To be honest, with all the cars you get and the aproach you have I personally would appreciate if you would comment on drive handling, comfort, technical aspects, noise isolation, maybe include headlight performance with keeping your main idea of real world consumption while experience person is drivong as a main aspect of these reviews. I say this because I tested some of the cars you did and I got consumption near yours while some of the other reviewers had different values meaning they don't represent the real ones. Also had experience of founding some cars comfortable although some reviews with a lot of subscribers with same configurations said that some of the are loud and what not...
If I'd do that I'm just one of hundreds of car-testers. And - frankly - all of them do it better than I'd do. I have one field of expertise when it comes to cars, that's eco-driving. This is what this channel is about.
Thanks for showing that diesels are not nowhere near as dead as they portray them to be. Why buy hybrid when you get the same or better fuel consumption from a diesel. Im not sure about other countries in EU, but where I live diesel is ~0.2-0.3€/L cheaper that gasoline (~1.85€/L for gasoline, ~1.60€/L for diesel).
Helmut, thanks for your video. The diesel is not available in the U.S. I believe its called the Ford Escape here. Diesel fuel in the U.S. is usually anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar more per gallon compared to regular gasoline (87 octane). I will stick with a fuel efficient Toyota Hybrids that run on 87 octane gasoline, as our 2020 Highlander Hybrid all wheel drive, and 2022 Rav 4 Prime, have been very fuel efficient. Probably as good as a diesel with both engines having a 14/1 compression ratio.
Heyday of Diesel is over here in Europe as well. They tend to get heavier and more complicated with all the exhaust-cleaning stuff. If you don't drive 40.000 kms/25.000 miles on a highway per year (hybrid-)gas cars are the better option.
great video again. but cant understand the big hybrid cars in genarel. i drive a diesel car (Megane grandtour) and the consumption is exactly the same 4.4. we just went on holiday about 350km from here drove around alot there and back home with 1800km on the meter. consumption 4.4 the hybrid cars are nice in the city but you dont realy need a car that size just to go shopping. thx for the upload numbers dont lie keep them comming ;)
This is just mild hybrid version + the main difference is diesel vs. petrol. For petrol cars, hybrid system improves fuel consumption greatly - like 7l/100 km drops to 4,5l. For diesels, it's not as effective as diesels are IMHO not that effective constantly turning themselves on and off again.
I own a Volvo XC90 T8 Plug-In Hybrid and over 20.000 kms I've used 4,3 l/100 kms so far (plus electric energy). In town I drive purely electric, whereas a diesel is the most unefficient in stop-and-go traffic.
@@ecodriver1746 Diesels in cities, especially on short runs are the worst. Mine 2 yo second car for a short run of 3-5km can barely reach working temperature. Totally wrong aproach by me to go for a diesel.
Found your channel late but really not ideal driving for any turbo engine. The uphill is quite obvious here where you were demanding power off boost. Also with the turbo diesel, prolonged running below turbo range leads to clogged turbos and costly repairs. I'm quite sure that the hill section would be much better at 2000rpm.
Hybrid version in warm countries is nowhere near as efficient as it doesn't kick in when the AC is on, so you're effectively carrying round heavy batteries for nothing.
According to this logic hybrids don't make any sense at all, as people claim (mostly correctly) they are not so efficient in the cold, when the engine needs to be running to heat the car. I tested the PHEV with empty battery in 31° Celsius and achieved 3,7 l/100 kms...
@@arinagriese251 It's a very simple statement, I have a Diesel Hybrid and when you have the AC on the electric start to get you pulling away from traffic lights or putting it in EV mode does not work as much or at all, therefore reducing its efficiency. So its not so efficient when hot in real world experience.
@@ecodriver1746 I'm referring to an Electric Hybrid like the KUGA in this test and that in hot weather using the AC impacts the operating of the electric pull away which is where the Elect part drives the fuel consumption down, if this doesn't work as well with AC on then you're effectively towing heavy batteries which is obviously worse for the consumption.
In my umpteen years of driving hybrids I never experienced something like that. Maybe there's something wrong with your car. Even in the hottest weather I achieve extremely low consumptions, even with my heavy XC90 (2,3 tons and only 87 kW electric motor). With empty battery and mid-20s, AC on I did 5,8 l/100 kms on this route. And as I said, the 3,7 with empty battery in the Kuga PHEV were done at 31degrees.
Excellent, just shows there's life in diesel yet, particularly on the highways, and where S/S tech can be used in town.
Yes, that's the only reason one would buy a diesel nowadays, if you do 20.000+ kms mostly on motorways
@@ecodriver1746 Precisely. That used to be me; now it's not, I'm a short run urban driver, and even on the open road hybrids are catching diesel up.
To be honest, with all the cars you get and the aproach you have I personally would appreciate if you would comment on drive handling, comfort, technical aspects, noise isolation, maybe include headlight performance with keeping your main idea of real world consumption while experience person is drivong as a main aspect of these reviews.
I say this because I tested some of the cars you did and I got consumption near yours while some of the other reviewers had different values meaning they don't represent the real ones. Also had experience of founding some cars comfortable although some reviews with a lot of subscribers with same configurations said that some of the are loud and what not...
If I'd do that I'm just one of hundreds of car-testers. And - frankly - all of them do it better than I'd do. I have one field of expertise when it comes to cars, that's eco-driving. This is what this channel is about.
Thanks for showing that diesels are not nowhere near as dead as they portray them to be. Why buy hybrid when you get the same or better fuel consumption from a diesel. Im not sure about other countries in EU, but where I live diesel is ~0.2-0.3€/L cheaper that gasoline (~1.85€/L for gasoline, ~1.60€/L for diesel).
Helmut, thanks for your video. The diesel is not available in the U.S. I believe its called the Ford Escape here. Diesel fuel in the U.S. is usually anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar more per gallon compared to regular gasoline (87 octane). I will stick with a fuel efficient Toyota Hybrids that run on 87 octane gasoline, as our 2020 Highlander Hybrid all wheel drive, and 2022 Rav 4 Prime, have been very fuel efficient. Probably as good as a diesel with both engines having a 14/1 compression ratio.
Heyday of Diesel is over here in Europe as well. They tend to get heavier and more complicated with all the exhaust-cleaning stuff. If you don't drive 40.000 kms/25.000 miles on a highway per year (hybrid-)gas cars are the better option.
I think you may have accidentally switched the figures for mpg in the city and the overall in the summary.
Oops, yes I did, sorry. Thanks.
great video again.
but cant understand the big hybrid cars in genarel.
i drive a diesel car (Megane grandtour) and the consumption is exactly the same 4.4.
we just went on holiday about 350km from here drove around alot there and back home with 1800km on the meter. consumption 4.4
the hybrid cars are nice in the city but you dont realy need a car that size just to go shopping.
thx for the upload numbers dont lie
keep them comming ;)
This is just mild hybrid version + the main difference is diesel vs. petrol.
For petrol cars, hybrid system improves fuel consumption greatly - like 7l/100 km drops to 4,5l. For diesels, it's not as effective as diesels are IMHO not that effective constantly turning themselves on and off again.
I own a Volvo XC90 T8 Plug-In Hybrid and over 20.000 kms I've used 4,3 l/100 kms so far (plus electric energy). In town I drive purely electric, whereas a diesel is the most unefficient in stop-and-go traffic.
@@ecodriver1746 Diesels in cities, especially on short runs are the worst. Mine 2 yo second car for a short run of 3-5km can barely reach working temperature. Totally wrong aproach by me to go for a diesel.
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Thx
Found your channel late but really not ideal driving for any turbo engine. The uphill is quite obvious here where you were demanding power off boost. Also with the turbo diesel, prolonged running below turbo range leads to clogged turbos and costly repairs. I'm quite sure that the hill section would be much better at 2000rpm.
Hybrid version in warm countries is nowhere near as efficient as it doesn't kick in when the AC is on, so you're effectively carrying round heavy batteries for nothing.
According to this logic hybrids don't make any sense at all, as people claim (mostly correctly) they are not so efficient in the cold, when the engine needs to be running to heat the car. I tested the PHEV with empty battery in 31° Celsius and achieved 3,7 l/100 kms...
@Awesome TD LOL, never heard such a stupid argument. What exactly doesn't "kick in" in hot weather?
@@arinagriese251 It's a very simple statement, I have a Diesel Hybrid and when you have the AC on the electric start to get you pulling away from traffic lights or putting it in EV mode does not work as much or at all, therefore reducing its efficiency. So its not so efficient when hot in real world experience.
@@ecodriver1746 I'm referring to an Electric Hybrid like the KUGA in this test and that in hot weather using the AC impacts the operating of the electric pull away which is where the Elect part drives the fuel consumption down, if this doesn't work as well with AC on then you're effectively towing heavy batteries which is obviously worse for the consumption.
In my umpteen years of driving hybrids I never experienced something like that. Maybe there's something wrong with your car. Even in the hottest weather I achieve extremely low consumptions, even with my heavy XC90 (2,3 tons and only 87 kW electric motor). With empty battery and mid-20s, AC on I did 5,8 l/100 kms on this route. And as I said, the 3,7 with empty battery in the Kuga PHEV were done at 31degrees.