when she’s talking to her mom on the phone; she uses a distinctive countryside dialect but quickly switches to Tokyo/Standard Japanese dialect when the other phone call comes in. And too bad Rumi didn’t make her own webpage… it would have been called Rumi’s Room. ^_^
I miss Satoshi Kon every time I watch perfect blue. absolutely masterpiece.
1:57:18 "I don't know why this poster is shown here"
That's not a poster, that's a newspaper cutout of someone getting run over.
It's the punk that hit the stalker at the concert in the beginning. The suggestion here is that either Mi-mania or Rumi murdered him for his transgressions. It's the first sign of actual murder being committed.
Just in regards to one thing you missed. The newspaper clipping in the elevator about the hit and run has a picture that closely resembles the guy who threw the can at the stage CHAM was on and then started a fight with ME-Mania. The obvious implication, I think, is that ME-Mania hit him with a car in retaliation which might be what inspires Mima's dream of getting hit by a truck with him driving, given that she sees him outside the elevator right after she reads it and that he registers as a sinister figure in her mind long before she realizes his actual murderous intentions.
Edit: Woops did not watch far enough into the discussion, it seems. I do find the possible connection between that scene and when she herself is hit by a truck in what we assume is a dream still pretty interesting, though.
It is truly terrifying how after you put your image out there it can sort of become twisted by the perception of others and that way kind of start to have a life of its own. I feel like this movie was very ahead of it's time as this movie is still, if not more, relevant in nowadays society and environment of the internet and social media.
It was fun to get to watch your reaction to this! It's truly a great and unsettling movie.
Discussion 1:28:52
I feel like the scene where "fake Mima" reappears on stage to Me-Mania isn't just his fantasy, but Rumi herself crashing the song. You can see the rest of the audience cheer as well, while the two CHAM members clearly look disturbed.
On a side note that always has me deeply umm'ing, there's also a HUGE amount of strange overlap between this movie and the real-life fan obsessive killing attempt of Björk in 1996. Things like the letter bomb, the dynamic of a fan lovingly obsessed with a musical star who became deranged at the idea being made "unpure" (in Björk's case, being in a relationship) which also resulted in said musical star essentially undergoing a massive metamorphosis (Björk reinventing her approach in tone, music and image) feels almost scarily parallel.
Yet at the same time, it feels like that whole series of events takes place way too close to the production of the movie for it to be a deliberate influence on the writing to the degree of these massive similarities, (plus the fact that the movie is already based on the novel) so it could just be a terrifying set of coincidences that showed Kon/Takeuchi/Murai were dead-on with their commentary on the matter. Be it inspiration or coincidence, the result is genuinely harrowing.
This was something I never thought about omg. Rumi crashing the performance makes perfect sense and finally clears up why the other two singers looked so disturbed.
but it doesn't make much sense
why would fans cheer for a stranger on stage?
And why doesn't anyone mention that rumi simply vades the stage of the CHAM show for mima?
I watched this approx 4 years ago and here I am quite nice rewatch
Oh wow, this one...
I knew of perfect blue since i was a kid browsing through a magazine of upcoming movies and was immediately gripped by a picture of a pitiful looking woman smearing blood across her face. Kid me couldn't wrap his head around associating such a mature nature to "cartoons". Only found out later in my life the name of it and the gist of what it is, but somehow never really came around to watch it. Still kinda hesitant to, but i guess now's as good a time as any to get to it.
Took me like, 4 or 5 re-watchs, but I think I finally have a grip on which "illusion Mima"-scenes are actually illusions/imagination and which are Rumi in disguise! xD
Also something I only now noticed: I think Mima saving Rumi in the end was less about actually saving Rumi, but about Mima saving that past idol image of her's. Becouse the entire movie, she has tried to get rid of it, which lead her into all those terrible situations like that ra*e scene and that photo shoot. But in that moment, she doesn't see Rumi, but her past idol selfe. A version of herselfe that she tried to kill and burrie. And she saves it. It almost feels like she is finally accepting that, yes, this Mima is also part of me, even if she is in the past. And with accepting that, she is finally able to say "I'm real" after questioning for so long if she even is the real Mima or not.
One of my favorite films of all time and satoshi kon's best work imo. Also a movie that only gets better with every rewatch. I rewatch this movie once every 1-2 years and the theme "virtual mima" still gives me chills. This film was so ahead of its time with the influence of the internet aswell.
Satoshi Kon's next film, Millenium Actress, is the perfect movie to watch directly after Perfect Blue to compare the themes
OH MY GOD!! I screamed when i see you're doing reaction to Perfect Blue!! this is my fav anime movie ever and you're my fav reaction channel. im so glad you decide to watch it, plz watch Kon's other works too!
Teeaboo what a bad ass breakdown and dive into an amazing film!
I watched this when i was so young I thought the sex scene was "wrestling." Surprisingly I still find myself catching new things when i watch!
1:46:50 what I first saw in this scene was how much it looked like a flower, specially with his fingers looking like leaves around the bud that is Mima in the centre.
It reminded me of a water hyacinth to be exact. It says to me that this is the Mima he sees as the pure and ideal one. Also, the leaves don't just keep the bud surrounded but also protect it, similar to how the guy literally takes some hits a few moments later and is always stalking her.
I like your interpretation too. Speaks to how dense even the most simple visual imagery in this film is.
Watching with you for the first time and right before bedtime. I'd say this beats even the rainy day atmosphere. Happy nightmares
I find it interesting how you use the word metamorphosis since the original book its based of is called perfect blue a complete metamorphosis
When you uploaded this, I knew it's time that I started watching Kon's movies too. This was so amazing. I'm usually able to predict what is gonna happen next but I was totally caught off guard with this twist.
I know you've been gradually working through a lot of the Oshii/Kon stuff so I checked your MAL out, I'm surprised you never watched Innocence. I don't know if 2004 is too "new" for this slot necessarily though. It definitely fits the theme, at any rate. But I'm sure you probably have a dozen things downloaded already too.
"I'm surprised you never watched Innocence" hes not done watching them yet...
@@Pepe-dq2ib I'm surprised he's never watched Innocence because he watched its prequel, which was probably pre-channel since there's no reaction for it.
Adding to this, I think it would be a good idea for Teaboo to read Opus as well at some point. It's an interesting read.
@@themrrental2509 bruh, let's get this poppin. Paprika, Tekkonkinkreet and Noen, next.
Such a good movie
perfect blue is definitely found place in my heart not because of this glorious art style but the psychedelic scenario which so mysterious and interesting. It is pity there are so little anime like this or maybe thats what do perfect blue more special. Anyway I like your reaction. sometimes overreaction but it pardonably
Has teeaboo seen paprika yet? That movie is a whole different type of freaky
I just realized that the "No, I'm real" was said in Rumi's voice and there was a super short scene where "Rumi" was looking at her reflection in the mental hospital where her face looked like Mima's and I think it actually was. I think Rumi thinks she's the real Mima, while the real Mima is in the mental hospital
I didn't pay too much attention to this throughout, but I wonder if the Perfect Blue is the establishing shot of the sky after the time skip, after she's able to say "I am who I am".
the mask at 2:34:13 highly resembles the antagonis of satoshi kons manga Opus. unfortunately it never got finished, but its still a great read with only 2 volumes. and of course the story is also a psychological thriller and deals with some pretty cool stuff although not as mind fuckery as perfekt blue
not having a ending for me made it perfect
This film cut so deep. I guess Satoshi Kon must have been really empathic and too smart for himself to write something like that.
I always enjoy your review a lot!! If you like a twisted story, I recommend "Mononoke (モノノ怪)". Based on your numerous knowledge, I believe you will do great reviews. The first story (Ep1&2 Zashiki-Warashi) can be difficult to be recognized. So, may be watching the second story (Ep3&4 Umibozu) helps you to get the idea.
I held off after seeing the notification, but have been super excited to watch along with
Edit: HAHA! SHIT WAS FUCKED, RIGHT? Haven't seen it in about 19 years, and it freakin STICKS.
私もこの映画好き🤗
うる星やつらビューティフルドリーマー
ぜひリアクション&レビューをお願いします。
古いので、海外の人はあまり知られてないかもです。
押井守が監督した。劇場版です。
URUSEIYATSURA Beautiful Dreamer
Director: Mamoru Oshii.
I think this is a work that western anime fans probably tend to overlook.
The original story is a slapstick comedy, but it is a good example of a director messing things up when it comes to an animated film.
The comedy show's characters work well together to create a strange and absurd visual world.
Its a CLASSIC!!!
I'd love to see your reactions and reviews.
i think people miss this a lot but the movie is very much about a woman's autonomy. mimi not once throughout the film has her own say in things except for the very end when she declares that she is who she is. everything is decided for her primarily by men and she feels pressured to go along with everything due to so many socially complex pressures placed on her. The stalker was nothing more than a pawn for the main antagonist, rumi, aka a red herring because the movie does very well in setting us up that the perpetrator is a man. I wouldn't even call rumi a villain, she's also a victim of the system of show business so i'm glad at the end she didn't die but instead got help at a facility.
The TH-camr BreadSword argues that there's a visual "tell" in every scene that is meant to be 'real' in this film. I'm unsure if it's real but it's an interesting analysis.
Oh man now you gotta watch paranoia agent if you haven't already
He said in the beginning that he thinks it's one of the best series in its area, so I think he's already seen it.
Well, this film was lots of fun. I thoroughly disliked the last line though, I wish she would have just looked at her reflection in the mirror and then cut before she'd say anything.
CHAM's song
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Im pretty sure the last lines are supposed to be something like "is that the famous actress?? --naaah youre lying it cant be her!" and mima then confirming her identiy and self by saying "no, its me, im real" and concluding her arc with it. I dont thinks its an supposed to be an ambigous "OR IS SHEE???" line, the subs are just kinda off on that one i guess?... (wrote this before i watched the entire discussion, if you catch on to that later on then ignore this lol)
On another note; I think you should maybe look a bit into DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder, formerly known as multiple personality disorder) and how badly its presented in most media, if you are interested ofc (I know youre a rather proggy boi so i dont think youre gonna believe/reinforce these stereotypes, but still it could be interesting to you). A lof of psych thrillers use DID as somewhat of a deus ex machina for the killer while being blatantly disrespectful and ableist in their portrayals. Similar case with transwomen in early thriller movies. This movie also has both stereotypes in them, although in my opinions perfect blue doesnt do it as bad as other movies.
And I dont think its an inherent bad thing to have done in the past, but I do think people should know the thruth of these portrayals and how badly it can impact the image of transfolks or people with DID. Fortunately these tropes arent as common nowadays, but they still exist here and there (prime example: one of jk rowlings newest books)
@@binkelderg7409 That's false information. It was still Mima's voice actress.
@Eggg My problem with the "It's not supposed to be ambiguous" line of thought is Mima's expression at the end, which resembles the imaginary Mima's creepy smiley expression throughout the movie way too much for it to be just her confirming her identity. If it was just that then Satoshi Kon should've chosen a more peaceful expression, rather than an expression that is associated with imaginary-Mima/Rumi's facial expression.
Yeah the line is much more like "I'm the real one." in response to the women saying it has to be an imposter.
@@attiamazen4614 i definitely see where youre coming from. But i've always interpreted it that way since the first time i watched the movie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
maybe im biased because of that lol who knows :)
@@attiamazen4614 Exactly!