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  • This Old House general contractor Tom Silva shows how to warm up a chilly concrete wall. (See below for a shopping list and tools.)
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    Tom helped a homeowner prepare the bare concrete walls in his basement for wallboard. The homeowner wanted to convert his unfinished basement into living space. The first step was to plug the holes in the concrete walls that might let water seep in from outside. To do this, Tom mixed up some hydraulic cement and forced it into the holes. Hydraulic cement expands as it cures, forming a watertight seal. Next, Tom used 2-inch thick foam insulating board to insulate the basement. He applied it to the concrete walls using a special foamboard adhesive. With the foam insulation installed, Tom fastened a wooden "grid" of 1x3 spruce boards over the insulation using masonry "spring spikes." This grid allows wallboard to be fastened with regular drywall screws, and gives an electrician a place to snake wires and install electric boxes for outlets and light switches.
    Shopping List for How to Insulate a Basement:
    - plant mister [amzn.to/2JwKR7N], used to spray water onto the tie-rod [amzn.to/2PZnS6z] holes
    - hydraulic cement [amzn.to/2JxCpW2], for plugging tie-rod holes in concrete wall
    - 2-inch-thick rigid polystyrene [amzn.to/2H830pu], used to insulate wall
    - foam board adhesive [amzn.to/2JwH8an], for adhering foam board to concrete wall
    - 1x3 spruce [amzn.to/2JCmvK1], used to secure foam board and create nailing surfaces for drywall
    - 4-inch-long spring spike [amzn.to/2VeU9HN], secures wood boards to insulated wall
    - 1 5/8-inch drywall screws [amzn.to/2Ykn9ji], used to fasten vertical 1x3s
    Tools for How to Insulate a Basement:
    - masonry hammer [amzn.to/2WArsqf] and center punch [amzn.to/2PY3YIU], used to drive tie rods [amzn.to/2PZnS6z] into concrete wall
    - margin trowel [amzn.to/2J6KCAU], for applying hydraulic cement [amzn.to/2JxCpW2]
    - caulking gun [amzn.to/2Wxkna1], used to apply foam board adhesive [amzn.to/2JwH8an]
    - chalk reel [amzn.to/2WzXyT5], used to snap horizontal lines
    - hammer drill [amzn.to/30bKaXc] and 3/16-inch masonry bit [amzn.to/2JeeZ8H], used to drill holes in concrete walls
    - drill/driver [amzn.to/302tbH0], for fastening vertical 1x3s to horizontal 1x3s [amzn.to/2JCmvK1]
    Tom used Quikrete [www.quikrete.com/] hydraulic cement to plug the holes in the concrete foundation
    Tom used two-inch thick rigid foam insulation on the walls manufactured by Owens Corning Insulation [www.owenscorning.com/en-us]
    Tom used masonry "spring spikes" to attach the 1x3 lumber to the concrete wall manufactured by DeWalt [anchors.dewalt.com/anchors/].
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  • @nathayes123
    @nathayes123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I have been a huge fan of Tom Silva for over 15 years. His knowledge base of all things related to home construction is astounding. I worship the man. This basement project, however, puzzles me. Unless the homeowner specifically requested this wall construction method, I believe this is not the ideal way to finish a basement.
    As a DIYer, I finished my basement a few years back. I also used tongue-and-groove rigid foam insulation (layered with rockwool to increase R-values). There is a clear tape that is specifically made to seal the vertical joints and any seams between adjacent foam panels. This was not used in the video. My understanding is that the air in the room should be completely isolated from the comparatively colder surface of the cement foundation to prevent condensation/mold issues. Drilling all of those holes for the 1x3s through the foam board, and cutting out the foam to accommodate switch and outlet boxes don't help matters. The top and bottom of each panel should also have been sealed with caulking.
    Also, Tom opted to install 1x3s vertically to allow for electrical wiring. Building codes in most jurisdictions require at least 1.25" wiring clearance from the stud edge to prevent perforation by drywall screws or nails. The method Tom employed (using 1x3s) likely results in clearances of only 0.75" since the ROMEX isn't going to lie completely flat against the foam panels. I believe this would fail an electrical inspection.
    Anyway, I used 2x4 framing to finish my basement for many reasons - It isn't that much more work vs using 1x3s, the cavities between studs can accommodate much thicker insulation (my walls have overkill R-30 values), HVAC/plumbing can be better concealed, and the framing can support heavy shelving, if needed. The only negative if I were to do this today is the ridiculous cost of lumber.

    • @hotrodroxie
      @hotrodroxie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MVC!

    • @bleach181
      @bleach181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I have finished alot of basements and we always use 2x4 framing spaced 1/2'' - 1"' from the wall to create an air barrier. Foundation walls are rarely true enough to do it like in this video, I couldn't imagine doing it like in this video..

    • @rrbarti
      @rrbarti 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, Thanks for sharing. I want to finish my basement too.. How do i screw the horizontal frame to the basement floor? Is its concrete what type of screws and equipment should i use to screw the frame to the basement floor? Could you please let me know?

    • @rrbarti
      @rrbarti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nathayes123 : thank you so much for your reply. I really appreciate it.

    • @rl4889
      @rl4889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nat is 100% correct. My only defense for bob is that the home must be in a VERY dry environment.

  • @Bangbangbigelow
    @Bangbangbigelow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    He made measuring and fitting the cutout for that foam board look so simple, guy is legendary

  • @bgjb-r1499
    @bgjb-r1499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tom is a wealth of knowledge. He takes carpentry to another level. Sure there are different methodologies in finishing a basement, most of which are dictated by cost.

  • @MrCutlash
    @MrCutlash 7 ปีที่แล้ว +477

    Run the adhesive vertical so that if water were to get in, it could trickle down. Applying the adhesive horizontal will allow the water to accumulate and mold.

    • @tigger55555
      @tigger55555 7 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      If you got water coming into your basement thur the concrete walls . It doesn't matter which way the adhesive is running because that the least of your problems. Greetings from Cincy Ohio U.S.A.!

    • @backtothebasics6595
      @backtothebasics6595 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      True both points. If a leak is possible it would be best to run down.. but any leak is terrible. Concrete always seems to crack no matter what eventually. From my experiance in a prefab trench factory, so if it was me. I'd rather run every bead of adhesive vertically hoping for the least amount of damage in the long run.. but who builds houses for the long run anymore??

    • @seppoilmarinen8885
      @seppoilmarinen8885 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good idea.

    • @maxipaw-dc5xj
      @maxipaw-dc5xj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You should be doing your own show

    • @meme7591
      @meme7591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@backtothebasics6595 I don't understand what you mean by vertical

  • @robertpatrene2540
    @robertpatrene2540 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tommy is the greatest person for showing how to do it .👏🇺🇸🏡

  • @brutebiz82
    @brutebiz82 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Yeah, I think I'll use 2x4s to construct my basement walls. Seems easier, plus I won't need to create a multitude of holes in my foundation walls as I wood anchoring 1x3 lattice to them.

    • @advantagemarine7305
      @advantagemarine7305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe use impregnated wood on the floor slab to stop it rotting out in case of damp?

    • @turdferguson12
      @turdferguson12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too. I can frame walls way faster than I can drill a billion holes in my concrete walls

    • @turdferguson12
      @turdferguson12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do hate losing 7 inches of floor space but it’s worth it to me

  • @King_TuTT
    @King_TuTT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing! This guy really knows his stuff!!

  • @SenhorRomantico1
    @SenhorRomantico1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I love Tom's explanations. I can just hear him giving advice to his kids. Junior, you want the gray car. The red one will attract too much attention from the police when you are speeding. Speaking of speeding, let's get a move on applying that cement.

    • @mrkennyfernand
      @mrkennyfernand 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol that last part lol lol.

    • @martellm6587
      @martellm6587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ⁰⁴

    • @flyjarrett
      @flyjarrett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sment

    • @negativecreep7963
      @negativecreep7963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually, you want the red car. The gray car blends in more easily with the road, so when that 80 year old is looking both ways before pulling out on to the highway, they'll be less likely to see you coming and pull out right in front of you.

    • @aleksok6803
      @aleksok6803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Junior buy a red car girl wakes up on it to fall for it ....jump up to you right on the go

  • @greggiono8789
    @greggiono8789 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Could watch tom work all day!

  • @Fabulousfreak189
    @Fabulousfreak189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this was made YEARS ago but its helping me SO much now! Thank you so much for this

  • @cywilly5065
    @cywilly5065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Big respect for Tom Silva. That said, 2x2 steel studs avoid so much of this hassle.

  • @poshko41
    @poshko41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That guy looked legit stoked at the end of the video. I’d be too if Tommy helped me frame my basement and all I had to do was drywall.

  • @crapper1
    @crapper1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    People who hate styrofoam noise will find this episode to be the best one ever made

  • @ducamealy5856
    @ducamealy5856 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After watching this video, I now understand the explanations about retrofitting the house for earthquakes.

  • @jakobporterz3211
    @jakobporterz3211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is how I finished my basement. This method worked great.

  • @julyseng5653
    @julyseng5653 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best contractor and the best show.

  • @ronlovell5374
    @ronlovell5374 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love that foam for basements, but I like to use Delta wall or other types of dimpled water barriers behind it and run it to the floors, even under the walls in dry or wet basements. Having an air gap is extremely important on both sides, especially where basement walls contact the earth.

    • @cjwise7741
      @cjwise7741 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Jeff from Home renovision DIY has a great solution for this. He mounds the adhesive on the back and gently pushes the foam board against the wall to leave the air gap behind it. That’s what I plan on doing with my basement.

    • @patty109109
      @patty109109 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cjwise7741 I think if you run vertical beads behind the foam and just push the foam up normally there will be enough of a gap (even if it's very small) to let any extra moisture down. As for delta, if it's a newer house it's going to have the dimpled delta on the exterior of the foundation.

  • @MRrwmac
    @MRrwmac 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video. Learned a few things!

  • @mikemike8087
    @mikemike8087 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make it look so easy when they do this that's from years and years of doing it I get some good tips

  • @danrichards496
    @danrichards496 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have cinder block basement so I dry locked the wall and put a French drain with drainage mat a few feet up the wall then studded about 3/4 inch from the wall clearing the mat. Used a tank of great stuff to fill the gap and covering the blocks and filled the stud with fiberglass in the bathroom. I’m going to do the rest of the basement with foam board to save money. I’d also tape the joints of the board for extra security. I used the closed cell foam to make sure moisture doesn’t get through so I don’t have to tear out the shower. The rest of the basement won’t cost as much if I have to tear it back down.

  • @salvatoresaccoccio2379
    @salvatoresaccoccio2379 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’m surprised at this approach to finishing a basement. Water will always be trapped if front of the foundation ties, sooner rather than later it will fail and water will find its way back in. Tom said it in the beginning that it should have been sealed from the exterior. And some one else made the comment of using 2 x 4 framing which I also agree to instead of drilling into the concrete wall possibly creating more susceptible voids for water penetration.

  • @richdelgzz
    @richdelgzz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    I like the foam insulation but would rather frame out with 2x4s. Drilling into the concrete wall seems to be counterproductive to the water proofing done earlier with cement.

    • @anthonythorp7291
      @anthonythorp7291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's what I was thinking. All that work when 2x4 wall easier/faster.

    • @pat7473
      @pat7473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was going to ask about that.

    • @justinvanamberg7206
      @justinvanamberg7206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Your typical basement wall is 8" thick. The only way to install and secure the wood frame wether it be 1x3 or 2x4 is drilling into the concrete wall and either nailing it like he did, or using tapcons. With the basement wall being 8" thick, them drilling into it 4-5" deep won't effect anything to do with water coming in.

    • @justinvanamberg7206
      @justinvanamberg7206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Also, wether or not you use 1x3 or 2x4, the only difference at this point is how much space your using and cost of wood. All the wood frame is doing is holding up the drywall, it's not for anything structural so there doesn't need to be anything more than enough to hold the ¹/2" drywall up.

    • @anthonythorp7291
      @anthonythorp7291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@justinvanamberg7206 Or you could glue the 2x4 wall to floor and nail the top to joists.

  • @waltkosch
    @waltkosch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish I had Tom at my house. If only for the motivation. 😂 This guy should be in the Man hall of fame.

  • @peterbergeris6510
    @peterbergeris6510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For insulation I started with rockwool r23 in rim joists with fire block foam n sealed gaps.

  • @peterfarrell9187
    @peterfarrell9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tom as a union carpenter the process we used to do this very same job was to use a product called Z furring. Our supplier sold a product made by Clark Dietrich (many others as well) this galvanized steel stud system is installed vertically 24"OC using a powder actuated pin gun to mechanically fasten to block or poured foundations. Foam insulation is glued and held in place by the Z furring channel. difference

    • @astroken573
      @astroken573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I investigated galvanized Z-channel, but realized it would be a huge thermal bridge from the cold concrete wall. Several articles I read confirmed this was no longer allowed where you had to meet any insulation standard.

  • @Leg0z
    @Leg0z 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I feel like Tom and Grady built a pretty good bromance in this episode.

  • @anazermeno3672
    @anazermeno3672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im a huge fan!! love you guys!! thank you so munch for the truth on how to fix this old house🏡😃

  • @DJ_Eostrix
    @DJ_Eostrix 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2023 And this video is still great. Good job.

  • @eberts0604
    @eberts0604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    "I sawr some rust mahks..." Wicked hillahrious!

  • @lazzyrj1
    @lazzyrj1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    New homes are so easy to work on . Try this on a hundred year old concrete in a hundred year old home here in Chicago . Not so easy .

    • @tufaznail
      @tufaznail 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ok Debbie Downer.

    • @flilguy
      @flilguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My dad's cousin had basement was from the 1920s. In 1985 they basically put a new basement under the house. Although in 2020 that may cost way too much! They made the basement taller (deeper) and it looks really nice. They did most of the work themselves.

  • @dennisrasmussen5351
    @dennisrasmussen5351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make it look so easy using tricks of the trade

  • @Subgunman
    @Subgunman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am doing a similar project on my basement, however here in Greece they do not have these special adhesives, just using a low acid silicone adhesive to the concrete. I also use a serrated knife to do my cutting and to make it easier I spray the knife with a dry silicone spray. To do the drywall I just frame out with steel studs and then hang the drywall. Only problem here is that they do not have "new construction" outlet boxes to pre hang for electric. They only have boxes similar to our old construction work electrical boxes. It is a pain in the a-- to run the smurf conduit into the box since there is no clearance in the hole one places in The drywall to mount the box.

  • @Thumbhit1
    @Thumbhit1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Driving the ties thru the waterproofing/damp proofing will mean water will definitely be coming in now.

  • @ronblake6828
    @ronblake6828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When i finished our basement., I added a cork into each hle , then used the hydraulic cement.

    • @polarlab113
      @polarlab113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you put sealant on the cork?there is specialty foam rod for that use.it works great.I use it around window installs and then follow that with sealant or expanding foam

  • @dangerdavefreestyle
    @dangerdavefreestyle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man, this guy is so good

  • @arthurdduda8233
    @arthurdduda8233 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this old house one of the best tv. shows ever.

  • @jvmez9557
    @jvmez9557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:15..so satisfying to watch

  • @zebra5591
    @zebra5591 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember waking up early when I was a little kid to watch this show

    • @egayetsk
      @egayetsk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Motor rider me too- but more Norm Abram than Tom

  • @Frank_Finance
    @Frank_Finance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this! I need to do this to my basement.

  • @JayHeff
    @JayHeff ปีที่แล้ว

    Simple and effective, thanks!

  • @df56gh4d5h
    @df56gh4d5h 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I wish Tom was my next door neighbor.

  • @mikez4132
    @mikez4132 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just did a 2,800 sq ft basement with 2in Kingspan panels tight to the block with the seams taped. A 2x4 wall around the entire perimeter pressing the panels in place. All rim joist ends blocked with the same panels cut to fit between floor joists and then sealed with spray foam. The basement, a full bath, tv room, bar, and two bedrooms are a constant temp and very comfortable. The area heats or cools with nearly no effort. Take the time and do it right if you are going to make the investment at all.

    • @falsealarmno
      @falsealarmno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You used 2×4 studs to press the foam panels against the basement wall? Many basement walls bow and are not even. So how did your panels line up butted against each other at the seams?

    • @mikez4132
      @mikez4132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@falsealarmno panels were glued to the wall as well. New construction. No bows. If there is a bow you just add a shim where the gap behind the stud is. No issue. If the wall is severely bowed that is more of an issue for repair then adding insulation.

  • @irvingg.1437
    @irvingg.1437 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked at a 300 unit apartment and we use to get a lot of rod hole leaks. Best and cheapest way to plug them, silicone caulk with a cork.

  • @JohnBrown-du4dt
    @JohnBrown-du4dt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That guy’s my hero !

  • @Greyshot
    @Greyshot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    **Very important for anyone using this method to insulate their basement walls. If you do not completely seal the top of the foam board to the concrete wall (use can spray foam), there is a very good chance you will get moisture that rises up and seeps out at the top of the foam board, even if you have dry walls. Batt insulation in your ceiling will allow this moisture to pass through then the moisture will get trapped between the subfloor/rim joist and the insulation. Rot will begin and you'll never know it until it's too late. Don't ask me how I know.

    • @Greyshot
      @Greyshot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaniellaTousson I'm not familiar with that product but don't think it could hurt anything. I'd still make sure the top of the foam board is completely sealed to the wall.

    • @22kmclaren
      @22kmclaren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ​@@DaniellaTousson, I'm a capable DIYer, not a pro, so take this with a grain of salt. Bats in the rim joist void was the recommended best practice years ago. Now folks have realized it causes mold.
      I've been watching a bunch of YT vids ahead of finishing my basement. Modern guidance I have seen is from Concord Carpenter, and a couple other channels is: Remove the bat insulation in the rim joist and upgrade to rigid foam there as well. (you could also pay a pro for spray foam, but that is not DIY friendly)
      The air permeability through bats allows humidity to move towards the cold inside face of your external sheathing. In cold months, the moisture condenses, and you get mold.
      The new rigid foam should be equal or greater R-value to what you have in the walls above. Use multiple layers if needed to get enough R-value. An important note: cut the rigid foam 1/4 to 1/2 inch smaller than the void in the rim joist you are filling. That extra space gives you room to use canned spray foam and make an airtight seal between the foam and the joists.
      No interior air touching the cold external sheathing should mean no humidity condensing and no mold.

    • @melvin_0bviously
      @melvin_0bviously 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@22kmclaren That’ll work fine! Alternatively, you could order a frothpak of spray foam and not have to cut the rigid into the bays, but you’ve got the principles down.

    • @22kmclaren
      @22kmclaren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@melvin_0bviously, I did not know about that product. Thanks for sharing! For cost savings, I will probably stick to cutting rigid foam in easy to access bays. But I will definitely pick up some frothpak for the tight spaces!

    • @Real_PK
      @Real_PK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I highly recommend spray foaming. I did this when I finished my basement. Cost was about 2x over foam board but honestly it's a drop in the bucket when you look at the overall cost of finishing a basement. The contractor was done in half a day. It would have taken me several weekends of work if I went the foam board route. Get several quotes as I found they vary quite a bit.

  • @longislandbasements
    @longislandbasements 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thats great advice! Rigid insulation is the only way to go for basement applications. Batt insulation is a no no. It acts like a sponge and holds water and moisture where rigid repels water and moisture.

    • @jerrysmith7166
      @jerrysmith7166 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Closed cell spray foam...

    • @aaronbays4
      @aaronbays4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jerrysmith7166 That stuff is awesome but not really DIY friendly. Would be a lot more $$$$ to pay a guy to do it than use that pink styarafoam like in the video.

    • @shimes424
      @shimes424 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jerrysmith7166 even the guys you pay do it wrong all the time. Stuff is deadly if done in thick layers (done quick n lazy)

    • @jerrysmith7166
      @jerrysmith7166 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scott H ...I’ve been spraying it for 16yrs now I personally haven’t had any issues but live heard of very few horror stories

    • @jerrysmith7166
      @jerrysmith7166 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aaron Bays you can buy froth kits relatively cheap and they pretty easy to use.

  • @Diddley-js6lf
    @Diddley-js6lf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice Tom as usual

  • @sam111880
    @sam111880 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice trick with plastic sample area if you get moisture in it you know you may have a problem. If not probably good to go without sealing. This is sort of what i need in this basement i am at.

  • @jonathankerner2094
    @jonathankerner2094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Tom, a question. Instead of affixing the cross pieces with wall "nails", why not build 2 x 4 (or 2X2) walls and stand them up against the insulation securing them to the joists and maybe a few anchors into the concrete floor? This way, you avoid putting holes into the walls - a thing that makes me fear creating water leaks. Pressure treated bottom plate, of course.

    • @trumpisaconfirmedcuck5840
      @trumpisaconfirmedcuck5840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's how I did a room in my basement. I used thinner insulation, covered the concrete (didn't need the to fill in the holes as mine was sealed from the outside wall), then I just built 2x4 walls and pushed them against the concrete or ceiling beam. I did not drill into the ceiling beam. I just attached the walls to the floor (pressure treated bottom as you said) with the double nail method and attached the walls to the joists and to each other.

    • @conscience-commenter
      @conscience-commenter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@trumpisaconfirmedcuck5840 A concrete or stone foundation radiates the cold so choosing a thicker insulation and sealing any cracks minimizes the cold transfer and reduces heating bills .

    • @Chickennss
      @Chickennss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s how I did it. Worked well and allows truing the walls

    • @joshymcdaniel9233
      @joshymcdaniel9233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Trace M buy once cry once my friend with 1x2 u will never get outlets in there if u want to run outlets lights etc’ sometimes paying more makes it easier so it’s done right and u don’t have to re do it’ very min I would use 2x3 for walls and get shallow mount electrical box for outlets etc
      If u want no electrical sure wth toss some 1x2 furring strips on there and screw drywall to it
      I however fear the 1x2 may split easily when nailing/ screwing into concrete

    • @joshymcdaniel9233
      @joshymcdaniel9233 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Trace M I’m aware in the video what they r doing Jonathan asked why not build a wall that’s why I made that comment

  • @jonathasnyder
    @jonathasnyder 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So let me get this straight first you need to wet the cement then lubricate the hole with a mist and finally just push it in the hole. Most excellent video.

  • @joeynowak8499
    @joeynowak8499 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuffff again,,, TOMMY!!!

  • @andresmejia165
    @andresmejia165 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very smart guy thanks for the videos

  • @NatePaddock
    @NatePaddock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So I did this for my basement. Burned out 2 hammer drills (Ryobi) and needed 4 drill bits for the spring spikes. In the end, to install the outlets, you have to cut out all the way to the concrete. So there really is no vapor barrier possible. And those could be entry points for cold air or moisture depending on where you live. Also, the lattice work is not practical for an outside corner. You will end up with two pieces of drywall touching but with no supporting post behind them. Wiring did work well but does require more pitting of the insulation.

    • @ToolDeals
      @ToolDeals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those Ryobi's will do it every time! I try to tell people, lol.

    • @mays9185
      @mays9185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should of use short boxes

  • @szargos
    @szargos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So, if there was condensation under the plastic, then what? Just apply a sealer?

  • @joemaldonado3
    @joemaldonado3 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    there are few basements in Fla, USA... but the idea is valid for a cement wall layout....

  • @terrydolphin8353
    @terrydolphin8353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been an insulator in New Hampshire / Massachusetts for years, I have never seen this system. Usually standard framing with closed cell spray foam.

    • @ryanfischer6550
      @ryanfischer6550 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Terry Dolphin depends on what energy code provisions are for the space. Up in New Hampshire where you get cold cold ground, spray foam maybe the more cost effective method due to the amount of R value needed. Further south in warmer climates where the frost line is only a few inches, foam board maybe the more economical option.

  • @neckofthewoods24
    @neckofthewoods24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    No way I’d drill all those holes into the foundation walls! Put the foam up and then just build a normal 2x4 wall anchoring the base plate to the slab and the sill plate to the floor joists. Hell now you can even pack in insulation into the 2x4 stud void to build it up even more since ICF homes have 2-3” of foam on the inside and the outside of the basement walls.

    • @lionintu
      @lionintu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. That's what I did in my home in NY

    • @dcq5381
      @dcq5381 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would you need a vapor barrier to finish the install? Such as 6mil plastic acustically sealed before drywall goes up?

    • @neckofthewoods24
      @neckofthewoods24 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ephraim Quinones with EPS foam and taped seams you don’t technically have to. Vapor barrier depends where you live and how you place it.

    • @dcq5381
      @dcq5381 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm upstate NY so winter's are long. I'm pretty sure my partially finished basement walls only have been studded with unfaced fiberglass and finished drywall.

    • @neckofthewoods24
      @neckofthewoods24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ephraim Quinones I see so many different thoughts and builders and code saying how it should be done and again all are different. To me, if you have something up already, remove the dry way and see if it’s wet/dry or mold. If no mold and dry then I’d stick with what works. If no barrier like you say then 2” foam against the block should be fine.

  • @spiderpig641154
    @spiderpig641154 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    5:37 This sound should be used for crowd control

  • @tmoe7382
    @tmoe7382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tom is hands down the best carpenter in America today....he taught Norm everything he knows! Axt him

  • @PackardDog
    @PackardDog 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I finishing our dry basement. framing 2x4 walls, using elevator bolts to elevate the sill 2 inches of the floor to protect from an possible water infiltration. Using a tall baseboard over floating floor tile to fill gap. Basements need to finished with plans that you will have water intrusion. Unless you dont mind throwing money away.

  • @bbtank3000
    @bbtank3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It must've taken them a good 2 hours to drill all those holes. The magic of editing.

  • @oby-1607
    @oby-1607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Some good practices here with the foam insulation and the furring strips installed on the wall. But, you should never drill through your insulation you just installed for the furring strips. Better yet would have been to install a stud wall to attach the drywall. The problem is concrete basement walls are always wet. Some times of the year, wetter than others. Proof of this was in the tracking of the rust from the anchors in the wall. The anchors now embedded in the concrete will become conduits for the moisture in both directions.
    The best solution is the dig up the outer wall. Waterproof the concrete and then insulate from the outside to keep the concrete conditioned. This however was probably not financially practical in this case.

    • @pratwurschtgulasch6662
      @pratwurschtgulasch6662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are absolutely correct. The guy in this video seems like an amateur who doesn't understand moisture in buildings to me.

  • @abajhalghamdi9219
    @abajhalghamdi9219 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are very great .
    every time I learned a lot from .
    thank you very much

  • @10tenman10
    @10tenman10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tommy always makes it look so easy.

  • @JayMedJsn1
    @JayMedJsn1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So they covered the leaking holes but later drilled more holes?

    • @h2s142
      @h2s142 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They didnt drill through the walL

  • @jimc8121
    @jimc8121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have yet to find a video that deals with getting rid of the concrete bumps in the walls covering the rebar ends. Was this concrete slapped on to seal potential water leaks? Or is it somehow concrete that stuck to the rebar when the forms were pulled away? Can I chip it off? Should I chip it off? Should I just put enough pressure on the foamboard to give where the bumps are, conform to the bumpy wall? Should I quit and just build a tiki hut?

  • @Fatboylo1980
    @Fatboylo1980 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The joints in the foam bars should be sealed and I would frame a wall in front of it for 2 reasons. #1 it’s faster and easier. # 2 your following the foundation wall. If the wall is in and out and not perfectly straight you will see it in the drywall and ceiling later. By framing an independent wall, it will keep it straight.

  • @TheIxtab2006
    @TheIxtab2006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will use this insulation first and then will frame with 2 x 4 .

  • @kaybrown5637
    @kaybrown5637 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I did the condensation test twice on my basement walls in two different places. No problems. But I did that in the Winter. Does it really make a difference what time of the year you test for condensation on the basement walls since Winters tend to be drier than Spring or Summer?

    • @Keifsanderson
      @Keifsanderson 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It makes a big difference. That was the first thing I thought about when I saw the "test." In full-season climates, basement humidity drops significantly in the winter when outside ground water freezes. Test in the spring and summer for the worst case scenario.

    • @Joshua79C
      @Joshua79C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many of you folks forget about water pipes (which tend to develop leaks) when doing moisture testing and the best time is during the season of spring and autumn since that is when condensation season starts and ends.

  • @pdogakron1623
    @pdogakron1623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Isn't Formular 250 recommended for the basement wall EXTERIOR and 150 for the interior? Your furring system seems much more complicated than using 2x4 studwalls

  • @brownpride5125
    @brownpride5125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man i was so nervous seeing that guy hitting that with that Mason hammer 🤣🤣🤣

  • @gersonbystronski2198
    @gersonbystronski2198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I would like to know if you have a video showing how to install a wall mount utility tub on this wall?. Thanks

  • @princeodinson3239
    @princeodinson3239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If u cut out some of foam from the foam sheeting on the wall for the electrical box will it not reduce its effectiveness at that spot where the electrical connections are?

    • @wywybulldog3785
      @wywybulldog3785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      such a slight effect you would never notice

  • @alexhatcher8812
    @alexhatcher8812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm assuming that sort of wood layout removes the need for a firebreak?
    Hi from 2019!

    • @smidtwarner
      @smidtwarner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fire breaks are need for balloon framing. There is only 8’ of vertical cavity so there would be no chimney effect requiring a fire break.

  • @markclauss2314
    @markclauss2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy watching Tom Silva in his work...I have a question. The foam board runs vertically covering the entire foundation up into the joist cavity. WHAT ABOUT TERMITE INSPECTIONS IN THE FUTURE ??? An inspector will NOT be able to see the area where the sill plate meets the foundation....Is this a problem ???

  • @CreachterZ
    @CreachterZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tom is a freakin' magician. I bow to his skills.

  • @wolfpack2233
    @wolfpack2233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you use a ram set instead of drilling and hammering the nail in like they did? Would it damage the foam?

    • @tycox8704
      @tycox8704 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A ramjet nailer would rupture soft materials like foam board insulation.

  • @kittiolivier8789
    @kittiolivier8789 9 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Hi, I like this way of framing over the foam board. However, I am concerned that if the concrete wall is not perfectly leveled and bump free under the foam, the foam boards and the wood frame will be warped too. Then, the drywall boards could be warped too. Any feedback based on experience with this technique regarding risk of drywall warping would be greatly appreciated.

    • @wisconsinbush2940
      @wisconsinbush2940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Then you would put a level on the wall and shim the 1x3's so they're all even and it'll not be wavy.

  • @ipeteagles
    @ipeteagles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    rockstar instruction Tom

  • @yosh5634
    @yosh5634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just loved ur videos sir

  • @artelliott
    @artelliott 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How far apart are the spring spikes?

  • @itaintrocketscience
    @itaintrocketscience 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Push it in the hole
    Force it in
    That always works.
    Stops the leaks

  • @331moto
    @331moto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every single 1x3 board I have used has been anything but straight. I can only imagine how wavy the dry wall will look.. why not just build a 2×2 or 2×4 framed wall and anchor it at the bottom and at the top? Drilling holes into the concrete block is just asking for water to find its way in...

  • @yousifhela
    @yousifhela 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video many thanks.

  • @HOTRODRICO
    @HOTRODRICO 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "its starting to get stiff Tom but I can see how you can get it in there... " lmao

  • @exnjute
    @exnjute 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I did my basement(1,500 sg ft) similar to this 5 years ago but I went even further.
    I did the outside walls with the same pink foam boards but used 4x8 panels instead of 2x8....cheaper that way.
    Then I used 1" foam(4x8) glued to the concrete floor.
    Then I taped every seam... walls , floor and floor to wall with Tyvek tape. This creates a thermal envelope.
    Then I shot down 3/4 T&G subflooring(4x8) through the foam into the concrete floor.
    Then I framed standard 2x4 walls inside the foam giving me normal walls to run plumbing and electrical. You only lose 2" in the room doing this but it naturally is more costly, more lumber cost. But it eliminates the need to drill a hundred holes into the foundation walls.
    Then I ran my plumbing and electrical.
    Then I installed conventional 3.5" fiberglass insulation between the studs.
    Rock, mud, prime paint.
    Although I put in heat/ac runs, I probably could have done without it. Basement is nice and warm in winter and rarely need A/C even in 100 degree heat in summer. I think insulating the floor did the trick.

    • @lionintu
      @lionintu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm you have me thinking maybe I'll insulate my floor with 1" 4x8 also. I'm getting 66° passive temps without even installing the roxul r15 between studs (I live in NYC) This winter has been warm since installing 1" Pink Foam all around the walls. But this also includes finding and sealing every gap mainly where the concrete and siding meet.

  • @codygarner2095
    @codygarner2095 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That pink foam is a vapor barrier. Usually a tape on the seams is added but in this case they did not seal these seams between each piece nor did they do so at the top. I think this is because as they mentioned in the first part of the video, the basement is externally sealed.

  • @etiennebolduc838
    @etiennebolduc838 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your video.
    Why did you isolate the wall before the installing the subfloor? I want to isolate my basement but I'm not sure what to do first( wall or floor) .

  • @shawncell1247
    @shawncell1247 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    when you pounded the rebar in you just made the leak worse you fix leaks from the outside or with landscaping

  • @bh9262
    @bh9262 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What happens when the concrete wall shifts with moisture, freezing and thawing over the years. That happened in the last home I owned and the entire door in the only finished room shifted over 1/2 inch. Wouldn't you want to frame a wall and put a barrier between your framed wall and the concrete wall to allow for minor concrete wall movement? Everything always fits as soon after the contractor finishes the work, but years later - settlement occurs.

  • @frasierschuster
    @frasierschuster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:55
    - "Starting to get a little stiff Tom but I can see how you can work it right in there."
    - "yup get it in there. Now mist those holes for me. Oh yeah."
    - Tom's wife listening through the floorboards: 0_0

    • @donmichaelcorbin4417
      @donmichaelcorbin4417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't believe how far down the comments I had to go before finding one that references this! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @hotrodroxie
      @hotrodroxie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s one out there… You missed it

  • @lukem5268
    @lukem5268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:11 “we’ll just cut it out with a hand saw” 😂😂that saw is huge!

  • @djshortsleeve9132
    @djshortsleeve9132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The top of the foundation should also be covered in foamboard.

  • @skyline5354
    @skyline5354 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Supposed to apply the adhesive vertically, not horizontally

    • @polarlab113
      @polarlab113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it doesnt matter

  • @mitchjohnson4714
    @mitchjohnson4714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool. So does carving out insulation for the electrical boxes cause am heat transfer problem? If so, is there like a foam you can fill tie boses with?

  • @confuzler6985
    @confuzler6985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This kind of work will depend greatly on the location.
    I live in a city where code does not allow wires in the wall, EMT pipes are required and the recommended R value is 13.
    just wanted to mention that.

    • @smidtwarner
      @smidtwarner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The code should allow flexible metal conduit. By using 2x4s instead, cost of wood will be similar and running conduit will be same as any other house wall. By adding fiberglass batts between the studs, you now have an R21 wall.

  • @kelleytr
    @kelleytr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It's starting to get a little stiff Tom but I can see how you can work it right in there 😂

    • @greensombrero3641
      @greensombrero3641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      oh man - everyone heard that as loud as thunder

  • @samsngdevice5103
    @samsngdevice5103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:45 Sment.

  • @makingProgressing
    @makingProgressing ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great. Any info. On how to insulate the ceiling in the basement? (I'd like to insulate and paint it but leave the ceiling exposed)

  • @adamnasher944
    @adamnasher944 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job.thank u