Viganó Accuses Pope Francis

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  • Dr. Moynihan and Matt Gaspers discuss Viganò's accusation against Pope Francis.
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  • @urbietorbicommunications
    @urbietorbicommunications  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

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  • @redsoil5821
    @redsoil5821 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Vigano is 100% right.

    • @E.C.2
      @E.C.2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      SSPX has been compromised +Vigano has my support!

  • @teresabailey7857
    @teresabailey7857 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Prayers for Our beloved Bishop, brave to stand for what he knew, knows, and has experienced in the Pontificate. Prayers for Francis, that he may realize how much he has confussed, hurt, and divided God's children. I pray his eyes and heart will open up to what he has caused. I pray for Mother Church that she may have Mercy on us ALL and that God may lead us into a reconguest of His Truths. Amen

    • @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533
      @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Francis is SO odd, i wonder if he is not under a demonic spirit of carnal life. That would be no different than islam. Is that where he is? I am not with him until he repents and confesses. The eternal Church established by Christ is bigger than francis confusions.

    • @E.C.2
      @E.C.2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I fully support +Vigano and can't believe,in a good way,someone in the official "hierarchy" has finally officially called out everything post 1964!

  • @janetbodell5639
    @janetbodell5639 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I perceive that this is a very spiritual situation we are living in now. However, ppl in the Church are only looking at the temporal aspect! It appears to me that AechB Vigano has been given the cross of the spiritual gift of “ Discernment of spirits” (gratia gratis data). He must speak out against the untoward spirits he spiritually perceives and to do this for the benefit of all of us “simple souls” now floundering at the scandalous actions coming out of Rome. Let us gratefully pray for him, sacrifice as he sacrifices himself publicly…not something I am sure he wants to do, but must do for Our Lord!!!! 🙏🏻💕✝️

  • @a.p.7939
    @a.p.7939 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Vigano is the only person man enough to defend the church. Everyone else will agree with him but will not put their life on the line like he has Is he wrong? Does any one have any other suggestions on how to stop this train wreck?

    • @matthewbroderick6287
      @matthewbroderick6287 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A p, as lies were told of Jesus Christ at His trial, so too even now of Pope Francis by modern day elders like Archbishop Vigano! Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!

    • @a.p.7939
      @a.p.7939 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@matthewbroderick6287 That's an interesting perspective. I believe in the true body and blood of Jesus...The Eucharist.! The difficulty comes with the amount of difficulty and confusion that has recently been sown. Thank you for your perspective.

    • @matthewbroderick6287
      @matthewbroderick6287 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @a.p.7939 The confusion had been shown by Archbishop Vigano who claims Pope Francis is not the Pope and teaches heresy! Other ignorant Clergy have done the same! Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture! Pope Benedict XVI himself affirmed Pope Francis is the legitimate successor to Saint Peter! God's grace and peace to you always! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!

    • @a.p.7939
      @a.p.7939 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@matthewbroderick6287 There are other bishops and priests within the church that do not agree with some of the things that are coming out of the Vatican. Vigano is not alone. As I read your text, it seems angry or defensive. Peace.

    • @matthewbroderick6287
      @matthewbroderick6287 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @a.p.7939 and there were many elders and Pharisees that also claimed Jesus Christ taught error! There are also many Catholic Bishops and Cardinals that agree that Pope Francis has never taught anything contrary to Church teaching or Canon Law or Holy Scripture! Of all the people whom I have challenged to a debate on the teachings of Pope Francis ad Biblical or not, not one has accepted my challenge! Let me ask you, when you stand before Jesus Christ, have you ever even taken the time to read any of the encyclicals of Pope Francis, and can you provide evidence where Pope Francis teaches heresy and error? God's grace and peace to you always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!!

  • @marybeetaperera2823
    @marybeetaperera2823 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Some time back he himself ripped off his titles saying l am not the vicar of Ctrist etc. etc.Everybody has forgotten. What more than that.According to him he is not the succor of Peter

  • @patriciamathews5975
    @patriciamathews5975 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Interesting that America Magazine reported (falsely) that Vigano had appeared in Rome. The editor "at-large" for America Magazine is non other than Father James Martin. It would have benefited the Vatican if AB Vigano had appeared in the Vatican.
    (I'm glad Vigano did not.)

    • @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533
      @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There are a lot of WRONG ARTICLES coming out from 'rome'. Francis is a destroyer-----AND PPL NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO DETAILS.

    • @letincelle5473
      @letincelle5473 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Too bad "Father" James Martin's name is so similar to the name of our good and holy Father Malachi Martin. A GOOD and decent "Father Martin" -- and a "questionable" Father Martin who is alive and doing whatever it is that he is doing in these heretical days of Holy Mother Church!
      ❤🙏 🕊️
      My own heart is with Archbishop Viganó, and with Father Malachi Martin in Heaven.

    • @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533
      @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@letincelle5473 Because of the errors of Francis the Destroyer, i cannot attend NO masses. You post hits home, as i have left faithful priests because they are under strict orders of obedience to a corruptor. That tears me apart--and i cry in thinking of the weight i poses on the faithful.

    • @CatholicTraditional
      @CatholicTraditional 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@letincelle5473Martin is a very common surname; Malachi was too good for the Jesuits. 😊

    • @patriciamathews5975
      @patriciamathews5975 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@CatholicTraditional
      The Jesuits were once the true contenders for the Faith & helped spread the Catholic Faith to some of the most remote parts of the World. That was a hundred + years ago & yes. The order took up many worldly views in the 1900s. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, a Jesuits priest, influenced many by his modernist views having been influenced by Darwin, Freud, and Rousseau. He was a forerunner to much Vatican II thought.

  • @patriciamathews5975
    @patriciamathews5975 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    A.B.Vigano is in communion with the Eternal Universal Ordinary Magisterium & the Popes that pledged their Lives to uphold to the rightful teaching of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
    Amen. 🙏✝️🙏

  • @kilroyjones7786
    @kilroyjones7786 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Hail Vigano!!!

  • @patriciamathews5975
    @patriciamathews5975 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    On Bergogulio's first celebration of the Feast day of Saints Peter & Paul on June 29, 2013, Francis states "......... Who am I to judge?"
    Sounds like this pontiff has no desire to decifer or confirm his brothern in the Faith.

    • @Jake4Truth
      @Jake4Truth 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No judging the schismatic 🇩🇪 bishops but yet plenty for Vigano.

  • @michellelococo4023
    @michellelococo4023 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you so very much Dr. Moynihan and Matt. A lot to digest and we pray for Archbishop Vigano and Pope Francis.

  • @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533
    @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I'm a LAY FAITHFUL CATHOLIC----francis is in egregious error and nothing he does, save REPENT and STEP DOWN will make me change. I CRY A LOT. i understand the details. BUT I KNOW WHAT I SEE OF FRANCIS--AND IT IS DESTRUCTION TO CHRIST'S CHRUCH ON THE EARTH.

  • @mattgaspers4354
    @mattgaspers4354 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you to everyone for watching! One self-correction: Cum ex Apostolatus (1559) was issued by Pope Paul IV while the Council of Trent was still ongoing (sessions were held periodically 1545-1563), not "a decade or so after Trent" (9:51).

  • @rosiemeuer9359
    @rosiemeuer9359 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Vigano has seen and experienced the corruption spreading over time from within the institution, and finally all the way to the very top. I believe that God is guiding him in his words and actions in order to eventually cause a cleaning of house.

  • @maryheater7620
    @maryheater7620 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My question is: why has it taken 11 years to have all these challenges and discussions regarding this papacy?!

  • @williammartinjr.3627
    @williammartinjr.3627 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Does G-d the Holy Spirit condone the obstinant & scandelous anti-Catholic statements & Sacraliges of Bergoglio? What Church is this???

    • @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533
      @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      WE are a True Church in crisis. Stay with the True Catholic Faith of the Ages. Nothing else matters. "don't look right or left----look at the Truth of Christ alone"

  • @genevievering1228
    @genevievering1228 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You can tell the ideas and faith of a man in those he appoints.

    • @E.C.2
      @E.C.2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      JP2 "promoted" Jorge.

  • @genevievering1228
    @genevievering1228 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    These men just will not look at the facts.

  • @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533
    @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I remeber a news clip of francis. His words were like an avalance: "If there is no pope there is no Church." Tired of grieving this jesuit whose own order never believed in the pope. I'll stick with the Faith of the Ages and view francis as an anti-pope--and there have been many. We survived them all.

  • @genevievering1228
    @genevievering1228 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Benedict XVI said Vatican II was the French revolution of the Catholic Church.

  • @genevievering1228
    @genevievering1228 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You can argue until you die that your fruit tree is a peach tree but if the fruit of the tree is a pear, it is a pear tree.

  • @DennisShea-hv6bm
    @DennisShea-hv6bm 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Garabandal said Benedict was the last pope before the "end of times." Garabandal took place during the 2nd Vatican Council.

  • @genevievering1228
    @genevievering1228 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    St. Paul in Thess. II tells us of the Great Apostasy

  • @ladyrotha5420
    @ladyrotha5420 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Fascinating and informative. Thank you!

  • @M5guitar1
    @M5guitar1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What Bergoglio says and does are often contradictory. That's why many commentators call him a Peronist, playing both sides of an issue. 3 years ago, Bishop Barron admitted on Catholic Answers Live during an interview that "the Modernists WON at Vatican II". He said this twice and also said that he was trained in the ideology of Nouvelle Theologie, which we all should reject as heterodox. The "privileged way" of parallel ways to Heaven is heresy and should be condemned as such. Faith in Christ is the Only way to the Father as the Lord said in the Gospel which contradicts proponents of Vatican II's Religious Liberty.

  • @williammartinjr.3627
    @williammartinjr.3627 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Should St John the Baptist have watered down or been more politically correct regarding his call upon the fairhful? NO!!! 1st hand experience varifies calling a spade a spade is the correct approach. Whimpy claims allow those who are in sin "believe" rheir dtate is acceptable to G-d

  • @sallys9294
    @sallys9294 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I trust Archbishop Vigano.

  • @rjfpac
    @rjfpac 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    SSPPV

  • @7oneofseven
    @7oneofseven 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The question is courage in the face of evil, in other words if your obedience is mainly from fear of what others think of you, or financial loss for rebuking the pope who is outside the Catholic Church by his teachings and actions, you are a coward. These times cry out for people to stand in breach to defend Jesus teachings and His Holy Church.

  • @a.p.7939
    @a.p.7939 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Prophecy of Malachi says Benedict was the last Pope

    • @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533
      @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is disputed, but i have heard the same thing. Book of Rev. said there will be 2 popes---and one will be false. We have passed that. God will do what God will do.

  • @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533
    @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ​ @E.C.2 TY for so vibrant a support post. I was born 1955, and grew up learning the Mass of the Ages. I felt betrayed when it was changed, but believed in the Eucharist of Christ Body and Blood, the need for Confession and to avoid sin. I unfortunately adapted to the slackard standards of the NO, but to this day, recognize them as authentic. I stopped going to NO when all the BS frank put out about impulsive changes were made public. Now i am AFRAID to go to a NO, because of the betrayal of the Mass itself is now an option. STAY LATIN. SAY THE ROSARY. SOURCE CHECK EVERYTHING YOU HEAR ABOUT CHANGES BECAUSE THEY ARE DESTRUCTIVE TO OUR HOLY MOTHER CHURCH. love, maureen

  • @johnmceleny6374
    @johnmceleny6374 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If you could interview Fr.Joseph Iannuzzi... a well known Brilliant Theologian... He would surly shed some light on this sisuation.😊

    • @rjfpac
      @rjfpac 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not a good idea. Do your research.

  • @genevievering1228
    @genevievering1228 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Catholic Church condemns the proposition that a future pope or council will decide a in the future what is happening in the day. You have to know today what is correct. The Church further teaches that you have to obey legitimate authority not heretical ones.

    • @E.C.2
      @E.C.2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      St Norbert and St Bernard helped depose anti Pope Anacletus.

  • @patriziafolino3919
    @patriziafolino3919 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I agree 💯 with Vigano

  • @DennisShea-hv6bm
    @DennisShea-hv6bm 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    (49:50) Bishop Fulton Sheen also spoke of a coming anti-church or false church.

  • @tarasgarden
    @tarasgarden 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I began following the thought of Vigano when he was courageous enough to call out Bergolio’s unconditional support for the vaccine mandates during Covid despite the lack of testing or proof of safety and efficacy. Bergolio’s support for requiring acceptance of the vaccine is what every globalist leader in the western world did to their citizens in violation of our human right to bodily sovereignty. From there, I began to distrust the motivation behind Bergolio’s efforts to bring major changes within the church, including his planned restrictions on the availability of the Latin Mass. I have come to respect Vigano’s serious and public critique of Bergolio’s leadership and now his refusal to compromise in order to retain approval from a leadership that he believes to be untrustworthy.

    • @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533
      @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      non-vaxr and jorge was very wrong. gives me the creeps.

    • @matthewbroderick6287
      @matthewbroderick6287 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533no, Pope Francis was not wrong at all! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink

    • @matthewbroderick6287
      @matthewbroderick6287 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tara, I on the other hand, have to come to respect Pope Francis for the lies and false accusations against him by Archbishop Vigano! Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture! By the way, the vaccine was tested and saved many lives! Plus, unfortunately, many Catholic Christians claim the Latin Mass is the only valid Mass, which of course would then exclude the Last Supper, also not said in Latin! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink

    • @matthewbroderick6287
      @matthewbroderick6287 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tara, I on the other hand have come to respect Pope Francis and the lies and false accusations against him by Archbishop Vigano! Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture! Plus, the vaccines were tested and saved many lives! Unfortunately, many Catholic Christians claim the Latin Mass is the only valid Mass, which of course would then exclude the Last Supper, also not said in Latin! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!

    • @ThomasSt40
      @ThomasSt40 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Vatican:
      Anglicans: ✅️ 👍
      Luther: ✅️ 👍
      TLM: ❌️ 👎
      Vigano: ❌️ 👎

  • @MargaretStone-ns1bp
    @MargaretStone-ns1bp 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Did Archbishop Vigano list , state in his response anything heretical prior to his election to the pontificate?

  • @ericthoman4069
    @ericthoman4069 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What about young families with children and young teenagers -- the "little ones" as Our Lord refereed to them:
    How does a parent tell their children not to follow the sexual mores of this pope so as not to lose their immortal souls?
    Might the Greek Orthodox Church be a valid option until the children have become adults?

    • @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533
      @minhabonitafilhabrasileira7533 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      have the advantage of an oratory and the TLM. i don't even know what to do if i don't have my Mother. Hope someone can offer directions. lm.

    • @E.C.2
      @E.C.2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lux Vera web site,do not leave Holy Mother Church. Traditional Catholic chapels are waiting on faithful to attend.

  • @a.p.7939
    @a.p.7939 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    But he says things in double talk

    • @Mutasis_Mutandis
      @Mutasis_Mutandis 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      God is not a god of confusion.

  • @E.C.2
    @E.C.2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it more problematic to proclaim Archbishop Lefebvre will 1 day be canonized yet simultaneously refer to the man who "excommunicated" him as
    St JP2? +Vigano is simply calling a spade a spade.

  • @genevievering1228
    @genevievering1228 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    John XXIII refused "to confirm the brethren in the Faith" before Vatican II.

  • @genevievering1228
    @genevievering1228 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Matt and Dr. Moynihan need to ask for prayers that they may see the truth not pretend to pray for Bishop Vigano with such condescension

  • @ericlauridsen5193
    @ericlauridsen5193 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To be fair with Archbishop Vigano, many distinguished theologians and saintly prelates did inhabited the thoughts that he has...and let's face it, what he said about pope francis are all valid and true..he's just courageous unlike other prelates who knew these things yet kept silent about it but they are answerable to God when the time comes.

  • @myangelwings45
    @myangelwings45 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bergoglio has never signed his name as pope “PP” after his signature as was customary up until he arrived on the scene.
    He has never lived in the papal residence, or allowing the pilgrims to kiss his papal ring as was customary…. When he was elected there were “rumours that he was involved with Freemasons and he received a letter that was made public from the Freemasons congratulating him on his election. ( which to me was a red flag from the start. ).

  • @genevievering1228
    @genevievering1228 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Run Sheep Run!

  • @christineOFS
    @christineOFS 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jorge Bergolio publicly gave praise to communists before his valid papacy. Photos are out there! That's good enough proof he never intended to continue the mission of the Catholic Church as Pope. Liz Yore ha ample proof! We want a Holy Pope, not a valid pope, just like in a marriage a loving, authentic Marriage, not just valid.

  • @jamesmonahan9408
    @jamesmonahan9408 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    JPII is then in the same boat. What JPII did at Assisi was awful.

    • @buckan8r999
      @buckan8r999 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      twice. Kissed the koran. elevated Mccarick to cardinal, excommunicated Lefebvre.

  • @g71neo53
    @g71neo53 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you understand the nature of the ecclesial-industrial complex, then you will understand the nature of the arguments.

  • @matthewbroderick6287
    @matthewbroderick6287 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As lies were told of Jesus Christ at His trial, so too even now of Pope Francis by modern day elders like Archbishop Vigano! Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture! Praying for his conversion! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!

  • @solibeata6642
    @solibeata6642 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Robert, all Pope Bergolio do - was make
    what had been going on for several decades
    legitimate. A couple would privately talk with a priest and after counsel make the decision “in conscience” that any previous marriage was invalid. They could then go to another parish where they were not recognized and receive the precious body of our Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @amyholmes206
    @amyholmes206 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @ersontitular8177
    @ersontitular8177 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe a conclave of Bishops and Cardinals to decide legitimacy of the Pope by confronting him of heresy and probably selection of a new Pope. Bishop Vigano is and was never a schismatic. Right from the start introducing pachamama is already a desecration of the Holy ground tho no one is holy but the fact that knowing the place is holy should be treated as holy.

  • @angelamalek
    @angelamalek 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought the First See is judged by no one. What does Viganò hope to accomplish with this formal accusation?

    • @ritawalz3590
      @ritawalz3590 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The truth

    • @angelamalek
      @angelamalek 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ritawalz3590 His truth anyway.

  • @RstesotTv
    @RstesotTv 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At least they aren't feeding him to the lions or burning him like Polycarp and friends....

  • @dariusclovis1374
    @dariusclovis1374 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Regarding whether the Vatican II Council was Pastoral or Authoritative in its teaching (Dogmatic), Pope Paul VI stated:
    "But one thing must be noted here, namely, that the teaching authority of the Church, even though not wishing to issue extraordinary dogmatic pronouncements, has made thoroughly known its authoritative teaching on a number of questions".
    (Address of Pope Paul VI at the Last General Meeting of the Second Vatican Council, 7 December 1965).
    This being so, a Catholic in good standing cannot withhold assent to the Council's teaching nor refuse submission to its authority.

    • @Vexx_Line_
      @Vexx_Line_ 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      He also remarked that; "the smoke of sałan had permeated the walls".

    • @erics7992
      @erics7992 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fine then if that's the way you want it. Paragraph 116 of Sacrosanctum Concilium clearly states that the music at Mass is supposed to be either Gregorian Chant or Renaissance polyphony. If anyone attends a parish or supports its work or likewise a diocese where Gregorian Chant and sacred polyphony are not used at Mass then by your definition they have rejected Vatican II and I am forced to declare them schismatic.

    • @ThomasSt40
      @ThomasSt40 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Vatican II contradicts Vat I.
      And Vatican II affirms protestantism, whereas the Council of Trent doesn't but condemns it.
      Vatican II declares prots are united to the church through baptism when this is contrary to Vatican I:
      Vat II, Unitatis Redintegratio #3: “For men who believe in Christ and have been truly baptized are in communion with the Catholic Church even though this communion is imperfect."
      Vatican I, Session 4, Chapter 3: "...we promulgate anew the definition of the ecumenical Council of Florence which *must be believed by all faithful Christians* namely that the apostolic see and the Roman pontiff hold a world-wide primacy, and that the Roman pontiff is the successor of blessed Peter the prince of the apostles, true vicar of Christ, head of the whole church and father and teacher of all christian people. ..."
      Thus baptism for protestants is salvifically insufficient according to Vatican I.

    • @ThomasSt40
      @ThomasSt40 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And... The true words of consecration, as affirmed by the Ecumenical Council of Florence:
      "...the holy Roman Church, relying on the teaching and authority of the apostles Peter and Paul…uses *this form* of words in the consecration of the Lord's Body: This is my body. And of His blood: For this is the chalice of my blood, of the New and eternal Testament: The mystery of faith, which shall be shed, for you and for many, unto the remission of sins." ...
      As the Douay-Rheims Bible online commentary shows, the words are linked to Daniel 9:27.
      This stretches back to the Apostles, continued on from then until Florence, was affirmed by the Council of Florence, then continued on to the Council of Trent and past it, and was present in missals up until 1962.
      The word "all" is not the same as the word "many" and are two entirely different words.