OMG u are awsome man thanx so much i had bought my sinden guns and had em packed up in the box never used in months cause i was thinking how would i get em to work on pc i tought i would have to set up each ps2 games myself on windows with psx2 emulator but then i wanted it in a nice menu to just choose a game like this i did know about retro lizard build for a wile but his didnt have the ps2 games so u takeing that build and adding ps2 games is so sick :D this is what i wanted
Your issues with HOTD4 are also felt with any builds of RPCS3. The devs have still yet to implement Move shake support so HOTD4 PS3 is completely unplayable until you play with a controller and even then you need a PS3, PS4 or PS5 controller to play because of the shaking motion. Even the original cabinet's guns had the shaking to reload and push away enemies. HOTD4 is one of those light gun games that really needs a lot of work put into it, even playing the game through Teknoparrot reveals that the game is speed sensitive and some PC's will run the game way too quickly even if you tell your GPU to limit the game at 60FPS
@@ThunderBob Have you had issues with getting into the game (i.e start screen shows, but pressing start on the controller doesn't do anything) to start?
Some games have different buttons to start/insert coin. If a game doesn't start usually try all the buttons and have a PlayStation remote plugged in just in case. Can go into the specific emulator to rebind most things of something is optimal for a specific game.
@@ThunderBob Endgame for instance. i try to play that but it always ends up being controlled by my analog stick of my controller. The gun doesn't seem to register. Even though in batocera menu, i see the gun sites moving areound with the gun.
Firstly, appreciate the video. My question: any experience adding a pedal to a Batocera setup with Sinden? I want to create the arcade feel, but the Linux of it all seems to not want to accept a pedal into the mix. I've read rumors that pedals might be added to be a future Bat build, but just curious if you've tried it.
some wii games they need shake to reload. I was able to get it to work when i F1 and change the inputs and run the game in dophine. But when I rerun the game in Batocera it doesn’t save the input change?
Hi, thanks for the tutorial. We now of course have Batocera 38. I have this installed to boot from my pc. Is there any way to add this light gun setup to my existing setup with Batocera 38 or does this have to replace it completely. Thanks
I would think you'd need an elgato connected to a second computer to capture footage. What I don't know is what the specs on the second computer would have to be so that gameplay captured is good enough.
Thank you for the videoes! One question; does this just enable two guns without poking around too much, cause that is my primary issue right now. How low on thumb drive size can you go? 16 gb? Thanks again!
I think 8gb is the minimum but at least 16gb suggested. The more games you add the more space you'll need. I only have one gun so my experience is limited with the two gun setup but I know it's possible. I think sometimes you need the guns on separate USB hubs. This is from the setup guide. A hardware bug prevents the use of multiple Sinden Lightguns on a single USB hub on some boards. Computers will typically use a single hub for groups of the same ports accessed via the IO panel. The best way around this is to plug one light gun into the front facing ports, and another into the IO panel. If your machine has a mixture of USB 2.0 (black tongue) and USB 3.0 (blue tongue) ports, they will usually have separate hubs.
very usefull video. I have the same setup on an old laptop all seems to run well but i can't get the PS emulator to work properly. When ever the PS2 emulator starts up the Sinden border is appears and then gun can't track its position. if you have any ideas that would be great. im on version 37.
Most of the MAME games do not show with a great resolution on a 55 inch TV for example. They are quite pixelated. I tried fixing it a bit with the X and Y strech value in MAME, but Im wondering if there is a way to make them look similar to how the Naomi games look which is way better. Any ideas? Thanks!
If you haven’t solved it yet, I recommend looking into applying a shader. Shaders are video filters that modify the graphics (e.g. smooth out pixe edges, improve colors, apply CRT screen effect etc.). Batocera supports several shaders out of the box, and you can apply them per game or per platform.
So high scores save on the MAME games ? Specifically point blank 1,2 and 3 ? I was going for retro shooter to mod a cab but the point point blank games are PlayStation versions.
Facing a lot of issues with the NAMCO 2x6 games, like Time Crisis. does not work at all.. the gun is not recognized cannot even insert coin, and then the game hungs up. Any idea how to fix this? Does it work for you? Thanks!
NAMCO 2x6 games are still preliminary. On my PC with Windows through the Play! emulator (Its the only emulator that runs NAMCO 2x6 games) i get 30FPS in TC3 and i have a Ryzen 5 5600 running at 4.5GHz and its not a good experience. We're far from having playable performance for NAMCO 2x6 games.
I'm running on a pretty decent machine 10700k, 3080. Performance really depends on the system and emulator. Newer systems will generally have higher requirements.
Hey Bob: thanks for your videos regarding the Batocera Lightgun Image. I do own Sinden Guns and on my PC the image is very much plug and play and works flawlessly. However, if I try using the Batocera Image on my Mini PC connected to my TV, for some reason the guns don't work. I can hold Left D-PAD for like 5 long seconds and try and calibrate but basically it just doesn't work = the crosshair of the gun is still all over the place after that. On Alien 3 (MAME) the crosshair is just stuck on the upper left corner of screen. I can use the Left D-PAD and shoot to calibrate but right after I do, the crosshair just goes back to being stuck in the upper left corner... Any idea on what I could do?
same problem, i fixed it updating the sinden with last firmware. even if sometimes i have to disconnect and reconnect lightgun, it seem to go in standby and no way to wake it up
@@darden78 Hey darden78: thanks for your answer! I did update from Firmware 1.6 to 1.8 but unfortunately it still doesn't work... To provide more elements/details: -Once I press the D-PAD and shoot at the center crosshair, the crosshair is kinda ok as long as I'm in the Batocera menu = It keeps skipping all the time (by a few centimeters) but I can more or less accurately aim within the preview box of the game. But once I launch a game (which indeed recognizes me pressing the shoot button) the crosshai is again stuck in the upper left corner...and it's the same for all the MAME games I've tried. Any idea where this might come from?
@@mjweber5948 if it just happens in mame, try to go in the batocera menu and change the mame version for opening the roms, for example in my first attempts, games like point blank or time crisis won't open, i launched them and they came back to the batocera menu. After changing the mame version, they work fine
Hi again. Thanks for your response :) But no the problem is all over Batocera. ON MY TV. Again: it works flawlessly with the exact same guns on my PC...that's what I am not understanding. I'm thinking maybe the image on my TV is stretched because I don't feel like every Batocera element is actually appearing on my screen (talking about elements supposed to appear on the side of the screen). But I don't know how to change the resolution... @@darden78
Awesome thank you so much, I'm gonna try this. Do you know a way to enable 2 players? if so, how? or if you know of another build that does support 2 players?
@@ThunderBobyou can't. It's a limitation of rpcs3 itself. "Shake" functionality is not emulated in the emulator. There's nothing we can do. Rpcs3 devs need to emulate more options for the PS Move to work properly as a light gun in most games.
@@ThunderBob You have more than enough for pc. I only asked because practically any quad core from the last decade can run PS2 and people think PS3 will work fine with just a smidge better hardware. But the cpu/gpu combo was odd in it with the Cell. And the emulation has been pretty lackluster on it for the last few years but slowly getting better. Saturn Emulation isn't that great and that system is nearly 30 years old. But the sad thing about the PS3 is its the last system with good light gun games on it.
i've downloaded this file twice but each time i try to extract it i'm told there is insufficient space on my drives. Each drive has over 4x the ammount of space required. Can you confirm that it still works?
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OMG u are awsome man thanx so much i had bought my sinden guns and had em packed up in the box never used in months
cause i was thinking how would i get em to work on pc i tought i would have to set up each ps2 games myself on windows with psx2 emulator but then i wanted it in a nice menu to just choose a game like this i did know about retro lizard build for a wile but his didnt have the ps2 games so u takeing that build and adding ps2 games is so sick :D this is what i wanted
I'm glad it helped. It made my setup so much easier I thought I should share.
thanks for the video now I can update my batocera for more light guns
Your issues with HOTD4 are also felt with any builds of RPCS3.
The devs have still yet to implement Move shake support so HOTD4 PS3 is completely unplayable until you play with a controller and even then you need a PS3, PS4 or PS5 controller to play because of the shaking motion. Even the original cabinet's guns had the shaking to reload and push away enemies.
HOTD4 is one of those light gun games that really needs a lot of work put into it, even playing the game through Teknoparrot reveals that the game is speed sensitive and some PC's will run the game way too quickly even if you tell your GPU to limit the game at 60FPS
Good to know. Appreciate the info.
Finally, a decent tutorial
Hope it helps. I couldn't find very clear instructions so I figured I would pass along what worked for me.
@@ThunderBob Have you had issues with getting into the game (i.e start screen shows, but pressing start on the controller doesn't do anything) to start?
Some games have different buttons to start/insert coin. If a game doesn't start usually try all the buttons and have a PlayStation remote plugged in just in case. Can go into the specific emulator to rebind most things of something is optimal for a specific game.
@@ThunderBob Endgame for instance. i try to play that but it always ends up being controlled by my analog stick of my controller. The gun doesn't seem to register. Even though in batocera menu, i see the gun sites moving areound with the gun.
I haven't tried that game but the next time I'm playing I'll test it out.
How are the fast pace games like point blank especially with multiplayer is it fast enough and accurate
Firstly, appreciate the video. My question: any experience adding a pedal to a Batocera setup with Sinden? I want to create the arcade feel, but the Linux of it all seems to not want to accept a pedal into the mix. I've read rumors that pedals might be added to be a future Bat build, but just curious if you've tried it.
some wii games they need shake to reload. I was able to get it to work when i F1 and change the inputs and run the game in dophine. But when I rerun the game in Batocera it doesn’t save the input change?
Hi, thanks for the tutorial. We now of course have Batocera 38. I have this installed to boot from my pc. Is there any way to add this light gun setup to my existing setup with Batocera 38 or does this have to replace it completely. Thanks
I would think you'd need an elgato connected to a second computer to capture footage.
What I don't know is what the specs on the second computer would have to be so that gameplay captured is good enough.
Yea. I might try that in the future. I've got a few capture cards around here.
i put it in a ryzen7 mini pc (more or less 250 euro on amazon) and it works fine, ps3 and wii included
Can you link it?
@@japexican007 i tried to buy another one but it’s avaible no more🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for the videoes!
One question; does this just enable two guns without poking around too much, cause that is my primary issue right now.
How low on thumb drive size can you go? 16 gb?
Thanks again!
I think 8gb is the minimum but at least 16gb suggested. The more games you add the more space you'll need.
I only have one gun so my experience is limited with the two gun setup but I know it's possible. I think sometimes you need the guns on separate USB hubs. This is from the setup guide.
A hardware bug prevents the use of multiple Sinden Lightguns on a single USB hub on some boards. Computers will typically use a single hub for groups of the same ports accessed via the IO panel. The best way around this is to plug one light gun into the front facing ports, and another into the IO panel. If your machine has a mixture of USB 2.0 (black tongue) and USB 3.0 (blue tongue) ports, they will usually have separate hubs.
very usefull video. I have the same setup on an old laptop all seems to run well but i can't get the PS emulator to work properly. When ever the PS2 emulator starts up the Sinden border is appears and then gun can't track its position. if you have any ideas that would be great. im on version 37.
what do you do to see all your folders under ROMS , i cant see ps2 ps3 , Wii ,switch folders in my case .
Most of the MAME games do not show with a great resolution on a 55 inch TV for example. They are quite pixelated. I tried fixing it a bit with the X and Y strech value in MAME, but Im wondering if there is a way to make them look similar to how the Naomi games look which is way better. Any ideas? Thanks!
If you haven’t solved it yet, I recommend looking into applying a shader. Shaders are video filters that modify the graphics (e.g. smooth out pixe edges, improve colors, apply CRT screen effect etc.). Batocera supports several shaders out of the box, and you can apply them per game or per platform.
So high scores save on the MAME games ? Specifically point blank 1,2 and 3 ? I was going for retro shooter to mod a cab but the point point blank games are PlayStation versions.
Having troubles to get 2 players working at same time , any tips ?
Facing a lot of issues with the NAMCO 2x6 games, like Time Crisis. does not work at all.. the gun is not recognized cannot even insert coin, and then the game hungs up. Any idea how to fix this? Does it work for you? Thanks!
NAMCO 2x6 games are still preliminary.
On my PC with Windows through the Play! emulator (Its the only emulator that runs NAMCO 2x6 games) i get 30FPS in TC3 and i have a Ryzen 5 5600 running at 4.5GHz and its not a good experience. We're far from having playable performance for NAMCO 2x6 games.
seems to be a great solution for sinden, now it just need to find a good pc to let it work good, where can i found some info about the pc features?
I'm currently using an Intel nuc and DC runs good enough to play. If you want better there's beelink. They're both mini pcs.
I'm running on a pretty decent machine 10700k, 3080. Performance really depends on the system and emulator. Newer systems will generally have higher requirements.
Hey Bob: thanks for your videos regarding the Batocera Lightgun Image. I do own Sinden Guns and on my PC the image is very much plug and play and works flawlessly. However, if I try using the Batocera Image on my Mini PC connected to my TV, for some reason the guns don't work. I can hold Left D-PAD for like 5 long seconds and try and calibrate but basically it just doesn't work = the crosshair of the gun is still all over the place after that. On Alien 3 (MAME) the crosshair is just stuck on the upper left corner of screen. I can use the Left D-PAD and shoot to calibrate but right after I do, the crosshair just goes back to being stuck in the upper left corner...
Any idea on what I could do?
same problem, i fixed it updating the sinden with last firmware. even if sometimes i have to disconnect and reconnect lightgun, it seem to go in standby and no way to wake it up
@@darden78 Hey darden78: thanks for your answer!
I did update from Firmware 1.6 to 1.8 but unfortunately it still doesn't work...
To provide more elements/details:
-Once I press the D-PAD and shoot at the center crosshair, the crosshair is kinda ok as long as I'm in the Batocera menu =
It keeps skipping all the time (by a few centimeters) but I can more or less accurately aim within the preview box of the game.
But once I launch a game (which indeed recognizes me pressing the shoot button) the crosshai is again stuck in the upper left corner...and it's the same for all the MAME games I've tried.
Any idea where this might come from?
@@mjweber5948 if it just happens in mame, try to go in the batocera menu and change the mame version for opening the roms, for example in my first attempts, games like point blank or time crisis won't open, i launched them and they came back to the batocera menu. After changing the mame version, they work fine
Hi again. Thanks for your response :) But no the problem is all over Batocera. ON MY TV. Again: it works flawlessly with the exact same guns on my PC...that's what I am not understanding. I'm thinking maybe the image on my TV is stretched because I don't feel like every Batocera element is actually appearing on my screen (talking about elements supposed to appear on the side of the screen). But I don't know how to change the resolution...
@@darden78
Change the resolution on mini pc so will look different on tv maybe ?
Awesome thank you so much, I'm gonna try this. Do you know a way to enable 2 players? if so, how? or if you know of another build that does support 2 players?
My understanding is it should work with 2 players but I only have one gun so over never tested myself.
It works up to 4 players. Tested Ghost Squad on the Wii with 4 guns (2 sindens, 1 gun4ir, 1 wiimote). All working.
i've seen i can't play ENDGAME for ps2 and RESIDENT EVIL DEAD AIM/SURVIVOR for psx/ps2, anyone knows how to?
I'm have problems with PS3 also. Did you manage to resolve your issues with PS3?
I'm not sure what your using for a computer but PS3 requires a lot of cpu cores. 6 cores is the minimum and 8 is recommended.
Rtx 3080, 10700k, 32gb ram. They few I've tried run pretty well just need to work out some controller issues.
@@ThunderBobyou can't. It's a limitation of rpcs3 itself. "Shake" functionality is not emulated in the emulator. There's nothing we can do. Rpcs3 devs need to emulate more options for the PS Move to work properly as a light gun in most games.
@@ThunderBob You have more than enough for pc. I only asked because practically any quad core from the last decade can run PS2 and people think PS3 will work fine with just a smidge better hardware. But the cpu/gpu combo was odd in it with the Cell. And the emulation has been pretty lackluster on it for the last few years but slowly getting better. Saturn Emulation isn't that great and that system is nearly 30 years old. But the sad thing about the PS3 is its the last system with good light gun games on it.
can you do 2 guns on this? it says one only.
I clicked wifi on and setup the wifi but its saying no updates available even when im on 35.
Me to, no updates available...
@@ludgeromartins9471 I was able to fix it by buying the USB he recommends.
Did anyone get that daphne pack to work? Just quits after I start game. 😭
I didn't try them. I'm not the biggest fan of Daphne and they take lot of space. I'll see if I can add one soon and report back.
i've downloaded this file twice but each time i try to extract it i'm told there is insufficient space on my drives. Each drive has over 4x the ammount of space required. Can you confirm that it still works?