4 Days in the Chain Locker: Worst Job Yet! | Step 409
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I've been repairing & customizing boats for 53 years now including working for the local Pearson dealer at the start. I'm rebuilding a 1978 P-31 for local sailing right now and enjoy your fearless attack to improve the boat. That said, bigger holes are a must and the clamshells should be pointed aft so when the bow dives into a wave at speed it will actually suck the water out. No screen though, it will clog up almost instantly. Best wishes!
Was thinking the same thing. With all the detritus ( fancy word for various types of crap ) that will come up with the chain and fall off in the locker those little hole will clog up pretty quick.
Expanding foam! Many yrs ago I was in the coast guard and we were re decking a 32 ft rescue boat. We decided that filling all of the voids under the deck with expanding foam was a great idea. None of us had ever used this product but what could go wrong. So we mixed part A with part B and started pouring. All went well for the first 5 min, the next 25 mins were a sheer panic. We had to man the snow shovels, every man for himself. We all looked like we were tarred and feathered. I guess 5 gallons was a wee bit to much 😳
Thanks for your story.. 😂
If it's not a Pearson anymore I thinkum it might be a Puma. Whatever she is , you;re an inspiration to those of us with low budget aspirations!
This is the first little hint of Uma operating in it's "new to you" sailing state. Well done!! You both have great attention to detail and are very thoughtful about what the end result needs to be before you begin. That's where all your past experience comes together for a better future. I have an expression / mantra I use for myself (pretty much every day) that you definitely follow: "Always be good to your future self". Sometimes that means a little more work, a little more patience in that moment, but you are worth it! The corollary to that is: "When you realize that benefit, never forget to thank and congratulate your past self." Then just keep "paying it forward". Really enjoyed this Step.
Ya, Dan & Kika are pretty remarkable...
Anyone who says you're putting too much energy into an old boat needs to look at where uou sailed her after working on the original little wreck.
Also look at prices for new boats, then investigate their build “quality”.
Where they sailed is exactly why they should get a new boat. Hull design has changed a lot in that time.
At 25:15 Dan said that the chain locker is no Sistine Chapel but it's glassed and done. For this reason I think y'all should call the chain locker The Sistine Chapel from now on. Fantastic work👏🏻
You are the only ones who are happy drilling holes in the boat.
This is not true. Sam Holmes, anyone?
@@Michel2731 Was I the only fan who was terrified when they drilled the holes for their windvane autopilot?
You are far from the only ones drilling prudent holes in the hills as I watch many yt channels repairing and rebuilding boats. You 2 are a great team. Wishing you a safe and happy future.😀😀😀
Dan, you are so lucky to have Kika by your side. I have been a subscriber for years and have developed a deep respect for you both. Love to you both from Australia...
Kudos for all your hard work. Seeing a completely clean bow must be SO satisfying…..
I’m a huge fan of painting the interior of the hull. It protects the glass and painted with a light color you will be able to see a lot better.
For sure. We’ll get to painting soon enough.
@@SailingUma _No pressure!_
Guys, you are doing really well but, unless you missed a stage when filming, especially when glassing with epoxy, either use peel ply or (my preference) paint epoxy primer onto your laminate while it is still green (not sticky to touch but before the waxy bloom develops) saves a whole bunch of sanding before painting. If you choose the right primer you can get months of overcoating window before you have to top coat. Also where you have just drilled holes that you know will get wet just pain a little epoxy in the hole to protect the exposed laminate, you can paint it properly when you paint the rest of the anchor locker. 😊
A bit of Flowcoat in the chain locker would just finish it off. Holes could probably be bigger as mud, sand and crud off the chain will block it up eventually. Love what you are doing. my back was feeling sympathy pains for you in the locker.
We’ll get to painting everything soon. But we used epoxy, so won’t be flow coat in there.
@@SailingUmaUse hard truck bed liner one with fibre in it . Its time to send your anchor to be regalvanized. Chain can be regalvanized too if you can find a competent company.
flowcoat over epoxy? I don't think so
OMG my whole body was hurting just looking at Dan in that position. Great job you guys !
I love how well organized your little workshop is...
Love the over pressure suit you designed to keep all the bad dist out. 👍👌
A trade tip for when you get fiberglass on your skin: make a duct tape loop around hand with sticky out. Use it to pat skin and most glass will stick to it.
This will not be news to anyone but I feel the need to proclaim it: Kika is small and mighty!
In days of yore the hull deck joint was called the devil. So when “there’s the devil to pay ( and no pitch hot)” or you are “stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea” ,they are both the hull deck seam.
That's a Hell of an Interesting Piece of Maritime Lore!!!👿 ...I use That Expression a Lot👍🦑🦑
You guys are amazing. I've been following your channel from the beginning. What amazes me is that you took old sailboat and are giving it new life for the second time. Sort of reincarnation. (🎉Probably will be cheaper to get a new one?) What you doing is really remarkable, admirable and very inspiring. I am a sailor myself, who has done many upgrades to my boat, but as the upgrades progresses I'm getting more and more lazy to keep going. Watching you inspires me, and keep me going. Thank you. Hope we will meet some day, sailing together to a mutual destination. Wish you a foot of water under your keel.
PS rebuild's rule, just as entertaining as the mostly-sailing videos. Taking what someone else would have trashed several times over and turning her into your best friend that shows you the world, now that's pretty awesome. Thanks for taking us along.
New, better performing boat would be a better option. It's sailing Uma not building Uma
@@internetposta7389 free world and lots of sailing channels out there...
I don't sail nor will ever sail but I love to know how things work. You folks continue to put out great videos with information that I can understand. You are a great team to watch. Been watching for nearly a year and look forward to each new episode. I have to admit that I bet you have some great bloopers/outtakes. My wife and I can have some tense moments just rearranging furniture. LOL
Look how far your craftsmanship skills have come since early on. Now you make it look easy, knowing it’s not, and it comes out clean and perfect. You remind me of the days when I pulled wire in cramped insulation filled attics and the heat and freaky positions I had to contort into in order to get the job done. I could never do that again. Great job.
You two bring a whole new meaning to 'work ethic'. Amazing!
I have to say you two are a marvel. The way Dan's brain works to solve each problem as it comes along and the support you give each other. Awesome! However, in your QA session my heart sank 😢 . Got to wait until next summer before you launch. Boo! Hoo! 😢 Ah! I know, I'll re watch your sailing videos. That'll keep me going 😅
Bigger holes. Those are one tiny piece of crud away from getting blocked.
I've kinda lost track but I'm guessing that Uma's hull where your new holes are is solid fiberglass with no wood core, balsa or anything else. Pretty cool what a new solution to an old problem can be. Wishing you many many years of comfortable, dry, and much more odor-free cruising to come.
Hi there. I suggest to enlarge those holes to double the diameter. Being small now, they will fill up very fast with dirt and close off water passage. Thats my experience. Good luck. Silvano from Switzerland
Dan, Dan the Stay Puffed marshmallow man.
I was thinking Big Hero 6.1
lol that outro shot! It always feels good when the terrible projects get finished.
Completely sealed hull-deck joint - so you are building a submarine after all!
It's my pet peeve that many (GFRP) boats are like a tupperware box with a lid on them. You are fixing that. Well thought through, well done.
A Land Rover is an essential building tool. I used one to raise a bunch of 10" square Cypress Pine posts when building a house.
Now you just need some Dri-Dek(flexible vinyl flooring with tiny feet on the underside) to keep the chain off the bottom so it will actually have a chance to dry out. Sadly even with keeping the chain rinsed off, muck will still accumulate and the chain locker will need to be cleaned out to prevent the holes from clogging up over time.
Spraying over theotor and contacts with something like Corrosion x will protect it for a lot longer and especially the low tension control system..
If you put a rubber mat in there the sort with drain holes through it will cut the noise and alow it to drain through and prent the harshest slamming in big waves of the chain into the locker floor.
Hi you guys, I’m currently working my way through you whole back catalogue of videos, I’m loving everything I watch and finding you really inspiring. Keep up the good work and thanks for all your hard work in making these videos ❤
They are pretty awesome people...
Learnt something new, 2 drain holes for the chain locker. A lot if thought and work is going on into that front triangle. Sometimes, less is more.
I can see a future off shore cruiser designed and manufactured by the KIKADAN naval-/architects
The measuring cup reducers. LOVE IT.
Pretty island girl stowed away in the new chain locker. Need to pursue Sistine chapel theme in there. Love the new watertight compartment chain locker.
That was a Cirque du Soleil type of situation inside the chain locker! Well done!
This episode brought to you by Dan's chiropractor 😆. I know I'm projecting my 52-year old bad back on you, but the spaces you both squeeze into (and in unusual positions to boot) make me want to take a sympathetic Advil! lol Was so pumped to wake up on the East Coast of the US to see your video waiting for me. The perfect accompaniment to my morning coffee ☕.
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing Uma back on the water, better than new and doing what she was meant to do, but I'm equally loving this refit series. Awesome video, guys. Cheers!
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32:08-Thanks for that explanation-I didn’t realize the door & locker were watertight & was worrying about water getting inside your cabin & bilge even though the chain locker was above the waterline.
Nice work. Would recommend that you increase the size of the drain holes to 25 mm to avoiding them to be plugged with clay etc. On the outside you cover the hole with a clamshell vent.
I totally agree! A clamshell oriented aft and down will prevent seawater from entering while. Allowing fresher water from the chain pipe to exit.
I totally agree with this comment! A clamshell oriented with the opening down and aft will prevent seawater from being driven in from the boat's forward motion and waves.
Great job guys, and well done for toughing that one out, Dan, those bad access and stress position jobs are the worst. Great job again and thanks for sharing xx👍👏👏🤗
Your editing and filming just continues to be spectacular!
It's the Pillsbury Dough Boy in the chain locker. That was actually a good idea to use positive preasure to keep the dust from getting into the suit.
It's good that you're tackling this project when you are young and flexible,,, cause in a few years it won't be as easy for you. Well done! Yer doin it right. 💖💖💖💖
Ah that must remind you of the days when you hauled the anchor by hand!!!!
Maybe I am a little bit unhinged, but I think the forward cabin would be a nice place to have one of those secret hidden wall dioramas....
Imagine the confusion on your guests faces when you open up the hatch, and there is a scene from "The Borrowers" going on in there
Loved this improvement. There is a HUGE difference between a bilge that is completely dry and one that has just a little bit of standing water in it. You are going to thank yourselves every day for the change, and never ever settle for boating without a dry cabin bilge again. I'm sure you know to chamfer the sides of the hole to avoid crack propagation.
It's good to see that you put the Landrover to good use; it's build for this kind of things :)
Yu two are a fantastic team and you accomplished so much together. Great episode. 👍🇨🇦
Since you’ve run all your mooring out, I’d suggest end for end you chain when you recover it.
Having a massive spikey anchor pointed upward under where you were working gave me the heebie-jeebies. It's the cliché death scene for a previously un-killable movie villain. You're already working at fall death height on the boat without harnesses I know but can you lie the anchor flat at least?
Aha! I wasn't the only one thinking, turn it over, turn it over, when the anchor and chain came down. (Former emergency services person here, you really don't want to know how creatively people can destroy themselves.)
I'd either put an inverted plastic trash can or the anchor or ask the yard if they'd be willing to use their fork truck to move it out of the way.
Kika looked so badass pulling up that bow railing!
BACK IN 1975 , I USED A CLEAR SPRAY TO SEAL OUT MOISTURE & THE ELEMENTS ,TO PROTECT THE DISTRIBUTOR CAP & SPARK PLUGS WIRES !
No half measures here !❤💪But you already put a hole in the keel, guys. She was pissing water from the bilge. So practically it's not the first one.😉 Wishing you succes on the further rebuild of Uma ! Greetings, Frank.
Install a length of conduit between holes with small diameter chain to be able to pull chain each way through the drain holes, keeping them clean. Just a thought for you to improve the design.
Love watching your videos, I particularly enjoy watching the journey you two have taken, both as Craftsmen and as Sailors
Never leave someone alone working in a confined area! Have a plan how to evacuate him/her if something goes wrong!!!!
Gosh Dan and Kika, I tried to get in there through my phone to help out but it wouldn't work😂 it's fun watching you all goes through your building adventures, really! Looking forward to every week and wish I was there to help. Love you both and God bless you both!❤❤
The only potential issue I can see is your chain locker drain holes getting clogged. It’ll be easy to unclog them in dry conditions, but what if the chain locker fills with water?
Then again, I know nothing, haha.
Loving the build process. Thanks so much for all you guys do!
Dan..... you really need an electric ratchet drill with deep sockets for all those thru deck fittings. Just a thought. Love you two, and your work. Keep it up, thanks for all the fun.
Loving the Uma update videos. Dying to get my hands on a bottle of Uma Whisky
you guys are doing an amazing job. your going to have such value in your home when you are done
I really hope that you intend to bore larger diameter holes in the chain locker. I would recommend at least 3/4" drain holes that should be large enough to release any debris that might come up with the chain.
Yes. It depends how large the caps are. We’ll adjust if needed.
There is a saying that I believe is attributed to Mark Twain "if you have to swallow a frog don't spend too long looking at it and if you have to swallow two frogs swallow the big one first". That task looked like one big ugly frog. Possibly even a toad. You must be so glad to have got it done. 👏👏👏👏👏
How nice to get a glimpse of Uma's original blue.😅
Thumbnail was a kind of early elf on a shelf vibe. Kidding aside, the details in the bulkheads really looks like you’re making headway. Eye on the prize.
I've also heard of using plasticine modeling clay (oil-based), How well these stoppers will stay put under heavy pounding green water is a good question, but under more moderate conditions I would try the Nerf Ball. or you could resort to using children's clay or "Play do" then paint with marine paint to stop sea water from entering the bow from the anchor chain..At least the anchor has a home now.. and you probably have the solid answer to the question, what anchors you? Each other does.
I just love the cooperation and innovation! So fun to watch.
About the scaffolding, you had the end pieces okay, but there are some side braces, in the form of an X, that you also need to make the structure stable. Or so it appeared from the quick glimpse I got in the video.
The disadvantage on draining your anchor locker through the hull is that you will end up with unsightly rusty drain marks on the exterior of the hull.
Had a thought of they drill oversize and then insert corrosion proof tubes that stand proud of the hull glass ..like short kettle spouts .. that way the rusty water and chain muck won't drip down the sides. It will just fall in the water.
Plastic or SStl.
If the gelcoat isn’t polished it will stain. But if it’s painted or polished it doesn’t.
The drain holes will probably over time stain the boat at the outside (you can see it at 34:31), so if/when you paint on the outside it will be good to add at the place of these holes some dark color or pattern to mask this.
The stain will just wash off or polish off easily
I put some of that rubber grid on the bottom of my chain locker and most of my cockpit lazarettes to help drainage and to help the chain and rode to dry out and not block the drain holes.
I think you need larger holes in case debris (mud) comes off the chain and clogs your hole. No screen for that reason also. You two are doing an amazing job, I enjoy your thoughtful processes and your determination to make your sailing home the best it can be.
🇨🇦 🇭🇹 🇺🇲 Things continue to look good! I enjoy the progress updates and the vibe of your channel. 🇺🇲🇭🇹🇨🇦
Chain locker shelf, not to shabby!
Hey, guys. Those weep holes in the Chain Locker should get some epoxy in them to seal the sides of the holes to prevent the water from soaking the multiple layers of glass. It is definitely nice having that forward watertight bulkhead as a crumple zone in case of a collision. Nice job!
You guys should start an old sailboat refit company. Just design the complete refit and have people in your yard do the work. That way old boats don’t go to waste and they are built better than some new boats.
You guys, I just love your editing; you've really got It!
I have an added purpose for the chain locker. A brig, guest cabin, smugglers hold!
Cool, I had the exact same issue! Took me a while to figure out where that water in the bilge was coming from! To find salty water there always freaked me out 😂
Incredible feeling to solve the issue.
Thx for the great tutorial on how to properly fix the anchor chain room.
Cheers Maarten
s/y Ellinor
Denmark 🇩🇰
that truck has paid for itself many times over
The cleaner looks like the perfect thing for the job I am about to do (clean and re-lay foredeck) and the cost of the product is remarkably cheap. However when I am asked over $100 for shipping I am tempted to try something else (UK watcher). Pity it is not for sale in UK
Like others in the comments, I have concerns that the water will get in between the fiberglass laminate through the holes.
It’s solid glass. So no need to worry about it’s just as water tight as the rest of the hull. There is no “in between layers”.
Have you thought of putting in a grate jus above the floor of the chain locker? The chain would sit on the grate (with holes in it) and water would drip down through the grate and out of the drain hole. That way the chain never sits in water.
I'm sure they've thought if this, but if their bilge pumps aren't going go to off regularly on their own anymore, they may want to add checking the pumps to a regular checklist.
Kika is doing Quality Control ...
One thing I have noticed on chain compartment drain holes, if they are painted white you get a stain of oxidation, you might want to paint something dark or leave it as is to get that vintage look.
Good job … vary hard to get video and you did great…. The whole project is coming along nicely .
It occurred to me that you have basically built a new boat and as such it deserves a new model name and I would like to suggest Kika 40 (not sure of the spelling or length)! but you get the idea.
The claustrophobic spaces you guys are working in reminds me when I was a mechanic working in the horizontal stabilizer of the 747. It bothered me at first but after 2 years working in those conditions, I did not want to come out.
❤😊 that was a monumental task but it really helps Uma become a complete adventure cruiser ❤😊
You guys can do some ice breaking now with all that chain locker work. ❤
Dan, you are so lucky to have Kika by your side , what a couple my god .
Rest video,in your anchor locker why not put down a piece of cock pit grate for the anchor chain to sit on, it helps keep the area clean and drain easier.just a thought
Hi Dan don forget to fill the hole with epoxy whit biger hole and make a smale
Ler hole to protect your shell ,excuse my english i am french Canadian
That hull-deck joint is a flash back to the J24. Although designed by Rod Johnstone and first built c1977 by J Boats Tillotson-Pearson, by 1978 they were built in the UK by Westerly Yachts. As a one design the same hull to deck joint was used, closed badly by a teak toe rail. Such were construction methods in even late 1970's. So the foredeck issues are very familiar, the J has an exposed joint at the bow area, no alloy cover.
I like your roller relay system, a great team in fibreglassing action. This is where the skills for boat repairs and on-going maintenance need to be critically and strategically planneed. Resilience is a thing!
Given the long service of the fixings (bolts & screws) will you be renewing them, re-attaching the fittings?
I would have used Coosa board as the base of the anchor well.
Can you tell Sailing Magic carpet about the water going into the bilge, they have moved the chain locker aft, under the V berth and draining to the bilge sump, along with mud and rust.
I have ordered my own spray bottle of Release. Can’t wait to try it.
Happy happy coming along well!!