Stories Oda Wasn’t Allowed To Draw In One Piece
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For me; Kyros having his wife die in his metal arms, not being able to feel her warmth, while she doesn't know who he is or remember their life together at all.. that has always been a top tier depressing backstory
It kinda reminded me how Ace died without knowing Sabo was alive, and how Sabo didn't know who Ace was until after he was dead.
Sugar's devil fruit is pure evil. I can't even imagine how Kyros must have felt.
It's even more depressing to flip the story, where Scarlet had no clue how she got her baby. She knew there had to be someone, but everytime she tried to remember, it was just her and Rebecca. She ended up dying in the hands of the person she would probably be desperately trying to remember, and still does not recognise any part of it. To her, he is simply rambling things.
Not only that, she died specifically because she forgot Kyros. She cant remember why she would be "hiding" from society, nor the fact that she literally stated she would wait at the shack.
And anytime Scarlet did remember something that Kyros said, as proven later by Rebecca, it was just a random guard that they liked being around.
Man that story reminded me how lucky I can be to live in a world where my gf doesn’t get killed while I’m a toy soldier she can’t remember
@@shauxuhrwilsongrimsugar has the most terrifying power anyone has ever had.
I entirely felt this sadness I mean at least others were able to feel their sadness as a human being but not being able to feel your sadness fully is the biggest punishment you could ever give anyone and that man did not deserve that ever. Honestly I always wanted to hug that man
Big mom eating mother carmel's children and mother carmel herself has to be the darkest backstory of the entirety of one piece
O-toko and the Smiles is way more horrifying
It has to be thatchs story, his death leads to blackbeards darkness
I fully agree
Brook
attack on titan moment
Evidence of the Boa sisters' more twisted past is the way she uses her devil fruit to affect those attracted to her, but she tends to refer to that as men having "wicked thoughts". She equates lust with evil, and the fact that Luffy doesn't show any attraction to her is what actually lets her consider that he could be a good person, despite being a man.
Some victims of sexual abuse make themselves "ugly" after the traumatic experience to diminish the likelihood of being abused again. Boa did the opposite, she would use her beauty to regain control and power and her fruit is a perfect compliment to that.
Besides, Oda always likes to hide meaningful elements in the devil fruits he gives to many of his characters so they reflect something characteristic of them. From Doffy and using threads because he's a puppet master, or Moria being a "shadow of his former self", to Boa who is just another example of that.
@@soulscribe_hYou know what I never put it together that Moria's fruit and his plans with them actually complimented the state he was in in Thriller Bark and that made me appreciate the arc a bit more (and let's be honest if Luffy didn't have the 100 shadows mcguffin on his side the SH would have flat out lost, Moria wasn't a complete pushover either).
@@islandboy9381Another great example is Doflamingo, a puppet master character (ie. A master manipulator using others the further his goals) with literal puppet master powers. Baby 5 who's so obsessed with being useful that she literally becomes a weapon, any weapon you need. One of the most common things amongst most mythologies is some kind of storm/thunder Deity, Thor, Zeus and Susano-o being the most well known. So what better power for an Eminem look a like that thinks he's a God? Not all of them are obvious but some are really on the nose.
Not only she sees people atracted to her as "evil" but she is noticeably inspired by medusa and in the mith medusa was sexually abused by poseidon before she was cursed with the snake hair and turning people to stone.
I had the feeling that the Boa sisters were raped this whole time. It really does make a lot of sense.
Another story that Oda couldn't make is Franky and the abandoned ship, remember he had to do self-surgery to himself literally head-to-toe with whatever he can find. The bloody implication is insane and the untold pain he had to go through, though getting hit by a full-speed sea train might have messed with his nervous system.
There are some fan theories that the reason why he was able to do this was that he was already a cyborg or modified human before that incident related to MADS in some way so maybe we'll get some more backstory about that down the line.
maybe the cola is a replacement for blood.@@olnnn
@@user-wk7jk5of4f There's already a theory that Franky's Cola is somehow related to the Green Blood used to give the Seraphim their powers
I'm telling u end of egghead franky story will fuck us up😊
I like the theory that the abandoned ship Franky found wasn't any random ship, but it was the abandoned ship of the MADS left to drift at sea for years until then.
For Fujitora, I think he probably saw not only the atrocities that the world nobles do on a daily basis but probably countless villages and towns similar to Baby 5’s that’ll do any malicious act just to get by.
I lean on the side that Issho saw atrocities committed by pirates and that is why he joined the marines.
I think he also saw the abuses that the marines committed, and not wanting to see them anymore blinded himself
@@henrypeters5291what if he joined marines to change them because he saw their atrocities
@@henrypeters5291theory disproven. Fujitora didn't join the marines. He was forced into them via a draft. This is canon
@@roronoauchiha69 It is kind of like a Garp situation. He would not join the marines to stop the celestial dragons because he would be directly under the celestial dragons. It kind of makes sense that one of his first moves was abolishing the Shichibukai system.
Fujirora was introduced in Dressrosa, an arc with strong themes of oppression hidden in plain sight where even if you know something wrong is happening you can't say anything. He probably saw so many atrocities committed by the World Government without being able to do anything that the only option other than leaving the Navy was to blind himself.
This sounds likely, but if so I'm not sure why he joined the Marines. He only recently joined the Marines through a draft, but seeing how powerful he is, it seems strange that he allowed himself to join a cause that made him gouge his eyes.
@@Archeides Same reason why Garp remains in the Marines.
The System can be corrupt, but it is the only place they can protect the people, with the other two options being to join the Revolutionaries or become a Pirate, which are both very extreme options
@@Archeides "if i, the strong one were to leave this position it would be given to someone not worthy of it so why dont i abolish this system down...........since i have met such a charming person.....i think its possible" is what i think issho thinks. his way of justice is too much for him to just abandone it
He wasn't in the Marines though, he was drafted by Sengoku, likely right into that admiral position just like Greenbull.
THANK YOU for mentioning the Neptune Brothers’ backstory!
It’s seriously one of the most underrated tragic backstories in the whole series, and yet no one talks about it, much less even seem to remember it!
The fact that Ryuboshi and Manboshi are introduced in the present with these strange and slightly grating speech quirks that get recontextualized with their heartbreaking origin is such an emotional gut punch.
But at the same time, the fact that they have essentially permanently altered their speech mannerisms to continue making their sister’s rather bleak life just a little bit better is just so touching.
I’m permanently endeared to these goofy little mermen dudes and hate the fact that they’re so overlooked.
While I didn’t remember the Neptune brothers, thinking about it now they have one of the top 10 worst backstories that are painful to hear, like I legitimately started to tear up when I heard their backstory again.
I actually didn't know this, guess I skipped few episodes
first time seeing someone call her neptune instead of yowahoshi or shirahosi
i never picked up on baby 5's name the first time around, i thought it was just an odd nickname... thats horrible, i hope sai gives her the confidence to pick an actual name for herself someday
They may not have been disturbing enough to make the list, but the Donquixote pirates definitely have the highest density of sad/disturbing backstories. That's the exact type of person Doflamingo attracts. The broken with a grudge against the world. Kind of the opposite of the Strawhats really who all manage to come out on top eventually instead of staying broken.
Reminds me of how Superheroes and Super Villains are written in comics. They tend to have similar backstories but different results.
Kind of a throwaway line, but there was a particularly dark moment in Doffy's flashback. When the mob was giving all their reasons for hating the Celestial Dragons, one woman told the story of her daughter who was a former slave. She said that her daughter came home after being a slave for years, but was clearly broken emotionally and wouldnt speak of what happened to her. A few days after she came home, she killed herself. Similar to Boa, it doesnt take too much imagination to figure out what the nobles must have done to her.
Like i say, its good the story of One Piece is as colorful and light-hearted as it is, because the world of One Piece is a bleak, horrible place.
So glad you mentioned the Fukaboshi, Ryuboshi, and Manboshi, I said the same thing when I saw that. How sad that was that they weren't even allowed to mourn.
Yeah, that was screwed up. They started trying to appease their sister less than a minute after she died in front of him. Makes them good brothers, no one is denying that, but they still lost their mom.
Audience: why are they saying these goofy things over and over, kind of annoying
Oda: *you don't wanna know*
There's also the part where Doflamingo calls Violet a "passionate" woman, and when Oda was asked about why he said, Oda simply stated that he told the story to one of his assistent and realized it couldn't be told in a shounen manga. Feels like Boa and Violet shared a similar story for quite some time.
yeah doffy used to sexually assault violet
mm, their relation seems a bit more complicated, but a very toxic relationship at the very least. with some stockholm syndrome.
but rape is absolutely unavoidable for Boa Hancock, there's no denying it
You're missing a bit what was said; in that SBS reply, Oda noted "Dressrosa is truly a passionate country!" And in the vivre cards it was stated: Doflamingo and Viola had a "complex" passionate relationship. For Viola, it was a relationship of both love and hate towards Doflamingo, which is the reason she calls him "Doffy".
Seems fairly different than whatever Hancock might've potentially experienced.
@@saadamehdi2848How is it unavoidable? What makes it any more unavoidable for Hancock, than it is for any other slave? Other than her being beautiful, which is hardly evidence.
Sure Celestial dragons are pieces of shit and totally might do something like that, but that doesn't make it canon.
The conventional wisdom among Japanese fans is that Violet's ability is the key.
Doflamingo regularly suffers from PTSD due to past tragedies.
It is unknown whether Violet was assaulted or to infiltrate the Family, but assuming she spent the night with Doflamingo, it is possible that she used the power of the Devil Fruit against Doflamingo.
Therefore, it is possible that Violet became somewhat sympathetic after learning about Doflamingo's suffering.
Also, when Doflamingo compared the relationship between himself and Corazon to the relationship between Violet and Rebecca, it is possible that he felt some kind of feelings for Violet.
It's also possible that Doflamingo was aware that Violet knew about his PTSD.
By all accounts, Dressrosa is complex and passionate.
When Fujitora mentioned why he blinded himself, maybe it was an ironic metaphor for turning a blind eye for the WG atrocities.
Fujitoras scene always gets me. It so perfectly utilizes/highlights our MCs character design. You cant help to start smiling too, and perhaps, maybe even shed a tear out of the onslaught of emotions. Perfectly points out the simplicity of Luffys design against Fujitoras, the complexity of the happenings around them and the cruelty of their backstory.
I like how the concept of the 'danse macabre' in the form of happy deaths are treated in one piece and I would love to see a video with your thoughts about it. Oden, Roger and Hilruk are a few examples of characters who died with a smile on their face. Brook's final moments in life were a music concert with his crew. It's such an interesting recurring theme and I can't get enough of it.
and corazon!
One Piece is the only piece of media that can make me tear up/get emotional over and over again just by the mention of any of the SH's back stories.
It's funny how Oda manages to hide the pain and sadness of these dark and tragic backstories by simply inhabiting them in a goofy ass world like One Piece.
Back when I was a young teen, reading the Sabody Archipelago Arc, the scene of charlos riding his slave horrified me! It was because of that, I learned just how evil and insane slavery really was.
And how widespread and long it lasted in the world. Also how it's still occurring in several parts of the world today.😢
It was a truly painful experience, but it did help me to grow as a person. Maybe that's one of the reasons Oda Sensei had included it in One Piece, so people would realize how bad it really is, and that such things still happen in undeveloped countries today.
I'm pretty sure real life slavery wasn't that cartoonishly evil. Slaves cost money, they were investments - so you'd want to have your investments in somewhat decent shape and upkeep. Not dissimilar to how farm equipment is today, with wholesale replacement being more costly than being celestial dragon levels of abusive.
That's on average. There's still plenty of terrible abuse going on in world today that isn't limited to slavery... but then also human trafficking is still very much kept alive in the black markets by those in power... 😢
@@ChronoSquare it depends. For Europeans it was an investment and they took good care of slaves. Most harsh treatments were for slaves who kept trying to escape or didn't want to work. They didn't want their investment to be killed or run away and wanted more of them to reproduce. English treated their investments well, French and Spanish were harsh rulers.
If your talking about Muslims then they imported like 10 million of them, castrated them so they couldn't breed and it made them more docile, or butchered black children from women. They were treated as disposable and they easily replaced them via the Sahara routes. They did live a life similar to one piece.
If your talking about African slavery then they raided and enslaved entire regions to trade for luxuries and cared nothing about them. Africans of today still joke and celebrate having sold off all the "dumb" ones. Manda Musa which is the richest man to live for that way by depopulating entire regions of people to sell to the muslims. Got some nice weapons and textiles from the Europeans but they didn't buy all that much since Europeans had the Irish.
Wait till you realize that the Egyptian slaves only had to pay 1/5th of their harvest and all modern countries demand at least 40% through all their taxes all over. You are a good little tax slave. You don't even know your enslaved.
@@ChronoSquarein the us children of slaveowners used to bury baby slaves in the ground and kick their heads until they came off for entertainment. a lot of slavery IS cartoonishly evil, its just not talked about as much because people dont like to confront the dark truths of their nations histories.
You say it like it’s in any way over: the Africans and North Africans are both up to their necks in it, Yemen currently has more slaves in it than the best guesses for Italy at the height of the empire and Haitians routinely sell their kids to richer relatives as house slaves and playthings (restavek). Many of the chancers heading to Europe for a “better life/adventure” on the welfare systems there are sold off by the smugglers they pay to get them in.
That’s not even factoring in all the countries (often communist) who’re keeping entire populations as political prisoners doing hard labour.
As for the cartoonish evil, depends on the races and locations, but generally a chattel slave is too valuable for this, whereas if an indentured worker is killed on the job, you don’t have to free them…fate of many an Irish in the south.
God, remembering the absolute 180 shift I had for Boa after she and her sisters recalled their times as slaves, and me remembering that on Sabaody I believe, it was explained that most slaves for World Nobles don’t live for long after
My mind immediately went to child sexual abuse and exploitation and, for the first time, I was disgusted with something in One Piece
And seeing Sandersonia have a way too real PTSD panic after broke me
Now, seeing Boa simp for Luffy despite him being a man, I’m so legitimately happy for her
It's not just that Oda can't show it because of the platform(WSJ), it's also a Choice by him, because whenever he does something like this, merely hinting at atrocities and tragedies, he basically let it be up to the reader's imagination. you can choose to believe the Boa Sisters were... violated repeatedly in those 4 years, but you can also imagine that the Celesetial Dragons saw them as pets and not humans so they just toyed with them in a slightly less horrible ways.
and im happy for that decision, because i personally tend to think of the optimistic outcomes rather than the bad outcomes.
For me it´s the same as adult jokes in kids cartoons. Like you said it´s up for interpretation and a kid probably won´t see the darker implications and can still enjoy the joyful parts of One Piece.
For us pessimists, the Boa Sisters story is just pure horror..
Little girls + Slavery + Most wretched humans, this is black hole level dark.
@@gradesam6306 mental gymnastics are your friends here. Instead of looking at it how you described, you can say something like "they were forced to gladiator fights and showing their DF's like in freak shows".
Thats still horrible, but nearly as much as the other options.
@@steirerbua5322sexual violation is not in option, they (celestial) consider themselves Gods so it is unlikely to touch them intimately.. 😂
@@MrGalRoz tbh when i was reading the manga, i'm glad that oda left it open ended. It made the horror of the situation disturbing without having to go down the berserk route (which is traumatizing)
Another one is Big Mom's relationship with Streusen. To clarify, while it's not stated in the story, it's painfully obvious that Streusen is Perospero's biological father. When you factor in that he knew Linlin since she was a preteen while he was a full grown adult and that Perospero is Big Mom's 1st child, it gets beyond disgusting even if you dont do the math.
What hints do you have that Streusen is Perospero's dad? Because I never even considered that
Can you tell us there ages i don't remmber them
@@lssl1306he does have a resemblance to him when you think of it
@@youngbloodbanana3376 if the theory is right then streusen waited until big mom was 18 cause atm she is 68 and perospero is 50
Streusen is 92 😅
@@tipskylark7021or 17. 9 month are still 9 month
Fujitora's mysterious backstory is made even more horrific by... *everything else in this video.* Because if Oda was willing to reveal all of those other twisted nightmares, how much worse would Fujitora's experiences have to be to get swept under the rug by the narrative? And while the true answer might be that it was too revealing of endgame plot secrets like The Gorosei's mysterious shadow powers to show that early, that explanation can certainly exist *alongside* the idea that the details were so horrifying that even someone willing to reveal accidental cannibalism, multiple years of $@% slavery, and impressionably young kids having to hide in a pile of corpses found a line he couldn't cross.
I remember reading Big Mom's story and remember thinking "oh it's implied that she ate them, but no way that is part of my happy little manga. Right?" It was the moment where I realized all the messed up stories we have in One Piece
Black Beard also got the Tremor Tremor Fruit by eating out White Beard’s liver, so yes cannibalistic pirates do exist in the world of One Piece.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hrI think this is just guessing
@@1001011011010 , there might be more cannibalistic pirates than Black Beard and Big Mom, but as of right now the two definitive cannibalistic pirates 🏴☠️ are Big Mok and Black Beard.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr I have no problem with one piece theories, I think they're fun and all but can we stop believing their cannon its annoying. No where in the manga was it ever stated blackbeard ate whitebeards liver. That is not cannon so stop spreading these false ideas. All we know is blackbeard was next to whitebeard under a dark sheet for x amount of time and came out be able to use his devil fruit powers.
To me one of the harshest flashbacks, which people talk incredibly little about (probably because they wanna forget the character ever existed lol) is Yamato's. Oda didn't make it long at all, but he showed enough to truly disturb anyone paying attention.
Imagine as a child being completely neglected by your only parent because he only respects strength. Watching someone die a gruesome death one day makes you admire him, but that death was provoked by your father, so he mocks and hates you for idolizing him saying in a way, that you'll never be as good as him, his daughter will never be as good as the man he just murdered and cared quite little about. After that, being thrown in a cave to starve and rot, but being helped by the friends of this very man , that should hate you for being Kaido's daughter, and after running away growing up completely alone, because every single friend you make, or every single person that tries to help you dies in front of your eyes, so you're alone because you have to. After all that suffering and hatred towards Kaido, you see the inner child in her when she still believes he wouldn't actually kill her, when Luffy takes her cuffs and they explode, it is a brilliant writing maneuver by Oda to present as a gag something so dark as Yamato still hoping that her father somewhat cares, and having those hopes shattered when she sees that he truly was trying to kill her if she disobeyed.
The flashback is quite short, so Oda didn't hsve the time to flesh out every emotion like he usually does, but imo it's one of the harshest flashbacks in op
This is so true! I'm glad you mentioned this! I thought so too when she was crying about it after the blast, and her serious-angry face afterward. I felt for her :(
One more story I would add is Tom. We never actually saw his death or heard how he died. But considering that Spandam wanted to get Pluton's blueprints from him, he was very likely tortured to death. They can't show that in a shonen.
true
You ended the video on Dressrosa, but you forgot the third disturbing backstory from there: Violet. Imagine watching a tyrant take over your country in a hideously convoluted and disturbing manner, be forced to work with this tyrant, and even sleep with said tyrant. I'm pretty sure her full consent wasn't a factor here.
The one confirmed sexual relationship in the entire story is also incredibly messed-up when you think about it at all.
Damn,she even gone past her Stockholm syndrome for 8 years
I don't agree with this interpretation about Violet. This was Oda's quote about Violet and Doflamingo : "There is a deep secret setting I can't tell you about though. I informed the supervisor about it, but since it is a pretty adult part of the story it remains hidden in the shonen manga which One Piece is. To all adults, please try to imagine yourselves. Dressrosa is truly a passionate country!!". That is a *very* casual way of referring to their adult relationship.
Do you really think Oda would use such a relaxed phrasing if Doflamingo forced / coerced Violet into sex? I don't, personally. You cannot describe sexual coercion as an example of Dressrosa "truly being a passionate country". That would be insanely flippant and not appropriate for such a heavy topic.
Imo what is much more likely is that Violet chose of her own free will to use her charms as a woman to seduce Doflamingo in order to infiltrate his organization and gain information or some kind of advantage over him. So unless Oda confirms otherwise, my interpretation is that Violet is the one who initiated the relationship in order to try to manipulate Doflamingo.
@@MarkHogan994 Even in that very best-case scenario, I can't imagine her being very happy about it.
For Fujitora, i'd like to imagine how a fleet of marines destroyed a civilian village for some pirates, and his own fleet, his friends got caught up within it as well, an Ohara buster call situation perhaps.
or he is forced to kill someone he came to care in the name of "justice", that can be a more personal backstory as well
I believe it will have something to do with a major plot story. If it was something that could exist as a seperate backstory, they probably would have shown it already. I think he was present at God Valley or has seen something done by the world nobles.
What you said reminds me of the backstory of Isuka, the female marine in the Ace novel, where she finds out that the Vice Amiral Draw under who she is working actually killed and burned her entire village because pirates attacked the village in first and she was the only survivor
Oda can make the goofiest characters... Only to reveal their tragic backstories behind their eccentric personalities and moments.
Sr Pink's design used to annoy me back when Dressrosa was still unfolding. Like, "good lord, Oda is known for his wacky designs, but a man dressed as a baby? Ridiculous!" 🙄
But then, he hit us with the back story that recontextualized everything... now I stan for our hardboiled family man. Absolute king. 🥺
@@XorcruptLet's baby
The boa backstory is especially gross if you remember that the celestial dragons are bumbling fools, so feeding two people "snake fruit" to turn them into snake people for entertainment is something I can see them doing, but I just cannot see them feeding their most beautiful slave something called "love fruit" for that reason and actually expecting petrification powers. If a world noble bought a "love fruit" I somehow think that they were expecting a very different effect on the user.
I highly doubt they knew or even cared about what those fruit actually did.
I can see no reason why they would even allow their slaves to be able to use their devil fruit abilities, thats a risk if anything. They probly wear seastone, to make sure they can't use their powers against them.
My guess is they just force fed them those fruit because apparently they taste nasty, and to throw them into a pool or similar and watch them drown for fun.
Being a Marine, Fujitora probably saw a buster call firsthand. He probably saw an entire island of innocent people being wiped out by his compatriots, hearing their screams and cries for help, but being unable to do anything because it was ordered of the Marines. Horrors like that really scar someone, quite literally in Fujitora’s hypothetical case.
I love one piece as it is, but i really do wonder what type of story we would have if Oda was able to truly write whatever he wanted
The most extreme stuff like Boa Hancock’s past as well as Nico Robin’s true past could only be shown in a Seinen manga series hence why most of the stuff is implied offscreen.
It might also be intentional, Oda likely wants to people to have their own interpretations.
Props to you for bringing up Fukaboshi, Ryuboshi, and Manboshi, that certainly is an underrated messed up moment.
The Kurozumi were not hunted BY the Kozuki. It was just random people who hated them for what they did. That's why Orochi states that he has a grudge against ALL of Wano. Because it was everyone... if anything, the Kozuki seemed to be somewhat indifferent to the Kurozumi at worst...
Yes it was whole Wano but the Kurozumi clan tried to steal the power
I still bet that Admiral Aramaki was a former slave of the World Nobles which explains his fanatic devotion to them as gods of the world.
And hidden behind his Marine coat cape is the Hoof of Celestial Dragon on his back.
I dont know, I follow Amercan Politics and he seemns to me like a Commentary about Police Brutality.
@@Sunaki1000 Well a brutal personality often isn't born out of the blue, often it is the result of events in childhood, such as suffering a considerable trauma.
And considering Aramaki's brutality and devotion, he must have had a serious amount of trauma probably mixed with conditioning to end up as it currently is... when one takes all that into account having experienced Slavery, and Celestial Dragon Slavery at that, fits the bill pretty neatly.
@@Sunaki1000 🤣
@@juimymary9951 You watched to many Movies. A Brutal Personality is often born out of unaccountability. A Bully whos Behavior is enabled, or overlooked will allways stay a Bully.
@@Sunaki1000 It still stands to reason that the source may be trauma, and as a matter of fact most people who become bullies start due to the exposure to an unhealthy environment.
I was just talking about the Big Mom thing earlier, and how it's hard to hate or even blame her for the disturbing things she did since she had been manipulated and didn't know what she was doing in that moment. Also, just let it sink in that the Navy that Fujitora dedicated his life to was not the one thing that would give him hope, but rather it was Luffy, a pirate.
Boa slavery goes further than just a mark.
The world nobles most likely prostituted them, at that age.
The episode with koala was one of most emotional moments in the series for me.
The celestial dragon are scum of the earth
Yes in the panel with her backstory u can see that child her was actually naked in that panel. Obviously you can’t see everything but she’s clearly without clothes. 😞
Make sense basicly boa Hancock and her sister been sexual abuse but oda didnt really said that lightly but we can already guess that as a reader. Man i just cant stop smiling that people said one piece is for kids😅
@@axeldave4809 thing is I actually love it when stuff like this is subtlety hidden.
One piece full story depth and world can really be extracted by an adult audience. But young people can also find lots of value in the series
Oden and Fujitora had same type of slippers.I think knowing Oda Fujitora might be from Wano.
Holy shit, what if Fujitora is Kurozumi?
@@kulkuljator it could explain why he blinded himself.Maybe seeing the crimes of his family
I know it probably doesn’t count because it is more of a theory but many believe that in Zoro’s backstory Kuina was meant to kill herself, but Oda wasn’t allowed to write that in a kids manga so he switched it to falling down the stairs.
teens manga*
I mean it might just be something you tell a child to help them deal with grief. I had a friend who died when we were in middle school and they told us that he slipped in the shower, and I'll never know if it's true or not.
But why kill herself ?
@@alexanderguerrero347 Most likely the misogynistic believe that no women allowed to be a swordwomen. She expressed her sadness to Zoro about it especially she is getting older a day before her death.
yes that's an expression to say that someone commited suicide in japan
Another story thats disturbing is Rosinante. Being uprooted from the life you lived only to be abused and mistreated by everyone around you, watching your mother die from sickness, you and your brother forced to eat trash just to survive, almost killed had it not been for your brothers conquerers haki and then watching your brother murder your father.
as for Fujitora, I think he blinded himself in order not to see the faces of the people he helps.
We all know that he is a righteous guy that values helping others more than any Sakazuki-esque justice, so maybe he once served in a war between two nations and everytime he helped someone in the battlefield that someone went and murdered more of his enemies and did bad, very bad things to the opposition, and this happened to Fuji many, many times in his life that he feels that helping people is doing more bad than good.
So the two Fujis in him put the not so lucky real Fuji in a dielemma that tore him apart between wanting to help others and not wanting the ones he helped to go and cause more atrocities, so he came up with a smart yet a stupid Idea of blinding himself so he can help people without knowing who they are when they are in need and he would defeat those same people when they do bad things, it's like a saparation of the two things and treating each case on its own, that way he doesn't loose his mind everytime he sees the person that he helped kill others.
Seeing Fujitora reminds me that there are people still alive that have played Zatoichi. Who could play the future characters in live action once piece based off real people?
The thing about Fujitora blinding himself is that he still seems to loyally follow the World Government (albeit following his own brand of justice). It makes me think that whatever made him blind himself did not have to do with the World Government or its nobles, unless he's planning on backstabbing them. The first relevant thing that can come to mind is God Valley, as he would be old enough to either have served in that fight or possibly lived there during it, leading him to possibly idolize Garp.
fuji is 54 and god valley incident happened 39 years ago so yeah u can be right 👍
Unless fujitora was a citizen of God valley he could not of been there because he wasn't a marine before the timeskip, he was drafted into the marines by fleet admiral sakazuki
@@ronelwynne1410 That's true. Although, that does beg the question as to how or why he was drafted as an Admiral. Either he was drafted and showed such power they had to make him an admiral or they knew about him ahead of time and picked him specifically.
Well in the manga he was shown to purposefully try to hurt the world nobles, so at least he doesn't like them
it's kind of hinted that akainu and fujitora are childhood friends and it fits cause every other admiral is akainu's close friend or greenbull@@legend3454 So, they both saw the same things.
Fujitora must saw that the WG started making NFTs
You know what’s really said about LinLin/Big Mom? Even though her parents abandoned her cause she was just too much to handle, you can see at least in the anime how much her parents were upset with what they were doing and didn’t want to but had to. :/ I really do hope she isn’t dead and comes back for Chopper to cure her of her hunger pains.
I’m assuming whatever Fujitora saw has to do with what pirates did.
i remember this one dream i had where somehow Big Mom is sent back in time and stumbkes into the scene from afar and sees it all play put and realizes what happened
what she DID
i dont remember much, i woke up, but i remember like, close-in shots of her narrowed eyes and all that as it downed on her
LINLIN IS LONG GONE DEEP DOWN THE CRUST OF EARTH 🌏
That internal monologue Fujitora goes on at the end of Dressrosa is one of my favorite moments. Brings tears to my eyes.
As for how Lin Lin got her power by eating caramel. Ive been saying the same thing with Blackbeard and whotbeard. He put a tarp over him after he died , probably cus oda couldn't show him eating white beards brain after his head was blown off by akainu(manga version) the anime only showed his mustache getting hit but what do you guys think?
It’s very much implied that Black Beard ate White Beard’s liver underneath the black tarp hence how he got the power of the Tremor Tremor and Dark Dark Fruits.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr ah I see lol , thank you for your input fellow strawhat member . Im rewatching everything again after so many years so I'll look out for those this time around. 👌
i definitely appreciate Oda's willingness to explore hard and dark themes, Boa Hancock is one HUGE example, there's no shot that she wasnt SA'd, they were kept alive easily because of their beauty, hence Hancock's ego that she can get away with it.
omg Linlin's backstory absolutely shook me to the core when i saw it, she unknowingly cannibalized her fellow orphans and Mother Caramel (deserved far as she goes. . .) in her sugary high. i didnt see that coming and i dont think anyone else did either.
additionally that hints how Blackbeard took Whitebeard's power away, pretty scary notion, but what's scarier is that it doesnt seem like BB is stopping with just his "father" of sorts.
blech, Hogback, that guy was the worst. . . stalker/necrophile. . . gross.
Hordy Jones was the product of Racism for sure, had no reason to go off like he did, but still hated humans because that is the environment they grew up in, while other fishmen hated on the people who wronged them personally or by association that was the milk that Hordy and his group nursed on.
the Kurozumi clan were bad eggs, but they didnt deserve to be hunted down and exterminated by vigiliantes, they might have not tried anything at all after their elder failed to kill the Shogun, but such acts of hatred only bred greater hate into the survivors. just goes to show why vigilante justice is penalized in our world, imagine the hate that could be bred from those taking justice into their own hands.
Baby 5, wow i forgot about her, tbf i didnt know her story due to not reading the manga.
i think he saw both the evils of Piracy AND the World Government, and in seeing nothing but evil around hom, he chose to remove his sight so that he didnt have to see it anymore, quite possibly in knowing that he in no way could do anything about all that evil.
Brook backstory is and will always be the most horrifying story ever told in this manga
And there are Sakazuki and Kuma who we don't know but are definitely sure to have some great dark and sad backstory
Well you're at least half right.
Everyone in One Piece needed therapy but there isn't a shrink qualified enough to deal with their hot mess.
TFS Alucard: "Oh but I am!"
It's easier to count who doesn't have a tragic backstory in the world of One Piece where it's crapsaccharine.
I remember watching the movie "James and the giant peach" and the story was that the main characters parents were "gobbled up" by a random giant rhino.... the word "gobbled up" pretty much assumes that they didn't chew, they just swallowed. So maybe linlin just... gobbled them up?
hell nah not the One Piece vore
Ryuboshi and Mamboshi continue to sing and dance to this day while talking, even when Shirahoshi isn't around. It was introduced as a quirk, but the story behind it is sad, and they still do it for their sister.
I thought Kanjuro was shown as a blob, because at that point of the story, the spy hadn't been revealed yet. It still makes sense in the way you explained it, but I figured it's the same way the five elders monster forms and Im haven't been shown as anything but black blobs...for now.
It definitely works both ways for Kanjuro! I never thought about how his final form looked the same as the “image of him” in the flashback, but a lack of identity has some credence to it.
Yeah Kanjuro as a blob that can be molded to fit any shape. I didn’t catch that when I watched it
To be fair, there is still something more to Big Mom's backstory we don't quite understand. Oda himself said that you can't gain a Devil Fruit power by eating it's previous user. Yet, somehow, after the "incident" on her birthday, she left there with the power of the Soru Soru no mi.
Wait. He did? I don't remember reading that in the SBS.
@@Soitisisit WAY long ago now, someone in sbs asked something along the lines of "could I gain Luffy's power by eating him?" And Oda said no, you can't gain a Devil Fruit power by eating it's user.
@@thefroglord257 Huh. I need to go back through and reread from the beginning apparently as I surely don't remember that at all.
bro, Big Mom ate Mother Carmel, that's a fact. When it comes to how she obtained the fruit I don't know but...
About Fujitora, I think we all assume it was evil pirates etc that caused him to blind himself but what if it was corruption in the Navy/World Government that made him lose his faith in the world and want to join to do his part to change everything. At almost every turn he has actively worked against the Marines/Government, maybe it's just because he wasn't a career officer so he has less ties to the Navy etc. But I think he knows way more than he lets on and that is why he wanted to get rid of the Warlord system.
The fact that the all of Neptune's son, still at present, say the things they said to cheer Shirahoshi as if developing a tic
I think Fuji boy's motto is "Impartial Justice" (not to judge based on appearances or first impressions), and his blindness shows us his commitment to his mission
i could go on & on about the boa sisters & especially, hancock’s, backstories for hours, but all i will say is that whenever i see hancock i just want to give her the biggest hug. i know there are a lot of people in the one piece community that absolutely hate her, but she will forever be one of my favorite characters. she holds such a special place in my heart & i really hope that by the end of the story, she’ll get her happy ending.
Imagine litteraly blinding yourself not to see the atrocities around you just to become a haki powerhouse that can sense them nonetheless.
I remember when I first read Big Mom’s Backstory! Admittedly I was speed reading through Wholecake Island and once I got to the end of her backstory I just stopped. I was like “wait, what?” So I reread it this time, taking my usual time to experience it…
And Oh Boy I just thought I was the only one who thought she… did that… I mean there’s some messed up stuff in Manga, but in the face of all the atrocities I’ve born witness to it was this one that I did not see that shocked me the most!
You forgot to mention in linlins back story it said there were two witnesses, one being a giant that ran away in terror and never returned to that island, the other being struseon (or however u spell it) who laughed and said “what a monster”
yeaaaaaaa, I forgot this fuckin giant, I hope we will not see him in Elbaf oh my gosh
For Fujitora: I wouldn’t be surprise if the tragedies he saw were done by the government or world nobles. Maybe he had heard about the Ohara incident and perhaps he was against slavery.
why he would be an admiral in this case?
There's sad backstories throughout the series. Hiraluks poisoning was crazy.
I've been thinking about the dark tragic side of One Piece lately, and I can't help but be grateful that Oda chose to make/draw One Piece in a goofy and crack-ish way. Because i can't imagine the mental exhaustion it can put into both the readers and the author if we have all of One Piece had it been only dark, gloom, and serious all the time. Oda might have broken mentally if that is the case, and One Piece wouldn't ever reached this long.
All the goofy-ness and gags and stupid things in One Piece is the sole salvation for Oda to keep making the story this far. It's such a relief the more i think about it.
The fact that we're reminded that the only major [non-undead] thriller bark crewmate to die is absalom is definitely disturbing when you realize hogback is still around somewhere.... with his waifu corpse.... likely with a new shadow in it thanks to Moria...
somehow i feel like Fujitora mighta seen something the elder stars did that caused him to wanna blind himself.
Hiyori's past is arguably the most tragic, simply because her torment lasted over a decade unlike many others that were a one time thing. And they didn't even hide what was happening. In order to survive, she had to prostitute herself out. And not only did she have to prostitute herself out, she had to prostitute herself out to the man that killed her father and caused her people to starve. And the entire time she couldn't so much as shed a single tear or she would have been beheaded. That's horrific.
Oda is definitely not shy to include topics like that, so I don't think it's unreasonable to think the Celestial Dragons weren't just buying cute girls to look at 😬 Though it pains me to think that's the reason the Boa sisters hate men so much, especially since they were so young. Man One Piece is rough 🥹
If think there are a lot of tragic and disgusting backstories and at the end it's a matter of his own personal experience and feelings in life. Like if you're a woman, atrocities about women will maybe affect you more, things like that
@@vitalmorvan977 nah man that's just called being human
Fujitora repeatedly saw the world nobles naked, hence blinding himself
The whole Luffy/Hancock thing is so crazy. The one man that she loves is unaffected by her fruit. If he did love her he'd be turned to stone constantly. Especially if they were going through a bad wave in their relationship.
It is unlikely because he probably wasnt allined whit Moria at that Time, but he may or may not killed Cindry himselfe.
I imagine Fujitora saw atrocities committed by both pirates and the world government, enough to realize that there is no good or bad side and only a world of horrible people that destroyed his hope. I imagine the one he saw that acted as the straw to brake the camel's back must have been awful. But he shows no abnormal animosity toward either the world government or pirates, he was drafted and works on the side of justice but he was also still willing to try to bend the rules for Luffy. His is a backstory I definitely want to see.
Fujitora backstory could easily have been the most brutal, gore, incomfortable and disturbing backstory of fiction if Oda decided to write it. Gouging or cuting out one's own eyes to be able to not see anymore atrocities is fuckin wild, I'm shaking just to try imagine
Baby 5’s backstory was Oda asking himself “how can I make the saddest backstory in the shortest amount of time? 🤔”
I imagine Fujitora as a Free man once took a day off to Travel
And thus came to visit Water 7
Where by Sheer Coincidence all Hotels were Booked
But Luck struck him,
As a kind Patron of a Bar he happend to find shelter in and offered him a place to stay the night in exchange for a few Drinks
As the Sun rose that morning, Fujitora quickly found himself waking up in an unfamiliar setting
And just in that moment did the kind Drinking buddy step out of the Bathroom after taking a much needed Shower
having forgotten her Roommate for the Night
And there Poor Fujitora sat Witnessing Granny Kokoro in all her Glory
And that is the Story all about how Fujitora came to Blinding himself
Catfishing 💀
It's probably been discussed before, but watching the anime episode with Kaido's flashback I just realized that the original Joy Boy could have been Lunarian. That would explain why King knew something about him and why Luffy's hair turns white
It's even darker when it's implied rather than shown, because then it's left to the imagination
Even just thinkign about Brooks backstory makes me nearly ball, he was forced to live with his crew dead bodies which he failed to protect for over 50 years. This man deserves respect for what he was forced to endure
One of the things I've always wondered is, where did the navy get the Green bull and Fujitora? There are 2 hypotheses: one is that the navy opened a job position and whoever wanted it, sent in their CV and applied (like a onepiece linkedin). and the other option was that they were both vice-admirals who simply got promoted.
Both options are frightening because the first means that there are simply people wandering around the onepiece world with powers equivalent to admirals. And the second means that there's a chance that several of the vice-admirals have powers equal to or similar to the current admirals and simply don't have room to be promoted. Remember that there are several of these vice-admirals on egghead island...
The second seems more likely, since we know that admiral candidates do exist
Don't forget the one vice admiral that adamantly refused to be promoted for years in Garp. However he led a rescue op with SWORD to Hachinosu instead of Egghead
Fujitora probly saw the paperwork of all the other stories on the list. He read about the atrocities of the world nobles. The hopelessness many experience in the world of one piece. And the tragedies that occur of the same circumstances. Then to top it all off he sees the power the Marines and the World Government has. To just sit by and not act. Or he saw an elephant murder his trainer who was his Father. Not sure.
We forget that the Kozuki Clan tried to cleanse the Kurozumi Clan. It's very understandable why Orochi would want to do it. We never see anyone apologize to Orochi for it, ever!
Hyori only reiterates the hatred towards them rather than understanding their grief and plight.
Can we all just appreciate the non-clickbait but still really good thumbnail for this video?
IF ODA CAN MAKE AN ADMIRAL ONESHOT IT SHOULD BE ABOUT EITHER FUJITORA OR AKAINU
I hate that to a non-fan, One piece looks like a goofy cartoon with no deeper meaning, because no one outside a specific group of people gives it a chance
Fujitora probably saw the most f**ked up sh!t one piece had to offer like it's version of the eclipse
I love how every time you put him in the back round Doflamingos doing his goofy walk
King you dropped this 👑
Good stuff. As always
bro made up his mind 2 seconds in.
Great video, love this approach
I think fujitora saw a lot when he got throughout his life, but maybe when he became an admiral in service to the celestial dragons, just maybe that might’ve been the final nail in the coffin
So technically speaking, could Fujitora see again if he ever got future sight?
I'm sure the celestial dragons messed with Boa and her sisters in that way
The only point of doubt for me is how much the world nobles seem to find it disgusting to directly interact with regular humans. If even breathing the same air as commoners is abhorrent, then it may be the case that intimate contact would be a massive taboo.
@GoldStorm07 That's true. I forgot about how they're disgusted when they are just breathing the same air as common folk
Its the celestial dragons. Of course they did. Have you seen the stuff the celestial dragons have done? (or describe or had intention of doing anyway)
Hogback, Queen and Ceaser are such twisted and evil reflections of Chopper.
Can't believe you didn't mention the saddest of them all, Señor Pink
Is Baby 5 really her name? It seemed to me that it's just a nickname though, you see in Law's flashback that her and Buffalo have told Law their real name, and that's when we learn that Law is a D.
It would be interesting if what Fujitora saw actually was one or multiple of the other things mentioned in this video. Seeing the world nobles doing their thing in general, but maybe specifically what despicable acts they performed on the Boa sisters. Maybe he traveled past a town so poor they didn't even name their children and considered them burdens. Maybe he saw Hogback stealing the fresh corpse of a beautiful young lady for some gut-wrenching purpose.
It'd be cool if it were all sides, rich and poor, famous and unknown, Marines or pirates, or simply plain civilians. But the one that caused him to blind himself could be the last straw, possibly something that happened to/because of a close person.
Maybe a World noble gave Fujitora a command he couldn’t weasel his way out of that caused monumental anguish to witness.
"i bet you look kind" absolutely BROKE my heart
i love fujitora sm he is a chad and either my second or third favourite marine
If we try to go by timeline, Fujitora was probably a witness to the Ohara incident, that on it own was pretty rough. We have no idea of the things the Rocks pirates did so that could have an effect aswell🤔🤔🤔 Or, he was one of Big Mom's baby daddies😂😂😂
Fujitora is a fairly new member of the Navy, having been conscripted in the last 2 years through a World Military Draft, so there’s no way he was there during Ohara’s annihilation.
Like most people have said I do Believe fujitora saw some horrible events that’s the world government caused but also I think the final straw was the paramount war, even though he wanted to help people by being a marine he couldn’t stand to see the atrocities that the world nobels/certain marines, committed so he blinded himself as a way to cope with the atrocities he’s seen.
Well, you know. In the myths Oudipus blinds himself after he discovers he killed his own father and has slept with his mother. Just putting it out there, I doubt it's actually the case.
My unproven headcanon about Fujitoras blindness is that he first saw how nice and caring the poor can be that suffer under the heavenly tribute. But he also saw the atrocities the world nobles do to their slaves while living in absolute luxury. Maybe he also saw a buster call or a similar catastrophe happening that he couldn't stop or intervene in and that was the straw that broke the camels back... Or the tigers back in this case.