I Moved to Portugal for a Better Life & Here's What I Found
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- Victor holds nothing back in his chat with Kalie from ExpatsEverywhere. He talks about moving to Portugal from Brazil, what was wrong with Brazil and why he left (maybe you can relate with your home country), why he loves Portugal, if he would ever move back to Brazil, the immigration problem he currently sees in Portugal, and more. Is he too brutally honest?
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Let's keep the Likes coming! 🙂 If we hit 1,000 likes, we'll do a community driven Q&A with Victor on our podcast www.youtube.com/@ExpatsEverywherePodcast - Josh & Kalie
The best caipirinhas are made in the north of portugal.
Kalie, with all my respect, and I’ve been following you guys for a while and admire what you guys are doing, but this video and the narrowed perspective is “brutally ignorant”.
I am a Portuguese person, lived abroad for 19 years in 4 different countries on 3 different continents, my experience taught me to respect and honor the local culture, not giving up on my own culture, but be respectful to the local culture and way of life, that is, in my opinion, the greatest stumbling block in the relationships between the Portuguese people and the multitude of nationalities currently residing in Portugal. Quando em Roma, sê como os Romanos.
Thanks for sharing. - Josh & Kalie
As someone born in America some 60+ years ago I think I was always Portuguese in spirit since I never desired name brand clothing, expensive restaurants, or even an I phone. I feel so at home when in portugal that I avoid English speakers (although I have not learned much Portuguese) because I want to fully embrace the Portuguese culture and leave all the consumerism of America behind. I never liked it there and will be happy to escape the constant race for more. Life in central Portugal is where I feel at home, finally.
I think consumerism is about wealthy Portuguese as well...
❤
Today I went for a bicycle ride around Cascais and Sintra. And that's all I need to feel happy.
We're glad you feel at home somewhere. :-) - Josh & Kalie
Vanity is very much alive and well in Portugal, as it is in the rest of the Western world.
Well put! Materialism is a sin and a sickness.
oooo so close to that 1000 likes!
thanks Victor for not holding back on your opinions. I've met many Brazilians in Madrid who share your views
What an awesome interview and so informative. I better get on my Portuguese language learning game. Thank you so much Victor and Kaylee.
Thank you very much. You can do it! - Josh & Kalie
24:39 If you don't know Portuguese, but you want to move to Portugal, at least study Spanish.
Priceless.... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you are moving to Portugal or to any other country, you should learn the Local Language. Not their neighbour's language!
In this case, it should be European Portuguese.
It's easy to find online content.
People will recognise your effort. They will feel respected and will treat you accordingly.
Learning some words and phrases in Portuguese will save you a lot of time, trouble, and money. 😉
Bom dia.
Um café, por favor.
Obrigado.
Good morning.
One coffee, please.
Thank you.
Easy. 😊
Finally, save your "Gracias" for a trip to Spain! 😅
Eheheh. He has a point there . That's why I prefer the Argentines 😅
Very good answer! 😅
its not true, Portuguese people doesn't speak Spanish!! The guy is Brasilian, its normal! 😅 😅
18:03 our previous prime-minister was "brown" (Indian ancestry, from Goa). The problem is not the skin colour, it's the behaviour.
Exactly...
Just my thoughts. He completely doesn't understand the migration problem.
Brazillians adopted the english empire cultures way, when they actualy see only color. We can distinguish only by look, who is green caple, guinean, angolan and mozanbique. Darker skin, but totaly diferent body types. The english empire cultures that brazil downgraded into, define race with the same meaning of ethnick and visualy skin color in a full contradiction way. They are just totaly unlogical. The legal portuguese way, are the only way, because genes are the only thing we cant change, so aplying more meanings are a dilution of the unfairnes that true racism are.
Brazil culture are in monkey stage of human evolution about race and racism definition because of that.
@@ricardoxavier827 interesting perspective!
@@firespacecostarica9303 and i am pretty sure that portugal are not the only nation defining race as only genetic standards and racism only genetic standards discrimination.
For the other types of discrimination we have diferent words.
If general discrimination, we say only discrimination.
This was a very useful interview and Victor was an excellent find on your part. Do more of these. Suggestion: what about mixing it up a little and interviewing native Portuguese about their views on the direction of their country, immigrants, tourists, etc.?
So, the old people are right: Foreign criminal groups identified as operating in Portugal generally come from Brazil, Ukraine, Cape Verde, and China. Brazilian organized crime groups have been present in Portugal for over a decade, with evidence suggesting their involvement in theft, general violence, homicide, and cocaine trafficking. Eastern European criminal groups are more active in the human trafficking market, while so-called ‘Chinese overseas police stations’ are allegedly present in Portugal and may be used to track and harass dissidents. Italian mafia groups have also been identified in the country.
the Chinese Police stations are NOT So Called
Yes, before this huge imigration wave we hardly had crime and when it happened it was NEWS... now its averyday, I dont even know my country anymore.
24:52 no we don't. We help our tourist neighbours, but we don't like non-Spanish people addressing to us using Spanish. And we know the Spanish language enough to tell the difference between a native Spanish speaker from a non native. Learning Spanish to use in Portugal is a big, huge, no-no. Just don't. Ever.
perhaps its easier than learning Portuguese and thus maybe a better attempt for immigrants to communicate at least somehow when English may not be widely known?
@@tallto it might be easier to say something, but I'm certain that the reply (in Portuguese) will not be understood. The Portuguese language used in Portugal it's hard to understand even by Brazilians. So, use English whenever possible, as I'm pretty sure there will be someone around that understands it. All kids do. Any 15 y/o will know English pretty well.
It's exactly my opinion, Nuno. I do not speak Spanish and I would not make an effort to even try to understand them.I hate to hear them thanking in Spanish because they do not even make the "effort" to learn such an easy word as "obrigado/a. Spaniards tend to address the Portuguese in their own language as if the Portuguese should speak it. They even try to speak Spanish when they are in England. They think highly of their language and try to make it an international language such as English.
When we visited, my Mexican boyfriend was told twice to speak in English or Portuguese but not Spanish.
@@lorrainecummings1616 exactly. Our neighbours (Spanish) are allowed to speak Spanish to us. Anyone else is not.
I like Victor a lot-so thoughtful. Very nice interview, interesting and informative. And seeing Aveiro might put it back into play with Porto and Setúbal….
Thank you, Gerald!
Thanks for watching. It's very cool to hear that Aveiro is back in contention. - Josh & Kalie
Great interview! Love Victors mindset. Did you do a podcast with him?
Thank you! No we didn't. We didn't get enough likes in time. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywherethat’s great, no podcast with the Brazilian liar
Katie, I follow you and Josh because I like supporting you guys. I have no interest in moving to Portugal, but I enjoy following your journey I loved Vitor's honesty. Brazil and the US share a lot of similar history. Brazil, by the way. has a lot of safe cities. Inequality and racism are major problems there. I personally love Brazil. Keep up the good work. I always enjoy your videos.
Thanks, Teddy! We appreciate the message and didn't know you weren't interested in Portugal but have just been following our journey. We're looking forward to widening the net again. - Josh & Kalie
Agree with you, and the assumption made in the video that Brazil equals São Paulo is totally arrogant and ignorant. Brazil is a gigantic country, with so many safe and wonderful places.
This was a very interesting interview. A different perspective than what you usually hear about Portugal. I appreciate Victor’s honesty. I agree it’s so important to respect the culture of the country you’re in and try to learn the language if you’re going to live there. Even if you are visiting, it’s nice to try to speak the basics, hello, thank you, etc. Thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for sharing your take on the interview. - Josh & Kalie
Good interview. I feel like this particular video is more commentary on Brazil than Portugal. I enjoyed it, but I think I learned to stay away from Brazil more than anything. I’m glad that Victor is happy in Portugal now.
Fair enough! - Josh & Kalie
Unfortunately, because Brazil is a great country, and like the US, has it’s better and worst places. Imagine someone who lived in Oakland, CA their entire life and talking about his “US” perspective based on that? This video is an offense!
@@ExpatsEverywhere, sorry, it’s not fair. How would you feel to have someone talking about the US as a whole with a perspective of 1 city?
Love this interview! Keep it up EE! You're hitting out the park with these interviews.
Thank you very much. We were worried about this one. We lost the audio on Victor's mic and had to do a lot of work to save the audio using Kalie's mic as Victor's. - Josh & Kalie
Victor, I enjoyed listening to your interview. But do not advise anyone to learn Spanish in order to get by in Portugal. I do not about Brazilians but the Portuguese are proud of their language and do not accept to be approached in Spanish as if it were their language. I do not speak Italian, for instance, but I can understand some Italian. But Italians when they are in Portugal they do not speak in Italian when they ask a Portuguese for an information. They either use English or sign language. So why do the Spanish speaking people not do the same? If someone addresses me in Spanish I will just say:Não percebo.
Victor is so spot on when he says how he wants to work in order to live now. That is exactly what I have always thought. I don't want to live to work, I want to do what people seem to do in Europe which is work just enough to live and enjoy. And I love SP, but he's right about taking care there and in Rio even more so. What an excellent video, you guys. I truly enjoyed his insight on Portugal and the Portuguese people and I'm relieved about the language situation, too....at least I know some español. Hopefully, it'll help while learning more portuguese.😄✌
When I lived in Brazil, 1987-88, I lived in São Paulo. The city was rough and tumble back then. I also traveled to other parts of the country, and the country overall can be a bit wilder than some might find comfortable. I loved being there and was not ever harassed, but I felt that I had to be careful wherever I went. It was just a question of how careful; just keeping my eyes open or having to be on full alert and actively taking steps to stay out of trouble.
Spanish? When I was in Lisbon last year I chatted with the hotel staff (Portuguese, Brazilian, Angolan) and NO ONE was happy when people spoke Spanish to them. No one. More like they were insulted.
Interesting about the South Asian commentary.
My sense was that Portugal has some stress right now, due to the influx of people from other countries and the exodus of Portuguese looking for better wages. It will be interesting to see how that gets sorted out.
It’s rude and presumptuous to expect Portuguese people to understand and speak Spanish. First ask if they speak Spanish. If you speak English stick to English unless Spanish is your native tongue but don’t assume that people in Portugal can understand and speak Spanish.
I very rarely watch these kinds of videos for one main reason.
Having lived for substantial periods in 4 countries and having
travelled to another 22, the most common issue I found I had
with so many expats has been that rarely have I found people
who seriously take into account who they are as individuals
when considering a move. The success of a move can be much
more about what kind of person they are than their new
potential country. It's a big discussion but hopefully you
get what I'm saying?
I think I know what you're talking about. We just recorded a podcast episode with a guest that speaks about this and works with people as a coach. - Josh & Kalie
This is completely true.
@@ExpatsEverywhere I think it's a bigger issue than most consider. After many conversations with expats etc, the large majority of what they talk about is basically "what can we get from this or that country", as if there is no need to consider any reciprical responsibilities & acknowledgements they should be expected to undertake toward that nation?
@@TheLastSongbird124 It's more a matter of the position, motive and motivation of anyone moving. It's not just an expat thing. People need to consider the pros and cons of the place their leaving as well as the place their moving to. It's the nature of the position that every human being has been in throughout history. People have freedom to change their position in life (in most circumstances). Then it comes down to the individual and their character on how they'll impact their new home (country or city), but first what drives people to move is concern for themselves and their families. The exception might be religious missionaries.
To be 100% honest and clear is that the only exception of people moving should be lawful and as respectful of local customs/culture to their knowledge. But the latter can take a little time to learn. - Josh & Kalie
Can’t agree more.
Keep in mind that He is talking about São Paulo. There is a lot of safe Cities in Brasil. Brasil is a huge Country and there is good and bad places like any Country is this World.
100%, yes! São Paulo is a nightmare right now :(
He's lying a little bit, exaggerating and generalizing
@@diegowcamorim quem?
@@vjcoupe corre no espelho
@@diegowcamorim e vi um homem lindo 🤩 fica em paz, Diego! Eu falei no vídeo que tudo era minha experiência, e pronto 😅
25:46 we know Spanish because we use subtitles for TV, films and series. That's why it's easier for a Portuguese to understand Spanish, than a Spanish to understand Portuguese. Spanish TV and cinema do not use subtitles to keep the original soundtrack.
Boy is this true, Nuno. We used to live in Madrid and it was evident. - Josh & Kalie
I speak 5 languages, fluently - apparently. We are exposed to many languages since we are born because of subtitles as you mentioned and because of our school system.
Os portuguêses não gostam quando um tutista americano inglês etc.etc. Digam Obrigado em lingua castelhana é um ofensa,é melhor dizer obrigado em inglês do que em espanhol,já me aconteceu turistas a pedir ajuda e me agradeçem em lingua espanhola.Eu o chamo atênção aqui é Portugal e se diz Muito obrigado a Espanha fica no outro lado.Eu e muitos portuguêses se sentem ofendidos,quando os ignorantes turitas sabendo que estão en Portugal estar agradecer em lingua espanhola.Em Portugal se diz MUITO OBRIGADO
What an interesting interview and subsequent comments! Well done
Thank you and thanks for watching. - Josh & Kalie
Interesting guy and great interview. I don't agree with him telling people not to go to Rio though. It's an amazing city that gets a bad reputation and there's a lot of misconceptions. It's dangerous in parts yes, but pretty much of all zona sul, where the tourists stay, is fine and relatively safe.
I lived there for 6 months had had no problems. I can say it's the best and most beautiful city I have ever lived in, and the people are amazing there. I will be back.
It’s just a old fight between people from São Paulo and Rio, hating each other as a sports club 😅
The tickets from São Paulo to Salvador aren't more expensive that the tickets from São Paulo to Lisbom. It's a too simple thoght.
You can compare right now on the Internet.
he said a few lies...
I wish Victor and his wife a wonderful life in Portugal
Thank you, Davide! Same to you ❤
That's a very lovely message, David. - Josh & Kalie
@@vjcoupe Francesinha are 1000 times better than picanha, and licor beirão are 1000 times better than caipirinha (i might be lying on this last one). Quem dá também leva.
@@ricardoxavier827 pouts, eu entendo sua brincadeira, mas assim como picanha não é minha carne favorita, caipirinha tá longe de ser a bebida também 😅
Would Love to see interviews of some Expats that are much older. To see what life is like after retirement & aging.
Ask and you shall receive. 😁 We have a lot of those interviews here www.youtube.com/@ExpatsEverywherePodcast - Josh & Kalie
WOW Fascinating perspective! Especially Spanish language vs Portuguese! Entertaining and informative! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! Please note that some people do disagree with Victor in terms of the Spanish v Portuguese debate. This is Victor's perspective as an non-native English speaker in Portugal. For us (native English speakers), we've been told that Portuguese people hate when people automatically speak Spanish to them, which could be rooted in the local thinking that the foreigner thinks that Spanish is what's spoken in Portugal and not Portuguese. Sometimes, this is the case but a lot of times, we find that people are just trying to communicate in whatever way they can. It's a tricky one. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere I suppose EVERYBODY disagree with Victor about addressing a Portuguese in Spanish! That's highly offensive, not to mention ignorant.
Although I recognize Rio is not the safest place to visit, Rio should be on the top of everyone bucket list. There is a reason why it is called the marvelous city. Just don’t be flashy and be aware of your surroundings. Please do not take the guest’s advice and visit Rio 😊
He was saying don't visit Rio purely tongue and cheek due to São Paulo's rivalry with Rio. It didn't come across in the video though. - Josh
O Rio de Janeiro continua lindo?
No, you are wrong! Allan, my best friend, was robbed by a POLICEMAN IN UNIFORM in Rio. The policeman stopped him, asked for his ID, he removed his wallet from his pocket; before he could even open it the policeman grabbed it and robbed him of U$200! Better to admire Rio's beauty by watching a video, that's for sure! I have much more serious, horror episodes suffered by friends who made the mistake of visiting Rio, but I'll leave it like that. [in answer to "Rio should be on the top of everyone bucket list. There is a reason why it is called the marvelous city. Just don’t be flashy and be aware of your surroundings. Please do not take the guest’s advice and visit Rio " end of quote]
His message comes across very clearly. It all make sense when you can understand his reasoning and tide them to your own. Thank you for the interview.
Thank you for watching, Wilfredos. - Josh & Kalie
Totally disagree, he shouldn’t be generalizing.
Terrific conversation Kalie. Obrigada to Victor for sharing his own experiences. I hope they have the children he dreams of.
Thank you, Jen 🥹
Thank you very much, Jen! It's always a pleasure to read your comments. - Josh & Kalie
I'm a bit confused. He stated that living in BZ they lived in what I'll call "quiet fear" and he referred specifically to Rio and SP.. Besides those huge cities there are lots in BZ of other smaller cities I believe logically would have been good, even a one million in population would have less crime. And there's the south of Brazil that I heard is quite different on crime like in SC and Rio Grande do Sul unless the areas or the life there didn't appeal to him. I just feel moving within BZ would have been less in terms of complications than moving to Portugal as changing countries is a big undertaking. So I don't understand completely his rationale for leaving.
hes probably trying to hide something
He is a São Paulo native who thinks he was born in the wrong place and is now hallucinating about Europe. This just shows how he was just another person in SP earning R$16,000 (sixteen thousand reais). It's not that much for São Paulo, I bet he doesn't have his own house in Brazil. Only another Brazilian will know what this guy is up to.
@@diegowcamorim But why didn't move somewhere else in BZ ? Something doesn't add up. There are other reasons he didn't say.
@@MarinaLaroche , thanks for your comment. The South is a different country in many ways. I’ve always felt safe there.
Maybe Portugal has a lower crime than Brazil but I have heard lots of concerns from expats in Portugal about the healthcare, barking dogs, attitude of locals to foreigners, and horrendous bureaucracy which makes getting a bank account, drivers licence, etc very challenging to get
Nowhere is perfect. - Josh & Kalie
É verdade , deixa-te estar aí que estás melhor.
@@humbertomadeira3754😂😂😂😂
Great Discussion and Congratulations on finding a better lifestyle
Thanks so much! - Josh & Kalie
Besides the security that Portugal offers the freedom from the pressure of materialism ( for me ) would be such a tremendous relief. Trying to figure out what to sacrifice simply to live in the US is becoming increasingly exhausting, and my heart still wants to give Portugal a try even though the loss of the tax incentive was a blow. Leaving the sense of familiarity to embark on such a journey is SO tempting. Great video, thanks for Victor’s perspective. Boa sorte!
Thanks for watching, Sean! - Josh & Kalie
May I ask which tax incentive you're referring to?? Are you referring to the golden visa? I'm considering Portugal as well but I know things change all the time as it does in other countries
@@tallto It's a program called the NHR that was a 10 year preferred tax regime that essentially ended at the end of 2023. - Josh & Kalie
The 10 year tax free program may be over but at least you can still deduct pretty much everything in your Portuguese IRS taxes, plus things here are still cheaper except maybe for rents in the bigger cities and new cars. One thing for sure, non luxury brand name clothing here is of pretty good quality, except maybe what you may find at the Chinese stores. If you need luxury brands, in Portugal you can get some good deals at outlets, however, pickings are very slim, and so will be your pocket if you shop for luxury brands nonstop, so much so, it's cheaper for me to fly to the USA just for a shopping trip; of course, only because I can stay with family.
@@Alfablue227 thanks for the details! Didn't know any of this. I appreciate the insight
Great interview. Thank you both
We're glad that you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks for the video. It would be nice to call ourselves what we really are: immigrants in Portugal, and there's nothing wrong with that.
You’re welcome. We guess it really depends on how you define the terms but both are neutral words so nothing wrong with either in our book. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere In my opinion the two words have a different meaning: an expat is someone who is sent by his/her company to be stationed abroad for a defined period of time, whereas an immigrant is someone who's moved to another country in order to start a new life there, and hopefully integrate as much as possible.
@@milanvelasevic867 What about someone that moves around from country to country every few years?
Fascinating interview Kaylee. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for listening, Lesley. - Josh & Kalie
Of course, it's racism when someone treats you negatively based on your skin color. Brazilians don't come illegally. They are perfectly legal when they arrive. They become irregular since SEF/AIMA takes a long time to process the Manifestation of Interest visa request, which was completely legal and offered by the government until a few days ago. In any country, from any culture, natives feel threatened when foreigners arrive as immigrants. It's not particular to Portugal. Vitor's lifestyle in Brazil is very representative of the 1% of the population on high income. Most Brazilians don't live like that. His lifestyle in Portugal is also much better than that of the average Portuguese person. We Brazilians indeed dream of moving abroad. We learn that other countries and other cultures are better than ours. We see that on TV, movies, and the internet. The truth is that once we immigrate, we are forever immigrants and always foreigners. I was an immigrant to the USA and am now an immigrant to Portugal. Despite Brazil's negative side, I never felt the same cozy reception elsewhere as in the country where I was born and raised, even as a child of first-generation immigrants to Brazil.
I felt so much at home the first time I visited Portugal. My DNA is mostly Spaniard and Portuguese.
You are forever immigrants? NO, here in Portugal once you embrace Portuguese culture and blend in, you are one of us, period. I myself was an immigrant for 40 years and guess what? Once I told someone I was Portuguese an "Invisible" screen came down. In Portugal, and because of a previous nefarious wave of Brazilian immigration back in the 90's that left a bad taste in our mouths, Portuguese tend to be very careful with Brazilians to put it mildly, but once you prove yourself to be of good character and you embrace our culture, you are not an immigrant you are one of us.
Don't make generalizations. Brazilians are diverse as are Portuguese. It's not like we're different whatsoever! The thing is we are 10M and you guys are 220M! And no, not every Brazilian lands here to stay in legal manners. Many come as tourists when they're intentions are to live and work here. But in the end of the day thousands of Brazilians are at home here! If you count those that acquired Portuguese Nationality after 5-6 years living/working legally here and therefore do not count as immigrants, then we’re talking about something like 1M in a Population of 10M.
Fatima, if you come with evangelical church thing, you are an alien to me. All my life i met brazillians that are not religious, and we got party toguether. Nationality do not define the person. And like in everything, we dont fit with everyone. Bad brazilians and good brazilians, everywere, depending on who is doing the avaliation. Evangelicals? Deportation.
21:00 The conservative mind of the Portuguese?? I would like to know his opinion on why the far-right has grown so much in France and Germany. Yes, there, there is a big problem with natives in relation to Indians, not in Portugal. He´s talking about the Portuguese as a whole, as if they were all the same! By the way, the Portuguese don't hate Messi, they just prefer Cristiano! Hating other players is not a Portuguese thing, that's someone else's thing. Living in Portugal since 2017, I think you should know the Portuguese better by now! If he knows the Portuguese well, he would know that they don't like English speakers going to Portugal and starting to speak Castilian. This is an insult, please never do this, only if the person doesn't mind!
Thank you for having this very honest discussion. I am an American who looks “different” for Americans, and while I generally don’t have problems when I travel abroad, I do find that people are surprised when I say I’m American because people have an idea of what an American should look like, and people are more confused because I’m light brown and I speak Spanish and some Portuguese (studied Brazilian Portuguese).
Thanks for watching. - Josh & Kalie
He wasn't honest at all...
Great interview Kalie! Ah, São Paulo!! Birthplace of my great-grandfather… I have never visited because of the violence. I hope to … someday
Thank you, Dean! - Josh & Kalie
Go to Sao Paulo with no worries, Victor is just like the average Brazilian middle class, like to talk more than that they really know. Don't trust 100% what he is saying.
@@diegowcamorim, right on, same thing I’ve thought.
Having spent time in Brasil and with good friends In Vitoria in Espírito Santo & Natal in Rio Grande do Norte, the concerns about security are not over exaggerated. While in São Paolo and Rio and many other large cities, it’s important to take care while walking around. In Rio, I saw a man rip a necklace right off the neck of a woman and run, leaving her two small children traumatized. However, I have really enjoyed all the cities I’ve been to in Brasil and the people have always been super nice. While in Portugal, I’ve just never had security concerns. It’s easy to walk around day or night without that uneasy feeling you get when it’s important to be more cautious of your surroundings. My only complaint about Portugal is the concept of personal space is quite different than in the US but I know that’s an American thing! Both countries are lovely places but I’d be more hesitant to live in Brasil.
Thanks for sharing. - Josh & Kalie
Professor G1, é verdade o que disse. Em Portugal temos uma noção de privacidade muito maior que os Americanos / Brs. Por isso as Câmaras fotográficas ou outras nos irritam tanto. Eu não quero a minha vida privada exposta. Tão simples quanto isso. Abraços de Portugal.
@@soniasantos6907 Professor G1 was not referring to cameras when he said *My only complaint about Portugal is the concept of personal space is quite different than in the US but I know that’s an American thing!* He was referring about the invasion of personal space practiced daily by the Portuguese 'perceived', by Americans. Here we don't come physically too close to others and never touch other people, unless we know them very well.
this skin colour thing is not true. it is about the behaviours of individuals in relation to the local communities. I am Portuguese and an immigrant and I respect the local customs and adhere to them to fit in. levels of education also play a big part in it.
Did they finish the city center remodel in Aveiro ?
This is the standard topic of conversation for Brazilians concerning crime. In other countries crime is rarely a topic of conversation. It isn't that things don't happen here in the US, but we are not overtly paranoid about it. There is a Henry-Penny notion that the sky is falling in. I just visited Curitiba, Brazil and everyone was super helpful and friendly. I used the bus to get around there and younger people gave up their seats. The people I visited always warned me to keep my wallet and phone in my front pocket. However, when I was on the bus or on the street people had their cell phones out in their hands. No one bothered anyone.
Crime is a major subject for gossip which is the first topic of conversation in Brazil. I think that there is a heightened sense of paranoia there. It's ridiculous. If you don't want to live in Brazil, I don't think that you need an excuse to move just move.
Dude...go live in S.Paulo or Rio de Janeiro and then comment again
Portuguese people especially the younger generation speaks English as a second language not Spanish. Not sure where he got this idea that it would better to speak Spanish than English. And I don’t think Portuguese people appreciate being mocked especially by Brazilians so I would suggest him rethinking that. And btw Argentines look down on Brazilians whom they call macaquitos. How do I know this? I’ve lived in Argentina. So his penchant for Messi instead of Ronaldo and then moving to Portugal and mocking them as CR7 fans is pretty absurd and wrong on so many levels. And it also explains why some Portuguese have a real problem with Brazilians moving to Portugal. I found it surprising too that he describes himself as super white when he doesn’t present as white. He would never be considered white in the US. Very strange interview.
Spanish is easy to understand to Portuguese people so
I agree with you and almost laugh when he described himself as "super white". Don't know what he sees in his mirror but "super white" he's definitely not. Here in the US - and I totally disagree with that since here only Northern Europeans are considered white, which is ridiculously ignorant - *Victor* would, at best, be considered 'ethnic' or 'other', to use the Census classification.
I agree with you and almost laugh when he described himself as "super white". Don't know what he sees in his mirror but "super white" he's definitely not. Here in the US - and I totally disagree with that since here only Northern Europeans are considered white, which is ridiculously ignorant - *Victor* would, at best, be considered 'ethnic' or 'other', to use the Census classification.
Does Victor do exactly the same job in Portugal as in Brazil, or how does it differ?
Yes you manage your time
Also he has a European job either in the Schengen or of the pre brexit E.U so timezones probably aren't much of a problem
Yes, I do, and for the same company, which is based in London!
Sorry to say this, but my white Brazilian neighbors think they are ahead of everyone for being white as well as educated. So. Yes, it is a white Brazilian thing to look down on people and blame the world for their own prejudice.
I agree! I don’t see myself as ahead, just as “more privileged” for not having issues with the cops or something else, when compared to my “dark toned” friends 🫠
that you both fell for left wing racism doesnt change the fact that most people dont care about skin color but everyone who isnt an idiot knows exactly who commits most crime in the US, in Latin America and also in Europe. now why you two are against every reality dont know that? no pattern matching? low IQ? and no, thats not the same as people who have in general problems with foreigners (again usually left wings which are btw. the most antisemitic/antizionist nazis together with islam - who btw. commits most crimes in Europe, most terror attacks, most attacks on lgbt and so on. yep also something you didnt know obviously). in general its really no rocket science: while most migrant groups (chinese, europeans of all kinds, vietnamese, hindu-indians, christian-indians, jews of all kind, educated brasilians, filipinos etc. ) are no problem, some ethnics ARE. at that point if everyone gets such basic knowledge and one does something about that, most problems are solved (because they fit to the reality). and if one does not want the same problems as you have in latin america with security (or to a lower degree in the US) then one HAS TO a) realize the reality and b) support only the ones who make a fitting politics. and thats in no combinations antiwestern, antiwhite, antiliberal, antidemocratic, antisemitic/antizionist anticapitalist (= making people poor, exactly the opposite of what they try to sell) left wing Nazis. EVERYONE WITHOUT EXCEPTION WHO EVER VOTE FOR LEFT WINGS IS GUILTY by supporting crime, antisemitism/antizionism (jews are not the ones who commit crime, on the opposite, they are a plus for the planet just like the democracy Israel in difference to the arab and radical islam palaeSStine nazis which were already supported by Hitler, also a NationalSOCIALIST = left wing). and so on ...
Brazil have everything to be a awesome country, crime, corruption needs to be addressed with harder measures
Yeah, Brazil has everything to be an awesome country, and the good news: it's already becoming one, sooner than many people think
Thank you so much for 0:13 your video and information🥰😘😘
He's speaking the truth, I had a bulletproof car since 2008. The country side gives people a false sense of security. It's actually worse because people sometimes break in your farm and kidnap you etc. I'd rather be in a "safer" city.
I am actually considering returning to Brazil not only because their highest tax bracket is 27.5% and their costs are lower, but also because you're left alone to do your thing instead of being micro managed like here in Europe. Portugal would be better than the Netherlands but a 52% tax rate is just insane in my personal opinion, sorry.
Brazilians are very "americanized". It's a consumerism culture. It's also a service culture. I like that aspect, but that's the way I personally feel about it. Local tourism has been more expensive than international since the 90's at least, it was actually even more affordable when the Brazilian currency was stronger. I didn't integrate with expats in The Netherlands after 7 years here, only the natives cared to interact with me (I am terrible with social interactions, though).
It's cheaper to fly between Brazil and Europe via US or Canada than taking a direct flight.
I didn't know that 16000 BRL are considered an upper class income in Brazil, or was that a decade ago?
Last time I went to Brazil a year and a half ago I saw more poverty on the streets than 7 years ago but as we can have a segregated lifestyle it was fine as we'd just drive to the mall and other "safer" places.
I can't disagree with his entire perspective because it's very accurate. I just feel my personal perspective is a bit different but I fear I might be wearing "pink glasses", so I need to stay there for five months and a half (so I don't become a tax resident there) and see how it goes.
I have dual citizenship by birth. I'd not have come to Europe otherwise, I'd rather have gone to US or Canada. Sorry. 😬 (no pun intended)
According to some IBGE data, those R$16.000 are really something in terms of income. Did I feel super rich? Hell no (which I was, though 😅).
@@vjcoupe Oh. Nation wide, not for São Paulo (the city, I am from there, by the way, originally 🙂). 16 thousand don't feel like enough to have a proper typical Brazilian Middle Class life (from the 80's including full time maid, single income household, private school for 3 children etc). Houses seem quite expensive in Brazil, considering they used to be way cheaper than here in Europe, these days. I guess "nobody" is able to purchase there too. Growing up you just had to get a good government job, work for 2 years while living with your parents, buy something with cash, no mortgage needed.
Have you ever considered Asia? :-) There are some great spots. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Thanks! I keep hearing about it and I think your advice is wise. I am also considering Uruguay and Paraguay as they might have tax policies that could make it more viable than returning to Brazil permanently.
@@TheSimArchitect We love Singapore and really enjoy Malaysia as well. - Josh & Kalie
As a brown guy from India who got his D8 and is about to come to Portugal, I am a little worried after his anecdote about the Indian guy he mentioned.
I genuinely think these expats channel should cover some brown people to see how their experience stacks up. I feel every country is super nice and welcoming to people as long as they're white. It's unfortunate that we are seen as danger just for existing.
It really depends quite a few single Indian men are now in the Alentejo region working in Agriculture. One of the biggest complaints is that they congregate in groups and gaze at Portuguese women. Every culture has different boundaries in some it’s okay to look at people longer than others. I wouldn’t want them looking at my daughters and commenting either. I’m surprised there haven’t more problems to be honest.
Well it all depends how you behave.
Take GOA as an example: Goan people (indians) hate indians from other states because they go to Goa and behave badly as: staring at white tourist women on the beaches, asking them for selfies, and all that kind of stuff.
So if you come to Portugal with that behavior... I have bad news for you.
@@afaria6173I certainly hope the men that you know who aren’t Indian won’t be looking at females like they do everywhere. It’d be hypocritical to say that males don’t that everywhere as unpleasant as it might be to women. My point is that all males should be addressed regarding this issue and rear them to understand that that isn’t ok.
@@afaria6173 Yeah, that totally justifies negatively judging people by their skin tone
Please stop with the skin color "issue". It's just not. It's people who just won't get past it and get out of their own way. Don't bring that negative, mental BS with you. Leave it behind in your home country and make your new country a better place. If all media outlets would stop pushing the the issue, it wouldn't exist. Most of us just want to get along and be happy together ❤️
It is too easy to speak wrongly against a country or society. I don't know how a person who lives in Portugal 5 to 7 years can say: they don't like person with brown skin, yellow, green, blue...I, as a portuguese with 49 years old never had any problem with any kind of person, I am a teacher and I teach Africans, Brazilians, Portuguese, Ukrainians, dutch, Italians, you name it! I never had a racial problem with any of them. I am married with a brazilian woman, when I went to Rio de Janeiro, I was scammed and I witness a couple of robberies, so, can I say that all of brazilians are criminals??? We, in Portugal, only have problems with persons who came where to steal, kill, do the wrong things...who ever came's where to work and be a good citizen...is welcomed, independently of his/her nationality. I am a little bit full of people coming to my country, and then, just saying "stupid" things, that they know nothing about!!!!
How do you give your opinion about something you don't know? You just know São Paulo fella, Brazil is awesome and huge! Change
thats nice and all, but can you have a portuguese talking about portugal's problems? thanks
We tried and not many people were that interested in what a Portuguese person had to say so we haven't tried again. th-cam.com/video/P6TeQeEAv14/w-d-xo.html
Sim falar espanhol para os espanhóis, mas não falar espanhol com um português
Na hora do “ao vivo”, algumas falam não saem tão bem como gostaríamos 😅
If you want to go to Portugal, learn portuguese and integrate into the culture, don't expect a rich culture like portugal to change for you.
it's totally fine to speak English in Portugal
I understand wanting to live without the dangers of physical violence.
I only spent 3 weeks in Portugal, but the interesting thing about being African-American, is how well we blend in. I’m definitely brown. I’m a bit tall. I was told they thought I was Portuguese. I seem like I was born in Portugal, and maybe my family was a mix of Senegalese and the Brazilian mix. So, I looked like I belonged. So, trippy! I have heard negative things from Portuguese about the drivers from Bangladesh and women from Brazil who are trying to take their men. 😳 I’m from California, and I love diversity, so I push back on that prejudice. Fortunately, most Portuguese people I met were extremely gratuitous and inclusive. Yet, I’m aware my American accent is a benefit to me in Portugal.
Had you been African and their treatment of you would change.
Very interesting to read although, we're not surprised if you know what I mean. We're also treated really well and sometimes people think that we're being over the top when we praise Portugal for how awesome the people are. - Josh & Kalie
A brazilian talking about portugal. What can possibly go wrong?
this guy is a joke...
Full of bias and “complexo de vira-lata”.
@@LtW00dy famoso dublê de rico 😆
@@diegowcamorimPetista detectado.😂
Does Floripa have similar safety issues as São Paulo?
Proportion wise, yes. Brazil now has the highest rate of homicides in the world. Twice USA.
Always felt safe there!
Floripa is safer, hands down.
kids in Portugal learn english at school since young age, I don't know anyone who studied spanish.
It's fine to speak both English and Spanish here i'm Portuguese and never saw a problem
Great interview. Thank you 😊
Thank you for watching. - Josh & Kalie
I lived in UK for 20 years including Woodgreen, Tottenham/ Bruce Grove where the London riots started, in a Brixton state council infested with 15 year hold armed thugs at my door step and in Hackney, and never felt so intimidated one year after moving back to Portugal crossing a zebra crossing in Aveiro, while walking my two (German Shepard size) dogs which saved me from being beaten from a group of 5 Middle East or Indian looking men in a car that almost run over us..I don’t want to generalize the all community but I’m still thinking today where all that disproportional rage comes from? and I’m mixed race Portuguese/ Angolan .. what were they so mad about? I just told them when someone crosses the pedestrian crossing that someone has the priority over the car.. it’s probably irrelevant and an isolated case but makes me wander of what’s happening to the Portugal I grew up 🤔
Hello, I'm Portuguese and I really enjoyed what you said about my country. It was very nice, thank you. I would like to add that the Portuguese really like to welcome people from other countries. Conflicts or culture conflicts may happen, particularly with people from the midle East due to the fact that these people worship death cults and do not respect human rights. In a progressive society this is totally unacceptable and could lead to serious problems in our country, as we see what is happening in the rest of Europe. Regarding the Portuguese language, the vast majority of Portuguese speak English, only the generation over 60 may not speak it.
What is your podcast link!
www.youtube.com/@ExpatsEverywherePodcast Here's the TH-cam channel and letsmovetoportugal.transistor.fm/ is the podcast hosting site for the audio version. We'll be back with Season 3 in a couple of weeks. - Josh & Kalie
He is not correct in saying that the culture is the same! It's quite not.
I believe people need to respect the new and their origin country and culture, and avoid generalizations and stereotypes. Brasil is not Sao Paulo, it is a great country of 215M people, this guest keeps saying In Brasil this and that. Not all Brasil is consumerism, materialistic, insecure, plastic, showing off, or want to move out Sao Paulo is in civil war? seems that he is exagerating to confirm his life decisions. Houston is not US. Embracing cultural diversity and avoiding sweeping generalizations enriches our understanding of any country. Exploring beyond the stereotypes allows us to appreciate the multifaceted nature of nations.
MAN.... Speaking spanish to a Portuguese is like saying Argentina is better then Brazil inside a crowded brazilian restaurant....
NO, if you dont talk portugueses, speak english, no worries....
Aveiro…
Gosto muito de Aveiro e de Costa Nova.
It's so pretty. - Josh & Kalie
This was an awesome interview! Truly a wealth of information and much appreciated. 🙂👍
Thank you very much! - Josh & Kalie
full of lies, if you ask me...
Portugal is a good country to take up residence, but it requires the applicant to have a good monthly income to support the increasing costs of renting or purchasing property and not depend on the public health system.
This is true if the applicant is receiving active income. The passive income route has a low threshold for the applicant. - Josh & Kalie
That brazilian woman in the airport was teasing that portuguese woman husband and when it comes to other women harrassing your husband, every women stands up.
The thing is the brazilian woman was taping that but editing the video she only showed the portuguese woman reaction....
SO if you have any problems with brazilians, start your video app on your mobile, never trust THEM !
People edit videos as they please. I never really trust edited videos anyway.
Basically I agree with almost everything that was said, except for two issues.
Firstly: we, Portuguese, don't really like Asians, not because of their skin color, but above all because they make little or no effort to integrate, rather wanting to maintain their customs in a country that is completely different from theirs. People from India and Pakistan make an effort to learn Portuguese, but the Chinese are a disgrace. I rarely meet a Chinese person who understands Portuguese at all. Talk, no way!
On the other hand, those who come to us from the other countries I mentioned try to learn Portuguese, but they have another problem: the cultural issue. I rarely see a woman without wearing kilos of clothes. In the case of Pakistan this is due to the dominant religion. In Indians, not so much.
Second: the issue of Spanish. Few of us Portuguese actually speak Spanish. What we do is adapt our language to theirs by speaking something we call "Portunhol". As we know, Spaniards have difficulty understanding other languages. There are several explanations for this, but I won't be listing them here. We understand them well and speaking "Portunhol" they can understand us.
India no es Medio Oriente...por favor!
18:02 you are literally saying that the Portuguese are racists. So many misconceptions and false "information".
Many are, as are Brazilians.
@@maryannwaters339 That is like saying that humans are racist, yes, many are... generalising, is what I meant! duh...
Great interview!!! Our mind changed very much when we move oversee. I left Brasil when I was 21 yo and I have been in US for 26yrs…thinking about moving to Portugal within 2 yrs because I’m looking for laid back life.
Você vai amar, tenho certeza ❤
Thank you for watching! All the best on your preparation. - Josh & Kalie
@@vjcoupeI am impressed about your English . Você passa tb por Português Vitor, amo Portugal e tb as pessoas, cultura e tenho respeito.
Congrats for your brightness and beautiful interview. Sucesso para você e sua esposa!! Obrigado
To make lots of money anywhere you must be very dynamic and active. After you are established and wealthy, you can lay back. However, if you are already wealthy nothing is a problem.
What a handsome young guy. I believe that his jaw is not as fat as it looks on the video, though. Thanks for having me, Josh and Kalie! You’re the best ❤
Hey, Victor! Thanks for opening up with us and taking the time to open your door in Aveiro to us. We look forward to bringing Cia over soon. - Josh & Kalie
I had to read that twice! Yes! Handsome, young, married man! Hehe!
@@Nubianette LOL
The camera adds 20 pounds and 20 years. The camera accentuates flaws. Reverse your cell phone cam when you are 40 and over. LOL.
Just a question? Why Brazilians doesn't make an effort to speak european portuguese. Why stick with brazilian portuguese if you want to live in Portugal?
They don't feel like they need to and that's ok stop being xenophobic
@@rawsupershow123I am not being xenophobic, it is a normal question. I speak Portuguese and learned how to speak like Portuguese so they can understand me. Me personally I couldn't understand brazilian when talking to them.
Great and interview
It's the same from people from Mexico who like a lot of loud music in America neighborhoods. When you move to a country you have to respect how they live in their country. It's just about respect
Are you saying that Americans don’t listen to loud music? Has it ever crossed your mind to be a bit more tolerant? And respect goes both ways, just saying.
@@Haiyan25 but it's not 50/50 as far as Portugal goes tolerance does play a part but before moving to a new country it behooves one to research the cultural norms of that country. Portugal was not founded by immigrants as the United States, it was founded as an nation-state in the 12th century. Immigration is something new to Portugal, within the last 50 years but primarily within the last 25 years.
@@afaria6173 I appreciate your comment, but am responding to the comment above, and not talking about Portugal at all. Good day.
Portugal needs 150k foreigners to work in specific areas, so anyone that already speaks Portuguese have a big advantage in integrating
Very true in terms of those that already speak Portuguese. - Josh & Kalie
I suspect what he is hinting at the dislike of Middle Eastern people is really nothing more than a dislike of Islam. Portuguese identity is founded on “beating the Muslim invaders and kicking them out of the country”. All you have to do is pick apart the symbols of the Portuguese flag it tells the story. Most Portuguese would never say this directly but it’s baked into the DNA so to speak. Just like the revolutionary war is into American culture.
My Portuguese friends say it straight: no Muslims, no Spaniards. We will fight until our country is free of them.
Plus the fact that Qoran mandates the murder of apostates.
@@jdnw85Portuguese people are for the most part cultural Catholics. Most really don’t care about getting into the specifics of any scripture regardless of the religion that’s why the fanatics always struggle with getting Portuguese raised in Portugal to convert to strict religions. There is a general dislike for Islam that I’m certain of.
@@afaria6173 its all over europe. islam and europe never mixed well and, never will. just look at the history.
@@stayhungry1503 the difference is that the Portuguese have a cultural identity just as strong as the Muslims. For example when you marry into a Portuguese family we expect you to adapt to our culture. The ones that don't have a lot of problems. The Muslims are actually more radical they expect anyone marrying a Muslim to convert to Islam and that the children to follow their dietary laws and to take on their cultural identity 100%. This will never work with Portuguese people. The other thing the Portuguese are Catholic culturally and will never allow a different culture to come in and affect laws and demand dietary accommodations in public institutions and guilt them into not eating pork(lol). etc. The Portuguese are not British or Germans who don't like to argue.
God bless you and your wife.
Wish you all the best in Portugal my favorite country in the world.💝
Love to move and live there anywhere.
Aveiro, Braga, Setubal, Coimbra, Porto etc.
Miss the people, the food, the country.
Miss the feeling of life that I can only feel in Portugal.
💝🇵🇹
Thanks for the love. - Josh & Kalie
Well, I would say be careful if you're not a native Spanish speaker and want to use Spanish in Portugal. If you're fluent, maybe (but ask first). If you're not and you're using 'gracias' and other words and expressions you have learned just for this purpose, please don't. Either learn how to say those things in Portuguese or just use English. It's rude to use Spanish in Portugal if it's not your language and you're not even fluent.
Very interesting 🤔🤔🤔🤔, I just found tickets from São Paulo , Brasil to Lisbon , Portugal for R$ 8.000 and to Salvado ,Bahia R$ 1.040. I think somebody id not telling the truth 😡.
I agree. He's telling "porkies"(lies) about the cost of travel within Brazil compared to travelling abroad.
Os chineses sempre cá estiveram e nós nunca tivemos problemas
Eu acho que ele tem a mania que conhece o pais e os seus problemas sociais
This person has a narrow perspective, meaning, he is talking about Brazil with a perspective of São Paulo. Sao Paulo is gigantic and chaotic and is totally ignorant to assume the rest of the country is the same!
This video made me feel sad as Brazilian, because my perspective as someone from South Brazil, is that he is talking about a country I’ve never experienced.
Can we compare Oakland or LA in California to the rest of the US?? Same applies here, São Paulo is a city in Brazil, but is not a full representation of the country. It’s totally ignorant to think that way. I had live in 3 countries and learn to do not generalize.
He’s full of negative bias and “complexo de vira-lata”. When he said “don’t go to Rio” and São Paulo being in a civil war state I lost interest on the interview.
Just watch "Cidade Alerta" and "Brasil Urgente." That is the reality of SP, Brazil.😂
Advising people to speak Spanish in Portugal is very insulting. You should know by now how fierce and proud we Portuguese are about our mother language. Big blunder.
I try my best to falar português, but the reality is that my Spanish is much stronger than my Portuguese, so invariably I don’t always remember how to say something in Portuguese and I slip into Spanish. I will get better, but sometimes Spanish speakers could be given a little grace while we learn Portuguese ☺️.
@@bklyntraveler9705 Believe me, even just trying to speak our language will be highly appreciated. No worries about slipping into Spanish every now and then, it's the effort and the consideration for our culture that counts. Thank you for learning our dear language. 😊
If you try we will be more than happy. But we have people from Madrid thinking that Aveiro is just another spanish town, why even bother saying obrigado when they can say Gracias.
I am not someone who enjoys buying stuff, but how does one, a few, or many individuals who by choice engage in any degree, large or small, of consumerism negatively impact the quality of life or mental health of anyone who, like Victor, interprets the "consumerism" of others as "an excessive degree of greed" that must be publicly condemned, as Victor does in this video?
People tend to forget that Portugal is a more conservative, reactionary and religious country. It was ruled for 40+ years by a dictator, Salazar who isolated the country. It fought two colonial wars that they lost and had a somewhat difficult time adjusting to the EU. BTW he doesn't mention the super disparity of wealth in Brazil. No one has the political will to make changes to more equalize life in Brazil.
He has the means to leave, so he did. He could afford to do it. He could opt out easily and the excuses are not withstanding.
We had THREE colonial wars at the same time and we didn't loose.
well... things were starting to get complicated in Guiné-Bissau I admit
🎉I’m moving to Portugal 😊😅
Congrats. - Josh & Kalie
Good! We welcome you
O conceito de comprar coisas caras para impressionar os amigos que não gostamos…
That reads like a famous quote ;-) - Josh & Kalie
Porque a brasileira estava a filmar as pessoas sem o consentimento das pessoas e acho que estava a criticar os portugueses e Portugal
What must there be done for people to understand that for the majority it has nothing to do with skin color, religion or geographic origin. It's the damn behavior. Share your culture respecting the local culture. Don't try to impose it. I lived abroad half of my live and always respected the local culture. It's not that complicated.
The "speak Spanish" tip? Unless he's just trying to prank everyone that's really a big NO. There's the big risk that people just assume the foreigner is speaking Spanish because of the stereotype that Portugal is part of Spain. Really something to avoid. At least start the conversation by "perdona, no hablo Português pero hablo un poco de español...". It'll help 😄
Please dont say spanish is our second language. Thats as ofensive as says you dont like Cristiano Ronaldo!😂
Não sei por que razão estava a escrever em inglês para um brasileiro😅 Mas, é isso, o espanhol não é a nossa segunda língua, apenas temos facilidade em entender.
From your perspective, what would you say is the country's second language? - Josh & Kalie
English.
Thanks for sharing.
North Americans, in particular, have developed an unjustified crash on Portugal. This was in its zenith when the golden visa by real-estate was available which came with a resident permit, didn't require physical presence in the country to be followed by naturalization and an EU passport after six years. This was the USP of the glossy marketing campaign.
All this is now gone. The only thing that is left is the high income tax and inflated real-estate market. A digital nomad visa is just a temporary visa for people with off-shore, online money making business. The new government 's goal is to severe that dodgy linkage between a temporary resident permit and the almost automatic naturalization after six years of residency. The truth is that Portugal is a poor country with not much to offer to its own native population. The wages are ridiculously low and the cost of living is intolerable. That what a Portuguese software engineer who lives and works in Germany, and whose dream is to immigrate to the USA where he can improve his earning potential explained to me. Retirees is a totally different story.
Due to most people having lots of money and buying up property, everything is becoming very expensive. Europe is overrun with millions of wealthy tourists. That causes long waits in lines and greatly impacts tourist experience and dollars. The ambience and charm of many cities and places is being lost. I plan to revisit Europe that is incredibly beautiful. However, I plan to live in America where there is relatively more convenience. What I do not like about America is the materialism and status rat race.
Wow, seems like Brasil isn’t much different than the US right now
I can be wrong, but I think it is (different). It depends on where you live, how you live, your place in society and your priorities. 🤔
I fled from the San Francisco Bay Area last year. Everything about it disgusts me now. So many weirdos on the streets, homelessness, drugs, trash everywhere. The problem in the USA is that we don't know where the violence comes from. In Brazil, we avoid certain areas. I lived in a small town with no violence or crimes.
@@Fatima-fx7no I could be wrong but I hear that there's very good and very bad places in the United States and that's something very clear. I don't know about any city in Brazil where you can use the last iphone on the street safely or drive a sportscar (not saying I want to have either but people should not rob you if you have them).
@@TheSimArchitect yeah but you could say that about anywhere