vista pre service pack was actually a bitch it suffered quite a bit from infamous windows registry rot. It was also in the prime of PC manufacturers loading their PCs with bloatware Im not even mad though. Without vista id never have learned to fix computer issues
Windows Vista was a pain in the ass, i remember a friend of mine had a geforce fx5200, he installed fresh windows. After installing the drivers, he did get a Bluescreen. He fixed that issue, one day later Windows Update, crashed his system, we used restore point, fixed that also. And after installing the basic programs like Word, Antivirus and Nero the system become extremely sluggish. We thought in reinstalling windows without having Bluescreen and deactivating the Update which crashed the system, it gone be good, no same results. It was not only his system, mine system had also issues, my cousin system was a disaster, too many tiny issues. The biggest problem was sporadically working drivers. New printer, Windows Vista support installing everything, test print fine. Trying to print schoolwork, not working, my nephew printing some pokemons working fine.
Windows vista is just a product of innovation, by the time 7 was released, everyone got off of their bums and rewrote the drivers from scratch. Windows vista is pretty much the same as windows 7, kernel-wise, they changed the name and made it look a little different and tweaked a few things so they could re-market it after everyone went back to XP or stayed on XP because they heard vista wouldn't run on their slow (for vista) computers
"Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 5" is just the values of those particular flags as returned by the CPUID instruction. They pretty much just mean 'P6 Celeron', but I'm guessing that since the CPU is significantly older than the ones they'd expect a person with Vista to run, they don't have a mapping between those values and an actual CPU name in their database.
I realised that *XP* has the widest range of CPU identifier names in the system properties, but that older Intel CPUs are named in a different way to their more "modern" ones, with "processor" instead of "CPU", no (R) and an "odd" clock speed for some models, for example Pentium I to III are like: Intel Pentium processor 74 MHz, Intel Pentium MMX processor 199 MHz, Intel Pentium II processor 334 MHz, Intel Pentium III processor 996 MHz... compared with Intel Pentium (R) 4 CPU 3.00 GHz or Intel (R) Core (TM) i3-4370 CPU @ 3.80 GHz
*MJD:* *First Video:* We're cloning Win98 to an USB-Drive to install other OS's on the PC and quickly swap them out. *Followup Video:* We find out, that we can't boot from USB at all and wipe the hard drive. That's the content we love :D
I'm an IT tech at a school district and the student laptops are Chromebooks whereas the teacher laptops run Windows 10. The few remaining desktops in classrooms where also upgraded to W10, but it looks like they're rarely used. I graduated in late 2014 and it was quite a drastic change compared to when I was a student in that district.
Thank God I am no longer in school. They act like dictators when they run their computer system. What they didn't know is how in 2008, I cracked every single Active Directory password with my computer skills.
Very interesting! From my experience Windows 7 actually runs better on old computers than Vista does. Windows 7 will install and run on 512MB of RAM, but not great. I think a speed comparison between Vista and 7 on this computer would be interesting
Good question I tried xp on similar hardware and it wasn't pleasant hardly useable. Tried vista and it installed , was the shock and awe that got me when it actually ran vista and was useable at that. I have a video on my channel. It's called being mean to Windows Vista and a Pentium 2. Check it out .
I've installed Windows 8 Developer Preview on my Pentium III with 700 MHz and 512 MB RAM. The CPU did not like that :D But I've had a 128 MB VGA, so the screen resolution was beautiful.
The PLOP boot manager reminds me of the time I used it to install FreeBSD 4.x on an early Pentium system, in around 2000. The BIOS didn't support booting from CD, but it was possible to boot PLOP from a floppy disk first then tell it to boot from the CD. That saved me a huge amount of time.
I actually like vista. I bought a laptop running vista in 2007 which was full of bloatware making it very slow. however I reinstalled vista a few weeks later and it always ran really smoothly after that and I loved it. I think most of the hatred for vista stems from manufacturer installed bloatware and underpowered hardware.
Even a slight CPU upgrade helps a lot to bump up the overall performance with that Vista setup you've got here, combined with fluently working graphics adapter drivers.
I love windows Vista and 7. The very first computer my dad bought was a prebuilt with vista pre-installed. At the time it was a beast of a computer, it has an Athlon 64 (x2 I think) cpu, 4GB of memory, a 500GB HDD, and some type of Nvidia graphics card. I used to play the games that came with it like ink ball and minesweeper. I kept that computer and upgraded it by installing a better graphics card, 500GB SSD, and dual booting Vista and Ubuntu. Unfortunately, everyone else in my family stopped using that computer years ago, and I can’t justify anymore upgrades, the motherboard doesn’t support any higher end CPU, more RAM, or NVMe drives, makes me sad but those are fond memories
im actually amazed how he managed to sit through the entire setup while talking pretty much all the time. its rarely that i can ever sit through any setup and not talking in any meaning of the word
Looks like a bad memory module. OOooooppppsssss! Michael, this reminded me of the early days of my tech career. I am thinking that the install didn't like the fat32/16 format for Win 98. I love these videos! Keep them coming. : = )
That first boot screen brings back so many memories, when my Mom bought me my first computer back in the Summer of '09. It was an eMachines EL1200-07w, and when I hooked it all up and booted it up, that was the first thing I saw on screen, & that was the start of it all for me 12 years ago... My, how time flies.
Yes, please do some upgrades on this. A video card and the SSD you planned would definitely help. I'm guessing that's a socket-370? You could probably put a 550 or 733...
Dude, awesome video. Now get the graphics drivers installed from gateway restore disc, and download Firefox and Steam! I want to see how the modern web will perform on this. And it'd also be cool to see steam running on a Windows 98 era hardware!
For future videos on older systems that don't support USB booting try getting a Zalman ZM-VE350 it's an external enclosure that has an optical disc mode which works like a virtual ODD at the boot stage.
re the drivers... Vista has that amazing driver tool that windows ME had, where it can make you up a working driver with files from any version of driver ever as long as the filenames all match what its asking for
That will not work. The processor is way too old for that OS. It does not have the required instructions, and it is an x86 processor only. x64 operating systems will not work. The RAM won't do much good either.
@@cheeseisgud7311 Windows Server OSs from 2008 R2 and later do not have an x86 version. Windows Server 2008 original was the last server OS to have an x86 version.
Michael: I'll Install a very heavy and demanding version of Windows on hardware that does not meet the minimum required specs let alone was actually designed to run it. Positivo Computadores in the 1990's, 2000's, 2010's and 2020's: Hold my RAM.
I remember my friends PC having 256MB of ram, and I thought that was major overkill. Mine only had 160MB at the time. It originally came with 64MB of ram. (I bought a 128MB stick, and had 128MB+32MB in it) PC was AMD K6 366mhz (might of been 333mhz).
If anybody else is wondering, let me save you a bunch of time -- there is no such thing as "The $5 Windows 98 PC." He just found a Windows 98 PC at the thrift store for $5 once. Don't waste your time Googling to figure out what he's talking about.
I installed Windows Vista on a vintage laptop. I got it for my birthday because i always wanted a laptop to test things out with it. And it works perfectly fine! It didn't crash, its really stable, didn't lag, I loved it!
A very interesting video indeed. One thing that amazed me is that Vista was able to work with that ancient chipset, especially the graphics driver. But it leaves me wondering how this comp would perform on the internet with such limitations like processor speed? Would it just come to a stuttering halt?
Good rule of thumb in that era: 256mb per slot. (440BX supports 1GB, and with four-slot systems, Win98 will usually not have the 512mb limit.) But they can be very fussy about single-sided vs double-sided (that's an electrical thing, not a literal chips thing, tho often contiguous). That's probably what's going on with the stick it didn't recognize properly. 512mb SDRAM exists, but is very rarely seen. You can probably upgrade the CPU to P3-550MHz without problems, but if you're lucky it might support 600MHz or even faster. I have its twin in my basement and it has a P3-800MHz CPU. Wait, it's a Celeron? that's probably running with a 66MHz bus. Swapping it out for a P3 will up that to 100MHz or even 133MHz. (You'll need PC100 or PC133 RAM to take advantage of that, but it'll double performance. 256mb sticks are all PC100 or PC133.) If it's Slot1, CPUs faster than 550MHz are tough to find, but if it's Socket370, it may support a good deal faster. I enjoy maxing out hardware on these old systems... amazing what they can do when they're upgraded to their best possible specs.
I believe he used a set of 5 ISOs that originated from Microsoft themselves (Microsoft did make CD installation media available for Vista, but you had to request it)
Here I am, thinking that installing Vista and 7 on my 733 MHz Pentium III was interesting. I have this same exact computer, except it's the 400 MHz model. I'm going to have to try this.
I had to use PLOP a few weeks ago on my old laptop. When I cold booted to the CD, it would freeze when I click USB. But if I booted went into BIOS and just did a save and quit and had it reboot and then boot into CD it would work.
The processor being recognised as x86 Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 5 indeed means it is an Intel P6 architecture processor by Family 6, a Celeron processor of the Mendocino release by Model 6, and a 433 MHz variant by Stepping 5. This CPU information is obtained via the CPUID instruction built within the CPU, and since Windows Vista has a minimum requirement of an 800 MHz processor, it is possible that Windows Vista did not include the translation from raw CPUID to marketing name for a processor that it did not intend to run on.
I'm going to give you a tip for when computers just wanna give you trouble loading the OS. On a virtual machine (virtualbox) or another computer that allows you to install OS's easily install them, and as it first boots don't install anything, leave it empty, go to system32/sysprep and open the sysprep GUI, select Enter System Out-of-Box Experience (OOBE), mark up Generalize, and finally select shutdown, when the computer shuts down use Ghost32 to prepare a disk image. Now THAT image can be used in any pc no matter if it's intel or amd to install the OS, burn that image into the hard disk of the pc you want to use and it will pick up from the last part of the install process, it's yet to fail me and that process has revived many PC's that refused to boot otherwise, I have sysprep images for Windows XP, Vista and 7, it's so easy to use those images that now I just skip installing those systems normally (this can also be done for windows 8 and windows 10)
@@LovelyAlanna No need to go on camera or speak over the video. Just a video capture of the process running in a VM with a text commentary overlay would be perfectly fine. :) No worries if you don't want to, though.
Have you tried CloudReady? It's basically just ChromiumOS, but easier to install. Also, there's a cool transformation pack I saw the other day called Windows Vienna, for Windows Vista. Thanks!
I think he used a set of ISOs that was already split I did come across a set of 5 CD sized Vista ISOs, and the checksums indicate the ISOs originated from Microsofts servers Microsoft did actually make Vista available on CDs, but it was something you had to specifically request
I Remember doing this back in the day with a super old demon of a pentium 3, 768 mb's of ram and actually being able to use it if I did everything one at a time. Back when you could still get on the web with a pentium 3 with ease as well.
I don't know if this will make sense, but seeing the motherboard exposed like that made me suddenly remember the "computer smell," characteristic of 90s to early 2000's computers. I can't exactly describe it but it's a kind of mix between a kind of plastic smell, which was probably from the wires and data cables and a kind of sharp metallic scent which probably emanated from the motherboard and peripheral cards and their components. That smell isn't as potent with newer computers for some reason.
windows blackcomb is basically windows Vienna(they just changed the codenames) also it's basically vista×7 mix so Vista could run this easily and there won't be much except procedures
Regarding the conflict between Vista and 9x on the HDD, can you have your partitions formatted in different file sytems? Maybe NTFS has problems with FAT32. Or maybe is just WINNT which doesn't like DOS-based 9x versions.
That os will be the only chance to get this pc modernized...normal win 7 8 8.1 or 10 will be out of question... What about an adapter(ide to microsd) and a bottom of barrel pci video card ?
That's a good thought... There's also Win10Lite, but it's not really that much lighter than full Win10. Would be nice if someone would make a genuine TinyWin10 that doesn't sacrifice the ability to run Win10-specific software.
I suspect this PC doesn't have onboard SATA but you can probably buy a cheap PCI SATA card on eBay, connect a modern SSD, then boot Vista from that. Though you'll probably need to add the drivers from floppy in the initial Setup. The cards were often called RAID cards but you can disable the RAID part. From memory the Promise FastTrack 378 card works well. Also there should be Vista drivers for the onboard video. There might even be Windows 7 drivers for it. Given the system requirements for Windows 7 aren't much different to Vista it's worth trying to install that on it. Though you'll probably need to connect a DVD drive temporarily. Also the Windows 7 setup might complain about the 433 MHz CPU! Have fun :)
If you still have the pc, try installing some hardware accelerator software from the intel website, it really does help. I tried it myself and I think it improves graphic capabilities :D
I put windows 7 on a similar spec'd pc a while back. I got the graphics drivers to install with compatibility mode but it wasn't having the aero effects either so i stuck with classic mode for best performance. The pc had 833 mhz if i remember right and i did the same as you maxing out sdram at 512mb.
Also wouldn't mind seeing you use vlite and doing a slipstreamed install to get the footprint of the OS down to something more usable. I managed to get it down to about 140mb ram with no apps open back in the day.
If u go into windows experience index, and print report, atleast in windows 7, it will open a text file with really simple and detailed overview of the hardware, I remember I found that to be an easy way to see all details)
Interestingly, Vista released in 2006 barely loads up on machine from 1999-2000. No matter what you put inside - fastest PIII, SSD, Radeon / GeForce - it still would be a pain to use with Vista. By comparison, I was able to complete Far Cry 5 2560*1440 medium-high (35-40 FPS) on Q9650 + 8GB + SSD + GTX1050Ti and it is still very comfortable to use for daily tasks like web surfing or playing videos. That is maxed-out 13 years old machine. So PC's after Core 2 era ageing much slower than their ancestors.
Meanwhile, back when everyone had in between the minimum and recommended specs or way better specs, complains that they can't run Vista.
@Platyken Same here.
When Vista first launched I had a AMD Quad FX, with 4GB of ram and Vista ran just fine.
vista pre service pack was actually a bitch it suffered quite a bit from infamous windows registry rot. It was also in the prime of PC manufacturers loading their PCs with bloatware
Im not even mad though. Without vista id never have learned to fix computer issues
Windows Vista was a pain in the ass, i remember a friend of mine had a geforce fx5200, he installed fresh windows. After installing the drivers, he did get a Bluescreen. He fixed that issue, one day later Windows Update, crashed his system, we used restore point, fixed that also. And after installing the basic programs like Word, Antivirus and Nero the system become extremely sluggish.
We thought in reinstalling windows without having Bluescreen and deactivating the Update which crashed the system, it gone be good, no same results.
It was not only his system, mine system had also issues, my cousin system was a disaster, too many tiny issues. The biggest problem was
sporadically working drivers. New printer, Windows Vista support installing everything, test print fine. Trying to print schoolwork, not working, my nephew printing some pokemons working fine.
My computer runs Vista like a beast, it has 4 gigabytes of RAM. With the latest updates, it’s really stress-free.
Windows vista is just a product of innovation, by the time 7 was released, everyone got off of their bums and rewrote the drivers from scratch. Windows vista is pretty much the same as windows 7, kernel-wise, they changed the name and made it look a little different and tweaked a few things so they could re-market it after everyone went back to XP or stayed on XP because they heard vista wouldn't run on their slow (for vista) computers
"Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 5" is just the values of those particular flags as returned by the CPUID instruction. They pretty much just mean 'P6 Celeron', but I'm guessing that since the CPU is significantly older than the ones they'd expect a person with Vista to run, they don't have a mapping between those values and an actual CPU name in their database.
I realised that *XP* has the widest range of CPU identifier names in the system properties, but that older Intel CPUs are named in a different way to their more "modern" ones, with "processor" instead of "CPU", no (R) and an "odd" clock speed for some models, for example Pentium I to III are like: Intel Pentium processor 74 MHz, Intel Pentium MMX processor 199 MHz, Intel Pentium II processor 334 MHz, Intel Pentium III processor 996 MHz... compared with Intel Pentium (R) 4 CPU 3.00 GHz or Intel (R) Core (TM) i3-4370 CPU @ 3.80 GHz
Later CPUs have more Flags and wider Flags and ships their own Name in a separate Flag.
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*MJD:*
*First Video:* We're cloning Win98 to an USB-Drive to install other OS's on the PC and quickly swap them out.
*Followup Video:* We find out, that we can't boot from USB at all and wipe the hard drive.
That's the content we love :D
I grew up with Windows Vista and I still like it. Also, are you going to try Windows 7 next?
I am currently looking into it!
@@MichaelMJD I think it's gonna work, because Windows 7 is basically optimized Windows Vista and runs more smooth and faster
HardwareFahrrad Not really I had faster performance on windows vista
@@Leonard_MT Same
@@MichaelMJD go for Windows 7 Thin PC or Embedded
School computers be like:
This is what school computers are like:
Windows 10 x86 on 20 year old hardware. They do it to slow down students learning so they get an f
@kozi barabonki we have windows 10 and 7 and they fast
I'm an IT tech at a school district and the student laptops are Chromebooks whereas the teacher laptops run Windows 10. The few remaining desktops in classrooms where also upgraded to W10, but it looks like they're rarely used. I graduated in late 2014 and it was quite a drastic change compared to when I was a student in that district.
@@JJFlores197 why Chromebooks?
Thank God I am no longer in school. They act like dictators when they run their computer system. What they didn't know is how in 2008, I cracked every single Active Directory password with my computer skills.
Very interesting! From my experience Windows 7 actually runs better on old computers than Vista does. Windows 7 will install and run on 512MB of RAM, but not great. I think a speed comparison between Vista and 7 on this computer would be interesting
Not really true, Vista is actually faster.
@@Josh.Davidson Nope, not true.
It has been every time I tried it. The speed is about the same and in some cases Vista was quicker.
in my experience running vista and 7 in the same system, vista actually felt faster although I never did any scientific test.
I'm getting giddy just watching this! Good work mate!
Thank you!
@@MichaelMJD No problem. :)
@@FSM_ReviewsYou should remove one ram stick now that it's installed and see if it boots with 256mb..I bet it does.
@@beardsntools Hey did you mean to tag @MichaelMJD in your reply?
@@FSM_Reviews Yeah.. i thought I did..
I installed windows 7 professional 32bit onto a desktop with 512MB Ram and it ran..... ok...... but in your case, idk how the CPU will like that
Good question
I tried xp on similar hardware and it wasn't pleasant hardly useable.
Tried vista and it installed , was the shock and awe that got me when it actually ran vista and was useable at that.
I have a video on my channel.
It's called being mean to Windows Vista and a Pentium 2.
Check it out .
I have 2gb of ram windows 7 professional and so slow
compwiz878 I can’t see the bvid
I've installed Windows 8 Developer Preview on my Pentium III with 700 MHz and 512 MB RAM. The CPU did not like that :D But I've had a 128 MB VGA, so the screen resolution was beautiful.
@@pawankirpaul932 try win 10 ltsc 32bit
The PLOP boot manager reminds me of the time I used it to install FreeBSD 4.x on an early Pentium system, in around 2000. The BIOS didn't support booting from CD, but it was possible to boot PLOP from a floppy disk first then tell it to boot from the CD. That saved me a huge amount of time.
I actually like vista. I bought a laptop running vista in 2007 which was full of bloatware making it very slow. however I reinstalled vista a few weeks later and it always ran really smoothly after that and I loved it. I think most of the hatred for vista stems from manufacturer installed bloatware and underpowered hardware.
Even a slight CPU upgrade helps a lot to bump up the overall performance with that Vista setup you've got here, combined with fluently working graphics adapter drivers.
I love windows Vista and 7. The very first computer my dad bought was a prebuilt with vista pre-installed. At the time it was a beast of a computer, it has an Athlon 64 (x2 I think) cpu, 4GB of memory, a 500GB HDD, and some type of Nvidia graphics card. I used to play the games that came with it like ink ball and minesweeper. I kept that computer and upgraded it by installing a better graphics card, 500GB SSD, and dual booting Vista and Ubuntu. Unfortunately, everyone else in my family stopped using that computer years ago, and I can’t justify anymore upgrades, the motherboard doesn’t support any higher end CPU, more RAM, or NVMe drives, makes me sad but those are fond memories
7:11 why do I like the way he said DVD drive
He installed you
@@KSPAtlas that also works
@@KSPAtlas im special
me mum seys im spehhshull
SEY IT
im actually amazed how he managed to sit through the entire setup while talking pretty much all the time. its rarely that i can ever sit through any setup and not talking in any meaning of the word
Just so you know, vista aero needs 128mb vram to even show up for selection but you can always force it on through the registry editor.
Looks like a bad memory module. OOooooppppsssss! Michael, this reminded me of the early days of my tech career. I am thinking that the install didn't like the fat32/16 format for Win 98. I love these videos! Keep them coming. : = )
18:58 look at windows logo it cant display the ® its just a small white square
That first boot screen brings back so many memories, when my Mom bought me my first computer back in the Summer of '09. It was an eMachines EL1200-07w, and when I hooked it all up and booted it up, that was the first thing I saw on screen, & that was the start of it all for me 12 years ago... My, how time flies.
Awesome video,Michael!
Thanks!
Yes, please do some upgrades on this. A video card and the SSD you planned would definitely help. I'm guessing that's a socket-370? You could probably put a 550 or 733...
Dude, awesome video. Now get the graphics drivers installed from gateway restore disc, and download Firefox and Steam! I want to see how the modern web will perform on this. And it'd also be cool to see steam running on a Windows 98 era hardware!
1 year aniversary of this video. such poggers. and oh, you have very young viewers, like me!
As always, brilliant video. Keep up the great ideas and videos!
Thank you!
For future videos on older systems that don't support USB booting try getting a Zalman ZM-VE350 it's an external enclosure that has an optical disc mode which works like a virtual ODD at the boot stage.
re the drivers... Vista has that amazing driver tool that windows ME had, where it can make you up a working driver with files from any version of driver ever as long as the filenames all match what its asking for
Let's see those upgrades! That would be awesome
It'll probably take a Pentium 3 if I'm not wrong
22:10 You could've clicked Device Manager in collum Tasks
Try to go to Windows Server 2019
That will not work. The processor is way too old for that OS. It does not have the required instructions, and it is an x86 processor only. x64 operating systems will not work. The RAM won't do much good either.
@@tboneanimatetwoaccount2094 there is an x86 edition for it.
Ooh...
@@GuilhermeHuertaeSilva but the ram can't even hold the graphics textures
@@cheeseisgud7311 Windows Server OSs from 2008 R2 and later do not have an x86 version. Windows Server 2008 original was the last server OS to have an x86 version.
@ Michael MJD
That motherboard can easily handle a Pentium 3, which are dead cheap on Ebay and Amazon. A P3 800mhz would work great!
Nice experiment, did you try with a ssd?
The Vista experience
I forgot to add that you need a pci sata host card
Michael: I'll Install a very heavy and demanding version of Windows on hardware that does not meet the minimum required specs let alone was actually designed to run it.
Positivo Computadores in the 1990's, 2000's, 2010's and 2020's: Hold my RAM.
I remember my friends PC having 256MB of ram, and I thought that was major overkill.
Mine only had 160MB at the time. It originally came with 64MB of ram. (I bought a 128MB stick, and had 128MB+32MB in it)
PC was AMD K6 366mhz (might of been 333mhz).
Your original 64mb, 333mhz machine had the exact same specs as a psp3000.
I love old stuff. I installed windows 7 on a machine from 1999 and it actually ran ok, besides for the drivers lol
I think that Windows Longhorn will be interesting to install on the 5 dollar 98 PC.
If anybody else is wondering, let me save you a bunch of time -- there is no such thing as "The $5 Windows 98 PC." He just found a Windows 98 PC at the thrift store for $5 once. Don't waste your time Googling to figure out what he's talking about.
I installed Windows Vista on a vintage laptop. I got it for my birthday because i always wanted a laptop to test things out with it. And it works perfectly fine! It didn't crash, its really stable, didn't lag, I loved it!
Windows Vista will keep getting Better and Better
2:27 Nobody noticed the Monorail keyboard.
8:39 looks better than original vista setup background
I’m not sure if you have done a video featuring to install Windows server 4.0, that would be good to see.
A very interesting video indeed. One thing that amazed me is that Vista was able to work with that ancient chipset, especially the graphics driver. But it leaves me wondering how this comp would perform on the internet with such limitations like processor speed? Would it just come to a stuttering halt?
Good rule of thumb in that era: 256mb per slot. (440BX supports 1GB, and with four-slot systems, Win98 will usually not have the 512mb limit.) But they can be very fussy about single-sided vs double-sided (that's an electrical thing, not a literal chips thing, tho often contiguous). That's probably what's going on with the stick it didn't recognize properly.
512mb SDRAM exists, but is very rarely seen.
You can probably upgrade the CPU to P3-550MHz without problems, but if you're lucky it might support 600MHz or even faster. I have its twin in my basement and it has a P3-800MHz CPU.
Wait, it's a Celeron? that's probably running with a 66MHz bus. Swapping it out for a P3 will up that to 100MHz or even 133MHz. (You'll need PC100 or PC133 RAM to take advantage of that, but it'll double performance. 256mb sticks are all PC100 or PC133.) If it's Slot1, CPUs faster than 550MHz are tough to find, but if it's Socket370, it may support a good deal faster.
I enjoy maxing out hardware on these old systems... amazing what they can do when they're upgraded to their best possible specs.
I had an Essential 400c, and if I remember correctly, it'll support Katmai, Coppermine, and Coppermine T CPUs (but not Tualatin).
Other ppl: 32GB RAM IS NOT ENOUGH!!
Mjd: YEAH! WE GOT 512MB
512MB was a lot back in the day and 32GB of RAM is enough. 16GB is the minimum RAM that’s actually decent to this day
How did you split the Vista ISO over to multiple CDs?
I believe he used a set of 5 ISOs that originated from Microsoft themselves (Microsoft did make CD installation media available for Vista, but you had to request it)
That background music is Jobby The Hong approved!
Back in 2012, I had a Windows 98 system that I wanted to upgrade to Vista(even though XP ran horribly).
RU: Теперь попробуйте Windows Longhorn на $5 ПК с Windows 98
EN: Now try installing Windows Longhorn on the $5 Windows 98 PC
Mace Cail that’s really hard to do (get a legit longhorn copy)
Longhorn is before vista, it would be easier
he has a longhorn ISO so it would probably be easy
Here I am, thinking that installing Vista and 7 on my 733 MHz Pentium III was interesting.
I have this same exact computer, except it's the 400 MHz model. I'm going to have to try this.
The nostalgia i have for this os❤
I had to use PLOP a few weeks ago on my old laptop. When I cold booted to the CD, it would freeze when I click USB.
But if I booted went into BIOS and just did a save and quit and had it reboot and then boot into CD it would work.
@Samuel Chertoff It's a boot manager that allows you to boot from usb on machines that don't support usb boot
Reminds me of the time I ran Windows Vista on my Pentium II 400 MHz Compaq. That was a fun video.
I really like this video! Keep them coming. : = )
Thank you!
You can upgrade the processor too
Right?
So it matches with the system requirements
MJD videos are better than therapy
23:10 Windows Aero is found in Windows Color and appearance?🤔
That low color mode setup screen reminds me of the old Solo cup design.
For another video, could you maybe try to install/run in livemode the latest possible version of Ubuntu to see how it runs?
The processor being recognised as x86 Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 5 indeed means it is an Intel P6 architecture processor by Family 6, a Celeron processor of the Mendocino release by Model 6, and a 433 MHz variant by Stepping 5. This CPU information is obtained via the CPUID instruction built within the CPU, and since Windows Vista has a minimum requirement of an 800 MHz processor, it is possible that Windows Vista did not include the translation from raw CPUID to marketing name for a processor that it did not intend to run on.
This man is druaga1 but the lack of weed
8:39 not what I expected
Windows Vista lol
If there is an XP driver for the graphics, you can force install those for better performance and resolution changing Michael
Also if it's a Slot 1 system, you can install a Slocket and put a 1GHz+ PIII in it... also Win 7 real life min specs are the same a vista
Yeah I have to verify what chipset the motherboard is using but I am looking into a CPU upgrade currently!
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Great video!
You should try Windows 2000 (Korean). You can find the ISO in WinWorldPC.
I'm going to give you a tip for when computers just wanna give you trouble loading the OS.
On a virtual machine (virtualbox) or another computer that allows you to install OS's easily install them, and as it first boots don't install anything, leave it empty, go to system32/sysprep and open the sysprep GUI, select Enter System Out-of-Box Experience (OOBE), mark up Generalize, and finally select shutdown, when the computer shuts down use Ghost32 to prepare a disk image.
Now THAT image can be used in any pc no matter if it's intel or amd to install the OS, burn that image into the hard disk of the pc you want to use and it will pick up from the last part of the install process, it's yet to fail me and that process has revived many PC's that refused to boot otherwise, I have sysprep images for Windows XP, Vista and 7, it's so easy to use those images that now I just skip installing those systems normally (this can also be done for windows 8 and windows 10)
Maybe you or Michael could do a video on this.
@@zoomosis I look horrible on camera, and I strongly dislike my voice, but more people should know about sysprep not gonna lie
@@LovelyAlanna No need to go on camera or speak over the video. Just a video capture of the process running in a VM with a text commentary overlay would be perfectly fine. :) No worries if you don't want to, though.
2:50 Just letting you know that this display has one dead pixel near the right bottom corner.
Nice Monorail keyboard you have there.
11:47: 0x80070070 means there isn't enough disk space to install Windows.
Is the PC a Slot 1 or a Socket 370?
Depending on the mobo, you can get 1GHz+ Pentium 3
You didnt expect me here, did you? Oh...you did? Well, carry on.
Windows vista Ram requirement = iPod shuffle 1G RAM
I can confirm that Windows 7 runs on 512MB of RAM, i once ran it on a machine with 512MB and a 900Mhz CPU, it ran terribly, but it did run.
MJD can you upgrade the pc with a new graphics card?
*reads title* YOU WHAT?!
7:01. Hey! I have that same mousepad! Got it from my parent's workplace a while back.
Have you tried CloudReady? It's basically just ChromiumOS, but easier to install. Also, there's a cool transformation pack I saw the other day called Windows Vienna, for Windows Vista. Thanks!
Where did you get the iso that you split into parts, and how did you split it into parts?
I think he used a set of ISOs that was already split
I did come across a set of 5 CD sized Vista ISOs, and the checksums indicate the ISOs originated from Microsofts servers
Microsoft did actually make Vista available on CDs, but it was something you had to specifically request
4:18 if yoo doo not know the true capatity of the module, why not just trying it alone? It prevents complications and compatibility problemz
I Remember doing this back in the day with a super old demon of a pentium 3, 768 mb's of ram and actually being able to use it if I did everything one at a time. Back when you could still get on the web with a pentium 3 with ease as well.
Why don't you try to install the XP drivers for the graphics card? It might work in the compatibility mode.
Poor Windows 98 PC. It didn't deserve that.
Still the most beautiful Windows ever.
Until u play solitaire
**bsod**
I’d love to see that PC run Windows 7. I’m pretty sure it’s possible to do, too.
5:20 i think that pc support usb booting, but older pcs recognize usb drives as hard disks
I don't know if this will make sense, but seeing the motherboard exposed like that made me suddenly remember the "computer smell," characteristic of 90s to early 2000's computers.
I can't exactly describe it but it's a kind of mix between a kind of plastic smell, which was probably from the wires and data cables and a kind of sharp metallic scent which probably emanated from the motherboard and peripheral cards and their components.
That smell isn't as potent with newer computers for some reason.
You should make a video trying to run different versions of windows with a pc meeting only the minimum system requirements
I miss IDE drives lol! The cables started getting fancy colors in the late 00's!
Windows Vienna when
EclipseTrips I agree
@Labelz I AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I said in another awnser.
windows blackcomb is basically windows Vienna(they just changed the codenames)
also it's basically vista×7 mix so Vista could run this easily and there won't be much except procedures
Good knowledge and work. Sinceres salutations to hansome US man from Morroco.
17:53 information about vistas
damn
Regarding the conflict between Vista and 9x on the HDD, can you have your partitions formatted in different file sytems? Maybe NTFS has problems with FAT32. Or maybe is just WINNT which doesn't like DOS-based 9x versions.
I think the installer can't find the files for Windows Vista because it is looking on "C:" where Windows 98 is installed.
What about Tiny7?
That os will be the only chance to get this pc modernized...normal win 7 8 8.1 or 10 will be out of question...
What about an adapter(ide to microsd) and a bottom of barrel pci video card ?
That's a good thought...
There's also Win10Lite, but it's not really that much lighter than full Win10. Would be nice if someone would make a genuine TinyWin10 that doesn't sacrifice the ability to run Win10-specific software.
@@Reziac that's impossible dude, even the litest Win 10 there's no way you can even run the setup
Just watched a vid where someone stuffed Win10 into a P2-400MHz laptop, by way of a USB boot... it was ugly, but it ran. Slowly.
Wtf how? Can you send me a link?
I suspect this PC doesn't have onboard SATA but you can probably buy a cheap PCI SATA card on eBay, connect a modern SSD, then boot Vista from that. Though you'll probably need to add the drivers from floppy in the initial Setup. The cards were often called RAID cards but you can disable the RAID part. From memory the Promise FastTrack 378 card works well.
Also there should be Vista drivers for the onboard video. There might even be Windows 7 drivers for it. Given the system requirements for Windows 7 aren't much different to Vista it's worth trying to install that on it. Though you'll probably need to connect a DVD drive temporarily. Also the Windows 7 setup might complain about the 433 MHz CPU! Have fun :)
I once ran Vista on a laptop with 256 mb of ram, I installed it on a laptop with higher ram and then swapped the drive over. It was slow.
If you still have the pc, try installing some hardware accelerator software from the intel website, it really does help. I tried it myself and I think it improves graphic capabilities :D
What does that software do?
I put windows 7 on a similar spec'd pc a while back. I got the graphics drivers to install with compatibility mode but it wasn't having the aero effects either so i stuck with classic mode for best performance. The pc had 833 mhz if i remember right and i did the same as you maxing out sdram at 512mb.
Also wouldn't mind seeing you use vlite and doing a slipstreamed install to get the footprint of the OS down to something more usable. I managed to get it down to about 140mb ram with no apps open back in the day.
I now have my Dell Precision m4500 configured to dual boot Windows 10 and Windows Vista. To me, I think Windows Vista has the best looking interface
If u go into windows experience index, and print report, atleast in windows 7, it will open a text file with really simple and detailed overview of the hardware, I remember I found that to be an easy way to see all details)
Vista was the first OS i bought myself. It looked so cool to me but it was problematic still good though 😃
i have the same gateway pc and it still works. i just bought my wife a new gateway laptop and its solid i love gateway.
Interestingly, Vista released in 2006 barely loads up on machine from 1999-2000. No matter what you put inside - fastest PIII, SSD, Radeon / GeForce - it still would be a pain to use with Vista.
By comparison, I was able to complete Far Cry 5 2560*1440 medium-high (35-40 FPS) on Q9650 + 8GB + SSD + GTX1050Ti and it is still very comfortable to use for daily tasks like web surfing or playing videos. That is maxed-out 13 years old machine. So PC's after Core 2 era ageing much slower than their ancestors.