Aeromotive has great stuff and great selection. Oddly enough I used one on my GM TBI setup. It requires around 12PSI. Which is above your typical carb and way below EFI requirements. Aeromotive was the only one who had an adjustable regulator in that weird range. I bough it in the early 2000's and still use it today.
I remember in the early 2000s trying to make my vehicle a "sleeper" but then I added an Aeromotive pump to it because I needed the fuel flow. You could hear the pump buzzing around the block more then the engine or exhaust at idle/low rpm lol.
We used Aeromotive pumps in high performance marine back in the early 2000's. Gale's observation that the big pump would cause heating of the fuel during one periods of low demand was definitely true in our case. Way back then, Aeromotive developed the ability to slow the pump speed to lower fuel bypass flow. It also took demand off the alternator, whose output was marginal at idle. We found that spending hours idling in no-wake zones would discharge the batteries.
Turbo Yoda from The Skid Factory recommended this channel, and everything has been so enjoyable with great presentation and so much knowledge. Getting an unboxing video by Banks must be the best product endorsement you can get.
I love this man the legend been following him since before pagers were invented in all his books and publications and now bless with internet on TH-cam life doesn't get better than this. Thank you gail for all your scientific research in the hotrod industry. Like E F Hutton Hutton when Gail speaks everybody Listen. 👍👍👍👍👍
I love this that even when it comes to fuel delivery, Banks just tells us how it is! This is stuff most companies refuse to do, or even research themselves!
Man I can’t wait to see what the L5P will do with proper fuel feed. Banks always a pleasure and a learning session, I enjoy every second of the knowledge you’re giving.
Always enjoy the videos from the Master him self. Educational and the research to back up the claims. While the wanna bees on youtube promote nothing but a disaster waiting to happen. Or they show you one video and that's it.
I luv his unboxing videos ! His excitement is so contagious! Such a super smart guy! I’d luv to hang around his shop and be a fly on the way and learn!!!
Never have luck with Aeromotive. Did their in tank kit, and the kit is great, but the pump lasted 12 minutes. Replaced it with a Walbro and it ran for years. A1000 issues everywhere even on motor no pushing the pump. Regulators have been an issue also, but maybe it's just not my size. Now Weldon regs and Wlabro pumps have never failed me.
That is amazing, to be able to take one wire and change the speeds of the pump in such a wide range! I'm interested to see fuel temperatures on the diesels, because in my class 8 trucks the fuel delivery systems are poor at best. I'd love to see what kind of results you get!
Being able to get stuff for trails that are in your head is the best thing in the world. Testing to prove a theory is to be ( the kid in the candy store)
Mr Banks from what you are describing you may do better to get a closed center hydraulic pump. This would be a load sensing system that when there is demand a shuttle in the pump adjusts a swash plate and volume increases. It would run a pilot pressure and then jump from there.
Are the 'other' pumps you're talking about FASS and AirDog? Put the Aero Head to head with the FASS. It will make them strive to be better! And I want the best bang for my buck!
Fuel heating is a major factor in marine fuel injection systems. Most have fuel coolers and on gasoline systems, most are return less. It does no good to return fuel to a tank unless it’s cooled anyway since the tank doesn’t have cooling air around it like a car. Vapor lock is a big problem on marine EFI systems. On inboards there is usually an anti siphon valve at the top of the tank and this increases vacuum in the fuel line ahead of the pump. In tank fuel pumps are usually not safe or can’t pass Coast Guard rules (pump distance from engine rule). But one ski boat mfg has found a way, or did they ?
Are those pumps rated at continuos duty, I was concerned because they were drag race parts. I went with the Holley ones that mount inside of the fuel cell.
I don't know if you need a whole video. Think of it like a garden hose... Flow rate is volume, or how much water (gallons/liters per minute/hour) comes out the hose. Pressure is how forceful it comes out (PSI, KPa, etc.) Fuel injectors require a certain amount of pressure to work, and your engine demands a certain volume of fuel to run properly. Typically, as flow rate increases, pressure drops (think of having a larger diameter garden hose, it requires more water to build pressure) so if you need high pressure and high volume you need a fairly large pump. Diesel engines run very high fuel pressure but typically low volume, but if you're building performance diesels and your fuel demand increases, you need a bigger pump that can supply the pressure and the volume
Diesel engine systems use the fuel to also cool and lubricate the pressure pump and injectors. You will find most common rail systems use a cooler on the return line to help with that heat removal
@@cencoast_7.340 You still need an intermediate device if you want "all" sensors to work. Some sensors will work great out of the box, but some might have an inverse response to what you want, where the output drops s you are wanting the pump to speed up, some may have a limited range of output voltages...some might have a digital output.
Nice Guy I’ve been to the Aeromotive facility. All the machining is done in small batches by companies based in Kansas City where Aeromotive is. No global products with their pumps and regulators.
Just a stupid idea I got watch this, wuld it be a dum idea to make a regulator with a valve position sensor? And control the pump speed whit regular valve position 🤔 it would be a plug and play version for carb cars or older ifa cars if the pump response time is there 🤔
That's a very good idea. I assume you mean you set it so the pump regulates it's output to maintain a set return volume? If you haven't done so, might be well worth communicating your idea to Aeromotive.
Aeromotive has great stuff and great selection. Oddly enough I used one on my GM TBI setup. It requires around 12PSI. Which is above your typical carb and way below EFI requirements. Aeromotive was the only one who had an adjustable regulator in that weird range. I bough it in the early 2000's and still use it today.
I remember in the early 2000s trying to make my vehicle a "sleeper" but then I added an Aeromotive pump to it because I needed the fuel flow.
You could hear the pump buzzing around the block more then the engine or exhaust at idle/low rpm lol.
I remember those days.
lol should’ve heard the old FASS pumps......🤦♂️ so much better now!
Ah the inline vs submerged problem.
Thank you for not monetizing your TH-cam videos. I hate when companies that use TH-cam for promotion and then monetize the promotion.
I like the back stories to these companies- very interesting.Always had very good luck with Aeromotive stuff.
I would watch Gale Banks unbox lug nuts and enjoy every second of it. His watch time must be 80%+
"I feel like a kid in a candy store with this stuff"
If you don't know that feeling, you're not a true car enthusiast.
We used Aeromotive pumps in high performance marine back in the early 2000's. Gale's observation that the big pump would cause heating of the fuel during one periods of low demand was definitely true in our case. Way back then, Aeromotive developed the ability to slow the pump speed to lower fuel bypass flow. It also took demand off the alternator, whose output was marginal at idle. We found that spending hours idling in no-wake zones would discharge the batteries.
First time ever seeing one of these with zero views. 17 seconds after it was posted, good timing.
Damn, what an accomplishment.
5👍's up Mr power thanks again for taking us all along with you for the great news
You must be all thumbs.🤣
Turbo Yoda from The Skid Factory recommended this channel, and everything has been so enjoyable with great presentation and so much knowledge. Getting an unboxing video by Banks must be the best product endorsement you can get.
I love this man the legend been following him since before pagers were invented in all his books and publications and now bless with internet on TH-cam life doesn't get better than this. Thank you gail for all your scientific research in the hotrod industry. Like E F Hutton Hutton when Gail speaks everybody
Listen. 👍👍👍👍👍
I love this that even when it comes to fuel delivery, Banks just tells us how it is! This is stuff most companies refuse to do, or even research themselves!
Man I can’t wait to see what the L5P will do with proper fuel feed. Banks always a pleasure and a learning session, I enjoy every second of the knowledge you’re giving.
Thanks 👍
Love watching these series because it gives me insight into what I want to run on something I want to build.... thanks gale!
Glad you enjoy it!
great family story on aeromotive
I always learn something new from you. Thanks for the continuing ed!
Glad to hear it!
Thanks Mr. Banks..
Very Well Explained. 👍
Always enjoy the videos from the Master him self. Educational and the research to back up the claims. While the wanna bees on youtube promote nothing but a disaster waiting to happen. Or they show you one video and that's it.
I just looked them up. $1268-$1810 for the brushless pumps.
I know what I want for Christmas in July now @Gale!
I luv his unboxing videos ! His excitement is so contagious!
Such a super smart guy! I’d luv to hang around his shop and be a fly on the way and learn!!!
If Banks backs it, its a good product. Plain and simple. The data tells no lies.
Thank you
Never have luck with Aeromotive. Did their in tank kit, and the kit is great, but the pump lasted 12 minutes. Replaced it with a Walbro and it ran for years. A1000 issues everywhere even on motor no pushing the pump. Regulators have been an issue also, but maybe it's just not my size. Now Weldon regs and Wlabro pumps have never failed me.
Censored brush-less can do max torque at any rpm and can work with a pressure sensor to accurately regulate speed.
That is amazing, to be able to take one wire and change the speeds of the pump in such a wide range! I'm interested to see fuel temperatures on the diesels, because in my class 8 trucks the fuel delivery systems are poor at best. I'd love to see what kind of results you get!
I look forward to this videos btw. Thanks banks! Send me something! Lb7 powah!
I can't wait to see a Banks Diesel pump along with aero
"2020 Ford Mustang" suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure buddy :D
Still using a a1000 pump on my fbody and a aeromotive fuel pressure regulator haven’t had a single issue w it ever 🙅🏼♂️
Being able to get stuff for trails that are in your head is the best thing in the world. Testing to prove a theory is to be ( the kid in the candy store)
I know this isn't your domain but seeing you guys try to tune a electric motor could be cool.
Mr Banks from what you are describing you may do better to get a closed center hydraulic pump. This would be a load sensing system that when there is demand a shuttle in the pump adjusts a swash plate and volume increases. It would run a pilot pressure and then jump from there.
Are the 'other' pumps you're talking about FASS and AirDog? Put the Aero Head to head with the FASS. It will make them strive to be better! And I want the best bang for my buck!
Mr Banks I always love your videos. You probably are aware of Mike Patey, if not check out his TH-cam stuff. He seems to be GA equivalent of you.
When will you guys have the Derringer ready for the 2020 6.7 power strokes??
Was there ever a part 3 on the differential covers?
An immigrants American dream, great story. Perhaps one day I could be a hard working American
Have you used Fass system. What do you think of it
Fuel heating is a major factor in marine fuel injection systems. Most have fuel coolers and on gasoline systems, most are return less. It does no good to return fuel to a tank unless it’s cooled anyway since the tank doesn’t have cooling air around it like a car. Vapor lock is a big problem on marine EFI systems. On inboards there is usually an anti siphon valve at the top of the tank and this increases vacuum in the fuel line ahead of the pump. In tank fuel pumps are usually not safe or can’t pass Coast Guard rules (pump distance from engine rule). But one ski boat mfg has found a way, or did they ?
Are those pumps rated at continuos duty, I was concerned because they were drag race parts. I went with the Holley ones that mount inside of the fuel cell.
They aren't drag specific.
Never heard of Aeromotive, thanks
I really loved this video - I just wish I understood what Gale was talking about. Could Gale do a "fuel pressure v flow rate for dummies" video?
I don't know if you need a whole video.
Think of it like a garden hose... Flow rate is volume, or how much water (gallons/liters per minute/hour) comes out the hose. Pressure is how forceful it comes out (PSI, KPa, etc.)
Fuel injectors require a certain amount of pressure to work, and your engine demands a certain volume of fuel to run properly.
Typically, as flow rate increases, pressure drops (think of having a larger diameter garden hose, it requires more water to build pressure) so if you need high pressure and high volume you need a fairly large pump.
Diesel engines run very high fuel pressure but typically low volume, but if you're building performance diesels and your fuel demand increases, you need a bigger pump that can supply the pressure and the volume
@@NovaNinja_ Aw thanks man for the explination, much appreciate it.
Anyone else want to see what these guys could do with a carb or a TBI setup ?
I'm not sure about diesel, but nearly all automotive gas engines have completely abandoned return fuel systems due to the EVAP emissions requirements
Diesel engine systems use the fuel to also cool and lubricate the pressure pump and injectors. You will find most common rail systems use a cooler on the return line to help with that heat removal
I'm sure Banks has already thought about making an idash module that controls this fuel pump based on any sensor data you can plug into it!
He said it could be wired into any sensor already.
@@cencoast_7.340 You still need an intermediate device if you want "all" sensors to work. Some sensors will work great out of the box, but some might have an inverse response to what you want, where the output drops s you are wanting the pump to speed up, some may have a limited range of output voltages...some might have a digital output.
Is that analog or PWM or both either?
Digital
I wonder how he ended up. In the neighborhood with all the huge mansions?
Grand pappy banks
Are these Made with “global “ products
Nice Guy I’ve been to the Aeromotive facility. All the machining is done in small batches by companies based in Kansas City where Aeromotive is. No global products with their pumps and regulators.
Hi :)
Just a stupid idea I got watch this, wuld it be a dum idea to make a regulator with a valve position sensor? And control the pump speed whit regular valve position 🤔 it would be a plug and play version for carb cars or older ifa cars if the pump response time is there 🤔
Seems like a good idea, can't see why not.
That's a very good idea. I assume you mean you set it so the pump regulates it's output to maintain a set return volume?
If you haven't done so, might be well worth communicating your idea to Aeromotive.
My ship in the navy could burn over 100 gallons per second.
first.
It's a sign kid, your life blows.
10 gpm = Jesus