@@jbandjae3991 I know kids who whent to school in the suburbs and are way more hood them y'all spoon fed kids,Y'all live and grew up in the safest times in history,Goofy...
Most of y’all don’t even qualify to speak on the black experience, for 1 real street dudes know ja not “gangster” who tf uses that word, and 2 yes Michael b Jordan is a corny simp MONEY DONT UNLAME A LAME.
It’s hard being a black man in America that’s for sure. You aren’t black enough to your own community if you don’t act a certain way and other races place so many stereotypes on you but at the end of the day, when you’re an adult you’re responsible for your own actions. Ja Morant doesn’t deserve a pass or any sympathy because he’s young and has a lot of money. He needs to mature and take responsibility for his own actions. These are lessons he should’ve learned when he was a child
Shady said we were kids. Oh we gonna make mistakes. Well LeBron and Kobe. They came at a high school and they were young and they never cause trouble. What’s the difference in maturity it’s the dad. His dad can’t say nothing to him because he’s getting an allowance from ja. He just tells his dad to shut up.
So we just gone keep blaming his friends ? I didn’t see one of his friends hold a gun on camera. Every incident I hear about it’s Ja doing. We gotta stop thinking that people that hang around celebrities are the ones making them do bad things when in reality some celebrities including athletes are just bad people, being talented doesn’t mean you can’t be a bad human being
but not one of his boyz partying with him that night told him naw dog don't go live with a gun. and whomever the gun was registered to? they are going to have to account for that. and if it's Ja? traveling with a gun on official team business and to another state - not knowing what their gun laws are? he's in more trouble than shaking that little bitty gun on IG live. dude is done. mark my words.
I don’t see any of those so called friends saying put that gun down and I am assuming one of those friends are filming and the rest are co signing. The problem is he probably has a bunch of people living off him and telling him everything he wants to hear.
That last line is real. Not just Joy but honestly I've known some women when they have matured and how they've changed etc and I can't help but wish I was one of their past mistakes etc. Especially if present day you have slim to no chance with them.
@@Shalekaknowssports No it's not,His friends didn't beat up a 16 year old he did,His mom called him when she argued with an employee at a show store in the mall not his friends,His real name ain't even Ja it's Trevarious,He use to go to a private school with kids who's parents were politicians are u dumb?He chose to act tuff,He grew up rocking a pink high top fade church shoes and Khaki shorts but it's not his fault,Black people are never accountable
@@kambuibomani231 in a sane world the treatment should be more harsh for Ja than Kyries. Kyrie didn't wave a gun around or have homies pointing lasers at people. Dude had opinions that hurt people's feelings. That's about it🤷
Lord all these former athletes love saying it’s not easy getting millions of dollars at that young age of 22 and navigating life. The rest of us have to adhere to those same rules while struggling to make ends meet. Nobody is asking athletes to be saints or be perfect
It's like winning the lottery. Most lottery winners lose it all within 5 years or 10 years even if they don't plan on going on huge spending sprees. Getting huge sums of money doesn't suddenly develop good financial habits. Most NBA players figure it out as, unlike with winning the lottery, they can keep getting large sums of money over the years and have time to develop good financial habits and/or hire people with good financial habits. They're also young and dumb. Ja is like 23 years old. Being a public figure also puts a lot of pressure on top of everything else which can lead to bad decisions.
To be honest people are going to make mistakes weather you’re rich or broke, more money doesn’t fix bad spending habits, it doesn’t fix drug addiction or attitudes. It only makes it worse. You have to be good from the start.
Shady keeps saying Ja grew up in the hood.......he didn't. He grew up in a healthy middle class family. Big difference than growing up in the hood. Ja is essentially pretending he is from the streets for clout, that's what Shady is missing. Hopefully Ja gets right. He's a treat to watch on the court.
Well, look at today's hip hop artist. Many of these guys are not from the hood and never grew up in the hood but they pretend because it sells records to be "hood or gangster". Many of these young artist of today are not the same as the guys from the 80's or 90's who actually came from the hood.
It doesn’t matter if you grow up from the streets or the hood! I can promise you the middle class is one pay check from being poor! That’s the terrible mentality we have as people! The money and fame this guy has now isn’t comparable to where he came from so he has to adjust! I think it’s ridiculous that’s people want to punish Ja so much because of his brashness they are basically starting to treat and talk about him as if he isn’t human! Understand that the same measure y’all judge him is the same measure you will be judged! Keep that in mind when your turn hits! Everyone makes bad decisions no matter how old we are!
It doesn’t matter where he grew up, he broke the law and could be punished severely! Everyone acting like if he was from a bad environment it would be ok, people come from bad environments all the time but don’t break the law. He’s mentally immature and I hope Iverson reaches out to him if he hasn’t already
13:28 Lol I’m a “Jordan is the obvious Goat” guy, but the pressure on Ja Morant is newborn baby’s gameplay compared to the pressure, money, and fame that was thrown at LeBron James and LeBron James was much younger than Ja Fool Morant.
@@jacquelinestokes7707 What's ignorant is Black people that capitalize Caucasian, Hispanic, Jewish, and Asian, but in writing of themselves they ascribe lowercasing and objectify themselves as if.... speaking about a car. I'm a Black man, driving a black car; not a black man, driving a black car. The former is correct, the latter is ignorant.
Ja wags a gun on IG and these people are blaming slavery lol. Bit of a reach there. He's a young rich kid, who's likely immature and surrounded by the wrong people. We don't need to go back to slavery to see that. This show isn't going to last much longer.
My big problem is they using his age as a crutch….there been a lot of 23 superstars in the NBA that has not or is not doing what Ja is doing….Ja new to look at what he has to lose and call ppl like AI or Gilbert Arenas…. Don’t learn from ur mistakes learn from others so u don’t make them
Mistakes vs Choices... He's making choices!!! Here's a thought Skip n Shannon made a point perhaps he is really more of gangster than we think and if so Why would you get out you would want to get back in that chaos..
@@rollinstonemoula9689 he has made more than two. The laser pointer at stadium that he pointed at another team security personnel, bringing a gun on a road-trip to Denver and filming and putting the gun video on the web.
She can. Being biracial, she can relate 2 fold. Her and her brother (NFL Hall Of Famer) Jason Taylor both dealt with it. Not "Black enough" for some and "Not White enough" for others. That's their reality. In Ja's case, Shady can relate best having lived through it. Acho, as a Nigerian-American, had a different experience. Speaking my experience and what I've seen, some Nigerian-Americans view Black Americans as inferior even through I am as intelligent, cultured, and can assimilate and speak in many social situations. I guess living in the same state as Ja, I saw the rough side of life as a child. However, I also saw the slow and steady economic rise of my family through my parents hard work. I attended both public and private schools. I've seen examples of all 3 of these hosts life experiences.
Joy, your way off on your monologue. You're really going to blame slavery for a generationally wealthy NBA player waving a gun around in an Instagram video? If he grows up and stops doing stupid stuff he will be worth a billion dollars before he's done.
From my experience kids with both parents, very religious family's etc, parents who are very strict. Those kids be the ones who act out the most, especially when they are around kids who are less fortunate. It's like they do have to try to qualify themselves and it never ends up good. Truth be told you can't save everyone. When the light shines the brightest it shows you who you really are deep within. Ja is definitely walking the wrong path and the world is watching and that itself can drive a young man over the edge.
Mmm… I agree with you about sone kids from homes like that. But most turn out to be good people in society that has had a good home, religious and strict to a “certain degree” growing up, but I hear you cause I’ve seen exactly what you said as well!
@@davidbaggs2273 correct David I agree let’s put a percentage on it that turn out bad like Ja versus the ones that are good citizens in society and don’t cause trouble
Oh man I can’t even start to do that bro I’m just saying I’ve seen kids turn out both ways. I’ve raided 4 and thank God they all turned out fantastic. But I seen good parents have kids go a little off the rails. I’m not faulting Ja. I’ve done the exact same thing. Not on instagram. But the same thing and worse. But bro has a high standard he has to hit if he wants the bank roll coming to him. He got to grow up quick. I think JA just got sone of the wrong people around him. I think he will make it ok. I hope 🤞
What's the difference between a young person working in a factory and a young sports star? Are they not the same in years? Why then does someone that messes up but is not celebrated not given the same excuse based on age. Do the millions of dollar serve to judge someone differently? I hope that's not the case. JM should be held to the same standards as any young man. Please let's stop the BS and let's stop giving these punks a free ride. I was waiting for Joy to tell us she too use to carry a firearm in the hood. I see two men who because of their abilities led a very pamper life.
What's crazy is that everyone is making excuses for his bad behavior. Jason Tatum is the same age, and he doesn't act like that, and he's also raising his son.
Joy could make an episode where all she talks about are the "mistakes" she's made in her youth and it would probably get more views than the highest viewed video for Speak,
Good segment, but Acho has already separated himself from urban Black culture so his conversation is disingenuous. That said, what Ja is doing is flat ridiculous and hustling backwards by any measure. Blackness is about navigating with intelligence and awareness…he is doing neither.
3:57 Wait, wait, wait. So which one of his homies hog-tied Ja, forced him to go on a livestream, grabbed his hand, placed a female-level/female-sized blicky in his hand, and forced him to raise the strap in the view of the phone-camera’s lens? 🤷♂️
Facts!! He’s talking like that because he got called out a few weeeks ago for his Bs. This is more of a case of a person that didn’t grow up in a certain life glorifying it.
It's the reason most young successful men leave the neighborhood they grew up in cause you're going to be tested and it's hard from my experience but I was broke with nothing to lose so I went all in.
It's a major cultural problem. 🧐 Why is it uncool to be smart and talk intelligently 🤓 ?? Why is it cool to carry guns and have big gold teeth. It's cultural acceptance
Shady had the best take by far on this segment because it hit him close to home. Sucks Ja had to learn the hard way but hopefully he does for the better
No he didn’t. Shaft made some great points but wasn’t the best take. He’s speaking from a place of “I wish someone had excused my behavior” instead of “I wished someone had pulled me aside” first.
Shady making excuses….. he always very athlete friendly and as a athlete I get it! But Ja ain’t running the streets with a bunch of “hood dudes” he grew up with cause he ain’t grow up that way…… he let the hard streets of Memphis get to his head Nd he tryna fit in
It’s hard being a black man in America that’s for sure. You aren’t black enough to your own community if you don’t act a certain way and other races place so many stereotypes on you but at the end of the day, when you’re an adult you’re responsible for your own actions. Ja Morant doesn’t deserve a pass or any sympathy because he’s young and has a lot of money. He needs to mature and take responsibility for your own actions. These are lessons he should’ve learned when he was a child
Ja morant is only 23. At 23 I’m sure we all was still doing dumb things the only difference is he’s a millionaire and a celebrity so it’s magnified. Hopefully this is the situation that makes him learn and mature from it.
I don't know what yall are talking about when yall said shady gave the best take. Please explain. All i hear is excuses. This isn't just one mistake. This man had a list of allegations piling on him all week and then to go on IG and try and flex is just being completely tone deaf. As a black man I'm tired of hearing the excuse, "it's hard to be young, black, and successful." What do you mean? He's got the blueprint of great players in the league to look up to. He's trying so hard to be something he's not. I'm not even against guns, but when you start trying to flex with it and throw up gang signs you're inviting trouble, not just carrying for protection. On a side note that's why the NBA has heavy security so you don't have to. This man has a daughter, crazy endorsements, and 200 million, but you'd rather be NBA youngboy. All these dudes that grew up in the hood (Stephen Jackson, Jalen rose, paul pierce) act like they're the only one that allowed to speak on Ja Morants situation like they're gatekeepers. "He made a mistake and apologized." I don't care about none of that. After all that been put out with the pacers, the 17yr old, the mall security. That's not simple mistakes. Zion is in new Orleans and he ain't letting his city influence him, Trae isn't letting ATL influence him. All these ex nba hood players did come from that lifestyle while Ja didn't. He trying to pursue that life. Dude is old enough to know right from wrong.
"This guy's a gangster? His real name's Clarence And Clarence lives at home with both parents And Clarence's parents have a real good marriage". Ja Morant is a real life Clarence😂💀💀
Oh god, can one show make it about Ja Morant and not make it about themselves! “I’ve been through a similar situation”, “I am Ja Morant”, “I’ve been in his shoes”, “I know what he’s going through”. Just shut the eff up and talk about what he is going through.
I'm sorry, I don't get the connection from some in the black community telling other blacks they are oreos and not black enough to white supremacy and slavery. Please someone explain how that's connected. ...
Can’t blame this on “The people around him”. It’s lazy. He is a fully grown and competent adult. He should already know what he was doing was risky. At least he didn’t hurt anyone or himself. This is why you have parents to help you navigate these issues during your maturation as an adult.
please go listen to Marcellus wily on why ppl says that about Acho he is from Africa and didn't have to grow up the same as American black ppl go through.
The number one issue in the black community is a lack of accountability. It shows with Ja. It’s always someone else’s fault instead of taking ownership.
Everyone have a knife in the kitchen, but will anyone stupid enough holding knife in a public place while interacting ? Even if one have no bad intentions, the negative message is clear. So yeah, it's immature and dumb.
Emmanuel Acho, Acho, Nigerian Igbo man from Abia State? Anambra? Enugu? Regardless of where that name alone regardless of how you speak or comport yourself qualified as Black. Yet people called your Blackness into question...
I do not agree with what the lady said. But I agree with most Al the rest. This culture that people try to act so “gangsta” is cause Hollywood makes it look so enticing and great. Another reason is certain rap songs. It is making a culture of kids that has problems. Don’t get me wrong I like rap and listened to it growing up a lot, but sone of it is hurting our youth and others.
When your culture is gangs and guns, this is what you get. Its cool to be 'gangsta' and people will defend it to their literal death. Its one of the many things that hold society back.
It's an expectation among black culture to be certain ways and part of it was influenced through media and other things, but Joy characterizing the color white as if we all played a part in slavery, abuse, etc, (even though slavery, destroying other communities and people based off of ethnicity, tribe, etc, has been around since the fall of man) is just as wrong and racist as what she is trying to get across. Also I don't have to tell anyone with a brain this but none of us were alive and we need to learn but move on from the past both personally and as a people. Shady had the best point, it's how Ja grew up. How the culture around him was. How his parents raised him. He was given more opportunities to learn, grow, be loved, and ultimately succeed being in a two-parent household. He was probably ostracized from a lot of boys/men in his community because he valued things that weren't "cool" or "down with the culture" or just accepted. The friends and acceptance he has gained now seems like from people who encourage the "wanna be gangster" behavior we are now seeing and he feels most likely compelled to be this character he is playing to prove himself to the same people who denied him when he was a kid.
Very disappointed with Joy and Shady's takes here. They missed the point completely. His real name is Temetrius. He grew up in the burbs with both parents and now that he's a big shot he wants to act hood??? Something ain't right about this. Someone who really had to come up out of the mud will check him one of these days and it will be ugly. Someone in his circle needs to try to set him right before he ends up leaving his own child without a father..
Never go somewhere where you’re the richest man in the room! Finally Shady said something meaningful. If you’re richest man in the room you have the most to lose. If all athletes/stars thought like this they would get in a lot less trouble.
Acho that makes no sense in Jas case. Your peers are the reason you felt like that. ha Morants peers aren’t making him feel that way he just wants to project a certain image but it isn’t coming from the people he’s around the most
Don't go anywhere where you are the richest man in the room. Meaning don't go anywhere where you have the most to lose out of everybody in the room -Shady
Acho be trying to hard! Bruh! We don’t need sermons with every point. Also, you still need to qualify who you are as a human being. Ja Morant is playing stupid games and he’s paying some stupid taxes.
Everyone Wants To Play a Gangster Until That Movie Becomes Real Life and Consequences Come into The Script, Now The Tough Guy Wants To Apologize and Reflect Then Wants To Be a Better Person Not Because They're Sorry For They're Actions But Really Only Sorry That They Got Caught. If Your Old Enough To Wanna Be a Gangster Then Be Grown When The Turmoil Come With it. To Know Better is To Do Better, How You Wait Until You Get Rich and Famous Then Want To Play Tough Guy, Those The Games You Play When Your Broke
This is a teachable moment for Ja! It looks like an intervention has occurred. Hopefully he will have learned from this incident and make better choices. Let's not forget that he is a 23 year old man. There are going to be growing pains. Acho is a fool! Don't give credence to his BS take. They really need to give joy her own show!!!!!
It’s hard being a black man in America that’s for sure. You aren’t black enough to your own community if you don’t act a certain way and other races place so many stereotypes on you but at the end of the day, when you’re an adult you’re responsible for your own actions. Ja Morant doesn’t deserve a pass or any sympathy because he’s young and has a lot of money. He needs to mature and take responsibility for your own actions. These are lessons he should’ve learned when he was a child
Losing MILLIONS of dollars will never be culturally accepted, ask Kanye....They sit him down the rest of the season WITHOUT pay will open his eyes, better hope nike and powerade don't drop him..Being 23 is no excuse for all the things he's "allegedly" done, the incident in Indiana with the lazar should have slowed him down with all the negative attention he got, but nooooo he go on and do 3/4 different more dumb sh!t.....So since this not a one off sit him the rest of the season
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We ain’t went to school in no suburbs mane yal trippin 🤦🏽♂️💯
@@jbandjae3991 I know kids who whent to school in the suburbs and are way more hood them y'all spoon fed kids,Y'all live and grew up in the safest times in history,Goofy...
That’s the culture. The same people that’s giving Ja props for being gangsta are calling Micheal B Jordan corny for not being ignorant.
Preach
Most of y’all don’t even qualify to speak on the black experience, for 1 real street dudes know ja not “gangster” who tf uses that word, and 2 yes Michael b Jordan is a corny simp MONEY DONT UNLAME A LAME.
It’s hard being a black man in America that’s for sure. You aren’t black enough to your own community if you don’t act a certain way and other races place so many stereotypes on you but at the end of the day, when you’re an adult you’re responsible for your own actions. Ja Morant doesn’t deserve a pass or any sympathy because he’s young and has a lot of money. He needs to mature and take responsibility for his own actions. These are lessons he should’ve learned when he was a child
Shady said we were kids. Oh we gonna make mistakes. Well LeBron and Kobe. They came at a high school and they were young and they never cause trouble. What’s the difference in maturity it’s the dad. His dad can’t say nothing to him because he’s getting an allowance from ja. He just tells his dad to shut up.
Preach!!!!!! We are living in a Twisted World
So we just gone keep blaming his friends ? I didn’t see one of his friends hold a gun on camera. Every incident I hear about it’s Ja doing. We gotta stop thinking that people that hang around celebrities are the ones making them do bad things when in reality some celebrities including athletes are just bad people, being talented doesn’t mean you can’t be a bad human being
Exactly, we choose.who we become as adults.
Ayy yo facts I didn't see anybody else holding a gun😂💀💀
The INFLUENCE of his friends
but not one of his boyz partying with him that night told him naw dog don't go live with a gun. and whomever the gun was registered to? they are going to have to account for that. and if it's Ja? traveling with a gun on official team business and to another state - not knowing what their gun laws are? he's in more trouble than shaking that little bitty gun on IG live. dude is done. mark my words.
I don’t see any of those so called friends saying put that gun down and I am assuming one of those friends are filming and the rest are co signing. The problem is he probably has a bunch of people living off him and telling him everything he wants to hear.
When you realize Ja can’t even hold a gun properly all this comes into focus.
Edit: I wish I was one of Joys bad decisions in her 20s 😅
The edit line is no 🧢 bro cause I’m hella wit u on that 1😂😂
edit is so real 😂
That last line is real. Not just Joy but honestly I've known some women when they have matured and how they've changed etc and I can't help but wish I was one of their past mistakes etc. Especially if present day you have slim to no chance with them.
No lies detected 😂
So you wish you were a pair of implants?
Can we stop making excuses for Ja, he's choosing this life
Facts !!!!!
F'd up to say, but that is real spill right there!
He is choosing it but they are speaking as to why? That’s not an excuse it’s just fact!
She is on point
@@Shalekaknowssports No it's not,His friends didn't beat up a 16 year old he did,His mom called him when she argued with an employee at a show store in the mall not his friends,His real name ain't even Ja it's Trevarious,He use to go to a private school with kids who's parents were politicians are u dumb?He chose to act tuff,He grew up rocking a pink high top fade church shoes and Khaki shorts but it's not his fault,Black people are never accountable
I'm curious why the other young players aren't doing the things that Ja are doing since everyone wanna baby him
Miles bridges? The college kid getting patted down after a girl lost her life? Gilbert arenas? & how do u know they not doing it exactly?? u dont
@@princecheck11 ik bc it's not being reported on. Literally it's thousands of players in the NBA
Everyone learns at their own paces. Some lessons learned are just heavier than others at times.
@@soulreaperfred just bc its not being reported doesnt mean it isn’t happening & i gave examples so lol
@Prince Check you gave example of a college player and an old player like Gilbert arenas... where are ja peers in the NBA doing this foolishness
What kind of bad choices Joy made in her early 20s ? I want to hear that .
I was thinking that myself. Maybe a few 🚂 🚂 got ran on my girl.
@@chrismoneystl Lol lol
For sure she did hahah.
@@chrismoneystl that comment 👆😂😂
I just hope the NBA will hold Ja Morant as accountable as they did to Kyrie Irving..
He’s getting the same treatment for sure my guy
Nope
Definitely not. Amazon books are more dangerous than guns! It’s 2023 man!
@@kambuibomani231 in a sane world the treatment should be more harsh for Ja than Kyries. Kyrie didn't wave a gun around or have homies pointing lasers at people. Dude had opinions that hurt people's feelings. That's about it🤷
@@kambuibomani231 yup
Lord all these former athletes love saying it’s not easy getting millions of dollars at that young age of 22 and navigating life. The rest of us have to adhere to those same rules while struggling to make ends meet. Nobody is asking athletes to be saints or be perfect
It's like winning the lottery. Most lottery winners lose it all within 5 years or 10 years even if they don't plan on going on huge spending sprees. Getting huge sums of money doesn't suddenly develop good financial habits. Most NBA players figure it out as, unlike with winning the lottery, they can keep getting large sums of money over the years and have time to develop good financial habits and/or hire people with good financial habits. They're also young and dumb. Ja is like 23 years old. Being a public figure also puts a lot of pressure on top of everything else which can lead to bad decisions.
To be honest people are going to make mistakes weather you’re rich or broke, more money doesn’t fix bad spending habits, it doesn’t fix drug addiction or attitudes. It only makes it worse. You have to be good from the start.
@@-13eNnY- Funny how Ja Morant came from a more stable home than LeBron James. Nobody brings that up though
@@-13eNnY- And LbJ came into the league at 18. So I'm not trying hear "well he's 23" nah
@@travisitio Ja isn't LeBron.
Shady keeps saying Ja grew up in the hood.......he didn't. He grew up in a healthy middle class family. Big difference than growing up in the hood. Ja is essentially pretending he is from the streets for clout, that's what Shady is missing. Hopefully Ja gets right. He's a treat to watch on the court.
Well, look at today's hip hop artist. Many of these guys are not from the hood and never grew up in the hood but they pretend because it sells records to be "hood or gangster". Many of these young artist of today are not the same as the guys from the 80's or 90's who actually came from the hood.
It doesn’t matter if you grow up from the streets or the hood! I can promise you the middle class is one pay check from being poor! That’s the terrible mentality we have as people! The money and fame this guy has now isn’t comparable to where he came from so he has to adjust! I think it’s ridiculous that’s people want to punish Ja so much because of his brashness they are basically starting to treat and talk about him as if he isn’t human! Understand that the same measure y’all judge him is the same measure you will be judged! Keep that in mind when your turn hits! Everyone makes bad decisions no matter how old we are!
It doesn’t matter where he grew up, he broke the law and could be punished severely! Everyone acting like if he was from a bad environment it would be ok, people come from bad environments all the time but don’t break the law. He’s mentally immature and I hope Iverson reaches out to him if he hasn’t already
I am not sure how he grew up but I wasn’t there but he doesn’t need any hood clout. His game and how he plays it is enough
I’ve never heard so many excuses be made for one person in my life 😂. This is crazy
i heard one that he is healing
They're having a bigger conversation than just ja. It's a multi layered convo man
Someone doesn't understand the difference in excuses vs reasons. If you're not here for the conversation, then I'm not sure why you'd watch the video.
@@moonbiter3230 because I can 🤡😂
@@charleswayne8595 That was absolutely mindless and pathetic coming from an adult. Can’t believe I heard the coach say that.
I would of been happy to be one of Joy's "bad choices" during her 20s 😄
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13:28 Lol I’m a “Jordan is the obvious Goat” guy, but the pressure on Ja Morant is newborn baby’s gameplay compared to the pressure, money, and fame that was thrown at LeBron James and LeBron James was much younger than Ja Fool Morant.
"Never go somewhere where you have the most to lose." - Shady
Yeah that was an excellent point by Shady McCoy
That line hit hard
And where you've got the most chips to play with!
Ja acting like this because of slavery and white supremacy, I'm sorry, what???
It's called historical and intergenerational trauma.
@@michaelweaver7500 excuses.we need to move on from excuses from 160 years ago. It helps no one
@@michaelweaver7500 What percentage of the league is black and doesn't have this trauma?
Joy lost me on that one.. rare L take blaming slavery I MEAN CMON 🤡
Lol she didn’t blame slavery.. you missed it
I just can't help but to think how great this segment would've been between MW and ancho
There goes Emmanuel, making every story about him again... LOL
They all literally made it about themselves. Are you doing alright?
unless they actually know Ja who else are they supposed to relate it to?
@@boricuafrican1 nah nah E always does this
@@MeBihhhh E is known for it FAX
@@clu-godson-rpg doesn't Shady too?
" I'm not speaking about black
skin color, I'm speaking about
Black; the culture. "
Emmanuel Acho
That was an ignorant statement.
@@jacquelinestokes7707 Not it wasn't ... if you have lived it, you know exactly what he means
Black mainstream culture. You know there’s black ppl out there saying uh uh don’t lump them in with us
@@jacquelinestokes7707 What's ignorant
is Black people that capitalize Caucasian, Hispanic, Jewish, and Asian,
but in writing of themselves they ascribe
lowercasing and objectify themselves
as if....
speaking about a car.
I'm a Black man, driving a black car;
not a black man, driving a black car.
The former is correct, the latter is
ignorant.
"Only in America could you find a way to earn a healthy buck, and still keep your attitude on self-destruct" ~ MF Doom 🎶🎙️
Ja doing the most but I'm always here for Joy 😏
tf was joy's take lol
She blamed black culture on white supremacy???? Wtf lmao
Man I could DO with some of that "hardness" of being a young, mult millionaire, much successful and beloved athlete! It's soooooooo haaardddd🥺
Acho saying 'we have to play a certain character' is funny AF. Not all of us play a character...some of us are genuine my guy. Crazy notion right? 😂
u clearly didnt understand what he meant
Every one plays a character. Once ur alive , u missed the point
Obviously his point went over your head
Genuinely what? The “what” is what he’s getting at.
And u ain’t black so that’s why u don’t understand
Ja wags a gun on IG and these people are blaming slavery lol. Bit of a reach there. He's a young rich kid, who's likely immature and surrounded by the wrong people. We don't need to go back to slavery to see that. This show isn't going to last much longer.
My big problem is they using his age as a crutch….there been a lot of 23 superstars in the NBA that has not or is not doing what Ja is doing….Ja new to look at what he has to lose and call ppl like AI or Gilbert Arenas…. Don’t learn from ur mistakes learn from others so u don’t make them
Mistakes vs Choices... He's making choices!!! Here's a thought Skip n Shannon made a point perhaps he is really more of gangster than we think and if so Why would you get out you would want to get back in that chaos..
He made 1 mistake let it go
@@rollinstonemoula9689 he has made more than two. The laser pointer at stadium that he pointed at another team security personnel, bringing a gun on a road-trip to Denver and filming and putting the gun video on the web.
why does it have to be a color issue? why cant it just be "hes a man who is on the wrong path?" this is the problem
Honestly thought Joy was gonna relate it to her being light skin black and how ppl tried to be dismissive of her blackness
She can. Being biracial, she can relate 2 fold. Her and her brother (NFL Hall Of Famer) Jason Taylor both dealt with it. Not "Black enough" for some and "Not White enough" for others. That's their reality. In Ja's case, Shady can relate best having lived through it. Acho, as a Nigerian-American, had a different experience. Speaking my experience and what I've seen, some Nigerian-Americans view Black Americans as inferior even through I am as intelligent, cultured, and can assimilate and speak in many social situations. I guess living in the same state as Ja, I saw the rough side of life as a child. However, I also saw the slow and steady economic rise of my family through my parents hard work. I attended both public and private schools. I've seen examples of all 3 of these hosts life experiences.
Not trying to hear Acho talk about blackness or culture when he was ducking that conversation with Van Lathan.
Exactly what I was thinking the same thing.
Acho is the biggest clown
It's funny when the woke eat each other
Joy, your way off on your monologue. You're really going to blame slavery for a generationally wealthy NBA player waving a gun around in an Instagram video? If he grows up and stops doing stupid stuff he will be worth a billion dollars before he's done.
From my experience kids with both parents, very religious family's etc, parents who are very strict. Those kids be the ones who act out the most, especially when they are around kids who are less fortunate. It's like they do have to try to qualify themselves and it never ends up good. Truth be told you can't save everyone. When the light shines the brightest it shows you who you really are deep within. Ja is definitely walking the wrong path and the world is watching and that itself can drive a young man over the edge.
Big facts I agree
Mmm… I agree with you about sone kids from homes like that. But most turn out to be good people in society that has had a good home, religious and strict to a “certain degree” growing up, but I hear you cause I’ve seen exactly what you said as well!
Right exactly he has to prove his blackness
@@davidbaggs2273 correct David I agree let’s put a percentage on it that turn out bad like Ja versus the ones that are good citizens in society and don’t cause trouble
Oh man I can’t even start to do that bro
I’m just saying I’ve seen kids turn out both ways. I’ve raided 4 and thank God they all turned out fantastic. But I seen good parents have kids go a little off the rails.
I’m not faulting Ja. I’ve done the exact same thing. Not on instagram.
But the same thing and worse.
But bro has a high standard he has to hit if he wants the bank roll coming to him. He got to grow up quick. I think JA just got sone of the wrong people around him. I think he will make it ok. I hope 🤞
why do people blame his friends? he is over 18 years of age
Low iq, avg 85 in da communitaay
Unc said it best… Ja hustling backwards 💀
Really it's white supremacy that's making ja feels he needs to act this way? To act more gangster? More black? She really said that.
What's the difference between a young person working in a factory and a young sports star? Are they not the same in years? Why then does someone that messes up but is not celebrated not given the same excuse based on age. Do the millions of dollar serve to judge someone differently? I hope that's not the case. JM should be held to the same standards as any young man. Please let's stop the BS and let's stop giving these punks a free ride. I was waiting for Joy to tell us she too use to carry a firearm in the hood. I see two men who because of their abilities led a very pamper life.
Bro is about to fumble the biggest bag
What's crazy is that everyone is making excuses for his bad behavior. Jason Tatum is the same age, and he doesn't act like that, and he's also raising his son.
Were all not tha same.. Stop putting every black person n tha same boat..
Nike don’t wanna drop him because they got all that merch printed up 😂
Joy could make an episode where all she talks about are the "mistakes" she's made in her youth and it would probably get more views than the highest viewed video for Speak,
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she should just talk about what she knows best:slavery and chocolates
@@edwardbmurphy6378, 🤡🤡🤡🤫
Good segment, but Acho has already separated himself from urban Black culture so his conversation is disingenuous. That said, what Ja is doing is flat ridiculous and hustling backwards by any measure. Blackness is about navigating with intelligence and awareness…he is doing neither.
3:57 Wait, wait, wait. So which one of his homies hog-tied Ja, forced him to go on a livestream, grabbed his hand, placed a female-level/female-sized blicky in his hand, and forced him to raise the strap in the view of the phone-camera’s lens? 🤷♂️
u clearly aint listen fr or u never had friends in ur life
@@princecheck11 I have plenty and they can't make influence me to do nothing idiotic
@@princecheck11 When your friends are physically forcing you to do things, then either you’re very slow or you don’t know what free-will is.
Who said he was forced ?
@@quentinsowell3704 did peer pressure stop being a thing when you were born ? Actual peer pressure or perceived peer pressure are both real things.
It’s not that serious, everyone knows right and wrong. You F up, you pay the consequences it’s that simple.
Wtf is Acho talking about everybody from the hood wanna make it out nobody wants Ja to be tough
Facts!! He’s talking like that because he got called out a few weeeks ago for his Bs. This is more of a case of a person that didn’t grow up in a certain life glorifying it.
everyone from the hood wants to make it out? nah...
Well spoken Shady. Ja will come around....just gotta take a few lumps
Is joy an oppressed black woman??
Shady never disappoints with the super surface takes
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You're right he should have blamed this one on slavery like Joy did.
How was that surface level? Do you even know what that means lol
Brains like urs , get in the way of common sense.
@@is0sceles 🤣🤣🤣🤣
bring back Marcellus Wiley.
It's the reason most young successful men leave the neighborhood they grew up in cause you're going to be tested and it's hard from my experience but I was broke with nothing to lose so I went all in.
It's a major cultural problem. 🧐 Why is it uncool to be smart and talk intelligently 🤓 ?? Why is it cool to carry guns and have big gold teeth. It's cultural acceptance
Shady had the best take by far on this segment because it hit him close to home. Sucks Ja had to learn the hard way but hopefully he does for the better
No he didn’t. Shaft made some great points but wasn’t the best take. He’s speaking from a place of “I wish someone had excused my behavior” instead of “I wished someone had pulled me aside” first.
Shady making excuses….. he always very athlete friendly and as a athlete I get it! But Ja ain’t running the streets with a bunch of “hood dudes” he grew up with cause he ain’t grow up that way…… he let the hard streets of Memphis get to his head Nd he tryna fit in
It’s hard being a black man in America that’s for sure. You aren’t black enough to your own community if you don’t act a certain way and other races place so many stereotypes on you but at the end of the day, when you’re an adult you’re responsible for your own actions. Ja Morant doesn’t deserve a pass or any sympathy because he’s young and has a lot of money. He needs to mature and take responsibility for your own actions. These are lessons he should’ve learned when he was a child
Shady trill ASF... That's why he hit the nail on the head like that. High IQ!
Shady was Straight goofy on this subject
Ja morant is only 23. At 23 I’m sure we all was still doing dumb things the only difference is he’s a millionaire and a celebrity so it’s magnified. Hopefully this is the situation that makes him learn and mature from it.
She lost everyone when she brought up the white supremacist bs smdh
Not everyone
how
@@rollandcurtis874 *except
Well everyone except Black-Americans were lost when Joy Taylor brought up the white supremacy reality and historicity. 🤷♂️
@@rollandcurtis874 nah, we’re not lost to what what she said. She said the absolute truth.
Audio is working for me
This is a bunch of excuses 😂
Acho is a Nigerian. He really needs to shut up about FBA culture?
Man wtf is joy talking about nobody ever said you less black cause you got 2 parents in the household
I don't know what yall are talking about when yall said shady gave the best take. Please explain. All i hear is excuses. This isn't just one mistake. This man had a list of allegations piling on him all week and then to go on IG and try and flex is just being completely tone deaf. As a black man I'm tired of hearing the excuse, "it's hard to be young, black, and successful." What do you mean? He's got the blueprint of great players in the league to look up to. He's trying so hard to be something he's not. I'm not even against guns, but when you start trying to flex with it and throw up gang signs you're inviting trouble, not just carrying for protection. On a side note that's why the NBA has heavy security so you don't have to. This man has a daughter, crazy endorsements, and 200 million, but you'd rather be NBA youngboy.
All these dudes that grew up in the hood (Stephen Jackson, Jalen rose, paul pierce) act like they're the only one that allowed to speak on Ja Morants situation like they're gatekeepers. "He made a mistake and apologized." I don't care about none of that. After all that been put out with the pacers, the 17yr old, the mall security. That's not simple mistakes. Zion is in new Orleans and he ain't letting his city influence him, Trae isn't letting ATL influence him. All these ex nba hood players did come from that lifestyle while Ja didn't. He trying to pursue that life. Dude is old enough to know right from wrong.
"This guy's a gangster? His real name's Clarence
And Clarence lives at home with both parents
And Clarence's parents have a real good marriage". Ja Morant is a real life Clarence😂💀💀
Oh god, can one show make it about Ja Morant and not make it about themselves! “I’ve been through a similar situation”, “I am Ja Morant”, “I’ve been in his shoes”, “I know what he’s going through”. Just shut the eff up and talk about what he is going through.
Having 2 parents who are working/educated should be NORMAL...not an anomaly
I'm sorry, I don't get the connection from some in the black community telling other blacks they are oreos and not black enough to white supremacy and slavery. Please someone explain how that's connected.
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Can’t blame this on “The people around him”. It’s lazy. He is a fully grown and competent adult. He should already know what he was doing was risky. At least he didn’t hurt anyone or himself. This is why you have parents to help you navigate these issues during your maturation as an adult.
please go listen to Marcellus wily on why ppl says that about Acho he is from Africa and didn't have to grow up the same as American black ppl go through.
for what ?
@@princecheck11 I think I explain it in the post did you stop reading at listen to wily
The number one issue in the black community is a lack of accountability. It shows with Ja. It’s always someone else’s fault instead of taking ownership.
Everyone have a knife in the kitchen, but will anyone stupid enough holding knife in a public place while interacting ? Even if one have no bad intentions, the negative message is clear.
So yeah, it's immature and dumb.
Emmanuel Acho, Acho, Nigerian Igbo man from Abia State? Anambra? Enugu? Regardless of where that name alone regardless of how you speak or comport yourself qualified as Black. Yet people called your Blackness into question...
I do not agree with what the lady said. But I agree with most Al the rest.
This culture that people try to act so “gangsta” is cause Hollywood makes it look so enticing and great. Another reason is certain rap songs. It is making a culture of kids that has problems.
Don’t get me wrong I like rap and listened to it growing up a lot, but sone of it is hurting our youth and others.
Just excuses. Lebron is from the projects and never acted like this.
When your culture is gangs and guns, this is what you get. Its cool to be 'gangsta' and people will defend it to their literal death. Its one of the many things that hold society back.
Acho should teach one of those nonsensical bs college courses….
What is joi talking about fears? Fearssss? Like really? Lol
Was about to ask where Dave at but I know why he isn’t here 😂
They can talk about a white person that messed up but Dave can't talk about a black person messing up
Shouldnt have anything to do with race. Its all the culture. Nobody should want to be a part of it
strong discussion , great perspectives from Joy and Shady as usual. pretty surprised. acho wasn’t too bad on this one either, keep it coming SFY
Play stupid games win stupid prizes 🤷♂️😂
this woman is really blaming white people for this man’s actions mind blowing af
Ja is being extorted by real gang members. Ive seen rappers and athletes act like this before trying to prove themselves.
It's an expectation among black culture to be certain ways and part of it was influenced through media and other things, but Joy characterizing the color white as if we all played a part in slavery, abuse, etc, (even though slavery, destroying other communities and people based off of ethnicity, tribe, etc, has been around since the fall of man) is just as wrong and racist as what she is trying to get across. Also I don't have to tell anyone with a brain this but none of us were alive and we need to learn but move on from the past both personally and as a people.
Shady had the best point, it's how Ja grew up. How the culture around him was. How his parents raised him. He was given more opportunities to learn, grow, be loved, and ultimately succeed being in a two-parent household. He was probably ostracized from a lot of boys/men in his community because he valued things that weren't "cool" or "down with the culture" or just accepted. The friends and acceptance he has gained now seems like from people who encourage the "wanna be gangster" behavior we are now seeing and he feels most likely compelled to be this character he is playing to prove himself to the same people who denied him when he was a kid.
McCoy coming in with excuses
Glad I watched that till the end, shady said “never go somewhere where your the richest man in the room”
Very disappointed with Joy and Shady's takes here. They missed the point completely. His real name is Temetrius. He grew up in the burbs with both parents and now that he's a big shot he wants to act hood??? Something ain't right about this. Someone who really had to come up out of the mud will check him one of these days and it will be ugly. Someone in his circle needs to try to set him right before he ends up leaving his own child without a father..
He brought a gun on a plane. That’s a federal crime
No he didnt
Never go somewhere where you’re the richest man in the room! Finally Shady said something meaningful. If you’re richest man in the room you have the most to lose. If all athletes/stars thought like this they would get in a lot less trouble.
Its not Ja’s friends….. its JA MORANT making poor decisions. Stop blaming his friends
Juice Myster While I agree Ja is responsible for his actions, a person can be influenced by the people he hangs with.
Why is it bad to hold a gun? Not sure what the fuss is about…
“ that’s the culture “ - Kendrick Lamar
I can hear the video with no problem.
In other words, his return is hinging on what they perceive to be the public’s perception of him returning.
Shady was goofy on this subject
Joy blaming this on slavery is a reach
Acho that makes no sense in Jas case. Your peers are the reason you felt like that. ha Morants peers aren’t making him feel that way he just wants to project a certain image but it isn’t coming from the people he’s around the most
You’ve spoken to his peers or the people around him before ?
Dominique Lane And you know this how? Cause you are speaking like you have first hand knowledge of what's going on in Ja's circle.
I wonder if Murray State should've prepped him to be a better student-athlete
Never go anywhere where you are the richest man in the room. Never go anywhere where you have the most to lose. That was a bar Shady!
G SHYT. Iykyk
Don't go anywhere where you are the richest man in the room. Meaning don't go anywhere where you have the most to lose out of everybody in the room -Shady
Acho be trying to hard! Bruh! We don’t need sermons with every point. Also, you still need to qualify who you are as a human being. Ja Morant is playing stupid games and he’s paying some stupid taxes.
Everyone Wants To Play a Gangster Until That Movie Becomes Real Life and Consequences Come into The Script, Now The Tough Guy Wants To Apologize and Reflect Then Wants To Be a Better Person Not Because They're Sorry For They're Actions But Really Only Sorry That They Got Caught. If Your Old Enough To Wanna Be a Gangster Then Be Grown When The Turmoil Come With it. To Know Better is To Do Better, How You Wait Until You Get Rich and Famous Then Want To Play Tough Guy, Those The Games You Play When Your Broke
This is a teachable moment for Ja! It looks like an intervention has occurred. Hopefully he will have learned from this incident and make better choices. Let's not forget that he is a 23 year old man. There are going to be growing pains. Acho is a fool! Don't give credence to his BS take. They really need to give joy her own show!!!!!
It’s hard being a black man in America that’s for sure. You aren’t black enough to your own community if you don’t act a certain way and other races place so many stereotypes on you but at the end of the day, when you’re an adult you’re responsible for your own actions. Ja Morant doesn’t deserve a pass or any sympathy because he’s young and has a lot of money. He needs to mature and take responsibility for your own actions. These are lessons he should’ve learned when he was a child
LeBron didn’t have these growing pains, neither did Steph, Klay, Giannis, and I can go on. Ja is just too low IQ to understand the world around him.
The realest episode since Marcellus left. Good job Acho hope more to come 👌🏾
Losing MILLIONS of dollars will never be culturally accepted, ask Kanye....They sit him down the rest of the season WITHOUT pay will open his eyes, better hope nike and powerade don't drop him..Being 23 is no excuse for all the things he's "allegedly" done, the incident in Indiana with the lazar should have slowed him down with all the negative attention he got, but nooooo he go on and do 3/4 different more dumb sh!t.....So since this not a one off sit him the rest of the season