Why Power Shifting Is A Terrible Idea
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Power shifting is just like regular shifting in a manual transmission, but you never lift your foot off the gas pedal - clutch goes in and out, while your right foot remains planted and the gear shift is executed. The problem is if you keep the gas pedal down while shifting, your engine RPM goes up, but your transmission wants a lower RPM, so this discrepancy is handled by the clutch, creating a shock load within the system. But you can design your way out of this, watch to learn more!
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why do we accomodate fools? we already had flat foot shifting, it was called a shitty automatic.
Make video about clutch boosters and electronic clutch actuators etc.
That’s not how you power shift….. power shifting is when you let off the gas slam the next gear and back on the gas without using the clutch….
power shifting is shifting while feathering the throttle, you never touch the clutch. study before you make a video
No lift shift, not power shift, and this isn’t the best way to do it.
The best way to do it is to go very close to the rev limiter, clutch in and slam the shifter to the next gear, release clutch slightly slower than usual for traction(if needed). This way, nothing is really working wrong.
i have never thought power shifting was a good idea lol
Fast and furious kids... They have ideas that are like nails on chalkboards to anyone with mechanical sympathy.
It works okay if you're drag racing old American V8 hot rods, but those tend to have much heavier rotating assemblies and flywheels than modern sports cars, so the rpms don't jump up too much, at least not if you jam the shifter into the next gear quickly enough. Rev hang is still a problem, though. Your engine will still be spinning faster than your transmission's input shaft wants to go, and you'll still cause shock loading through your clutch plate(s).
@@saccaed 💯💯💯💯💯
If you have a 2 step system that can temporarily lower your rev limit, you can hook it to the clutch switch and achieve a similar effect.
@@saccaed No, they're good ideas for racing when you've got the money and knowledge to work on your car daily (because you'll have to, considering you're wearing your parts out a LOT sooner).
Don't use the shift like a noob, stick your hand into the clutch and move the gears around yourself like a REAL man.
This made laugh good, thanks for that!
Ha, you think you're a real man becuase you use your bare hands. Try removing the bottom of the car, picking it up from the inside and then running around with it like Fred Flintstone. That's how a real man drives a car.
@@thechicken1477 LMAO
Don't forget the Handbrake, by opening the door and punching the asphalte to brake, Like a man!
@@TheSpectralFXNOOOOO 😅 AHHHH mannn that was a good one!!
I usually just shove the shifter till the grinding stops
The ultimate power shift to display dominance over your transmission.
Grind em til ya find em
No gears, no problem 👍
Grind it till you find it! 😂
😂😂😂
My 2006 civic is going to love this
For real? Or sarcasm? I am conpuzzled
@@dorbenyamin-bar8660 nah im being sarcastic
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Guess you will be calling Uber, for getting around 😂😂😂😂
@user-ev4pb9xj7e Well he was joking, plus Honda's last long asf & built tough. Hope I don't get whooshed lol
Wait, are you saying it's not normal to have to replace my clutch plate every six months?
Damn 😂
Depends, if you're travelling to the moon and back, you'll probably have to replace it anyway :D
Apple here: it's normal. Keep on going!
depends on if you’re racing your car or not
You guys were measuring your clutch life in months, not hours?
As a guy who has to fix cars....... Keep on power shifting😊
As a guy who builds and races his own cars/trucks/mx bikes, let them hand out more advice that leads to funny videos about busted rigs.👍
@@justlucky8254so you shouldn't actually power shift?
@@adithyalal489did you listen to the video?
@@adithyalal489you aren't sharp at all are ya? Your brain doesn't register any information you JUST learned?? Wow....😬
@@nullobject7966no, he's deaf, blind, noseblind, can't taste, and can't feel anything.
I didn't know people actually would do something like this.
I had a car that was tuned for it
Big rigs float gears, clutch only for starting and stopping. Use rpms to shift/float gears... very nice...😊
Exactly. I used my clutch to stop and start only.
I call it the Start Pedal, the Stop Pedal, and the Passing Pedal, because I did everything else with cruise control and Jake lol
Also a very slow way to shift if not automated.
it has power in the name, you cant stop me
Don't worry, your car will at some point hahahaha
Your destroyed gearbox and clutch will, don't worry about that
if not the destroyed gearbox and clutch then your money will stop you, cant imagine its cheap to keep replacing parts every few months
Then we'll call it dead clutch shifting ;)
*POWER!!!*
*“Don’t shift like a normal and responsable person. Shift like a total jackass”*
?
@@itsmefinnstar160 he said “don’t shift like a normal and responsible person. Shift like a total jackass”
Basically I’ve never heard of this
@@TheWITE-FOX That power shifting is better? That means people around you give proper use to their car. If you mean my joke well is the same.
@@ElTrolldeYoutubii I mean I’ve never heard of power shifting and I like your comment
You should keep the foot on your gas, during shifting, but you must regulate it to keep the RPM same. Then you dont even notice that transition shock 😊its easy and comfortable
Yeah idk why he didn't mention that? Like ofc keeping the foot completely on the gas and running the rpm into the 7000+ will destroy the flywheel
The 2004 Fabia is going to love this little experiment
To be fair, it's a tank hahaha
(If I ever own a car, it'll be an early 2000s skoda)
@@snjert8406 The front windows stopped working, the driver’s seatbelt doesn’t retract and it strated growing moss
But it withstood my driving.
@@Ballin4Vengeance hell yeah. Amazing cars. Plus, the chassis are zinc coated, so they don’t have massive rust problems!
“Don’t shift like a noob”
Sounds like something a Honda civic owner would say at 3AM
Best thing about fast n' furious, is that it convinces me that my japo eco box beater is a race car.
Probably shouldn't take people seriously who use the word "noob"
Whilst walking home coos his crappy trans"couldnt take it"
In low power cars where there is no risk of loosing traction, power shifting is valid way to get you out of trouble. For example if you miscalculate overtaking distance.
How would they know? Shifting from Park to Drive isn’t shifting.
My old diesel needs to be power shifted or else you'll lose all momentum up a hill. Fortunately it doesn't rev much between gears lol.
Probably because of the huge flywheel haha
Power shifting you let off the gas a little and drop your revs to do it right
Just lug it
@dj jay sky yeah I drop the revs by about 700rpm and it usually snaps into gear near instantly. I can shift it without the clutch too I but the clutch is a job I can and have done at home but a gearbox rebuild is expensive. It's a heavy duty off road clutch with a heavy flywheel and the stock one lasted almost 300 000Ks (about 180 000ish miles).
@snjert I replaced the flywheel with a 20ish KG single mass flywheel and heavy duty off road clutch lol. The clutch is the cheapest and easiest thing to replace if broken by hard driving I find not power shifting causes way more clutch shudder than keeping my foot on the go pedal.
That looks like a stooker. That is an excellent shifter. I never power shift on my manual. But dual-clutch is the way to go. I do miss double clutching with the introduction of synchros, although I still do it.
Some motorcycle owners install a switch that cuts the ignition when you stomp a gear, for similar reasons. On my dirt bikes, if I'm climbing or really hauling ass, I just stomp the gear without clutching or letting off. They survived years of that.
I definitely believe you, but having worked on both I can say the mechanisms DO the same thing, but ARE not exactly the same machine design and the forces are a ⅕ of in a car because the weight is so low. Much of the shock load is from momentum/inertia too because the wheels are still turning.
2 stroke dirtbikes that are older not so much as the coils are unlimited. But on 4 strokes and modern most bikes made since 1980 you can do the same thing by preloading the shift lever well in advance. As you climb up to recline you increase pressure on the shifter and once you bang limiter you pop into the next gear. Done that dragracing my xv1100 tons of times.
If you told me 15 years ago that one of the last manual transmission cars you could buy was a Cadillac I'd call you insane.
It will probably be a Suzuki built in India in 2065.
BMW still makes Manuals, Kia does too. Koenigsegg recently made a Manual+Automatic car. And there's still plenty of other cars out there that are manual
Nissan z hyundai elantra N come in manuals too
@@semi.gKoenigsegg light speed transmission is an automatic that also has a pretty good manual emulator. It is not a manual.
@@johnhunter7244 I know it's not a true manual, but as you said, it emulates a manual pretty well and it's fcking cool !
Granny shifting, not double-clutching like you should
Double clutching is only needed in gearboxes with bad or no snychros
Every car I've ever driven had synchronizers. I just waited for the rpm to drop enough that the gear would fall in with little effort. Is that not enough, even with hard driving? Or are you talking about cars without synchronizers?
Double clutching? U wot m8?
Now you and the mad scientist are gonna have to rip the block apart to replace the piston rings you fried.
Family!
Key hack for new drivers: When you start your car and you wanna take over someone start on 6th gear immediately for extra power on launch
I drive all sorts of cars for nearly 2 decades and what I do is rev match with the gas pedal. After few minutes of driving I know what the ideal range is and whenever I up or downshift I keep my foot for the gas pedal down just a bit. It costs a bit more gas but the car is happy, no engine or transmission issues.
You only need to tap the clutch, not fully disengage it.
It really helps if it's not your car as well.
My boss had a diesel Renault that loved flat shifting, it also needed new engine mounts every year.
Every work van I've ever been given to drive was like that.....!
"Not my clutch?
NOT MY PROBLEM !!!! "
You legend 🤣😂
Evil af XD
Work van crunches in 4th gear, not my problem im not double clutching to stop it🤣
Suddenly I understand those "How is my driving?" stickers a LOT better...
Real men don’t need clutches to shift, just exceptional timing
My man know his car
Wars are best left to the pros, but unfortunately the world is full of rank amateurs.
Actually my dad did this with old soviet trucks back in the days. He was a truck driver in his early 20s in the Eastern Block
Floating gears isn't hard
It shortens the life of synchronizers by not using the clutch. BTW it's not that difficult to shift without the clutch.
Thank you. I'm teaching my 15 yr old son to drive a stick shift. I got him a Suburb Cross trek also because of your influence. Thank you again.
Porsche 991.2 GT3 manual allows power shifting. It’s very odd to get used to. Porsche has it worked out. Between shifts the revs stay flat. I rarely use it unless I think about it.
I also have a gt3
My cars 23 years old. At this point the transmission is crunchier than a bag of expired Fritos
I have a 2012 Jeep and i can physically hear the gears lock into place in first 😂😂😂
buy some burritos
It is literally older than me 😂
usually they get chewier, not crunchier.
But basically that is environmentally friendly.. no new car after three years..
Your local mechanic who’s being put out of business by EVs:
“Please shift like a n00b!”
Uh... You think electric cars dont need maintenance? LOL.
@@PeterAnglesyeah cuz electric cars aren’t as good or reliable as ice’s yet. I’m interested to see how good they’ll be in 5-10 years or if I’ll be driving my 2011 accord til I die 😂
I'm an auto tech student and my teacher says that ev's aren't going to be viable until we get a new battery tech because there simply ain't enough raw material to sustainably construct those batteries, let alone replace them after 10-12 years. It's just not economically viable either.
@@gamechip06 i agree
@@PeterAngles Yeah, if it happened overnight. But EV ownership rises gradually, as such the load on the grid rises gradually and because of that grid capacity rises gradually, so when US will have those 25% EV it won't even register.
Great video but please make more of ones to enlighten people. I stumbled upon someone complaining in your comment section about loosing job and seeking for help. Having multiple income sources is very crucial to financial growth.
Ideal words. Investments have always been the best alternative; having multiple investments increases your benefits and provides you with other revenue streams.
I realized the benefits of investing. My source of income had previously been my job. But I lost my job when the pandemic started and I had to live with the little I had in my savings which really affected my plans.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. For the past four years, my income has never been dependent on any firm or work place, because I chose to invest and the more money I get the more I seek for new investment opportunities.
Unfortunately having a job doesn't mean security. So I really appreciate John Joseph's transparency and help on my trades.
I came across this name John Joseph when I was really looking to start up some investments. But I wasn't given much information about him.
The end vehicle was a Cadillac but was that an ap2 Honda s2000 at the beginning, I have a blue s2000 and it is so much fun to drive.
I used to power shift a lot with my beater micra when I tried to kill it. Other times I just didn't use the clutch at all, just rev matched and let the engine stall when coming to a red light, then used the starter to get going again..
It eventually went to the scrapyard after the inspector pushed the floormat to the ground through the floor. May she rust in peace.
Shifting with no clutch is no big deal. I can shift with no clutch all day. Just need to find the correct rpm for your car. Usually around 2k rpm
Tell us you lie without telling us you lie..
Why were you trying to kill it? Seems like a waste if you weren’t even going to make money off the scrap
@@iowasucks9494too much hassle to sell a shitbox for not enough money
@@TungstenCarbideProjectilecan confirm accidentally did that once going from first to second and was so lucky to get it just right
The energy just goes out the exhaust, amazing
Turbo lag reduction is a thing
@@JohnWiku true. I never heard someone put it that way is all. He's right. I'd say most of the energy going out the exhaust is heat, but I get what he was saying.
Excellent presentation 👏
Yeah my 2006 mustang 4.0 5 speed is going to love this
Cadillac has finally impressed me with something this random but useful.
Edit: Please stop commenting, "X company made this before Cadillac." I know this. I simply stated that Cadillac has finally impressed me because I detest Cadillac. Also, thank you for all the likes and realize that this is simply my opinion, and i respect anyone who enjoys Cadillac.
The cobalt SS have the no lift shift feature too.
Cadillac and Corvette are always first to get get the newest innovations that GM creates. Then, it trickles down to the more affordable cars in the line up.
@@TurboGTO288 yea GM is an innovative company but not the most innovative
@@TurboGTO288 that's why ameeicans are are unreliable lmao. They come up with shir without testing
Camaro has it too
It would be really cool if someone designed a transmission that could hold torque while shifting, perhaps something with two clutches? That would be cool.
clutches? nice joke, ever heard of cvt?
@@hackleberrym My "CVT" has no belt, pulleys, or torque converter. Also, nearly 260 lb-ft of torque at 0 rpm.
@@aspecreviews yup you're right, electric is even better
Hmm great idea! A dual clutch transmission if you will.
Many cars have a twin clutch system where the next gear is always ready.
So nothing new with dual clutch gearbox
My 1999 mazda b2500 is gonna love this
I was doing that over 50 years ago,won a lot of races that way. Timing is the key, when to shift in concert with the clutch, for that microsecond that they will mesh. It takes practice, I did this long before you had electronics to help you.
The best way to shift at 3AM in a residential area
In a SOHC Honda Civic with fart can exhaust.
😂
@@unvaxxeddoomerlife6788 vtec fluid yo! weed wacker ricer days! baaannnnn baannnnn!
@@unvaxxeddoomerlife6788 and anti-lag for the fireworks 🎆🎇
its bad for peoples health to deprive of sleep so be quiet you child
Power shifting is something I keep solely in video games.
Like your Profile..!
@@electrovintinca Us savoury snacks gotta stick together.
Good knowledge.
When I was a kid one of my cars in my arsenal was a beautiful 93 VW fox Wolfsburg 5spd which I feel is one of the greatest cars ever built, anyway. I had came up with an Idea for a launch control which consisted of a switch that went to my clutch pedal that tied into my adjustable shift light in my tach that cut signal to ignition.
The voice of Optimus Prime once said, "be strong enough to be gentle." When working with any machine, I keep that in mind. It can rip itself apart, so learn what it needs, use the lightest touch possible for it, and it'll do whatever you want. The bigger the machine, the more true this becomes.
Yep, you're the softest thing in the room.
Once your clutch is a bit shaven Powershifting is super smooth, trust me bro
lmao
Right. Just gotta break it in and it’s fine
Lmao .
I've been driving manual for over a decade and didn't even think once to do something like this.
That Cadillac looks so cool
Yes power shifting is hard on the clutch and shocks the driveline, but it keeps the engine and turbo spooled up and some of that screaming engine energy also gets dumped into the driveline, further accelerating you when you dump the clutch.
If you want the fastest 1/4 mile times, want the quickest acceleration or want to beat your buddy driving an identical car, then power shifting will get you there.
The downside is you'll be replacing clutches and rebuilding the gearbox and driveline components far more often (but many will argue that's the price you pay for racing).
Best practices regarding racing and parts longevity being totally at odds of course.
I personally think that this short is ment to teach about street/lighter track driving and taking care about your car. A drag project is just something you know will explode eventually, so there's almost no point in being gentle with it, just replace parts as needed to keep it running.
@@Ferrari255GTO yes, it's for the poser with a wallet that likes to pretend race.
@@asherdie username checks out...
@@redbluesome2829 Endurance racing is probably the only one where longevity and racing are together.
With the sticks I've had, I'd take my foot off the gas when pressing the clutch, but I wouldn't completely release the gas. I'd ease up just enough where the engine RPMs were close to matching up with the next gear. Or, giving it enough gas to rev slightly on a down shift. The general rule I followed was to try to match engine RPM to the needed RPM for the gear I was shifting to. That produced the smoothest shifts, which seemed to be the best way to extend engine and transmission life.
I’ve experienced this, and gotta say that’s the best way to drive, ‘Cause now the vehicle would drive like an automatic transmission 😊
If you do that properly, you don’t even need to use the clutch. Thats how you shift in most tractor trailers. You only use the clutch when you stop and take off. Beside that, rev match to the next gear and send it. You can do it with smaller vehicles too but just a little harder to do and get used to.
I've never owned a car with a light enough flywheel to drop enough RPMs to match when shifting. They drop enough to keep it smooth but not enough to truly match.
My 2005 stick shift Kia Rio had no tachometer had to do it all by sound. That being said I feel like this guy in the video was shifting extremely slow. Also I could get my FWD Rio to drift and burn out from 1st gear through second gear and chirp going into 3rd. Good times 👍
Except it's faster. Or maybe my automatic is just slow. It Akes like 0.5 seconds of no power per shift.
Me with a sequential "I have no such weakness"
Rev matching is very important
The abusive stuff I see people do with their cars! I have a rare Mercedes Cosworth that I use for the track, I’m not saying I don’t run it hard, but I’m respectful to the machine. No dumping the clutch for burnouts, no doing donuts, and certainly no power shifts. If you want your stuff to last, treat it with respect. Treat it like it’s a sentient being, and it will love you back.
Sad part it people don’t even treat other people or animals with respect either..
@@ComposerKuandohan u should of said " how do you expect ppl to respect their cars when ppl don't even respect others, animals or themselves"
It’s disrespectful to drive a race car like a grandma…
If your doing damage your doing it wrong.
Used to do this sometimes with my 55hp VW Fox when going onto the Autobahn, gotta take any acceleration i could get!
I love my Blackwing! Too scared to try no-lift shift on any public road 😅
If your rpms increase while power shifting, you just aren't doing it fast enough
You’ve never driven a car have you?
@@710ladd you've never heard of a joke have you?
@@710ladd you shift slow dont you
I find it funny that every one is dissing each other in this comment thread.😀
That's correct ... if done right, it doesn't break anything ... not great for the parts, but if you wanna go fast, learn to do it right. Sounds like most people on here can't do it.
I am going to chirp the tires on second gear every time if I want to!
Your transmission hates you hahahaha
@@snjert8406 transmission, tyres, hubs, driveshafts/halfshafts, ect.
I had a mustang svt cobra that would do that simply by properly downshifting from third or fourth to second gear and then stomping the gas once the clutch was safely and properly re-engaged, unless you were going over forty, in which case it would just throw the whole back end out and go squirrelly until you let up on the gas or until you spun out.
... I got extremely good at keeping the frontend pointing forward and righting spin outs while driving that car. I have an almost supernatural muscle memory reflex now for turning out of spins on ice and snow now. I don't even know I'm doing it half the time, if the car loses traction it just happens. If I fishtail most of the time it only takes a short quick counter steer and lifting my foot off the gas, and I just don't even realize it when it happens unless a passenger freaks out or something, anymore.
My work dumptruck can start rolling in 3rd... "I think she's cold... Oh that wasn't 1st"
Taking a turn in first and losing too much speed but still commiting to 2nd gear. Whoops, the glovebox slammed open again
In a drag or a close pursuit, quick power shifting provides an extra forward thrust with each gear change, which loads and damages the clutch less than downshifting without hitting the gaz (without synchronizing the engine and the gearbox): in the first case, the clutch friction is reducing the engine rotation, in the second case it’s increasing it.
my neighbors son always shift like that , redline just in gear one , i love my life
Hang on, anti-lag systems are legal on street cars now?
Heck yeah! There's a few cars out there that do it. Veloster N bap bap bap!
@@EngineeringExplained
Try telling the coo your velostar N bap bap bap is street legal. 😂
@@EngineeringExplained Weird, would have thought that this ruins the emissions but I guess testing is done in eco mode or "omg, I'm being emissions tested right now, let's maximise full combustion for a few minutes" mode.
@@Hamachingo taking a page out of VW's book
been legal. my 2010 cobalt ss came with it
If you know how much RPM a car needs to shift you can shift without a clutch! Just Ram it into the next gear without damaging it!
@@charleshartlaub3725 europe, my fren, europe
without damaging it lmao
clutchless shifting is pretty cool tho ngl
Man's using the deep magic
Thats speed shifting
I ONLY use clutch when taking off I've just gotten used to it over time been driving this way my whole life
I might be crazy but I love those Caddy V cars.
I love this information! *smoking Honda civic with 12 foot wide Folgers coffee can for an exhaust tip*
English driving instructors will scream at you if you even attempt that. Getting out of gear just gives a nasty reving noise if you leave power on.
Nearly every 1970s and 1980s American father will yell and probably take his keys back and ground you and make you pay for the dropped transmission out of your allowance or lawn mowing money.
......POWER SHIFTING JUST KILLING GEARBOX....KILLING.....
........SO THAT WAS THE STIPIDEST ADVISE EVER
@@PhilLesh69 it's one way to kill a clutch, it's a shame Americans fell out of love with manuals but yeah our instructors will just scream at you until you learn. Minimum 40 hours of lessons and you usually fail the first time, safest drivers statistically pass 2nd or third time. Drove an automatic in America, just wanted to fall asleep all the time cross country.
That's why English racers don't win ...
@@PhilLesh69 Like it shoud be
Don't tell me how to wreck my transmission, I'm a god damn a adult
lol because american dont know how to use manual gear, they have to builds car for fix this AHAHHA
Damn right😂😂😂
"a adult"
Thought adults knew when you use A and the word after starts with a vowel it’s properly replaced as AN
Exactly, I know how to mess it up myself he doesn’t need to tell me. Who does he think he is?
I knew of cars that ignore throttle input when you pushed the pedal lightly and shift gears. Pretty convinient
Back when I had two old trucks, I liked to shift without the clutch. Just feather the gas pedal right, and shifting is easy even on a crash box with no syncros.
just swap clutch plates every month, it feels cool it must be right
Rev matching on the up shift is just as important as rev matching on the downshift. You see too many people banging the clutch up and wonder why it needs a flywheel and clutch every 10k miles
Exactly this.
If I go from 4th gear to 3rd... The RPM will naturally go up...
But.....if.... When the clutch is pressed...I Rev it up a little bit so that it matches the RPM of that gear...is that okay?
That's Rev matching right?
@@pathania3377 that’s what you are meant to do. Not only does it take the stress and shock out the clutch from engaging the flywheel at different speeds it also helps wait transfer as well.
@@pathania3377 but downshifting without “blipping the throttle” to match the rev a you can still downshift with just brining the clutch up slowly to match revvs. The issue lies when you get clowns that bang the clutch up when changing gears. All this will do is transfer massive amounts of shock through the clutch and flywheel and cause serious damage. Especially with cars having dual mass flywheels they are a weak point even when driving round town
@@RosskoPeeko rev matching is ment to make your clutch last longer, it's not necesary and mostly car people do it because we care about our cars and want that budget for our projects rather than maintenance. It's a small detail but if mastered you can make a clutch last twice as long
love that S2K :)
My 2 litre turbo camaro has no lift shift too and it's awesome
I always thought power shifting was shifting without the clutch but still modulating the throttle. Never lifting your foot off the throttle but using the clutch I thought was flat foot shifting.
There is a few names for it. WOT shifting is another. I call it flat foot shifting myself. But, flat foot shifting, WOT shifting, power shifting all mean the same thing.
My 6 speed Subaru is on almost 140k miles, original engine, clutch and gearbox. If you can drive a car properly you wont need to replace expensive parts
I sold my 5 speed subie with 280k all original everything
@@megamiteexplosion indeed, mine is just worn in
*Laughs in 500k mile DSM* I miss that car and Audi 5000 the most.
That's it? My Ford explorer has 248k
324K miles on my GMC Sonoma, and about 110K into the second clutch. I usually just barely ease up on the gas pedal to get that 1000rpm drop by the time I let the clutch back out.
Technically I could still be on the first clutch, but it was making the occasional dust/glaze noise and the hydraulics broke so I just had the shop throw in a fresh pack and clean things up a bit.
I remember trying it once, and when the spike occured, my guts outright screamed at me that it wasn't a good thing to do. It's like that hunch you get where you get a sense that something wasn't supposed to be used that way.
I always watch video like this and think, "oh no, have I been doing that", then they explain the term and I go "oh god, people do that!?"
"Breath" the throttle for a moment on shifts...your clutch, transmission, and wallet will thank you...
For all the manual cars I’ve had, I wished the engine RPM would drop faster so I could smoothly shift faster. I suppose that’s partly what a lighter flywheel is for.
I used to power shift 3-4 in my s2000 and it definitely loved it lol
Me using a sort of power shifting with my old car from 2003
love the s2k
New here, I looooove manual transmissions and I hate that they are going away in the states 😢
Please continue power-shifting everybody. I’d love the routine clutch jobs coming to my shop 😂
You don't have a shop and you know it
@@XH1927 That’s crazy cuz I’m standing inside it right now
@XH1927 shut up kid you'll never own a shop.
@@XH1927 do you know him?
@@XH1927 this you - 🤡
Oh, that clutch! 😬
I got so good with my integra b18 I could shift from second on up no clutch by listening to the frequency of the engine by ear all with no grindage
I’ve got flat foot shifting in my ST. It really does make a difference
If you keep a steady rpm, you can do it fine. On big trucks, I've seen people who were so used to diving them, they could shift without even using the clutch. Apparently, there's a sweet spot in the rpm where it'll just slide in and out.
Clutchless shifting. Usually easier to do on bikes. But sometimes I accidentally shift up without engaging the clutch.
My gf flipped when I did this in her car, thought the clutch was gone
The sprockets to shaft couplings in trucks gearboxes have a different construction than the ones in the cars manual gearboxes. Powershifting on regular manual gearbox cars is the best way to prematurely wear out or destroy the clutch and even the gears.
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always thought that the shifting in fast and furious was goofy but now i understand why they always do it when they shift.
There are aftermarket ecu's that allow flat shifting. You keep it pinned, when the clutch switch engages the computer lowers the rev limiter to whatever rpm you set and then goes away once the clutch is released.
@DriftNick for a sequential shifter yes. A lot of high performance bikes have them from the factory too. That cuts ignition for a few milliseconds to unload the transmission and allow the shifter to change gears. That works off a pressure switch on the shifter. The system I'm talking about, you actually set a target rpm for when the clutch is disengaged. It can cut fuel, ignition or both. Fuel cut cost me a motor one time though when it went lean under boost so I only use ignition cut now.
The only time I’ve seen someone properly power shift was when F1 cars still hand manual transmissions, however those guys were slamming the shifter into each gear incredibly fast ( less than half a second ) but they’d only do it in qualifying because it destroyed their gearboxes, it’s almost always more efficient just to quickly upshift normally, easier on the gearbox and would usually take the same amount of time anyways. It’s not worth it unless you’re chasing a tenth on the track
yeah i shift so fast it is almost like i never actually shifted in the first place gear box is "lose" enough to not know the difference and the engine trans doesn't react fast enough for it to matter lol. no speed lost it really weird everyone that rides with me ask if i even press the clutch it so smooth half the time they don't even know its a manual lol.
@@userunknown1030 lol, you probably only have 3 gears out of your 6 left.
@@tarkitarker0815 yeah probably still gets the job done though lol.
It was called full noise shift here in NZ. I did it in a work vehicle, it damaged the manual transmission.
Glad i got no lift Shift in the ZL1 so were good there
Now it's interesting because I had to learn how to power shift, to keep one of my work's trucks from stalling on a hill. Granted you are still lower the rpm from 2100 to about 1500; but it's difficult to find the gear again, when you miss the mark.
Also you save lots of wear-and-tear on the clutch by float shifting instead of clutch shifting. There are a few automatic transmissions that are based entirely on float shifting.
Isn’t it better to stay in the lower gear until you are up the hill?
@@batman3698 it's better to not shift in general, when you are on a hill. If you can shift into a lower gear, do it at the base of a hill. But If you take the hill at speed, then there is no getting around having to shift, when you halfway up it. Now this one hill, coming out of a pit, is steep enough that if you stop on the hill, you'll never get going again; even trying to take off from low 1, which is a granny gear.
The real G's know how to keep the revs just right through a shift. Powershifts are for idiots
It kinda makes sense to counter turbo lag.
Have my flat foot shifting in my mazdaspeed3 @ 4800. Its so much fun lol
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Concise and straight to the point, love this
Remember kids, only power shift if your car had sequential gearbox
Or it's a hire car 😂
no, most tuning software has an option cut ignition when clutch is pushed in for you to NLTS or “power shift”
Downshifting with rpm matching is fun though
If you know your car perfectly, it feels smoother to match the rpm yourself, especially if you drive a shitterbox with dying synchronisators
Am i the only one that flenched when the clutch was pushed while the gas pedal was down lol 😂
when i was learning to drive a manual my dad made it seem like the whole car was gonna explode if i did this 😂🤣
You have to feel the engine and clutch to have a maximum torque. You will tear your clutch smelling burns if you this power shift. Rev matching is very important!
Real tip for those not wanting to race, but have their car last much longer, learn to shift by ear.
If you align the RPM of your wheels, with the RPM of your Engine, the transmission experiences much less load, and therefor lasts much longer.
It's the same method people use to shift without clutch, but I'd still recommend using the clutch
How do you align those rpm's?
@@jumbo_mumbo1441 I think you can't align rpm but you need a zero to negative torque the moment you shift.
I once forgot to clutch when shifting.
@@jumbo_mumbo1441That's a misleading way of saying it. What you want to do for longevity is shift up and down under as little torque load as possible. That is to say, allow the car's acceleration to cease while changing gears. It is also important not to over or under-speed the engine relative to the incoming gear, up or down. Ideally, you want to use the throttle to "match" the revs to put as little shock load on the clutch as possible. This technique is also used to prevent the car from unsettling during hard braking.
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As someone who grew up riding a bicycle, this was basically second nature to me. Shift under too little load, you put strain on the derailleur and the shift just takes longer. Shift under too much load and you can throw chains and break teeth off your gears. Get it just right and everything is smooth.
Clever use of spark delay and keeping the turbo spooled.
That is just so cool though 🎉