Line 6 Helix - How To Create A Great Tone - Pt. 20 - Working With Harmonizers
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Here is part 20 in my series on Creating A Great Tone with the Line 6 Helix. I have had a number of requests over the past while to do a video talking about how to use the harmonizers in the Helix to create harmony lines for our lead playing. Here I examine a few of the included harmonizers we have at our disposal and how we can get these dialed in the way we need them. Thanks so much for tuning in and I hope you enjoy the video. Please subscribe to my channel if you are so inlcined... - เพลง
Wow - this is way more powerful than I realized. Thanks for the video.
My pleasure :-) Glad you liked the video!
Jason. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I’ve been a player for 42 years. Always been a tube amp purist. However I play at church where I need to access a very wide variety of tones. So I watched and rewatched a lot of your dialing in vids prior to buying my helix. So glad I did. Extremely helpful.
Nice stuff! For those who want to dive into Alan Holdsworth territory... +2 simple pitch with crunch gets you "Metal Fatigue". -5 simple pitch with a clean chorus gets you "Devil take the Hindmost"
Thank you so much Christopher :-) Those would be great settings for Holdsworth for sure, thanks for sharing!
Hi Jason,
I'm absolutely loving your videos, especially this series on dialing in tones on the Helix, as well as your incredible lessons on the pentatonic scale - so thanks!!
One thing I'd like to suggest for this (dialing in) series: most of us mere mortals have not yet developed our ear to the extent you have, and can have a difficult time hearing subtle tone differences/changes. One trick I use is to place a Looper at the beginning of the signal chain, play for a few bars, loop it, and then adjust tone on the looped playback. Perhaps a video on using a Looper for this and other uses would help a lot of people.
Cheers, and thanks again for all your efforts!
Thank so much Chris and so glad you enjoy the videos :-) I have done the looper trick before but strangely enough for me I find it much more intuitive to just play live while I do my dialing in. The looper trick is a great way to work though! Thanks for the suggestion!
Thanks for yet another super in depth informative video with Helix. I for one and I’m sure many others are not even close to being sound engineers. I’m a brand new Helix user and I’ll say the first few days I wanted to send it back. But after watching your videos,(day and night) I’ve decided that I just need to understand Helix. You’ve helped me do that. I’m still learning and watching your videos and doing research on how my Helix works and how to tune in my tone. It seems the possibilities are endless.
Helix is an amazing piece of equipment. Thankyou for your videos in helping us understand our helix and explaining it in terms us less experienced players can understand. I appreciate you man👍
Another great tutorial Jason! You just keep knocking them out of the park! Exactly what I was looking forward to! A great many, many, many thanks!
My pleasure and so glad you found it helpful Rick :-)
This info was really awesome for me thanks for the help with my helix!
Another excellent video. Everything is so clearly explained. Thanks Jason.
Thank you so much Tony and so glad you enjoyed :-)
Thanks for making this understandable. I was pulling out my hair in this.
An avenue for using harmonization with key changes would be to use snapshots for changing key.
Absolutely Jerry :-) Even for simply changing the interval of the harmony!
Another great video thank you, it did answer a lot of questions I had, plus it gave inspiration to go experiment 👍👍
Wonderful!! Thank you so much for this tutorial!
Thank you and my pleasure Billy :-)
awesome tutorial Jason. Really liked the Boston harmonizing tone. Their sound is one of the hardest to recreate due to all the all the sound engineering science that Tom Scholz was doing in the studio. Great job keep it up
Thanks so much Stephen :-)
Fantastic , informative and very detailed video Jason as usual
Thank you so much Alan and so happy you enjoyed the video :-)
This is great. Thanks Jason. Happy New Year.
Thanks so much Curt and Happy New Year to you too!
Great video. I wish there was a website that listed all-time popular harmonized song solos and just screenshot us which harmonizer settings to use for particular tunes. Half the battle is figuring out what key the solos are if you don't know any theory, and if you get past that.....then figuring out the helix part......ugh. I just want to plug and play and have fun.
Thanks for this one I'm a recent convert (About 2 weeks) with a helix lt. I like harmonisers - using boss and tc electronics quintessence just before converting to helix. So far I'm not finding the helix as good either before or after an overdrive block but maybe it's the makeup of the preset I've done- I'll work on it! I use it on bits of hotel California, the opening riff on Steve Harley's "Make Me Smile" plus a couple of others to fill out the lead. It would be. Interesting I think to see you demo it again on Hotel California, or even Steely Dan ( I can see you're fan) . Very helpful vids though as I absorb enough to make use of the Helix .
Brilliant stuff Jason
Thank you so much Jerry :-)
Very cool video, thank you Jason !
Solid video my man.
Brilliant!
Thank you :-)
Again very interesting Jason 🎸 Steven
Thank you so much Steven :-)
Great course! Thanks!
Thank you so much Alex :-)
So glad to have found this! My 14yo wants to do the harmonized solo on Detroit Rock City which is 2 harmonized parts - each of which is doubled an octave up for a total of 4 parts. I don't know how many modules you can use, maybe add a Simple Pitch for an octave up downstream from the Twin Harmony.
Nice! Hope it works perfectly for you :-)
Great vid. Saved me a lot of time and pain!!! Thank you.
Thank you and my pleasure :-)
Excellent!
Thank you so much Jerry :-)
The simple pitch it perfect for adding a bass octave for songs like "Master of the Spark" by ZZ Top. Billy still keeps a Bass Octave pedal in his effects chain and he uses it a subtle effect quite often. Bass Octave and fuzz is always good.
Oh yeah for sure it works great as an octave pedal as I demonstrated at around the 6 minute mark of this video :-)
Great stuff!
Thank you so much :-)
heh I can see I commented a few years ago. So re-watching this video today and I'm still lost and no more ahead with the twin harmony drop down choices and figuring out which key solos are in is also beyond my casual playing experience. I wish helix had an easier option to help people with no theory or desire to intake theory.
Thank you very much
You are welcome and thank you :-)
So depressing finding out how little I know about music theory when I've been playing over 20 years 🥺
Hi Jason. Thanks for showing this effect block in a way that I could understand. You're a great teacher. Could it be possible to get some instructions on using the volume pedal on the LT? Mine seams to jump from 0 to 100 instead of slowly presenting the sound and I can't figure it out... :-(
My pleasure and glad you enjoyed :-) Not sure why your expression pedal is working like that. You can look up my videos on use of the expression pedals and that might help.
Hi Jason, I'm a long-time Helix (LT) user and big fan of your channel. I am working on doing a Hotel California cover, but I'm challenged using the Twin Harmony with changing scale and key. Based on a You-Tube video I am using to learn the riffs during the verses, I need to change keys and scales as follows: B harmonic minor (-3), A Major (-3) and then G Major (-3). I've attempted to use the expression pedal to accomplish this (as suggested in this video) but I'm only able to shift between 2 keys for some reason based on how I am setting the ranges on the pedal. Wondering if you have any insight. Thanks for what you do, without your videos I don't think I would have gotten the Helix to the level it is now.
Hi Jason
Thanks for the great videos. I recently purchased a HX Fx and am finding your lessons really useful. One comment on this lesson...... I’ve been trying to play the main solo from “more than a feeling”. It seems the harmony outlined in your video doesn’t work in the solo. It seems to deviate from a straight G maj. any comment? Would be interested to hear.
My pleasure :-) Yes the main solo, if memory serves me correctly, is in fact in the key of D Major as opposed to the part of the song I was referring to in the video which is in G Major. So for the main solo you would want to set your Twin Harmony to the key of D Major. Hope that helps :-)
Random question: towards the end of the video, you were able to set up different intervals adjusted by your expression.
With the expression pedal, would you be also be able to have it adjust keys but keep the same intervals?
(Say: C--E for C major....then use the expression pedal to change to A major and then hear A--C#)?
Hey Jason, how are you?
How is the best way to get a harmony of Master Of Puppets duet in your opinion?
Cheers
Alright, so my band plays Bodisattva by Steely Dan. At the beginning is the two guitar lines then it goes to three. For the life of me, cannot get all that to gel. Using a snap shot for the first harmonies which sounds fine, once I add in the mission for the third harmony, it goes to crap.
Good stuff Jason! I was wondering if it was possible to run 2 of the "twin harmony" algorithms at the same time with DSP available for a delay and/or reverb?
Thanks so much Dan :-) I believe it is but of course that would be dependent on what else was on that path.
Thanks Jason! I guess when I become a helix owner I can finally retire some of my old ( but beloved) rack gear.
GREAT STUFF, IF YOU ARE A SOUND ENGINEER WITH ALL DAY TO CREATE AN ENJOYABLE SOUND. THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY "POSSIBLE" ALTERNATIVES. WITH ALL OF THE OPTIONS WITHIN THE GUITAR, AMPS AND FX EFFECTS - YOU COULD SPEND A LIFETIME "TRYING" TO FIND "THAT SOUND!". PAPA LOVES GUITAR MUSIC
Nice!
Thanks so much John :-)
@@JasonSadites I have just purchased a line 6 thanks to one of your videos
thanks to you it continues like this.
@@headleader1 that is awesome news! Congrats on the Helix addition :-)
Great vid. Mayhaps a new vid Racer X style using the Twin Harmony? I bey you could crush a version of Loud and Clear!
Thanks so much Jeremy :-) Man, that is a cool idea! I may have to look into that :-)
The version on Extreme Volume Live has much better harmonies between Gilbert/Bouillet... you know, for science...
Haha, exactly! It is funny you mentioned that, right after you posted the comment I went and listened to both versions and was thinking the exact same thing :-) Great minds I guess...LOL
Great video Jason. By the way, I loved when you said playing modally, the Minor option is somewhat redundant since the Major option is already there. Very true. But I'm guessing Line 6 threw the Minor option in there to make it easier for those that may not fully get the direct relationships between different modes and their parent Major "base". And thanks for confirming the Twin Harmony does indeed seem to work better after gain than before. Thanks!
Thanks so much Jon and glad you enjoyed :-)
Thanks for the info here. Just got a helix floor and I'm building/learning. I'm tuned down a 1/2 step. Would I set the key to an A if I'm in the key of A or G#?
Not sure how these things track.
My pleasure! I would set it to the actual pitch you are playing into it...hope that helps!
I've played around a bit with this and enjoy it a lot. Question, what would happen if you bent a note through any given interval where the harmonizer would have to shift to adjust? I hope that question made sense
Hey jason...awsome as are all your vids but this tone seems to have loads of sustain and natural harmonics bleeding through?....could you list how your getting this...thanks
Thank you so much Kevin :-) As far as the tone in this video, I am not really sure how that is being accomplished as I followed the same general way I make most of my presets. Maybe it is the Harmonizers that are adding that?
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Hey Jason, cool video, as usual, but do I need to use the expression pedal for the twin harmony feature?
Great explanation however I don't know any theory. What key would Thin Lizzy's Cowboy Song be in?
Thank you Mike :-) I am not familiar with the song so I can't say. Although, a quick Google of it says D Major but not sure if that is correct.
Perfect. Thanks for the starting point and the quick response. Your vids are helping me be able to use my LT on my own as oppsed to just copying. Keep up the great work its appreciated.
My pleasure and really glad to hear the videos are helping :-)
Great video. I didn't think about using the expression pedal with the harmony. Do you think it's possible to create a passable B bender type effect with the Helix?
Thanks so much :-) Not sure that would be possible though.
What amp model you’re using here?
Great sound. Well explained.
Thank you :-) As I mentioned in the video it is the Cartographer amp model...
Hi Jason, how do i get the harmonzier to sound like two guitars, like Thin Lizzy - The Boys are back in Town? Thank you.
I'm having a hard time finding Allman Bros. harmony like G major for Rambling Man
So if I tune down a half step I need to be cognizant of that when using the Twin Harmony because it will assume my "A chord" is an A vs an actual G#. But if I was simply doing an octave I could use the simple pitch at 12th interval and it does not matter whether I tune down or not it should track fine
correct
Can you please post this in Custom Tone ? Thanx
Jason, is there any tips you can give to make tones work for headphones? (maybe a dedicated video) .. rarely does a tone that sounds great while your setting them up on your FRFR sound good on headphones. I have a hard time with this since its how i use the helix while practicing at home. Thx!
I would probably start by bringing your high cut down until it sounds acceptable. That may help what some people feel is a bit of a fizzy tone you get when listening on headphones. Let me know if that helps at all :-)
Yes i usually do that but still somehow they don't translate well. Recently a facebook member of the helix group uploaded a tone that was perfect for headphones and usb out direct into quicktime. Going to have to dissect it ... it sounded niiice th-cam.com/video/UtiEqHVRang/w-d-xo.html
Nice! It really also depends a lot on the particular headphones that a person is using also. I use Senheisser HD600's and I really find all my patches translate very nicely with those.
I'm wearing the HD 600 :) , lovely piece of gear. You have good taste in headphones sir
Hello if I’m tune 430 does that make a difference
Can you use it with two harmonies plus your dry signal?
Yes there is a model in there that can do that I believe...
Hey... I have a huge favor to ask, Jason...Could you help me figure out what key to use for the little solo instrumental part in “Your Love” by the outfield? I think it technically changes keys.
Thanks again for all your help
Hey Jeff, no problem at all :-) It would be the key of D Major. Even though the chords are G Major and A Major under that solo section, the melody is straight from D Major so what you are soloing over is the IV and V chord of the key. Hope that helps!!
+Jason Sadites perfect!!! I’ll try that out this weekend! Thanks again for all that you do!
Awesome! My pleasure and let me know how it works out for you :-)
Hi Jason,
Could you help me with the settings for a twin harmony for the Whiskey In the Jar solo? I just can’t understand the theory to get it right🤪
I would have to take a look at that as I haven't played that song in a very long time. Couldn't tell you off the top of my head.
Don’t worry. I’ll try some of the forums.
How can i make an a7x tone?any suggestions?
Are all these parameters available with the HX stomp?
Yes they are :-)
Have you compared Helix Pitch Shifting to something like a POG?
No I haven't up to this point.