Shanle: Majority of Saints fans aren't really giving Derek Carr a fair chance

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  • Former New Orleans Saints and Super Bowl champion linebacker Scott Shanle joins Bobby Hebert on WWL Radio to break down some of his thoughts on the offense and quarterback Derek Carr, who he sees as not really being given a chance my the majority of Saints fans.
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  • @philipnewell1858
    @philipnewell1858 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Tell me which qb can win more than 9 games behind this line, and with Pete Carmichael calling the plays?

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      10 years later and the same old Carr excuses continue like I said they would! Man In love being right! 💯 😆😆😆👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @danielbenjamin3084
      @danielbenjamin3084 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@goldenking562LBCyou’re absolutely right

  • @ocnlltgic
    @ocnlltgic หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Drew spoke my language and epitomized my philosophy: "Not Everyone Gets To Be Me". I am a Poker King (Retired). Look at the RB production that Drew enjoyed. Name those RBs off... I'll start with Duece and then Reggie and then Sproles and gadget guys like Lance Moore-- and then PT and then AK41 and Ingram... even Murray... we ran the ball. There's more to the play-action game than going downfield. We need to get the safeties with their backs turned to the QB and we can win with AK41 ALL DAY on those underneath passes. I'll take AK41 against a DB all day. My odds on that are 85/15.

  • @christopherfava2529
    @christopherfava2529 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    It was alot on the o line last year ,the o line sucked ,the playcalling sucked ,pete Carmichael is 🗑️ trash

    • @ajarreaux
      @ajarreaux หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This was the same situation the year before with all the other quarterbacks but everyone seems to overlook that. Not saying Winston is a great QB but he never go his fair shot.

    • @jeffcobb4361
      @jeffcobb4361 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How can a Quarter Back be truly rated with out an outstanding OC.

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      10 years later and the same old Carr excuses continue like I said they would! 💯 😆😆😆👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jeffcobb436110 years later and according to you bitter Carr groupies in disguise it's still everyone's fault but Carr's! 💯 Smh😆😆😆

  • @NickBauersfeld
    @NickBauersfeld 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Tom Brady and Stafford won a SB in their first year with new teams and people forgot that it’s not normal for a brand new veteran QB in a whole new organization takes time to flourish. They finished 9-8 but he was 4-1 to finish his season with elite QB play. The Version of this team you saw at the end is more likely the one you’ll see to start the beginning of the next season.

  • @Blaquebeautifulqueen225
    @Blaquebeautifulqueen225 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Being a saints fan for 34 years I said the same thing some us never gave him a chance when the OC was horrible and the OL was horrible and he was hurt he still wasn’t that bad

  • @bennicommas6349
    @bennicommas6349 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    But they were quiet about Winston

    • @outrunna
      @outrunna หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly but we should with carr.

    • @g00dluck_chuck_
      @g00dluck_chuck_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not a word was said. Jamies didnt nearly get this much understanding. He got to ride the pine and we got the red rifle for the rest of the season

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@g00dluck_chuck_ I was constantly saying he should’ve been back starting when he was healthy.

  • @g00dluck_chuck_
    @g00dluck_chuck_ หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yall so damn worried about Carr? Get him an Oline that can protect him.

    • @dabking3611
      @dabking3611 หลายเดือนก่อน

      RAIDERS gave CARRBAGE THE HIGHEST PAID OLINE TOP RUNNING BACK AND THE BEST WIDE RECEIVERS ADAMS AND HE STILL COULDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS 🤗 BUT ALL CARRBAGE FAN BOY'S WAS SAYING CARRBAGE JUST NEEDS A DEFENSE 🤡 NOW ITS THE OLINE FAULT 🤡

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน

      You bitter Carr groupies in disguise have been using that same old excuse for 10 years now! 💯 Smh😆😆😆

    • @BrendaSharp-ce8cz
      @BrendaSharp-ce8cz 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ask drew breeze. If one second can make a difference on a pass play I dare you

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BrendaSharp-ce8cz Yeah that excuse isn't going to work after 10 years! 💯 Smh😆😆😆

  • @realist8967
    @realist8967 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We will not bring up our base opinion on why a large segment like Rattler, but it was the same when we had Winston. That being said, Carr is the 4th rated SAINTS play caller, a top 10 QB in the league, and basically is used to the culture. It's up to Kubiak to get his offensive philosophy in place. The ability of the NEW O-LINE to protect will be 75% of our ability to stretch the field.

  • @tswagg504
    @tswagg504 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it’s because Dennis Allen wanted him so bad, and right now, there are some Saints fans who don’t trust Dennis Allen’s decision making. We’ll see how this year turns out. There have been coaches in the past that have turned their win percentage around.

  • @trentrez6643
    @trentrez6643 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Absolutely correct

  • @mitchellmilano3789
    @mitchellmilano3789 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wanna see people try an discredit what Scott said he’s speaking facts 🤣💯

    • @jahsoul357
      @jahsoul357 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For me, it's less about discrediting and understanding that a lot of the media were hypocritical in the sense that "patience" wasn't preached no other season after Drew. Carr killed it at the end of the season; sadly he sucked most of it. Just hope he uses that momentum we saw him finish out with.

    • @mitchellmilano3789
      @mitchellmilano3789 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jahsoul357 I don’t think I fully understand what your trynna say can you elaborate more to me Tbh Fans have been impatient ever since Drew left for some reason no one understands that are Super Bowl Window Retired with him and we should be focusing on what we’re doing now which is trynna build a competing roster while Recovering from the setback they had with The pandemic Carr is a good quarterback that allows you to rebuild competitively

    • @jahsoul357
      @jahsoul357 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mitchellmilano3789 What I'm saying is the media is now wanting us to have a level of understanding that they never preached since Drew retired. We had 2 QBs that finished with a combine 9-3 record with one of the worse supporting cast that we have seen in some time, yet I'm supposed to practice patience when a QB has had everything handed to him but yet given excuses that legitimately can be applied to every other QB since Drew has retired? The offensive line just didn't become bad with Carr; it has been in 2021. Coaching just didn't start being bad when Carr became a Saint. Our media just could no longer place the blame on the QBs since Carr was hyped up that entire offseason and was not good for most of the season. The run game just didn't become bad this season. It has been bad since we let Murray leave for Baltimore. I'm rooting for Carr and I hope the last 4 games of last season propels us, but I also keep the same energy across the board.

  • @mandalore41
    @mandalore41 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    😂 this is true, fair or not, but he just needs to win, even if he doesnt play particularly well, do that and the noise stops and fans will get behind him

  • @kendavis625
    @kendavis625 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They’re just mad because their boy Jameis could not cut the mustard

    • @outrunna
      @outrunna หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Funny carr never did squat with the raiders. 9 years in the nfl nothing but we should give him a fair chance. Dude is garbage

    • @kendavis625
      @kendavis625 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@outrunna . You mad bud? You can watch Jameis sit on the bench in Cleveland making ignorant comments and looking silly!

    • @outrunna
      @outrunna หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kendavis625 not mad yo boy carr will be gone soon🤣🤣.

    • @outrunna
      @outrunna หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kendavis625 not mad yo boy carr is just a stat queen. Had gruden & still wasnt crap. You must be a raiders fan used to mediocrity. poor u 🤣🤣

    • @jahsoul357
      @jahsoul357 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jameis has a 6-2 record when healthy. It's funny how we can speak to Carr's injuries but surprisingly silent when we see that Jameis played 2/3 games with a broken back and ruptured tendon. Having this attitude for one and not the other kinda makes one "hypocritical."

  • @coozkies8386
    @coozkies8386 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    25/8 68% and our fans act like he a bottom 5 qb its actually ridiculous 😂😂

    • @TruckerRo
      @TruckerRo หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's true too but we had a losing record 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @sneakerstalkerz3183
      @sneakerstalkerz3183 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TruckerRowe had a winning record 😅

    • @outrunna
      @outrunna หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      carr is just a garbage time stat queen

    • @_DaBears_
      @_DaBears_ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sneakerstalkerz3183 People just making stuff up now. Now 9-8 is a losing record.

    • @jahsoul357
      @jahsoul357 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So we are going to act like 12 of those TDs didn't come in the last 4 games? After 13 games, he was 13/7.
      He killed it the last 4 weeks but there is a reason why when it comes to metrics that account for each play, he is ranked like 17th in most of them.

  • @charleesummertv6109
    @charleesummertv6109 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We don't like how he got here. Our biggest issue is Dennis Allen and Mickey Loomis and how they played in Saints fans faces for two years with bull crap excuses.
    Derek Carr taking the brunt of it. We've loss fan favorites due to Dennis Allen, Pete Carmichael and Mickey Loomis.

  • @keithjacobs3388
    @keithjacobs3388 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Listen guys....going to take alot of heat for saying this. I have been trying not to say this word.....but, what went on with Thomas, and Winston, and others during last year....smelt alot like Sabotage!
    I mean...12 minutes left in the packers game....recivers not running the right routes, linemen blocking the wrong way! Almost they all missed pre season. Just looked and smelt like it was planned.

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stop making up nonsense bitter Carr groupie in disguise! 💯 Smh😆😆😆

  • @nuggdog5838
    @nuggdog5838 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think a lot of y’all are not giving Derek Car a fair shake at all if he had a better offensive line and maybe a few better receivers and people would actually catch the ball. He would be a great quarterback, but instead of all that y’all want somebody to play with broken ribs and being beat up every game and be a perfect quarterback, most people are dummies think that

    • @TruckerRo
      @TruckerRo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He's been in the league for ten years and been to the playoffs once🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️stop with the nonsense, he had that with the Raiders so now what's the excuse

    • @davidsellers3639
      @davidsellers3639 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A real TE would help too WHODATT.Yeah why aren’t they starting qb for the team they love so much

  • @raheim21
    @raheim21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Although i dont think Carr is the long term guy, i have to admit, since Brees retired we haven't given any of our QBs a fair chance with that O line. And no way should Pete Carmichael have been retained after DA's first season. Still very excited about our draft picks and Klint Kubiak. Gonna be a fun season. #whodat

  • @esqladespr07
    @esqladespr07 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He played hurt no one except him 2

    • @pbm8264
      @pbm8264 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep. His shoulder was hurt in the 3rd game of the season. He also had broken ribs later on. He said his shoulder never was right during the season and still hurting after and didn’t throw again until March.
      Carr is as tough as nails. Can Jordan said that Carr was a beast for playing hurt. I remember for the Raiders she dislocated his ring finger of his throwing hand on third down and he didn’t miss a play. They reset his finger on the sideline and he played the rest of the game with a glove on his hand, even throwing a game winning TD with 2 minutes left to win the ball game.
      It’s time Saints fans stop with their ridiculous criticism of him and learn about their QB, because he is going nowhere. He’s your QB u til he retires in his 40’s.
      Its would be nice for y’all to know that he wears that left arm sleeve during the games in honor of Koby Bryant. He was good friends with Koby, and he admired his mamba mentality. Also when he was young, he said he used to always dream of having the ball in his hands on game winning drives. He leads the league in game winning drives and best record in OT among active QB’s.
      He is also a Christian guy, like Brees. He’s a great guy and everyone that’s ever played with him loves him except for the cancer MT.

  • @g00dluck_chuck_
    @g00dluck_chuck_ หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Jamies didnt nearly get this much understanding. He just got to ride the pine and the fans got the red rifle for the rest of the season

  • @raidertenzi4109
    @raidertenzi4109 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    stop talking about Jameis in the comments.... im sorry, Jameis is a great team guy and is great for the team but he is also a walking interception. Derek Carr was third in TD/INT ration this season at 25/8. thats really really good.... Dc was also injured and made sure he did everything in his power to be on the field with the guys, you have to respect that man. some of yall are too disrespectful and always want to criticize but not give credit when its due. Derek Carr can win a Sb if you could protect him.

  • @randallross420
    @randallross420 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You just have to accept that he's a super medium qb who will lead you to 9-8 or 8-9 every year. Paired up with Dennis Allen and that fate is inevitable. He's not bad and I don't hate him, he's right at the Dalton line.

  • @therazor4862
    @therazor4862 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I got to say as a new comer to the Saints community, as a long time Raider fan who has watched Carr his entire career; I am disappointed in Saints fans. Carr did not deserve the hate. 3 broken ribs, 2 concussions, 2 shoulder injuries, and still had a better QB rating than Josh Allen and P. Mahomes, and right there with L. Jackson. Add to that the universal admission that the play calling sucked with an out dated offensive scheme. Do the effing math. Oh blame Carr. Yeah right.

    • @outrunna
      @outrunna หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      dude go back to your crap organization raiders yall settle for less over there we expect more over here. carr played with the same oline as brees & did less.

    • @_DaBears_
      @_DaBears_ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@outrunna You keep saying they had the same O line. It's 3 years apart bud. With different players. Same coach though, I will give you that.

    • @outrunna
      @outrunna หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@_DaBears_ ruiz, hurst, mccoy, ram, all except one was there wen brees was here. Carr held the ball too long. Blamed wide receivers for all his mistakes

    • @_DaBears_
      @_DaBears_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@outrunna 2020 O line with snap count percentage - Peat 71%, McCoy 99%, Ruiz 69%, Ramczyk 96%, Armstead 80%, Clapp 6%.
      2023 O line with snap count percentage - Peat 70%, McCoy 99%, Ruiz 84 %, Ramczyk 68%, Penning 36%, Garcia 28%, Young 18%, Erving 18%, Saldiveri 2%
      Also, try looking up O line rankings. 2020 was way better than the O line in 2023.
      Different O lines, 3 years apart. Stop saying they had the same O lines. They did not.

    • @_DaBears_
      @_DaBears_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@outrunna 2020 Saints O line with snap percentage - McCoy 99%, Ramczyk 96%, Armstead 80%, Ruiz 69%, Peat 71%, Clapp 6%
      2023 Saints O line with snap percentage - McCoy 99%, Ramczyk 68%, Ruiz 91%, Peat 70%, Penning 36%, Garcia 28%, Young 18%, Erving 18%, Saldiveri 2%
      DIfferent players and 3 years apart. Not the same O line. Stop saying it they had the same O line. It's not true.
      Also look at the rankings for 2020 and 2023. We had a good O line in 2020, a bad one in 2023. It was good in 2020 and struggled most of the year in 2023. If you had watched the games you would have had to have known this. You are being disingenuous or didn't watch the games.

  • @jamesgreen4563
    @jamesgreen4563 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bobby...so against some of the worst teams Carr put up some empty stats. You mentioned that with him the Saints would win the NFC South. .Why are you making all these excuses & what ifs? He is an average QB at best. But I'm sure you will find a way to spin it.

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s not spinning anything, it’s pointing out reality over the final five games. The spin/qualifiers is coming from the end that’s choosing to ignore anything that goes against a predetermined view. It takes a heck of a lot of spin game to talk about a 9-win season like it was a 4/5-win season.

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@WWLsportsStop the cap! You know the truth about that bum but you won't say it because you want likes and subscribers! I'm a real Raiders fan and watched that bum closely for 9 years straight! I challenge you to a Carr discussion anywhere any time! I promise you that I will destroy you! 💯 😎

  • @ocnlltgic
    @ocnlltgic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imma shout out to my O-Line, Miller and Williams. I have no issue with AK41 and his ability to pound down the middle. But WHY? That's yall's job. AK41 in space is how we win... but we need you guys to make them respect the gut. You guys get going downhill and a defense can't afford to worry about the perimeter, they have to respect the gut. Sneaky me says do that and just wait until AK41 gets his good shot. AK41 turns what looked like a 6-7 yard gain into 50. The STAR on our offensive side of the team is AK41.

  • @RyanSingletary
    @RyanSingletary หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Winston was not the answer

    • @outrunna
      @outrunna หลายเดือนก่อน

      neither is carr

    • @_DaBears_
      @_DaBears_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's the question?

  • @jeffcobb4361
    @jeffcobb4361 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The QB gets most of the blame just for being there "who dat"

  • @ocnlltgic
    @ocnlltgic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Drew spoiled all of us. Drew had an uncanny ability to know where the defense was weak and he had it in his mind where he was going with the ball. He looked off the safeties as good as anyone I have ever seen. I play poker watching where everyone else doesn't wanna go. That's where I go. Drew was like a master poker man. We don't need Derek to do that. Just allow him to play his game. His game will greatly benefit with an average of 150YPG on the ground with a minimum of two rushing TDs per game.

  • @diddymoe6816
    @diddymoe6816 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Biggest problem we have as saints fans is too many black fans jumped on the bandwagon after the superbowl win

  • @RN4L13
    @RN4L13 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Carr is a 10yrs rookie veteran!!! Don't get your hopes up guys
    !!!! He will bring back The Aints!!!!😂

  • @ocnlltgic
    @ocnlltgic หลายเดือนก่อน

    I might neglect to mention the defense... but I see you... the defense is my security blanket... now run the ball, collect 3rd down conversions and allow DTCam and DDavis Preacher Man to sit on the bench ready to get on the field-- not off the field... beat them down with the run for three quarters and our LBers will be hanging around just going crazy wanting to get back out there... not outta there.

  • @ocnlltgic
    @ocnlltgic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Football requires a smart mind nowadays. Everyone out there is a top-notch athlete. Who wants it more and studies more? Who desires to WIN? Who wants to be the brain on the team? Those questions matter. Most of the time it's the team that makes the most mental errors that ends up losing the game.

    • @BrendaSharp-ce8cz
      @BrendaSharp-ce8cz 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      G. Are you talking about the green bay packer game. I think you are😅

  • @Insert.Name.Here.
    @Insert.Name.Here. หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Derek Carr is already the 4th best QB in Saints history. 💯

    • @TruckerRo
      @TruckerRo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Insert.Name.Here.
      @Insert.Name.Here. หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@TruckerRo only Brees, Herbert, and Manning are better. And Carr will move into 3rd after this season.

    • @TruckerRo
      @TruckerRo หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Insert.Name.Here.I'm hoping he does.. I want him to succeed and win, im just wondering how all of a sudden "fair chance" is a thing

    • @princekubakuba9682
      @princekubakuba9682 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Insert.Name.Here.Herbert was awful

    • @TruckerRo
      @TruckerRo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@princekubakuba9682 💀💀💀💀

  • @franciscopomar2942
    @franciscopomar2942 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nope fans are 100 percent sure he sucks not 50 50 the other 50 is his paid media blitz

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Paid media blitz” 😂😂😂

  • @CG89119
    @CG89119 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Derek carrs been getting a chance for 10 years. He's a nobody

    • @akeredun
      @akeredun หลายเดือนก่อน

      Highest paid Zombie. . . EVER.

  • @goldenking562LBC
    @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What you Carr apologists fail to understand is that Carr has been putting up great numbers towards the end of the season for 10 years now but if you watch closely you will realize that those stats are deceiving since they were achieved in garbage time! With that being said, Carr is the most overrated QB in NFL history! 💯

  • @Captaindc1214
    @Captaindc1214 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We gave him that fair chance last year and except for the last 4 games he was not even a top 20 qb in the nfl. So no we dont want to get our hopes up again because we know Carr is not the long term answer at Qb for the saints.

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Just saying that doesn’t make it true.

    • @RyanPrindall
      @RyanPrindall หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s a load of garbage

  • @franciscopomar2942
    @franciscopomar2942 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He couldn't stand in the pocket and complete a 7 Yard TD ..instead he threw a pick we lost that game..he cost us so many games

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’ve convinced me. Cut him. Fire everybody. It’s perfection at all times or start from scratch. No in between.

    • @franciscopomar2942
      @franciscopomar2942 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@WWLsports no fire Dennis Allen he is the blame for all of it...he's why Carr is here ....id bet my life on it..wasn't it Dennis drafted him.hes trying to prove the raiders wrong by stinking up the team...bringing in his crappy bad draft pick. Derek is Derek he can't help he's dumb...but Allen was even dumber by recruiting him here...I'm positive he whispered in Loomis ear that Carr is good...this will probably be Dennis Allen's last year as head coach

    • @franciscopomar2942
      @franciscopomar2942 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WWLsports and last thing I'm be quiet and not say 1 more negative anything til week 8. I'm sorry I just get overly disappointed and it cuts deep been watching the saints since 1979. Who Dat!!

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hear ya and I do get it. No worries. Thanks for commenting.

    • @akeredun
      @akeredun หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@franciscopomar2942 No one else wanted Carr. But Allen could only do what Mickey & Gale approved. Likewise what owner or GM with one braincell would let ANY O.C. call bonehead plays for 3 years? Follow the $$$

  • @moneymaud
    @moneymaud หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Carr had 9 different offensive coordinators in his 10 year career. Now it's going to be 10 in 11 years. Whoever is crapping on Carr and ecstatic over Klint Kubiak's hire needs to get their head checked because their blind hate for Carr is showing. I agree with Shanle. If the defense and Oline is solid this season, the Saints are winning the NFC south with ease. WhoDat!!!

  • @danielbenjamin3084
    @danielbenjamin3084 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Carr is garbage. So many o coordinators head coaches nothing has been good enough for this guy. Maybe with a top 5 defense top 3 oline top 2 receiver group top 1 running back best tight end.. he’ll win a playoff game

  • @tdsly6031
    @tdsly6031 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The Saints fanbase has treated DC4 absolutely horrible I can't believe the amount of morons that won't Spencer rattler to start this season

    • @pbm8264
      @pbm8264 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yep. They are so silly. They say Spencer has a strong arm and a quick release. Well duh! Carr has an even stronger arm and a quicker release. They are already giving excuses for Rattler and saying his offensive line was bad at SC. Well duh! Carr played behind the worst offensive line performance in NFL history for the first 6 weeks and it didn’t get much better after that.
      They speak of a 5th round draft pick with gleam in their eyes, but refuse to see a proven franchise QB in Carr.
      Them Saints fans calling for Rattler to start by mid season are so silly.

    • @Warrior93x
      @Warrior93x หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@pbm8264exactly. People think Carr is trash, I can’t wait until he plays good really good then what will the fans say? Lol. I know Carr is capable of doing it all, he just needs help from the DL and a team that can run the ball.

    • @geoffhoutman1557
      @geoffhoutman1557 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If he plays great, the fans will love him.
      He has to play great first ( a whole season not just last five weeks)

    • @tdsly6031
      @tdsly6031 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@geoffhoutman1557 maybe if he was supported by the fan base it would be easier?

    • @geoffhoutman1557
      @geoffhoutman1557 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tdsly6031 You know that's not how it works. He gotta convert the fans, best way to do that is by leading and winning. Zero excuses

  • @captaindeluxe7328
    @captaindeluxe7328 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How many seasons in the NFL denotes a "fair chance"?

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He’s had one season with the Saints. They went 9-8. Let’s start there.

    • @ewhiii21
      @ewhiii21 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WWLsportshow many seasons Taysom get?

    • @tomaspenna2815
      @tomaspenna2815 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ewhiii21Taysom never got a fair chance either. Payton tried to force him into being a pocket QB smdh

    • @captaindeluxe7328
      @captaindeluxe7328 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@WWLsports And when we miss the Playoffs, again?

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@captaindeluxe7328 then we talk about that ... but I'm not going to assume something will happen just to criticize it.

  • @Bandit9539
    @Bandit9539 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In hiss 11th season theres always an excuse for Derek carr that’s why fans are pissed

    • @dabking3611
      @dabking3611 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ☝️💯☝️

    • @_DaBears_
      @_DaBears_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't think anyone makes excuses. I hear stuff like, "If the NFL didn't screw over Gruden and Ruggs never killed that lady, Derek Carr would have been in the playoffs with a good chance to win a game or more." They aren't excuses. It's people saying what happened. Then someone says about a broken leg and not being able to play in the playoffs, "always an excuse."
      Your reasoning, "A broken fibula is no excuse. People always making excuses for Carr." It makes you look weird to some people.
      You should just say you don't like him, don't think he is good enough, or something like you don't think he can win in the playoffs.
      Is Aaron Rodgers achilles injury just peoples excuse for why the Jets didn't win the Super Bowl last year? Or is it not an excuse, just what happened?

    • @Bandit9539
      @Bandit9539 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@_DaBears_ Bro you wrote all that for nothing. Carr nor DA are not winners. The only way to shut the narrative up is to win

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now that's a fact! 💯👍🏼👍🏼

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@_DaBears_Those are excuses casual fanboy! Yeah it happened but before it happened Carr was still coming up short so it's just another Carr excuse! 💯😆😆😆

  • @jamesswain3464
    @jamesswain3464 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fair shot. Your nuts. He got money that the franchise took forever to give Drew. give me one GM in the damn league that would give a quarterback with a losing record the money that Derek got. There is not one. money has got to play better than what Carr did last season.

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน

      He’s the 15th-highest-paid QB in the league. He’s now just slightly ahead of Baker.

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@WWLsportsName me 1 QB that got paid that much money and kept his starting job for 11 years straight although he only played 1 playoff game in 10 years and won none! I'll wait..⏳ 💯Smh😆😆😆

    • @akeredun
      @akeredun หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly no other team would have given Carr $150.00 let alone million. Carr's totaled.

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@goldenking562LBC He’s the 15th-highest-paid QB in the league. He’s now just slightly ahead of Baker.

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WWLsports Ok but you haven't answered my question..

  • @dlove-vp1od
    @dlove-vp1od หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Without Payton and Bree’s y’all turned saints into a mom and pops business carr been in the league 10 years has 1 playoff appearance and lost career loser just like DA but fans still saying he’s good lol y’all are beyond help hey atleast and the end of the season y’all can say well he completed 70 percent of passes lmfao

    • @_DaBears_
      @_DaBears_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like most mom and pops business though...

  • @ocnlltgic
    @ocnlltgic หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've loved Bobby since the Michigan team... I was on an aircraft carrier in the Middle East back then... AND then Miller let you get away to Atlanta and that airplane thing you did... I swear I am just getting back to loving you again Bobby... but you tested me... Bruce out.

  • @ocnlltgic
    @ocnlltgic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bobby... you got the message through to Miller but the Airplane thing hurt me... and a buncha my friends too... you gloated on him but it hurt us all.

  • @TruckerRo
    @TruckerRo หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Just like the organization never gave Jameis Winston a fair chance now ppl wants to highlight a "fair chance"

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You're mad at the organization for that, but it's really more on Sean for bailing on the situation (and also the fragility of the human body).

    • @Keltek95
      @Keltek95 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree

    • @TruckerRo
      @TruckerRo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@WWLsports never said I was mad at the organization, don't change the narrative. "Fair Chance" is the topic.. the fans will start giving overrated players fair chances when the organization start giving players the fans actually love and want to see get a fair chance until then the fans will do exactly what the organization does 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️ btw we love Scott Shante so no shot to you fam

    • @christopherfava2529
      @christopherfava2529 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@TruckerRoJameis Winston throws to many Interceptions,why you think Tampa Bay got rid of him,baker Mayfield took Tampa to the Superbowl with the same receivers,Mike Evans ,Chris Goodwin ,tom Brady came in a won them a Superbowl the following year 🤷

    • @joshuapolite3054
      @joshuapolite3054 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You do know JW tore his knee up...and then had broken bones in his back the next year...it's no one's fault

  • @Xx392sMurfxX
    @Xx392sMurfxX หลายเดือนก่อน

    Key words END OF THE YEAR. As a saints fan i am no longer impressed

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Playing your best at the end of the year is typically a good thing.

    • @Xx392sMurfxX
      @Xx392sMurfxX หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WWLsports i understand that, but in my opinion i just feel under D.A the saints don’t have that same passion or desire to win.

  • @Mr-kd2dk
    @Mr-kd2dk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My thing is let's say we didn't have Carr what could we have with 100 million we could sign o lineman wrs dbs dt ends what ever else we needed instead of giving money to carr

  • @morethanenoughwoodworks7654
    @morethanenoughwoodworks7654 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    DC has never been a world beater. It's not like we don't have over a decade of performance to understand what he is. He doesn't suck, and he's no Drew Brees (who is?). He is an average NFL QB. He can certainly win games and he typically will not be the reason we lose games. In other words, he's good enough to win, but don't expect him to will his team to victory. Last year was a 'down' year for him, mostly due to the worst O line in the NFL and Pete Carmichael just phoning it in with the most predictable and boring offense in the league. New OC, new O line talent- this year will be better than last.

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stop the cap bitter Carr groupie in disguise! That bum is the primary reason why teams can't win! 💯😆😆😆

  • @franciscopomar2942
    @franciscopomar2942 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thats because the majority of saints fans been following this team for years and we know a good qb when we see 1. He aint it...he showed me in week 2 last year....he didnt know the plays, threw the ball to the wrong receivers, and on 1 play he paniced during a pressure and threw an int in the endzone....he aint got it...herbert was way better then carr ...he stood there and made his throws...i never seen bobby panic in the pocket...never....we dont breed cowards im new orleans ....ibwas born and raised here....ratler not ready...and mught never be....wishful thinking at this point...win the nfc south ....expectations have been lowered and lowered and lowered,.they brain washing people makem think its ok if we have a crappy team as long as we make the playoffs.....loomis is out of touch with the fanbase....we dont want a team to barely make it to the playoffs...seriously

  • @akeredun
    @akeredun หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We gave Carr a chance. He showed and proved he's a lazy entitled bum. HE has to do the work or HE can kick rocks.

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao yea, totally a reasonable take to have about someone you’ve watched on TV a few times.

    • @akeredun
      @akeredun หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WWLsports Watched him fail for YEARS with Raiders. When we played against him, he couldn't get the Raiders past the 50 yards line. Sobbing at press conferences. What was he expected to do for us but lose--and cash checks. YOU may be a shill, but I'm not.

    • @diddymoe6816
      @diddymoe6816 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@akeredunnah u just an ignoramus

    • @_DaBears_
      @_DaBears_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@akeredun Please tell your friends to stop posting on Saints stuff about Derek Carr, we get it. He is not on your team now. You don't need to think about him so much and post on every video you see.

    • @akeredun
      @akeredun หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@_DaBears_ Kick Rocks, shill.

  • @BrentonBannister-gc2pt
    @BrentonBannister-gc2pt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s 2024… why is mid still being defended?

    • @goldenking562LBC
      @goldenking562LBC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's because he's a Christian white dude with a older brother that played in the NFL! If it wasn't because of that he would have lost his job a long time ago! 💯

    • @akeredun
      @akeredun หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cause they are just like him MID and overpaid to be so!!

    • @akeredun
      @akeredun หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@goldenking562LBC You aaid it! I can't figure out WHY we hired this junk Carr--other than to give some rando Caucasian millions because he's DA's friend. DA chose a loser to keep him company.

  • @PainfulTruths504
    @PainfulTruths504 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So? Jameis wasn’t given a fair chance. We don’t care about Carr….hes an underachieving cry baby, he throws players under the bus for his mishaps. No accountability. Give me the rookie!

  • @jasonbrown2006
    @jasonbrown2006 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Derek Carr is horrible!!! The Raiders benched this guy mid-season. Why would you want him? Why put someone else’s trash in your house? And then pay him over 100 million dollars!!!! And if your hurt sit down! Why carry 3 other quarterbacks on the roster if your intentions are to play one???

    • @joshuapolite3054
      @joshuapolite3054 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He is not horrible. Stop the hyperbole

    • @eduardopoceros7737
      @eduardopoceros7737 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Mcdaniels is the one that benched him and he wont be a head coach anytime soon.

    • @jasonbrown2006
      @jasonbrown2006 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When he played us that year, how many points did his team score?

    • @erndez2361
      @erndez2361 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're lacking brain cells. Clearly you don't know anything. 2 of the games saints lost last year Carr had a lead and defense and Jamison blew it so please stop talking out of your *ss

    • @dabking3611
      @dabking3611 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@eduardopoceros7737CARRBAGE FANBOYS LIKE YOU ALWAYS GOT EXCUSES FOR CARRBAGE 🗑️

  • @woodsoncircle
    @woodsoncircle 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Smdh

  • @bookerrankin6503
    @bookerrankin6503 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Scott lost me when he said Derek Carr is a really good QB.

    • @williamsowerssowers2505
      @williamsowerssowers2505 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ur a casual, bro acting like Derek Carr didn’t absolutely embarrass Bree’s when we vsed him. Bros acting like Derek wasn’t gonna have a mvp to his name before snapping his damn leg

    • @mikestoltzfus9316
      @mikestoltzfus9316 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think he might know what a good QB looks like. Since he actually played against a few.

    • @outrunna
      @outrunna หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@williamsowerssowers2505 one season what happened to the other 8 years. carr is garbage

    • @outrunna
      @outrunna หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MosheGoldbergTheKingthe only people that are stupid are the carr fans. How do you guys praise a mf that has been in the league 10 years & has never done anything. Think about that with your single brain cell dumbass

  • @0Shane13
    @0Shane13 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    1. Derek Carr did not win and did not live up to expectations last year.
    2. The coach makes excuses for Derek Carr
    3. Derek Carr was pointing the finger and throwing teammates under the bus last year.
    4. The Coach did not give Jameis a fair chance.
    5. Saints looked like a JV team against the rams.
    6. Much of Carr’s game is about short passes and check downs. His efficient stats are misleading. You watch a slow prodding game and Derek car has a 97 qb rating and you say he’s playing good. But Patrick Mahomes had a 92 qb rating last year. Does that mean Carr is better? No way. Numbers lie.

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      My only issue is that we talk about a 9-8 season like it’s the worst thing that’s ever happened.

    • @viewfinder1030
      @viewfinder1030 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🎯
      Empty stats is what Carr produced…

    • @jasonbrown2006
      @jasonbrown2006 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WWLsportsit’s UNACCEPTABLE

    • @tomaspenna2815
      @tomaspenna2815 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@viewfinder1030 how many games did Carr produce "empty stats"?

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jasonbrown2006 there were three playoff teams last season with the same record.

  • @ocnlltgic
    @ocnlltgic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Miller deserved that but I did not. But I am back in your camp Mr. Cajun Cannon.

  • @franciscopomar2942
    @franciscopomar2942 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Scott is fos carr is crap...the film dont lie...dont make me go into the filmroom and pull videos of him panicing in the pocket as a raider and a saint....he is what he is

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love when people pretend they watch film

  • @RealOGMudbone
    @RealOGMudbone หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s the way he carries himself

    • @diddymoe6816
      @diddymoe6816 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You'd prefer finger licking Winston cause his complexion don't lie

  • @MVPBarberLounge
    @MVPBarberLounge หลายเดือนก่อน

    The last 6 games were all vs weak teams smh

    • @WWLsports
      @WWLsports  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People wanting to explain away going to Tampa and dominating that game is kind of the whole point. They won five of their last six games and could’ve clinched the division at home. You decided what that take was going to be in Week 10.

  • @checkboy8
    @checkboy8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I won’t lie no one cares about mid level carr bruh

  • @dabking3611
    @dabking3611 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    CARRBAGE IS 🗑️

  • @Adin100
    @Adin100 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Derek carr is terrible

  • @zackwilloughby9185
    @zackwilloughby9185 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's good for Derek Carr to go into the season with zero fan expectation. However until his footwork improves he is an injury waiting to happen