How a Non-Legendary Pokémon is Dominating Ubers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- Basculegion, 2024
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0:00 Introduction
2:32 Last Respects
5:45 What Basculegion Does in Ubers (Moveset)
8:32 How to Try and Stop it - เกม
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"The main way you wanna beat Basculegion is in battle"
You heard it here first, folks. The best way to defeat Basculegion is by battling it. Diplomacy will not work on this fish.
i audibly laughed
Gandhi in shambles
@bradschaefer2387 but like the irl one not the one from civilization
This is insane, folks.
The fish takes no prisoners
i wish dracovish was in this game too so we would have two funny fish running ubers
CB tera Dracovish in the rain is so indescribably stupid Im glad tho he’s not here
But think of the funny having Mr fish and his son fish wielding the power of his dads soul
Tera water fisheous rend in rain is an actual nightmare.
@@edmarcuscabie134 + cb💀
252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Tera Water Dracovish Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Grass in Rain: 456-537 (102.7 - 120.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Just saying that
you know shit is fucked when people are starting to run the lvl98 tech
No literally, that's a sign of true desperation.
What does the lvl 98 tech do to it?
Edit: nvm I got to that part just now.
@@inhenterprises did you watch the video?
@@inhenterprisesFor Trick Room Teams. If you Are min speed iv/ev, you Could get into a speed tie with the other one.
If you Are Level 99, you Are Slower than the Same Pokémon at Level 100.
@@marcelarnold620 lol I was in the middle watching and just now got to that part
"More niche options like sucker punch Kingambit" is a hilarious phrase out of context
Basculin really had a glow up, from forgettable to getting an evo that’s ban worthy from Ubers, let’s go little fish!
Someone should tell mr beast (he was a gen5 competitive player) that basculin would be the cause of ban talks in Ubers in 10 years
And all it had to do was die!
@@Thund3rDrag0n12 hey, that's a lot less work, we should give it a try
@@timob1681goat reference
Was not expecting to run into a Hamilton ref in the comments section of a Pokémon TH-cam vid, this just made my day
You never realize how important the dark bacon bird is until there is a ghost types running around
Same with pursuit, really.
I swear a huge reason Calyrex-Shadow got banned was the fact that there was no Yveltal around to deal with it. Otherwise there'd be significantly more counterplay against it. The other huge reason was of course Terastalisation.
clearly that wouldn't be enough if even turning tera normal isnt enough
@@SplitPushLoL the thing about calyrex-shadow is it's too good of an offensive pokemon. if it tries to 1v1 yveltal, it needs to pack either draining kiss or tera fairy tera blast (or some tera electric/rock/ice variant). but this means that its other matchups are much worse. in order to maximise its value, you have to run sets that don't match up that well against yveltal.
meanwhile, yveltal's basic defensive sets that function as a tanky control mon (toxic sets, roost sets, oblivion wing sets, etc.,) function extremely well against non-tera calyrex-shadow and against tera variants, tera steel/poison/normal makes it a skill matchup.
@@a.v.y8331 i was not talking to you
i like the replay of a basculegion running through the team being able to be stopped only by another basculegion who gets to reverse sweep. i think it sums up the issue nicely
That reminds me if a similar scenario in gen 9 with calyrex shadow rider before dynamax got banned where calyrex nearly killed a whole team besides dying to another calyrex shadow rider. Btw I found it in a blunder video.
The first one forgot to agility
@@rooislangwtf i assumed it was Swift Swim
@@michabaron4129Under trick Room
Like back in the days when Mewtwo can only be stop by mewtwo😅
Ribombee and Basculegion out here crushing gods.
Little bug 🤝 silly fish
Killing literal Gods
Mr fish, mr fish 2 and little bug more than likeky beats most uber teams
@@skullguy4863what no yveltal and necrozma dusk mane does to a mfer
Wait what's Ribombee doing?
@@quantummelody2959 sets up webs and stun spore before dying witch gives sped control for basc and vish to sweep
Press F to pay last respects
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njivwathomassilavwe2056 lost 100% of its health!
Basculegion is definitely a salmonid, not a shark.
And ya mama one of those too
It'a a Barracuda.
Alternatively, it could also be a type of bass; it's pre-evolution is based on a bass, and both of their names are derived from bass. But, like you were saying, salmon is also likely due to the male/female coloration (male salmon are maintain their red color during mating season, females becomes a white or grey).
🤓 "AcTuaLlY..."
@@aninassit’s a member of the salmon family for sure
Barracuda don’t live in river environments (Basculin and legion do), and don’t travel upstream to spawn (what Basculin does and involved in its evolution)
I knew last respects was good but i didn't realize it was **plus 50 base power, scaling,** type good
Yeah and if you want meme really hard if you use revial blessing it doesn't undo the buff so it can do 350 base power
@@nathanieljones8043what about 500? Two Blessings users and two PP berries (I forget the berry name)
@@Beast_the_smash_guyleppa berry
@@Beast_the_smash_guy yeah, it can happen. You can also use recycle with the leppa berry. The only cap sits at 100 fainted pokemon, at which point it's a 5050 BP move (for reference, this means a level 13 basculegion has a guaranteed kill on a level 100 koraidon, assuming you're choice band, adamant, adaptability and tera ghost)
@@nathanieljones8043I didn’t know this, I’m gonna try this out right now
Thank you Mr. Fish
no way big OU himself
also f I s h
There’s only a two-letter difference between “Finch” and “fish”
Coincidence? I think not! :p
Uh oh, big stall™ is here
It’s at this time we need our boy Yveltal more than ever.
My favorite pokemon
It gets OHKOd if basculegion runs band and teras. You lose to foul play in that setup but if you run any other item on legion and tera dark you win the matchup with last respects. There is no counter with tera in the game.
@@dengar96 he said that Band wasn’t that good on basculegion and only works as a surprise factor tho, it’s not something you’ll commonly face
300 BP Last Respects still has a decent chance to 2HKO and Yveltal can't 2HKO Basc if Tera Fighting
@@brightpowder_cena even with the heal from Oblivion Wing?
I want to put this into context: *Ubers is now a harem anime where the regular-guy protagonist kills god*
Plain everyman Basculin goes on a journey, where he meets all sorts of powerful beings and gets them to follow him. His life arc culminates in a massive glow-up, and he's known from then on as Basculegion. In the final confrontation, he loses all the people he loves, and stands alone against their oppressors. As these literal gods before him revel in their victory and taunt him, he calls on the lives of the friends he lost in one final stand. The gods were not prepared for the magnitude of his bonds of friendship. "NANI?!" 😂
"I was a shitmon in life but I died and was reincarnated in another world and now they're trying to ban my super-overpowered cheat skill!?"
he even has a love interest that is only there to support him and die so he can get a powerboost (ribombee)
@@skkadoot9533 Horrible description. Take my Like.
@@skkadoot9533
Rotom frost: Who put this fly inside of me?
Basculegion: The real Gods are the friends we made along the way
**proceeds to 1-shot everything**
If I got a nickel for every time a mediocre BST water mon got insanely strong due to a broken move and synergistic ability I'd have 2 nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice
What’s the other one
@@princesscrystal6410dracofish, choice scarf, tera water, fiscous rend
@@megageorgeex7125swap the scarf for a band and add in sticky web support if you wanna really hammer in the damage potential
@@megageorgeex7125tera water?
@@zotanica terastalize dracovish into a water type so it gets 2x STAB instead of 1.5x STAB on fishous rend. Oh and toss in Kyogre's rain to help while you're at it.
I'm surprised it took this long for Basculegion to start terrorising Ubers, I always figured a Last Respects Swift Swimmer would be kinda broken even up in Ubers.
i swear i also thought it had swift swim but it doesn't
Swift swim is trash because koraidon is on 2/3 teams overall and 8/10 high ladder.
For anyone replying Swift Swim is trash I commented that before watching the vid and finding out it had Agility to use instead. So even more broken than I thought it'd be lol.
In this video you see Basculegion in trick room with a sub up as the last pokemon or in similar positions. With this much setup even base Ursaluna could sweep in ubers.
It is completely predicable too: You see it team preview, so you can keep a relevant sucker punch user or choice scarf pokemon ready.
I don't understand why "broken" is used so inflationary.
@@richardhauer8391 ...the video literally explained why Sucker Punch and Choice Scarf aren't consistent. With an Agility, the only scarfers that outspeed are Koraidon and Miraidon, you can't expect every team to scarf one of them right? Sucker Punch can be played around using sub, so that doesn't work consistently either.
Oh boy can’t wait to read this comment section that is definitely full of people who know and play this meta game
i will never play competitive pokemon but the analysis scratches my autism
I have never played Ubers before nor used basculegion, but if he gets banned finchinator WILL be receiving death threats on twitter.
@@strangeshotgunHe doesn't even run ubers but will receive death threats anyway lol
I love how everyone is pretending this is dominating the tier. It's viable, but definitely is not broken in ubers.
@@grinderaj841 post elo (respectfully)
inb4 Basculegion was a trial run to prepare for the gen-10 cover legendary's 300BP signature move on a 680BST mon.
You are mean
The taxis are struggling
Wow a non legendary pokemon potentially getting the Mega Rayquaza treatment
They won't ban the pokemon. They will just ban the move Last Respects in the same way Shed Tail is banned in OU
Basculegion is NU without last respects. Its a decent poke but not at all OP, it gets no other good physical ghost stab.
@@dengar96
It gets good ghost stab in special moves (hex and shadow ball), wich is why the female actually ranks higher in the formats where last respects is banned.
@@ebilgamingI doubt it. Is houndstone broken in ubers?
@@daniellejackson6543 No, but bans work differently in Ubers. Since Last Respects is the element that's banned to Ubers, not Basculegion, then only Last Respects can be considered for a ban.
I still can't believe in vanilla SV they banned Houndstone completely and not just Last Respects when they knew Basculegion was getting it too.
“Complex bans are bad bro just get rid of the Pokémon”
Nah, their logic behind it was sound. Even though they knew that Basculegion would get it, you have to consider that a) Game Freak has changed stuff between the datamine and the actual release in the past, so just because it had the move in the datamine doesn't mean it'd still have it when it actually released (see gen 5 Chandelure for example), plus, even if it stays the same, you can only test stuff once it's actually in the game and available. They knew all the time that Last Respects was broken. But you cannot also explicitly prove that while only one Pokemon available is capable of using the move.
@@segafreak2000you’re making too much sense, we mindlessly bash council here sir
@@TheKyubiisaannot on this channel
Basculegion wasn't available at launch so Houndstone was the only user
This just in: Last Respects has been banned from Ubers.
With a 95% majority.
Last Respects is less of an attack and more of a weaponized math problem. It’s not practical or even really useful to set up but its technical hard BP cap is 5050 for some reason.
5,050 is a NUTTY Base Power lol. Saw in another comment the move keeps track up to 100 KOs for some reason.
@@PokeMasrerJ Maybe for Revival Blessing shenanigans ? But at this point it's just stalling the game for no reason
@@PokeMasrerJ Yeah, 5050 is 100 KOs plus the base 50 and it still gets boosted by adaptability/tera ghost/etc. It’s a really stupid move lol.
The move would be much more balanced if it still started at 50 but gained 20 bp everytime
5 faints means it becomes a 130 bp move, wich still makes strong enough to feel worth sacrificing your teammates for(it makes it a ghost type last resort basically, since you'relikely to scarf yourself in it to maximize damage at this point), but also it is not too op and can be easly tanked by just a resist, making it not that big of a crutch anymore.
I think gaining 30 bp would be for the best
Man, ever since I got a basculegion in LA I fell in love with it. Not only is it a really cool design, it hits like a truck with wavecrash and now with last respects it seems unstoppable
Why did you had to go to Los Angeles to catch a Basculegion?
@@douglanmar Legends Arceus
Thank you Mr fish
Nobody talks about how Ghosts just keep getting better and better to the point I'd argue if they even get a quarter as much love as they did this gen in gen 10 they'll become the best type in the game.
The more time goes the more steel types loosing their resistance to ghost seems like a mistake.
The rise of ghosts has been very interesting. It was a great type hiding behind a lack of good mons and moves.
Psychic should be resistant to ghost instead of weak due to exorcism!
Who is with me?
@@Mirawaru
Honestly at this point, with how overpowered Pokemon in the newest games can be, I wouldn't even mind if Psychic went back to being immune to Ghost like they were in gen 1.
@@MishKozI'd kind of prefer if they just buffed normal so it was more viable. It being immune to ghost would nerf it by proxy.
Thank you mr fish
The fact last respects basculegion is more problematic than the already problematic Koraidon and Miradon is just insane to think about
I have heard so much the phrase "yveltal is not in gen 9" that i believe it was the only thing keeping ubers together.
I mean if the gen 6 legendaries where in gen 9 they would’ve probably be banned since Tera dark and fairy
@@daofficerofthenoodles7504 looking at natdex ubers
yveltal is nowhere close to banworthy
xerneas runs tera electric/fighting and is on the edge of being banworthy
zygarde runs tera water/fairy and can be hard to remove
tera blast might push xerneas over the edge, it makes tera ground/ghost more viable
@@galaxystudios370 I mean national dex different competitive then gen 9
Happy to see my ghost fish do good
takes me back to the level 99 slowbro/king days
The Kingambit vs. Basculegion matchup makes me imagine that they were childhood friends back home in Unova that always dreamed of becoming powerful, and drifted apart as time went on, amassing power and influence among their kind until they finally surpassed the previous known limits of their species, only to end up on opposite sides of battle.
epic
It requires a good amount of setup to do, and your opponent can see it coming in team preview. It reminds me of a moody bidoof video
The amount of setup is having your mons faint lol
Imagine going back in time and telling someone that Basculin’s evolution will be under consideration for a ban from Ubers lol
Youre forgetting that this happened to Dunsparce before this.
Dunsparce was a straight up bad mon pre Gen 9, Basculin just mediocre
7:33 “wind blows, rain falls and the strong prey on the weak. All is as it should be”
HUGE fan of this tyoe of long-form competitive analysis content!
back in the day, TheKillerNacho uploaded a gen 4 video of a magikarp sweeping in ubers using flail at 300 power. Giving a significantly better pokemon a stab flail that doesn't rely on being low hp was always going to end like this.
Love the new call to action animations, really professional looking
glad to know Last Respects was always the problem instead of Houndstone
It always was, I will never understand why they're so reluctant to just ban this obviously extremely broken move that was clearly not design with 6v6 singles in mind.
@@dzigayu4944True but Hounstone is mid without it so what is the big deal?
@@dzigayu4944I mean when houndstone was banned it was the only accessible pokemon with the move, but yeah I still think they should have just banned it to ubers rather than the pup itself and have been done with it.
@@dzigayu4944 It's a question of banning logic.
You can technically always say any pokemon is not banworthy if yout ake away its good moves. If you ban all moves from Rayquaza except Tackle it will probably be ok in OU, but no one will say doing that is a good idea.
Now you say "well obviously you can't just ban moves like Flamethrower and Shadow Ball which half the mons in the game get, Last Respect is different". And the logic is to ask then why do you say it is different? We knew it was not going to stay exclusive to Houndstone so multiple pokemon can get it, making it just a generic move. If a bunch of pokemon use it and are not broken but there's one abuser, you ban the abuser not the move. So they waited to see if the move was broken or not to ban it over Houndstone.
"Ho but it was always obvious it was OP on any mon, so we should have done it before" are we predicting the future now? Tons of stuff got called OP before being tested and found out to be fine. Ppl were clamoring for Ursaluna to be released already in Ubers FFS. It might have been obvious that the move was overtuned but rules exist for a reason and following them consistently is what makes the tierin have any sor of logic.
so we need a pokemon with high physical defence, a ghost resistance and a water resistance?
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He’s finally making it out
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252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Tera Ghost Basculegion Last Respects vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tablets of Ruin Wo-Chien: 293-346 (78.3 - 92.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Its not a standard set on either poke either. If you have a standard SpD wo chien you get OHKO'd 90% of the time and no matter what set its always a 2HKO. There is nothing that can take two basculegion hits in the game at the moment.
@@dengar96 wo-chien only needs 2 turns
CACTUR- ig that works too😔
Basically, Dracovish's successor
I hope it will get a suspect test and not a quickban, it may be problematic but it's not calyrex shadow level
Awesome video
So this thing rips apart armies of gods to avenge its friends they've killed?
This fish just went full Kratos.
It can 2 hit to 3 hit ETERNAMAX Eternatus.
252+ Atk Adaptability Basculegion Last Respects vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 284-336 (43.6 - 51.6%) -- 8.2% chance to 2HKO
Meanwhile
252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Dracovish Fishious Rend (85 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Heavy Rain: 88-104 (13.5 - 15.9%) -- possible 7HKO
Yeah…
That’s a little more than Kratos
The fact that a combo of a bee and a fish that pays its respects is destroying stuff like zacian crowned and miraidon is hilarious to me
Nice vid
Last Respects and the Treasures of Ruin reminding us that this game is balanced only around doubles, despite the entire game being singles
Simply play vgc format. Then surely everything will be balanced haha (I wish)
@@yuricecconi561 incineroar is always watching
The power of this funny fish makes me proud, taking what was basically a no-name water-type and turning it into a godly fish was the best thing to happen in 2022
My dude back to the OG editing style with the Gen 3 music
Thanks Mr. Fish
4:00 It's worth noting that Ghost-Fighting can hit ALL BUT ONE TYPE COMBO for neutral damage or better
"And this was the moment when Smogon finally... _jumped the shark_"
Ribombee is really good, it can outspeed legendaries and knows quiver dance and sticky web
This is insane
I love basculegion so much its so cool. Like it evolved from one of the crappiest pokemon its probably the best glow up
Singles players trying not to be rinsed by a dead fish every match:
me when hisui zoroark illusioned as a mon who resists wave crash
I am all for a Basculin evo to join the elite group of pokemon banned from ubers along side heavy hitters like Wynaut Mega Rayquaza and Funbro.
Bring back pursuit, and suddenly there's a dead fish in the water. also a traumatized gold plated cheese stick dude that would look both ways on the OU street.
"But noooooooo, let's delete Pursuit and leave ghosts unchecked!" said Game Freak.
Salmon Run go Brrrrr
"Basculegion isnt a legendary, but you wouldnt know it if you watch battles with it"
*Proceeds to show an Ubers game that isnt a battle with it*
It also counters a lot of priority moves:
Extreme Speed, Quick Attack, Feint ---> No effect
Mach Punch, Vacuum Wave ---> No effect
Aqua Jet, Jet Punch, Water Shuriken ---> Resist
Bullet Punch ---> Resist
Ice Shard ---> Resist
Weak to ---> Grassy Glide (needs terrain), shadow sneak
---> Sucker Punch, Thunderclap (requires incoming attack)
1:29 lol look at it clipping through the floor
when i clicked the video i saw the new thumbnail, im somehow one of the lucky to see the og thumbnail
I saw it too lol
It feels like a few days ago it was in UUbers
Last respects being broken in ubers is so unsurprising
So glad my king basculin is not only getting his spotlight but also his place in history with the chance of being sentenced to anything goes
@FreezaiPokemon Where did you get the custom Pokémon Trozei/Pokémon Shuffle sprites from? Now I'm curious!
We knew this would happen after whole Houndstone situation.
When basculegion was revealed I called this happening. If last respects was insane on a middling Pokémon it was always going to be ridiculous on a good Pokémon
“Last respects+adaptability ” that’s how fast I can explain why legion is so good
Its like the Kingambit of OU, dominating in the late game, but decent in early and mid game
I honestly love Basulegions design, its shiny form, and its move pool outside of last respects. Its a really interesting swift swim sweeper with some fun moves and a good typing. Its a shame that last respects is so OP and is the only real reason its ever seen.
Pokemon should really avoid using super-high-scaling moves like this in the future imo. The powercreep is ridiculous, and extremely unbalanced even in single-player. Scaling stats with abilities like Supreme Overlord is fine, because stat boosts already do that, but scaling attack power is just multiplicative growth in combination with stat and ability boosts.
There balanced around formats that don't bring Six pokemon. Last respects isn't broken in Battle Stadium Singles or VGC where it caps out at 150 or 200. Supreme overloard isn't very nearly as good as defiant in VGC either.
Supreme Overlord is every bit as multiplicative as Last respect
The problem isnt this math shit your thinking about. Its just the numbers is high. Respect gets 200% boost with 1 death and 50% with 2 death 33% with 3 and 25% with 4 with 1 death already putting it at earthquake level
@@screwtokaiba I meant that the power of a move heavily dictates the total damage output after stats, stat boosts, and abilities. I simply wish that moves that scale up in power like this don't become the main meta, because having various potentially 200-300 power moves could be a problem.
My point with Supreme Overlord is that it doesn't define the meta, because it isn't nearly as threatening as having a sweeper ability in combination with Last Respects, even if the numbers are about the same.
Scaling attack power also can't be stopped by Unaware, removing one of the defensive counterplays.
@@10Gpixels i agree with stats(if you add 100 bst to an offensive mon stats its about as good as Adaptability on a good 130 base offense and thats 1/6 of your bst budget even on Mythicals) but ability not so much since ultimately the way they affect the game is done exactly the same way. They both amplifies stats in the mechanically similar but separate bracket
It’s not the bass. It’s the last… respects
Feels odd being so early
Basculegion and Dracovish being the same color palette is icing on the cake lmao
Fishy, killer of gods
Basculiegion: I see no gods up here, OTHER THAN ME
i wonder if scrappy fear could just be used to check it
Basculegion will be the next one to AG
To AG with the bunny on a ghost horse too
Also - a simple nerf to last respects will happen. It'll probably go +20 per fained ally, which puts it at 110 and comparable to thunder, hydro pump, solar beam, etc. I personally think that'd be WAY more balanced
Just let the Fish cook 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
It mahoragga
Basculin saw how it was mocked in gen 5 and has come back for revenge.
It wants blood, and by Arceus it will have it.
As someone whose never played Ubers, let the fish stay
I actually don't know what they were thinking with this mon.
Like:
"Let's take this move that made a bad mon OP, And give it to this other mon that's about 10x better" XD
They thought it was a good idea as it wouldn't be broken in *VGC*
Of course gamefreak doesn't take singles into account
Always worth mentioning is that bans happen because of things that reduce play diversity. The question is if Last Respects is forcing everyone on the ladder to build certain ways, and if the resulting games play with enough room for skill expression. Last Respects has an inherent problem because it forces games to play out the same way every time whether it works or not.
the kingambit of ubers
*KILLER FISH*
*Killer fish from Hisui.*
Right now been running into alot of bred lanturns with ability volt absorb and the move soak.
When Archaludon video?
I want the old thumbnail back
Ditto goes brrrr
I knew Last Respects was a bad idea for a move!
Last respects is stronger than pre nerf explosion
If you're insane, you can get Last Respects above 300 Power
Last Respects doesn't count how many of your Pokémon *are fainted*
Last Respects counts how many times any of you're Pokémon have fainted.
If you use Revival Blessing you can get Last Respects to count 6 or more KOs
Is a high speed pokemon with perish song or dragon tail not viable?
could force it to switch out and attack around it until it's the last one left.
problem with perish song being, you would need 3 stall turns/moves or 3 extra pokemon alive to take one shots
Its kinda like baton pass chaining. Sure it can be super good but its also easy to break
Bro they're straight up trolling singles players at this point and not even trying to hide it lmao