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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- Talk with @redeemedzoomer6053
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Twitter - / orthodoxkyle
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00:00 Raised Secular
11:51 True Church?
17:39 Relativism
28:50 Tradition
34:47 The Bible
43:40 Authority
49:16 To be a Christian?
57:55 Orthodox Worship
1:05:20 Spiritual Poison
1:16:40 Orthodoxy
If it wasn’t for redeemedzoomer I never would have begun going to church.
If it wasn’t for RedeemedZoomer I’d never have the idea of converting to Eastern Orthodoxy
@@a2zz-gk197 Similar for me. Tried to find more about orthodoxy from him which led me to Kyle’s video response.
@@a2zz-gk197If it wasn’t for Redeemed Zoomer, I never would have converted to be a Protestant.
if it wasnt for Redeemed Zoomer, i would have gotten away with it
Same
8:25 "Jesus was clearly not a socialist, he fed people" 💀💀
made me laugh too lol
I'm stealing that.
Lmfao
☠️
I don’t get the joke here?? Socialism and feeding people have nothing to do with each other. Where is the problem?
ironically enough, Redeemed Zoomer was one of my first introductions into Orthodoxy. may God bless you both!
Glory to God!
Hope you intend to study more about the Ancient churches.
@@Kostas_Dikefalaios im being Chrismated into the Holy Orthodox Church next month, actually :)
@@yecksd Hallelujah! Welcome brother
Same here, amen!
Had a great time Kyle, would definitely love to do something like this again! Love the funny edits you added as well haha. Just one note for the audience, at 18:12 you show an example of a Presbyterian pastor saying Baptism doesn't save, but it shows that he's a PCA pastor. The PCA notoriously has a semi-Baptist view of the Sacraments. If you want the truly Calvinist view of the Sacraments, don't listen to PCA pastors, read the Scots Confession and Calvin's Geneva Catechism. God bless!
Yes! we will def do again in a few months. God bless!
@@OrthodoxKyleLike another comment said, it would be interesting if it was live so people can ask questions.
In fact, it seems dishonest to me to add texts, images and videos trying to refute your position, after the conversation is over. If you did the same thing to him, it would also look like he "lost" the argument. I really couldn't understand this, it's hard to justify. But if you didn't call, then that's okay.
@@OrthodoxKylejust a recommendation, I think it’s more honest to study the positions of the people you talk with to refute in person then add memes and refutations afterwards
@@stoievn1519 I have studied the position of others? "memes and refutations" I add memes in all of my videos.... This was casual conversation.. not bloodsports debate...
I know many sources: th-cam.com/video/44Iy5aCHQiQ/w-d-xo.html
These two are the ones that helped me the most. Redeemed zoomer got me into christianity at first and then Kyle got me into Orthodoxy. Seeing these two together is crazy.
Im glad they’ve finally had a collaboration.
Glory to God!
@@OrthodoxKyle Amen brother!
I’m an old guy, and later in life, I walked away from evangelical Protestantism and converted to Orthodoxy ☦️.
Glory to God!
@tubalcain6874 I´m catholic and thinking about converting to Orthodoxy. Just started to inform myself about it.
Why wasn't Christ and His word not enough for you? I'm interested in what grounds God didn't cover and why you decided to put your trust in traditions of men and recognize their authority over the authority of Christ and His word.
How did u get the sacraments and confession?
@@JulienBoekerhow’s it going? Update?
Never did I think the two men who brought me to Christ would talk it out like this. Truly an interesting conversation. God bless ☦️
Thank you (: God bless!
As a former calvinist (now Orthodox Christian ☦️), I AM SO HERE FOR THIS!!!
Same here
Dude literally same 😂 went from Presbyterian to orthodox
@@wyeetobandito5109 lots of Calvinists and Prots are converting.
@@wyeetobandito5109sameeee
Left one cult for another. SMH 🙄
Hey Kyle, another Christian Zoomer here. I've been watching your videos quietly as I look into the truth of Orthodoxy. I really appreciated the difference in tone and cadence that you took with this conversation. This conversation was really easy to follow.
Glory to the Triune God, and pray for me on my journey.
Come visit: orthodoxyinamerica.org/
Join discord if you have questions: discord.com/invite/wtqDsy4eVs
Do you think Jay Dyer is mean? Just curious.
@@t-rizzle0509. Lmao
@@t-rizzle0509 the meanest.
I feel so humbled that two young people are showing such leadership in coming together and having a grown up conversation about two very different Christo-centric experiences. The respect and humility you have towards each other, regardless of the events that brought you together, shows that there is so much hope. And for me personally speaking, that is exactly what Christ is; hope. Thank you both for such a wonderful hour and a half. God bless ✝☦
Glad you two had a conversation. I hope RZ looks more into Orthodoxy. ❤️☦️
Pray for him!
@@OrthodoxKyle Aye you're right enough I should do that, thanks for reminding me.
In 2020, my non-denom church had an Easter service streamed and we were told to grab anything we had in the house for communion. I realize now as an Orthodox catechumen how blasphemous and heretical that was. Lord have mercy on us.
Glory to God!
What do you mean ANYTHING? I'm Catholic and usually there are special prayers for when you cannot receive the Eucharist for one reason or another
Anything, for example, Oreos and coke. Literally, any items we had in the house could be used as the precious body and blood because ultimately they believed communion was just a symbol. @@eraimattei
My non-denom church would absolutely call that heretical, so be careful of that brush you're painting with, it's awfully wide.
@@calebneff5777 Well I never said all non denom churches do or say that.. I said MY church. So please be careful while reading comments before commenting yourself.
It's so interesting to listen to conversations about religion from people your own age instead of those from older generations sometimes, because while they do have wisdom and knowledge, it's refreshing to be able to relate :)
awesome! god bless!
Zoomer was debating, Kyle was dismissing. I like Kyle, but he was out of his depth here.
@@OrthodoxKyle Kyle???? Lowercase g????
Omg, how do u dareeee!!!??!!?? 😡😡
(Jk)
You had my subscription for about five minutes and then you lost it with your unfair, crappy subtitles
The edits are funny but also are poor form because Zoomer can't respond to them. He's a guest on your channel and should be treated with respect.
I edit all my videos with memes & sound effects. I treated him with respect but think of this
Option 1: I do not edit video at all... => People don't watch as long because they loose attention span => people are confused on the issue because they don't know response to what RZ is saying
or
Option 2: I edit the video (like all my videos) => people watch the video longer because it is more engaging with memes & music => I let RZ speak but correct him when is wrong so people are not confused and know the truth
@@OrthodoxKyle I understand your point but I still don't like it, I suppose if RZ knew that was how you were going to do the video then it's okay, though still not particularly fair or balanced.
I also suspect that I am not your target audience at all.
@@adavidavis2762 My audience is mainly zoomers looking into Orthodox Christianity... I debunk Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, Atheists etc etc.. check out my other videos.. I think you will like. God bless!
@@OrthodoxKyle “I edit all my videos [that way]” that’s not an excuse… you should learn to be respectful & not prideful & rude. ✝️
This was unexpected surprise but a welcome one ✝️☦️
The thing that broke me from leftism was abortion. Transgenderism also started to seem ridiculous when I looked into it further.
The gates of hell will never prevail against the orthodox church ☦️
I hate to tell you, but as much as I hate to admit, the gates (defensive mechanism) have not only prevailed, but are growing stronger in their defense where the gates are now open and their troops are gaining ground. Just being honest.
@@tcavalolearn to postmillennial eschatology
@@jakebarnes3054have learned pre-, mid-, post-, amill and preterism. These are really non issues
They did the moment you rejected the Filioque and Papacy.
@@baldwinthefourth4098 they prevailed against the catholic church the moment you added those things
This feels like a second Nick Fuentes VS Jay Dyer.
hahha
Kyle, your format of injecting immediate refutations and sound-bytes comes across as disrespectful. The implication of these edits is that you listen to refute - not to understand. This did not come across as a conversation to me, but rather as an attempt to undercut those who disagree with you at every turn. While Redeemed Zoomer acknowledged your points and charitably explored shortcomings of his tradition, you acknowledged nothing and came across as uncharitable. Honestly, I saw nothing gained for your channel except to regurgitate what you and yours already want to hear. I may not agree with Redeemed Zoomer on everything, but unity within the catholic Church is one where you and I seem to differ. May we both come to grow in one body into the Head which is Christ. Be blessed.
"mmediate refutations and sound-bytes comes across as disrespectful"
That is literally how I edit ALL my videos and interviews. I am guessing this is first video you have seen of mine...
"hese edits is that you listen to refute" All my videos are about debunking? showing Orthodoxy is true.
"not to understand. This did not come across as a conversation to me"
I would have had to constantly interupt him.. this was just a casual conversation. I understand his point but he is trying to boil down Christianity to lowest common denominator "just believe x" but Christianity is so much more! it is the Orthodox Church!
"explored shortcomings of his tradition," But I showed how that was wrong. Much of my audience is new to Orthdoxy and it would be DANGEROUS and irresponsible of ME to not show them the truth. it could confuse and that would be liable on my soul.
" you acknowledged nothing" acknowledged nothing????? what ? did you even watch the video? we discused some many topics
"ithin the catholic Church is one"
Roman Catholic Church is not one.. I used to be Catholic.. watch these: twitter.com/OrthodoxKyle/status/1654687207805034496
join discord: discord.com/invite/wtqDsy4eVs
God bless!
@@OrthodoxKyleyou just proved the point of the guy who wrote the comment. Why do you edit and respond like an annoying 10 year old know-it-all? Imagine everyone acted like this - noone would get to the truth because everyone would be so sure of their opinion and blinded by it!
Thank you came to the comments to say this. I had to just listen to the video and not watch at all cause watching it was unbearable and ruined the otherwise solid conversation between the 2 of them.
@@DopeMope i basically could not pay attention to redeemedzoomer because of the edit. i hope Kyle can recognize that, the edit was pretty annoying and kinda spoiled the entire video. Being defensive about that will do no good at all
@@OrthodoxKyleIt’s akin to the guy down the street yelling at people that theyre going to hell.
I think balancing entertainment while trying to share serious information is a difficult thing. So being open to criticism on your approach is very appropriate. You dont “need” to constantly interrupt him, you simply take turns discussing. This “need” comes from pride and impatience.
As an agnostic, it's so refreshing to listen to two enthusiastic Christian zoomers talk about their faith. In this day and age, it feels wholesome, even if I disagree about faith in God. I truly enjoy listening to you two 😊
Come visit a Church: orthodoxyinamerica.org/
you are invited! I used to be Athiest.
God bless!
These edits were done in bad faith. If you're truly on the side of truth, you shouldn't need a massive post-edit effort to bolster your side. Much respect to Redeemed Zoomer.
My same thought
Seems like he was too scared to respond in person and had to resort to edits. Pretty slimy lol
I wouldn't mind the edits if they were more respectful footnotes. It comes across like trying to dunk on RZ instead of just reflection. I don't know much about this guy though so I don't want to automatically assume his intent was bad.
Well, if he wanted a debate, organize it as a debate and Redeemed Zoomer would engage accordingly.
Instead he's claiming it's just a discussion, but then post-editing rebuttals on top. Like when people do response or reaction videos rebutting someone else's points.
Either have a debate and let the other side engage, or have a discussion and just talk, don't have a running caption saying "the other guy is actually wrong tho"
100% agreed. That is not behaving in a Christian manner.
This is epic! Love both channels. God bless you guys!
Damn, this might be one of the podcasts I actually have to watch cause of all the great edits you put in Kyle!
I edit all my podcast pretty well. Check out Orthocast!
I was thrilled to see this pop up on my feed. Such a great convo. God bless ☦️
ABSOLUTE CHADS. Super based guys, thank you both for the video. Christ pilled.
Eucharist >>>>>>>> red pill
Another banger Kyle! Very charitable conversation and give me a lot of hope for the young future of faith
Two legends, looking forward to this one 🔥God bless!
It’s so great to see two members of our generation spreading the Word on TH-cam.
Very distracting that you constantly put up memes and text whilst Reedemed Zoomer is talking to undermine his argument - if you want to undermine his argument you have to actually say those things you can’t retrospectively play noises and memes whilst he’s talking it’s kinda cheap
I was thinking exactly the same, a debate should be a conversation in which the audience decides who was most plausible. i thought that was very disrespectful, RZ would never do that on his channel
@@luanfernandes5838 watch any of my other videos. I do this in all my videos. Including my interviews (Orthocast).
I let him talk but I need to correct if he makes mistake so audience is not confused. God blless!
"actually say those things you can’t retrospectively play" then I would constantly be interuppting him? This is meant to be a conversation... Just correcting and showing the truth if he gets something wrong. God bless!
How DARE Kyle inform his audience of Protestant and Papal Protestant errors, doesn't he know we all would rather be blind sheep?
It's called rhetoric, by the way. It's a form of argumentation. Sorry if I informed you of that, but I figured you might need to know what that is; so you don't go around accusing people falsely. I leave it to you to Google the definition, since you seem to be against people defining simple things for you, as Kyle did through his memes, and highlighted articles.
@@OrthodoxKyle I totally get your point. If I could still add a suggestion though, I would at least leave the sound bites out in a discussion like this in the future. I think they would be good for a response video or something, but during a conversation like this it ends up coming across rude. The footnotes are completely fine, but just the "WRONG" every time he speaks gets a bit obnoxious. Great conversation though!
You, Pencils and Prayer Ropes, and Redeemed Zoomer have helped my faith so much. God bless y'all☦
I never thought that I would see this day. It's finally happened the great dialogue. ☦️
It was fun!
So great to see young people so passionate about their faith! It gives me hope that you will do more with the world than my generation.
I’d just like to thank you both for having a civil conversation and not interrupting one another.
Yeah, they were both very chill.
it was such a good discussion and I learned a lot from both sides
also kyle in his editing whenever Zoomer is speaking: WRONG WRONG WRONG
Yeah, Kyle seems petty invisible editing. Grow up and be honest about if you want a respectful conversation.
@@PrototypeGoose^ those “wrong” interruptions were so uncivilised. Like, come on. Be a decent Christian.
Great collaboration brother Kyle!
thanks! hope you are doing well. God bless!
What Redeemed Zoomer needs to realize about the human side and the divine side of the Church, is that much like Christ, this is in one hypostasis. He is flirting with a Nestorian ecclesiology. He also forgets that a fruit and sign of the Spirit is unity. Theologically and ecclesiastically. None of which is shared by Orthodox and RCC.
Well said!
Thank you Father!!
Before I began going to the nearby Orthodox church (OCA) I had this realization, I had to test out the line of argumentation, first, but using it made me become more confident in Orthodoxy. Raised non-denominational by my parents, became Lutheran in reaction to the fruit of the charismatic movement and am now Orthodox because of the fruit of the so called reformation.
Pray for Saint Mary's Cathedral in Minneapolis that we may prepare correctly for the attempted 2025 reunion and not fall in line with the papists.
@@ThumbKnuckle The 2025 what? 😳
@@lefroge6202 the ecumenical patriarch wants us to join hands with the roman church. I don't know how this will end.
Thank you Kyle and Redeemer Zoomer, you both are good young representatives for each faith. Loved the pace of the conversation and the respect showed for each other beliefs. Glory to God ☦!
You're an amazing communicator, Kyle. I'm a teenage prospecting convert and your videos have been super helpful for understanding the spirit of Orthodox theological concepts. Thank you. I hope God continues to bless your channel.
Come visit: orthodoxyinamerica.org/
God bless!
God bless you both
Thank you (:
Most GenZ debate ever, interrupting with memes.
This Kyle guy seems real childish lol
it was really great to hear you two talk. beeing a protestant myself i would love to visit an orthodox church sometimes. god bless you
orthodoxyinamerica.org/ Come visit! and read Rock and Sand! reach out if you have questions! God bless!
Awesome that we get to see you debate him. Huge fan of both of you!
Based and Christ pilled you guys are up there with my fav you tubers 🙏🏻❤️✝️☦️
Psalm 49 ☦️ Keep on preaching the truth my brother ❤ 🙏🏻
I strayed from the faith for a while.
Following my own whims and desires. Redeemed Zoomer brought me back to Christianity. Orthodox Kyle cemented me in the Orthodoxy. I can say I’ve never been so at peace for a while but it feels good to be back in the Pursuit of God
Glory be to God. Indeed I was lost and he guided me back to him!!!
Wow, this is edited in super bad faith. Why do you feel the need to undercut things he is saying by spamming memes over it? Especially when it's done after the fact, everyone knows that while speaking live you cannot perfectly think through what you're going to say. This is like when in the shower you think how you could've won that one argument- but you actually went and tried to edit the argument to strengthen your point. Also it's super ADHD, I can't concentrate.
yea sorta agree
Yeah. It’s disappointing that Kyle did this
Watched the whole thing and nothing was resolved. Only way to settle this is Kyle 1v1ing RZ in minecraft. Winner is part of the true church
haha
Both of these young men are VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE on the topics discussed. I commend them for their study habits and pray for truth to win out
you're a G, favourite Orthodox youtuber fr!
thanks!
another amazing video Kyle
thanks!
omg i have been waiting for this
Really glad you guys decided to do this. I definitely agree more with you Kyle and if you’re ever in Houston I hope we can hang out. RZ while I disagree with your theology you are very eloquent and I’ve sent your videos to secular or spiritual people alike as introductions to the faith because you have good breakdowns and I can’t expect everyone to just immediately accept Orthodoxy.
I remain of firmly Orthodox. However this has been great.
You guys have helped me so much on my way to Christ!!! Thank you very much!
Glory to God!
@@OrthodoxKyle Аминь☦️
I think conversations like this one, where both parties agrees on an explicitly stated end goal, and then discuss the methodology are a lot more fruitful and enjoyable.
just a friendly conversation. God bless
God bless you both! ☦️
I hope there are more of these to come with Redeemed Zoomer!
I remember an argument in a comment section where a guy converted from Catholicism to orthodoxy. A Protestant said
“You changed from Catholicism to orthodoxy? That’s like switching from coke to Pepsi” and the orthodox guy replied “No, it’s switching from tap water to spring water”
BOOOM
Hey what does that mean from tap water to spring water bro currently I’m a Christian raised Catholic looking at the Orthodox Church ! Any advice 🙏😎🫡👍✝️
@joseurrutia1877 do your research on papal infallibility and where you land on that topic will determine if you stay in catholicism or move to orthodox. Look at both sides arguments and maybe some neutral discussions also. Pray for guidance and wisdom too
@@joseurrutia1877
Tap water has Fluoride
Great to see that you zoomers could have a discussion of your differences and remain calm, showing respect to each other.
He is nice guy. pray for him!
God is still working and watching you youngsters knowing Jesus,gives me a hope.Loads of love and blessings to you both.
Me, a born and raised Orthodox Chtistian, may for the first time be seeing a cool neardy Orthodox guy ever. Kyle seems like a very cool guy. Redeemed Zoomer is amazing as well, amazing young preacher. Great conversation overall 😊
Thanks. God bless!
While I was never an atheist, I used to be a passive Catholic during childhood until my late teens. I flirted a bit with agnosticism during my early 20’s, but that was mostly because I had a perverted understanding of Continental philosophy, lol. Fast forward now that I’m in my early 30’s, I am still growing in my Christian faith, but I have confidence in myself and in God that I am firmly rooted in Christ. ❤ It’s amazing to hear both your conversion stories, the world needs more of you to inspire the next generation.
thanks, God bless!
Definitely agree with parts of what each of these men have to say, but redeemed zoomer takes the cake for me. Great to see Christian men playing a part in gen z, God bless.
Finally this collab happened this is great
7:13 Kyle drinking water out of beer mug
i do the same
@@donotdisturb275 cool
Plot Twist: It's 200 Proof Moonshine (Kyle is immune to alcohol)
After this long journey since February I'm finally getting baptized in September, took awhile because we got a new Priest from Constantinople and he has the Deacon finishing my Catechism. Glory to God ☦
Amazing ☦
I like to do chores and tasks as i "watch" youtube. I catch all the Oofs and Wrongs, but miss so much meaning & humor layered in the visual edits. Undivided attention for full class credit.
PS as a mom to a zoomer, i love gen z humor and media--so glad you two platform Christianity in the youtube sphere, i pray for you both.
I'm glad this conversation is happening, we need more people discussing these things across the borders of Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox! Even though Kyle's arguments did not convince me, and I found the edits to be annoying, he still had many good points, and he's doing good just publicly discussing this. Thank you for the video!
"Kyle's arguments did not convince me, "
Why not? read Rock & Sand by Fr Josiah Trenham annd come visit: orthodoxyinamerica.org/
"I found the edits to be annoying" I am guessing you are new viewer... Check out my other videos. always edit with memes & eveything.,...
" he still had many good points"
Thank you
"good just publicly discussing this. "
Yes, discussing is key! we want to get to truth! God bless!
It would be cool to see a Kyle vs Zoomer debate on evolution
maybe haha
Still so glad I left Protestantism for Holy Orthodoxy!
Two awesome TH-camrs. Great to see it.
What’s the difference
@@ethan-qm8guProtestantism is a joke, that's the difference
@@BuriedDimension how is it a joke explain
@@BuriedDimensionOrthodoxy is a joke faith saves alone as said in the Bible
@@BuriedDimension why are orthodox so arrogant..?
Great video fellas. You two have been instrumental in my journey from degeneracy to the Lord Jesus. Thanks ☦️
Oh God, two of my favourite TH-camrs together 🫠
i watched redeemed zoomer before watching kyle, now im a kyle supremacist.
zoomer convert to orthodoxy NOW
haha pray for him!
Jesus is all you need.
@@xHollow.which Jesus?
@@xHollow. The Mormon Jesus? The JW Jesus? Blavatsky's Ascended Master Jesus? The Islamic Jesus? The Urantia Cult Jesus? The Gnostic Jesus? The Nestorian Jesus? The Arian Jesus? Which one? All these heretical cults say "I just follow Jesus maaaan" ... That's not how it works
@@ThomasG_Nikolaj WELL SAID
Two absolute legends. I always learn a lot from watching both of them.
thanks!
Great discussion
Orthodoxy is always wins. Christ bless you☦️
God bless!
you and zoomer helped me decide orthodoxy was right for me. y’all are workers of the kingdom
Glory to God ☦☦ happy for you!
works dont save you jesus' work on the cross does
he died for all of our sins he didnt die for some of our sins he died for all of our sins
Jesus wasn’t socialist he fed people lol that was good
This video further solidified my belief in protestantism.
Thank you guys for the great discussion.
Nothing but love for my orthodox brothers.
solidified that it is wrong or right? these are good also: twitter.com/OrthodoxKyle/status/1686579162071678976
God bless
Hey guys. Another Christian Zoomer here. I'm from Türkiye and I was an ex-muslim atheist while I was in highschool. You both helped while I was searching for Lord. God bless you. 🙏
Unecessary edits.
The golden standard for "is this the same church" for me, and I would argue is logical for anyone really is:
"Does this official teaching corrupt the original gospel (the words of Jesus Christ as he lived and died for us) get corrupted to the point where you will be damned"
If it does teach that then we are not of the same church, so official Catholic teaching is a heresy and cannot be reconciled with any other Christian bodies for example.
We all agree to follow the word of God, if you don't follow the word of God (the teachings of Jesus Christ) then you are not Christian.
The old and new testament tells us all we need to know.
Was looking for a comment like this, 100% agree
My 2 favorite Zoomer Christian Channels talking?
CROSSOVER OF THE CENTURY!
I was lucky to be born and grow in a very Orthodox Christian country,România!
Here Orthodoxy is so embedded in our day-to-day lives,to the point where you can't separate Orthodoxy from the Romanian way of life!
Kyle,listening to you was such a pleasure for me and I think you represented Orthodoxy very well,it would be nice if you would have another debate Orthodox vs. Catholics,Protestants and Neoprotestants.
hilarious editing, didnt expect that... great video
thanks! check out my other videos! God bless!
As a former calvinist turned baptists, who is now a Catholic, this video was interesting! I hope you guys both come back to the true Church!
Haha seriously. I think they will. It will become more obvious who the true Church is once it gets worse
God bless Brother.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: every conservative Christian knows orthodoxy is the truth, but they were simply raised in different traditions.
We must bring Orhtodoxy to them!
but the filioque ...
@@planteruines5619 what about it? If we are being conservative then we should use the original un theologically changed creed that the Orthodox Church uses.
I guess I'm not a conservative Christian then, but I wouldn't really call myself too much of a liberal one either.
Truth
Great crossover
Found the edits very disrespectfull. If it was ment to be a debate why just not have one so the other party could defend his position. Very uncharitable.
I am guessing you are first time viewing....? I edit all my videos with memes & sounds.. go watch them?
"Very uncharitable." this makes no sense?? it is uncharitable to show the truth??? are you a Relativist??
All I did Is offer correction on screen. Nothing "disrespectfull" about the truth...
Lol I did not say that saying the truth is disrespectful, set aside the pride and look at the comment again.
@@OrthodoxKyle Its easy to "offer correction" when it goes unchallenged in the moment, thats a common atheist stunt. Might wanna work on the pride, as the previous comment noted.
@@dited358
how is it prideful to show people the truth??
"goes unchallenged in the moment" My audience is new to Orthodoxy. There is nothing wrong with correcting someone.. Why would I let me audience be confused if someone is teaching error??
Look in the mirror, That is insanse pride to think I should let someone teach error without correction?? so if I talk to a Muslim I should just let him preach his heresy without correction???
I never called you names..? sad you believe this...
@@OrthodoxKyle you: "all i did was show memes on the screen to make fun of how stupid his take is"
also you: "guys how am i disrespectful"
pick a side moron stop being a centrist own the fact you are edgy or dont just stop being lukewarm
you are trying to cry out in pain while striking someone
Why are most of you disagreements with Redeemed Zoomer displayed on the screen after the conversation as apposed to brought up during the conversing?
" brought up during the conversing?" what did I not bring up?
"displayed on the screen" I don't want peopel to be confused, when he says something wrong. Just showing correction.
Check out my ohter videos. God bless!
May God bless you both. Christ is King
thanks God bless!
11:05 OH MY you put the words out of my mouth on this, this is what I’ve been telling my fellas about! Great job putting this out!
Listening to the rest of the talk, Redeemed Zoomer doesn’t want to acknowledge the boundaries of the Church, yet it was a council of a Church that doesn’t resemble his church, that established and decided the canon of the New Testament. Council of Carthage to be exact. He quotes Timothy, but it is in Timothy, that we see the verse “the Church is the pillar and ground of truth”.
Furthermore, he doesn’t believe councils are guided by the Holy Spirit but then he categorically rejects the council of Jerusalem in Acts 15…he isn’t sure what he believes or why. He was a great guest though. Very civil.
Exactly 👆 I think he will come around with time. we must pray for him 🙏 maybe you two could do a stream haha
Kyle you gotta have this conversation live on stream. Maybe you did I just missed it.
ya, streaming would be better because people can ask questions!
As a former Calvinist, turned Atheist who converted to Hinduism and then Islam, now an Orthodox Christian who finally converted from Catholicism I enjoyed this. (jk tho)
I am protestant and interested in eastern orthodoxy i love listening to this discussion and it really helps me because it kinda helps me with questions for both denominations
definitely the best debate ive ever watched you 2 are very respectful even when you disagree
You guys should debate so then you could hold him accountable for some of the things he says. Great talk tho Kyle
found this guy out from ig, introduced me to a new friend group, and helped me get interested in the early church
It's actually pretty lame to edit this debate in your favor through memes and rebuttals post debate. I would debate you Kyle
I edit all my videos... why would I not correct someone if they are teaching error? This was not bloodsports debate but casual conversation... message me on discord / twitter if you want to debate.
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My journey started the same way, i met Christ because i had already seen the devil. Once you see it there's no coming back, and i was a hardcore atheist as well.
The new bookshelf background looks awesome.
thanks 💯 Greenscreen looks great
@@OrthodoxKyle green screen? You’re doing it all wrong, you gotta get the Jay starter kit 😆
Correcting the video after the fact with the benefit of Google and other resources, as opposed to voicing your concerns during the actual discussion is really distasteful in my opinion. I’ll just not look at the screen and let your arguments stand by themselves. It’s a shame Redeemed Zoomer doesn’t get this third wall-breaking ability to correct you and your points on this video. It’s like you added a refutation to it.
" really distasteful in my opinion." how is distasteful to correct and show the truth? are you a relativist? does truth not matter?
"opposed to voicing your concerns during the actual discussion is really distasteful in my opinion"
Each one of brought up 10-20 poiints each time we talked. If we discued EVERY point then video would be 10 hours long.. This was a casual conversation. Not a bloodsports debate??
I let him get his argument out, but just offered correct because MUCH of my audience is new to Orthodoxy? It would be wrong to confuse my audience.. Hope you understand. God bless!