Loading a 50,000 LB Mack Superliner Wrecker On My Cabover Peterbilt

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  • I load a 1989 Mack Superliner Wrecker. Weighs 50,000 lbs. It was owned by the Lee Hi Truck Stop in Raphine Virginia.
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  • @jasonasselin
    @jasonasselin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    We'll just cut it off, we got paid.. LMAO

    • @sludo56
      @sludo56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol

    • @loft306
      @loft306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1 camera down🥺

  • @DymondzTrucking1962
    @DymondzTrucking1962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Love that old Mack she is a beast of a wrecker. Whoever's getting it getting a top notch piece of equipment. Looks like she's been well cared for. Be safe out there guy.

    • @bobbymartino9974
      @bobbymartino9974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it's a beauty

    • @dolladontcap2369
      @dolladontcap2369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobbymartino9974 wtrrtttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

  • @johndoran3274
    @johndoran3274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My first brand new truck was an ‘88 Superliner with a V8 and a Mack 18 speed with a 4+4 spicer behind it. I used it for heavy haul delivering Cat Generators out to the copper mines in New Mexico and Arizona. Best truck I ever owned. It would pass anything but a fuel stop.

  • @leukybear
    @leukybear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Absolutely gorgeous wrecker. Would win an award at a truck show for sure.

  • @philipmichel215
    @philipmichel215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What a beauty of a wrecker, 60 ton NRC slider. Looking forward to seeing the delivery

  • @brandtbecker1810
    @brandtbecker1810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    KUDOS to you and all of the truckers out there for putting up with all of the crap out there. I don't do it now because of the constant runarounds, the inflexible hours of service laws that prevent you from making any money, lack of respect from DOT, your dispatchers, and the public at large, WalMart taking all day to load or unload you. I could go on forever. The problem with when the trucking industry was deregulated umpteen years ago was that the "suits" were deregulated and yet the drivers became overly micromanaged. Anyone see anything wrong with that picture???

  • @HenryYang-2623
    @HenryYang-2623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice Old Mack, Old but reliable and useful. This is how I still enjoy old things.

  • @John-kr7iz
    @John-kr7iz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    one gorgeous superliner

  • @KatherineCracks
    @KatherineCracks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That Mack is a thing of beauty!

  • @deereman2607
    @deereman2607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw you hauling this truck on 80/94 WB near the Indiana Illinois state line! Looked really good.

  • @toddmccullough7778
    @toddmccullough7778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God Bless You, Orwell, & Family, for all the Hard Work Yunns get done!

  • @davidblaylock5200
    @davidblaylock5200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good looking wrecker. The ol'Lee-Hi brings back carpet hauling memories.

  • @devinrussell493
    @devinrussell493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There is an old Mack DM800 flatbed truck at the 3 : 48 minute mark;along with an old Mack CH dump truck,and an old White/Volvo.These are the trucks that have helped build America,and should be preserved for future generations to enjoy through the ATHS.

  • @scpittman5769
    @scpittman5769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the old school superliners

  • @Jagparts2023
    @Jagparts2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    FSC Trucking , Loved here in England.

  • @tommyhall8301
    @tommyhall8301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good morning Steve keep safe an warm buddy

  • @plumbingstuffinoregon2471
    @plumbingstuffinoregon2471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy crap that old Mack is beautiful!

  • @scootercarneal9625
    @scootercarneal9625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first time I ever drove a truck was with my brother-in-law. he had a mack cab over. While we were driving down to Florida he asked me, have you ever driven one of these, I said No. He said well you better learn quick, he jumped in the sleeper while we were moving and I had to jump over the dog house and drive it! Scared me to death. All I could see was my ass wrecking the damn thing! I made it to the Ga line where I pulled over before the scales. From then on he taught me how to shift and drive it, It was the best time of my life!!!!!!!!!

  • @user-ix8ki9lc2q
    @user-ix8ki9lc2q 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    that old school Mack looks beautiful

  • @flyerbob124
    @flyerbob124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You were down here in my neck of the woods. I live in Lexington just south of that truck stop. Wish I had know you were here we could have met up.

  • @chriscargle2639
    @chriscargle2639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet superdog . Mack built bulldog tough

  • @HyperActive7
    @HyperActive7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would be proud driving that towing beast around Raphine and surrounding area!

  • @slooo9
    @slooo9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All the years of running up an down 81 I never thought to run pass that Pilot truck stop...
    in Raphine...... lol..... so there are buildings back there... thought it was just a residential
    are. Had always noticed the Peterbuilt dealer but figured they had a fence around them ...
    NO TURN AROUND...... you know.... lol..... Bsafe out there 💎🖐🦍💪💪💪💪🍁

  • @bigdog8891
    @bigdog8891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It might be 39, but it beats loading in the snow

  • @brc2100
    @brc2100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's trucking up one day, down the next

  • @eddieradford113
    @eddieradford113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always hit the like button .love to watch you an Orwell. And I love watching your big pete in action.

  • @-SkyCat-
    @-SkyCat- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oooooh lost GoPro and you got it back!? and that is a good Looking Mack. Macks are good looking trucks. one of my favs

  • @johnbarr4472
    @johnbarr4472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man that is a nice Mack Superliner!! I wish I was the one hauling it. Good job Steve!!

  • @Nxsai
    @Nxsai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    best trucking channel on youtube. thanks steve!

  • @woogy17
    @woogy17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's a beautiful mack,seen it running in this area,next time you're at the 205 that Petro across from the pilot has amazing food,be safe out there big guy we will see you on the next trip!!!

  • @freighttrainjoe
    @freighttrainjoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those jake brakes are music to my ears especially on a 1984 362 cabover Peterbilt

  • @rickmiller9557
    @rickmiller9557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice camera work enjoyed that video

  • @greymarket6834
    @greymarket6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    welcome to my area hope you enjoyed the view in virginia

  • @tophauler8626
    @tophauler8626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very clean mack wrecker

  • @llloyd4
    @llloyd4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *LOL!* "Just cut off the stacks, we already got the money." :D

  • @douglasmeek9774
    @douglasmeek9774 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice Superliner!!

  • @sergeantmetalhead417
    @sergeantmetalhead417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a nice Superdog

  • @AllianceB95
    @AllianceB95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The next video might be tons of Coal from Orwell :D :D :D
    Great video with some laughs too :D

  • @scarlett-walker4908
    @scarlett-walker4908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice looking wrecker there

  • @keepontruckinoutlawlife1248
    @keepontruckinoutlawlife1248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd take pride in hauling that BEAST.

  • @mikemartinsr5350
    @mikemartinsr5350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Use to drive superliner pulling dump trailer

  • @richardhoneywell7411
    @richardhoneywell7411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video Steve really nice looking Mack wrecker. Really enjoy your camera angles and your commentary stay safe.

  • @prevost8686
    @prevost8686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Once it gets down past 65 degrees it’s cold to me and the older that I get, the more I despise cold. It just seems to intensify the aches and pains that come with getting older.

    • @nonameposter378
      @nonameposter378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea i was thinking the same thing this morning chaining down and it was only 20degrees. I was just thinking i dunno how ppl live in alaska and shit.

    • @prevost8686
      @prevost8686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @David Henry I’m not big into supplements but there’s one that I have taken for some time called Zyflammend that helps with inflammation. It’s no miracle cure but it does help and has no negative side effects.

  • @sludo56
    @sludo56 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That truck sounds great.

  • @frederickoning191
    @frederickoning191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just amazed! Orwell must be some pretty tough truck and trailer. It fit perfectly.

  • @JimInYamaguchi
    @JimInYamaguchi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, what a beautiful truck, that ol’ Mack! Can’t wait for your next video!

  • @davejackson8047
    @davejackson8047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice looking Bull Dog!!

  • @rhinopoop1239
    @rhinopoop1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 2 favorite trucks in the same video, awesome

  • @mikeshultz1007
    @mikeshultz1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I use to haul trucks and equipment on my rgn I would often times have to remove the front wheels. I made a cradle that held the front axle to the deck of the trailer out of some 12"x6" steel channel that I welded some adjustable uprights that had a vee for the axle to sit in.

  • @royaltar6961
    @royaltar6961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Superliner! Great video.

  • @kman-mi7su
    @kman-mi7su 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Badass Mack ya got there! Too bad you didn't have time to hang out in the area. The Blue Ridge Mountains are beautiful and there is some great scenery out there. I live in Norhtern VA just a few miles from DC. I ride out to the mountains all the time out there on my motorcycle. It is some breathtakingly beautiful riding. I snow you are a rider as well and when you get some time, you should hop on the bike and ride them. VA, MD, PA, NJ, and NY, any of those portions of the Appalachian Mountains you can't go wrong. (I'm also a Jersey boy, born and raised like you but glad I don't live in that screwed up state anymore). Anyway, keep up the good work and keep her greasy side down driver! (I also was a truck driver, traveled I-81 many times in a cabover pulling doubles for Roadway Package System now known as FedEx ground)

  • @psg6314
    @psg6314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a mack garbage truck that was a pulling beast many loads to the landfill I missed the old truck

  • @pandacurrie1812
    @pandacurrie1812 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good trucking uncle fester

  • @hughstephenson2957
    @hughstephenson2957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I spent 48 hours at the LeeHi due to the customers unloading equipment breaking down... I was delivering rolls of paper to a newspaper and it took em that long to get parts.. nice truckstop in early 06. Awesome food

  • @livinny1717
    @livinny1717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Steve that's a load ur pretty funny with the good old boys keep on trucking safe

  • @rattles3044
    @rattles3044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Saws-all........
    That's funny !
    But I like the first low-bridge way better !
    👀 🤪

  • @williamtuton6178
    @williamtuton6178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like I said videos get better I wish I wasn't retired because the wife got me doing more chores than when I was the a kid , but not let her know I love it. Along with your videos. .

  • @3FTWJames
    @3FTWJames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    seen this truck on a mack page on facebook, beautiful truck

  • @NineballChris
    @NineballChris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I always wondered how those trailers worked and how they got vehicles on there. :)

  • @777Timberwolf
    @777Timberwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now that's one heck of a load there Steve. Barely fits !! Drive safe bro.

  • @josephkreischer7167
    @josephkreischer7167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dang it! Now I got to wait until tomorrow to see how your going to tie it down. One of these days u r going to have to make an EPIC video, lol

  • @donniehodge2548
    @donniehodge2548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another good show 👏 KEEP ON TRUCKIN 🚛 🇺🇲 👍

  • @brandoncaldwell95
    @brandoncaldwell95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That first bridge would be a doozy. Afterwards, free and clear!

  • @benwilkinson8636
    @benwilkinson8636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats a tidy old mack👍

  • @larryrivers2752
    @larryrivers2752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shout out to Lee Hi from old C&S !

  • @ThumperKJFK
    @ThumperKJFK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a BIG UNIT. Great video. very nice. 👍

  • @phillipchavez755
    @phillipchavez755 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Supper Dog , the best of Mack line ,
    Now , take that winch off Shorten the Frame and put a 40inch Bunk house and give that Dog a Fresh Black and white Complexion ,

  • @sellier-bellot22
    @sellier-bellot22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now we are talking !!!

  • @98Pete
    @98Pete 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice truck there

  • @goratgo1970
    @goratgo1970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful Bulldog Hooker - Dig those Daytons. Great camera work Steve.
    Smooth going so far...This was one to watch right away - nice!

  • @samw2195
    @samw2195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    She sounds good 👍

  • @lesstrother8546
    @lesstrother8546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Howdy steve and thank you for yet another sweet video...from a fan in Oregon.

  • @scottvaughan473
    @scottvaughan473 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes you are correct Pilot took over Hess about 5-6 years ago

  • @jamesleake2121
    @jamesleake2121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely a Good Looking Mack Wrecker guess you will be running I64 back to Charleston WV got a few mountains ahead of you especially one in WV

  • @KrisHall7997
    @KrisHall7997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "We all know what not enough feels or looks like..."
    That's what she said! 🤑

  • @xc7049
    @xc7049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A cool truck hauling a cool truck. This sure beats hauling a bunch of pipes.

  • @doc3584
    @doc3584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG, you are on 81? I feel for you dude. Try not to let 81 beat you up too bad.
    Exit 205

  • @johnboone9917
    @johnboone9917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's a real nice Superliner cement mixer that I've seen running around Houston a time or two the past year. Can't remember the outfit's name, but it's a clean truck especially for working in construction.

  • @jeffuphill8874
    @jeffuphill8874 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha great vid Steve,,,, “Sweet “

  • @johnmollenkofsr6020
    @johnmollenkofsr6020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been to that shell there where u picked up that mack good food good people

  • @jaymorrisbeats85
    @jaymorrisbeats85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome to VA I live in central Virginia Richmond area love your channel

  • @morriswilliams3142
    @morriswilliams3142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ford has a new line of cabovers called the Maxx series

  • @congaman100
    @congaman100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can remember when Lee Highway was the only road between Abingdon & Bristol. The old drive in theater and the pottery barn.

  • @garyfaison3924
    @garyfaison3924 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew that area looked familiar when I seen the Petro and the pilot I passed there alot

  • @timatwell3728
    @timatwell3728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve hope you went in and seen all the old toys in there or they was couple months ago they showed me the best window cleaner there is it's ammonia and a washer fluid mix it will clean all the grime and bug guts everything but safe travels and keep the video's coming

  • @antonlueker9648
    @antonlueker9648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Lock your tires” lol 😆

  • @billsmith5581
    @billsmith5581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow that’s a load….stay safe ok

  • @harrywilson3396
    @harrywilson3396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been there many times at the R V park before IHOP the food was excellent

  • @bobbyhice8635
    @bobbyhice8635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been there many times

  • @pooh175
    @pooh175 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to hear the weight.

  • @robcephus6087
    @robcephus6087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ima miss that ol girl

  • @SuperJlonergan
    @SuperJlonergan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    throw some comments to help out! good content bro...

  • @williamelliott6556
    @williamelliott6556 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want one of these because of the winch/crane.

  • @codycarroll5873
    @codycarroll5873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats 20 minutes from me where you picked up the wrecker

  • @robertfranki5477
    @robertfranki5477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some thing different load and colorful also

  • @gailjohnson2795
    @gailjohnson2795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny saws all.

  • @kelvintorrence5994
    @kelvintorrence5994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh please tell me the old Lee hi isn't gone.i loved that place with all those old toy trucks are gone and. The western star dealership. Hood food also.

    • @timatwell3728
      @timatwell3728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it's still the same or was couple months ago still has the old toys and peddle cars in there

  • @tallone09
    @tallone09 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your correct pilot use to be a wilco.

  • @bobstratton6362
    @bobstratton6362 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I already got the money" :)

  • @justindearborn7275
    @justindearborn7275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I like that Superliner! Great video. What gear ratio you have in the diffs?