Given KTM’s recent challenges I think they need to be more price competitive and as a sign of goodwill drop the Try before you Buy features and just bundle those with the standard bike. They need to win back some credibility.
dont understand why people are hating this display. better having a slightly bigger screen with navigation functionality instead of having to put your phone every time on the bars
Its good to see the got rid of the cutouts in the head and valve cover for the cams, this should have been done a long time ago. That seal likes to leak. I have a 2020 890 R and the valve cover gasket has been replaced and still leaks a little bit. Say what you will, I have had my bike on the dyno and I was impressed with my numbers. This was just one time with 3 runs and could have varied with more runs but I turned 126 hp and 76 lbs to the wheel and its amazing.
That seems like a change in philosophy for rear suspension on a street bike. I like the exhaust routing. The whole design looks like it would make a good scrambler with maybe good rider comfort.
I swear motobobs channel is a perfect example of motorcycle content stagnation: a guy reading spec sheets from a brand who just bumps up capacity every few years and calls it an update while not addressing reliability issues. Amazing.
Ahoooj, letos jsem jsi koupili duka 990 tzn 2024 a mám na nem nalitano 5tis km a zatím klape skvěle, jedine co jsem si nechal poladit je quickshifter na 5 a 6 uz nechtěl kopat.... techpack a trackpak jsem mel k moto gratis. Za mě super lehka a zábavná motorka na ktere se skvěle sedí, měřím 186cm
So...the new look is a vast improvement over the standard 990 Duke. I was quite underwhelmed when I saw that bike in the flesh - all that matt black on the engine, frame ,seat, tank; it was way too monochrome. The use of an orange frame and white side panel really makes the bike pop, IMO. But it won't get much traction in the market until KTM fix the mechanical and PR disaster of the cams etc; so far 0 out of 10 for honesty and customer engagement. And with bikes like the MT-09 coming in A$ 3-5 K cheaper they won't sell many in Aus. And to take up on cornelliushoffman below, "Who is this bike for"..... not many riders downunder.
@@fearme46 Don't get me wrong, I like the Duke and Duke R line, but the Super Motard thing has never really taken off in Aus, at least not in Victoria. Have a look at BikeSales and there are plenty of 890 and 990 Dukes still in the dealers showrooms. Yes there are plenty of 390's around and some big V twins, but I only very rarely see a Duke. With the list price of the 990 at just over A$20K the R will probably have a list price of A$22+, which is more than A$4K over the Yamaha MT-09-SP. On top of that there are the camshaft issues widely publicised but not acknowledged by KTM. Finally, the Duke R is being promoted as a track focused, pants on fire weapon. While I would love to have all the nice bits on a bike in my garage the reality of a combination of price, zero tolerance law enforcement, and the lingering smell of reliability issues is going to make it hard to sell the 990 R to any but a handful of KTM die hards, track day warriors, or wealthy individuals lucky enough to put one in their games rooms.
@ respectfully, the Duke isn’t a super motord, it’s a naked. They are nothing alike and, the naked bike thing is massively popular. You say you don’t understand who this bike is for? Yet you just named KTM die hards, track day warriors and wealthy individuals? You literally just described thousands of customers… I think people need a break from the comment section and get out in the real world. Just cause the keyboard warriors here can’t afford one of these doesn’t mean thousands of people can’t. I’m from Victoria and see Dukes all the time. Now I definitely understand what you’re saying about their recent reliability issues and maybe some people skip out on this model and go straight up to the 1390 but, this bike most definitely has a market.
have I not seen duke 890r's for sale 23 model for like under ten grand? all due no doubt to the cam issue, that's the one I'd buy..I've got a 22 model, but I paid full whack twelve and a half..well pissed off..Great bike though..cams allowing. I certainly wouldn't pay for a new 990 though, just silly money
At this rate If Any Dealers still exist, then someone is going to have a bike that look just like all the others ! P&H Crawley Gone .. where are you soon apart from online to look .. as for test rides you'll need a few days trip to arrange that 1hr test ride 🧐
where do you supposed to ride these bikes ? track? who is the audience ? i cant see older guys will be wanting it and it will be too expensive for younger crowd . So who is this bike for ? STIFF? in UK roads ?
I’m 52. Been riding bikes for 40 years. Every type of bike. The standard 990 and new 1390 are the two standout best (road) bikes I’ve ever ridden. I’ve been waiting for this R model! I’ll ride it to work. And on the weekend between cafe rides, motard, motocross, enduro and other stuff on my other bikes. Admittedly I don’t live in England anymore, and it’ll be on Aussie roads and tracks!
Massive, expensive TFT screens on track focussed bikes? Replacement cost for that after a crash would be huge. Why does everyone want a stupid iPad for a dash it looks shit
Ummm.... Z900SE MT-09SP 765RS Ducati Monster Ducati's new 890 V-twin with VVT engine just released MV Agusta Brutale RR CB1000R Why did Yamaha put out an MT-09SP model when they were already launching an R9? Same deal.
Hey look! An updated motorcycle! What did they do? Added tech amenities. Added power. Oh..... the two most tired methods of motorcycle brands for the last 20 years.
Bottom line is the price has jumped and the reliability and trust has tanked. Sad story that doesn't end well. I don't even think I've seen a 990 riding around.
I am currently owning my 7th Ktm. And besides 1 slave master (that I was planning on replacing with a Oberon anyways) I have NEVER had any issue with any of them
Honestly I’ve liked everything what they have done in recent years, but unfortunately I’m not liking the new tft, hell No the aspect ratio it terrible 😢
Same LC8c base engine = small chance overhead cams are toast at 12k miles. Why take the risk when they still haven't officially admitted to the problem on older models? And their customer service has a long way to go... It is a shame, because it is looks like good spec bike..
@@kitperry777 790s and 890s are affected, i've heard no complaints with the 990s. Even though they are non committal about the cams, KTM definitely won't repeat the mistake with newer products.
@kitperry777 are there a lot of 2023/2024 owners that have actually reached the mileage that this shows up at? Gotta be a very small number who've even ridden enough miles on a newer model to truly see if it's still a problem.
Hornet is in the 140-ish horsepower range. Stop comparing bikes from other categories. It's not like the Z900 and GSX-S1000 haven't been sitting here for years, and no one was talking about them.
Yes go buy this more expensive version to find out that all your engine is ruined and you've lost even more money. Who cares about brakes when the bike is going to the scrapyard?
The display has a weird ratio. Maybe it makes sense as a dashboard, but not for showing maps and directions on it... if that's possible. Also, that insect face is getting more horrible with every iteration.
Given KTM’s recent challenges I think they need to be more price competitive and as a sign of goodwill drop the Try before you Buy features and just bundle those with the standard bike. They need to win back some credibility.
Agreed but you know they won't, I expect this bike to be ridiculously priced
For that sort of price you can get an MT10 an S1000R and even the superb Aprilia Tuono 1100 V4 non factory.
dont understand why people are hating this display. better having a slightly bigger screen with navigation functionality instead of having to put your phone every time on the bars
YUGE SCREEN! Doubles as a laptop for moto vlogging!
With KTM i’d wait till the end of the model year for owner’s reliability info, and there are always left overs at deep discounts.
Hornet SP £10G!!!
MT09 SP
Characterful. Hornet lacks it.
Yeah that bike has made a lot of other bikes not make much sense financially.
Hornet for sure 🤟
@@titancodm1098How do you know?
As an owner of duke 890 I really don't recommend buying ktm... I had some many problems with it. Cost me thousands of $ to fix the damn thing...
A cinema screen for a dash is mad
Literally 4 seconds into the video before we got an "and look"
Punisher of Cams 💀
Its good to see the got rid of the cutouts in the head and valve cover for the cams, this should have been done a long time ago. That seal likes to leak. I have a 2020 890 R and the valve cover gasket has been replaced and still leaks a little bit. Say what you will, I have had my bike on the dyno and I was impressed with my numbers. This was just one time with 3 runs and could have varied with more runs but I turned 126 hp and 76 lbs to the wheel and its amazing.
320 mm rotors on the front for the R version then. The regular 990 has smaller rotors at 300mm.
So fvcking bad ass🤙🏼 This thing laughs at 600’s all day. “Supersport” hahaha🤣
This is what we were waiting for the R version, it's probably going to be proper street and track monster ❤❤❤.
Love it
Now RC990 for the road😂,🤟🤟
Will it be reliable? 😮
Needs a cowl to cover up the front of the HUGE speedo display.
1 camshaft every 6k miles as regular maintenance
Aftermarket will sort that out
Probably get a sunburn on the face if the thing is in full brightness.
I’m only interested in what Honda have new for 2025
That seems like a change in philosophy for rear suspension on a street bike. I like the exhaust routing. The whole design looks like it would make a good scrambler with maybe good rider comfort.
I have my fingers crossed for the 990 SMT.... lets hope it comes for 2025...
I swear motobobs channel is a perfect example of motorcycle content stagnation: a guy reading spec sheets from a brand who just bumps up capacity every few years and calls it an update while not addressing reliability issues. Amazing.
Ahoooj, letos jsem jsi koupili duka 990 tzn 2024 a mám na nem nalitano 5tis km a zatím klape skvěle, jedine co jsem si nechal poladit je quickshifter na 5 a 6 uz nechtěl kopat.... techpack a trackpak jsem mel k moto gratis. Za mě super lehka a zábavná motorka na ktere se skvěle sedí, měřím 186cm
Camshafts still made from chinesium?
Bro, these comments are so cringe now. At least be clever about it.
More like made in Austria.
Poor heat treatment. Poor surface finish. Insufficient lubrication.
Ready to repair 😂
Exactly, just got my ktm serviced, had breaking issues and oil leaking. Service cost me 2500 US$ ... Never buying ktm again
@FrenchyRider574 Désolé pour toi, c'est vraiment décevant.
Do you konw 2023 1290sdr price in china now? only 15000£
Around the same price as the new updated BMW S1000r. I know what I would buy. 🤔 BMW all day long.
Buy your extended warranties everyone 😅
So...the new look is a vast improvement over the standard 990 Duke. I was quite underwhelmed when I saw that bike in the flesh - all that matt black on the engine, frame ,seat, tank; it was way too monochrome. The use of an orange frame and white side panel really makes the bike pop, IMO. But it won't get much traction in the market until KTM fix the mechanical and PR disaster of the cams etc; so far 0 out of 10 for honesty and customer engagement. And with bikes like the MT-09 coming in A$ 3-5 K cheaper they won't sell many in Aus. And to take up on cornelliushoffman below, "Who is this bike for"..... not many riders downunder.
Why would the price affect Australian consumers? I see KTMs everywhere here, what do you mean “who is this for?”
@@fearme46 Don't get me wrong, I like the Duke and Duke R line, but the Super Motard thing has never really taken off in Aus, at least not in Victoria. Have a look at BikeSales and there are plenty of 890 and 990 Dukes still in the dealers showrooms. Yes there are plenty of 390's around and some big V twins, but I only very rarely see a Duke. With the list price of the 990 at just over A$20K the R will probably have a list price of A$22+, which is more than A$4K over the Yamaha MT-09-SP. On top of that there are the camshaft issues widely publicised but not acknowledged by KTM. Finally, the Duke R is being promoted as a track focused, pants on fire weapon. While I would love to have all the nice bits on a bike in my garage the reality of a combination of price, zero tolerance law enforcement, and the lingering smell of reliability issues is going to make it hard to sell the 990 R to any but a handful of KTM die hards, track day warriors, or wealthy individuals lucky enough to put one in their games rooms.
@ respectfully, the Duke isn’t a super motord, it’s a naked. They are nothing alike and, the naked bike thing is massively popular. You say you don’t understand who this bike is for? Yet you just named KTM die hards, track day warriors and wealthy individuals? You literally just described thousands of customers…
I think people need a break from the comment section and get out in the real world. Just cause the keyboard warriors here can’t afford one of these doesn’t mean thousands of people can’t. I’m from Victoria and see Dukes all the time. Now I definitely understand what you’re saying about their recent reliability issues and maybe some people skip out on this model and go straight up to the 1390 but, this bike most definitely has a market.
Hornet 1000 SP 100%
have I not seen duke 890r's for sale 23 model for like under ten grand? all due no doubt to the cam issue, that's the one I'd buy..I've got a 22 model, but I paid full whack twelve and a half..well pissed off..Great bike though..cams allowing. I certainly wouldn't pay for a new 990 though, just silly money
KTM will kill itself
At this rate If Any Dealers still exist, then someone is going to have a bike that look just like all the others !
P&H Crawley Gone .. where are you soon apart from online to look .. as for test rides you'll need a few days trip to arrange that 1hr test ride 🧐
Can it.......hold on.....one second...wheelie? You knew that was coming dont lie...lol
Wow what a difference... N O T !
where do you supposed to ride these bikes ? track? who is the audience ? i cant see older guys will be wanting it and it will be too expensive for younger crowd . So who is this bike for ? STIFF? in UK roads ?
I’m 52. Been riding bikes for 40 years. Every type of bike. The standard 990 and new 1390 are the two standout best (road) bikes I’ve ever ridden. I’ve been waiting for this R model! I’ll ride it to work. And on the weekend between cafe rides, motard, motocross, enduro and other stuff on my other bikes. Admittedly I don’t live in England anymore, and it’ll be on Aussie roads and tracks!
Massive, expensive TFT screens on track focussed bikes? Replacement cost for that after a crash would be huge. Why does everyone want a stupid iPad for a dash it looks shit
New for 2025, not just 💩cams, but 💩 valves too now!
Why on earth they need a naked track bike when they are about to launch the RC9R...🤕🤕🥴🥴🥴
Ummm....
Z900SE
MT-09SP
765RS
Ducati Monster
Ducati's new 890 V-twin with VVT engine just released
MV Agusta Brutale RR
CB1000R
Why did Yamaha put out an MT-09SP model when they were already launching an R9? Same deal.
Hey look! An updated motorcycle! What did they do?
Added tech amenities.
Added power.
Oh..... the two most tired methods of motorcycle brands for the last 20 years.
Are you watching Yamaha re: R9?
990 Duke represents everything the Yamaha isn’t…?
Reliability?
@@chriswest2290 Or lack of...
Unreliably way more fun
@ehiggins7476 not my idea of fun 😂
Clothing on the Duke: RC9R
Bottom line is the price has jumped and the reliability and trust has tanked. Sad story that doesn't end well. I don't even think I've seen a 990 riding around.
I am currently owning my 7th Ktm. And besides 1 slave master (that I was planning on replacing with a Oberon anyways) I have NEVER had any issue with any of them
@@Toxicdemon2lmao
@@valeblizI’m gonna go out on a limb and say the guy using “lmao” doesn’t even own a bike…
Unfortunately many of us KTM owners have @@Toxicdemon2
Yamaha and Kawasaki are calling for your money.
For this kind of bike the TFT screen is too big.
Honestly I’ve liked everything what they have done in recent years, but unfortunately I’m not liking the new tft, hell No the aspect ratio it terrible 😢
Have they fixed the cam shaft issues?
Overpriced , questionable engine and electrical reliability. No thanks .
what have they done to the duke range, hahahah
15k plus 1k for the teck pack 😢
Same LC8c base engine = small chance overhead cams are toast at 12k miles. Why take the risk when they still haven't officially admitted to the problem on older models? And their customer service has a long way to go...
It is a shame, because it is looks like good spec bike..
Didn't KTM say this problem has been addressed and no longer an issue on new models!
They admitted the problem, only stated that it's a small percentage
@@churchofbrap876 they said that but people with the 890 are still reporting the same problems..
@@kitperry777 790s and 890s are affected, i've heard no complaints with the 990s. Even though they are non committal about the cams, KTM definitely won't repeat the mistake with newer products.
@kitperry777 are there a lot of 2023/2024 owners that have actually reached the mileage that this shows up at? Gotta be a very small number who've even ridden enough miles on a newer model to truly see if it's still a problem.
Did KTM outline what brand of chewing gum they’re making their new 990s engine internals out of as well?
First they cri that the dash is to sm-all and now its to big? HOW GOOD ARE THE CAMS MATE? I think that's the question you should ask.
Cheesy top end?
I wouldn't touch a KTM parallel twin until there is substantial evidence (lots of owners with > 20K miles) that the chesse cam issue has been solved.
That screen is too big
Extra dark chocolate cams? Damn i kinda want a Duke, but don't trust these bikes.
Hornet willn destry this
Hornet is in the 140-ish horsepower range. Stop comparing bikes from other categories. It's not like the Z900 and GSX-S1000 haven't been sitting here for years, and no one was talking about them.
*NEVER EVER BUY A KTM* as long as it's under the Pierer Mobity AG.
KTM lost my custom with the &90/890 warranty scandal and the manufacturing move to china. And the over pricing.. Hard pass.
Yes go buy this more expensive version to find out that all your engine is ruined and you've lost even more money. Who cares about brakes when the bike is going to the scrapyard?
Sorry KTM!....I wouldn't buy one just because of that awful plastic headlight, just like the 990 & the Superduke....get rid of the damn thing.
Should be good for 12k miles 😅
It’s hilarious listening to all the clowns complaining about the cams and price like they could ever afford it anyway 🤡
Your videos always manage to cheer me up even on the grayest day. Thank you for your cheerful creativity and positive approach!🎂🟨🐰
i hope i dont eat my words in the future, but I wouldn't buy a naked bike with that huge screen. it really feels out of place.
The display has a weird ratio. Maybe it makes sense as a dashboard, but not for showing maps and directions on it... if that's possible. Also, that insect face is getting more horrible with every iteration.
Ugly, and un reliable.. Well done ktm😂
NOBODY NEEDS THIS !!!!
😂😊
Ugly, overpriced and unreliable. Who even buys these?
Enough people to prove whether they will be reliable or not.
@ people have bought KTMs and already proved they’re not reliable 😅
1 camshaft every 10000 kilometres