EMG Marty Friedman VS Revelation VS DMF SHOOTOUT!!
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- A triple EMG Signature set shootout! We do a comparison demo of the Marty Friedman, Revelation, and DMF sets from EMG. The Marty Friedman, Revelation and DMF are all passive pickups, but each has their own distinct tone and feel.
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MF - REV - DMF
Bridge 0:12 - 1:21 - 2:31
Neck 0:54 - 2:03 - 3:13
Thanks, Rob!
Bladerunner rules! I think I’m going to order the rev set. Thanks for the video brother.
Thank you! Great review!
Thanks for checking it out!
Kinda off topic, but I like how you furnished your studio. In particular the lighting, it's very pleasant to the eyes.
Thanks!
Wow, great playing! I'm subscribing... Looking in to the h4s now I'm leaning towards the rev. Thanks 👍
Thanks, Shayne! I'm using the Rev a lot these days. Really Gorgeous.
Really dig that Budda alter. Thanks for the work of comparing these.
Thanks Kevin. Glad you got some use from the shootout.
That's so cool you're still playing Schecter stuff! Great video, and great tones. I liked all 3 tbh.
Watching this makes me wonder, what are some of your favorite pickups? I've played a lot more guitars since I last commented on your Apocalypse Bass demo, and I still can't find anything as awesome as those pickups.
The Apocalypse pickups are hard to beat. What i've been using lately though are EMG X series. I've got a shootout on them for bass coming up. Depending on the project I go for a PJ set or PP set. Thanks for the good word on the video, and visiting the channel again!
Super good video. Definitely enjoy the layout. I own the MF and I love them. I'm about to get the DMF next after this video.
Very cool, I think you'll enjoy them.They have a lot of muscle and are a bit broader than the Friedman set.
Amazing demo!!!
Thanks!
This has to be the best pickup demo I've ever seen. One thing seldom discussed in demos is the feel of a pickup. It's extremely important but gets glossed over by discussions of the tone. The two go together. I haven't tried any of these sets, but I have owned a lot of active EMG sets over the decades, and I've been using EMG since 1986, so I'm no spring chicken when it comes to these pups. But I've never tried their passive pickups. I've been curious. I've been leaning in the direction of the Friedman set and this demo convinced me it may be the way to go. But I'm curious about all three sets. The characteristic that's the hardest to find in pickups is clarity. This is why I've been such an 81 stalwart for all these years. I still love it. But I wanted to see what EMG can do with passive technology. It looks like they're on the right track. What I like about passives is the feel. It's not that you can't get a good feel out of the right actives, but I do find they can feel a bit compressed at times. If I can achieve the tone and feel of actives in passives than I need to give it a try.
Nice. I have all 3. Revelation in a Gibson Les Paul, Marty Friedman in a Gibson Flying and DMF in a ESP LTD SA2
Very cool! they are all killer in their own way.
What are your thoughts on them
Rodney is pretty much on point. His comparison is more accurate cause he used the same guitar, whereas I have them in 3 different style guitars. Cool thing is with EMG solderless system, they can easily be swapped.
I find the Rev set actually brightened up the Les Paul and added more bite and clarity. I would like to think of it as putting a Boss SD1 in front of a gain amp. It just adds a slightly more punch.
The Friedman in the Flying V provides a smooth and well rounded sound.
The DMF in my ESP is probably my favorite. I also think it’s the most versatile. You can set it up and play any style from punk to rock to metal. It has a very tight and response bottom, which is why I prefer. It could be due to the additional poles in the pickup. Really dig the sound DMF.
Out of the three which set would you say is the most versatile? I’m doing an es 335 upgrade and I play a lot of Metallica type stuff, grunge and heavier punk. I appreciate a good clean sound too. I was looking into one of these sets over the h4/h4a combo. What would you recommend?
Thanks for this. I’m going to try a set of Revs. Have a Charvel that came with Duncan Distortion bridge and neck.
My preference is Revelation...then DMF and then the Marty Friedman...it stood out a little more to me
It does have something special going on in the mids
Great video. I have the Rev set , absolutely love them. I would like to try out the MF set . The DMFs sound to me like they world be Suited towards a heavier sounding metal
It's funny, the DMF were made for a punk guy! The DMF and Revelation are pretty close to each other in overall EQ curve. The DMF is just a little more edgy and has less mids in the 500k area. Thanks for checking it out!
I have an ESP EII Eclipse that came with EMG 57/66 set and while I love the compression you get with active pickups on bass, I struggle with that reduced dynamic range on guitar. The benchmarks for tight aggressive rhythm guitar tone for me that I go for on that instrument are Hetfield circa Justice/Black Album and Dimebag circa Far Beyond Driven, but I find myself yearning for more punch/attack/dynamic than I can achieve with active EMGs or "rails" design passive pickups like the L500XL. Are there specific passive EMG designs you might recommend based on this? It would be nice to keep with the EMG aesthetics as the whole guitar is cosmo black hardware and the brushed black chrome EMGs just really look gorgeous with everything else. Love your channel, cheers 🍻
My current favorite is a hybrid, and doesn't have the metal cover unfortunately. I'm using the Hot 70. It's a passive attatched to an active base. It has the extended passive thickness, but agressive as hell. Maybe that would work for you. Thanks for checking out the video.
I use 81 in the bridge but I play with low gain, pointing to the LED indicator on my 6505 but the volume I crank it to the 12 o'clock and going directly into the amp without anything. Works for me for tight busy riffs and open strums when hitting power chords or open chords.
See if that helps.
Are they naturally that boosted in the 500Hz area? They sound super barky - in a good way. I'm considering this for a varied tone to add to my array for studio work.
Which pickup are you referring to?
Hey man! Great video! I'm thinking about buying the rev set. One of my guitars produces a lot of noise and hum (not the wiring) do you think the EMGs would help? The active ones are almost noiseless. How is the Rev set? Are they as noisy as passives? Or they are more like active pickups in that regard?
Thanks!
I haven't found a noisy set of EMGs, so I think you're all good. The Revs sound really great.
Great video! I play with an emg 81 in the bridge. How do these 3 compare to the 81? Is there one that's especially close? Thank you.
The Friedman is closest, but still going to be different. Passives will have much more low end and less compression.
I honestly could not hear a difference with the small exception the revelation sounded a tad stronger than the other two. It would be more interesting to hear them live unprocessed across 3 different amps with all setting set at noon, as well as a clean section.
So the neck pickup on the Revelation set is listed at 13.8k (which is a little hotter then the bridge at 13.5k), just wondering if you swapped the 2 positions would there be a noticeable difference, or are they voiced particularly to the neck and bridge position. I am going to order a set and only plan to use one in the bridge, so looking for opinions or suggestions on which one? Thanks
Also, thanks for the comparison video. I was debating on the Revelations and the MF’s. I am digging the sound of the Revelations. They seemed to have more clarity.
I'm sure the sound would be different as they have different voicings, not just output. Interesting experiment though. I may have to do it. Since it's a quick connect, I would say try both. It's an easy swap. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts. Glad the video helped.
One more Q. Whats the general EQ like on the DMFs?
Hopefully you will respond. So I have been eyeing the DMF for a while now. I thinking of installing them in a schecter E-1 prototype. Now I normally would have put a emg 81/60 in there but it came stock with passives and it would be a pain to make everything fit most likely having to resort to installing a battery compartment. Now would you say the DMF would be good for metal? I like the tightness of the 81. Thanks
I don't know that I would go with the "good for metal" description as everybody has a different thought on what that means. There's a lot of different metal tones! And I don't know if you noticed, but I was playing metal with it 😂 It's definitely got good output, and what will be the most different will be the mount of lows you get vs a 81. 81s and 85s are high and low passed pretty heavily, and won't be as deep as the DMF. It has much more chunk to my ears. If you are looking for the closest of the 3 to an 81, it's going to be the Freidman. It's extremely dry, and very focused. If you want something bigger / with more frequencies present you want the DMF or Rev set. Hope that helps.
@@RodneyMcG helped a lot. Thanks
If you can.... I recently picked up the MF and REV sets. Can you offer a suggestion regarding what you feel may work in a 24.5" scale and a 25"? Both mahogany w/ trem. Good news is it's pretty easy to switch, I just thought I would reach out. Thanks for putting this up.
There's a lot of variables in between those 2 guitars, but I would basically look at it in do you want more of an active tight sound like the Friedman, or a more open passive feeling one which would be the rev. Good luck, hope it works out.
I have a ser of Marty Friedman pickups in a Gibson flying V, and a set of the DMF in a Gibson SG. I really like both, and find them highly usable for most of my playing. That said, I like the Friedman pickups for more solo and harmonic tones. I like the DMF for those dirty riffs, and 70's style metal. If I could only have 1 set I would probably go with the DMF, but I would place the Friedmans a very close 2nd. Just my opinion
I agree on all points
Great video. Already have the revelation set. Considering the mf set but now I'm considering the dmf set 🤔
Is it possible to buy just the Friedman bridge model? I've been looking and can only find it in sets.
I haven't seen them single either. I'll bet if you emailed EMG they would do it.
@@RodneyMcG Yeah, I'll have to try that when the guitar comes in.
You really do a great job. Love your professional take. What about Eddie Jackson from Queensryche? Great player. Thanks
Thanks! Definitely going to feature EJ in the future. One of my favorites!
His new work on the Verdict is simply exceptional.
I would agree!
What PAF would you recommend for modern metal with deep crunch for rhythm low drop tuning. I'm looking into using my schecter diamond series as my drop tune studio guitar specifically for rhythm and having trouble choosing a PAF pickup that will give me the modern low end crunch I'm looking for. Any recommendations be greatly appreciated
Hmmm. I don't know if I would necessarily go for PAF on something seriously dropped. Most will have a thick center mid focus that might cloud up an already difficult sound to manage. If you're not opposed to actives, I would look at the X series EMGs. They have more headroom and clarity than the regular series. A 85x has an alnico magnet, so it will be closer to a PAF style, but with the benefits of mild compression and upper mid cut to help keep a low tuning clear.
@@RodneyMcG Thank you for the help. I've never installed active pickups. Would I have to cut a insert in the guitar for the battery pack
Sure. Not likely. You can usually fit a 9v in the control cavity. Just give it a little cushion if it's right on top of a pot, etc. You can test it ahead of time by just opening it as it is now, and see if you can get a battery to fit with the current wiring.
@@RodneyMcG Awesome, Thank you so much. Im going to go for it and slap the x series in. I just can't get the mids I'm looking for with the PAFs I've tried . Greatly appreciated
Good luck!
For people that cant hear a diff thru the mix heres my 2c after listening to the guitars only: They reflect the respective musician playstyle, MF is a shredder and those are really tight, LF set has that thick rythm growl and while I dont know anything about PA they sound closer to the MF set to my ears. Pretty much what the man said in the video ;) Thank for the shootout I was contemplating about what passives from EMG should I get cause I like the easy solderless connections.
Glad it helped, and your perception is dead on. I wound up favoring the DMF and Rev set. They actually compliment each other really nicely as a stereo pair
Good Review!! Thanks. I have the MF's and agree and more. They are definitely not one trick ponies. You sold me on the DMF's. More $$ on it's way out.
Nice! The MF are definitely different than I was expecting, but in a cool way. Drop in when you get the DMF and tell me how they worked out for you.
@@RodneyMcG Will do. ....but gotta say...when I first heard these demo'd... I didn't like the tone (artist performed -yikes-), but your performance was what I needed to see, thanks!!
Thanks! Glad it helped.
Good God the Revelation set was truly a revelation, the MF set comes second for me.
I would agree. I bought 2 more Rev sets!
The marty Friedman set is my favorite out of the three as soon as I heard it I've been trying to find a guitar to put them in and they're on my waiting list between the fishman moderns, duncan invaders, and the lace drop n gains
Very cool selection there! A money saving suggestion, just grab a 18/85 set of emgs used and you'll be fine without the D and Gs😉
Rodney McG fair enough, been talking my guitar player into a set of emgs to replace the stock pickups in his mij jackson kelly
He may dig one of these 3 then! On a side tip - you'd be surprised how many pickups from major builders are barely altered 81/85 sets. That combo is so popular, most companies copy it to have their version and pretending it's a new design. What cracks me up is when a new "it" pickup becomes en vogue, I get a set and it's almost always just a EMG copy, and everybody has convinced themselves it's something new!
Rodney McG emg make a damn fine pickup, of course everyone wants to copy a good design especially like the emty blackouts from Seymour duncan sound suspiciously close to the emg het set
@@woofystevenson2943 Definitely. I do always get a good laugh when i see guys piss all over that set and then get one of these new ones and say it's the greatest thing ever, and i know they can't really hear a difference 😂😂 BTW - one of the others on your list is a slightly modified, but much more expensive version as well 😉
I have the Marty Friedman set and the tone is insane! I play through a Marshall DSL and boost it with a Maxon OD808. They are the best pickups I’ve played in the last 14 years. They cut through and they are thick sounding without getting muddy. The clarity is amazing!
They are tight as hell, no doubt
Rodney can You please do a test on the new Frank Bello Sig set?
I've got more coming up from EMG soon, i'll see what i can do!
I always heard the MF set was EMGs version of the Duncan JB/Jazz set. Thoughts?
I see no resemblance. They are way more tight and focused. I would compare them more to a passive version of a 81
I kind of make that comparison. The reasoning being Alnico V, similar outputs and, and useful through a large range of styles.I have instruments with both PUs and the MFs have (for lack of a better word) more attack. Not brightness the notes just seem to jump out more. The JB?Jazz set is smoother.
When the bassist plays guitar better than you do.
Great work and curious, are you a Schecter artist or do you just like their instruments?
Thanks! I actually picked up guitar when I was struggling to find guitar players that could fit the bill on recordings and live! I can remember one player getting particularly insulted when he hadn't nailed the phone in three weeks, and I asked him shouldn't you be better at your parts than I am?!
As far as Schechter, it's both, actually! I I'm an artist with them, but it's a no-obligation deal, and I use them because I genuinely find them Superior. I left a different endorsement to go with them and haven't regretted it at all
The Revelation appear to be the best
Interesting. What did you like about it in comparison?
@@RodneyMcG the clarity of the riffage and the neck appeared to be the most musical
Very cool. The neck pickup definitely had a little something special that really separated it from the other two. Thanks for checking it out!
Hmmm... seriously considering EMG passive... the MF sounds almost scooped in the mids and the Rev sounds almost boosted in the mids... hoping it was a bit darker as my Charvel HH HT mahogany body/maple neck is a tad bright.. the SD Full Shred in there is so papery sounding and low output... hoping to a 'rich' sort of 85 tone, low growl, high output...
If you're looking to tame bright, you might want to look at the DMF. It's thicker and more muscular than the other 2.
@@RodneyMcG Thanks for the super quick reply!!! Listening again, the Rev seems very rich and I can 'hear' the lows almost better than the other two... the DMF sounds almost muffled, and the MF sounds thin... hmmmm... how do you personally like the Rev? Enough output?
@@McLeanAB88 It's always going to be tough judging based on someone else's tone, because they probably dial it in different and don't use the same gear. I don't think the DMF is muffled, but I know how to dial it in for my gear. As far as the Rev, I like it a lot. I'm not really a fan of massive output pickups. I like something more open that I can get more out of. Super high output pickups to me always feel constricted and over compressed. The Rev works for me, but if you really needed more output, I would try a clean boost in front of the amp before I'd change the pickup. Just my thoughts on it.
@@RodneyMcG And I appreciate it! I'm just loving the character I'm hearing in the REV... the other two don't seem to have that... wondering if the EMG boost would help out with the output of the Rev's and keep the character... thanks again for sharing your thoughts and the demo!
@@McLeanAB88 Haven't tried the boost, but I would probably just try the pickup first, it may be enough for you as is.
The DMF won hands down from this demonstration.
It's got some serious chunk
@@RodneyMcG That's what I like to hear from the bridge pickup. In 2 humbucker guitars I find the bridge pickup involuntarily sacrifices a lot of low end but that one not so much. And it can be wired for coil splitting. Speaking of, it'd be interesting to hear how both pickups from that set react to coil splitting
I agree on the low end issue. The DMF is solid there, without being messy. I definitely need to get these split and nerd out on a new comparison.