I hated this cars looks when it came out, but it is growing on me, a little . But maybe not enough to buy one. Even the salesman I talked too hated it's exterior looks. The EX would be a decent value, but a 7" screen????? Come on Honda, my 2008 Accord has a bigger screen....Seriously!
It's rather the price, here in Europe it comes mainly with the 2 liters, 329h.p. engine, for the absurd price of 60.000 euros... Who buys a sports car looking like a family car (but with a small trunk) and pays that much???
Correct!...it's not a production issue, it's a bank account issue, people don't have any money in them! This issue should work itself out after January 2025...
Did you not listen to the beginning of the video. He stated that the first year of the redesign sold well. It’s the 2024 model that sales have slowed….
That's what happens when you make a huge sedan with Zero style. It looks like during the exterior design phase they made a base shape of what a sedan is (four doors, four wheels) and called it a day. No styling whatsoever.
Compared to others in this class: No AWD, No 360 Camera, No Projector headlights, No Ambient lighting. Priced much higher than competitors that offer all of the above
It is the looks that are putting people off. Everything on this car are just straight lines. Headlights, taillights, grille outlines, grille details, bumpers, hood creases, and body creases are all just straight lines, and this is exacerbated on a large car like this. The front and rear overhang seems too long also. I have no doubt it is a great driving, reliable, and comfortable car (I used to own a 2013 Sport). The car doesnt just look generic, it doesn't look right. Cars are an emotional purchase, and looks is a big factor, especially when people are spending over $30k on a car.
this new accord doesn't drive too well. feels like it floats like a boat. it might create a sense of "comfortable" but honestly the pre-refresh Accord (both hybrid and 2.0 turbo) have better feelings
Actually, I don't like the seats in this car at all. I do like the styling (a lot of comments here say they don't) and it is probably reliable and very fuel efficient but having to deal with the arrogant salesmen and dealerships is a giant PITA. No more Hondas or Toyotas for me.
Couldn't agree more. It's overpriced and Honda does unnecessary gatekeeping. To unlock some of the same features you would get in a Civic Touring for like 30k, you have to go all the way up to the Touring Hybrid on the Accord. Unless you absolutely need that extra space in a sedan I can't fathom how it's worth the money.
@@kingdarius5252 Its not overpriced. Cars are getting more expensive and its natural for the Accord to increase in price. However the looks is an absolute downgrade from last gen.
not really. its nice as hell actually. the problem is a lot of buyers probably dont want hybrids. 80 percent of them on dealer lots are expensive hybrid versions
@@cantwealljustgetalong2it has virtually nothing to do with being a hybrid. Hybrids are everywhere and the majority of people actually prefer them. The accord isn’t selling because of exactly what the OP originally stated… this thing is U.G.L.Y!!!!!!!! It looks like a 2012 Ford Taurus and it SEVERELY lacks features found in most other classes while demanding at or over $40,000.00 for the top trim. They use reflector-beam led headlights (cost cutting… and may I mention, not even auto-leveling), they only offer a single-pane sun roof, no power folding mirrors, only the driver and front passenger doors have smart access feature, while they do have a “fully” digital gauge cluster it’s tiny in size to others and has a massive plastic border around it that doesn’t even fill out the entire cluster-area (again, cost cutting), no awd option, no spare tire (cost cutting..again), no homelink garage buttons unless you pay $500 extra for it, no heated steering wheel (cost cutting, especially for this class), no 360 degree camera, only TWO TRIMS (ex-l and touring) offer rear air vents, and the list continues. Honda for as long as they’ve been around have been reserving these so-called “luxury” features for their Acura division without realizing that Acura does not sell well!!!! They’ve been declining in sales for such a long time and have always been behind Lexus’ shadow. If Honda just took the features they hoard with Acura and used them in their own cars while simultaneously turned Acura into a true German-rival brand, then they could actually move forward like the rest of the automakers. Ffs, I’d rather have a Kia at this point and that’s speaking volumes coming from someone who is a Japanese brand diehard. It’s pathetic!!!
There not selling because drivers don’t like crappy sedans. Nothing like looking at the underside of proper cars that sit at a more natural height. It’s pretty sad when a 6 year old kid stands taller than your car.
I must be weird; I've always thought the new Accord looks great: classy, timeless, and handsome. But I've heard almost entirely negative comments on it looks online.
I agree, it's beautiful, classy looking overall, much like a top of the line Audi. I own a 2015 Accord Touring V6 that I like so much that I cannot let it go but if I were ready to trade the new Accord would be it
I like it. I also buy an Accord because of its reputation of being at least a 200k miles car. If I want looks, I would go Hyundai if I don't care about the long term.
@MrA-ir3me it had poor sales because honda didnt send any to dealerships. they were very very hard to find and if you wanted the dealership to order one they would give you a hard time because they wanted to sell what they had in stock
I mean Toyota got rid of the V6 in the Camry and the Camry is still selling like hotcakes. Power really isn’t an issue when not many people bought the V6 or turbo-4 when it was around in this car, and its rival is still selling well without a V6 too.
EX-L hybrid owner. Over 1 year 50 MPG, roomy, zero reliability issues, best Honda I’ve owned since the 5th gen bomb proof Accord. Yeah looks are what you make of it, for me it doesn’t have a Ram truck grill and handles any road.
I had a 2023 Accord EX 1.5t that I just traded in on a 2024 CRV Hybrid Sport last week. I thought it was a nice car for 26k when we purchased it used last year. Only problem is that my wife kept hitting her head on the door sill getting in and out of the vehicle. the crv hybrid is getting around 40 mpg around our area right now and the accord was only getting 34-36 mpg in mixed driving. We needed something a little bigger and my wife is used to SUV's. I will say we got 41.9 mpg on a trip which was mostly highway driving between 55-65 mph in the accord.
I own a hybrid sport. It’s the perfect commuter car and everyday family sedan. The extra space and roomier size of the car is worth the extra price than the civic hybrid imo. Only negative I have to say about the car is the seats aren’t that comfortable. Smooth and handles well. Good fuel economy.
Just a couple of real life anecdotes: 1) My neighbor had a 2.0T 10AT, but didn't like the gas mileage and replaced it with a CR-V Hybrid. He now complains about lack of power, but well, we can't have everything. 2) I don't like large cars, so I own a Fit and a Civic, both manual transmission.
@@1997inspire I think the CR-V looks OK in the sport trims. The Accord would only benefit from a more aggressive grille like the CR-V, but even with that I'm not sure I could get past the overly elongated hood and overall size.
I don't see it as a bad car objectively, it's just that 1) it's not a crossover, and 2) other models in its class have AWD available and this does not. How much you willing to bet the 0 Series becomes the next Accord with a hatch? Also, if it's like the CR-V Sport Touring, the top trim Accord Hybrid should be able to anticipate hills on the route entered into the navigation system and adjust its powertrain accordingly so.it.can maximize EV mode and regen on the downhills.
I do wonder what the take rate is for an AWD Camry/Prius. Perhaps Honda thinks customers would just go for a CR-V instead of paying an extra $1500 for an awd Accord? I wish I could have tested the hills more. I went over a mountain pass and noticed the battery was full not long after descending. Perhaps an unmapped road? but a slight bummer for energy recapture.
All sedans are seeing sales nosedive. The Civic is an exception a) because it's a compact car (the sedan market has shrunk from the top down starting with the "full-size" sedans like the Avalon and Maxima, now the mid-size cars) and b) because it's the best in its class by a massive margin and arguably the best Civic ever. The Accord also got rid of nearly every single sporty feature: 2.0T, manual, aggressive styling. Still surprised to hear of the poor sales though because I see a ton of them on the road. I also like the clean, contemporary styling. Everyone said the new Civic looked boring too until they saw it in person.
One of the biggest things that build a case for the Civic is the availability of a hatchback version that rivals in practicality to the HRV. Prius, Corolla hatch, and Mazda3 are not designed with practicality in mind because Toyota and Mazda are betting on subcompact CUVs instead of compact hatchbacks.
Every Honda dealer I’ve visited here in the southeast all have plenty of Honda accords. I don’t think it has anything to do with manufacturing the car, it’s just the design route the company took along with poor options compared to the competition.
Oh add to that the absence of the powerful 2.0T engine makes it a no go no purchase for the driving enthusiasts that want that extra oomph. The hybrid 2.0 is just too slow and Whimpy!!😢
At first I wanted the accord. But I just did not like the design and I felt like it was over priced, it had similar prices to CRV. I went for 24 civic touring, I got a better discount.
The ugly look accounts for its low sales. Look at the new Toyota Camry beautiful look. The Accord handling is good far better than the Camry and equally reliable too. Honda should work more on their design language
I have been drinking Accords for almost 30 years now, and the problem with the latest model is 100% the look. It’s terrible! The Chinese version looks great!
The only advantage over the Civic, especially now that Honda released an Hybrid Civic, is that you have air vents for the back seats and memory seats (I hope anyway on some of the Accord upper trims). But otherwise, the Civic is snappier, nimbler and you can get a hatch if you’re into this type of body shape. Yes, the Civic is not as roomy per se, but it’s not a huge difference either. If Honda had put memory seats in the Sport Touring Civic, I would still own mine. Two years of driving joy. First world problem I reckon, but when you are frequently switching between cars with your significant other, it’s a nice gimmick.
I had one as a rental for a week and was impressed. Super quiet, comfortable, and in the hybrid Sport I got incredible fuel economy. I didn’t find the look offputting, just, well, boring.
@@mrdave777 Perfect amount of power for a daily. Has plenty of passing power on the freeway but can still get good gas mileage if you're easy on the pedal.
The design bro! the design! people are clear about it, it’s Ugly the previous Gen looks newer Nowadays car companies just throwing trash in customer’s face like they don’t care 🤷🏽♂️
A big thing is that there’s no real reason to buy the accord over the civic. The civic is so large and so good that why buy an accord when the civic is cheaper and looks way better. It’s a good car just not worth it.
@@paulcarlin5181 it does, but it still has great leg room, they packaged the civic extremely well so it’s not a huge difference and to everyone expect super tall families shouldn’t care
I think people were very disappointed that the 2.0t option was dropped, but also, the previous gen was more distinctive in appearance. The new front end is extremely generic looking and if anything looks similar to the last Taurus that was sold in the US, which is very unfortunate. They basically went from a near sports sedan with some legit performance cred to a Häagen-Dazs vanilla-as-can-be sedan that no one really notices in traffic. Even though it may be a very good car, it just doesn’t stand out. And the performance of the 2.0T can't be matched by the hybrid in its current form. between those two major factors, I think interest has just dwindled with the new generation. You can say it’s just a decreased interest in sedan in general, which has some truth, but Camry and Corolla are still selling in comparatively big numbers.
as a lifelong honda fanboy, there is no compelling reason to choose the accord over the civic, especially now that the civic hybrid exists. by taking away the manual, 2.0t, etc the accord just "blends in". even the sonata comes with a 2.5t still, and the camry, while losing its v6, gets hybrid+optional awd on all trims. even the altima kept its 2.0 turbo, and still offers optional awd on the 1.6. what stanout feature does the accord have that the civic doesn't?
And the new Camry looks wayyy better. The 2.0 (especially with the manual) used to make the Accord a great sleeper car. Now there doesn’t seem to be a clear part of the market they are going after
I agree with all that you have said and it seems that Honda is just relying on the fact that the Accord has been the best car in it's class for generations. I don't hate the new Accord but it wouldn't be in my garage.
I got the civic sport 2024 and i want to trade it for an accord, civic seats are súper uncomfortable, and the accord cluster is way better. Also i had to went to service 2 times already with the civic and i just got it since april
@@ottawasbestcoffee6511new camry interior its super trash and cheap, i saw a lot of videos that people can just remove parts of the car pulling it off a little bit, the leather is cheap and wont last longer, the screen feels bad assembled, etc
I’m a huge Honda/Acura fan. Got my first Honda in 1985 when I was 17. Have owned nothing but Hondas or Acuras since. Have always chosen their higher performing engine options, (V6, 2.0T). This new Accord is the most disappointing Accord in my life and has me probably leaving the Honda family after 39 years of loyalty. I currently have a ‘21 Accord Touring 2.0T which I love. I appreciate the new Accord for what it is but it has abandoned its commitment to higher performance, which abandons me in the process. The TLX offers the 2.0T but that car is so heavy, that even with the extra 20hp it offers, it’s slower than my Accord. The Type S version is way more expensive and gets horrendous mileage, not to mention that the TLX is considerably less roomy than my car. So, where does that leave me as a lifelong Honda customer? All I want is a decent looking sedan, that is fairly roomy and offers at least as much performance as my current Accord, if not more, for less than $45k. There’s not much being offered now that meets my criteria. Fortunately, I’m not in the market for a newer car right now. I’m still very content with what I have. But I always like to know what to aim for when thinking about my next car. This is the first time in my life, when I’ve been lost in that regard. I’m exceedingly disappointed by Honda’s decision to forsake performance for fuel economy. I don’t mind that they prioritize fuel economy. I just wish that they also offered more power to those of us who prefer it.
I’ve got a Platinum White Pearl 2.0T touring and it’s truly a treat to own & drive. The 11th gen doesn’t hit me the way the 10th gen did when it dropped. I still stare at them on the road, even when I’m in my own.
I previously owned a 2012 Honda Accord 250,000 miles at time of trade in.I wanted to be loyal and buy another Honda Accord but the design looks horrible and there’s no spare tire.So I bought a beautiful 2025 Toyota Camry with a spare tire and free maintenance for the first 24 months of ownership of this vehicle.
The outgoing model looked a lot better. I hope the next gen returns to that style and improves on it even more. There are a lot of artists renditions out there that pull cues from the prior model and make it look amazing.
People keep bringing up looks as if the Accord has ever been a looker. The Accord isn’t selling well simply because it’s no longer a value leader. It’s expensive and the CRV is now a better value. Also the Civic is all grown up, cheaper and replaces the Accord’s old roots quite well.
Thank you! First off, the sedan market is a sinking ship... And with the Civic being so good, cheaper, same interior, no more 2.0 t in the Accord, and the Civic wearing a slightly more attractive exterior design--it's helping to kill off the Accord.
@@BarryWeaver-pv6cz I totally get it, however a majority of Americans no longer see sedans as practical vehicles. When comparing prices they see the equivalent CRV or cheaper Civic as better buys.
I have a 24 Accord touring and I love it. I had the 21 Accord and I enjoyed that one too, but this one is so much better. I wasn’t feeling the looks of the car at first, but when I started seeing it on the street, my view of it changed. Funny enough that was the same thing with me with the 10th generation Accord and before I knew it I had that one too. As the months go by, I’m seeing more and more of the current Accord on the road. I guess it depends on where you live, but they’re starting to make their presence known & that’s a good thing because it’s a great car.
I say blame pickup trucks and SUV's/CUV's. Too many people want big cars now which has taken a lot of the spotlight away from smaller vehicles. Just look at how Honda took away the Fit.
This thing is actually comparable to the late Avalon size-wise. Accord EX-L vs Avalon XLE Leg: 42.3 / 40.8 vs 42.1 / 40.4 Head: 37.5 / 37.2 vs 37.4 / 37.1 Shoulder: 57.9 / 56.5 vs 58.3 / 57.1 Hip: 55.4 / 55.4 vs 55.8 / 54.7 Trunk: 16.7 vs 16.1 Total volume: 119.5 vs 119.9
@@PlymouthNeon That is true. Cars need to stop growing. The Civic is now what Accord used to be and is not a compact car anymore. And sedan keeps getting lower to the ground and has lower roof. I just don’t understand the obsession with fastback design.
EPA’s fuel economy requirements are cruel to sedans. Only way to achieve them is to increase in size (they’re based on size) drop big engines, be more aero (shorter) and be hybrid
@@SeanChandler Oh ok. But isn’t that ironic? Bigger car may move to the higher bracket of emission limit. But that means the whole fleet will have higher emission.
@@pasitjaru9183 yes it’s very ironic. CAFE regulations are lighter bigger vehicles and trucks as the mpg target drops as vehicle increases in size. It’s broken down by sedans and trucks. Crossovers get lumped together with trucks and this gives them much easier fuel economy targets to reach.
200% agree with you. Originally went shopping for a Honda Accord but ended up buying a 2025 Toyota Camry due to pricing. The 2025 Camrys all come in hybrids now. Plus it's a model year newer and it had a sticker out the door almost $9,000 lower than the 2024 Honda Accord hybrid! The 2025 Camry which included destination charges and dealer add-ons (tint, wheel locks, all weather mats, trunk mat, etc.)and after dealer discount was $28.3k total out the door plus only sales tax. Honda refused to remove markups on any of their 2024 Accords which ran them up to $38k out the door!!! Needless to say, I now own a 2025 Camry and they were selling quickly days after hitting the Toyota lot, especially the lower price LE trims.
When I went to test drive my 23 civic sport that I did end up buying, I saw the new accord for the first time. I absolutely hated its design but was intrigued and wanted to know more about it. Overall it is a nice car, the design grew on me with particular colors but this car needs a redesign and some extra features. Personally think a higher trim civic is better
I said it from the beginning that the design/look of this car will be the reason it gets the slowest sales. Maybe this will bring Honda execs back to the drawing board to make a more aggressive yet elegant looking vehicle (plus the 2.0t)!
The Accord is just not what it was before! Great reliability , but it's just not exciting nor very competitive! Even the not so great looking civic is more exciting!
The Accord doesn't offer what the 2025 Camry does. There's no available all wheel drive and no panoramic sunroof. It also has less horsepower and lower fuel efficiency.
I'll break it down on my end. I'm in a metro area, first of it's a big car, sometimes it's nice but then there's maneuvering around tight crowed spaces & places and then parking spots(you're sitting low). If you're gonna go that big, you might be better off with a cuv/suv. A bit more room and sitting higher. It's a different experience when you can see over the hood. Wife loved the new pilot until she sat in it and couldn't see @5'5". Sat in an odyssey and took it home. Visibility is great all around. She had a 19 accord for 2 years and used a seat cushion for more height.
like I defended the 7th, 8th and 9th gen when people called them ugly. Finally the 10th gen looked good and I know so many people in their 20s who spent the extra money on the 10th gen for the style instead of getting a cheaper civic. Now it’s literally an old persons car and it’s sad. Also my local Honda dealer has far more accords than civics in stock so the problem is that clearly people don’t want them.
Charging more for a slower car that looks super generic is insane to me. The new camry will suffer too. Hyundai and kia on the other hand still offer faster models with the elantra, sonata, and K5 all at pretty decent prices when you compare what honda and toyota offer...
It sad that it’s gone but only 12% bought the 2.0 Turbo for its last year and the hybrid Touring was actually more expensive than the 2.0 Touring. It’s slower, but smoother, has similar acceleration around town and imo feels more premium than a V6/2.0 (outside of freeway driving) with almost twice the fuel economy.
More commodity Hyundai and Kia car on are on the slower side, for sure the Forte/K4s and K5s until you get to the sportier and pricier GT-Line and GT. The Accord I feel is boring all rounder. You want more style, go with any other mid-size sedan. Want MPG, go Camry. Want great value, go K5 or Sonata. I mean the interior is very nice and all, maybe the nicest in the segment and only standout part of the Accord, but again, every other competitor is really good too on that front. I low key hate how subdued it looks, the uniformity of body and headlights, the smaller Honda badge on the rear end, the ugly front grill, horribly ugly yet boring exterior.
@@aichan5235 The camry does look far better but the higher trims are going to suffer. Nobody is gonna pay 38 - 40k for a slow 4 cylinder. They paid that price for the extra power. Thats the reason why hyundai and kia are still killing it. They offer multiple different levels of power for each car they sell... I mean look at the Elantra N. You can get that car for less than 35k which has a 0-60 around 4.8 seconds stock. Thats pretty much the cheepest fastest car in production across the world right now... Plus its a really good looking car with solid interior...
It's not necessarily an ugly car, it just doesn't look like an accord, the civic looks more like an accord than the accord. Swap the front bumper with one from last gen and sales will double
Have the 2024 Sport. Love it. Yes, enthusiasts complain, but they’re a tiny minority of potential buyers. I like the grill and taillights and to me it looks better than the previous model.
I see a ton of them around. It’s growing on me. It looks good in sport trim, urban grey pearl, red and blue. If anything maybe they could change the grill and lower front facia. I despise the CUV/SUV movement. I drive a stinger now. That said i think the 25 civic hybrid will be faster, but it stinks running out of dad fast 4 door cars
I agree that it is a shame that sedans are going away as fast as grocery prices are rising. Subaru is pulling the plug on the Legacy after 2025. If the average American wasn't obese they would buy sedans instead of crossovers.
I remember when Honda was considered tops in the reliability ratings. Now the buzz seems to be that Toyota has the best engineering. I notice that Accord can now be optioned with Spyware which I would avoid like the plague. These are just my perceptions. In Colorado it's Toyota and Subaru.
I wanted a 23 Accord EX last year. I had 8200 equity in my trade. In Texas, my insurance in my 6 months would go up 445. A Civic was 440 more. The lowest cost was the 24 HRV EXL at 235. I bought the 24 HRV EXL on the lower insurance alone. I paid 29,000. No mark ups. Financed 20,500. I’m paying extra principal so I’m at 11,700. My Apr is 5.9. My payment is 342. Insurance 229 a month. I wanted an Accord but I refused to pay 300 a month for insurance.
Yes, this!! I cringed when I saw the first photo of the grille when they released the 2023 model. Honda, please update the grille and front of the vehicle for 2025…you could sell a lot more of these if there was some sportiness to it. No one wants to spend 35k+ on a bland looking vehicle.
Exactly. 8 year/100k warranty. Most folks buy an Accord to get that or more miles. Who wants an inevitable 2-8k expense like that? At least the Camry gives 10/150k on the battery.
Guess we are in the minority... I like the understated look of this Accord. About my only complaint is the front grill and headlight treatment is a bit too conservative and boxy, but otherwise, everything else about the design is nice. I especially like the taillight treatment and the wide stance of the vehicle.
Went to dealer in Louisville. Very plain EX was 35k plus 5k in worthless dealer add-onns. Told them keep it and I will keep mine 2009. Thank you greedy dealer.
I looked at the Accord earlier this year but I finally ended up with a Civic EX (Canadian version) ... I wanted nothing to do with their turbo engine. I much prefer the 2.0L normaly aspirated engine in my Civic ... as I live in a cold climate (Canada), turbo engines are not what I wanted.
Why is a great car not getting the sales it should? How about a $46,000 price plus a $5,000 markup plus taxes and mandatory fees that bring the price to over $60,000.
I have been a honda owner off and on for 25 years, it's the engine and trans that Honda goes with. looks are great. Turbo's and Cvt's people do not want, at least not me, give me a 2.4 non turbo with an 8 speed automatic or dual clutch and it would be a done deal. it's really the epa of this administration with their CAFE standards that has put a choke on the sales. plus people can't afford a new car right now either.
Long time loyal Honda fan here, until I got the 11th gen Honda Sport Hybrid. It was my biggest disappointment. Honda has sacrificed quality for quantity. After having the car for a little over a year now, my impression is that Honda has ripped off their customers by offering a vehicle with the lowest possible quality materials available on any automaker present in the US. The plastics are flimsy, and the cabin panels rattle and creak excessively. The plastics are a lot cheaper than a typical popular car. Don’t lean on the door when you’re on the ATM; the panel is so poorly built, it’ll break. My center console wasn’t installed properly, so it wobbles to the side as if it were an aftermarket accessory. Don’t make the same mistake I did, and assume the new gen is better or the same as the 10th gen (which was perfect). There are better options out there with better value. Honda is so lazy to install AC vents and USB ports in the back. Also, the rear door panels are made out of very thin plastic. When you shut it close, all you hear is thin sheet metal banging. Also, my Accord has been to the shop 9 times with issues related to the suspension, ball joints and worst of all, noisy steering. Stay away from any new Honda. After checking them out, I found all of them to be underwhelming. Maybe Honda is blind and they’re not concerned about the competition, but this will be my last one.
I've had Honda for the last 30 years - I'm about to trade my accord in but won't get another Honday. No AWD - biggest issue, the seat comfort sucks compared to my acura - close second, the dash needs an overhaul and frankly isn't it time somene offered a car with quality speakers? Why do $30K cars still require a bar to hold up the hood? I've had Honda my whole life but I'm going to get a toyota but I'll put in custom speakers.
No thanks. I'll take the new Camry. Honda kills the Accord..by many reasons. To me, there is no spare tire for higher trim. Why would I want to buy expensive car with less thing...
The camry its trash on the interior, i just saw a few videos of people just removing parts just pulling a little bit because its bad built, lesther is cheap and wont last longer Accord could look ugly on the exterior but at least its well built
The camry its trash on the interior, i just saw a few videos of people just removing parts just pulling a little bit because its bad built, lesther is cheap and wont last longer Accord could look ugly on the exterior but at least its well built
@@jraheemjefcoat429 i mean people can do what they want, to be honest the accord top trim is super expensive and overpriced, with 40k you can get a lexus easily Im just saying the quality on the camry’s top trim is trash, but camry SE is fine i guess for price/quality I currently have a honda civic sport 2024 and im planning in trade it for a corolla
It's the looks. The design peaked with the 10th gen and then for the 11th gen they went backwards. The 10th gen was absolutely stunning inside and out and offered the optional 2.0T
Just found your channel. Excellent analysis and well researched. I look forward to seeing others find your channel. One suggestion, spend a bit more time driving the car and sharing information while doing so..
It’s no coincidence that everyone photographs the car really low down because it hides the weird sense of narrowness and flatness of the front. This car should look far better than it does. I feel like they put in a poison pill to force everyone who still wants at a sedan to jump ship to a Civic, Integra or a TLX. If they want to keep customers, they need to step up… I hope there will be a few body changes in 2026 and a Sport+ type trim which will up the hp and torque specs on the hybrid to be closer to the earlier 2.0T
The car looks like those generic NPC cars driving around the map in a Need for Speed game
You know that you gave it away, when the Altima looks better.
@original__gmebvy not really, the accord looks great. I see them all over. the prob is honda is pushing the crv and the hrv
95% is the looks. Whoever design this need to be replaced real quick 😂
Looks like something out of the 80s.
I hated this cars looks when it came out, but it is growing on me, a little . But maybe not enough to buy one. Even the salesman I talked too hated it's exterior looks. The EX would be a decent value, but a 7" screen????? Come on Honda, my 2008 Accord has a bigger screen....Seriously!
It's rather the price, here in Europe it comes mainly with the 2 liters, 329h.p. engine, for the absurd price of 60.000 euros...
Who buys a sports car looking like a family car (but with a small trunk) and pays that much???
I thought the previous model was hideous. This is slightly less so.
@li0lo806 nah it looks fine. its the fact its basically hybrid only now
I have 3 Honda dealerships within 10 miles of my house. They all have over 135 Accords in stock. It's not a production issue....
You can never expect a company to admit their product lacks demand, even when it does
Correct!...it's not a production issue, it's a bank account issue, people don't have any money in them!
This issue should work itself out after January 2025...
Did you not listen to the beginning of the video. He stated that the first year of the redesign sold well. It’s the 2024 model that sales have slowed….
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@@jr1885 That is some strong legs. 1 year.
No V6, no 2.0T, no non-hybrid EX-L trim, and ugly as hell. What a shock
1.5t vs 2.0t yeah 0.5L ain’t a big difference. I agree it ugly as hell
I think it looks fine, juke is ugly, this isn't
Exactly
@@Leo-hwru drive a 2.0 then get into a 1.5
Then tell me how you feel
@@calebwany8422this is boring compared to the 10th and 9th gen
That's what happens when you make a huge sedan with Zero style. It looks like during the exterior design phase they made a base shape of what a sedan is (four doors, four wheels) and called it a day. No styling whatsoever.
Honda never had styling for an long time aside from the 10th gen. Hopefully they'll spice it up with the refresh
Looks like a bar of soap.
Honda can do way better with the looks!!
It's an acquired taste, you like it the more you see it
Compared to others in this class: No AWD, No 360 Camera, No Projector headlights, No Ambient lighting. Priced much higher than competitors that offer all of the above
Cameras aren't needed
No blind spot monitoring
Don't forget no heated steering wheel
The dam Kia K5 and Camry offers better gadgets and are looking way better than this ridiculed according
@@jsl02008what do you mean it has blind spot monitoring xd
It is the looks that are putting people off. Everything on this car are just straight lines. Headlights, taillights, grille outlines, grille details, bumpers, hood creases, and body creases are all just straight lines, and this is exacerbated on a large car like this. The front and rear overhang seems too long also. I have no doubt it is a great driving, reliable, and comfortable car (I used to own a 2013 Sport). The car doesnt just look generic, it doesn't look right. Cars are an emotional purchase, and looks is a big factor, especially when people are spending over $30k on a car.
this new accord doesn't drive too well. feels like it floats like a boat. it might create a sense of "comfortable" but honestly the pre-refresh Accord (both hybrid and 2.0 turbo) have better feelings
Well said.
Exactly. The proportions are off. It looks sad, even worse than prior Accords.
I still use my 2013 sport as a commuter and personally I like it better than the new version.
Actually, I don't like the seats in this car at all. I do like the styling (a lot of comments here say they don't) and it is probably reliable and very fuel efficient but having to deal with the arrogant salesmen and dealerships is a giant PITA. No more Hondas or Toyotas for me.
The last generation looked more sporty
a lot!!
This car just makes the civic a better deal. It looks lame imo and the interior is just the civics
Couldn't agree more. It's overpriced and Honda does unnecessary gatekeeping. To unlock some of the same features you would get in a Civic Touring for like 30k, you have to go all the way up to the Touring Hybrid on the Accord. Unless you absolutely need that extra space in a sedan I can't fathom how it's worth the money.
It’s ugly A F!!
I mean there isn't much of a market for big sedans yes, but I love the looks of the new accord in person.
@@kingdarius5252 Its not overpriced. Cars are getting more expensive and its natural for the Accord to increase in price. However the looks is an absolute downgrade from last gen.
It is overpriced. The Camry Hybrid pricing starts where the Accord gas motors start
It’s ugly. It’s so ugly it helps sell the other models.
not really. its nice as hell actually. the problem is a lot of buyers probably dont want hybrids. 80 percent of them on dealer lots are expensive hybrid versions
@@cantwealljustgetalong2 Funny, people are lining up to buy Toyota's hybrids.
@@cantwealljustgetalong2it has virtually nothing to do with being a hybrid. Hybrids are everywhere and the majority of people actually prefer them.
The accord isn’t selling because of exactly what the OP originally stated… this thing is U.G.L.Y!!!!!!!! It looks like a 2012 Ford Taurus and it SEVERELY lacks features found in most other classes while demanding at or over $40,000.00 for the top trim.
They use reflector-beam led headlights (cost cutting… and may I mention, not even auto-leveling), they only offer a single-pane sun roof, no power folding mirrors, only the driver and front passenger doors have smart access feature, while they do have a “fully” digital gauge cluster it’s tiny in size to others and has a massive plastic border around it that doesn’t even fill out the entire cluster-area (again, cost cutting), no awd option, no spare tire (cost cutting..again), no homelink garage buttons unless you pay $500 extra for it, no heated steering wheel (cost cutting, especially for this class), no 360 degree camera, only TWO TRIMS (ex-l and touring) offer rear air vents, and the list continues.
Honda for as long as they’ve been around have been reserving these so-called “luxury” features for their Acura division without realizing that Acura does not sell well!!!! They’ve been declining in sales for such a long time and have always been behind Lexus’ shadow. If Honda just took the features they hoard with Acura and used them in their own cars while simultaneously turned Acura into a true German-rival brand, then they could actually move forward like the rest of the automakers. Ffs, I’d rather have a Kia at this point and that’s speaking volumes coming from someone who is a Japanese brand diehard. It’s pathetic!!!
There not selling because drivers don’t like crappy sedans. Nothing like looking at the underside of proper cars that sit at a more natural height. It’s pretty sad when a 6 year old kid stands taller than your car.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q People can sure weird out over the strangest things.
It’s funny how they went from the previous generation to this.
I must be weird; I've always thought the new Accord looks great: classy, timeless, and handsome. But I've heard almost entirely negative comments on it looks online.
I agree
I agree, it's beautiful, classy looking overall, much like a top of the line Audi. I own a 2015 Accord Touring V6 that I like so much that I cannot let it go but if I were ready to trade the new Accord would be it
I like it. I also buy an Accord because of its reputation of being at least a 200k miles car. If I want looks, I would go Hyundai if I don't care about the long term.
Agree!
Was talking to my wife about trading in her Insite for an Accord. Then I saw the new design and was like ohhhh. Now she wants a Hyundai. Good lord!
They need to add standard rear ac vents and charging ports on all trims
Ludicrous omissions, cheap cheap cheap. My 2015 f150 xl has both...
The 10th generation looked better and they also made the mistake of getting rid of the 2.0 turbo.
@MrA-ir3me Missed the 2.0, but not enough bought it to stay. So it'll be an rare one to find later on, especially an manual version of it.
@MrA-ir3me it had poor sales because honda didnt send any to dealerships. they were very very hard to find and if you wanted the dealership to order one they would give you a hard time because they wanted to sell what they had in stock
@@Jumperman12mac you cant buy something that dealerships refused to keep in stock
@@cantwealljustgetalong2 It's like the coupes....They were great, but just not enough demand for them.
@@BarryWeaver-pv6cz And manuals, sadly.
Keep on reducing power on the Accord and see who will buy: no v6, no 2.0t
Just an overpriced, oil diluting head gasget blowing pos with a CVT!
I mean Toyota got rid of the V6 in the Camry and the Camry is still selling like hotcakes. Power really isn’t an issue when not many people bought the V6 or turbo-4 when it was around in this car, and its rival is still selling well without a V6 too.
EX-L hybrid owner. Over 1 year 50 MPG, roomy, zero reliability issues, best Honda I’ve owned since the 5th gen bomb proof Accord. Yeah looks are what you make of it, for me it doesn’t have a Ram truck grill and handles any road.
I had a 2023 Accord EX 1.5t that I just traded in on a 2024 CRV Hybrid Sport last week.
I thought it was a nice car for 26k when we purchased it used last year. Only problem is that my wife kept hitting her head on the door sill getting in
and out of the vehicle. the crv hybrid is getting around 40 mpg around our area right now and the accord was only getting 34-36 mpg in mixed driving.
We needed something a little bigger and my wife is used to SUV's.
I will say we got 41.9 mpg on a trip which was mostly highway driving between 55-65 mph in the accord.
I own a hybrid sport. It’s the perfect commuter car and everyday family sedan. The extra space and roomier size of the car is worth the extra price than the civic hybrid imo. Only negative I have to say about the car is the seats aren’t that comfortable. Smooth and handles well. Good fuel economy.
Crazy prices and everybody buying SUVs…. They not have awd and no spare tire things that the Camry offer.
Just a couple of real life anecdotes:
1) My neighbor had a 2.0T 10AT, but didn't like the gas mileage and replaced it with a CR-V Hybrid. He now complains about lack of power, but well, we can't have everything.
2) I don't like large cars, so I own a Fit and a Civic, both manual transmission.
1. Is he acoustic? 2. The accord isn't like that much bigger than a civic and more space inside
@catsspat lol how do you go from a 2.0T accord to a crap hybrid mommy mobile
Save the manuals! I have an accord with a 5spd man.
@@thsarethbreaks i had 2 camrys with a 5 speed manual, i miss them. very fun cars
@@cantwealljustgetalong2 Yeah I would like to try on of those Camrys with the manual transmission.
I find it interesting that the '25's are not out yet. Makes me wonder if an emergency refresh is in the works...
Indeed 🤔 - The 2012 Civic (that was replaced after one model year) sold through most of 2011 and all of 2012. The 2013 released in Jan? 2013
Hopefully!!
@@smf15 Its not just the Accord.The new CRV looks horrible .Looks almost invisible.Like it was scavenged from Darth Vader's dungeon.
@@1997inspire th-cam.com/video/UYZoxY3sawE/w-d-xo.html
@@1997inspire I think the CR-V looks OK in the sport trims. The Accord would only benefit from a more aggressive grille like the CR-V, but even with that I'm not sure I could get past the overly elongated hood and overall size.
I just love my 2024 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring!
I'm happy for you, but you did overpaid and probably would have better value from a CRV. But if you love it, who cares... enjoy!!!
I don't see it as a bad car objectively, it's just that 1) it's not a crossover, and 2) other models in its class have AWD available and this does not. How much you willing to bet the 0 Series becomes the next Accord with a hatch?
Also, if it's like the CR-V Sport Touring, the top trim Accord Hybrid should be able to anticipate hills on the route entered into the navigation system and adjust its powertrain accordingly so.it.can maximize EV mode and regen on the downhills.
I do wonder what the take rate is for an AWD Camry/Prius. Perhaps Honda thinks customers would just go for a CR-V instead of paying an extra $1500 for an awd Accord?
I wish I could have tested the hills more. I went over a mountain pass and noticed the battery was full not long after descending. Perhaps an unmapped road? but a slight bummer for energy recapture.
Exactly, one of the main reasons I didn't consider accord is because it didn't come with an AWD
All sedans are seeing sales nosedive. The Civic is an exception a) because it's a compact car (the sedan market has shrunk from the top down starting with the "full-size" sedans like the Avalon and Maxima, now the mid-size cars) and b) because it's the best in its class by a massive margin and arguably the best Civic ever.
The Accord also got rid of nearly every single sporty feature: 2.0T, manual, aggressive styling. Still surprised to hear of the poor sales though because I see a ton of them on the road. I also like the clean, contemporary styling. Everyone said the new Civic looked boring too until they saw it in person.
One of the biggest things that build a case for the Civic is the availability of a hatchback version that rivals in practicality to the HRV. Prius, Corolla hatch, and Mazda3 are not designed with practicality in mind because Toyota and Mazda are betting on subcompact CUVs instead of compact hatchbacks.
Every Honda dealer I’ve visited here in the southeast all have plenty of Honda accords. I don’t think it has anything to do with manufacturing the car, it’s just the design route the company took along with poor options compared to the competition.
Oh add to that the absence of the powerful 2.0T engine makes it a no go no purchase for the driving enthusiasts that want that extra oomph. The hybrid 2.0 is just too slow and Whimpy!!😢
@@RespectfullyHumble What driving enthusiast has ever wanted to drive an Accord?
At first I wanted the accord. But I just did not like the design and I felt like it was over priced, it had similar prices to CRV. I went for 24 civic touring, I got a better discount.
The ugly look accounts for its low sales. Look at the new Toyota Camry beautiful look. The Accord handling is good far better than the Camry and equally reliable too. Honda should work more on their design language
I have been drinking Accords for almost 30 years now, and the problem with the latest model is 100% the look. It’s terrible! The Chinese version looks great!
Where is the 2.0T? Where is the EX-L trim without a hybrid? Where is the great design of last gen? Sales will definitely nose dive.
The last gen styling was ugly af... This one looks bland, not ugly or good. Just bland. Back end looks decent though.
The only advantage over the Civic, especially now that Honda released an Hybrid Civic, is that you have air vents for the back seats and memory seats (I hope anyway on some of the Accord upper trims).
But otherwise, the Civic is snappier, nimbler and you can get a hatch if you’re into this type of body shape.
Yes, the Civic is not as roomy per se, but it’s not a huge difference either.
If Honda had put memory seats in the Sport Touring Civic, I would still own mine. Two years of driving joy.
First world problem I reckon, but when you are frequently switching between cars with your significant other, it’s a nice gimmick.
I had one as a rental for a week and was impressed. Super quiet, comfortable, and in the hybrid Sport I got incredible fuel economy. I didn’t find the look offputting, just, well, boring.
in 40 years i have never seen a honda at a rental company, only toyotas, jeeps etc. where did you rent one?
@@duaneafieldsI think it was Hertz or Avis at SFO. I also had a civic as a rental in Providence, RI last year.
Honda doesn't Rental/Fleet sales, either the rental co. go out of their way & buy one at a dealer or a dealer was desperate to sell and offered them.
Nobody wants a short-lived turbo, especially the 1.5T. Bring back the K24 & V6
there it is. exactly. no cvt.
What's your opinion on the mazdas 2.5 Turbo?
The 2.0T is fun af though
@@ViciousFirearmsPlease explain
@@mrdave777 Perfect amount of power for a daily. Has plenty of passing power on the freeway but can still get good gas mileage if you're easy on the pedal.
The design bro! the design! people are clear about it, it’s Ugly the previous Gen looks newer
Nowadays car companies just throwing trash in customer’s face like they don’t care 🤷🏽♂️
A big thing is that there’s no real reason to buy the accord over the civic. The civic is so large and so good that why buy an accord when the civic is cheaper and looks way better. It’s a good car just not worth it.
The civic has too much road noise.
Doesn't the civic have less leg room?
@@paulcarlin5181 it does, but it still has great leg room, they packaged the civic extremely well so it’s not a huge difference and to everyone expect super tall families shouldn’t care
I think people were very disappointed that the 2.0t option was dropped, but also, the previous gen was more distinctive in appearance. The new front end is extremely generic looking and if anything looks similar to the last Taurus that was sold in the US, which is very unfortunate. They basically went from a near sports sedan with some legit performance cred to a Häagen-Dazs vanilla-as-can-be sedan that no one really notices in traffic. Even though it may be a very good car, it just doesn’t stand out. And the performance of the 2.0T can't be matched by the hybrid in its current form. between those two major factors, I think interest has just dwindled with the new generation. You can say it’s just a decreased interest in sedan in general, which has some truth, but Camry and Corolla are still selling in comparatively big numbers.
as a lifelong honda fanboy, there is no compelling reason to choose the accord over the civic, especially now that the civic hybrid exists. by taking away the manual, 2.0t, etc the accord just "blends in". even the sonata comes with a 2.5t still, and the camry, while losing its v6, gets hybrid+optional awd on all trims. even the altima kept its 2.0 turbo, and still offers optional awd on the 1.6. what stanout feature does the accord have that the civic doesn't?
And the new Camry looks wayyy better. The 2.0 (especially with the manual) used to make the Accord a great sleeper car.
Now there doesn’t seem to be a clear part of the market they are going after
I agree with all that you have said and it seems that Honda is just relying on the fact that the Accord has been the best car in it's class for generations. I don't hate the new Accord but it wouldn't be in my garage.
Honda fanboys are toxic AF when people criticize the Civic's flaws. you know it's true.
I got the civic sport 2024 and i want to trade it for an accord, civic seats are súper uncomfortable, and the accord cluster is way better. Also i had to went to service 2 times already with the civic and i just got it since april
@@ottawasbestcoffee6511new camry interior its super trash and cheap, i saw a lot of videos that people can just remove parts of the car pulling it off a little bit, the leather is cheap and wont last longer, the screen feels bad assembled, etc
I’m a huge Honda/Acura fan. Got my first Honda in 1985 when I was 17. Have owned nothing but Hondas or Acuras since. Have always chosen their higher performing engine options, (V6, 2.0T). This new Accord is the most disappointing Accord in my life and has me probably leaving the Honda family after 39 years of loyalty. I currently have a ‘21 Accord Touring 2.0T which I love. I appreciate the new Accord for what it is but it has abandoned its commitment to higher performance, which abandons me in the process. The TLX offers the 2.0T but that car is so heavy, that even with the extra 20hp it offers, it’s slower than my Accord. The Type S version is way more expensive and gets horrendous mileage, not to mention that the TLX is considerably less roomy than my car. So, where does that leave me as a lifelong Honda customer? All I want is a decent looking sedan, that is fairly roomy and offers at least as much performance as my current Accord, if not more, for less than $45k. There’s not much being offered now that meets my criteria. Fortunately, I’m not in the market for a newer car right now. I’m still very content with what I have. But I always like to know what to aim for when thinking about my next car. This is the first time in my life, when I’ve been lost in that regard. I’m exceedingly disappointed by Honda’s decision to forsake performance for fuel economy. I don’t mind that they prioritize fuel economy. I just wish that they also offered more power to those of us who prefer it.
I’ve owned Accords and the only trim level of the current Accord that I would buy would be the Touring model.
I’ve got a Platinum White Pearl 2.0T touring and it’s truly a treat to own & drive. The 11th gen doesn’t hit me the way the 10th gen did when it dropped. I still stare at them on the road, even when I’m in my own.
I previously owned a 2012 Honda Accord 250,000 miles at time of trade in.I wanted to be loyal and buy another Honda Accord but the design looks horrible and there’s no spare tire.So I bought a beautiful 2025 Toyota Camry with a spare tire and free maintenance for the first 24 months of ownership of this vehicle.
Sucks that the Camry is now all hybrid. I don't want to have to replace a battery.
The outgoing model looked a lot better. I hope the next gen returns to that style and improves on it even more. There are a lot of artists renditions out there that pull cues from the prior model and make it look amazing.
People keep bringing up looks as if the Accord has ever been a looker. The Accord isn’t selling well simply because it’s no longer a value leader. It’s expensive and the CRV is now a better value. Also the Civic is all grown up, cheaper and replaces the Accord’s old roots quite well.
Thank you! First off, the sedan market is a sinking ship... And with the Civic being so good, cheaper, same interior, no more 2.0 t in the Accord, and the Civic wearing a slightly more attractive exterior design--it's helping to kill off the Accord.
Yes but have you driven a CRV? They drive and ride like crap! The Accord is so much better of a drive and ride, if you care about that!!
@@BarryWeaver-pv6cz I totally get it, however a majority of Americans no longer see sedans as practical vehicles. When comparing prices they see the equivalent CRV or cheaper Civic as better buys.
@@BarryWeaver-pv6czaccord is also roomier
@@BarryWeaver-pv6cz I don't agree that the 2024 CRV drives and rides like crap? How do you know?
I have a 24 Accord touring and I love it. I had the 21 Accord and I enjoyed that one too, but this one is so much better. I wasn’t feeling the looks of the car at first, but when I started seeing it on the street, my view of it changed. Funny enough that was the same thing with me with the 10th generation Accord and before I knew it I had that one too. As the months go by, I’m seeing more and more of the current Accord on the road. I guess it depends on where you live, but they’re starting to make their presence known & that’s a good thing because it’s a great car.
People really think it’s ugly 🤷🏽♂️
Yup. Mostly just dull and boring. It doesn't really even look like a Honda. I expect more from Honda.
And they're 100% its fugly indeed! Itvlooks like 💩!!
Absurd new design! While the previous generation was great
Truth Gen 10 design was better, had way more character, and was in the vein of the Honda of the late 1980s!
I say blame pickup trucks and SUV's/CUV's. Too many people want big cars now which has taken a lot of the spotlight away from smaller vehicles. Just look at how Honda took away the Fit.
1.5 liter turbo engine was a bad idea
For me, it’s pricing. Accords and Camrys in the $30-$40K range seems insane. Just my 2 cents.
Not to mention $60k Tacoma's. 😳
This thing is actually comparable to the late Avalon size-wise.
Accord EX-L vs Avalon XLE
Leg: 42.3 / 40.8 vs 42.1 / 40.4
Head: 37.5 / 37.2 vs 37.4 / 37.1
Shoulder: 57.9 / 56.5 vs 58.3 / 57.1
Hip: 55.4 / 55.4 vs 55.8 / 54.7
Trunk: 16.7 vs 16.1
Total volume: 119.5 vs 119.9
One thing shoppers want is not-so-big and good ground clearance. The accord keeps getting bigger and bigger and lower to the ground.
@@PlymouthNeon That is true. Cars need to stop growing. The Civic is now what Accord used to be and is not a compact car anymore.
And sedan keeps getting lower to the ground and has lower roof. I just don’t understand the obsession with fastback design.
EPA’s fuel economy requirements are cruel to sedans. Only way to achieve them is to increase in size (they’re based on size) drop big engines, be more aero (shorter) and be hybrid
@@SeanChandler Oh ok. But isn’t that ironic? Bigger car may move to the higher bracket of emission limit. But that means the whole fleet will have higher emission.
@@pasitjaru9183 yes it’s very ironic. CAFE regulations are lighter bigger vehicles and trucks as the mpg target drops as vehicle increases in size. It’s broken down by sedans and trucks. Crossovers get lumped together with trucks and this gives them much easier fuel economy targets to reach.
200% agree with you. Originally went shopping for a Honda Accord but ended up buying a 2025 Toyota Camry due to pricing. The 2025 Camrys all come in hybrids now. Plus it's a model year newer and it had a sticker out the door almost $9,000 lower than the 2024 Honda Accord hybrid! The 2025 Camry which included destination charges and dealer add-ons (tint, wheel locks, all weather mats, trunk mat, etc.)and after dealer discount was $28.3k total out the door plus only sales tax. Honda refused to remove markups on any of their 2024 Accords which ran them up to $38k out the door!!! Needless to say, I now own a 2025 Camry and they were selling quickly days after hitting the Toyota lot, especially the lower price LE trims.
Everyone already said it, but they completely missed with the design.
When I went to test drive my 23 civic sport that I did end up buying, I saw the new accord for the first time. I absolutely hated its design but was intrigued and wanted to know more about it. Overall it is a nice car, the design grew on me with particular colors but this car needs a redesign and some extra features. Personally think a higher trim civic is better
I said it from the beginning that the design/look of this car will be the reason it gets the slowest sales.
Maybe this will bring Honda execs back to the drawing board to make a more aggressive yet elegant looking vehicle (plus the 2.0t)!
The fact the '25s are not out yet makes me think they're working some sort of emergency refresh. Unfortunately I don't see any powertrain changes.
The Accord is just not what it was before! Great reliability , but it's just not exciting nor very competitive! Even the not so great looking civic is more exciting!
CVT, nobody want CVT transmission. Since 2015 the sales have gone down because of CVT transmission!
I think the camry hybrid starts at a slightly lower price.
That might be a big reason.
The Accord doesn't offer what the 2025 Camry does. There's no available all wheel drive and no panoramic sunroof. It also has less horsepower and lower fuel efficiency.
I'll break it down on my end. I'm in a metro area, first of it's a big car, sometimes it's nice but then there's maneuvering around tight crowed spaces & places and then parking spots(you're sitting low). If you're gonna go that big, you might be better off with a cuv/suv. A bit more room and sitting higher. It's a different experience when you can see over the hood. Wife loved the new pilot until she sat in it and couldn't see @5'5". Sat in an odyssey and took it home. Visibility is great all around. She had a 19 accord for 2 years and used a seat cushion for more height.
I see them everywhere, and they look good imo.
Looks sharp in person, but pictures don't do the car any justice.
I see them, too. And, it's driven by senior citizens.
like I defended the 7th, 8th and 9th gen when people called them ugly. Finally the 10th gen looked good and I know so many people in their 20s who spent the extra money on the 10th gen for the style instead of getting a cheaper civic. Now it’s literally an old persons car and it’s sad. Also my local Honda dealer has far more accords than civics in stock so the problem is that clearly people don’t want them.
Maybe that gives the buyer power off that MSRP. 31k can be had for 27-28k. I saw a demo Accord with 4k miles base for 26k. That was a good deal.
It was very thoughtful of Honda to make the next generation Taurus since Ford decided to get out of the car business.
I have no idea why people are hating on the design. The exterior looks great if not better than the camry
Agreed
this is a good car for insurance ads cause it looks so anonymous
Brilliant observation that cutting the price would increase sales!
Charging more for a slower car that looks super generic is insane to me. The new camry will suffer too. Hyundai and kia on the other hand still offer faster models with the elantra, sonata, and K5 all at pretty decent prices when you compare what honda and toyota offer...
It sad that it’s gone but only 12% bought the 2.0 Turbo for its last year and the hybrid Touring was actually more expensive than the 2.0 Touring. It’s slower, but smoother, has similar acceleration around town and imo feels more premium than a V6/2.0 (outside of freeway driving) with almost twice the fuel economy.
lol not camry, camry looks 10x better than the accord and camry is the top selling sedan in the U.S
@@aichan5235lol and the accord will be discontinued soon
More commodity Hyundai and Kia car on are on the slower side, for sure the Forte/K4s and K5s until you get to the sportier and pricier GT-Line and GT.
The Accord I feel is boring all rounder. You want more style, go with any other mid-size sedan. Want MPG, go Camry. Want great value, go K5 or Sonata. I mean the interior is very nice and all, maybe the nicest in the segment and only standout part of the Accord, but again, every other competitor is really good too on that front.
I low key hate how subdued it looks, the uniformity of body and headlights, the smaller Honda badge on the rear end, the ugly front grill, horribly ugly yet boring exterior.
@@aichan5235 The camry does look far better but the higher trims are going to suffer. Nobody is gonna pay 38 - 40k for a slow 4 cylinder. They paid that price for the extra power. Thats the reason why hyundai and kia are still killing it. They offer multiple different levels of power for each car they sell... I mean look at the Elantra N. You can get that car for less than 35k which has a 0-60 around 4.8 seconds stock. Thats pretty much the cheepest fastest car in production across the world right now... Plus its a really good looking car with solid interior...
It's not necessarily an ugly car, it just doesn't look like an accord, the civic looks more like an accord than the accord. Swap the front bumper with one from last gen and sales will double
Honda urgently needs a change of designers Mechanically excellent cars but with very poor designs
Their*** reliability has dropped. 1.5T oil dilution, anyone?
Hyundai's look great, but mechanically suck. I will take the Accord approach in 2024.
Have the 2024 Sport. Love it. Yes, enthusiasts complain, but they’re a tiny minority of potential buyers. I like the grill and taillights and to me it looks better than the previous model.
I see a ton of them around. It’s growing on me. It looks good in sport trim, urban grey pearl, red and blue. If anything maybe they could change the grill and lower front facia. I despise the CUV/SUV movement. I drive a stinger now. That said i think the 25 civic hybrid will be faster, but it stinks running out of dad fast 4 door cars
I agree that it is a shame that sedans are going away as fast as grocery prices are rising. Subaru is pulling the plug on the Legacy after 2025. If the average American wasn't obese they would buy sedans instead of crossovers.
Stinger is such an underrated, beautiful car
I remember when Honda was considered tops in the reliability ratings. Now the buzz seems to be that Toyota has the best engineering. I notice that Accord can now be optioned with Spyware which I would avoid like the plague. These are just my perceptions. In Colorado it's Toyota and Subaru.
idk new toyotas are being recalled & had stop sales on some. in Colorado you wouldn't get a Honda sedan because there's no AWD option.
I wanted a 23 Accord EX last year. I had 8200 equity in my trade. In Texas, my insurance in my 6 months would go up 445. A Civic was 440 more. The lowest cost was the 24 HRV EXL at 235. I bought the 24 HRV EXL on the lower insurance alone. I paid 29,000. No mark ups. Financed 20,500. I’m paying extra principal so I’m at 11,700. My Apr is 5.9. My payment is 342. Insurance 229 a month. I wanted an Accord but I refused to pay 300 a month for insurance.
That's wild! $300 for just an Accord? I'm paying $310 for 3 cars including my 392 Dodge Challenger (full coverage) here in California of all places.
or buy a used car for lower insurance and no payment and cheap tags and bam profit. I fail to see how you came out ahead.
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Thank you that means a lot! I hope to keep improving
Absolutely love my '21 Accord touring edition 2.0T. Even more power than my 2000 Accord v6. Honda did it right in 21.
maybe change the front grill for starters? I refuse to buy a honda accord until they change it
Yes, this!! I cringed when I saw the first photo of the grille when they released the 2023 model. Honda, please update the grille and front of the vehicle for 2025…you could sell a lot more of these if there was some sportiness to it. No one wants to spend 35k+ on a bland looking vehicle.
I mean, the back of the car looks nice and modern. Why can’t we have a front to match?
Heck, just use the grille pattern from the CR-V…that one is nice!!
its not that bad ... 😂
Yes the last generation has lots more personality, and good styling!
The car is selling great at my dealership. It started slow, but it's finding it's audience.
Is there another redesign for 2025?
Who, seniors?
Why does Honda insist in making these models bigger every generation jeez...
I call it the Buick accord ugliest car ever
I see more of the base trim driving around. Some people just don't want hybrids.
Exactly. 8 year/100k warranty. Most folks buy an Accord to get that or more miles. Who wants an inevitable 2-8k expense like that? At least the Camry gives 10/150k on the battery.
@@paulcarlin5181 I think they are just afraid of new tech. My hybrid crv will last me and the next owner quite some time before it needs a battery.
God I love how this accord looks
Especially in all black
Guess we are in the minority... I like the understated look of this Accord. About my only complaint is the front grill and headlight treatment is a bit too conservative and boxy, but otherwise, everything else about the design is nice. I especially like the taillight treatment and the wide stance of the vehicle.
All black looks super nice
It does look great in black - just about any other color screams grandpa car.
Went to dealer in Louisville. Very plain EX was 35k plus 5k in worthless dealer add-onns. Told them keep it and I will keep mine 2009. Thank you greedy dealer.
11th generation accord.... Lost its sportiness. It looks too plain.
I looked at the Accord earlier this year but I finally ended up with a Civic EX (Canadian version) ... I wanted nothing to do with their turbo engine.
I much prefer the 2.0L normaly aspirated engine in my Civic ... as I live in a cold climate (Canada), turbo engines are not what I wanted.
Why is a great car not getting the sales it should? How about a $46,000 price plus a $5,000 markup plus taxes and mandatory fees that bring the price to over $60,000.
There is no Accord in America selling for 60k.
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Where in the USA are you seeing an Accord for $60K? That's just BS.
I have been a honda owner off and on for 25 years, it's the engine and trans that Honda goes with. looks are great. Turbo's and Cvt's people do not want, at least not me, give me a 2.4 non turbo with an 8 speed automatic or dual clutch and it would be a done deal. it's really the epa of this administration with their CAFE standards that has put a choke on the sales. plus people can't afford a new car right now either.
The new accord looking ugly and ugliest
I like your demeanor. This is the first video I've seen. You just got a new subscriber.
Awesome and thank you!
i miss the crab claw lights!
it just looks like a dodge charger to me now which i hate lol
Nah. The back of this new model looks better. The front looks worse though.
Long time loyal Honda fan here, until I got the 11th gen Honda Sport Hybrid. It was my biggest disappointment. Honda has sacrificed quality for quantity. After having the car for a little over a year now, my impression is that Honda has ripped off their customers by offering a vehicle with the lowest possible quality materials available on any automaker present in the US. The plastics are flimsy, and the cabin panels rattle and creak excessively. The plastics are a lot cheaper than a typical popular car. Don’t lean on the door when you’re on the ATM; the panel is so poorly built, it’ll break. My center console wasn’t installed properly, so it wobbles to the side as if it were an aftermarket accessory. Don’t make the same mistake I did, and assume the new gen is better or the same as the 10th gen (which was perfect). There are better options out there with better value. Honda is so lazy to install AC vents and USB ports in the back. Also, the rear door panels are made out of very thin plastic. When you shut it close, all you hear is thin sheet metal banging. Also, my Accord has been to the shop 9 times with issues related to the suspension, ball joints and worst of all, noisy steering. Stay away from any new Honda. After checking them out, I found all of them to be underwhelming. Maybe Honda is blind and they’re not concerned about the competition, but this will be my last one.
I think you just got a faulty car.
@@Nick_MG Yes, but the design is terrible and the materials are cheap in general. Even the newer models have bad quality.
@mbcaiost we talking about the accord, right? Not the civic?
I've had Honda for the last 30 years - I'm about to trade my accord in but won't get another Honday. No AWD - biggest issue, the seat comfort sucks compared to my acura - close second, the dash needs an overhaul and frankly isn't it time somene offered a car with quality speakers? Why do $30K cars still require a bar to hold up the hood? I've had Honda my whole life but I'm going to get a toyota but I'll put in custom speakers.
No thanks. I'll take the new Camry. Honda kills the Accord..by many reasons. To me, there is no spare tire for higher trim. Why would I want to buy expensive car with less thing...
Same thing with the Camry. Not even that but the new Camry is so cheaply build that just by pulling not even hard the trim would literally come out.😂
The camry its trash on the interior, i just saw a few videos of people just removing parts just pulling a little bit because its bad built, lesther is cheap and wont last longer
Accord could look ugly on the exterior but at least its well built
The camry its trash on the interior, i just saw a few videos of people just removing parts just pulling a little bit because its bad built, lesther is cheap and wont last longer
Accord could look ugly on the exterior but at least its well built
@@Joseabh24So what do you suggest the people to get since the new Accord is ugly as sin?
@@jraheemjefcoat429 i mean people can do what they want, to be honest the accord top trim is super expensive and overpriced, with 40k you can get a lexus easily
Im just saying the quality on the camry’s top trim is trash, but camry SE is fine i guess for price/quality
I currently have a honda civic sport 2024 and im planning in trade it for a corolla
It's the looks. The design peaked with the 10th gen and then for the 11th gen they went backwards. The 10th gen was absolutely stunning inside and out and offered the optional 2.0T
it looks like a old school crown victoria. Honda, it is 2024 -- get with the program.
Very informative video. Just stumbled upon this video and you earned yourself a subscriber! Pre 10k club.
Hey thanks! Appreciate that!
This car seems to be selling like hot cakes from what I can see visually. I always see them on the road from young people to old people driving them.
Just found your channel. Excellent analysis and well researched. I look forward to seeing others find your channel. One suggestion, spend a bit more time driving the car and sharing information while doing so..
Thank you. I will certainly try to have an improved driving section next time
because it is an ugly car
It’s no coincidence that everyone photographs the car really low down because it hides the weird sense of narrowness and flatness of the front. This car should look far better than it does. I feel like they put in a poison pill to force everyone who still wants at a sedan to jump ship to a Civic, Integra or a TLX.
If they want to keep customers, they need to step up…
I hope there will be a few body changes in 2026 and a Sport+ type trim which will up the hp and torque specs on the hybrid to be closer to the earlier 2.0T