I've had much better luck mining with the drills running at a low speed. They bounce around less and grind far more consistently, plus they use less fuel.
normally, the power slider doesn't affect consumption, i've done a lot of testing some months ago and max power and minimum power on any level of GAS engine ( I'VE ONLY TESTED GAS DONT INSULT IF IT'S DEIFFERENT WITH ELEC) stops at the exact same time.
@@weewoo341 power slider certainly does affect consumption because mass is taken into effect. the more power you have the faster it spins the bearings, this consumes more power to go faster. makes perfect sense and the math in the gas engine script itself states this as such. speed isn't free.
I would: A) put lights in the roof of the trailer so you can see what's going on inside during the night; and B) make a crane on top of the trailer, perhaps where you had space for the bulldozer. You could also make the door be on the roof and move the proposed lights to the floor, this way you can load the rocks from the top of the trailer.
Personally I'd build a claw arm similar to the farmer collecter for picking up rocks. Lose the drawbridge door, and trigger the pusher and drills with sensors so you don't have to think about order of operations, you can just get straight back to picking up a new rock.
Mount a crane on the tailer at the back with a grapple on it and the next to it mount a arm with the drill head one all controlled from one seat on crane at back of trailer saves time loading and also on multiple vehicles and steps
i'm loving the trailer a lot. The little bulldozer didn't get the job done but i think you got the right idea with the Loader. If it were me, i wouldn't change the trailer at all, i would simply improve on, or change the bulldozer to something that works better and that's it. The trailer is perfect as is, even with the side door.
Was at a trade show once and saw a robot arm that was using several tools. Tools were mounted in a star pattern and the fixture on the end of the arm would rotate depending on what tool is needed so that same arm could stamp the part number, stamp part info, and then cut the part to size. I think a similar idea would work great on this mining trailer: one arm mounted to the trailer itself that has a drill or can flip the end around for a grabber.
I wish they had angled blocks so you could make a better ramp and a scoop for your mini dozer. So here's an idea, for your dozer maybe put a small floor and some rotors on the dozing part to lift it? Allows you too change the angle of the dozer's pusher and a floor to actually scoop the chunks and lift them of the ground. Maybe some front grabbers that swing in from the front to push the rocks into the scoop?
You could convert the pusher to pinch the rocks, extend a pole or two under it in case it slips and then lift the pinchers up like a forklift. Will need more weight on the back but this way you don't need to entirely shred the cute pusher idea. You really are good at minturized efficiency. Every build exercises my eyebrows quite a bit XD.
I think the way to go about the mini bulldozer situation is to make a scooping vehicle that has a bottom layer + walls which can be pushed into the actual grinder itself. It'll save time, require less effort, and overall make pife easier. Also, put stuff on a max spinning L.5 Controller instead of engines on Loop, it saves fuel for more important scenarios Love your content, keep it up
It's definitely possible to push multiple rocks with a bigger vehicle. Just bulk that up with some higher-tier concrete, widen the wheel base and the blade and put some slanted"wedge" pieces (base extension or small steel bracket, from road security checkpoints outside warehouses) on the bottom of the blade so you don't drive over them. The excavator/grappling crane sounds good, as long as it can grab multiple rocks and isn't too slow. A more powerful front loader/dozer would work great with the current trailer, especially if you also put slanted parts on the end of the ramp.
Get rid of the drawbridge style, downwards-opening door and make the trailer sit as close to the ground as possible. Then put the hitch pin and trailer wheels on pistons so you can raise the trailer to move it without it dragging on the ground. Edit: Make a replica _Killdozer_ and use it as you rock mover. That would be epic
You should put that drill onto the Little bulldozer and builen on the back of the trailer a Little garage with a ramp to go to the ground and close the garage and in the garage you can weld him for extra safety
If you have the piston stop a little short, you could use sensors ganged to an OR gate to activate the drills - they'll only turn on when there's something to crush. The bigger problem I find is filling the collectors - a single refiner can't keep up. It's the heaviest thing on the trailer, though. My current go-to is to have a vehicle with drills on the front and arm on pistons go up and over the rock and pull it in like giving it a hug. A few extra blocks keep the stone in and a collector gobbles it all up.
I think a simple fix for the bulldozer would be wedges along the bottom edge of the blade, cause the biggest problem (aside from not pushing much) is you kept driving over them on the ramp. Robot arm is probably the way to go, tho if they're that heavy it'll have to be really sturdy. Top-loading, of course, but maybe with a latchable lid to keep them from bouncing out?
Maybe the minidozer dont need a picker but the refinery trailer needed one. The minidozer does its job which is to push the rocks. You can create an automatic robot arm to pick up the rocks like garbage trucks pick up massive garbage bins
for scooping up the rocks, use the ramp pieces, that you can take from the rooftop of a warehouse. The rooftop is not part of the warehouse complex, gameplay wise, so you can basically take with you all building blocks, that you can disassemble there.
I made something similar to this in my world cause I hated the whole idea of a full drill/refinery on one vehicle. So, here’s what I found out during my R&D. 1. I made a front end loader that scoops up the rocks by lowering the bucket and the sending out a grapple to pull the rock in as I tilt the bucket. You need the puller to lock the rock into the bucket so you can go faster. But it take practice to know how to position each rock to scoop them. 2. There are 3 tiers of rocks. Tier 1 - First break, Very Heavy Tier 2 - 2nd break, Heavy Tier 3 - Raw rod, medium This is important to how heavy your loader will need to be to maneuver the rocks around. Remember, this is a front end loader. The goal is to break the node down to the Tier 1 and pick it up and drop it into the grinder. So having enough counter weight is key. 3. I put a drill on the back that runs off 3 bearings and a controller so it is long but, I used the counter weights from the big factories to help with weight. FREE GRINDING! 4. The electric engine is nice as it adds torque to get the bucket under the rocks. I added the small wedges to the front to make teeth so the rocks will roll up much easier. The only problem with this is that when you turn the engine too high it wants to flip when you stop, this is the down flaw to using electric. I wish they would add a low and high mode for this engine. That way you can swap between speed and torque. THIS WOULD BE A GAME CHANGER. 5. I use a 4 wheel triangle shape system to have better handling. The two front wheels are on no suspension and the rear middle/side-by-side wheels have suspension. This helps with taking off and stoping. It prevents it from tilting forward when under a load. And allows for better control with the electric motor. Feel free to ask any questions, I will try and answer what I can. I will try and upload it to the steam shop so it can be played around with.
Mark peeler had an idea for an rv, but i think you should have food storage in the nose of the truck for the same reason. I remember that you removed the food depositing system from the truck, so I think that you could have quite a bit of storage space for even spuds!
A big box that goes over the rocks and then drills down from the top is the most efficient way to mine. The walls keep everything in and the drills crush it. If the whole roof moves you can put collectors and refinery bots on top to collect everything.
How about inserting the rocks from below the trailer? Lika a cage on pistons, that seals the rocks, when you lower it. So you just need to drive over the rocks, or push them below the cage
maybe get a downscaled version of the thing you have for the farmers. probably just slap a claw on the crusher trailer and use that to pick up rocks and put them in directly, by cutting a hole out the top.
I built a refinery with a large gantry crane capable of grabbing and lifting those huge bolders that break off into the back of my crusher. Those Big boulders that break off are really heavy and so satisfying to watch it get pushed into my drills and into the refinebot
I'd make something like a hopper with drills at the bottom and resource collectors around them and then a crane gantry that'd pick the whole giant rock of the ground and put it in the grinder.
Adding to the side door with some sort of scraper that pulls items onto the door and closes the door loading them into the grinder area could work. Then you just need to push the big stone into the collection area near the side door.
If you can get the rocks close you could have an arm go out from the trailer, drop down, then pull the rocks into the maw of the beast. Also could double joint the ramp so it folds down flat to the ground.
Oh dude! I just had a thought. Have a dedicated Tractor for that Trailer, that is the Bucket Loader. Drop the trailer, break the initial rock formation, then dump it all in. While it's processing the stone/metal, move to the next formation. Lather, rinse repeat.
use a piston to push the side door onto the ground flat, then load all the stones onto that, then close the door to dump all the rocks into the refining trailer and youve got it. alternatively, a crane that can switch between mining mode and pickup mode would be awesome, and to make that work, just make a roof that opens rather than the side. either way, those are my ideas
my vision of this trailer is - there is a hatch on top of it, on the highest point there is attached a lever that rotates, extends forward and than extends an arm down with a drill bit and some kind of bulldozer hook thing, so you crush rocks with a drill, than collect them with a hook, move it over a trailer and drop them in it, and than refine
If you build a scoop on the bulldozer you might be able to lift rocks over the edge of the grate/door. You'd probably need a heavy counterbalance though
You should definitely try to make a crane like arm on the back of the trailer to pick up the rocks. You could try to make it with pistons to get additional reach on the arm.
I agree with your second option, replacing your little pusher vehicle. I say you need a Bobcat e85 excavator with the claw-scoop attachment and front plow. You can have the scoop and your drill on the end of the arm and rotate them on the arm to switch which you use. I know the seat is limited in the number of things it can control, but I think you're up to the task of simplifying the controls with timers, sensors, and under-engineering the design.
Maybe switch out the door blocks for a couple of ramps so there's no lip to go over, and just make the loading vehicle bigger and heavier, maybe put the grabbers on pistons so you can pinch the rocks and lift them a tiny bit off the ground to move them.
here some suggestions from me 1. make the trailer using wood, therefore the trailer is less heavy than extruded metal blocks 2. make some kind of crane system the same like farmer cage crane system. 3. attach the drill and crane system to the back of your trailer. 4. it far more convenience, if you can attach drill to the crane system as well that's all from me...
Think infinifactory. An arm on the side that pulls out 90° at the end have clamps that you can control from the seat and they flip -180° and drop from the top into the same mechanism and instead of clicking on each button you can have it hooked to the 5-9 keys
Great build kAN! you should weld your double wishbone suspension vehicle to the back of your trailer and add a bulldozer pushing mechanism to push the stone into your trailer! ;)
Second option sounds way better with a driller and a rock collection bucket that can drop it in the refiner. Its just they are so heavy it could glitch a lot with more than a couple in it.
Imo the crane idea would be great and would make your trailer awesome, since you could have a more vertical setup = more rocks at once. what about a crane with the suspension glitch and a big storage in the back, like that you line up with the rocks and with un button it puts it in the storage, once full you line you up with the trailer and with one button it loads up the trailer . great stuff, so much ideas now !!! thank you
What this really needs is a big, heavy bulldozer on a second flatbed behind the grinder trailer. For extra bonus points, make the trailer have a ramp for the bulldozer to drive up.
Took a bit to do the calculations, but a chest can hold 8680 blocks. The refinery itself can hold another 256 blocks, but will stop at 250 do to multiple of 10. Collectors are another 500 blocks. This means the trailer can have over 9000 blocks on it from a single run.
Pretty sure the issue with pushing the rocks is there's a problem with inertia and certain items in the game. Stuff just becomes "stuck" to the ground for some reason and can't be pushed around. I have issues with moving the caged farmers around occasionally, they just "stick" to the ground. Your idea of using some kind of front-end loader is probably the best idea. Sill not sure why you're not just using controllers to power your drills. One controller upgraded to level 2 powering 2 bearings is enough to power a drill so it will do its job. I'm yet to see any of the TH-camrs I watch power their drills/saw blades with controllers.
Hey kan, have an awesome bulldozer modification idea, make the claw of the bulldozer reach its own back to make it have its own storage area so when its full you can dump it in the refiner
I think you could take the little bulldozer and just add pistons to the side plates, because what i noticed was the rocks aren't heavy, the just have a lot of friction.
Change the refinery into a top loader and have a vehicle for gathering the rocks with a crane. The vehicle could be a front loaded dump truck with a crane and then put a collapsible ramp on the rear. The ramps from the top of a warehouse should be perfect for that.
Or perhaps even better. A small truck that picks up the rocks with a crane. Have the side door move up with a piston. Have the small truck align with the hole in the side of the trailer and just push the rocks in to the side. That way you can have more ground clearance.
When you make the trailer again you can make the loader on the back of the truck like the caged framers trailer. I would keep the side door as it can be useful in some cases and put a top door on the top
I thick you should make the little pusher be a mix of a forklift/bulldozer to move the rocks and I think it will improve the Weight issue but also the speech
Why not add a paddle that makes the rocks roll forwards onto your dozer. It will move them easier and also provide the much needed lift for getting the rocks up the ramp. Make sure you fine tune the speed though... We don't need flying rocks yet we don't want it too slow as that will make it well... Slower XD
Oh btw I'm not a huge streamer yet (and I may never be) but I would love to do a collaboration stream with you if you are willing. (My stream is on twitch and I'm nightb49)
put a shovel arm parallel to the door (it could be the door it self), so you just need to push the rocks in front of the door in a resemble distance and the shovel arm will drag the rock inside its belly
Make ramp longer, so its all way to the ground. I would even considered flat(90 degrees corner), ramp that turn 180, so it will not roll back. But pushing rock on block can be tricky. About loader its harder because those big rock blocks are heavy as hell. Lifting them up is going to be hard. Catching them between two pistons(or bending arms) could work, but that will be more work than just pushing them. Make your loader block or two wider, so big rock fit perfectly inside. That should help pushing it without bouncing on top. Make it height adjustable, because terrain can be bad and if theres gap then its more likely bounce on top.
Dude. Keep this idea! Just make a better bull dozer type vehicle! I love doing this kind of stuff. Totally not the most efficiant, but hella fun. Maybe make a dozer that can pick up the pieces and dump them from the top into your trailer. It will remove the side door issue. But, then again, you would need to make a much bigger little dozer. I dunno. I know you can make something awesome.
How about borrowing a couple ideas from Alaska gold rush and Squiddy? Use Squiddy's conveyor belt idea and Parker's Frankenstein conveyor idea. Build the conveyor onto the truck so you can load the conveyor and it can load the hopper it doesn't have to be all that big
what i would do is make a claw to grab the rocks then place them in a trailer with pistons and bearings that push one end of the trailer up and pistons to push the rocks out into a hole/grinder at base (must be tall enough hole and flat enough surface to work ok) and then move on while that does it's job.
Upgrade the trailer so it has a crane that can lift up the rocks and mine them at the same time. After mining them, you could pick them up with the same crane and throw them through the top
More! More! More content, kAN!!! Today I've build double wishbone-suspension car. As I'm totally n00b, your creations are a great tutorial how to do things in this game.
Part of the problem with your dozer is that the friction is too high on the "forks". Something you might be able to do is attach rollers on the pushing edge so that the rock won't grip the plow. Another possibility is to have wheels on the plow and power those to force the rock to roll in the direction you want.
from my experience the resource collector has to be in front or near the front of the refinery, id be surprised if your right hand side resource collector feeds the refinery at all. i love the trash compactor, very star wars :)
Turkish Viking (1) pusher is too light, it will get pushed around, especially when big rocks brake. I have big mining vehicle 4 big tires on rotating bearing, 8 rotating bearings, total 32 big wheel drive, and it still pushes my vehicle back a little when big rocks brake, even if i hold forward. welding to ground is best strategy to not get pushed back, but his pistons get pushed around, because they are weak.
i'd suggest something that has a bucket that can lift and dump the blocks into the top of itself, like a dump truck, then make the dump truck bed lift to dump into the grinder trailer. snag all in 1 go, dump all in 1 go
Hey kAN, you inspired my cousin and I to get this game. We live 8 hours away from each other, and it's been great using this game to keep in touch. Regarding the bulldozer not working that great, you should build another arm for the mining arm. One with a drill, and another with a grabber to actually pickup and drop the rocks into the trailer. That would be awesome
There are ramps you can get on top of the warehouses, use them for the bulldozer/bucket? Also if you could somehow angle a creation so you could push rocks into an open pit of drills, I feel you would have a better time.
Bryce Drew exactly what I was thinking! The small ramps (the short ones at the top of the warehouse-ramp combo). And then have something with pistons and bearings to pull the rock onto the ramp of the bulldozer, kind of like a rake...
I feel like an idiot not thinking about welding my mining arm to blocks on the ground. I love the idea, absolutely stealing the concept and building my own 😂
this needs more hype thats actually pretty cool
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You can put a bearing on the solid side of the resource collector.
Scrap man builds “ I need thousands of concrete blocks”
Kan builds “give me all the controllers and I’ll make it compact”
Because hes making hes base not builds like this
I've had much better luck mining with the drills running at a low speed. They bounce around less and grind far more consistently, plus they use less fuel.
normally, the power slider doesn't affect consumption, i've done a lot of testing some months ago and max power and minimum power on any level of GAS engine ( I'VE ONLY TESTED GAS DONT INSULT IF IT'S DEIFFERENT WITH ELEC) stops at the exact same time.
level 5 controllers is the best. consistency
I spin my drills with my hammer cause I'm too lazy to make a vehicle.
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power slider certainly does affect consumption because mass is taken into effect. the more power you have the faster it spins the bearings, this consumes more power to go faster. makes perfect sense and the math in the gas engine script itself states this as such. speed isn't free.
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I too enjoy grinding on rocks in my trailer.
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I would: A) put lights in the roof of the trailer so you can see what's going on inside during the night; and B) make a crane on top of the trailer, perhaps where you had space for the bulldozer. You could also make the door be on the roof and move the proposed lights to the floor, this way you can load the rocks from the top of the trailer.
If the mining crane was on the trailer the trailer would move too much
@@ghst1376 he could put stabilizing legs that fold out, similar to those on firetrucks.
True but maybe scrap mechanic physics won't allow that
When you do the opening on top, then you can make the side door out of glass, so you can still see through
Loved the Video too :)
Personally I'd build a claw arm similar to the farmer collecter for picking up rocks. Lose the drawbridge door, and trigger the pusher and drills with sensors so you don't have to think about order of operations, you can just get straight back to picking up a new rock.
Mount a crane on the tailer at the back with a grapple on it and the next to it mount a arm with the drill head one all controlled from one seat on crane at back of trailer saves time loading and also on multiple vehicles and steps
I have kind of tried to do this, but the pistons that holds things up is far to weak to make it work consistently
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Hey man you should build an ATV (four wheeler) for moving around and have a small trailer on it for storage
he does have an ATV
@coler154 no he doesn’t and FIREYTHRASH has a great idea
coler154 he only has a buggy for now
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Love your vids man you make my day every time I watch your vids
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Build a rv (transportable base) so you can work on long project and not have to go back to your base
This idea is underated
That is such a good idea
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Piston powered RV, too.
So infinite travel and all that, he would need to build a craft bot, cook bot, a refinery bot and all that
i'm loving the trailer a lot.
The little bulldozer didn't get the job done but i think you got the right idea with the Loader.
If it were me, i wouldn't change the trailer at all, i would simply improve on, or change the bulldozer to something that works better and that's it.
The trailer is perfect as is, even with the side door.
Was at a trade show once and saw a robot arm that was using several tools. Tools were mounted in a star pattern and the fixture on the end of the arm would rotate depending on what tool is needed so that same arm could stamp the part number, stamp part info, and then cut the part to size.
I think a similar idea would work great on this mining trailer: one arm mounted to the trailer itself that has a drill or can flip the end around for a grabber.
kAN good job making all of your builds, one of the most experienced people out there on Scrap Mechanic.
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I wish they had angled blocks so you could make a better ramp and a scoop for your mini dozer. So here's an idea, for your dozer maybe put a small floor and some rotors on the dozing part to lift it? Allows you too change the angle of the dozer's pusher and a floor to actually scoop the chunks and lift them of the ground. Maybe some front grabbers that swing in from the front to push the rocks into the scoop?
You could convert the pusher to pinch the rocks, extend a pole or two under it in case it slips and then lift the pinchers up like a forklift. Will need more weight on the back but this way you don't need to entirely shred the cute pusher idea.
You really are good at minturized efficiency. Every build exercises my eyebrows quite a bit XD.
Use a single switch for the drills and wood wall.
Use some ramps on the outside door to be more flush with the ground.
Idea: make a light pickup for transporting light transport
Edit: I know, not a very creative idea, but I'm sure can Kan can make it interesting
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Hey you should go find my comment it is an idea of a ATV with a small trailer for storage
He's prob gonna see this and go" Oh cool hey i know! I will build some sci fi transport
I think the way to go about the mini bulldozer situation is to make a scooping vehicle that has a bottom layer + walls which can be pushed into the actual grinder itself. It'll save time, require less effort, and overall make pife easier.
Also, put stuff on a max spinning L.5 Controller instead of engines on Loop, it saves fuel for more important scenarios
Love your content, keep it up
It's definitely possible to push multiple rocks with a bigger vehicle. Just bulk that up with some higher-tier concrete, widen the wheel base and the blade and put some slanted"wedge" pieces (base extension or small steel bracket, from road security checkpoints outside warehouses) on the bottom of the blade so you don't drive over them. The excavator/grappling crane sounds good, as long as it can grab multiple rocks and isn't too slow. A more powerful front loader/dozer would work great with the current trailer, especially if you also put slanted parts on the end of the ramp.
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Get rid of the drawbridge style, downwards-opening door and make the trailer sit as close to the ground as possible. Then put the hitch pin and trailer wheels on pistons so you can raise the trailer to move it without it dragging on the ground.
Edit: Make a replica _Killdozer_ and use it as you rock mover. That would be epic
You should put that drill onto the Little bulldozer and builen on the back of the trailer a Little garage with a ramp to go to the ground and close the garage and in the garage you can weld him for extra safety
If you have the piston stop a little short, you could use sensors ganged to an OR gate to activate the drills - they'll only turn on when there's something to crush.
The bigger problem I find is filling the collectors - a single refiner can't keep up. It's the heaviest thing on the trailer, though.
My current go-to is to have a vehicle with drills on the front and arm on pistons go up and over the rock and pull it in like giving it a hug. A few extra blocks keep the stone in and a collector gobbles it all up.
I think a simple fix for the bulldozer would be wedges along the bottom edge of the blade, cause the biggest problem (aside from not pushing much) is you kept driving over them on the ramp. Robot arm is probably the way to go, tho if they're that heavy it'll have to be really sturdy. Top-loading, of course, but maybe with a latchable lid to keep them from bouncing out?
Maybe the minidozer dont need a picker but the refinery trailer needed one. The minidozer does its job which is to push the rocks. You can create an automatic robot arm to pick up the rocks like garbage trucks pick up massive garbage bins
for scooping up the rocks, use the ramp pieces, that you can take from the rooftop of a warehouse. The rooftop is not part of the warehouse complex, gameplay wise, so you can basically take with you all building blocks, that you can disassemble there.
I made something similar to this in my world cause I hated the whole idea of a full drill/refinery on one vehicle. So, here’s what I found out during my R&D.
1. I made a front end loader that scoops up the rocks by lowering the bucket and the sending out a grapple to pull the rock in as I tilt the bucket. You need the puller to lock the rock into the bucket so you can go faster. But it take practice to know how to position each rock to scoop them.
2. There are 3 tiers of rocks.
Tier 1 - First break, Very Heavy
Tier 2 - 2nd break, Heavy
Tier 3 - Raw rod, medium
This is important to how heavy your loader will need to be to maneuver the rocks around. Remember, this is a front end loader. The goal is to break the node down to the Tier 1 and pick it up and drop it into the grinder. So having enough counter weight is key.
3. I put a drill on the back that runs off 3 bearings and a controller so it is long but, I used the counter weights from the big factories to help with weight. FREE GRINDING!
4. The electric engine is nice as it adds torque to get the bucket under the rocks. I added the small wedges to the front to make teeth so the rocks will roll up much easier. The only problem with this is that when you turn the engine too high it wants to flip when you stop, this is the down flaw to using electric. I wish they would add a low and high mode for this engine. That way you can swap between speed and torque. THIS WOULD BE A GAME CHANGER.
5. I use a 4 wheel triangle shape system to have better handling. The two front wheels are on no suspension and the rear middle/side-by-side wheels have suspension. This helps with taking off and stoping. It prevents it from tilting forward when under a load. And allows for better control with the electric motor.
Feel free to ask any questions, I will try and answer what I can. I will try and upload it to the steam shop so it can be played around with.
Need to use the small ramp pieces on the end of the door should help pushing the rocks in
Mark peeler had an idea for an rv, but i think you should have food storage in the nose of the truck for the same reason. I remember that you removed the food depositing system from the truck, so I think that you could have quite a bit of storage space for even spuds!
I like the individual machine approach.
A big box that goes over the rocks and then drills down from the top is the most efficient way to mine. The walls keep everything in and the drills crush it. If the whole roof moves you can put collectors and refinery bots on top to collect everything.
How about inserting the rocks from below the trailer? Lika a cage on pistons, that seals the rocks, when you lower it. So you just need to drive over the rocks, or push them below the cage
maybe get a downscaled version of the thing you have for the farmers. probably just slap a claw on the crusher trailer and use that to pick up rocks and put them in directly, by cutting a hole out the top.
you should put the potted blooming cactuses on the bottom of the legs for your trailers so they stay in place better
I built a refinery with a large gantry crane capable of grabbing and lifting those huge bolders that break off into the back of my crusher. Those Big boulders that break off are really heavy and so satisfying to watch it get pushed into my drills and into the refinebot
I'd combine the robot arm and the crane trailer approach with this one, making the drills crush vertically
I'd make something like a hopper with drills at the bottom and resource collectors around them and then a crane gantry that'd pick the whole giant rock of the ground and put it in the grinder.
Adding to the side door with some sort of scraper that pulls items onto the door and closes the door loading them into the grinder area could work. Then you just need to push the big stone into the collection area near the side door.
If you can get the rocks close you could have an arm go out from the trailer, drop down, then pull the rocks into the maw of the beast. Also could double joint the ramp so it folds down flat to the ground.
Your dozer may be fine, have it pinch the sides and have the blade raise, perhaps use tires as a grip if the blocks have trouble grabbing.
Use the small warehouse ramps at the bottom of the trailer door to make it easier to push the rocks into the trailer... :-)
Oh dude! I just had a thought. Have a dedicated Tractor for that Trailer, that is the Bucket Loader. Drop the trailer, break the initial rock formation, then dump it all in. While it's processing the stone/metal, move to the next formation. Lather, rinse repeat.
use a piston to push the side door onto the ground flat, then load all the stones onto that, then close the door to dump all the rocks into the refining trailer and youve got it. alternatively, a crane that can switch between mining mode and pickup mode would be awesome, and to make that work, just make a roof that opens rather than the side. either way, those are my ideas
my vision of this trailer is - there is a hatch on top of it, on the highest point there is attached a lever that rotates, extends forward and than extends an arm down with a drill bit and some kind of bulldozer hook thing, so you crush rocks with a drill, than collect them with a hook, move it over a trailer and drop them in it, and than refine
Genius!
If you build a scoop on the bulldozer you might be able to lift rocks over the edge of the grate/door. You'd probably need a heavy counterbalance though
Scrap mechanic devs: *Made the game a survival game*
Kan: *Turns a survival game to a trucking game*
You should definitely try to make a crane like arm on the back of the trailer to pick up the rocks. You could try to make it with pistons to get additional reach on the arm.
I agree with your second option, replacing your little pusher vehicle. I say you need a Bobcat e85 excavator with the claw-scoop attachment and front plow. You can have the scoop and your drill on the end of the arm and rotate them on the arm to switch which you use. I know the seat is limited in the number of things it can control, but I think you're up to the task of simplifying the controls with timers, sensors, and under-engineering the design.
Maybe switch out the door blocks for a couple of ramps so there's no lip to go over, and just make the loading vehicle bigger and heavier, maybe put the grabbers on pistons so you can pinch the rocks and lift them a tiny bit off the ground to move them.
here some suggestions from me
1. make the trailer using wood, therefore the trailer is less heavy than extruded metal blocks
2. make some kind of crane system the same like farmer cage crane system.
3. attach the drill and crane system to the back of your trailer.
4. it far more convenience, if you can attach drill to the crane system as well
that's all from me...
You can get a few of the short ramps from the warehouse roof, to make scaling the door/ramp with the dozer easier.
you should make like an arm that has the drill in it and then you can like pick the rock up and drop it in the trailer :)
@Kan Gaming Forget the bulldozer, use an Arm that holds and cuts the stone then lifts it into the trailer.
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Think infinifactory. An arm on the side that pulls out 90° at the end have clamps that you can control from the seat and they flip -180° and drop from the top into the same mechanism and instead of clicking on each button you can have it hooked to the 5-9 keys
I been looking alot of mining stuff lately , and the only think i have is a horse shoe shave with 5 dillers and it works like a dream
Great build kAN! you should weld your double wishbone suspension vehicle to the back of your trailer and add a bulldozer pushing mechanism to push the stone into your trailer! ;)
Second option sounds way better with a driller and a rock collection bucket that can drop it in the refiner. Its just they are so heavy it could glitch a lot with more than a couple in it.
Imo the crane idea would be great and would make your trailer awesome, since you could have a more vertical setup = more rocks at once.
what about a crane with the suspension glitch and a big storage in the back, like that you line up with the rocks and with un button it puts it in the storage,
once full you line you up with the trailer and with one button it loads up the trailer .
great stuff, so much ideas now !!! thank you
What this really needs is a big, heavy bulldozer on a second flatbed behind the grinder trailer. For extra bonus points, make the trailer have a ramp for the bulldozer to drive up.
Took a bit to do the calculations, but a chest can hold 8680 blocks. The refinery itself can hold another 256 blocks, but will stop at 250 do to multiple of 10. Collectors are another 500 blocks.
This means the trailer can have over 9000 blocks on it from a single run.
You should of set the Truck up facing your work area so you could of used it's lights
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Pretty sure the issue with pushing the rocks is there's a problem with inertia and certain items in the game. Stuff just becomes "stuck" to the ground for some reason and can't be pushed around. I have issues with moving the caged farmers around occasionally, they just "stick" to the ground. Your idea of using some kind of front-end loader is probably the best idea. Sill not sure why you're not just using controllers to power your drills. One controller upgraded to level 2 powering 2 bearings is enough to power a drill so it will do its job. I'm yet to see any of the TH-camrs I watch power their drills/saw blades with controllers.
I’ve been waiting to see how you handle this build. I’ve seen everyone else’s and it just ain’t living up to my hopes
Every time, I see you upload I stopped everything I do and I go watch your videos. So many great ideas!
thats a great idea to go with friends and go mining together!
Hey kan, have an awesome bulldozer modification idea, make the claw of the bulldozer reach its own back to make it have its own storage area so when its full you can dump it in the refiner
I think for sure you should build a vehicle to pick up the rocks and put them in the top next!
other scrap mechanics: makes efficient and non-realistic builts
Kan: Most inefficient builts, but realistic.
not scrap man
I think you could take the little bulldozer and just add pistons to the side plates, because what i noticed was the rocks aren't heavy, the just have a lot of friction.
Change the refinery into a top loader and have a vehicle for gathering the rocks with a crane.
The vehicle could be a front loaded dump truck with a crane and then put a collapsible ramp on the rear. The ramps from the top of a warehouse should be perfect for that.
Or perhaps even better. A small truck that picks up the rocks with a crane. Have the side door move up with a piston. Have the small truck align with the hole in the side of the trailer and just push the rocks in to the side. That way you can have more ground clearance.
When you make the trailer again you can make the loader on the back of the truck like the caged framers trailer. I would keep the side door as it can be useful in some cases and put a top door on the top
I thick you should make the little pusher be a mix of a forklift/bulldozer to move the rocks and I think it will improve the Weight issue but also the speech
Why not add a paddle that makes the rocks roll forwards onto your dozer. It will move them easier and also provide the much needed lift for getting the rocks up the ramp.
Make sure you fine tune the speed though... We don't need flying rocks yet we don't want it too slow as that will make it well... Slower XD
Oh btw I'm not a huge streamer yet (and I may never be) but I would love to do a collaboration stream with you if you are willing. (My stream is on twitch and I'm nightb49)
I can't really see why you don't just leave the drill attached to the trailer.
Because you have to apply some pressure to the rock otherwise it bounces off, and the trailer would slide around so much it'd be a pain.
@@stevepittman3770 weld the trailer.
@@Blaez_Dev That defeats the whole purpose, so thats why he welds the drill to the ground instead.
@@Blaez_Dev If you're gonna weld things, he can just weld the drill like he has been and it's easier to move around than a trailer.
put a shovel arm parallel to the door (it could be the door it self), so you just need to push the rocks in front of the door in a resemble distance and the shovel arm will drag the rock inside its belly
Nice idea can’t wait to see the finished product
Make ramp longer, so its all way to the ground. I would even considered flat(90 degrees corner), ramp that turn 180, so it will not roll back. But pushing rock on block can be tricky.
About loader its harder because those big rock blocks are heavy as hell. Lifting them up is going to be hard. Catching them between two pistons(or bending arms) could work, but that will be more work than just pushing them. Make your loader block or two wider, so big rock fit perfectly inside. That should help pushing it without bouncing on top. Make it height adjustable, because terrain can be bad and if theres gap then its more likely bounce on top.
Put a piston on the little dozer to give it the ability to pinch the rocks then lift it up like it already does
This creation is pretty cool, Like the unique take on solving this problem :) would love to see the next version
Dude. Keep this idea! Just make a better bull dozer type vehicle! I love doing this kind of stuff. Totally not the most efficiant, but hella fun. Maybe make a dozer that can pick up the pieces and dump them from the top into your trailer. It will remove the side door issue. But, then again, you would need to make a much bigger little dozer. I dunno. I know you can make something awesome.
How about borrowing a couple ideas from Alaska gold rush and Squiddy? Use Squiddy's conveyor belt idea and Parker's Frankenstein conveyor idea. Build the conveyor onto the truck so you can load the conveyor and it can load the hopper it doesn't have to be all that big
I haven't watch u for so long and I can't believe you still have ur garage 👍👍
what i would do is make a claw to grab the rocks then place them in a trailer with pistons and bearings that push one end of the trailer up and pistons to push the rocks out into a hole/grinder at base (must be tall enough hole and flat enough surface to work ok) and then move on while that does it's job.
Upgrade the trailer so it has a crane that can lift up the rocks and mine them at the same time. After mining them, you could pick them up with the same crane and throw them through the top
More! More! More content, kAN!!!
Today I've build double wishbone-suspension car. As I'm totally n00b, your creations are a great tutorial how to do things in this game.
Part of the problem with your dozer is that the friction is too high on the "forks". Something you might be able to do is attach rollers on the pushing edge so that the rock won't grip the plow. Another possibility is to have wheels on the plow and power those to force the rock to roll in the direction you want.
You should carry glowsticks for when you're showing something off on camera and night comes around. Keep up the good content man
from my experience the resource collector has to be in front or near the front of the refinery, id be surprised if your right hand side resource collector feeds the refinery at all. i love the trash compactor, very star wars :)
hey kan you could always just put a scoop on the front of the semi that is detachable because the semi is already plenty heavy
Two advices:
1: weld the drill to the pusher
2: add a little grabber gate to the pusher
Turkish Viking (1) pusher is too light, it will get pushed around, especially when big rocks brake. I have big mining vehicle 4 big tires on rotating bearing, 8 rotating bearings, total 32 big wheel drive, and it still pushes my vehicle back a little when big rocks brake, even if i hold forward. welding to ground is best strategy to not get pushed back, but his pistons get pushed around, because they are weak.
make the pipe mesh out of glass when you redesign the bulldozer or figure out something else because you can't rlly see thru well.
i'd suggest something that has a bucket that can lift and dump the blocks into the top of itself, like a dump truck, then make the dump truck bed lift to dump into the grinder trailer. snag all in 1 go, dump all in 1 go
Hey kAN, you inspired my cousin and I to get this game. We live 8 hours away from each other, and it's been great using this game to keep in touch.
Regarding the bulldozer not working that great, you should build another arm for the mining arm. One with a drill, and another with a grabber to actually pickup and drop the rocks into the trailer. That would be awesome
Use cactus blocks on the grabbers because it has the most friction
There are ramps you can get on top of the warehouses, use them for the bulldozer/bucket? Also if you could somehow angle a creation so you could push rocks into an open pit of drills, I feel you would have a better time.
Bryce Drew exactly what I was thinking! The small ramps (the short ones at the top of the warehouse-ramp combo). And then have something with pistons and bearings to pull the rock onto the ramp of the bulldozer, kind of like a rake...
You can make a 2 in 1 robot arm, that xan drill the rocks and cvan pick them up, so you don't need a seperate drill or bulldozer.
I feel like an idiot not thinking about welding my mining arm to blocks on the ground.
I love the idea, absolutely stealing the concept and building my own 😂