Sonic Boom - Boom or Bust (Zero Punctuation)
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This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Sonic Boom.
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The funny thing is that the QA department said to game grumps
"Yeah we gave the devs a laundry list of things they needed to fix, but they seemed to think otherwise"
I'd put money on one of two scenarios for this game- Executive told them they had to kick out the door for the Christmas rush or the developers were IP cowboys with no respect for the franchise and wanted it done and over with already. Regardless, SEGA has no idea of what to do with that franchise, with such random ups and downs with every release.
+nomobobby If you watch the DYKG for Sonic Boom, you'll learn that the developers were screwed over left and right since the publishers got a Wii U exclusive deal, hardware that was inferior to the other next gen concoles and couldn't run a stock Cryengine.
Well then get a last gen engine or build one to order. Point is if they cared, it wouldn't look and run look like fat ass on a treadmill. Complete with more bugs than an acre of rain forest.
@@WaffleWiz being screwed by a deal isn't enough to make a game bad. It wilm certainly limitate its performance, but the Wii U isn't a brick, games can run fine on it
What was the real issue was the incompetence of the studios. I remember that the one who did the coop aspect of Sonic Boom has 2 other projects under their name: a very crappy FPS game, and the first attempt of solo player star citizen (yes, that star citizen) tried and which never got released.
The publishers might have not helped, but it's unfair to just blame them for everything. Alright games can be made by competent team under over-controlling publishers, but Sonic Boom isn't alright. It's bad.
Erutan Egaro The issue isn't that the Wii U wasn't strong enough to run Cry Engine, the issue was that no builds of Cry Engine made to run on the Wii U existed.
LOL
"What makes you think I'm this stupid, Sonic Boom?"
"You bought _me_."
"Touche."
I liked this video just for that joke. xD
i busted out laughing at that line...why i guess it was unexpected
Zachary Erickson Hey Listen! Alternatively, it just might have been a reminder of a certain fairy...
Joke's on you Sonic Boom, I only downloaded the demo!... Which I don't know how it makes it slightly better about myself not buying the game but screw it!
"Sonic boom!" And Sonic exploded.
Messy.
And boom goes the dynamite! I'll see myself out, now...
He should go home and be a family man
The bandages help keep him together. Morbid.
danehb89 *Insert Guile's theme
"My hammer should break this without any problem!" Said most people after they bought this game.
And then the hammer breaks, somehow...
Shut up and take my like, you bastard.
Me: Sees the likes on this comment.
Also Me: Does not reply with the first thing that comes to mind, because as soon as one more person likes the comment, it will no longer make sense.
"What makes you think I'm this stupid?"
"You bought me!"
"Touché."
I know what the bandages are for: They're symbolic for the current state of the Sonic Franchise.
1:37 “The far more reasonable explanation is that the games were both developed by syphilitic gibbons!” That line cracks me up more than anything for some reason.
4:35 I can confirm this. I watched a Lets Play. One of the dialogue options for a character who has the ability to break walls is actually, "This wall looks rather weak." Like... Wow... Really now...?
And Knuckles has a gimick where he climbs. When he starts climbing, he says, "Climbing's the best way to travel~." It's just, "I am doing (Insert name of activity here), how cool!" It's awful...
"SANIC HAS IMPROVED OVER THE YEARS!!!" -Sammyclassicsonicfan, 2013.
Wonder what he's thinking now that this game has come out...
coolcat001100 “We all make mistakes sometimes. Sonic will bounce back.”
Sonic was on a nice upward slope until this game came out.
Alex Shannon Part of Sonic’s biggest failing is his inability to find relevance in this day and age. Sonic Forces should have been the ideal game to fix this problem, but shunting your custom character off the screen pretty much defeated the whole purpose.
Just like Sisyphus.
Freaking love the ending
"What makes you think that I'm this stupid Sonic Boom?"
*"You bought me"*
I died xD♥
Sums up an old school friend (now in his 30's) who still buys new sonic games when he should focus on finding a job.
I'll tell you why Sonic games getting made. BECAUSE IT'S SONIC. With every new release; the world wants to know, how did they fuck up this time?
This is the third time I've seen your comment on this page and I haven't even clicked "Show more."
What's the jig?
I don't know. TH-cam glitches out with comments sometimes.
"What makes you think I'm that stupid, Sonic Boom?"
_"YOU BOUGHT ME!"_
*_"Touché"_*
Best quote:
"What makes you think I'm this stupid, Sonic Boom?"
"You bought me!"
"What makes you think I'm this stupid"
"you bought me"
😂😂😂
The ultimate burn.
touche.
Absolutely stellar.
2:54
If I didn't know this came out seven years ago, I'd be surprised that he seemingly made a reference to High Guardian Spice.
What a weird coincidence that there would be a show where the four main characters are named Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme.
It might be a reference to the song Scarborough Saint Fair
I'm concerned that one day, an advanced, alien civilization will find the ruins of our race, and amongst the ruins they'll find shit like Sonic Boom & the works of Adam Sandler.
Then they'll keep bringing us back for the satisfaction of killing us over and over.
As long as the last piece of humanity isn’t the emoji movie and bubsy 3D then I think we’ll be fine
@@aiden4917 if they bring us back we can show them better stuff
Well at least, both of them lead to one of the funniest content on TH-cam, Snapcube's Fandubs
"John, Paul, George and Ringo" and "Dr Eggrobotmannik" made me laugh the most.
At least the Sonic Boom TV series has some quality writing and genuine humor.
@@WiiManEliteisn't that how most comedy cartoon lasts anyway?
@@BintanginTaya 3 or maybe 4, unless it's Total Drama.
it's a shame the cryengine was wasted on this when it was used for stuff like far cry crysis crysanthenum and jesus cry-st superstar and those last two were impeccable
Its a shame such good engines are poisoned by what they're tied too. Like how Unity has become the engine for lazy green light users and now considered the engine for the creatively bankrupt. And good projects with Unity are now tinted in the eyes of steam users despite the good work done in making it highly versatile engine for roughly half million platforms that the industry develops for.
A fucking egg with a mustache in a flying teacup. I love it.
Also, Yahtzee should review Tropical Freeze, a good Nintendo game that got hardly any attention.
Yeah, Sonic Generations has been absolutely delightful for me as a fan of the Genesis titles. It's not a great game technically, but it's self aware enough that it knows what the player wants and skips everything else. Definitely a step in the right direction. Then they did this...
Maybe this one might have been good if someone had told big red button that the game would be a wii u exclusive before they picked an engine that wasn't at all compatible with the wii u. Also, Cry engine is not designed for the sort of gameplay they were asking it to handle. a rep for big red button said that they were fighting the engine during the entire development cycle.
Finally! Someone other than me says it!
Not counting all of the freaking mummification of the characters, I really like how the new Sonic character models differentiate themselves from eachother. Before it was just "Everyone's Sonic-shape except Tails is a little shorter, Amy has boobs maybe, Rouge DEFINITELY has boobs maybe, and the only TRUE exceptions to this rule are a cat that EVERYONE hates and 2/3 Team Chaotix members."
Its kind of brilliant of making the assumption that a player is an idiot on the basis of him buying the game
a haiku dedicated to this episode:
sonic is quite bad
zero punctuation truth
it's snowing on mount fuji
The last line should have 5 syllables
Bad day?
+Sailor Italy It's a Game Grumps joke. Don't worry, I'm sure a lot of other people wouldn't have gotten that, either.
Oh! Which episode was that from?
+Sailor Italy it was from sonic boom, near the end. Can't remember the number. But they were in some sort of thorny vine place as knuckles.
Can someone explain to me how Sonic has so many fanboys, I am genuinely curious, Sonic 1-3 were fantastic but he never had any sort of character, it was just running, and it was all downhill after that, so how in the world does he have so many fanboys.
that's just it, we love to run through his worlds. There is so much to see, as you blaze by. In some games you go by too fast to appreciate all the detail and love that went into the worlds...
and then you have sonic boom which has zippo creativity
Damian Freeman You missed the "in my opinion" on the end of that statement. You can't categorially say any game is bad (aside from maybe ET cause it crashed the games industry -_-). I've actually enjoyed some of the more recent ones as well. Sonic Unleashed had, in my opinion, a good story and sonic generations had all that wonderful platforming. None of them are perfect but I, personally, wouldnt go as far as to say "Sonic Team has tried and failed to make a good game"
I guess my comment is more towards the character, I see just as many fans of him as link or mario.
Damian Freeman I guess I'd be willing to call those games good for how they preform in the aspects they do well however it would take a balance of both done right for another great sonic game.
Damian Freeman I wouldn't be so sure about mario. All his top sellers are still is 2D platformers while things like super mario sunshine or paper mario and the thousand year door sold considerably less, though still a lot. The games industry often claims it wants innovation and then turns away when it's given to play the new fifa or new new new super mario bros new new 7 new :L
It genuinely blows my mind that Sonic is still a thing. Why the hell didn't he die out with the rest of the failed Mario-clone mascots in the 90's?
Remember Aero the Acro-bat, or Gex the lizard?...
... Nah, me neither!
Because Sonic was actually good.
WAS good.
i remember Areo, he was pretty cool. He needs a reboot, stat!
Gex... yeah never knew the guy
Crash Bandicoot. Now *there's* a gentleman in desperate need of some TLC!
Did you ever play Crash Team Racing? To this day I hold firm that it was better than Mario Cart, and I'll fist-fight anyone who disagrees!
sonic adventure 2 happened... man that was good
Two words: Bubsy Bobcat. Search on Jontron, if you havent seen it.
I laughed harder than I should have at referring to Sonic and his friends as parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme.
Nowadays I doubt you would be laughing
Merry Christmas Everyone also I feel sorry for the people who got this game
Wait, how can there be 382 likes if there are only 301+ people in the world?!
The same way that there can only be a handful of people stupid enough to post this moronic meme yet it somehow magically appears on almost every video on TH-cam.
justus pls...
justus4justice Get this hothead out of here!
Jaden pls
>:C
*Generations:* Excellent step up from Colors.
*Lost World:* Ok..... not as good but not bad...
*Sonic Boom:* SEGA WHAT DID YOU DO
I love this guy so much. Looking back at this video, there was one thing that never really sat well. One thing he said is “nobody buys a sonic game to play as one of his roommates.” That was a really funny line, but to be honest the multiple character aspect is half of what makes sonic games fun. The reason why it doesn’t sit well with me is because sonic team for some reason seems to be focusing on the audience that DOESNT like sonic rather than the audience that DOES. I really hope this changes in the future, because focusing on the people that actually like sonic is what will ultimately set him on the right path. This includes having multiple characters in 3d games again, giving play styles people have been asking for, and bring back elements people grew up with, such as the master emerald or the chaos.
Sonic Games based on the majority of opinions:
Sonic Games with the majority of peoplel liking them:
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic 3 and Knuckles
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Colors
Sonic Generations
Sonic Rush
Sonic Rush Adventure
Sonic CD
Sonic Games with the majority having mixed feelings
Sonic Heroes
Shadow the Hedgehog
Sonic 4 Episodes 1 and 2
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic Lost World
Sonic games with the majority hating the crap out of them
Sonic 06
Sonic and the Black Knight
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Sonic 3D Blast
Sonic Boom
Sonic 1 (Genesis Port on Gameboy)
Sonic R
Sonic Games too obscure to give a rating on
Sonic Lost Chronicles
Sonic the Fighters
Sonic Rivals 1 & 2
EpicManiac9000 Yeah, that surprisingly seems about right
Sonic Advance is pretty good.
Sonic Heroes?
The fact that this many Sonic games exist is depressing. Hooray for the penny wringers that run the world today *Cough* Saudi Arabia *Cough*
***** Sonic Riders too.That was fun. Didn't really need to be a sonic game, but it was fun nevertheless
What is it with Sonic games and being released before they're finished. Is this going to be a pattern? A few decent games for a few years, then "hey, let's release this game before we're halfway done so we can make it out in time for Christmas". There's a problem with that Sega. People buy a lot of games for the holidays, but a bad game still won't sell well. Just because Sonic goes fast doesn't mean your game development can be rushed to the point that your one single QA tester barely gets a chance to test the first level. I mean for God's sake. An infinite jump glitch? Especially one that can finish the game in an hour? That's just lazy.
Well at least we learned something........don't push the red button
Mason Clifton The BigRedButton
If it was only sonic games that are released half done i'd agree with you but it seems to be a growing thing where people let a game go out and then tell everyone they need to update the 1000 bugs they missed and then stumble around wondering why people are mad at them.
I don't even think they advertise sonic anymore, I barley see ads on him anywhere
Robert Shevlin I've seen too many for this game.
That ending dialogue exchange was great.
1:07 the foresight...
The thing that really baffles me about this is that the devs thought that,in a game where Sonic and his butt-buddies have to fuck about a giant open overworld for about 70% of it, they took away any sort of way to run fast......what the fuck were they thinking? It's like they wanted to make a shitty Mario clone instead of a Sonic game. And you know what? They succeeded.
Mario clone? I thought it was a pseudo Ratchet and Clank/ Jak and Daxter clone. Or is clone... CEPTION! DUUUUUUUURN! (credit to Hanz Zimmer).
Hasn't Sonic always been an average Mario clone? I would better define this as Sega not caring anymore about their mascot neither their customers. They can name a pile of shit Sonic and I'm 100% Sonic fanboys would still buy it.
***** Actually Sonic was made to mock Mario and his game design, not imitate it. Heck, their entire market strategy during the Genesis time boiled down to Sega does what Nintendon't type stuff.
Isaac Argesmith Oh yes but it's clear the basis was Mario with speed added to the mix. The marketing standpoint was mockery, on the flip side the design mindset was more of attempting to take Mario's design in a faster/edgier direction. When you think about Bubsy, it was a similar situation just worse.
***** Sonic's really nothing like Mario, heck they don't even look remotely similar. Also I still say the creators of Bubsy had no clue what they were doing and were doing drugs.
Anybody else watch the Game Grumps go through this game? ....it was magical :)
+Kyle Dare I swear I think Arin was going to kill himself from it, they found so many flawsssssss they should have been testing this game out before it was release.
+Kyle Dare Not a Game Grumps fan, but I will say I LOVED their editor just picking the game apart.
+TheBrianJ I think they have a separate series where Barry ( the editor) found so many flaws in just the opening sequence alone. People thought it was nitpicking but the flaws were way to many and in abundance it was like daaaaaamn I thought he was being harsh at first till I saw just how many they were.
I really hate you
I think sonic boom is bad
its snowing on mount fuji
Before I hit play, I'd just like to say how much I've been looking forward to this review. Thank you Yahtzee, and Happy Christmas.
That egg with just his mustache... Dammit! The subtle jokes are always the ones that hit me harder!
Another fine comic review Yahtzee...
HOWEVER
I feel it pertinent to mention that Ape Escape for the PS1 did require analogue sticks. I clearly remember renting it for a weekend, only to spend most of saturday failing to swim under a tutorial obstacle BECAUSE I'D NEVER HAD TO PUSH L3 BEFORE.
Having watched at least a 100 of your videos, this is my first criticism. Keep up the good work.
- Your friendly neighbourhood pedant
Sonic = Spongebob
I hope you people understand what I mean by this.
BulletTheBadass what that the new version of those characters are nothing like the originals? well at least sonic and sonic (boom) are from diferent univers
I guess, I was more referring to the fact that both of the properties should have died years ago.
Let me take a swing...
Both series started off strong with a competent crew and solid structure, held their success for a decent couple of years, and slowly began to spiral out of the air as determination and innovative design were replaced by sloppy half-baked concepts and jerkoffs with dollar signs in their eyes.
Could that be what you're digging at or is that just my depressed ass getting ahead of itself?
That's a pretty good description of it.
Well done, good sir.
BulletTheBadass I'd say nonsense. Sonic Colors and Generations were both great games, and were sequels to Sonic 06. Sonic Boom is a spin-off, not affecting anything in the main series, meaning it really doesn't count. It wasn't even created by Sonic Team.
I know someone who wanted to "try it out for himself." He bought the game at full price completely willing
LOLed at the monkeys, the imp mooing like a cow, a lot of imps getting bloodied to a pulp, and Sonic getting his bloody imprint face on a statue. Also, love the Beatles, Scarborough Fair and Sunset Boulevard references! :D
I feel in a typing mood right now.
Get rich everyone, here's my 2 cents;
*Apologies in advance for incoming textwall!*
Sega isn't too bad of a company, I mean really, they're not. But what they're doing to Sonic is unbearable. Capcom may come second best with Megaman, but I've never seen a games company treat their mascot and it's related games so poorly. Christ, their rival Nintendo treats both of them better than they do themselves!
And keeping on making more despicable sonic games is pointless because they barely sell enough to actually make a profit over it's ridicoulous investments.
What Sonic needs is not a new look or different game modes and new characters to have any kind of redemption.
It needs to do a reality check to it's core; What make Sonic games good? Discarding almost anything past 2000 immediatley, since those games simply weren't. You can't deny that while keeping a straight face, Sega.
( You too fans )
The earlier Sonic games were based on speed, showing off it's debut console. It's the same as all the other platformers, but with a lot more momentum, action and adrenaline. This has to be preserved, the player is required to stay alert, time their moves, and think fast to avoid obstacles and enemies.
The boring 'locked in a arena, mash buttons to defeat enemies' has no place with Sonic, it kills the momentum. Perhaps such a combat system might exist whilst Sonic still speeds along the tracks. Rolling up as a ball whilst running would, as he is a hedgehog, become a simple combat mechanic, retaining speed. Hell, look at the earlier Dr. Eggman boss battles. The scenery kept scrolling past, and you had to keep up in order to not fall behind of the boss.
Sonic is fast, and that means he doesn't just have to run in the game; the player must experience this too. In a ENJOYABLE WAY Sega, not putting the camera behind the player, blocking vision and throwing every possible hazard at you!
Design the game to feel speedy and requiring constant attention, where such attention is rewarded with better control of the flow and action and with more points, better looks at the scenery, short cuts, etc. Racing games might prove a good example. Slow platforming kills momentum too!
There's no need to 'go back to 2D' for this to work. It's about setting clear goals, thinking long and hard about core game design. If you want to start completely anew, that means disregarding any story, gameplay or character background of the game besides the original.
Sonic's source material might be another Mario clone of sorts, but so was Rayman; Glorious games, even today with Origins and Legends. Hell, even Kirby still stands and remains enjoybale or sometimes even challenging with it's very simplest of platforming and combat.
Sonic has been dead for years now, nothing came up to par with the fun people had with him first. He must either stay in his grave,or make only real, reasonable and at the very least acceptable games from here on out. Too bad Sega can earn money with other titles, otherwise they'd actually be forced to.
But if I were you, dear reader, who has endured my insufferable rambling up until now, I wouldn't be suprised if the next Sonic sucks just as much, don't expect anything but a pile of crap. Set the bar at it's lowest, and abandon hope. At least that'd make it more enjoyable if by divine intervention the opposite would be true next time.
My good sir, I am utterly confused that there are not more likes or replies. At least then it would mean more people paid attention to you. What you said is practically what every SEGA and Sonic fan (maybe even general gamers) needs to read. =)
I think Sega should also realize what made the older games fun. The fun gameplay, the great level design, and the fact that when you played as other characters, they could go through the same stuff Sonic could, but still played in their own unique way. Nice comment btw, and I do agree with you.
TheSovjetCat What you said is all well and good, but I still think Colors and Generations were still worth playing.
TheSovjetCat Holy shit TL;DR, but the conclusion summed up what you said so it's all good
You were pretty on the mark in your post, but I think there's one key thing you missed when talking about what makes Sonic games good. The reason the classic titles were so good wasn't just because they were fast, but because they made you EARN the ability to go fast, make you EARN your speed, and with this speed, you could use it to maintain the FLOW of the level's pace. These games were all about FLOW, and the mastery of the mechanics in order to achieve it, that being:
-Understanding the way the levels are designed thus allowing you to not only anticipate obstacles but find faster routes through skillful play
-Mastering Sonic's controls and using them in creative ways in order to get through the level.
This is a trait that the best Sonic games all share, the fact that the skill floor of these games were relatively low, but the skill ceiling was very high. The best Sonic games make the player see that there is always room for improvement, always room to finish this level faster, always room to time this jump better. Thus, these made these games insanely repayable. To illustrate this, there's a Sonic fan game that I play called Sonic Dimensions. It has no story and only 8 levels, all one act long. And yet despite it's short length in terms of how long it takes to finish, I estimate that I've probably put at least 40 hours into that game, because it's levels are that well made.
This, in my opinion is what makes Sonic games truly amazing (well the not-buggy and just generally bad ones anyway). They encourage the player to get better and better at the game, facilitating replayability as a result and allowing the player to get a more satisfying gameplay experience. THIS is the core of a good Sonic game. Sure other factors definitely matter, but this is the most important one.
Tl;dr: Sonic games are best when they're easy to learn, but hard to master, basically.
Sonic boom?
More like sonic? BOOOOOOOO!
Sonic Boourns
***** Such meta. Many noble.
he explode
The last joke... Why don't more people watch this? It's just comedy gold with gaming attached
Merry Christmas!
Silly Sonic, you spent years building your reputation up from Sonic 06, and what do you do? You blew it man, you blew it all up.
The real problem with Sega is that they rely too much on the Sonic games, and that's kind of really sad when they have a decent variety of franchises. The only games those other franchises have been shown nowadays are competitive games. You have all of these frachises Sega, yet you do nothing with them. The last game that Sega made that wasn't a Sonic game and had no mention of Sonic in it that I remember was Nights into Dreams, and that was all the way back on the Wii when it was still new.
Love the last line you bought me always gets me
Merry Christmas Escapist
"What makes you think I'm this stupid Sonic Boom?"
"You bought me!"
"TOUCHÉ!"
lol
Sonic Boom was not 5 years ago! It can’t be! It can’t have been that long ago since Arin and Dan we’re grumpily ripping this game apart! Time can’t go by that fast!
My heart fills with a little bit more of joy each time I see one of Yahtzee's Doctor Who references.
I don't mind the neckerchief, I don't mind the bandages, but every time I look at Knuckles I can't help but wonder where his neck went, which is saying a lot in a game series where the characters have never had necks!
Thank fuck! A Sonic review by Yahtzee that actually has LEGIT CRITICISM ABOUT THE FUCKING GAME instead of Yahtzee just ranting about the fanbase and repeatedly making the tired joke that "Sonic is dead lol" for a solid 5 minutes. Who knew, the secret to making a good review would be to ACTUALLY REVIEW THE FUCKING GAME. Seriously, just compare his Unleashed or Generations review to this one, you'll see in those reviews he only makes about 1 or 2 minor criticisms about the actual game itself.
GalaxyTrail did Sonic better with Freedom Planet than Big Red Button did with Sonic Boom.
The difference? One of them is an _indie developer_, the other is supposed *Naughty Dog employees.*
+Weegeesquare There is a reason as to why they're ex Naughty Dog employees.
*****
While the story was bad, I'd give it a C- in writing. Still much better than Boom's and 06's story which seem like bad fanfics written by 5 year olds. The stories in both those games were terrible.
Look, ramps!
We can use these as ramps!
Perfect video for Christmas... :)
What the fuck has happened to Sonic
*****
WHAT THE FUCK IS A SONIC?!
AdiG1 They make games, I think.
The fanbase
You say this like you've only just come to the realisation that sonic has been run into the ground, Sonic died a long long time ago and he's now the video game equivalent of a Tupac hologram.
ECL28E Oh no! I'm inexplicably inflating again!
Maybe I should clarify a few things:
1. Sonic Boom was developed by Big Red Button, which was once a part of Naughty Dog. I guess Sonic Boom shows us why they *were* part of Naughty Dog.
2. Sonic Boom is *NOT* a reboot. The games are for the new cartoon series, and I'm pretty sure all of us know that games from/for shows are always bad, period.
3. Sonic Team, the dev team responsible for the main games is still making their own games.
They're probably just waiting for the Nintendo contract to be done with (which happened already, I think?) to move on to the next gen consoles, OR most of their team is just too busy working alongside other teams making the newer Phantasy Star games, you know, that awesome and unique sci-fi JRPG series that has been totally forgotten in the West thanks to Sega for not localizing them since the PSP games.
This is the best Christmas gift ever! Thank you, Yahtzee.
4:13 the cover of Final Fight for the Amiga! Keep that dream alive, Ben..
I like the show based off this because it's cynical and self aware with rare upbeat moments
Can we at least all agree that Sonic Colors was great?
From what I've heard/read, Colors and Generations are the two best Sonic releases in the last ten years (which, granted, isn't saying much, given the competition).
My favorite was unleashed day stages, but that's just me personally.
+The King of the Penguins
Not if you don't want to attract irate Yahtzee fans. Given the replies to my own other comment, you either have to agree with Yahtzee's definition of the game - "tolerable" - or accept to be described as a butthurt fanboy by the reviewer's fanbase.
Ian Longosky Yeah. It's not saying anything. I think they've aged badly, too.
well the stages may have memorable themes but not with its separate segments each map.
it's like new super Mario Bros all over again.
Merry Christmas Yahtzee and everyone else !
*sighs* this game had such potential. I have a pretty sensible theory as to what happened.
BigRedButton was making this game into a collectathon with a brawler battle system. Then, around the halfway point of development, BRB had to deliver a progress report to SEGA, which SEGA responded with "oh my god what have you done theres not nearly enough linear running segment that has made sonic so good over the years fix it now or we terminate your contract!" Then BRB had to spend the rest of development time on injecting their half complete collectathon with the worst part of any 3d sonic game. obligatory "gotta go fast in exactly 3 lanes" running sections.
You know a franchise has gone done the crapper when "Ty the Tasmanian Tiger" shows better aging than Sonic Adventure.
Man, why did EA had to axed that franchise, it could've held on well on the PS vita or 3DS.
Matthew Frye You know it's gone down the shitter when Kid Icarus on the NES aged better than Sonic Adventure.
Tucker Stackow No it didnt D_D
Rockymann27 Yeah it has.
Tucker Stackow Kid icarus aged far more terribly in comparison.
Yahtzee: What makes you think im this stupid sonic boom?
Sonic Boom: You bought me!
Yahtzee: Touche
almost died from laughter at that point
ROLLIN AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND!
Best idea ever. How about Escapist does Zero Punctuation, THE ESCAPISTS!!
at this point, they're probably making really broken games on purpose just so game grumps will play it
Imagine being the kind of person that downvotes a Yahtzee video, that must be a pretty bummy existsance
HAHAHAHA that ending was hilarious, save the best jokes for last I always say!
That last line was the greatest burn on the Sonic franchise I've ever seen. XDDDDDD
Nice one Yahtzee.
I think the reason people still buy Sonic games is because every now and then their is a small gem in the franchise. They have hundreds of bad games and come out with one good game and you think "maybe they are finally getting it" then they create another horrible game right after they made a good one. So you are forever with enough foolish hope to buy the next one.
"They have hundreds of bad games and come out with one good game and you think 'maybe they are finally getting it'"
You mean, like Capcom, EA, Bethesda, Ubisoft and Activision do?
There are actually people that defend this crap
Still better than '06.
Ded2ra 06 =best sonic game
10/10
"Too much water."
MetalOmega --IGN
This game is still sold in stores.
Humanity has dropped to it's lowest point.
Merry Christmas
The bandages are probably after Sonic's friends tried to pet him.
The game's shit yet somehow the TV series was somewhat entertaining. Probably because they just got bored and started insulting the Sonic series...
Taking bets on how many posts it takes for the inevitable blind fan to cry "ITZ NOT AS BAD AS EVERYONE SAYZ IT IS!!!" Starting bets at 425.
I'll take that action, but only if a Dark Souls fanboy and a Devil May Cry fanboy take turns beating him to death with their gloriously incandescent demon cocks.
MiyariShirou \[T]/
Merry Christmas from London Yahtzee! We love ya' bastard! Review PT Silent Hills. PLEASE!!!
Bounce Pad!
Rings are life, baby!
Time to rev the engine!
I'd usually be upset about your hatred for Sonic, but yeah...Sega really needs their nose rubbed in this one. They were just getting back on the right track and then they fell into the exact same pit that resulted in 06.
I'm not so sure you know who did this.
Sure Sega published this but they didn't develop it.
RangaRiis But ultimately it's Sega's cal on when and if it gets released. If BRB wasn't working out, then they should have done something. It's the same thing that happened with Colonial Marines, except I doubt they'll want to do a mega-patch for this game.
Sure Sega's the boss and all, but I'm not going to stop the blame with them. They shouldn't have commissioned BRB in the first place, and BRB could have done a better job with what they had. Well who am I kidding they probably couldn't have managed it to begin with. And for some reason (BF4) I think the advertising the game was cry-engine3 was a clearest sign the game would be a BOOM BOOM. xD
That is without considering the crap they showed at E3. lol
RangaRiis
The Cry engine seems to be the major contributing factor to the game's downfall. According to the developers, it was so difficult to develop for that they had to make the quality plummet in order to get it to not implode on itself. They tried to switch to different engines, but someone high up forced them to use the Cry-Engine. If they were allowed to change it, then the game probably would have been better. It probably would have only made it up to being an adequate game, but it'd still be better than it is now.
It's especially infuriating because Sega had the Hedgehog Engine that they used for Unleashed and Generations that was explicitly created with the intent of producing high quality graphics for fast paced games.
Is he ever going to do a video on Super Smash Bros???
I don't think he wants another shitstorm like the one he got after reviewing Brawl.
It'll probably be similar to his video on SSBB.
According to his Brawl review, Yahtzee fails to recognize much depth or fun in Super Smash Bros.
Baffling, but what can you do?
Not everyone has to like Smash...
Fireckrakermola plus, he already has a bias against fighting games so it's pretty much going to be a predictable response seeing how SSB 8 isn't anything extremely new from Brawl
Perfect review and it didn't even mention all of the glitches that game has
"And you'd be all wrong, and a bag of chips!" - Yahtzee (One of my favorite quotes.)
Given that, Boom was NOT developed by Sonic Team.
Oh, and 06 wasn't bad because of characters, it was bad because of glitches.
*****
I concur.
It wasn't even bad because of just the glitches. The glitches were one half of the real problem:
God-awful heuristics
For those of you who haven's spent half their adult life trying to get a software engineering degree, heuristics is a set of design concepts designed to teach the user how to use the software and make them less frustrated. It's a predecessor to the video game concepts of "agency" and "immersion".
Sonic 06 does not have good heuristics. Sonic 06 has some of the most frustrating, cluttered, and conflicting user feedback in the history of video games. You can literally die from doing nothing wrong. The game's engine has been known to produce different results from the same set-up. The rapidly-changing characters and gameplay styles give the player no "warm-up segments" -- you're expected to know how to control mach-speed Sonic within ten seconds of seeing it for the first time.
This is where the glitches come in. They amplify the problem, making the user die even more often just when they were starting to sort of figure out what was going on
***** "Glitches are not what ruined Sonic 06. I need people to start spreading that as gospel."-ClementJ642
MastaGambit It was both.
So this is pretty much the attitude I've been witnessing over the last few years regarding Sonic:
*Sonic Colors is released*
"Hey, a Sonic game that's actually not bad. It's a step in the right direction."
*Sonic Generations is released*
"Wow! This has the classic 2D platforming the original Sonic had and the 3D platforming of modern Sonic, which is similar to Colors! This is great!"
*Sonic Lost World is released*
"Okay, this isn't quite as good as the more recent Sonic games, but it has some neat ideas. Overall, it's okay."
*Sonic Boom is released*
"OMG SONIK IZ DED THER HASNT BEN A GUD SANIC GAEM SINC DA GENISIS LOL SEGA SHULD JUS KIL IT ALREDY!!!"
Yes, Sonic Boom sucks a big fat one. But for fuck's sake, people...GET OVER YOURSELVES! This doesn't mean that every modern Sonic game is bad, and it doesn't mean that they can only be bad from this point on. Good Sonic games can still be made. Also, keep in mind that this is mainly a SPIN-OFF and was made mostly to be a tie-in with the new cartoon. I don't have any reason to believe that Sonic is "dead" just because this game turned out to be shit.
I think Lost World was decent, but I just didn't like how the took the levels, nor did I like the automatic homing attack, always pissed me off for sending me in the wrong direction. One thing I did like (for the 3DS version) was that wave kick he had, I thought it was a pretty cool addition in dealing with certain enemies. Though the level design in the 3DS version pisses me off more.
mechking4511 If you press B instead of A when locked on to an enemy, Sonic will do a regular jump instead of a homing attack.
Creepy_Chris I'm still surprised that all the coke Sonic's on hasn't worn off yet.
Don't forget the part with the riptide where if you hit something they insult knuckles witch is just a paper thin cushion of saying "Drive better you screw up!"
THANK YOU for your creative use of your excellent vocabulary in an environment of anti-learning! HUZZAH!!!!
Did Yahtzee say 'a bag of chips' but show a picture of crisps?
Blasphemy.
They treat you like you are stupid because this game is *marketed towards children*, which is why
A. The dialogue is cringy
B. The mechanics are simple
C. The game is lenient in failure
that said, it is still very glitchy and unpolished and another stain on Sonic's already-degraded reputation.
Other than the glitches... is this game seriously marketed towards children? Not a general age or something like that?
It doesn't matter if it's marketed towards children and you can't use that as an excuse as to why the game is bad. For example with most things marketed towards children, I can look at that thing in the eyes of a child and see how it might be good to the child. With Sonic Boom I cannot for the life of me see how anyone can find this good.
Children are stupid but not _that_ fucking stupid. They can grasp core game mechanics and know when a game feels like shit. It's not like Sonic is trying to tell some deep philosophical tale.
Kalificus which is an excuse... how?
0:16 Momentary body line vibration.
Finally figured out where I picked up "all wrong and a bag of chips" from!
The WiiU is getting raped even more now. One of the worst consoles out there tbh
SSB4, MK8, Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2...
The Wii U had a pretty good year imo
Meanwhile the PS4 has... Knack...
Oh, really? Does the Wii U ask for your money so that you could play online? Does the Wii U lack retrocompatibility? The catalogue is fullfilled with remasterizations? The same Yahtzee said it, Wii U is a game console, not an inferior PC like Xboner and PS4. From a PC guy.
it isnt the worst console out there, it just has some bad games, it has a lot of great ones too, well thats assuming your a nintendo fan, there are ports of other great games too like darksiders 2 and bayonetta 1 and sonic & sega all-stars racing transformed
Wii U's core concept is fucking stupid, Nintendo managed to capture lightning in a bottle with the first Wii and the motion control fad shit, and they tried to do it again but it was sooo fucking obvious it wasn't going to work again...HOWEVER, a bunch of exclusive Platinum and Nintendo IPs is slowly really making want a Wii U
The last good Sonic game: Sonic CD
Sonic & Knuckles or even Sonic 3D.....
Sonic pretty much died with the Sega Mega Drive...
***** It's fun, but not a typical sonic experience.
ExplosivePeeps The last good Sonic Game: THERE NEVER WAS ONE.
***** Trolls sure try hard these days.
ExplosivePeeps Well come on man, the franchise has become so absurdly diverse that there is no decent gauge for quality. People can argue about the quality of the genesis games just as much as the recent games. Not to say I don't like some sonic gasmes, I love Generations and Colors, the Genesis Trilogy was awesome, and I'll take your word that CD is fun, but has become impossible to definitively say what a good Sonic game is. We all know what a good Mario game, good Pokemon game, and good Souls game is because they are all consistent in how they are set up, the Sonic franchise from consistency standpoint is a mess.
Always makes me smile
haven't played a Sonic game since they where on the Megadrive, Glad to see I'm not missing anything :)