What you think? Hydrogen? Periodic table no1. But processing costs to green need stupid money. Correct me if im wrong. I’m here to learn. Why not use the money appropriately on electric car first rather to spend stupid on money electricity to make clean hydrogen which the electricity can go directly to car. Why converting it to something else just to tackle on charging time issues. People need cheap and direct energy but not something need conversion thus coal always the first choice even in developed nation in australia, usa and china. Do you think this hydrogen thingy is a sus???!!!
There must be a reason why Toyota choose Miraii, the sibling of Crown, to build the Hydrogen FCEV - (1)because it can store 3-large tanks in-exchange for Range; (2)general lifespan for FCEV is between 5-8yrs can be a pain for "ordinary" owners
@@taichooyee Hate Toyota for FOOLING us drivers with their Foolcelleries, Toyota will be screwed and finished by the Chinese BEV automakers by year 2030, Mark my words , I used to be a Toyota lover by the way.
@@AuralioCabal-nl8gi Don't trap yourself in your stubbornness. Toyota is offering tech options. Think out of the box. Don't get pulled away by one side. BEV is not the best solution.
Since Sarawak is leading in this field, why can't the federal government support them financially for bigger scale production in Bintulu...peninsula cannot be the taiko forever...
YB has answered your question. This is all about supply and demand. For example, with electric vehicles (EVs), some people say there are too few EV charging stations in Malaysia. However, after the government started promoting EVs, many car manufacturers and third-party companies began building charging stations across the country. Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles (FCEVs) tell a different story. Unlike EVs, there aren’t many car manufacturers planning to develop FCEVs. Toyota, for instance, is a frontrunner in FCEV manufacturing, but they only have one FCEV model. Now, let’s imagine a scenario: If the government pushes for fuel cell stations, but the market lacks users or demand, it would definitely result in financial losses and inefficiency.
@@alexkehalexis well I clearly understand what yb trying to say..what I want to emphasis is instead of doing the RnD at different location..why don't just focus in Sarawak..I believe concentrating in doing the RnD in Sarawak will enhance the overall efficiency..anyway Sarawak government is expecting to export the hydrogen to Japan and Korea by 2027, 2028..So guess by that time, demand is also projected to be increased...
I’m taxpayer and i disagreed on green hydrogen. It should always be private until result seen then government subsidy to push green efforts. Don’t give any money to anyone for result not even present to us yet
gov can start with bus and train, like german, than u got certain demand so station can be build. also gov fleet, than certain demand can slowly push for like lorry, than going into passenger car. damn we really need change the gasoline bus la. it create alot smoke and so heat near by the bus
The challenge with hydrogen is who is going to build the hydrogen stations around the country for the car to be viable. The idea of fuel cell technology has been around for at least the past 40 years. Since there is hardly any progress on fuel cell technology, it is telling how a technology can be invented but the commercial issues are not easy to overcome. We have not seen hydrogen powered vehicles in any country on a commercial scale so I doubt anyone would want to build hydrogen stations the way electric charging stations are built. Electric charging stations are easier since electric power is available all around this country. But, for hydrogen, how many hydrogen generating plants are there and how will hydrogen be transported around the country to be distributed to hydrogen stations in order for people to adopt the fuel cell technology. Also, the hydrogen tanks inside the car are bulky, not to mention highly explosive. I believe there are 2 hydrogen tanks inside the Mirai. I think the challenges are substantial.
1 million usd per filling station, plus additional electricity cost for refrigeration as hydrogen need to be stored cool, malaysia hot weather it will not be reality
I did my research in Green hydrogen production before, it definitely is a promising energy source. However, the problem is it is very energy intensive to produce large amount of H2 gas compared with conventional crude/ coal fuel --> electricity conversion. You will use much more energy to produce H2 fuel compared to energy used to charge a battery cell. In layman term, more energy required = more $$ = more expensive H2 fuel.
yeah. and if i heard correctly, yb is saying swak can produce green hydrogen because it has & uses hydroelectricity. If that's the definition of green, then TNB's electricity in peninsular is NOT green... and that begs a question - does promoting EVs in peninsular mean we will go green??? Are there any EV charging stations that deliver green electricity??? eg charging stations that are hooked up to solar, wind or hydro generators???
Fuel cell price is still expensive. For hydrogen gas distribution, need truck for distribution, compare to full electric, electricity got wide coverage, without expensive distribution by truck.
Question is have how many car manufacturers build this hydrogen energy cars. If only 1 company, then it the one monopolize the market. Example, like thehybrid car technology. Hope the hydrogen technology can be open source for all.
The car looks good and viable to run. But calculating the course, take average cost per km, is higher than Petrol Car. Assume use 5kg ( in view of not possible to refill only when run empty ), so each time refill 5kg. Consider other usage and the car can only run 800km per refill attempt ( refill 5kg ). 1kg of Green Hydrogen is USD10, which means per refill is USD50. Like this per km running is RM0.30, take 1USD = RM4.80 exchange rate. Sounds quite costly to run.
Apparently many months before, I forgot which country from Europe, found a hydrogen reserve that could last for 500 years. Basically known as ‘white’ hydrogen, some oil and gas company is working on how to harvest it. Target around 2026… when the time comes? The price of hydrogen willdrop significantly. Frankly, what I felt is .. hydrogen is a true green and sustainable car compared to electric car..
Hydrogen = the most inefficient fuel you can find , or NOT FIND FCVs are for FOOLS! FOOLCELLS as Elon Musk says, meanwhile there is a PLUG in every house.Hydrogen will be UN- Obtanium for decades!😂
".... The Mirai was unveiled at the November 2014 Los Angeles Auto Show.As of November 2022, global sales totaled 21,475 units; the top-selling markets were the U.S. with 11,368 units, Japan with 7,435 and the rest of the world with 2,622 ...." QUOTE from Wiki ☝️. Also ".... Current best processes for water electrolysis have an effective electrical efficiency of 70-80%, so that producing 1 kg of hydrogen requires 50-55 kWh of electricity..." So, that explains why Hydrogen car still has not been widely accepted...
In Sarawak, what type of Hydrogen is available at the limited refuel stations? Is it Blue only, or a mixed of Green, Blue and Grey? What is the selling price of these hydrogens now? Are they at market price or heavily subsidised too? What is the power of this Mirai?
While it's true that our petrol and electricity prices may be lower than those in Europe, it's important to consider that our salary and income levels are also lower. This makes direct comparisons unfair without accounting for these economic differences.
The main hurdle in making EV more mainstream is the difficulty of installing charging points in condo/apartment. Many condo managements are reluctant to cooperate with owners who want to set up charging points due to the additional effort it requires. This is preventing me from owning an EV, as my condo management refuses to help with installation. I urge YB to address this issue promptly.
“一公斤氢气 能行驶100公里左右，但是生产一公斤氢气 所用的电量 足以让电动车行驶400-500公里了。” 这个数据有没有出处啊？蛮好奇的。车价确实是个很大的问题毕竟不像电车 Tesla 一早就把自己的专利公开了，可以让一众的中国汽车抄作业把价钱打下来。除非 Toyota 也愿意把自己专利分享出来，不然价钱这件事应该暂时无解。当然如果政府真的想推行氢气车，还是可以通过政策来推动。（像现在的电动车）
hahaha our yb so clever... he say hydrogen is the lightest element. but he ignored the weight of the tanks that need to be super strong to withstand the pressure ...
YB mentioned a rarely mentioned problem with EVs - the weight of the batteries and that our roads are not designed to take their weight. And the irony ... EVs are given the incentive of lower road tax. Where's the money for maintaining roads going to come from???
Don't be fool, many mirai buyer at USA regret their decision, there's always short of hydrogen, cost of hydrogen going up, hydrogen station always under maintenance due to nozzle frequently frozen and broken due to extreme low temperature. Please do research on USA user experience before jump on.
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What you think? Hydrogen? Periodic table no1. But processing costs to green need stupid money. Correct me if im wrong. I’m here to learn. Why not use the money appropriately on electric car first rather to spend stupid on money electricity to make clean hydrogen which the electricity can go directly to car. Why converting it to something else just to tackle on charging time issues. People need cheap and direct energy but not something need conversion thus coal always the first choice even in developed nation in australia, usa and china. Do you think this hydrogen thingy is a sus???!!!
@@MarioGO-h4p 氢能源汽车是日本首选的清洁能源项目，所以首先应该了解日本国内能源行业发展情况，日本大部分电力来自于核能，核能发电，用电产生氢气，而日本氢能源车的专利最多，也能解决很多就业问题，最主要一点是电池技术目前还没有较大的技术突破，而且需要大量锂矿，所以目前大部分国家没有发展电车
@@MarioGO-h4p 目前似乎只有日本在生产氢能源，西方国家虽然停止了电车项目，但也没有发展氢能源，其中一个原因是氢能源相比电车更加不安全，氢能源车拆解后的零件远不如电车的电池价值高，
@@MarioGO-h4p电池可以用了制造储能系统，并且锂元素相比氢元素价值高很多，也有人质疑电池污染，但任何工业都会产生一些污染的情况，只要技术好工业污染也会降低很多，综合来说我认为还是电车更加友好
Part 2 Mirai 試駕心得 ： Coming Soon
There must be a reason why Toyota choose Miraii, the sibling of Crown, to build the Hydrogen FCEV - (1)because it can store 3-large tanks in-exchange for Range; (2)general lifespan for FCEV is between 5-8yrs can be a pain for "ordinary" owners
这集的教育性质内容很高，太棒了，为马来西亚绿色环保节能的走向助推一臂之力，加油！
适当的专才在对的位置…给部长一个赞
he stuttered, thanks for his efforts on memorised but not using teleprompter like biden
氫氣其實也沒有很環保喔。
充其量也不過是減少對石油的依賴而已。
還有像這種使用FUEL CELL 的車子，FUEL CELL 本身是使用PLATINUM（白金/鉑），比鋰還有稀有400倍。
也就是說，地球每挖400噸鋰，就只能挖1噸PLATINUM， 2045年就會挖完. 也代表氫氣車非常貴。
也可以使用鐵，但是很容易就被腐蝕生鏽。但是可以加一層石墨包住它，也可以獲得和白金差不多的效能。
很多部长都感觉是很paliah的
今天这个部长感觉很有知识，
同时具有企业家的视野角度
Minister has been BOUGHT by Toyota , What a FOOL!
Haters please go.
@@taichooyee Hate Toyota for FOOLING us drivers with their Foolcelleries, Toyota will be screwed and finished by the Chinese BEV automakers by year 2030, Mark my words , I used to be a Toyota lover by the way.
@@AuralioCabal-nl8gi Don't trap yourself in your stubbornness. Toyota is offering tech options. Think out of the box. Don't get pulled away by one side. BEV is not the best solution.
@@AuralioCabal-nl8gi shame to call yourself a "Toyota Lover" 🤮
这位部长讲话很务实，有条有理，点赞
不像祸贱行骗党出的大炮仙只会车大炮。
很棒的一集！从电动到HYDROGEN，从你的频道真的学到很多！
提议从公共交通开始，争取demand，那么就有supply，可以先签mou，购买hydrogen bus，普及过后就能引进汽车，要加大力度可以不限于购买的subsidy，还有hydrogen car owner的yearly tax rebate。
对于我来说，设计一些更热血的hydrogen car会非常吸引🤩
YB表现得很好，但是如果又又又换government能不能继续贯彻执行蓝图发展才是国家能不能进步的关键。
Since Sarawak is leading in this field, why can't the federal government support them financially for bigger scale production in Bintulu...peninsula cannot be the taiko forever...
YB has answered your question. This is all about supply and demand. For example, with electric vehicles (EVs), some people say there are too few EV charging stations in Malaysia. However, after the government started promoting EVs, many car manufacturers and third-party companies began building charging stations across the country.
Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles (FCEVs) tell a different story. Unlike EVs, there aren’t many car manufacturers planning to develop FCEVs. Toyota, for instance, is a frontrunner in FCEV manufacturing, but they only have one FCEV model.
Now, let’s imagine a scenario: If the government pushes for fuel cell stations, but the market lacks users or demand, it would definitely result in financial losses and inefficiency.
@@alexkehalexis well I clearly understand what yb trying to say..what I want to emphasis is instead of doing the RnD at different location..why don't just focus in Sarawak..I believe concentrating in doing the RnD in Sarawak will enhance the overall efficiency..anyway Sarawak government is expecting to export the hydrogen to Japan and Korea by 2027, 2028..So guess by that time, demand is also projected to be increased...
I’m taxpayer and i disagreed on green hydrogen. It should always be private until result seen then government subsidy to push green efforts. Don’t give any money to anyone for result not even present to us yet
gov can start with bus and train, like german, than u got certain demand so station can be build. also gov fleet, than certain demand can slowly push for like lorry, than going into passenger car. damn we really need change the gasoline bus la. it create alot smoke and so heat near by the bus
When ever talking about east Malaysia, sure there are comment on center govt no support, this is aldy normal 😅😅😅
西马半岛发电站发电都是火力发电，砂拉越是水力发电和少部分风力发电，有一些乡村是用太阳能发电。所以我们的电费就比较便宜。
砂拉越还在起步阶段. 现在古晋有跑着几辆氢气巴士. 未来ART也是用氢气发动
好奇问art是什么？？？
ART 是 Autonomous Rapid Transit
就是智轨列车，他是不需要铁轨的，用上面的感应器来感应路面的白线，跟着白线跑。到时候古晋会有一个专用车道
用gas跑的3节的bus@@JTMD8952
感谢分享，YB很务实, 涨知识了。
部长 给人感觉很舒服！
方向错了啊，中国依旧是氢能源车大国。比别国发展的都早，加氢站数量比别国都多。氢的价格比别国便宜30%。总结出来的经验，小车不适合氢能源，不安全追尾会爆炸，成本高一公里0.5美金。大卡车，大巴车大车不适合电动车，电池重，车身重，电池耗电快，充电效率低。。小车只能用电车，大车只能用氢燃料车。
@@dapan33 方向错不错无所谓 反正只是人民的钱 大马比较适合天马行空 走了个飞车部长 来了个氢能源部长 发展不发展起来无所谓 最重要有得吹
真羡慕有這樣開明且具備知識的部長
其实他在画饼 几年后你再想回我说过的话你就懂了 FCEV如果能民用 为何先进的日本不普及？因为大马优先？大马比较帅？部长只是比飞车部长靠谱一点点
The challenge with hydrogen is who is going to build the hydrogen stations around the country for the car to be viable. The idea of fuel cell technology has been around for at least the past 40 years. Since there is hardly any progress on fuel cell technology, it is telling how a technology can be invented but the commercial issues are not easy to overcome. We have not seen hydrogen powered vehicles in any country on a commercial scale so I doubt anyone would want to build hydrogen stations the way electric charging stations are built. Electric charging stations are easier since electric power is available all around this country. But, for hydrogen, how many hydrogen generating plants are there and how will hydrogen be transported around the country to be distributed to hydrogen stations in order for people to adopt the fuel cell technology. Also, the hydrogen tanks inside the car are bulky, not to mention highly explosive. I believe there are 2 hydrogen tanks inside the Mirai. I think the challenges are substantial.
1 million usd per filling station, plus additional electricity cost for refrigeration as hydrogen need to be stored cool, malaysia hot weather it will not be reality
我这方面的知识有限，谢谢分享氢能车的资讯。我觉得目前氢能车确是重型卡车或巴士的一个非常好的环保方案。但用在家用车可能氢气桶会挤压很多很多空间。
I did my research in Green hydrogen production before, it definitely is a promising energy source. However, the problem is it is very energy intensive to produce large amount of H2 gas compared with conventional crude/ coal fuel --> electricity conversion. You will use much more energy to produce H2 fuel compared to energy used to charge a battery cell. In layman term, more energy required = more $$ = more expensive H2 fuel.
yeah. and if i heard correctly, yb is saying swak can produce green hydrogen because it has & uses hydroelectricity. If that's the definition of green, then TNB's electricity in peninsular is NOT green... and that begs a question - does promoting EVs in peninsular mean we will go green??? Are there any EV charging stations that deliver green electricity??? eg charging stations that are hooked up to solar, wind or hydro generators???
Fuel cell給大型交通工具比如巴士和卡車真的不錯👍🏻
Fuel cell price is still expensive. For hydrogen gas distribution, need truck for distribution, compare to full electric, electricity got wide coverage, without expensive distribution by truck.
Mr Toyoda is still clinging to the pipe dream of hydrogen powered vehicles.😅😅😅
Toyota is out of time, and still reject to develop the normal EV as Tesla . Stubborn Thoughts
我一直以爲hydrogen car 只是强化引擎導入氫氣直接燃燒。。。。謝謝uncle科普. 其實還有另一種氫氣，地下天然氫氣最近才開發
也是有使用氢气燃烧发电驱使车辆，但是不环保。
@@JTMD8952 额， 你确定说的是氢气不是天然气？
氢气燃烧技术记得没错已经被淘汰很久了， 印象中根本就没商用。
FCEV成本高，有些车商转移去Hydrogen Combustion engine car
@@JTMD8952 對，我印象中寶馬有開發過，好處是只需要強化引擎和改裝油箱就能像現有的油車一樣
丰田去年有推出氢内燃机汽车，以降低氢燃料推广成本。但氢的最大问题是储运，根本不是车价
用電能提煉氫氣,然后再结合O2產生電能去推動汽車, 光是這就多了一个过程(多此一舉!), 郊率肯定也會降低。😅
关键是贵 以现在的情况无法民用 只能用在巴士或卡车上 硬硬推动民用就一定会失败 日本那么有钱都不敢普及
如果后期的氢能源车能把氢能源储存管提升，让车厢的空间更宽大就会有更多人倾向于它。电动车就是有这点的优势，车厢空间宽大。我相信氢能源车也能做到
no
Very informative. Thanks. Hoping that this alternative energy can reduce the air pollution in Malaysia.
续航1000km👍
5分钟充满👍
其实 Malaysia 真的和有潜力成为强大的 regional CCUS centre 的。毕竟我们开采完的石油溶洞都是天然还有强大的储存空间，希望政府真的可以大力发展。
先加速发展东马两邦，避免给印尼迁都后超过
@@yanhaowong8760 发展 CCUS 其实就是在发展东马，不要忘了最多石油的地方就是他们那边了…
Question is have how many car manufacturers build this hydrogen energy cars. If only 1 company, then it the one monopolize the market. Example, like thehybrid car technology. Hope the hydrogen technology can be open source for all.
谢谢分享优质内容~~ love from sarawakian
battery纯电车的问题是很难解决的也不是最理想的终极方案，如果每个人都用电车。tnb需要用多粗的cable？malaysia 的地下线很多都要挖过重新铺过。用hydrogen 储电可能更现实。如果未来能实现hydrogen 液化和突破hydrogen 转电效率和方式。液化hydrogen + 电机 可能未来最终的方案。
use solar why need to use tnb? 😂
韓國跟日本氫氣發展最快速尤其是韓國但是氫氣站成本太高為了空氣污染加油😎👍
主要还是boom起来，威力不是电池汽油能比的。
最有Point的就是，我们人民关心的真的只是自己的钱包。世界和平，经济环保的，谈不上那么大的理想。不是不想，是钱包不敢
The car looks good and viable to run. But calculating the course, take average cost per km, is higher than Petrol Car. Assume use 5kg ( in view of not possible to refill only when run empty ), so each time refill 5kg. Consider other usage and the car can only run 800km per refill attempt ( refill 5kg ). 1kg of Green Hydrogen is USD10, which means per refill is USD50. Like this per km running is RM0.30, take 1USD = RM4.80 exchange rate. Sounds quite costly to run.
Apparently many months before, I forgot which country from Europe, found a hydrogen reserve that could last for 500 years. Basically known as ‘white’ hydrogen, some oil and gas company is working on how to harvest it. Target around 2026… when the time comes? The price of hydrogen willdrop significantly.
Frankly, what I felt is .. hydrogen is a true green and sustainable car compared to electric car..
Hydrogen = the most inefficient fuel you can find , or NOT FIND FCVs are for FOOLS! FOOLCELLS as Elon Musk says, meanwhile there is a PLUG in every house.Hydrogen will be UN- Obtanium for decades!😂
hydrogen = Un Obtanium, anyone who tells you otherwise sure lied to you.!😂
".... The Mirai was unveiled at the November 2014 Los Angeles Auto Show.As of November 2022, global sales totaled 21,475 units; the top-selling markets were the U.S. with 11,368 units, Japan with 7,435 and the rest of the world with 2,622 ...."
QUOTE from Wiki ☝️. Also ".... Current best processes for water electrolysis have an effective electrical efficiency of 70-80%, so that producing 1 kg of hydrogen requires 50-55 kWh of electricity..."
So, that explains why Hydrogen car still has not been widely accepted...
@@YouCCP2 Hydrogen is so SCREWED .that Fuel and FCV are a RUBE GOLDBERG Machine!😂
氢能车的气压筒太大太重，限制了汽车的设计，单单mirai就用了3个气压桶。如果小车如Axia，saga车底根本没足够空间放置气压筒，只能放置在后尾箱而已。氢能车比较适合公共交通如巴士和大卡车，那些大型公车不被空间限制，而且公共巴士只要特定的地点有加氢站就行，好过现在那些电动巴士，一般只能走市区短途而已。氢能巴士10分钟加满氢可以跑800km, 适合长途巴士。现在买BEV的大部分都自己在家充电的，大部分也用做市区驾驶而已，很少人会考虑买氢能源因为家里不能自己加氢，外边的加氢站没有油站这样多没人敢买。
部长好！ 期待下集 0-100 测试😆😆
哈哈 载部长0-100
maintenance方面和EV车一样？还是像燃油车一样要换黑油牙油？
hydrogen 车也是电车，不用换黑油牙油。可是hydrogen 需要一个转换器把 hydrogen 转去电，那个转换器是贵金属价格贵而且有寿命。
希望也会在砂拉越组装氢能源汽车。如果有奇迹会不会变成以后有些东南亚专属的氢能源车款在sarawak开发，以后就是Made in Sarawak
目前最大的问题应该是hydrogen storage tank
yes
大规模制氢需要的电力 储存 运输 甚至加氢站都是问题 人人也不想自己身上背个炸弹 相关利益者肯定说不会炸
雖然我不想國內有這樣的狀況... 如果車子被恐怖襲擊的話 爆炸的幾率是不是比燃油車更高呢... 電動車暫時只有b牌的商用電池是怎樣傷害都不會爆炸 別的就會 還有固態電池還沒商用 商用了固態電池安全性提高了 充電速度也提高了的話 那麼到時民眾還會選擇氫能交通工具作為alternative麼...
US already have 11min charging speed for sodium battery.. hydrogen is history.
EV car just need electricity to charge, any where also have plug even if is slower, but hydrogen is hard to build and install, safety issue etc..
In Sarawak, what type of Hydrogen is available at the limited refuel stations? Is it Blue only, or a mixed of Green, Blue and Grey? What is the selling price of these hydrogens now? Are they at market price or heavily subsidised too? What is the power of this Mirai?
Tai chio yee，你有去过sarawak 吗？为什么好像我感觉我们跟沙巴有不同的地方，沙巴比较厉害在旅游业方面 ，sarawak会比较厉害在能源方面
very informative, 未来就这几样科技， EV(or FCEV), AI, Solar, 谁进场快谁就赢
以目前电解效率来看，加上氢气的加压和运输，氯氰是非常不实际的，小型轿车来说，倒不如直接充电，更符合经济效应，便宜好几倍。氢气的实际成本也是比起传统的化石能源更贵，就算形成了规模效应，很多国家在推动氢能源都还是靠政府的大力补贴。加上氢燃料电池也不是便宜的东西，马来西亚要推动氢能源是相当困难的。
氢能源目前适合用在重型汽车上
大气污染和废旧电池可能造成的土地和水源污染，两个风险的话我宁愿选择大气污染。土地和水源危害更大更不可逆。自己看看氢能车的电池才多大，1.4kWh比电车60-80kwh小多少倍？ 别跟我说回收很普遍了，世界上大部分都是发展中国家，没有多少个国家在回收电池方面有美中那么完善。
@@jlh881 电解到用氢气压缩运输到转化回电能总体转换效率只有不到30%，成本极高。用天然气提取的灰氢，还不如直接用化石燃料，脱裤子放屁。
@@jlh881 一般动力电池也是十年以上的设计寿命，电动车电池肯定不会乱丢，因为有回收的价值。发展中国家怎么了？没能力回收电池？政府推动电动车自然也会想到这个连你都想得到的问题，肯定不会土埋，回收这些大电池有经济效益，能够赚钱，就自然有人愿意做。
一个用氢气发电和一个直接充电，你不觉得像是脱裤子放屁吗？电池现在回收率也是逐步提高。
在十年前，我問泰国曼谷計程車司机用LPG（家用謀氣），有没有危險，多位司机大哥說整个曼谷有九千輛计程車，用很多年都没事，安裝费便宜大约马幤一千，計程車用一天才花二十五元马幤，請部长可以用LPG在大马试用，又快又省錢安全，全世界都在用，己經二十多年历史。
希望馬來西亞可以很快發展綠色能源
10:50 上位前，马来西亚是油产国里油价数一数二的高，可以做到1.5油价
上位后，马来西亚必须针对性津贴油
感觉解决ev的问题，有点像油的 hybrid car
可以再做一期视频，介绍一下氢能源车的使用情况吗？跟传统燃油车比，续航、驾驶性能上有什么差别。
What if the car facing a serious car crash accident? It will not explosion too? 😢😢😢
Sarawak 氢能源成功了必须要加强法律来保护，避免像之前石油和天然气被抢走
早晚的事
不会成功的， 这个只有政绩而已不会对我们有任何影响
鄧部長講的很詳細。
鄭哦👍🏽
請問片中有沒有提到充一次氣走若干公里要用多久?
就是一个装了汽油引擎的tesla。
只是这台把汽油引擎换成hydrogen fuel cell。fuel cell 只能用来充电。
然后我觉得还是200公里的电车 mini couper 跟好。
Elon Musk：生产1公斤的hydrogen需要55KWh的电，然后1公斤hydrogen只可行使80公里，还需要一颗电池，为什么不直接拿55kwh的电(车)来行驶（随便300以上公里？）
大家怎么看?
除非到月球上取得氦3，实现冷聚变。届时地球🌍国界，洋界重新划分。
厉害哦
还可以跟部长借车，访问很多部长👍🏻
我想问，这辆Mirai用完hydrogen gas之后要去哪里refill 呢？
While it's true that our petrol and electricity prices may be lower than those in Europe, it's important to consider that our salary and income levels are also lower. This makes direct comparisons unfair without accounting for these economic differences.
把健白象高铁公程拿来做hydrogen fuel infrastructure不是更有意义？
没意义 因为氢能源车是超级白象工程 日本都搞不定那种
每次看Uncle试驾都是新车，其实有没有想开一个新的Topic叫做Review旧车，毕竟也有很多很经典的旧车例如10年Camry，11年的TEANA，大小眼Benz，虎鼻BMW 5 Series等等经典老车，相信他们那时风光无限也是很多人心目中的梦想车，不过那个时代本地车媒基本没有几个，更不用说review，希望有天uncle Tai有时间的话能带我们重温那时的经典。
沒有可能，我現在一個人做五個人的工作，饒了我。
@@taichooyee 🤣，有comment有希望，看看有没有哪些二手车商有这些车要卖找你打广告review
Toyota Mirai 氫氣車在美國出了很久啦，沒有人買因為氫很貴而且加氫站很難找。
Toyota在美國賣爆的是Hybrid
为何需要打一个圈来发电，费时费力费能源，不如直接充電至鋰電池就好了。
The main hurdle in making EV more mainstream is the difficulty of installing charging points in condo/apartment. Many condo managements are reluctant to cooperate with owners who want to set up charging points due to the additional effort it requires. This is preventing me from owning an EV, as my condo management refuses to help with installation. I urge YB to address this issue promptly.
未来砂拉越的本土航空公司会采用清洁能源来作为飞机的驱动能源
做多一点这类的主题。电车听多了。但是氢能源是第一次。很有兴趣想要了解更多。
原来FCEV是这样的。。。很好的资讯分享！
下次可以讲述下市场上有多少FCEV的车款，身为消费者的我们可以参考参考~谢谢！
我记得有正真对外出售的只有Toyota Mirai, Kita Niro FCEV & BMW X5 FCEV 这几款罢了。而且私人购买比较少，多数是作为公司车队或者租赁车队方式让公众租用。因为氢气站真的真的超级少
这辆车我也坐过了 真的很高级
petronas ngv 和 这个hydrogen 算是同一个类型的东西吗，找了TH-cam都是好多年前的资讯而且也不清楚
亲，完完全全不同的东西
@@taichooyee 哈哈哈哈哈哈
虽然有点迟, 但希望祖億bro 可以 介绍一期 现在新款的W206 Mercedes CLA200, 本人对这款和C200 都非常感兴趣, 只看见你介绍过C200 , CLA却没有, 希望可以纳入考量当中
CLA 跟 A 是一樣的東西。
既然要用电去电解氢，那为何不直接用电去驱动车子呢？好像1kg的的氢最少需要55度电~~日本的思维真是让人想不明白
我们东马有的就是电啊。。
核电站是发展氢气的基础。转了一圈把能源消耗在制造氢气是环保吗
多讀書 不犯法的
Tai choo yee，几时可以看到砂拉越的部长上你的节目
我也是这么觉得，几时 @taichooyee 过来古晋找我们的部长了解一下氢能源，我相信可以让你得到更多的资讯。
@@TanTan-lx7in 最好不要找DR SIM，他讲话很吃力。听到很辛苦。
Fuel cell stack 是什么制作的？
发电厂用氢？新马可以合作
行車費還算蠻貴的呢，大約是 3.7km+- / RM1.00。5.6kg=1000 km，1 kg= US10（RM47+-)=178.5 7KM。普通汽油車的油耗基本是每 RM1.00= 4 - 8 km（看車的型號和路況）。而 EV 車每 kWh（0.546， 能買得起 EV 的人，家用電每個月基本一定是 601 kWh 以上的啦，過了 901 kWh 就要算 RM 0.571 的了，那些路邊的 charge port 就不要去算的了，收錢的 port 基本會更貴），普遍是 5 - 6 km（那些 8-10 km / kWh 都是吹的啦），所以每 RM 1.00 應該有 7.3 km+-。那種車較值不值得就看大家自己的理智的了。當然還要會算後期多年後的維修費用和二手保值問題的了。。
氢气通常不燃烧,只是爆炸力是十足的。不然也不用来做氢气弹了。但这能源是个好能源。总是会有坏处的。
那样看是否重型车辆用Hydrogen会更好！希望可以持续再发展！祖义哥如果电与hydrogen都普遍的的情况下，你会更偏向那个？
长途 Hydrogen 短途 BEV
@@taichooyee那么飞机一样也是可以用hydrogen 代替煤油？
一公斤氢气 能行驶100公里左右，但是生产一公斤氢气 所用的电量 足以让电动车行驶400-500公里了。
同时 氢能汽车 价位是 电能车的3-4倍， 20万性能的电能车，氢能车 价位大约60-70万不等。
“一公斤氢气 能行驶100公里左右，但是生产一公斤氢气 所用的电量 足以让电动车行驶400-500公里了。”
这个数据有没有出处啊？蛮好奇的。车价确实是个很大的问题毕竟不像电车 Tesla 一早就把自己的专利公开了，可以让一众的中国汽车抄作业把价钱打下来。除非 Toyota 也愿意把自己专利分享出来，不然价钱这件事应该暂时无解。当然如果政府真的想推行氢气车，还是可以通过政策来推动。（像现在的电动车）
不要忘了制造电车电池的电量可相等于 8000kwh, 差不多是 50,000km 的行程。还没开车就把 5万公里的电量用完了。。
要比较是有很多参数来考量。
@@edwinyee1011对对对，特斯拉的专利是用中文公布的，没有英文德文法文日文韩文，只给中国捡到了😂
@@bilibala9394 啊 对对对 中国电动车行业就是某个大人物一拍脑门就拍出来的技术，不需要研究的。😂
生产氢气也是要用到电，是有一点脱裤放屁的感觉，不如直接用电车，而且氢气罐的pressure高达700bar，你带着一个700bar的易燃易爆气体到处走，就如一个行走TNT，车祸直接gg。
从环保的角度，电车电池造成的污染比现在汽油车造成的污染大。除非解决电池污染的问题，不然氢气还是最优解
@@yong9976 这个一样是电车，一样有电池；汽车电气化是不可逆转的趋势；至于纯电、氢燃料、增程（油发电）；争论的无非是用 那种充电宝而已？
电动车也是一样，
要环保发电才是真正的环保，
所以政府正在大力发展清洁能源。
@@yong9976 氢气车里也有电池的
對，虽然氢气非常清洁环保，可是也非常容易爆炸，只要发生泄漏接触到热空气，就会变成小型氢弹！而且马来西亚是热带雨林，多数都是indoor parking,一旦在indoor parking 爆炸，我看整栋楼瞬间蒸发！
Why the minister did not speak in Malay language or in English ?
the whole session in Bahasa , only last 1 min in English
Our tyre only 30-35 psi.. and Mirai holding 3x 10,000psi.. can you imagine what will happen?
hahaha our yb so clever... he say hydrogen is the lightest element. but he ignored the weight of the tanks that need to be super strong to withstand the pressure ...
氫能源要普及還要30年, 日本的智庫的研究, 主要是壓縮氫能源跟運輸非常高成本
这个气罐为了装足够氢气里面有700个大气压力,一旦泄露或者爆炸,最少能炸掉一个街区.如果在地下车库爆炸那一栋楼瞬间就蒸发.
YB mentioned a rarely mentioned problem with EVs - the weight of the batteries and that our roads are not designed to take their weight. And the irony ... EVs are given the incentive of lower road tax. Where's the money for maintaining roads going to come from???
The question is , green hydrogen or grey hydrogen…
丰田刚刚已经宣布350亿美元发展纯电车了。老大哥都转向了还玩什么氢能源咩？
你无知不可怕但别出来秀无知😂😂😂
请问氢能源的副产品在产出后 后续会被怎样处理/利用呢？
排出的是水 你是要處理什麼
氢能源车目前比较适合商用车，家用还是不是太合适
實事求是的部長,,,比我們鄉港的廢官強九萬倍,,,, respect!
如果在撞車，會不會也好像那部 I 7 那樣 ，暴 3 ,4 次 ？
只会爆一次🙂
在美国清仓大甩卖都没人买
我比较好奇氢能源的车会像ev安静呢还是和传统燃油车一样吵🤔🤔🤔
下一集试驾会讲到
Don't be fool, many mirai buyer at USA regret their decision, there's always short of hydrogen, cost of hydrogen going up, hydrogen station always under maintenance due to nozzle frequently frozen and broken due to extreme low temperature. Please do research on USA user experience before jump on.
这集video 做得好
very informative video!
人类的需求是很暴力的，到头来，谁便宜，谁走得远，谁使用方便才是赢家。其实最早普及的个人交通工具是电动车，早于汽油车，但因为汽油车制造容易，续航远，很快就取代了电动车。我感觉氢动力车是很有潜力的，如果氢燃料价格能够打下来，是可以甩汽油车和电动车几条街的。
用核電去生產氫才是最便宜的，現在電車最大的問題是拖個幾百公斤的電池在路上走
核電確實是最有效率的，but....
@@taichooyee一旦发生意外爆炸了后果不堪设想搞不好会中辐射
这辆车在美国几年前就有人在用了~
绿氢才算真正的环保，无污染，问题是它应该不能有很大的产量
2024年，美国加州的shell已经全面撤离氢能源站了。成本太高了，而且同样有安全隐患。
对于没有出产石油的国家，氢气是石油另一个选择，有助于分散能源风险
@@teohlai5082 话是如此，如果氢能源的本质还是需要大量电源，那倒不如直接使用电车，成本相对更低了。何必多此一举呢？
@@observer9587 多一個選擇好過只有一個選擇，何況國家先前的地方發展導致并不是每個地區和每個人都適合用電動車。
日本就是發現自己國家有這方面的問題，所以才會研發氫氣這個新能源。事實上馬來西亞也是如此，除了那些本身是住在排屋的人就適合用電動車，因爲能在家充電。但對住在Flat的人就會很不友善，還有電動車本身對長途駕駛也是不友善。
你要想象一個情景，要是統一只有電動車的話，而且無法在家充電的是佔多數，充電又不能像打油一樣那麽短時間充滿，你知道充電站會是怎樣的情況？？
我並不是説電動車不好，但即使多好都還是有缺點。而且就算電動車有多麽好，也不可能完全無視它的缺點。還有一件事就是有人説電動車有多好，説到電動車好像完美無缺，那只是單純那人的日常生活環境適合用電動車，并不能代表每一個人都必定適合電動車。
除非電動車能有什麽方案能解決充電時間問題，不然的話氫氣是有必要存在，不然就是你個人覺得還有什麽能代替氫氣同時也比充電時間快的新能源？？
真的是存在 安全隐忧，里面没直接提到。制造车和氢能源站都不止成本，也考虑安全问题存在。我都是看TH-cam里面解释，不然已经大量生产了。
@@leerewei7213 那麼你有比氫氣更好的方案嗎？
看来HYDROGEN是适合用在大型车上。
为什么国油不要领先按装氢气站，对国油成本不是问题。
Sarawak 的petros 已经有了