Marvel United Multiverse | Buyer's Guide | with Steve & Canje Studios

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  • @gregspacek506
    @gregspacek506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for this guys! Answered my questions. I only have S1 core, S2 core and Enter the Spider verse so i will be taking the herald pledge plus promo combon plus Sinister 6 and maximum carnage option you mentioned! S1 promo box is going for about $300 itself from what I could find.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad it was useful!

    • @CanjeStudios
      @CanjeStudios ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You will have tons of replayability with that. great selection!

  • @flipz101
    @flipz101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally agree on the plastic tokens, they are lovely!
    On the cardboard locations, they are expensive for what they are but I also like them. Didn’t realise they had extra cardboard to make the threats level on them! Found that in the box after you mentioned it in this video! However I have to say, I never had a problem with the threat cards before though?

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I don't mind the cardboard tokens to keep the threats level. Yes is extra but also a nice visual reminder that the ability is available.
      Agreed the plastic tokens are excellent quality.

  • @beakerkell
    @beakerkell ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, this really helps with deciding what to add in the pledge manager! :)

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are very welcome. I'm happy to hear you found it useful.

  • @familymeeple
    @familymeeple ปีที่แล้ว

    No. 3: Team Decks - absolutely love the idea of this content, however I was more apprehensive about this than the campaign decks re: needing all the previous content. Appreciate there was talk of being able to "swap out" heroes, but having not yet seen it in action, I'm interesting to see how it all plays out.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh interesting. I was the opposite. The campaign decks seemed built for specific heroes (at least with how they were described) while team decks seemed less specific.
      There are exceptions though like the team deck that is all just weapons for specific heroes.
      This is what I'm most excited for but I think all the new design spaces they have introduced in United S3 are fantastic

  • @familymeeple
    @familymeeple ปีที่แล้ว

    Play mat: This is my first MU KS. I'm glad to have an option to buy the play mat (not having previous versions) and personally, I love the colour on this version so looking forward to having this. I don't mind that it's smaller and think it's good that they have left the notion of using a story line around the mat, whilst also not forcing people to do so, recognising some choose to play the storyline in a line. Either case, I have a feeling the storyline will be all the more important from what I've observed thus far... Exciting stuff! ❤

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a sucker for playmats but I also don't recommend them very often as it's usually just more.
      But the United playmat has been an awesome purchase. I feel it helps us play the game and is one of the few playmats I do recommend.

  • @familymeeple
    @familymeeple ปีที่แล้ว

    No. 6 - really looking forward to the campaign decks; love stringing gameplay together. (Re: rest of the content, this is my first back and have jumped in acquiring all of the content!) ❤

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am the most curious about the campaign decks. I think they sound pretty cool but I'm worried they may be too dependent on owning most or all of the content.
      We will be sure streaming some campaigns plays whenever the product delivers

  • @aaronst.pierre3080
    @aaronst.pierre3080 ปีที่แล้ว

    The team decks are still OP as well, they add 1 health to every deck in a 4-player game. Again, I suggested during the kickstarter that if you play a card from the team deck you should substitute it for a card in your deck, discard your card in hand.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have no idea if the team decks will be OP. Players are already removing a card from their decks to use the Team Decks. Having players lose health AND a card from their deck to play a team card seems incredibly harsh, especially when clearing a negative mandatory card.
      I'm excited to find out more about these team decks! They seem like a really fun idea.

  • @familymeeple
    @familymeeple ปีที่แล้ว

    No. 1: both great choices without a shadow of a doubt! Love both of these items and excited to play through everything! 😁👍
    Re: Sinister Six moved with Carnage is going to be fantastic!!! 🤯

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The modularity of Max Carnage is going to be super fun to play. So much value!

  • @aaronst.pierre3080
    @aaronst.pierre3080 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plastic Tokens
    Villain Dashboard Cardboard
    Location Cardboard
    Skrulls
    Pets
    Map (gameboard)
    That's the list of stuff you can dump, the optional stuff.

  • @vroy2984
    @vroy2984 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My group exclusively plays Super Villain mode because we are all so competitive. Civil War is my #1 expansion I'm excited about.
    The Gold vs Blue team was ok, but with my group, we just end up fighting each other and the villain wins.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh awesome! Yeah not for me but I think Civil War mode looks great for PvP for sure. Definitely a great value for that method of playing

    • @CanjeStudios
      @CanjeStudios ปีที่แล้ว

      Civil War is definitely going to be an amazing value for you, for sure.

  • @derekgarcia3069
    @derekgarcia3069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great discussion. These are always fun videos!
    I'm pretty inline with you both except for two major differences;
    1. Campaign decks are at the bottom for me as I tend to avoid campaigns in general.
    2. Annihilation is 3rd from the bottom (above pets and campaigns). Not much to it and the challenge sounds fun but way too fiddly to ever see much use.
    Maximum Carnage is definitely tops though! Especially during the KS with all the extra dashboards.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Campaign decks and Annihilation were very polarizing for us too 😁
      Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for sharing your own thoughts!

    • @derekgarcia3069
      @derekgarcia3069 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Co-opGuild I expect the campaign decks are possibly the most polarizing add-on in general. The added stories will definitely be nice, but the plug and play nature of United is such a big selling point for the system that the two parts almost seem at odds.
      That said, it's such a small part of the overall cost I have no issue getting them. Who knows, maybe we'll play them if they seem to have built in variety (which it sounds like they do).

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes agreed. Price wise they are a lot of value and I love the concept. I'm just worried for others who don't have what they need for the campaigns. How well do substitutions work? Just a big unknown that we can't answer at the moment.

  • @familymeeple
    @familymeeple ปีที่แล้ว

    No. 9: Civil War - like the idea of adding a further change up in ways to play and, as you say, lots of additional content able to be used elsewhere, including Giant Man! Gotta love a giant mini 😁

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Giant Man mini was a great inclusion. Recently Canje Studios and I tried out a fan variant of the Civil War setting which was super fun. I'll probably just play that mode with these new characters due to it being co-op

  • @rustydowd879
    @rustydowd879 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Venom was in season one, before they came up with the purple antiheros.

  • @powellfamilyfarm
    @powellfamilyfarm ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work, guys. Great discussion as usual.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Hope it was helpful and thanks for watching.

  • @familymeeple
    @familymeeple ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally, I was really joyous at the inclusion of the animals! Key incision for me were Throg, Loki-gator and the original GotG... Love this addition ❤️

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everyone loves Loki gator since the series. Would have been very surprised if they didn't work that into the game somewhere.
      I do like the pets in Legendary so I'm curious how they will play in United. I think my bigger issue is there isn't enough variety.

  • @tobyscustoms4813
    @tobyscustoms4813 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need all the world war hulks stuff. A-Bomb, Red she hulk, Thor hulk, spider hulk, cyclops hulk, bad guy the master. Skaar

  • @dablomp
    @dablomp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As soon a Derrick said the Pets expansion was such a waste, I instantly liked the video. Haha. TRUTH!

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahahaha I was waiting for his response, he was so vocal about it in our Discord server 🤣

    • @CanjeStudios
      @CanjeStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL, love it!

    • @raortiz73
      @raortiz73 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. I am not a fan of the pets. Kitty and Lockhead mechanic did not work for me.

  • @AceSpec
    @AceSpec ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for this buyers guide. I had a question, which you actually answered during this video. It was about using the cardboard locations if I’m not getting everything. So thanks for that.
    My other question, for adding things to pledge manager, is this…. I’m brand new to the game. In your opinion for value and gameplay etc, would you recommend which if these two bundles.
    A) Galactus $100 pledge, with Maximum Carnage, Sinister Six original, Fantastic Four, plastic tokens and Cardboard locations.
    Or
    B) Galactus pledge, And both season 1 and 2 stretch goal boxes.
    Thanks for any insight

    • @jabbawookeez01
      @jabbawookeez01 ปีที่แล้ว

      my plan is galactus pledge, one of the SG boxes and like.. maximum carnage. i MIGHT just do the all in without the SG boxes.. and hope to get them later. i only pledged for the base $85 pledge to get my foot in the door and not miss the SGs

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ooo tough question.
      Canje and I chatted and think we would recommend the Stretch Goal boxes. They are excellent value and more importantly, exclusive. You will be able to get Max Carnage at retail later.
      It's a tough call though. Both those options are excellent choices

  • @jonathana6298
    @jonathana6298 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm looking at my old pledge. This is what I ended up getting:
    Multiverse Pledge
    The Age of Apocalypse
    Pet Companions
    Campaign Decks
    Team Decks
    Promo Team Decks
    Multiverse Cardboard Locations
    Multiverse Cardboard Villain Dashboards
    War of Kings
    Multiverse Plastic Tokens
    Original Plastic Tokens
    I basically got into Marvel United late, when I picked up an All-in pledge for Marvel United X-men. And I'm just back for the X-men stuff. I'm going to pick out all the X-men stuff and sell or give away all the rest. I'm really looking forward to the pets expansion (and I'm only getting it for the shark and Lockheed content). Pets are like super equipment to me. And Kitty Pride and Multipleman, and any other character who can move more pieces around the board are already some of my favorites.
    War of Kings mainly for Gladiator and Black Bolt (for the Illuminati Team).

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like the sound of your plan!

  • @aaronst.pierre3080
    @aaronst.pierre3080 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So in their current form Pets are far too strong. What I suggested to the devs during the kickstarter was to remove a single card from your deck for each pet card you add to your deck. That's the only way to balance out your deck size. This still makes your deck strong but it minimizes that somewhat. It's all about game integrity.
    I would agree about 2 new models for the Civil War but the Cap there is the best sculpt in the entire Wave so he has to stay. I actually like Wave 1 Iron man more than Wave 3 personally.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm I can see replacing cards in a hero deck for each pet card to be too powerful since you are likely replacing cards without specials for specials. This probably only really matters for 4 player games though. 2 player games are much more dependent on villains ending the game than heroes.
      I haven't tried the pets yet so will be interested to see how they wind up feeling balanced. I was worried about equipment feeling too powerful but so far in Spider-Geddon that has not been the case. Fortunately all the pet cards only have a single action so that should help reduce their power levels. I'm expecting them to be a moderate impact to the game with the single action and dilution of the hero cards to offset the increased deck size and additional effects

  • @familymeeple
    @familymeeple ปีที่แล้ว

    No. 8 - Inhumans are a decent team to be fair, interested to see what they do with the gameplay content beyond just the minis. Can definitely see the benefit of having a teleporting dog on your team! 😜
    On the content front, certainly many of the original MU boxes only contained 3 heroes and 1 villain... Levels in this latest KS are so much better!

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah definitely agree with the S3 content looks to be a better value per box. So excited for this product to be delivered!

  • @aaronst.pierre3080
    @aaronst.pierre3080 ปีที่แล้ว

    If they did Magus + Goddess as all-in pledge it would have lined up perfectly with Wave 1. Or Magus + Hero cards for Thanos. Magus literally controls multiple universes. 13 at the time of Infinity War. He's more Multiverse than Kang ever was. And he's more powerful and better at it.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh that's a good idea! I'm guessing they went with Kang due to familiarity

  • @familymeeple
    @familymeeple ปีที่แล้ว

    No. 5 - World War Hulk: Colosseum PvP could work great for this theme! 😜

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      It absolutely would work thematically!

  • @aaronst.pierre3080
    @aaronst.pierre3080 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Kickstarter campaign is an entire experience in itself. It's like a super intense cottage trips with family and friends. And the end of it you've fought, you've loved, you probably wanted to kill some folks but after it all it was an awesome experience.
    Definitely we would all grab Season 4 :P

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I am afraid I wouldn't be able to say no to a S4 all in either.
      I do think I would avoid other United intellectual property game since I have so much of Marvel already

    • @aaronst.pierre3080
      @aaronst.pierre3080 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Co-opGuild I agree with that.

  • @iTower_Prime
    @iTower_Prime ปีที่แล้ว

    where is the link to Dom's campaign? I don't see it in the description. Thanks in advance.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      See if this works for you
      boardgamegeek.com/filepage/219972/marvel-united-ultimate-campaign-map

  • @aaronst.pierre3080
    @aaronst.pierre3080 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, you guys functionally build your games around your locations. I find that almost kills the game in a sense. I think it works better by just designing your team around random locations. Your team should be able to deal with the environment and villain.
    I mean, the only unique thing about Silver Surfer is getting to choose one location to play with.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and no. We would do a combination of random and selected locations.
      If we did pure randomness, sometimes we would end up with multiple locations with the same or similar effects which wasn't much fun. I usually would random locations and then adjust the locations to be balanced for variety.
      Now for the campaign we did, that was very different as we locked the locations behind certain bosses and areas. It's not part of the rules but made it thematically fun. (We didn't use Wakanda locations until we unlocked the Black Panther area of the campaign).
      But yeah normally we play with partial randomness for locations

  • @joshuaclaibourn9847
    @joshuaclaibourn9847 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maximum Carnage is #1. But if they would have included an automa mode for Civil War and made Captain America and Iron Man Anti-heroes so you could play against either side of the conflict. It would move up to #2.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have loved that change for Civil War as well. It's a very cool set.
      Hard to beat the modularity and value of Max Carnage though. 😁

  • @jeffreyhodge812
    @jeffreyhodge812 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my first time backing, when does the pledge manager happen?

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It varies a lot but usually 1-2 months after the close of the campaign.

  • @radamescorujo5578
    @radamescorujo5578 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Canje , what was wrong with Nick Fury Sr.? He's the O.G. Nick.

  • @RemisRandR
    @RemisRandR ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a good place to find local buying groups? Really only interested in one KS exclusive, the rest I’d get at retail

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question. I might suggest the Marvel United Discord: discord.gg/dPervtVh
      It's very active and you may get lucky and find some locals there.
      Good luck!

    • @RemisRandR
      @RemisRandR ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Co-opGuild thanks, will give that a look

  • @aaronst.pierre3080
    @aaronst.pierre3080 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be fair to the argument that fix a problem with each villain. You could just use the FF and beat every villain easily. :P

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry I'm not sure which argument you are referring to. Fantastic Four is a very strong team for sure, well when you use all of them

  • @andrewwilson895
    @andrewwilson895 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does Canje have against pets? More pets should be added to all games. Other than Morph, Lockjaw and the pets pack are the highlights of this campaign for me.

    • @jonathangillies6531
      @jonathangillies6531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And why does he hate Nick Fury Senior? That dude is classic timeless

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      More to do around some of the meta around the character

  • @vroy2984
    @vroy2984 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang, I forgot all about the collector, he could have been great.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah maybe we will still see him...
      Not sure how much is left

  • @aaronst.pierre3080
    @aaronst.pierre3080 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Annihilation heroes are just better as a foursome than any other box. So it's do you like a lot of average content or a little of amazing content. The Annihilation value is low but the heroes are far more powerful and will see more play because of it.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a good point. That power level will probably be more apparent later when folks get to see the heroes in detail

  • @Omni_gmr
    @Omni_gmr ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Agent Coulson in the comics? They've said a few times that they can't use MCU stuff that isn't in the comics.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh good question. I don't believe he was part of the comics but maybe is now? I'm not sure. Even if he is added now to comics I wonder if that means he is not part of what they can do with the license.
      Good point!

    • @CanjeStudios
      @CanjeStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, he goes by Cheese and Nick Fury Jr. is Mac.

  • @branboom3342
    @branboom3342 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the problems with Nick Fury Sr.?

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I forget the details, but it had to do with the lore and creation of the both Fury

  • @user-rn4ls2mh5d
    @user-rn4ls2mh5d ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Question: Does return of the S6 really add something to:
    Base pledge
    Classic promos bundle
    Maximum carnage
    ?

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question. Return of the Sinister Six is a fantastic value. I'm going to assume we are talking about the Kickstarter exclusive option here as the retail will be much more limited.
      It doesn't inherently mix with the core sets. The main value is being able to play as a group villain battle and each villain independently. Effectively 7 different adversaries combinations.
      Classic promos does add to Return of S6. Specifically you can add Rhino, Venom, and Carnage into the mix of group villain battles. To be honest, you would only use the minis and could substitute without the official mini.
      Maximum Carnage adds a ton to Return of S6. Specifically it adds Morbius, Scream, Scorpion, Shriek, Demogoblin, and Doppelganger
      You didn't mention it but Spider-Geddon, the new retail set will also add to Return to S6 with Spot and Morlun.
      Hope this helps! Let me know if you have further questions.

    • @user-rn4ls2mh5d
      @user-rn4ls2mh5d ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! So I Guess to make good use of the Sinister Six Assembled game mode from the maximum carnage expansion it is best to also buy Return of the S6 (KE)?
      Thinking about pledging basic pledge with classic promos bundle and optionally maximum carnage/return of S6.
      Isn’t it so much content that you never get through it all? :-)

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been fortunate to have played it all, but that took a long time to do. It's a ton of content.
      What you have proposed will give you a ton of content for relatively little space/cost. I think you will be satisfied.
      Really it boils down to the promos boxes, Return to S6 and Maximum Carnage for a ton of value and content.
      United is great though. I never tire of it.

    • @user-rn4ls2mh5d
      @user-rn4ls2mh5d ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Co-opGuild thank you so much! This is really helpful

  • @aaronst.pierre3080
    @aaronst.pierre3080 ปีที่แล้ว

    Iron Lad should have subbed out for Morg or an anti-hero Stardust.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it's a bit crazy how many other characters they have yet to include in United. Seems like an endless source of content

  • @jabbawookeez01
    @jabbawookeez01 ปีที่แล้ว

    my plan is to just get the all in.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha same here 😁

  • @pietrorasputin52
    @pietrorasputin52 ปีที่แล้ว

    By the way, need to correct this channel. Gladiator is Shi'ar and part of the Shi'ar Imperial Guard. He has nothing to do with the Kree, except as a sworn enemy of them

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Doh! You are correct. Thanks for pointing that out

    • @CanjeStudios
      @CanjeStudios ปีที่แล้ว

      Great catch, sorry for the goof.

  • @MyMiniMovieMagic
    @MyMiniMovieMagic ปีที่แล้ว

    Disagree on Civil War - No Way you can create a Retail Box for Civil War and not have Cap and Iron Man in it....expecting people to have to go either purchase another box or find the minis on Ebay or something doesn't make sense from CMONs standpoint.
    Also, just bc they fall on opposite sides of the Accords, Iron Man and Cap ARENT anti-heroes, the developers have really made that a point they wanted to be clear. They are heroes with different ideas of how to best be heroes.
    Also, this is Multiverse. Having 2 Caps and two Iron man's isn't wild.
    And the Equipment alone doesn't fix S1 Cap and Iron Man for me.....those two alone made Civil War a top expansion for me along with Maximum Carnage.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do agree Civil War expansion wouldn't be the same without Iron Man and Captain America.
      Also while you are right they are not antiheroes, it would have been cool if they made the system work for co-op play in some fashion. Not that it needs to happen but would love to see what they could do.
      Thanks for watching and sharing!

  • @danielgustavoparedes
    @danielgustavoparedes ปีที่แล้ว

    Season 4 !!!! 😰

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you wanting a Season 4?

  • @aaronst.pierre3080
    @aaronst.pierre3080 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superman = Gladiator, Hyperion, Blue Marvel
    Sentry = very bad writing. A character who was popular for 5 minutes. Used only for a plot hole at the end of WWH.

    • @Co-opGuild
      @Co-opGuild  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha yeah Gladiator always was a weirdly interesting character being as powerful as he is confident

    • @tobyscustoms4813
      @tobyscustoms4813 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well he was also used to kill Aries and it took Thor to take him down. He’s not really superman either the others you mentioned definitely are but sentry’s power set isn’t really the same people just compare them because he’s got a cape and a s on his belly lol. Don’t forget he did rip carnage in half

    • @aaronst.pierre3080
      @aaronst.pierre3080 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @tobyscustoms4813 he's not an interesting character, it's not well written and lacks depth of meaning in both scope and origin.

    • @tobyscustoms4813
      @tobyscustoms4813 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaronst.pierre3080 in your opinion