Toyota Really Screwed Up…$72k Why?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- Toyota and a lot of other manufacturers prices have been increasing so much within the last few years and at this Toyota dealership they don’t even have affordable vehicles that most people want they only have the very expensive Toyota vehicles and this video we’re gonna walk around a Toyota dealership and talk about what’s going on in the market. None of this is financial advice. Just my opinion.
Greed. I’m a huge Toyota fan, but fuck em.
Eff em is right. I just bought a Nissan Titan.
@YardsAfterContact.....NO Chinese truck....that's opening a worse door for this country
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Yep, well said 😂
Have a Taco now next will be a Frontier
Japanese forgot we use dollars not yens. Numbers should be lower. How the fuck an average working middle class can afford this.
If we want cheap cars then open the market to Chinese vehicles
Toyota is manufactured in North America. It's in dollars!
Don’t blame the Japanese for our inflation and besides if it was in yen it’s AFFORDABLE 72k yen is equal to $720 usd 😂
Tacoma is built in 2 mexico plants for several years now.@The_Blessed_Cowboy
If dealerships saw that they can get suckers to pay $50K for a $30K truck, why would they go back?
Exactly. They still trying to ride that Covid train.
People keep complaining about the economy it’s really just the dealerships. I’ve always thought dealerships were pointless why not just sell directly to the consumers?
If people would stop paying these ridiculous prices for cars and trucks at dealerships and buy direct from sellers, or keep and repair what they have already as needed, dealerships would evaporate. Its the peoples fault for throwing money away they barely have.
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@@mikemccormick8115youre forgetting the worst part. Atleast if the dealer sells you a bad car you have someone to complain too. If you buy a bad car off a individual. Good luck getting in touch with that guy.
If that happens the OEM isn't obligated to lower prices. They will still charge outrageous prices and you won't have any way to negotiate the price down
Exactly right! If the dealerships could sell vehicles at the pre Covid prices they would. If they drop the prices everyone that already has an overpriced vehicle will lose so much value very quickly!
Toyota doesn't overprice their trucks overseas only in the US do they crank up their msrp's. They know most Americans will pay any amount for materialistic items so they take full advantage of how dumb we are in this country.
Anyone who buys an $80k Toyota truck deserves the poverty they put themselves in.
Yup. If you are dumb enough to buy this pile of crap, you can afford to eat a 60% loss on resale value.
$64k for a '24 offroad Tacoma. Smoking crack.
Feyntenel laced crack
Hmmm, wonder where all those savings from Mexican labor are going?
BIG mystery.
Made in Mexico and overpriced.. Why i now drive 2024 Pro X Nissan Frontier
A buddy at work did the same thing!
Frontier is ugly though. I would get the Chevrolet Colorado or GMC Canyon. They are fantastic and great looking. But not cheap of course!
If looks and a weak 4 banger are what you like buy one.
@@abruegger007Literally your opinion, not a fact. I like the way the Frontier looks.
Aren’t they made in Dallas?
The new tacoma is definitely overpriced... not even a V6 engine.
The 4 is impressive, it's great actually and MPGs are good too.
@@AS-gf5jn Wait until the turbo dies after 150,000 miles...
@@drgta6that long? The tundras failed at 20k 😂
@@Drewcardello What drugs are you tripping on? Pass it along...
@@drgta6agreed. They might make it to 150K miles….thats a big fat maybe. I’d say the turbo engines will fail closure to 100K miles because they are failing across the board on the Tundra.
hello Nissan goodbye toyota WTF
72k reasons for the truck to sit on the lot......I'm not buying this crap.....NOT AT ALL
I don't understand why trucks gained so much popularity.
Here in AZ, 9 out 10 truck owners never haul anything.
Status symbols
Az here
I saw 90% of the traffic at a signal was trucks- not on thing in the beds-
8 am Prescott Friday morning-
2500 and 3500’s taking kids to school- or the guy at HD getting 3 2x4’s for the roofers.
The guys at work all told me about MAJOR motor or transmission problems before the warranty went out-
2019-2022 models
Ford Chevy Ram.
They don't want to drive a cramped up rice burner
I am pretty sure it is the way they are treated and driven that gave them issues, or maybe they got lemons..simple. you can tell me anything but that is the truth.
@brianmaloney5430 They don't care about pollution. Just burn all the natural resources and leave nothing for future generations.
Allegedly Toyota deliberately increased prices because stealer ships were marking up vehicles and Toyota wanted a cut of that. The problem is the stealer ships looking to add on top of that as well
I do agree its definitely an issue and this is coming from a car salesman markups are not necessary to be a successful dealership. If anything it’ll hurt you in the long run as a dealership.
Tempur-pedic and apple these are companies that have strict mandates on pricing with their sellers
car companies can do this as well
if a mattress company discounts or raises, a Tempur-pedic price without Tempur-pedic approval Tempur-pedic will stop selling to them completely
@@WheelsandWalletsjust call Toyota and wait. Base model Tundra 4x4 takes four months. $45k.
@@WheelsandWalletswell state laws protect dealers. Toyota doesn’t want to get sued by dealerships.
@WheelsandWallets apple and tempurpedic are allowed to sell direct to consumer. Car dealerships don't have to worry about that happening, at least for the foreseeable future.
Then Toyota should stop selling truck to these stealerships
If it was 72k it should at least have a V8 connected to a 5-speed auto or manual transmission.
5 speed? Welcome to 2024...
Simply not worth 72k. Layoffs at Auto plants are coming. Do they actually believe many can afford to buy this pick up. Check back in a few years an tell me the price of this same pick up.
Abolish dealerships and sell direct. I’ve never been to a Toyata dealership but I’m only 74 years old. Bought a Q60s Infiniti from CarMax for $41000 with 22000 miles instead of $70000 for a new one. Had it 16 months and zero problems. I don’t even consider a dealership for anything but free test drives or only something only they can do. Went to Infiniti dealership once to upgrade to wireless Apple Car Play and they send letters all the time like I’m a customer or something even crazy shit like extended warranties. Hopefully I’ll never have to step foot on the dealership again.
I'm a toyota fan, but I've bought the 24 Camry XSE v6 and 24 4Runner TRD Pro v6....I am not buying any of these re-designs. They will be here for me for the rest of my life.
Agreed. Toyota is a fat greedy little pig and they can buy back their crappy Tundra’s and Tacoma’s. Plus, the Toyota Dealers are the rudest MFers on the planet.
Same here.
I just picked up a 24 limited 4Runner.
The industry is changing and they don’t want you having a car that will last.
Im with y’all, I bought a 23 Toyota Camry xse V6 a year ago and a 24 4Runner Pro recently 👍
I like midsize Toyota pickups....Just not $72,000+ worth. Not a chance in hell......
I'm not the 1 percent. Nissan here I come.
100% on the same page 2025 frontier pretty tempting
Stronger truck anyway, and not made in Mex.
Get ready to need a new tranny soon. Nissan is junk from my experience.
@YardsAfterContact......Nissan follows this model,they need to go down.....lower prices = SELL MORE
Me too
Shopping Nissan for a month now
A friend likes his 50k 2024 Toyota Tacoma a lot, I mentioned saving 15k and buy a Nissan Frontier but he is loyal to Toyota. I have 2 Nissan 2019 Frontiers and they do everything a Much over priced Tacoma will do. It's a easy decision to make.
I would never get a Nissan because they are Ugly!
Just plain greed…
That's mostly your fault. In most other countries, trucks are sold as real work trucks. So Toyota's Hilux Champ in developing countries is sold around US$15,000-20,000 for farmers and delivery folks. But in North America, a pick-up truck has become a luxury vehicle to flaunt wealth, so high-end customers require multiple options, nice interior, and latest infotech, etc. And the EPA regulations it near impossible to sell cheap trucks. The chicken tax makes it impossible to manufacture these vehicles in Japan, especially as there is limited market for full-size pick-up trucks in Japan.
You can get a Nissan Titan V8 platinum Reserve $54k who n the heck wants a V6 tundra lol 70k 😅
No you can’t
They don’t have any Corollas or Rav 4’s because they sold them all. Their trucks have turned into crap
Very true they just need to make more because obviously people want them
@@joeyzasa7383 thanks, captain obvious
The sad part is I don't want it if it's free. I'll keep my 2018 thank you.
I couldn’t agree more. I just don’t want or would spend my hard earned cash on any new Toyota trucks or cars. Toyota is insane for even thinking the market can afford these poorly built vehicles. Send them back to Mexico and try again.
Overpriced dealerships are a primary reason consumers are considering purchasing new Chinese electric vehicles priced between $10,000 and $30,000. 💸🚗 #ElectricVehicles #AffordableOptions
Wow the price on that Tacoma is the price for a F150 or Silverado LT with 4x4. . Same price a lot less truck. They can keep it.
2024 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X is the only real truck with a pair of balls left in the modern era. Bought new Tacoma SR5 4X4 in 1999…..kept that truck for almost 22 years. Ended up with a Subaru Forester Wilderness that is made in Japan instead of Mexico. Toyota is not what it was in the 80’s and 90’s. What a shame.
A sea of black and gray on that lot. Not much interest in any color!
As a consumer I feel more abused everyday. Trucks, food, utilities, gas, lumber, everything is more expensive and smaller. We are getting ripped off from every direction. I lived through this crap back in the late seventies and early eighties and never thought it would happen again but here we are!
I walk out of any dealership that has add-ons or markups. If everyone did this then there would be none.
I really hope the japanese wake up to the fact that they can't trust americans to design their trucks AND business model. Everything that was beautiful about their cars is dead. Now toyotas aren't simple cheap and reliable, they're the exact opposite.
Some Toyotas are both designed and made in America.
The only one that maybe is..and unfortunately makes you pay for it in terms of def and dpf is the 70 series.
Toyota fanboi here. Normally I'd get a Tacoma if buying new. I prefer the Frontier now.
and you have to pay $10 a month for remote start
Inflation is at 2.7%. This is not inflation, it's greed. Grocery store same thing.
I'll be getting a Nissan.
Nice trucks…. Maybe if the engine is solid. Out of my price range however
They were really nice and reliable before the redesign
The new design is weird to me because of that wind visor on the bottom of the front bumper and it just looks cheap to me. Add the Turbo Engine and the bad transmissions and the average MSRP over 50K????? Toyota needs to go suck an egg whole and choke on it. Bye bye Toyota
The Tacoma’s are not nice, they feel incredibly cheap on the interior and the exterior has some fit and finish issues. The transmissions are garbage. It’s an epic fail for Toyota.
@@Slammingutz I agree with you
I just can’t believe they are selling these at 50-70k. If I bought one I’d special order cheapest king cab with 4wd and manual transmission. SR, not even SR5. It shows it’s only 38,000 on website.
If we are talking about Out The Door price, we are talking about $60k-$80k…..for a Toyota vehicle…….
Price gauging!…just terrible what’s going on and quality has suffered too.Too much electronics built in these vehicles,they’re literally making making it where you have to take it into a dealer then you gotta deal with these clowns who wants to rip you off.
Just ordered 2025 maverick and hybrid xlt heated seats and steering wheels.
Fully loaded moon roof. 37k out the door
Ah it's a ford. If it last me 10 years...I'm good.
No doubt, Toyota has lost my business. No way will I pay these stupid msrp's
2008 tacoma 4x4 SR5
MSRP 23,000
Purchased for 21,000
Wish I Had never got rid of it
let it Sit there....
The corollas are being sold before they even hit the dealership. I purchased mine as soon as it was out of the japanese manufacture plant.
They don't tell you that turbo needs more Maintenance😊
I'll just continue to drive what I have. I was going to buy a Toyota, but they didn't have hybrids, and said the only way to test drive would be to put a down payment on whichever hybrid I want, which I didn't know which one I wanted. Not me. Walked away so happy to have what I have.
OEM's passing on the repair costs etc for these new turbo engines and EV's to the consumer. Keep the v8
Nissan made the big mistake first, now Toyota is shooting in his feet. The nerds behind a computer made a stupid decision...disconected from the customers.
Nissan Frontier way better buy. 0% apr & cash back plus has a N/A V6.
The rav4 have a long waitlist that as soon as it hit the lot, it's sold to the next person in line.
Still driving my 1st gen Taco. V6, 4x4. Only has 185k miles on it. Never selling it. Folks who can’t really afford, but still buy these vehicles are downright dumb. No sympathy
Haha. Mexico Made Junk!!!! Drove by Dealer in Scottsdale. 60 Tacoma's. 40 Tundra's.
Ugly front. 4 banger with Flurbo... #done
been looking for a good used 202 to 2008 4 wheel drive tundra. prices are absolutely ridiculous. average is around 16 to 17k with the beaters still at 10k. i am a retired person but need to tow my tractor from time to time and my 6cyl tundra wont cut it. its a 1999 sold in 2000. not even 4wd.
I really wanted a Tacoma when I was shopping earlier this year. Once I saw those prices, I was out. Bought a 24 Canyon AT4... no regrets at all.
Market determines everything. When it becomes unaffordable anymore, price will go down.
Looks just like my local Toyota dealer. All overpriced trucks, no Camry's or Rav 4 which I am interested in.
And nobody wants a Tundra with a turbo V-6 engine. It's ridiculous!
Love my '23 TRD 4x4 Lunar Rock scooped up for $43k, can make it a PRO down the line
No way those trucks should be priced that high! The Tacoma should be tops around 35k..
They put too much stock in a belief that people would jump on the untested turbo engine, after the Tundra's problems. The days are gone that Tacomas fly off the lot.
Meanwhile, TH-cam channels are showing that you can't take the new Tacoma in snow or off road, and you can't downshift the manual.
High profit and High margins are the reason ford stopped selling cars altogether.
Somethings going on that we don't know it kind of looks like they're making the cars so expensive so we can't afford them. I think they're trying to get us all into electric cars.
Great video, thanks for pointing this stuff out publicly.
I traded my uncomfortable Tacoma for a freaking Nissan Sentra lol. I'm 6'5" 275lbs and I fit in the Sentra better and it's seat is freaking great. Never get less than 40mpg compared to the Tacomas 19mpg. Well equipped SV with remote start, heated seats and wheel, dual zone climate control, 8 inch touch screen and android auto apple carplay cost $10k less than my used 2019 Tacoma was 3 years ago. Idgaf if they run forever it's not worth the compromises you make to live with one. A new corolla with a shitty 1990's rear suspension cost thousands more than a loaded Sentra for a base model! Forget Civics, they're even worse. Ffs why do I need to spend $30k for a weeny car just to run to work? I don't, I'd rather take my chances with a Nissan cvt (fight the stealership on the extended warranty cost, it's how they make money since the cars are so heavily discounted).
this is happening to all dealers and manufacturers not just Toyota
And the funny thing is, this Tacoma will not hold a candle to the 1st, and especially the long-running 2nd gens (2005-2015), as they're already having, you guessed it, 'reliability' and 'quality' 'issues'. Too bad Toyota hasn't been the same company after the 2016 redesign of the 3rd gen Tacoma (2016-2023), and even the 2009-built 4Runner is having issues after the 2021 model years, and this is coming from Japan.
Turbos are trash and don't last, they ruined the Camry by forcing you to buy one with a battery. I do not want a battery there is no savings in my situation.
This is not a Toyota thing. It’s an all car maker issue
They sell out of everything else they build. People realized they can get a good Toyota car to haul people and rent a truck when you need a bed to haul stuff
No one wants that. Buy Nissan
So what happens in 5-7 yrs?? Since these went up by 10k-15k. In 5yrs are they going to be selling the them at 80k-90k starting? Tf. Cars can only go up so much until people can’t buy anymore.
Absolutely ridiculous price for a Toyota.
On the plus side, you’ll get at least two engines for each Tundra you buy.
I bought my 2015 Tacoma TRD V6 4.0L 4X4 Automatic long bed 6 FT loaded with navigation and JBL sound systems running boards for 34,000 OTD that’s all fees included taxes and DMV 🤯
Only good Toyota products left are V8 models like the LC500 which is actually worth the $105K it costs and the IS500 which is a very fast car for the $65K it costs. The Camry is reasonably priced but they killed the V6 and added a high pressure turbo to extract power from the engine by keeping it under high stress. Don’t buy these domestic made V6 trucks for Japan made V8 supercharged 600hp prices.
Like college, insurance, real estate, etc., it's the financialization of everything and the affordability of monthly payments. Sticker prices rise until they can't.
Rav4 used to be like 22k and 25k for the best package now they all be 33k-45k lol
Truly, manufacturers need to provide more affordable options. Very few people can afford these new prices.
Tundra top price $42000.00 and that is Loaded
here in Phoenix, I kid you not... the new 2024 TRD PRO tacomas are 71,000 and 74,000. WTF!!!!
Toyota starting to feel like I need to go to Range Rover for the better reliability
Quality can only go up when they’re not made by lazy UAW workers.
Watched a video yesterday they was showing a chevy truck it was over $100,000 and was on the lot not selling for over a year
Don't worry a Toyota fan boy will buy it 😂 and then defend why it costs that much.
They seem to be losing the fanboys this year.
High pricing for no reliability in the new engines and transmissions. What happened Toyota?
Clearly corolla and rav4 is not what people want... everyone wants a truck or suv. You are a bit out of touch there tbh, but yes.. 70k is outrageous. Look at marketplace used car listing. Old used best up trucks still selling for 15-20k meanwhile sedans are dirt cheap, no one wants it.
Wrong. People want corolla and rav4. They literally get sold the day they hit the lot
V6 failures = Tundra oversupply
High cost is affecting every mfg, not just Toyota.
You really do have to take into account, the state of the economy and not just in the states and let's not forget what COVID shutdowns did to supply and yes, even several years out that is still affecting most industries. Have you tried to get a popular model large appliance lately?
High cost and low or no supply is now the new normal. Get use to it, because I don't foresee a positive change in the near future even if Trump is elected President in Nov.
Yea but it has a Texas sticker in the back window…. That definitely should pull them in.
Toyota has a new owner. It's called American. Not made in Japan anymore
Sad my Tacoma was $42k in 22 and now one with a similar trim is $56k
One of the best decisions ever made was buying a 2021 tundra double cab TRD pro in January 2021.
I paid $48,880 for it and with tag and tax I drove it home for $51,052.
How anyone can justify spending an additional $20,000 for a truck in just three years is crazy to me.
Hopefully this truck lasts forever.
When my 06 Ridgeline dies someday, I’ll be looking at a titan or a frontier Pro 4x. I will not overpay for a Toyota that is made in mehico.
As long as dumb people keep asking, "how much is the monthly payment?" These dealers and manufacturers will keep marking them up.
Price of Tacoma TRD Pro here in Guam starts at $75,000!! TRD OR starts at $60,000 !😢
Rav4 is Toyota's bread and butter.
Great mom cars.
They need to produce more because they’re so popular. I don’t know why they don’t.
@@Commentleaver-c6x And men and people who are not moms or fathers.
@@justahumbledude yes, but mostly driven by moms.
@@Commentleaver-c6x and not just Rav4's but all crossovers. there's something about small crossovers that women really like.
People keep paying so they will continue to raise the price
Sad how ugly these new Toyota trucks are . Stickin with my 14 Trd off road access cab 4.0 V6 4x4 . Its paid off and only has 99k on it .
Change the fluids every 50k and full synthetic oil changes every 5k. Keepin it goin as long as I can .
Thats a smooth running engine. These turbo engines and all the other complex stuff in these new vehicles is planned obsolescence on steroids 😂
No ,thank you.
No overpriced, we are smart buyers.
When dealer are greedy and want more for cheap plastic. Can't wait to trade my 2024 Tacoma for the new also plastic Frontier.