I wouldn't be surprised if the 2026 refresh is to add a V8 engine, and scrap the whole eco turbo experiment. Especially if Trump wins presidency & changes eco laws. Eventhough the main reason is Toyotas own eco initiative.
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Neither reliable or affordable. They think their loyal fans will never jump ship lol. I'm hearing lots of people on YT buying other brands now. Nobody wants to pay their yota tax anymore.
This only applies to models not built in Japan. Toyota vehicles builr in Japan are built much better. I would only buy a Japanese car built in Japan (if we are talking modern vehicles).
@@overlandbyday1130 Maybe he didn't. Maybe he wanted a Toyota and couldn't find one at a dealer in his area that wasn't marked up. I've made comments about dealer mark ups as well. I didn't buy a dealer marked up vehicle. I would have much preferred to buy at my local dealer rather that waste a weekend going to pick up the truck two states away.
Toyota is worth 5x what tesla is in yen. Theyre so big and rich theyre basically scamming. Their behicles suck extra and cost extra at the same time. You midaswell just give japan all your money because the keep our loney sellingnus shotboxes that dont laat sp we end up behind and they end up ahead.
We have a Toyota dealer in the Denver area who hasn’t had any markups, even during Covid. Mountain States Toyota. Sounds like a dealer ownership/management problem instead.
@@yayinternets still a acam. I wouldnt take it if you gave it for free because I dont want to pay to keep it going it will only cost a lot and because its crap it will only go up
I work at toyota as a tech and we’ve had plenty come in blown. Worst i’ve seen is a guy bought a brand new tundra less than 10 miles and the engine blew before he drove off the lot, replaced it with a short block, came back a week later low oil pressure.
Hahaha I bet you the sales manager which was laughing his ass off when that guy drove out the lot yeah after the a****** paid $50,000 yeah no counting that money as he drove off from a little motor hahaha yeah
@@jamescostello7584 yup, these new trucks are for yuppies that don’t know anything. No real man’s man would touch the 22 and up models. It’s a yuppie mobile.
Toyota Master Tech here, all I’m going to say about the new Tundra engine is ”BEWARE“. I’ve seen my fare share, things I just can’t discuss due to still working for Toyota. At your own risk!
@@christianrobloxserver7282 you're completely wrong because Toyota has more carbon credits than any other automaker including Ford and Ford is still building V8 engines in not only the mustang but their full-sized trucks as well. Toyota was clearly trying to copy the supposed success of the EcoBoost which is laughable due to their issues as well. You should really do more research next time.🤣
Dude they had no choice, the EPA has forced all vehicle manufactures off V-8's with the upcoming EPA standards for trucks and SUV's. Toyota is a manufacture that loves to sell v-8 Trucks and SUV's, and a few cars as well. Stop acting like Toyota pulled the plug here, the Government did this years ago and manufactures are being force off low MPG engines.
Now they're playing roulette with the Taco's. Will those turbo 4 bangers be reliable? I wouldn't take a chance with it which is why I went with a NA V6 Frontier.
I replaced an engine block on one of these at work last December with 15k miles on it, it had a spun rod bearing. took damn near 30 days waiting on parts, and the heads were sent out to a machine shop so that took an extra week, got shafted from Toyota on warranty pay big time too. You gotta feel bad for the customer though, they paid 80k for this mortgage on wheels and are being told it has to be ripped apart. The customer came back in the shop to get something out of the truck when I was working on his motor, cab in the air frame on the ground, motor down to the block, his eyes were in disbelief.
Exactly! The problem is Toyota's North American MANAGEMENT!! In Japan the management would act VEY VERY differently! They are not standing by Toyota reputation and they are trying to squeeze customers for the last penny. Do not answerer their surveys because they use these surveys to gauge how they can give you less ad less for you money. And if you answer these surveys just tank them in every single category.
Toyota managed to go from the highest reputation to amongnthe lowest so fast. Its wild how if you blinked you coulda missed how fast that huge collapse was we have just seen toyota go into. 2 or 5 10 years ago their cars felt like double the quality and half the price. They bait and switch us.
Toyota’s dealerships were absolutely the worst during the pandemic. People put up with it cause their cars were still some of the best bang for bucks vehicles. They were reliable and low maintenance. Now their MSRPs are out of this world ridiculous. Base models are decent, but add any useful feature or trim and you’ll be paying almost 1/3 the cost of the car on top of the initial price. It doesn’t help that the dealers add an additional 4k for accessories while adding mark ups. It doesn’t help that there are rumors that cooperate purposely decreased output so that Toyotas could be artificially inflated. So Toyota deserves all the hate they’re getting.
@@greensleeves8095 exactly. I ordered a Tacoma in 2022 and cancelled it because it was supposed to be 6 weeks and never showed up at the 2 month mark. Also couldn’t accept the idea of paying a 6k market adjustment.
Seriously everything turbo to increase power on lean efficient engines. Trucks should rarely have turbos! All that carbon lock and burnt oil has a super detrimental effect.
@Bolthrower91 Turbos aren't really the issue it's more shitty components in the new engines that companies use to try save $. Also any truck made during covid is a no go.
Mever trust toyota. They were scam artists even in their peak admit it. There was plastic wear parts that shouldnt have been plastic even back in the 90s
Once the engine comes out, you better sell your car immediately. Former tech here, we were physically unable to put engines in the right way because we were quite literally fighting against time, the time that warranty gave us, which is INSANE. In a tech world, we are calling warranty jobs, free jobs for a reason, and everyone Hates big warranty jobs because they know they will be working basically for free and because of that techs are doing HORRIBLE jobs, because nobody wants to lose money, since we all have to pay bills at the end of the day.
Yup I guarantee toyota is going to screw the flat rate techs on replacing the short blocks in these tundras, probably pay 18hrs or some ridiculously low time.
Im a bodyman on the line in a fast paced high production bodyshop and i concur, the same with repairs in my world. 30 hours to completely tear down a Grand Wagoneer for a roof replacement. Headliner, side air bags, two sunroof’s, over head console must be taken out and they call it included operation. I learned how to fix cars right then i figured out what corners i can cut because my back is against the clock flagging commission hours.
Ive been a mechanic for almost forty years, the last decade part time ...this crap is why I stopped bothering with getting business and have retired altogether after seeing the ridiculously complicated modules and Canbus systems. Unserviceability is up to critical levels, not to mention the expensive tools needed to work on the newest vehicles. People need to get ahold of the real reliable cars and trucks of the past and maintain them because soon new cars will only be affordable for millionaires and governments.
2nd gen gets my vote for the best half ton of all-time. Looks, stock power, reliability, everything put together; at that time in 2007 is incredible. Sad what’s going on, man. What can you say?
They should’ve kept the big engine and use the hybrid system to increase the fuel efficiency. Instead they we t with a small engine and use the hybrid to give it more power. The truck was designed and manufactured in the USA and not in Japan. Which to me, it’s the biggest problem and the root cause.
@The_Top_Gun. I bought my 2008 sequoia with 258k miles. I've only put like 10k miles in it in 3 years. but it looks and works great. Zero issues other than the tiny oil seepage that the 5.7 is known for. Will keep getting old sequoias or tundras until I get to the 2022 model
If this weren't such a publicized issue, Toyota wouldn't be doing any warranty coverage. Before social media it took class action lawsuits to get them to do anything.
Toyota has a good history of issuing recalls... Unlike EVERY other manufacturer. Look at Ford with the "deathwobble" that has legitimately killed people.
Same. Thinkin bout getting another midsize dodge. Plenty of truck for handywork i do. And reliable. Shame what autoindustru has become..wish we could boycott all of them
Just bought a 04’ Camry southern car (absolutely no rust) with 60k miles on her. I plan to drive it for another 300k miles. I might even buy one or two more and keep them in the garage for later use.
That’s why I love Nissan. I know their trucks aren’t superior but one thing I do know is they haven’t changed their engines in quite a few years. They’re still running V8 and V6 is naturally aspirated no turbo that’s the key all these newer cars don’t want to turbo all engines are blowing
@jibberjabber-fm6pb yeah nissan has gone woke like toyota and honda...nothing but hybrids with 4 cylinder turbos and electrics. glad i bought 2 new gas only vehicles in the past 2 years while i still could
It’s a good thing you got a 2015 cause 07-10 models were braking valve springs left and right, that’s why nobody really cared for tundras, and now with there 2024 models having epic engine failures, how can anybody feel proud of there investment knowing that both the older and later gen have the worse resale value.
I would never be able to buy a tundra but think it is important that people like you are sounding the warning on bad cars and trucks. The OEM's need to realize they can't hide issues in this day and age of youtube and they need to step up the quality.
Thanks for the info, I'm currently looking to buy one and have a 2025 Tundra TRD Pro order and your videos are giving me second thoughts, the dealership says its going to be about 6-8 months of a wait time, which means I still have time to cancel and get my deposit back. (they are nice enough to refund me the deposit). I did talk to the dealership about the concern of the engine failures that I see on the internet, and they told me that Toyota had a recall earlier this year(2024) and already got the problem fixed. I know they want to sell me the car and could be just promising about something they are not sure of. Is there any info from Toyota saying that they are gonna fix this problem? Maybe the 2025 model would have a better engine, or same engine but improved?
It’s very hard to determine if the root cause is fixed yet. There have been some 2024s with the same main bearing issue, but a lot fewer than 2022 and 2023s. I hope the 2025s would be safe from the “debris” issues but only time will tell. If Toyota is being truthful about the root cause, it stands to reason that the 2025s will in fact be safe…but as with anything in life there are no guarantees. I should have a new video out soon with regard to how Toyota is fixing the issue currently, crate engines are starting to show up for tundras that are recalled which is a welcomed sign for owners, it’s a much better fix than short block rebuilds.
Good luck, I guarantee you your engine was rebuilt by a few guys standing around trying to figure out how to do it based off some generic information Toyota supplies them with.
I feel bad for the techs having to deal with this. It should go to a specialized engine mechanic, or a new crate motor entirely. Toyota is being cheap to fix problems by being cheap. It aint gonna work.
Bingo, rebuilding a modern engine is just a horrible job, so many pieces, hoses, clips, if you finish and you dont have any "leftover" pieces, you didnt forget anything, and the hoses/wires are routed properly, thats almost a miracle. Not a chance it will happen with a rush job.
You should research the Mercedes C43 AMG. New engine. I purchased one at christmas for my wife. Shipped it to our house ( never drove it) and surprised her on christmas morning. She did not drive it that day because we did not have insurance yet (hard to hide such things so I waited). The next day she drove it to the post office and the engine blew up. The local Mercedes dealership couldn’t care less and misdiagnosed the problem. The dealership we bought it from literally told us to “take it up with service” and hung up. I had to ship it to RBM of Atlanta at our expense (2k) and after nearly 2 months Mercedes replaced the engine. It was a bad casting and sand is being left in the block. After more research this is happening ALOT with this car and Mercedes is well aware, yet, no stop order and the dealerships just keep selling them. We are old “car people” and I have decided to never buy new again. I’m driving my 86 square body Chevy truck and i’ll be buried in it. All this new crap is just that…crap and they’re forcing the poor (literally) consumer to pay for it.
That really sucks, when they know it's happening and they don't do anything about it to corrected is f****** ridiculous. Hopefully it goes out again and you have more issues then you can get a buyback or a lemon law if that's available in your state.
People still say well toyotas are super reliable so i'll buy one. Folks this is not the toyota of 5 years ago and older. Go look at the quality of them in person and compare it to a 2018 or older as a mechanic friend of mine showed me. Greed got a hold of toyota unfortunatly.
There’s a reason I’m still driving my 20yo Toyota truck with 300,000 miles on it… it’s stone reliable so I’ll rock it until I’m dead. They can bury me in it !
My truck was the one that you showed at the video intro. I was one of the very first people to have this failure. It was a MISERABLE experience. Everyone told me it was my fault and it was impossible, but here we are today... Toyota fixed it, but i went ahead and accepted the lemon law buy back even after I got the truck back. I can share a TON of info with you if you want.
As a decades long Toyota truck loyalist, I just bought a brand new NA V6 Nissan Frontier. Crappy turbo engines, hollow build quality, ongoing quality concerns, insane pricing, and cartoonish bro-dozer styling were dealbreakers for a Tundra purchase, or for that matter, a new Tacoma purchase. $39K OTD for a loaded Frontier SV crew cab long bed. Quiet, comfortable, powerful, well assembled. It’s the NA truck Toyota should have built.
Google Nissan V6 is with s*** for years along with the and they always been s*** and always made that type of model so tired already made that type of model I make good s*** now they're making sure so what makes you think that that truck is going to be good when all other Nissan suck I got a 1997 Nissan Sentra that's better than your truck if you don't believe me then stick your whole stick your head and the exhaust pipe and suck
@@theoldculture216I’ve not had a single recall on my 2022 Frontier other than a transmission software update that was performed before it was delivered to me new. Zero issues with the truck to date. It’s been reliable and sturdy as a hammer.
Next time, they should listen to their buyers. We all predicted that this would happen. Hey Toyota, if it's not broke DON'T FIX IT !!! You have multiple proven engines, and you give us this crap🤦♂️
@@overlandbyday1130 They could have kept the V8 and added a reliable mild hybrid battery to it to save MPGs. Instead they put a smaller and unreliable powertrain.
@@overlandbyday1130 I agree. They could have kept the V8s, however they would have to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in fines to the government. Dodge got rid of the hemi because they were paying a half billion dollars in fines every year due to government mandates. Dodge increased their prices to make up for the fines, and people stopped buying them.
@@overlandbyday1130the others kept theirs because they have AFM which turns their V8 into a V6/V4. Those have issues as well. Blame climate activists that managed to get into power within the government for forcing us buyers to decide between new, unreliable emission friendly vehicles or old, maybe reliable vehicles.
My buddies has a trans leak and has been at the dealer for 32 days because the parts aren’t available. Lemon lawyer got 3 options: toyota buys back the truck at full price; he can trade it for full price; or, keep the truck, warranty, and Toyota pays him $10,000 for his frustrations.
@@plmn93my immediate thoughts exactly. Go to the source, go to the foundry where the engines are being cast, where are the trucks coming from that are dumping off the raw material used? I bet it’s a cheap Chinese recycling factory.
Yes. I bought a 'stainless steel' exhaust system for an old car I'm restoring. Made in China of course. Has pitted areas with clearly iron (red) oxide around the pits, even despite a heavy coat of oil and the tubes wrapped in plastic. Obviously impure material.
I think lots of older engines were overbuilt to be on the safe side. But with modern engineering available (ie. Computer validation) they’ve been pushing things to the limit. Those bearings are probably *just* large enough to handle the loads the computer says they can handle. And one theory floating around online is these 3.5s suffer from a design flaw that causes frequent, momentary oil starvation in the main bearings.
I also think it has to do with oil viscosity too to my knowledge I know the new Ram inline 6 they run 5W-30 and for the high output it's 5W-40 now, I myself own a 2020 Silverado that requires 0w 20 an oil change interval is I believe 7,000 MI but I choose to put 5W-30 in and change it every 3000 Miles now so far I haven't had any lifter tick
Count me in on the repair conversation. Mine just got towed in this past Thursday with the exact same engine sound. Got a video before it got towed if you would like it. Case manager is working on my issue supposedly on the path forward. Studying my states labor laws now. Loved the truck and everything about it before this happened but can’t keep it now.
You are saving a lot of people a ton of frustration. Thanks for your work. I know I won't be buying a new Toyota anytime soon. It's a shame how far they've fallen so quickly.
I would, but only if it was built in Japan, and if I was rich. I drive a 1998 (built in 1997) five speed manual Nissan Sentra. It has been very reliable.
@@fortheloveofnoise- The same engine is used in made-in-Japan Lexus models for years, and with the same kind of issues. It’s a bad engine no matter where it’s built.
part of the problem is Chronic Dealership Automobile Industry Disorder (C-DAID). No matter what I have repaired or serviced, they seem to always fix or service one thing but break or mess up another. Do an oil change- leave off the oil cap. Fix a Rear Cross Traffic Sensor - break the fuse box cover. Replace the Blindspot sensor in the rear bumper - bumper is reinstalled crookedly. It’s almost like they do this on purpose-or are they just incompetent? Pick your favorite reason. The service manager got so mad at me one time because I publicly called them incompetent. I said the if not incompetent the only other available possibility for this mess up is that you do it on purpose. He decided he wants to pick incompetence instead.
The 4 runner is still assembled in Japan.This is truly the last of the great Toyota vehicles,With the v6…Do not buy 2025..starting next year….junk engine 4v with a turbo….really too bad…
Most long interval recommended oil changes are (a marketing ploy) for "normal use", defined as no short trips, no city driving. In other words just about everyone's driving usage is in the extreme category requiring frequent oil changes.
10k oil changes might matter unless it’s the 5.7. My boss has a 2011 Tundra TRD off-road DC. He has never changed or serviced any fluid except for the oil at which he did 10k oil changes. The truck is pretty beat up from other people hitting it and he never fixed. He drives it to work every day and it has 257,000 miles on it. When I had initially asked him what services he had done ie. trans diffs etc. on it he says. “ you don’t change those fluids or you will have nothing but problems. I park my 2019 next to his and our engines sound identical despite the vast mileage difference. Mine has 15,700 miles. Btw I plan on doing all my fluid changes. 😂Though I would share.
I keep seeing 3rd Gen Tundras certified used, with less than 3K miles. My thoughts are that the Twin Turbo V6 is hitting high torque at low RPM, while the oil pressure is still low. Toyota should be supplying complete crate motors. If they damaged my paint, they would be replacing with factory painted pieces, not repainting them. $30K+ to replace a motor out of warranty is ridiculous. Toyota is going to have to extend their drivetrain warranty out to 250,000 before I would touch one. I've owned 1976 Long Bed Pickup, 1982 Celica GTS, 1986 Xtra Cab 4wd, 1992 4Runner, 1997 4Runner, 2001 Tundra AC 4.7L 4wd, 1994 Land Cruiser, 2003Tundra AC 4.7L 2wd, 2006 Tundra AC 4.7L 4wd
Yea I'm told that the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel had a ton of crank bearing failures for the same reason, lugging the engine at engine RPM's low enough that the oil pressure was insufficient for all the torque being produced. The V35A definitely generates big torque down low and obviously they tuned the transmission to keep RPM down low. One the oil is sheared down and hot, the oil film on the bearings just isn't enough. I don't know how this wasn't discovered during pre-production testing. a
@@fehlrock Of the 13 or 14 vehicles I've owned since the late 1970's, 9 have been Toyotas. I currently own a 2006 Tundra AC Limited 4wd (my 3rd 1st Gen Tundra) and a 1993 Land Cruiser.
I'm a retired Toyota forklift mechanic and guess what we were having the same problem with the larger 10,000 LB. Trucks. We had constant failure of water pumps, Distributor bearings, Steer axles that would snap and many other problems and Toyota was Oblivious to what we were saying and just ignored us, but if we lost a customer to another shop guess who they blamed, the mechanic! It was so frustrating for all of us, and a lot of the guys just walked away. It's the Toyota culture that breeds this !
@@seinundzeiten My son bought a new Honda Civic (Nice Car) has had two recalls for A/C problems and we both are very happy with their performance along with the professionalism. I highly recommend the Honda line of products.
@@seinundzeitenHonda seems to be not as reliable as they used to be, but they still are 150k+ mile cars so you can't really blame them given the extreme government restrictions now
I owned a 2009 and 2014 Tundra, both with the bulletproof 5.7L. Never had a damn problem with either. I now own a 2003 Tacoma TRD Off Road (bought it new in Dec 2002) and a 2021 Tacoma TRD Pro (also bought new in Nov 2020)... never any problems. I love their 6-cyl NA engines. Screw these new twin turbos that aren't worth a crap. Both my RELIABLE Tacomas are in HIGH demand. I'll never replace them with these new Toyotas.
@@xXlURMOMlXx Their V6s suck too? Are you crazy? As reliable as a Swiss watch and as dependable as a sunset. Why do you think 1st Gen and 2nd Gen Tacomas (and 3rd, too) have such an insanely low depreciation? 😂😂😂. My nearly mint 2003 TRD Off Road was purchased for 19K at the end of 2002 by me. I can sell it today for a minimum of 13K with 180K miles. I can't park it at a grocery store without someone leaving me a note on the windshield asking to buy it. GTFOH 🤣🤣🤣
@@ElChupahuahuayou sound like a full laugh now somebody will confront you and kick you in the ass and might even kill you it's making comments like that the end of the world is near buddy 3 years ago I was able to get 15000 for my two-wheel drive Tacoma 2003 not anymore right now in New York over here I'll be lucky to get what I paid for a 6500 a couple years ago and it's like brand new it only cost $10,000 brand new but you know the deal I don't even use the thing I bought it and it's sitting 3 years and I can start right up but I choose not to
Owned a 2001 Tundra and a 2005 Tundra TRD and those two trucks were tanks. That 2005 had close to 300K when I sold it and still running great and everything was solid. I thought about the Tundra recently, but went with a 2023 F150 2.7L 4x4 and SO glad I did. Would not won a Tundra anymore these days.
They didn't willingly make this mistake, the Federal Government via the EPA forced them to take such risks to meet the requirements for fuel mileage and emissions.
Nobody wants a rebuilt engine from a dealership. It’s gonna last just a few miles out of the warranty and it’s no longer their problem. Been there and done that. That Toyota with the rebuilt engine is going to be sold back to the dealership.
This happened when Ford went to this package and is still happening, happened to a friend's Ford last month. I knew it was going to be an issue due to Ford so I bought my new Tundra earlier than planned to get the rock solid v8.
Oh yes it's very Rock Solid I took a bunch of BB balls and ball bearings and cut off nail heads and threw it in my oil and it's still that it hasn't making any sound in the motor it's running smooth as can be with all that crap metal like dumped inside the oil and gas so
I was buying a new truck in 2021 right around the time when everyone was waiting for the release of the new Tundra. I was waiting for my ordered vehicle, trying to decide if I should cancel and go with the Tundra. I'm SO glad I didn't. My Ford Powerstroke has been perfect. I'm sorry to see what's happening to Toyota. What a shame. Now people are choosing (of all makes) NISSAN over the new 2024 Tacoma, which has already come to light as yet another fail.
Our auto industry is doomed imo. 8 injectors on a 4 cylinder. Its not worth it man. I ride dr650 with 1 carburator and 1 cylinder. Uf yiu tried to sell me the same bike with 2 carbs and 1 cylinder id be pissed because bow i have 2 carb jobs to do. Why are we putting 8 injectors on 4 cylinders. I dontnthink the .3 mpg is all that worth the future cost. Im sure since theyre pumping oht gazillions of injectors for 4 cylinders thw average quality of each probably trending down too. Soon theyll be telling us all those previously ultra reliable injectors are actually going bad and now you have a v8 amount of injectore to replace on your fucking cvt corolla 😂😂 they dont want yoy to fix it they want you to sendnit to the recycling plant and buy another one. No thanks. Thats called a scam artist robbery. Lwt me get into cheese burger making and ill sell burgers with the middle chopped out so only beed is exposed aroumd the edge of the bun so people think they get a whole burger and then what ill do with the extra beef ive safedn is ill make another burger with bo meat in the middle and only around the edge so I can sell 2 burgers cor 1 burgers worth of meat. And i will make more money than i already have at expense of everyone else who shouldnt have trusted me. Thats how i see our auto industry. Japan included. Nothing but cheeseburgers for sale and if you chop the burger in half its like a bible in a prison where they hollowed out the middle to smuggle contraband 😂 why woukd i read that book if the entire salvation was ripped right out in order to cram in all this sin? 😂 what ever happened to a metal engine with metal engine covers and not the Cheapest seals humanly possible with 4 injectors in the port. Whatever tranmission the 99 camry had is all we need. A 6 speed or something. Id rather get 32 mpg instead of 40 if it means my car lasts longer than 10 years man. I want to buy the car own it for ten years then sell it to my own busienss as a used beater and its gotta be reliable. This whole 10 year lifespan for a car i never voted for that and my money certainly wont be financing it as i dont support slavery
I’ll never get a turbo again darn pieces of s#it ! My RDX turbo didn’t make it beyond 110k with regular maintenance! Turbo on a truck will even be worse !
I almost traded my 21 Tacoma in for a 24. Crazy price and I don’t trust the 4 banger turbo. Was thinking about the Tundra and keep seeing vids like this. Nope just going to hangout and see
I had a 2024 Toyota Grand Highlander, it only had 6000 miles on it and my transmission failed, it stayed at the dealership for 2 months, I did a lemon law claim and I got most of my money back.
@@johneldorado Thanks you. Way to many haters in here acting like Chevy, Dodge, Ford and Toyota wanted to kill off the V8 option of their trucks and suv's.
@@sn4rl277 People really think some bureaucrat knows more than real engineers. V8s were in these vehicles because they made the most sense. Powerful, durable, and simple. But with the new laws, we get these crazy complicated engines all to save like $10 a month in fuel.
Damn... Never would have seen this coming from a Toyota Tundra, let alone a Toyota. I will say, my 4 Runner 5th gen has been a blessing... No issues and running smooth at 140k.
People asked my why I bought an '02 Sequoia. I told them I don't want to go into debt and I don't want to worry about it. 7 years later, I still don't worry about it, despite being 22 years old and with 360k+ miles. It's paid off and I spend ~$1200 a YEAR in maintenance and repairs. These new 3.5TT are killing the reputation Toyota once held, and it's a shame.
I have a 2003 with 225k runs perfect and would drive it anywhere. Getting ready to have the interior reupholstered show it little love and hopefully drive it another 200k
Why is it a shame back in 2002 things are a little bit better now 20 years later The Whole World's f***** up so why should Toyota be the same why not be f***** up too
@@blinkguy4ever If all the automakers had simply circled the wagons and used their considerable marketing clout to let the car buying public know (and respond to Congress) about how they (the manufacturers) were being forced to drop the "American!" V8 engines, I think the EPA/CAFE could have been forced to back off. But the automakers tucked their tails between their collective legs, and this is the result.
But then they won’t get govt $$ and tax credits, so their profit margins would shrink. When corporate profit margins shrink, they increase customer costs to compensate
Glad I could help. I think revisiting them in 2025 we'll know more about this issue and whether it's a design flaw or in fact debris from manufacturing causing the issue.
I put over 400K miles on my 2010 Tundra 5.7 V8. It still ran and looked perfectly. I sold it to my cousin when I bought my 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road, double cab, 6’ bed with the premium and technology pkgs as I needed a smaller truck and the 23 Tacoma was the last year before Toyota made the mistake of dropping the 4cyl turbo into the Tacoma. And hell no, I Never go over 5K miles in changing my oil.
Just retired Friday. 27 years as a public educator. Just when I can afford buying a Tacoma, I don’t want one anymore. I was looking to drop down a few years to a used 2020, but they’re asking too much. Wow, now you’re covering exactly what I was typing. Great video. I’d be out of my gourd if I went through the experience Chris is. Because of the poor service, insulting customer service, there’s no way I want a Toyota.
I have a 2008 Tundra, Double Cab, 8 foot bed , 5.7 V8, purchased new in November 2007. Just passed 300,000 miles. I do tow, not every week but more than occasionally (4,000 to 10,000 lbs.). New transmission about 70,000 miles ago. Next truck will be 3/4 ton.
"And he's supposed to trust these people rebuilt his engine..." That's the main reason I dumped my Subaru STI, engine blew up at 31k, replaced under warranty, never trusted it afterward.
Why did you even buy that machine designed to keep you a perpetual poverty slave americant by witch the world abuses as a wallet and trashcan for junk chinese trash product via endless mechanical issues costing you all your worth. Hage fun going to work 8 hours a day just to spend it on a transmission. Wow FReEDOm!
It's refreshing to see die-hard Toyota fans starting to wake up and realize they aren't the gold standard they thought they were. They are just like every other business trying to make money for their stockholders by cutting costs and increasing profits
@jeanclaude7018Tacos have been made in Mexico for a while. Not standing up for them tho lol the Tundras have been a headache but the Tacos at least the 3rd gen was fine
I was saying that after all the unacceptable issues with the 3rd gen Tacoma. Sadly the 3rd gen Tundra is even worse. There are a lot of 3rd gen Tacomas with engine failures, as well as many getting lemon'd.
@@hochhaul I dont see that at all. I work at a Toyota dealership and we have had a few 3G Tundras with issues but not Tacos the 3G Taco has been a great little truck we did a trans on one that got overheated but thats it really and we are a high volume service dealer also. The 3.5 was a great little motor
I had a 2020 tundra and loved it. The 5.7 was a badass engine. Fast forward to 2024 and I decided to get a new truck. I now have a ram 1500 because I am not buying a new tundra with that crap engine. My wife also bought a brand new 2024 Camry because the new ones are all hybrid. Give me old and reliable. Hopefully we can get enough time out of them for Toyota to tighten up.
We have been a Toyota family for a while’s talked about trading an old one for a new one and every Toyota tech we have talked to when servicing ours has told us to NOT DO IT.
The problem is the government forcing vehicle manufacturers to have carbon neutral requirements to make tiny engines to get higher gas mileage. It's ridiculous but the people and environmental organizations voted and pushed for this. So now consumers are paying for this. 🤦♂️
What kind of air do you what to breathe? At what point do you notice our planet is dying, what are we leaving our kids. Damm right we need cleaner, efficient transportation.
@@mediaisthevirus exactly, airplanes use thousands of gallons of fuel and all that waste byproduct is just raining down us but I guess that's okay as long as they're making millions from the airlines
Same. Toyota fan boy here. Tedt drove the new Tundras in all formats. Nothing turned me on. Drove a 2023 Tremor. Traded in my 2021 Tumdra thst had 18k miles. Love the F150 Tremor. It's an actual truck.
This is why I laugh when people say "latest technology" like that automatically means BETTER. Toyota has built bulletproof engines for decades then this "latest technology" shows up😒.
@@speed8701bro, we've had people building cars for 100+ years. This is not some "new tech" Everything has been done with cars before. This is just bad build quality from a degrading company
It's legit really sad what's happening to Toyota. Legendary brand known for affordable vehicles that would roll on for half a million miles with minimal maintenance without breaking a sweat. Now becoming known for overpriced timebombs. What the heck 😞
If i had this truck and have decided to keep it long term, I would install a bypass oil filter. They're afew hundred dollars and will filter most of the contaminates the normal oil filters cannot catch. It also has the extra benefit of extending oil change intervals if you choose to do so. They're a more popular option on larger diesel engines but can have the same benefit here.
Same, always been a Toyota/chevy fan, in 2022 it was time to upgrade my truck and went with the Silverado instead of the tundra, no regrets. My 2018 Tacoma had rust in the front axel so I traded it in before it got worse. I can only imagine what issues we will see in the new Tacoma’s.
I was about to trade my 2021 Laramie to get a 2024 Tundra, I am glad the I watched a few Tundra reviews like this one. I will wait a few more years because I have no issues so far with my Ram. Great takes on the Tundra. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
What's with the praying hands why cuz you're a Dodge Chrysler person yeah buddy I know a couple people over here then the biggest dirt bags and losses they got brand new Dodge and Jeep products so what's that all about man what are you praying for and what do we got to pray for you praying for me cuz you drive a Dodge yeah man don't you know the Dodge Durango is the biggest welfare wagon the Dodge Ram is the white man's trash so will you pray for me tell me your mother gave you the vehicle and see driving directions so you can afford man it's a deal yeah so whatever you know yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I know I know
The oil change interval isn’t the problem, this is a tolerance problem. My guess is the difference in expansion between the steel and aluminum in that lower end griddle might be the culprit.
I own a 18 and thought about upgrading but it’s hard to give a known bulletproof engine for an experimental phase one. Oil change is done every 5 and I never believed the 10k interval is too long even with synthetic oil. As a Subaru turbo owner, I change the oil every 3500 because it has a filter by the turbo and if it gets clogged, the turbo starves.
@@JoseR-bw2gs My parents tried to order a 2023 Sequoia Capstone, thank god the dealers couldn't find one at the time. Instead, they went with a 2023 4Runner Limited.
What has happened to Toyota! I am a decades old Toyota customer. I still drive my 2006 Toyota 4Runner V8 Sport Edition, trouble free! My only expenses, synthetic oil changes, new tires, new batteries, and new passenger side tie rod boots.
No substitution fir displacement, you can fool a small engine into thinking there’s more air that there is ie turbo, super charger but it won’t last. I snuck in under the wire and got a 5.7 long box. VERY HAPPY
One thing for certain its a hell of a job ! And most likely will not be done promptly or correctly ! These engines were rushed into production so most likely not tested fully for reliability ! Same with the older 5.7 were toyota recalled 350,000 for failing engines ! And looking at all model year tundra sales #'s they dont come close to gm or ford even dodge !
I traded out of my 2023 Tundra and was happy to have only "lost" 5K over my one year of ownership. Traded into a Gas Ram 2500 and fortunately with Ram's slow sales I had enough incentives and such to get that truck at a decent price. Now I see my old Tundra on the used lot sitting there for an outrageous price! Apparently the Ram dealership doesn't know of the Tundra's issues. Glad to be out of that truck. Even without the engine failure the fit and finish on the Ram is actually significantly better than the Tundra. Such a disappointment for Toyota.
That's so crazy to hear "the fit and finish on the Ram is actually significantly better", words I never thought I'd see uttered anywhere :). Glad you like the Ram, I keep hearing great things about them in the comments but I just haven't owned one, yet.
Man I’m sorry for what these folks are going through, can’t say anything about the Tundra, but RUST issues did me with Tacomas both on my 2002 and 2015 Tacoma’s.
I'm not typing so in other words when when third of me good stuff nobody maintained it correctly and it turned out to be garbage on the market high-priced garbage that's still on the market now they give me garbage that blows up in a month hey I don't blame them cuz they never maintain this s*** in the first place so now just blow it all up make garbage
2004 GMC Yukon xl original motor, original transmission, 287,000 miles and keeps on going still runs exceptionally well and doesn’t even smoke, just keep up with maintenance is key, don’t like all this so called technology in newer vehicles
Toyota has lost me as a customer and several of my family members. I’ve had bad experiences with both the sales and service departments recently. Not sure what changed over the last couple years. Now they are forcing hybrids and turbo engines on everyone. I’d rather have a reliable sluggish V8. There doesn’t seem to be an improvement on gas mileage and who really needs to have extra horsepower power between red lights.
So glad I followed my gut earlier this year and bought a 2021 Platinum with 26k miles. It was pricey (6k less than original sticker), but worth it compared to these twin turbos.
Get a Nissan Titan while you still can. 400hp V8, no stop/start, no cylinder deactivation, 100k mile warranty, and they've been making it for 20+ years. I know Nissan ain't what it used to be, but it's about the last honest half ton you can buy new. Fully loaded Pro-4X with every option for $65k. Edit: After further investigation these are not reliable and you should basically just stick to GMT800's and 1st/2nd Gen Tundras.
@@TheCarGuyOnline Maybe Nissan should rethink this if it isn't too late. I think in light of the Toyota fiasco, they might seize the opportunity to gain a bigger chunk of the pickup truck market rather quickly.
Too bad, I was looking at buying a 2024 Limited. Damn that sucks, however, what's interesting is that I have never seen this much passion when GM had and STILL has 8 speed transmission issues, nor have I seen this for Ford's 10 speed transmission issues. I don't deny that Toyota has engine issues but we tend to stay a little quiet when the domestics have similar big ticket item issues. Hmmm strange? I don't so lol.
There's definitely some bias going on here. I'm a big toyota fan but I don't deny they've had their fair share of issues all of which are eventually corrected!
I was waiting since 2014 for an all new tundra and when they announced this would include a Turbo I walked away from Toyota. I do not buy anything with a Turbo and this is why.
But noooo… they said these new model V6 super Twin-Turbinator motors were Uber reliable. They said they were in the LS500 and it’s all good. 😅 Bring back the V8’s… 👊
Oh they told you the super duper on human sacrifice the lupus stupid number 22 number one power bank on calculated truck of turn back the clock yeah and you fell for that dog yeah the super duper motor it's better than the 10-year-old Johnny Knoxville with the bearing noise dog
I almost bought a 24 Land Cruiser the other day… interest rates scared me away as well as knowing it’s a new model year. We will see what issues they have over the next few years and maybe I will reconsider. They look pretty
UPDATE! 98,600 TUNDRAS JUST RECALLED FOR THIS PROBLEM --> th-cam.com/video/mkZUTIprAPU/w-d-xo.html
This makes me wonder if drivers are purposefully damaging their vehicles so they can get the new EV trucks
I wouldn't be surprised if the 2026 refresh is to add a V8 engine, and scrap the whole eco turbo experiment. Especially if Trump wins presidency & changes eco laws. Eventhough the main reason is Toyotas own eco initiative.
That is called a girdle.
It is a very stronge way to support the mains and crankshaft.
To bad Toyota is chocking.
You know more than that are affected
Should've just went with a more fuel efficient v8....😂😂 smdh
We are watching the end of Toyota’s legacy as affordable, reliable vehicles. RIP
Wild huh. How fast toyota went down hill. Almost faster than the great collapse of california
@@TheAnnoyingBoss more like the california decay lol
لدينا في الشرق الأوسط نفس هذا المحرك على تويوتا لاندكروزر الجيل الاخير لم تستفد تويوتا من فشل ذلك المحرك ولم تغير ذلك العيب ولم تقم باصلاحه انها تصر على الفشل حتى بعد مضي سنتين على اصداره
Neither reliable or affordable. They think their loyal fans will never jump ship lol. I'm hearing lots of people on YT buying other brands now. Nobody wants to pay their yota tax anymore.
This only applies to models not built in Japan. Toyota vehicles builr in Japan are built much better. I would only buy a Japanese car built in Japan (if we are talking modern vehicles).
Good! As a Toyota fan. F Toyota honestly. Them dealer Markups are crazy and they do nothing about it. And now this. They deserve it.
No one is forcing you to pay dealer markups. If you did, it’s all on you, buddy.
@@overlandbyday1130 Maybe he didn't. Maybe he wanted a Toyota and couldn't find one at a dealer in his area that wasn't marked up. I've made comments about dealer mark ups as well. I didn't buy a dealer marked up vehicle. I would have much preferred to buy at my local dealer rather that waste a weekend going to pick up the truck two states away.
Toyota is worth 5x what tesla is in yen. Theyre so big and rich theyre basically scamming. Their behicles suck extra and cost extra at the same time. You midaswell just give japan all your money because the keep our loney sellingnus shotboxes that dont laat sp we end up behind and they end up ahead.
We have a Toyota dealer in the Denver area who hasn’t had any markups, even during Covid. Mountain States Toyota.
Sounds like a dealer ownership/management problem instead.
@@yayinternets still a acam. I wouldnt take it if you gave it for free because I dont want to pay to keep it going it will only cost a lot and because its crap it will only go up
I work at toyota as a tech and we’ve had plenty come in blown. Worst i’ve seen is a guy bought a brand new tundra less than 10 miles and the engine blew before he drove off the lot, replaced it with a short block, came back a week later low oil pressure.
Hahaha I bet you the sales manager which was laughing his ass off when that guy drove out the lot yeah after the a****** paid $50,000 yeah no counting that money as he drove off from a little motor hahaha yeah
@@jamescostello7584 yup, these new trucks are for yuppies that don’t know anything. No real man’s man would touch the 22 and up models. It’s a yuppie mobile.
@@lynch42othat’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on the internet, and that’s really saying something.
@@matthewhinkle9437 no mans man would touch a fullsize v6 truck.
@@lynch42o I think you have a pretty skewed opinion on what a man’s man is.
Toyota Master Tech here, all I’m going to say about the new Tundra engine is
”BEWARE“.
I’ve seen my fare share, things I just can’t discuss due to still working for Toyota.
At your own risk!
@@Gone_huntinggthe 100horsepower tundra 😂😂😂
You ain’t gonna work there to much longer
I would rather keep feeding my thirsty 5.7 tundra then to buy a new tundra
@@swampbass6494 the tundra with 100 horsepower 😂😂
@@nahs3195imagine acting like a 12 year old on here.
RIP Tundra. Should have kept the V8. It was already reliable and could easily go a million miles. Absolutely stupid decision by Toyota.
It was the government regulations that forced them out. They wouldn't be able to sell them in the US with those emissions
@@christianrobloxserver7282 you're completely wrong because Toyota has more carbon credits than any other automaker including Ford and Ford is still building V8 engines in not only the mustang but their full-sized trucks as well. Toyota was clearly trying to copy the supposed success of the EcoBoost which is laughable due to their issues as well. You should really do more research next time.🤣
Dude they had no choice, the EPA has forced all vehicle manufactures off V-8's with the upcoming EPA standards for trucks and SUV's. Toyota is a manufacture that loves to sell v-8 Trucks and SUV's, and a few cars as well. Stop acting like Toyota pulled the plug here, the Government did this years ago and manufactures are being force off low MPG engines.
Wake up.... it's a great decision. Planned obsolescence. Consumers need to wake up. It's happening to ALL consumer products
Now they're playing roulette with the Taco's. Will those turbo 4 bangers be reliable? I wouldn't take a chance with it which is why I went with a NA V6 Frontier.
My wife was actually right on target when she told me to buy a 2021 Tundra before the new ones came out
U have a smart wife, Mac 😉
U made a mistake buying a 2nd tier truck . Period.
@@Davido50well no one can afford that garbage ford, ram, gmc trucks… a v8 tundra will out last those other trucks
She is a keeper.
she is smart
Just handed off my 2000 4Runner as a graduation gift. 400k miles and still kicking.
That's awesome.
Damn, my 98 only has 360k, but it is still a daily driver.
I was thinking about selling my 2019 4Runner. Nah
I just bought a 1985 Toyota diesel pickup with 98000 kilometres
I have 96 4Runner with 275k and still my daily. I have ordered a 2024 4Runner before they go 4cyl turbo
Depreciating faster than an EV after an EMP pulse. 🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Yeah, that was a good one.
If you think anything on the road today built in the last 10 years is surviving better than an ev your dreaming
@Bornintheseat Yeah but it was still a fun joke :). I own a Tesla too BTW.....crazy fun to drive.
Or really cold weather...
😂
I replaced an engine block on one of these at work last December with 15k miles on it, it had a spun rod bearing. took damn near 30 days waiting on parts, and the heads were sent out to a machine shop so that took an extra week, got shafted from Toyota on warranty pay big time too. You gotta feel bad for the customer though, they paid 80k for this mortgage on wheels and are being told it has to be ripped apart. The customer came back in the shop to get something out of the truck when I was working on his motor, cab in the air frame on the ground, motor down to the block, his eyes were in disbelief.
Sounds like some former Stellantis managers went to work for Toyota...
Or a current Chrysler employee went to Toyota to sabotage it
Exactly! The problem is Toyota's North American MANAGEMENT!! In Japan the management would act VEY VERY differently! They are not standing by Toyota reputation and they are trying to squeeze customers for the last penny. Do not answerer their surveys because they use these surveys to gauge how they can give you less ad less for you money. And if you answer these surveys just tank them in every single category.
😂😂😂😂
@@dimdim3490 Yeah it's never Toyota's fault, is it.
Buy straight from Japan if you want quality! Everything import made in the USA is scrap!
Absolutely shameful on Toyota
Toyota managed to go from the highest reputation to amongnthe lowest so fast. Its wild how if you blinked you coulda missed how fast that huge collapse was we have just seen toyota go into. 2 or 5 10 years ago their cars felt like double the quality and half the price. They bait and switch us.
Sad to say, Toyota has definitely lost their way
Toyota’s dealerships were absolutely the worst during the pandemic. People put up with it cause their cars were still some of the best bang for bucks vehicles. They were reliable and low maintenance.
Now their MSRPs are out of this world ridiculous. Base models are decent, but add any useful feature or trim and you’ll be paying almost 1/3 the cost of the car on top of the initial price. It doesn’t help that the dealers add an additional 4k for accessories while adding mark ups.
It doesn’t help that there are rumors that cooperate purposely decreased output so that Toyotas could be artificially inflated. So Toyota deserves all the hate they’re getting.
@@greensleeves8095 exactly. I ordered a Tacoma in 2022 and cancelled it because it was supposed to be 6 weeks and never showed up at the 2 month mark. Also couldn’t accept the idea of paying a 6k market adjustment.
Blame you're government
It’s not only the tundra, it’s anything with the new twin-turbo V6 that’s giving main bearing issues
Manufacturing location is not the issue either. Problems are global.
Seriously everything turbo to increase power on lean efficient engines. Trucks should rarely have turbos! All that carbon lock and burnt oil has a super detrimental effect.
@Bolthrower91 Turbos aren't really the issue it's more shitty components in the new engines that companies use to try save $. Also any truck made during covid is a no go.
Toyota is eventually going to have to replace ALL engines before they can be trusted.
Mever trust toyota. They were scam artists even in their peak admit it. There was plastic wear parts that shouldnt have been plastic even back in the 90s
Maybe the 5.7 will fit 😂
Yeah with a NA
@myckeee the turbo isn't the issue. You could slap a S/C on the 5.7 and still get 500k+ miles out of it.
@@victoriousvictor7978 yes you can
Once the engine comes out, you better sell your car immediately. Former tech here, we were physically unable to put engines in the right way because we were quite literally fighting against time, the time that warranty gave us, which is INSANE. In a tech world, we are calling warranty jobs, free jobs for a reason, and everyone Hates big warranty jobs because they know they will be working basically for free and because of that techs are doing HORRIBLE jobs, because nobody wants to lose money, since we all have to pay bills at the end of the day.
Yup I guarantee toyota is going to screw the flat rate techs on replacing the short blocks in these tundras, probably pay 18hrs or some ridiculously low time.
They(all dealers) really have to scrap the flat-rate policy.
You all need to refuse to do the job untill corporate starts to listen. As a whole if you stand together shit will change.
@victoriousvictor7978 There are too many company men out there now a days that will just do as they are told without question.
Im a bodyman on the line in a fast paced high production bodyshop and i concur, the same with repairs in my world. 30 hours to completely tear down a Grand Wagoneer for a roof replacement. Headliner, side air bags, two sunroof’s, over head console must be taken out and they call it included operation. I learned how to fix cars right then i figured out what corners i can cut because my back is against the clock flagging commission hours.
Ive been a mechanic for almost forty years, the last decade part time ...this crap is why I stopped bothering with getting business and have retired altogether after seeing the ridiculously complicated modules and Canbus systems. Unserviceability is up to critical levels, not to mention the expensive tools needed to work on the newest vehicles. People need to get ahold of the real reliable cars and trucks of the past and maintain them because soon new cars will only be affordable for millionaires and governments.
I would take an old V-8 Tundra anyday over this new junk.
2nd gen gets my vote for the best half ton of all-time. Looks, stock power, reliability, everything put together; at that time in 2007 is incredible.
Sad what’s going on, man. What can you say?
V6 or v8 hybrid is better than turbo hybrid!
They should’ve kept the big engine and use the hybrid system to increase the fuel efficiency.
Instead they we t with a small engine and use the hybrid to give it more power.
The truck was designed and manufactured in the USA and not in Japan. Which to me, it’s the biggest problem and the root cause.
@The_Top_Gun. I bought my 2008 sequoia with 258k miles. I've only put like 10k miles in it in 3 years. but it looks and works great. Zero issues other than the tiny oil seepage that the 5.7 is known for. Will keep getting old sequoias or tundras until I get to the 2022 model
@@troytruong8246 Yeah the only truck I want with a turbo on it is a diesel.
If this weren't such a publicized issue, Toyota wouldn't be doing any warranty coverage. Before social media it took class action lawsuits to get them to do anything.
Yeah I suppose at least now the people have some hope that they can get repairs. I would hate to have this happen out of warranty though.
Toyota has a good history of issuing recalls... Unlike EVERY other manufacturer. Look at Ford with the "deathwobble" that has legitimately killed people.
I believe you are thinking of GM.
lol you people make me laugh
Love your videos, plain spoken and honest, always with the facts - appreciate you, thank you!!
I miss the older cars that had reliable simple engines, that one could work on themselves.
Bought a used 03 RAM 2500. Done with new vehicles
I live in a 2000 Toyota Sienna.
Same. Thinkin bout getting another midsize dodge. Plenty of truck for handywork i do. And reliable. Shame what autoindustru has become..wish we could boycott all of them
Just bought a 04’ Camry southern car (absolutely no rust) with 60k miles on her.
I plan to drive it for another 300k miles.
I might even buy one or two more and keep them in the garage for later use.
Smart!
New Toyota Tacoma was designed really similar to tundra. Seeing all these issues on the new tundras pushed me to get a new nissan frontier pro4x.
@TheRealCatof the Frontier has never been a bad truck, and now that they've kept the naturally aspirated V6, it's probably better than the 24 Taco.
Yup, that's what I did. I've had mine exactly two months now.
The Tacoma is similar but I’m positive the tacos hold their value with awesome reliability
@TheRealCatof afaik Nissan is only known for CVT failures which their trucks do not use. I've never heard of major issues on the Frontier.
Huge mistake should have just bought last gen taco??? Nissan is horrible
That’s why I love Nissan. I know their trucks aren’t superior but one thing I do know is they haven’t changed their engines in quite a few years. They’re still running V8 and V6 is naturally aspirated no turbo that’s the key all these newer cars don’t want to turbo all engines are blowing
nissan has great quality. love my infiniti
Sad news is titan is being discontinued
@jibberjabber-fm6pb yeah nissan has gone woke like toyota and honda...nothing but hybrids with 4 cylinder turbos and electrics. glad i bought 2 new gas only vehicles in the past 2 years while i still could
That’s why I’m never getting rid of my 2015 1794 tundra just hit 94k miles . 5.7 iforce V8 forever
im looking for a 2009 tundra
@@westcoastbasskickers9935 I heard the 2010 Tundra was the best year to buy
It’s a good thing you got a 2015 cause 07-10 models were braking valve springs left and right, that’s why nobody really cared for tundras, and now with there 2024 models having epic engine failures, how can anybody feel proud of there investment knowing that both the older and later gen have the worse resale value.
I have a 2014 1794.
Will NEVER get rid of it.
I would never be able to buy a tundra but think it is important that people like you are sounding the warning on bad cars and trucks. The OEM's need to realize they can't hide issues in this day and age of youtube and they need to step up the quality.
Never say never, specially with that depreciation rate, you might be able to buy the newest one in maybe two years more from now?
Thanks for the info, I'm currently looking to buy one and have a 2025 Tundra TRD Pro order and your videos are giving me second thoughts, the dealership says its going to be about 6-8 months of a wait time, which means I still have time to cancel and get my deposit back. (they are nice enough to refund me the deposit).
I did talk to the dealership about the concern of the engine failures that I see on the internet, and they told me that Toyota had a recall earlier this year(2024) and already got the problem fixed. I know they want to sell me the car and could be just promising about something they are not sure of.
Is there any info from Toyota saying that they are gonna fix this problem? Maybe the 2025 model would have a better engine, or same engine but improved?
It’s very hard to determine if the root cause is fixed yet. There have been some 2024s with the same main bearing issue, but a lot fewer than 2022 and 2023s. I hope the 2025s would be safe from the “debris” issues but only time will tell. If Toyota is being truthful about the root cause, it stands to reason that the 2025s will in fact be safe…but as with anything in life there are no guarantees. I should have a new video out soon with regard to how Toyota is fixing the issue currently, crate engines are starting to show up for tundras that are recalled which is a welcomed sign for owners, it’s a much better fix than short block rebuilds.
Good luck, I guarantee you your engine was rebuilt by a few guys standing around trying to figure out how to do it based off some generic information Toyota supplies them with.
I feel bad for the techs having to deal with this. It should go to a specialized engine mechanic, or a new crate motor entirely. Toyota is being cheap to fix problems by being cheap. It aint gonna work.
@@alistairblaire6001 Someone should come up with an LS Swap kit for these.
@@HAHA.GoodMeme Techs don't care, feel bad for the customer.
Ikea pictures 😂
Bingo, rebuilding a modern engine is just a horrible job, so many pieces, hoses, clips, if you finish and you dont have any "leftover" pieces, you didnt forget anything, and the hoses/wires are routed properly, thats almost a miracle. Not a chance it will happen with a rush job.
You should research the Mercedes C43 AMG. New engine. I purchased one at christmas for my wife. Shipped it to our house ( never drove it) and surprised her on christmas morning. She did not drive it that day because we did not have insurance yet (hard to hide such things so I waited). The next day she drove it to the post office and the engine blew up. The local Mercedes dealership couldn’t care less and misdiagnosed the problem. The dealership we bought it from literally told us to “take it up with service” and hung up. I had to ship it to RBM of Atlanta at our expense (2k) and after nearly 2 months Mercedes replaced the engine. It was a bad casting and sand is being left in the block. After more research this is happening ALOT with this car and Mercedes is well aware, yet, no stop order and the dealerships just keep selling them. We are old “car people” and I have decided to never buy new again. I’m driving my 86 square body Chevy truck and i’ll be buried in it. All this new crap is just that…crap and they’re forcing the poor (literally) consumer to pay for it.
The Mercedes 6 cylinder models have been solid. Not all the new cars are bad.
Also, MB of Atlanta Northeast followed by RBM of Alpharetta are the best dealers.
How embarrassing.
That really sucks, when they know it's happening and they don't do anything about it to corrected is f****** ridiculous.
Hopefully it goes out again and you have more issues then you can get a buyback or a lemon law if that's available in your state.
Every one i know that had a Mercedes got rid of it after many problems and $$$ service.
Got the last V6 air aspirated engine Highlander in 2022 and it runs fantastic. Keeping it until it dies.
Do you still got it?💀☠️😂
Bought me a 5.7 tundra, every time i see these videos it makes me love my purchase even more
Good choice, such a reliable platform.
People still say well toyotas are super reliable so i'll buy one. Folks this is not the toyota of 5 years ago and older. Go look at the quality of them in person and compare it to a 2018 or older as a mechanic friend of mine showed me. Greed got a hold of toyota unfortunatly.
There’s a reason I’m still driving my 20yo Toyota truck with 300,000 miles on it… it’s stone reliable so I’ll rock it until I’m dead. They can bury me in it !
I was a Toyota fan and now I am considering Nissan Titan or F150
Ive put 14k on a 23 corolla with zero issues
@@sneed915 I have the 2022 Corolla with close to 60k miles and never had a problem
Tundras are made in the U.S., no wonder they're crap.
My truck was the one that you showed at the video intro. I was one of the very first people to have this failure. It was a MISERABLE experience. Everyone told me it was my fault and it was impossible, but here we are today... Toyota fixed it, but i went ahead and accepted the lemon law buy back even after I got the truck back. I can share a TON of info with you if you want.
That's crazy! If you want to share more I am very interested in the full story. Email me at cars @ thecarguyonline.com
As a decades long Toyota truck loyalist, I just bought a brand new NA V6 Nissan Frontier.
Crappy turbo engines, hollow build quality, ongoing quality concerns, insane pricing, and cartoonish bro-dozer styling were dealbreakers for a Tundra purchase, or for that matter, a new Tacoma purchase. $39K OTD for a loaded Frontier SV crew cab long bed. Quiet, comfortable, powerful, well assembled. It’s the NA truck Toyota should have built.
Nissan announced they're going 100% EV.
That's your issue. You've been driving 2nd tier vehicles for yrs. Ford trucks & Lincoln SUVs all we've ever owned.
Google Nissan V6 is with s*** for years along with the and they always been s*** and always made that type of model so tired already made that type of model I make good s*** now they're making sure so what makes you think that that truck is going to be good when all other Nissan suck I got a 1997 Nissan Sentra that's better than your truck if you don't believe me then stick your whole stick your head and the exhaust pipe and suck
How are you liking the recalls on the frontier so far.
@@theoldculture216I’ve not had a single recall on my 2022 Frontier other than a transmission software update that was performed before it was delivered to me new. Zero issues with the truck to date. It’s been reliable and sturdy as a hammer.
Next time, they should listen to their buyers. We all predicted that this would happen. Hey Toyota, if it's not broke DON'T FIX IT !!! You have multiple proven engines, and you give us this crap🤦♂️
Government mandated engines
@@Ken-wv2wg not true, Toyota could have easily kept the V8s, just like the others kept theirs.
@@overlandbyday1130 They could have kept the V8 and added a reliable mild hybrid battery to it to save MPGs. Instead they put a smaller and unreliable powertrain.
@@overlandbyday1130 I agree. They could have kept the V8s, however they would have to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in fines to the government. Dodge got rid of the hemi because they were paying a half billion dollars in fines every year due to government mandates. Dodge increased their prices to make up for the fines, and people stopped buying them.
@@overlandbyday1130the others kept theirs because they have AFM which turns their V8 into a V6/V4. Those have issues as well. Blame climate activists that managed to get into power within the government for forcing us buyers to decide between new, unreliable emission friendly vehicles or old, maybe reliable vehicles.
What usually spins these bearings in modern engines is the intersection of bearing clearance/temperature/lubrication.
My buddies has a trans leak and has been at the dealer for 32 days because the parts aren’t available. Lemon lawyer got 3 options: toyota buys back the truck at full price; he can trade it for full price; or, keep the truck, warranty, and Toyota pays him $10,000 for his frustrations.
Those options aren't too bad once you get past 30 days :). Other than the hassle, your buddy should make out OK it sounds like.
Of those options, I would choose for Toyota to buy back the truck and then buy something different.
Id dump the truck and find a nice used one with the V8 in it.
@@linhunnicutt6556 me too
That's the dumbest s*** I ever heard right there that sounds just as dumb as everything else buddy
My independent mechanic told me he's seeing a lot of newer engine failures across several brands. He believes it's a metallurgical quality issue.
Lowest cost bidder sourcing? At all manufacturers. It's akin to the poisonous sheet rock from China a decade or so ago.
Chinese steel, likely.
@@plmn93my immediate thoughts exactly. Go to the source, go to the foundry where the engines are being cast, where are the trucks coming from that are dumping off the raw material used? I bet it’s a cheap Chinese recycling factory.
Yes. I bought a 'stainless steel' exhaust system for an old car I'm restoring. Made in China of course. Has pitted areas with clearly iron (red) oxide around the pits, even despite a heavy coat of oil and the tubes wrapped in plastic. Obviously impure material.
I think lots of older engines were overbuilt to be on the safe side. But with modern engineering available (ie. Computer validation) they’ve been pushing things to the limit. Those bearings are probably *just* large enough to handle the loads the computer says they can handle. And one theory floating around online is these 3.5s suffer from a design flaw that causes frequent, momentary oil starvation in the main bearings.
This will become Toyota’s “Turbogate.”
No shit! Wow! I’m glad I couldn’t afford it cuz I wanted it so badly!
Toyota has historically made proven engines.Turbo engines weren’t their forte.
Not necessarily. The 3.0 V6 was a nightmare. Toyota isn't 100% solid @@adspur
I also think it has to do with oil viscosity too to my knowledge I know the new Ram inline 6 they run 5W-30 and for the high output it's 5W-40 now, I myself own a 2020 Silverado that requires 0w 20 an oil change interval is I believe 7,000 MI but I choose to put 5W-30 in and change it every 3000 Miles now so far I haven't had any lifter tick
3k between oil changes… 😂😂😂
@@YoyomanmanhollaI'm why not
@@gchavez43096 unecessary
Yeah if you do maintenance on your own, it's really not that expensive to do more frequent oil changes. Most people don't realize this.
@@TheCarGuyOnline time is money
Count me in on the repair conversation. Mine just got towed in this past Thursday with the exact same engine sound. Got a video before it got towed if you would like it. Case manager is working on my issue supposedly on the path forward. Studying my states labor laws now. Loved the truck and everything about it before this happened but can’t keep it now.
You are saving a lot of people a ton of frustration. Thanks for your work. I know I won't be buying a new Toyota anytime soon. It's a shame how far they've fallen so quickly.
Yikes, this is why I'll never buy another new vehicle. EVER.
I would, but only if it was built in Japan, and if I was rich.
I drive a 1998 (built in 1997) five speed manual Nissan Sentra. It has been very reliable.
@@fortheloveofnoise- The same engine is used in made-in-Japan Lexus models for years, and with the same kind of issues. It’s a bad engine no matter where it’s built.
That’s kind of a silly conclusion to come to. A majority of new cars don’t have failures like this. Especially after the first model year.
I don’t buy used vehicles cause so many people and neglect them and I want a manufacturer warranty while still paying in the car.. 🤷
Just fix what ya got, rebuild engines and transmissions as needed
part of the problem is Chronic Dealership Automobile Industry Disorder (C-DAID). No matter what I have repaired or serviced, they seem to always fix or service one thing but break or mess up another. Do an oil change- leave off the oil cap. Fix a Rear Cross Traffic Sensor - break the fuse box cover. Replace the Blindspot sensor in the rear bumper - bumper is reinstalled crookedly. It’s almost like they do this on purpose-or are they just incompetent? Pick your favorite reason. The service manager got so mad at me one time because I publicly called them incompetent. I said the if not incompetent the only other available possibility for this mess up is that you do it on purpose. He decided he wants to pick incompetence instead.
Bought a new ‘23 4Runner. Hope that 4.0L engine is still as good as in the past.
You're probably OK. That 4.0 is a great engine, very dependable.
It absolutely will be. It will be highly sought after, once the new gen 4runner comes out.
it's better. late production 4runners and tacomas will last forever.
The 4 runner is still assembled in Japan.This is truly the last of the great Toyota vehicles,With the v6…Do not buy 2025..starting next year….junk engine 4v with a turbo….really too bad…
Those were fantastic engines, entire vehicle is made in Japan :).
And the price they want for them now is insane. Lamborghini prices the vast majority of Americans can’t afford
Usa is worse than ussr right now. Biden terror regime has also done nothing but aid in the forced slaving collapse of usa
I am happy to keep my 2008 5.7.
Dumbest comment. Most Lambos new cost $200k or more
@@lukelowe918 i think the point is, to the majority of people 80-100k is just as unaffordable as 200k+
Most long interval recommended oil changes are (a marketing ploy) for "normal use", defined as no short trips, no city driving. In other words just about everyone's driving usage is in the extreme category requiring frequent oil changes.
10k oil changes might matter unless it’s the 5.7. My boss has a 2011 Tundra TRD off-road DC. He has never changed or serviced any fluid except for the oil at which he did 10k oil changes. The truck is pretty beat up from other people hitting it and he never fixed. He drives it to work every day and it has 257,000 miles on it. When I had initially asked him what services he had done ie. trans diffs etc. on it he says. “ you don’t change those fluids or you will have nothing but problems. I park my 2019 next to his and our engines sound identical despite the vast mileage difference. Mine has 15,700 miles. Btw I plan on doing all my fluid changes. 😂Though I would share.
I keep seeing 3rd Gen Tundras certified used, with less than 3K miles.
My thoughts are that the Twin Turbo V6 is hitting high torque at low RPM, while the oil pressure is still low.
Toyota should be supplying complete crate motors.
If they damaged my paint, they would be replacing with factory painted pieces, not repainting them.
$30K+ to replace a motor out of warranty is ridiculous. Toyota is going to have to extend their drivetrain warranty out to 250,000 before I would touch one.
I've owned 1976 Long Bed Pickup, 1982 Celica GTS, 1986 Xtra Cab 4wd, 1992 4Runner, 1997 4Runner, 2001 Tundra AC 4.7L 4wd, 1994 Land Cruiser, 2003Tundra AC 4.7L 2wd, 2006 Tundra AC 4.7L 4wd
Yea I'm told that the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel had a ton of crank bearing failures for the same reason, lugging the engine at engine RPM's low enough that the oil pressure was insufficient for all the torque being produced. The V35A definitely generates big torque down low and obviously they tuned the transmission to keep RPM down low. One the oil is sheared down and hot, the oil film on the bearings just isn't enough. I don't know how this wasn't discovered during pre-production testing. a
Most turbo engines do that with no issue
@socalpaul487. Do you even like Toyotas ? LMAO 🤣
@@fehlrock Of the 13 or 14 vehicles I've owned since the late 1970's, 9 have been Toyotas. I currently own a 2006 Tundra AC Limited 4wd (my 3rd 1st Gen Tundra) and a 1993 Land Cruiser.
Ended up buying a Ford F250 with a naturally aspirated gasoline engine instead of another tundra. Glad I did.
I'm a retired Toyota forklift mechanic and guess what we were having the same problem with the larger 10,000 LB. Trucks. We had constant failure of water pumps, Distributor bearings, Steer axles that would snap and many other problems and Toyota was Oblivious to what we were saying and just ignored us, but if we lost a customer to another shop guess who they blamed, the mechanic! It was so frustrating for all of us, and a lot of the guys just walked away. It's the Toyota culture that breeds this !
I guess only Honda is the only reliable Japanese auto-makers left
@@seinundzeiten My son bought a new Honda Civic (Nice Car) has had two recalls for A/C problems and we both are very happy with their performance along with the professionalism. I highly recommend the Honda line of products.
@@seinundzeitenHonda seems to be not as reliable as they used to be, but they still are 150k+ mile cars so you can't really blame them given the extreme government restrictions now
I owned a 2009 and 2014 Tundra, both with the bulletproof 5.7L. Never had a damn problem with either. I now own a 2003 Tacoma TRD Off Road (bought it new in Dec 2002) and a 2021 Tacoma TRD Pro (also bought new in Nov 2020)... never any problems. I love their 6-cyl NA engines. Screw these new twin turbos that aren't worth a crap. Both my RELIABLE Tacomas are in HIGH demand. I'll never replace them with these new Toyotas.
Same 🖐🏽
Their v6 suck too. There is more criteria other than doesn't break
@@xXlURMOMlXx Their V6s suck too? Are you crazy? As reliable as a Swiss watch and as dependable as a sunset. Why do you think 1st Gen and 2nd Gen Tacomas (and 3rd, too) have such an insanely low depreciation? 😂😂😂. My nearly mint 2003 TRD Off Road was purchased for 19K at the end of 2002 by me. I can sell it today for a minimum of 13K with 180K miles. I can't park it at a grocery store without someone leaving me a note on the windshield asking to buy it. GTFOH 🤣🤣🤣
@@ElChupahuahua mpg of a v8 and power of an i4. Is most of the fuel used to power the reliability or something lol
@@ElChupahuahuayou sound like a full laugh now somebody will confront you and kick you in the ass and might even kill you it's making comments like that the end of the world is near buddy 3 years ago I was able to get 15000 for my two-wheel drive Tacoma 2003 not anymore right now in New York over here I'll be lucky to get what I paid for a 6500 a couple years ago and it's like brand new it only cost $10,000 brand new but you know the deal I don't even use the thing I bought it and it's sitting 3 years and I can start right up but I choose not to
Owned a 2001 Tundra and a 2005 Tundra TRD and those two trucks were tanks. That 2005 had close to 300K when I sold it and still running great and everything was solid. I thought about the Tundra recently, but went with a 2023 F150 2.7L 4x4 and SO glad I did. Would not won a Tundra anymore these days.
Toyota made a massive mistake…they need to reverse direction and put the 5.7 back in the truck..
They didn't willingly make this mistake, the Federal Government via the EPA forced them to take such risks to meet the requirements for fuel mileage and emissions.
Nobody wants a rebuilt engine from a dealership. It’s gonna last just a few miles out of the warranty and it’s no longer their problem. Been there and done that. That Toyota with the rebuilt engine is going to be sold back to the dealership.
Rebuilt engines are a problem in themselves. They don't last as long as a new motor and more prone to premature part failures. Been there, done that.
This happened when Ford went to this package and is still happening, happened to a friend's Ford last month. I knew it was going to be an issue due to Ford so I bought my new Tundra earlier than planned to get the rock solid v8.
Oh yes it's very Rock Solid I took a bunch of BB balls and ball bearings and cut off nail heads and threw it in my oil and it's still that it hasn't making any sound in the motor it's running smooth as can be with all that crap metal like dumped inside the oil and gas so
Toyota was known for their quality and service. How the mighty have fallen.
😭😭🫡
The Koreans are coming !
I own a 2019 Tundra Pro I purchased new. I never thought at the time that I’d be buying my last Toyota.
Well ain't that a kick in the ass
My 2005 Toyota 4runner V8 with 210k miles runs like new...I love it!!
wow they made a V8 4 runner? now it is a 4cyclinder turbo-charged engine
Almost 230k on 04 with a 4.7....no major issues yet
ahh the good old days when toyota had cojones still
200k is barely breaakingn in 😂
I was buying a new truck in 2021 right around the time when everyone was waiting for the release of the new Tundra. I was waiting for my ordered vehicle, trying to decide if I should cancel and go with the Tundra. I'm SO glad I didn't. My Ford Powerstroke has been perfect. I'm sorry to see what's happening to Toyota. What a shame. Now people are choosing (of all makes) NISSAN over the new 2024 Tacoma, which has already come to light as yet another fail.
Our auto industry is doomed imo. 8 injectors on a 4 cylinder. Its not worth it man. I ride dr650 with 1 carburator and 1 cylinder. Uf yiu tried to sell me the same bike with 2 carbs and 1 cylinder id be pissed because bow i have 2 carb jobs to do. Why are we putting 8 injectors on 4 cylinders. I dontnthink the .3 mpg is all that worth the future cost. Im sure since theyre pumping oht gazillions of injectors for 4 cylinders thw average quality of each probably trending down too. Soon theyll be telling us all those previously ultra reliable injectors are actually going bad and now you have a v8 amount of injectore to replace on your fucking cvt corolla 😂😂 they dont want yoy to fix it they want you to sendnit to the recycling plant and buy another one. No thanks. Thats called a scam artist robbery. Lwt me get into cheese burger making and ill sell burgers with the middle chopped out so only beed is exposed aroumd the edge of the bun so people think they get a whole burger and then what ill do with the extra beef ive safedn is ill make another burger with bo meat in the middle and only around the edge so I can sell 2 burgers cor 1 burgers worth of meat. And i will make more money than i already have at expense of everyone else who shouldnt have trusted me.
Thats how i see our auto industry. Japan included. Nothing but cheeseburgers for sale and if you chop the burger in half its like a bible in a prison where they hollowed out the middle to smuggle contraband 😂 why woukd i read that book if the entire salvation was ripped right out in order to cram in all this sin? 😂 what ever happened to a metal engine with metal engine covers and not the Cheapest seals humanly possible with 4 injectors in the port. Whatever tranmission the 99 camry had is all we need. A 6 speed or something. Id rather get 32 mpg instead of 40 if it means my car lasts longer than 10 years man. I want to buy the car own it for ten years then sell it to my own busienss as a used beater and its gotta be reliable. This whole 10 year lifespan for a car i never voted for that and my money certainly wont be financing it as i dont support slavery
This is why turbo engines are not worth buying, especially being a truck.
This is an oiling/contaminant problem.
I’ll never get a turbo again darn pieces of s#it ! My RDX turbo didn’t make it beyond 110k with regular maintenance! Turbo on a truck will even be worse !
I almost traded my 21 Tacoma in for a 24. Crazy price and I don’t trust the 4 banger turbo. Was thinking about the Tundra and keep seeing vids like this. Nope just going to hangout and see
@@bobsmith1405 based on people's experience online the 2024 tacoma might actually be worse than the tundra. truly that is impressive
The problem isn’t the turbos, it’s the main bearings in the block. Heavy duty trucks and locomotives have been using turbos for decades without issue.
I had a 2024 Toyota Grand Highlander, it only had 6000 miles on it and my transmission failed, it stayed at the dealership for 2 months, I did a lemon law claim and I got most of my money back.
I blame the EPA, they forced automakers to make crazy complicated engines to hit arbitrary numbers. If Toyota cant do it, no one can.
Nope epa didn’t force anyone to do anything, Toyota wanted the government incentives
@@testtesttesttesttest884
Never heard of CAFE? Automakers have to hit an mpg across their fleet. Do some homework before you show your ignorance.
Making engines is far easier than making computer chips. Todays can do this better
@@johneldorado Thanks you. Way to many haters in here acting like Chevy, Dodge, Ford and Toyota wanted to kill off the V8 option of their trucks and suv's.
@@sn4rl277 People really think some bureaucrat knows more than real engineers. V8s were in these vehicles because they made the most sense. Powerful, durable, and simple. But with the new laws, we get these crazy complicated engines all to save like $10 a month in fuel.
Damn... Never would have seen this coming from a Toyota Tundra, let alone a Toyota.
I will say, my 4 Runner 5th gen has been a blessing... No issues and running smooth at 140k.
Agree! Never selling my 5th gen 4Runner
I’ve been looking into getting a new tundra, but now I think I’ll just get an F-150 instead.
People asked my why I bought an '02 Sequoia. I told them I don't want to go into debt and I don't want to worry about it. 7 years later, I still don't worry about it, despite being 22 years old and with 360k+ miles. It's paid off and I spend ~$1200 a YEAR in maintenance and repairs. These new 3.5TT are killing the reputation Toyota once held, and it's a shame.
I have a 2003 with 225k runs perfect and would drive it anywhere. Getting ready to have the interior reupholstered show it little love and hopefully drive it another 200k
Why is it a shame back in 2002 things are a little bit better now 20 years later The Whole World's f***** up so why should Toyota be the same why not be f***** up too
Bring back 5.7. F**k the EPA
How do you suggest they actually pull that off?
@@blinkguy4ever If all the automakers had simply circled the wagons and used their considerable marketing clout to let the car buying public know (and respond to Congress) about how they (the manufacturers) were being forced to drop the "American!" V8 engines, I think the EPA/CAFE could have been forced to back off. But the automakers tucked their tails between their collective legs, and this is the result.
It's not the EPA. Toyota gets more incentives(carbon credits) for using the small turbo engines. The EPA doesn't force them to do anything
But then they won’t get govt $$ and tax credits, so their profit margins would shrink.
When corporate profit margins shrink, they increase customer costs to compensate
Ok. 🙃
I’m very happy I found this video!! I was about to sign the papers for a 2024 tundra!!! I running out of the dealer 😂😂
Glad I could help. I think revisiting them in 2025 we'll know more about this issue and whether it's a design flaw or in fact debris from manufacturing causing the issue.
I put over 400K miles on my 2010 Tundra 5.7 V8.
It still ran and looked perfectly.
I sold it to my cousin when I bought my 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road, double cab, 6’ bed with the premium and technology pkgs as I needed a smaller truck and the 23 Tacoma was the last year before Toyota made the mistake of dropping the 4cyl turbo into the Tacoma.
And hell no, I Never go over 5K miles in changing my oil.
Just retired Friday. 27 years as a public educator. Just when I can afford buying a Tacoma, I don’t want one anymore. I was looking to drop down a few years to a used 2020, but they’re asking too much. Wow, now you’re covering exactly what I was typing. Great video. I’d be out of my gourd if I went through the experience Chris is. Because of the poor service, insulting customer service, there’s no way I want a Toyota.
Well I guess now you're going to buy a Chevrolet Equinox or a Kia Soul or a Jeep Grand Cherokee or Dodge Ram
I have a 2008 Tundra, Double Cab, 8 foot bed , 5.7 V8, purchased new in November 2007. Just passed 300,000 miles. I do tow, not every week but more than occasionally (4,000 to 10,000 lbs.). New transmission about 70,000 miles ago. Next truck will be 3/4 ton.
"And he's supposed to trust these people rebuilt his engine..."
That's the main reason I dumped my Subaru STI, engine blew up at 31k, replaced under warranty, never trusted it afterward.
Why did you even buy that machine designed to keep you a perpetual poverty slave americant by witch the world abuses as a wallet and trashcan for junk chinese trash product via endless mechanical issues costing you all your worth. Hage fun going to work 8 hours a day just to spend it on a transmission. Wow FReEDOm!
Subaru is a bad company too.
It's refreshing to see die-hard Toyota fans starting to wake up and realize they aren't the gold standard they thought they were. They are just like every other business trying to make money for their stockholders by cutting costs and increasing profits
@jeanclaude7018Tacos have been made in Mexico for a while. Not standing up for them tho lol the Tundras have been a headache but the Tacos at least the 3rd gen was fine
I was saying that after all the unacceptable issues with the 3rd gen Tacoma. Sadly the 3rd gen Tundra is even worse. There are a lot of 3rd gen Tacomas with engine failures, as well as many getting lemon'd.
@@hochhaul I dont see that at all. I work at a Toyota dealership and we have had a few 3G Tundras with issues but not Tacos the 3G Taco has been a great little truck we did a trans on one that got overheated but thats it really and we are a high volume service dealer also. The 3.5 was a great little motor
Toyota took a shit after 2008
@@IvanKorsinsky what happened in 2008?
I had a 2020 tundra and loved it. The 5.7 was a badass engine. Fast forward to 2024 and I decided to get a new truck. I now have a ram 1500 because I am not buying a new tundra with that crap engine. My wife also bought a brand new 2024 Camry because the new ones are all hybrid. Give me old and reliable. Hopefully we can get enough time out of them for Toyota to tighten up.
We have been a Toyota family for a while’s talked about trading an old one for a new one and every Toyota tech we have talked to when servicing ours has told us to NOT DO IT.
That's crazy.
The problem is the government forcing vehicle manufacturers to have carbon neutral requirements to make tiny engines to get higher gas mileage. It's ridiculous but the people and environmental organizations voted and pushed for this. So now consumers are paying for this. 🤦♂️
To make the even shittier EVs look better.. leftists hate fair competition.
What kind of air do you what to breathe? At what point do you notice our planet is dying, what are we leaving our kids. Damm right we need cleaner, efficient transportation.
@@HoustonRoadand yet not a peep from y'all when some planes are dumping chemicals in the atmosphere. By the way carbon is good for the environment
@@mediaisthevirus take your medicine, you mental.
@@mediaisthevirus exactly, airplanes use thousands of gallons of fuel and all that waste byproduct is just raining down us but I guess that's okay as long as they're making millions from the airlines
I am so happy that I bought a new 2023 F150 instead of a Toyota Tundra!!!
And my sincere thanks for this video, it is certainly very informative.
Same. Toyota fan boy here. Tedt drove the new Tundras in all formats. Nothing turned me on.
Drove a 2023 Tremor. Traded in my 2021 Tumdra thst had 18k miles. Love the F150 Tremor. It's an actual truck.
@@jeremy9071 You bet, that sure is an actual truck.
"Deprecating faster than an EV after an EMP pulse..." That's pretty good! 😂
This is why I laugh when people say "latest technology" like that automatically means BETTER. Toyota has built bulletproof engines for decades then this "latest technology" shows up😒.
They weren't Bulletproof the first year they cam out if you spent the time to educate yourself.
@@speed8701bro, we've had people building cars for 100+ years.
This is not some "new tech"
Everything has been done with cars before.
This is just bad build quality from a degrading company
the latest technology for free beta testers idiots ))
That's why you don't buy new technology. You wait 2 years so they figure out the kinks
It's legit really sad what's happening to Toyota. Legendary brand known for affordable vehicles that would roll on for half a million miles with minimal maintenance without breaking a sweat. Now becoming known for overpriced timebombs. What the heck 😞
They did it to themselves.
@TheRealCatofmazda*
@@HarmonsHarbor Or a comma. lol
@TheRealCatof lol uh no. Kia/Hyundai make garbage engines.
Black berry felt the same . Where are they now ?
If i had this truck and have decided to keep it long term, I would install a bypass oil filter. They're afew hundred dollars and will filter most of the contaminates the normal oil filters cannot catch. It also has the extra benefit of extending oil change intervals if you choose to do so. They're a more popular option on larger diesel engines but can have the same benefit here.
Can’t get enough of this! Geeees almost bought a Tundra in December! Boy did I dodge a bullet. Went wilt a Silverado.
How do you like it?
Same, always been a Toyota/chevy fan, in 2022 it was time to upgrade my truck and went with the Silverado instead of the tundra, no regrets. My 2018 Tacoma had rust in the front axel so I traded it in before it got worse. I can only imagine what issues we will see in the new Tacoma’s.
Does that Silverado have AFM? If so, you're not done dodging bullets.
@@BD1ZZ mine does not, that was the first thing I checked.
Silverado is awesome! Got the duramax 3.0 averaging 25 to the gallon and I have a heavy foot! 😬
Do the rigjt thing Toyota, stand by your products and your customer will be happy.
Lol that won’t happen.
I was about to trade my 2021 Laramie to get a 2024 Tundra, I am glad the I watched a few Tundra reviews like this one. I will wait a few more years because I have no issues so far with my Ram. Great takes on the Tundra. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
What's with the praying hands why cuz you're a Dodge Chrysler person yeah buddy I know a couple people over here then the biggest dirt bags and losses they got brand new Dodge and Jeep products so what's that all about man what are you praying for and what do we got to pray for you praying for me cuz you drive a Dodge yeah man don't you know the Dodge Durango is the biggest welfare wagon the Dodge Ram is the white man's trash so will you pray for me tell me your mother gave you the vehicle and see driving directions so you can afford man it's a deal yeah so whatever you know yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I know I know
The oil change interval isn’t the problem, this is a tolerance problem. My guess is the difference in expansion between the steel and aluminum in that lower end griddle might be the culprit.
I went up to a 0w30 motor oil for my Tundra
Hard to say at this point. You might be right, I suspect Toyota will fix it quietly and we'll never really know why.
Twin huffers on a 6 banger.
What could go wrong.
Ran great till it blew up, though.
4 hunnerd horses! 😃
I own a 18 and thought about upgrading but it’s hard to give a known bulletproof engine for an experimental phase one. Oil change is done every 5 and I never believed the 10k interval is too long even with synthetic oil.
As a Subaru turbo owner, I change the oil every 3500 because it has a filter by the turbo and if it gets clogged, the turbo starves.
The new Tacoma will be the next flop .... My local dealers are already discounting them heavily hoping to move them off the lots
Thanks. I have a 2023 Sequoia Platinum and was going to get a 2024 Sequoia Capstone, but will see what my other options are. Considering 2024 4Runner.
Toyota quality? A thing of the past.
@@JoseR-bw2gs My parents tried to order a 2023 Sequoia Capstone, thank god the dealers couldn't find one at the time. Instead, they went with a 2023 4Runner Limited.
Truck has very good reviews from owners. It's Turbo engine has been used in other models for 3 years without durability problems.
Yeah all right now what you need to do is go buy one now and just go there and say you want the incentives to yes get your money ready
What has happened to Toyota! I am a decades old Toyota customer. I still drive my 2006 Toyota 4Runner V8 Sport Edition, trouble free! My only expenses, synthetic oil changes, new tires, new batteries, and new passenger side tie rod boots.
New turbo engine of Toyota are garbage...
I'm with you, '03 4runner w/V8, AWD, Keeping it running as long as possible, only 159K miles.
@@RonRussell-sj1zf I believe for turbo engines Ford .,3.5 EcoBoost is far more reliable,the ones 2018 and afterwards
Hold on to that V8 4Runner - those are nice and pretty rare. I wanted one when they came out but, because of the lesser headroom, couldn't fit.
@@vickymanghera1369 Can't argue that. But they all seem to have an "Achilles heel".
No substitution fir displacement, you can fool a small engine into thinking there’s more air that there is ie turbo, super charger but it won’t last. I snuck in under the wire and got a 5.7 long box. VERY HAPPY
*no replacement for displacement
One thing for certain its a hell of a job ! And most likely will not be done promptly or correctly ! These engines were rushed into production so most likely not tested fully for reliability ! Same with the older 5.7 were toyota recalled 350,000 for failing engines ! And looking at all model year tundra sales #'s they dont come close to gm or ford even dodge !
I traded out of my 2023 Tundra and was happy to have only "lost" 5K over my one year of ownership. Traded into a Gas Ram 2500 and fortunately with Ram's slow sales I had enough incentives and such to get that truck at a decent price. Now I see my old Tundra on the used lot sitting there for an outrageous price! Apparently the Ram dealership doesn't know of the Tundra's issues. Glad to be out of that truck. Even without the engine failure the fit and finish on the Ram is actually significantly better than the Tundra. Such a disappointment for Toyota.
That's so crazy to hear "the fit and finish on the Ram is actually significantly better", words I never thought I'd see uttered anywhere :). Glad you like the Ram, I keep hearing great things about them in the comments but I just haven't owned one, yet.
@@TheCarGuyOnline Ram is about to start having there own engine problems with the Hurricane & it doesn't have a dipstick to check the engine oil.
No dipstick? Are you serious?
Man I’m sorry for what these folks are going through, can’t say anything about the Tundra, but RUST issues did me with Tacomas both on my 2002 and 2015 Tacoma’s.
I don't feel sorry for the public dude they should have known better
I'm not typing so in other words when when third of me good stuff nobody maintained it correctly and it turned out to be garbage on the market high-priced garbage that's still on the market now they give me garbage that blows up in a month hey I don't blame them cuz they never maintain this s*** in the first place so now just blow it all up make garbage
2004 GMC Yukon xl original motor, original transmission, 287,000 miles and keeps on going still runs exceptionally well and doesn’t even smoke, just keep up with maintenance is key, don’t like all this so called technology in newer vehicles
Toyota has lost me as a customer and several of my family members. I’ve had bad experiences with both the sales and service departments recently. Not sure what changed over the last couple years. Now they are forcing hybrids and turbo engines on everyone. I’d rather have a reliable sluggish V8. There doesn’t seem to be an improvement on gas mileage and who really needs to have extra horsepower power between red lights.
So glad I followed my gut earlier this year and bought a 2021 Platinum with 26k miles. It was pricey (6k less than original sticker), but worth it compared to these twin turbos.
Lets be real though if your paying 70k for a japanese pickup your part of the problem. Stop supporting ridiculous dealer markups.
Tundra is built in San Antonio TX, the Toyota plant also has multiple vendors on the property
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Yea toyota is more American built Creates more American jobs than ford.
Get a Nissan Titan while you still can. 400hp V8, no stop/start, no cylinder deactivation, 100k mile warranty, and they've been making it for 20+ years. I know Nissan ain't what it used to be, but it's about the last honest half ton you can buy new. Fully loaded Pro-4X with every option for $65k.
Edit: After further investigation these are not reliable and you should basically just stick to GMT800's and 1st/2nd Gen Tundras.
They are a great engine, sure wish they weren't getting rid of the titan but sales were too low for them.
@@TheCarGuyOnline Maybe Nissan should rethink this if it isn't too late. I think in light of the Toyota fiasco, they might seize the opportunity to gain a bigger chunk of the pickup truck market rather quickly.
My uncle put over 300,000 miles on his '04 Titan. He said it was the best truck he ever owned.
The VK56 is a monster v8 for what it is. Just need to stay on top of the oil changes
I never understood why they did away with the lower trim levels. Could have been successful with how complicated AND expensive trucks are getting.
Too bad, I was looking at buying a 2024 Limited. Damn that sucks, however, what's interesting is that I have never seen this much passion when GM had and STILL has 8 speed transmission issues, nor have I seen this for Ford's 10 speed transmission issues. I don't deny that Toyota has engine issues but we tend to stay a little quiet when the domestics have similar big ticket item issues. Hmmm strange? I don't so lol.
There's definitely some bias going on here. I'm a big toyota fan but I don't deny they've had their fair share of issues all of which are eventually corrected!
I was waiting since 2014 for an all new tundra and when they announced this would include a Turbo I walked away from Toyota. I do not buy anything with a Turbo and this is why.
But noooo… they said these new model V6 super Twin-Turbinator motors were Uber reliable. They said they were in the LS500 and it’s all good. 😅
Bring back the V8’s… 👊
Oh they told you the super duper on human sacrifice the lupus stupid number 22 number one power bank on calculated truck of turn back the clock yeah and you fell for that dog yeah the super duper motor it's better than the 10-year-old Johnny Knoxville with the bearing noise dog
I almost bought a 24 Land Cruiser the other day… interest rates scared me away as well as knowing it’s a new model year. We will see what issues they have over the next few years and maybe I will reconsider. They look pretty
Yeah it's tough to resist the shiny :)