the way he is putting more on and shaping it to not make it go overboard. pushing the butter to toast ratio to the max. he has control of that, not control of his ship. kind of sad really.
It was weird how much he just kept putting on that small potion of toast. Then kept arranging it and putting more and more. Strange is what it is. To me, yuck ..... to that much butter on toast, might as well just forget the toast and eat the butter.
even as a 12 year old watching this on TV's afternoon movie, I thought that the obsessive nature of butter application was worthy of note for some reason, but at that age I could not know....
@Mark Grudt Film critics of the day could have asked the strawberries about their treatment during the production of this epic movie, but those who shall not be named (as per US Navy Secret Strawberry act of 1944) had already eaten them all. 🙈
I was just thinking it reminded of the way Richard Dreyfus’s character sculpts Devil’s Tower out of mashed potatoes in Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
I know Fred MacMurray's character is supposed to be manipulative in this, but the WTF look he and Van Johnson share at 1:06 when they are told all the hands are going to be stripped makes me laugh my butt off because it's totally honest and exactly the look I would have given.
That's the beauty of MacMurray's portrayal. For most of the film, you believe he has the ship's best interest at heart. It's not until the court martial that you see him as a coward willing to throw his shipmates under the bus to save himself.
When asked in an interview how he managed to capture the paranoid performance of Queeg, Bogie replied: "It's simple. Everyone knows I'm nuts anyway!". 😂😂
Perhaps this should have been the moment where Lt. Maryk asked Lt. Keefer to take a walk. Closed the door, got right in the Captain's face and said this: "Captain with all due respect, I did not sign up for this! If you really believe tearing this ship apart for a few pounds of strawberries during a time of war is appropriate use of Uncle Sam's time and money, you can do it yourself. I will have no part of this nonsense. Relieve me if you must. If you wish to court-martial me, be my guest. I'm sure the Navy would love to hear all about this. Good night, sir."
@@frankmcgee3213 Thanks, and thank you for your service. I'm not military, just a civilian who's watched too many movies. But I'd like to think you can find teachable moments in film and other art, if you're paying attention.
Queeg only cared about reliving his glory days. Keefer wanted to act out some novel he had in his head. Maryk wanted to do right by the Navy. Keith was caught in the middle of it all. Each of them failed in their own right. No heroes, no villains, just sailors caught up in something bigger than themselves.
@@ObamaFromKenya Wartime promotions. If he was an officer in the Navy before WWII, then there would have been a lot of spots to fill during World War II. The Navy went from 161,000 personnel in 1939 to 1,740,000 personnel by 1944; it also went from 790 active craft to almost 6,800. That would produce faster rates of advancement from the more experienced pre-war officers to fill positions on PT Boats, Minesweepers, Frigates, and other new ships. Many of those promotions were given on temporary basis while the US was at war, while their permanent rank remained on a previous promotion track.
@@kansasross so would they keep those fast track promotions after the war, an officer like Queeg keep 0-4 after the war? Wasn’t there a huge downsizing in 46?
When I was stationed on a destroyer in japan the uss john s. Mccain we had a tyrant CO who had the entire crew gathered on the flight deck (we were in homeport) and proceeded to tell us that we will not leave the flight deck or the ship until a tiny after market laser sight from one of the 50s is found and returned. This is a crew of about 318 sailors. After two hours of sitting on the flight deck I had to leave for a dental appointment that was the only way off the ship was for medical appointments. From my dental chair I can see the ship below. The full bird cleaning my teeth asked what that is about I told him and he gave me a look of disbelief. The officers and chiefs would escort sailors into the ship one at a time to open their racks and toss them. When it came time for chow small groups of sailors were escorted into the galley for chow not allowed to talk while eating. This lasted all day. Never found the laser site, but he broke the crew. If there was any crew close to a mutiny this was it. We were bitter, angry, didn't care anymore etc.. navy sends movies every month for us to watch while underway this movie was one of them after getting numerous request for this movie to be played our CO banned it from being played again.
One of these sailors should've had a copy of "The Caine Mutiny" - the novel itself, in secret, it tells more about it, the sailor could read it to the rest of the crew ...
Thanks for sharing that. Ironically the navy just announced that they are culling their ranks. The retention rate is too high. Not enough positions for too many sailors
@@wetlazer alot of good people in the military, but there was a fair share of toxic leadership he just happened to be the co. Karma got even with him. He was relieved of command in Jan 2003 and we left shortly after for the gulf with the new CO and launched missiles at Iraq. The old CO wanted to go to war really bad when he heard we were firing missiles (he was at his new duty station on the east coast) he went off his rocker. Tried to get the navy to put him back on our ship so he could be there firing missiles. Our new CO was great and the crew was happy again.
There came a time, however, when he refused to play any morally ambiguous or villainous characters. From then on, he only did comedies and light-hearted movies.
I've always wondered about Bogart/Queeg's final comment, "We ought to have a little fun for a change, now that we've got some detective work to do." Was it an inside joke to Bogart's roles as Sam Spade and Philip Marlowe?
Why not just change the lock? this seems like the simplest solution. And in some regards I imagine these things work out on their own amongst the crew. Let the SOB steal the strawberries, and God help him when the rest of the crew find out they don’t have any strawberries after being 6 months at sea.
He checked the strawberries but never the ice cream. Should there also be missing portions of ice cream? After all it was a very fine desert of strawberries and ice cream.
I've only seen a couple of clips. Now I want to see the whole thing, but if I'm following the movie is about the colloquial term "gaslighting". Is that correct?
Hmmm... noooo, I don't really think so. The movie "Gaslight" (1944 with Ingrid Bergman) is about gaslighting, and it's a masterpiece on that subject. "Caine Mutiny" is also a masterpiece, but it's a different type of story. Without spoiling it for you, I can say it does have its twists. It's one of my favorites and if you've never seen it then I highly recommend that you check it out, from start to finish uninterrupted. You won't regret it. The movie version is somewhat abridged from the novel (it has to be; two-hour film vs. book), but it's an all-star cast and a great production and it's just excellent all the way around. Hope this helps!
Everyone has a Queeg in their family...maybe closer to home than they realize... If you cant recall one, but are angry a lot at them , it might be you ....😅😳
After being exposed to Bogart's character in this movie Fred McMurray shoukd have become paranoid on the show my three sons. McMurray should have expressed paranoia and the title of show could have been changed to....are these really my three sons.
All the military services expanded very quickly and they had higher ranking billets that needed to be filled. Officers who wouldn't have gotten a second look in peacetime often found themselves put in charge based solely on seniority. Look at Eisenhower. He was a LTC (O-5) when the war started and finished as a 5 star general which is a promotion of 6 grade levels in less than 5 years. So I find it totally believable that a Regular Navy ensign in 1939 could be a LT CDR commanding a small vessel in 1944.
@@martinrichard8362 If you watch the scene again you'll notice Queeg says "37", not "39". Everything else you wrote is spot on. Promotions were slow between the wars, so Queeg could have been a very senior ensign in 1937, promoted to j.g. shortly thereafter, LT in 40 or 41 with war looming and LT CDR in 1944.
For one thing, these guys are all way too old for their roles, especially Bogart; a destroyer captain in 1944 would have been in his late 30's. Queeg as an ensign in 1937 is likewise a bit suspect. An officer in his late 30's in 1944 would have been promoted from ensign to lieutenant j.g. in around 1932.
Queeg's actual rank was Lt. Commander. The title of "captain" is given to the commanding officer. Queeg's rank was only 3 steps up from ensign. He probably made Lt jg right after the "cheese incident." By the time of the war, two promotions would be very common within a few years.
Something does not add up!! Queeg said, "Back in 37, when I was a lowliest ensign"?? If this is WWII, how could he be promoted to the ship's captain in such a short time???
@N Allen you don't know me or my level of intelligence, but I would like you to know that there are two o's in the word too when used to describe quantity, such as "you are too stupid for words." Now, how ironic is that? Get a grip.
Such a great commentary on the nature of war by Herman Wouk that Queeg could be both the villain and highly sympathetic.
That is why Mr Bogart was an excellent choice for Queeg.
Legend has it he's still buttering that toast to this day...
The way he is putting the butter on his toast should be a dead give away that capt Queeg does not have both propellers in the water.
the way he is putting more on and shaping it to not make it go overboard. pushing the butter to toast ratio to the max. he has control of that, not control of his ship. kind of sad really.
It was weird how much he just kept putting on that small potion of toast. Then kept arranging it and putting more and more. Strange is what it is. To me, yuck ..... to that much butter on toast, might as well just forget the toast and eat the butter.
His propellers wore out years ago-!
Hahahahaha!! You are hilarious! I was thinking the same thing!
even as a 12 year old watching this on TV's afternoon movie, I thought that the obsessive nature of butter application was worthy of note for some reason, but at that age I could not know....
No strawberries were harmed in the making of this film.... 😁
@Mark Grudt Film critics of the day could have asked the strawberries about their treatment during the production of this epic movie, but those who shall not be named (as per US Navy Secret Strawberry act of 1944) had already eaten them all. 🙈
👍😁
@@teaguebrennan2428 🍓🤫
Except those in Queegs head.
ell Daud, you did make me laugh out loud.
My goodness what a movie...
Is this based on Capt Bligh?
Hes reinacting the big triumph of his career. The cheese investigation. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
A lot of this video is unintentionally funny.
@@thesprawl2361 That line was meant to be funny.
Q has head cheese-!
Queeg had cheese for brains.
The only cheese is in his head.
You guys can't see he's nuts?
Look at how he's buttering that toast!
Buttering it? More like making love to it.
I was just thinking it reminded of the way Richard Dreyfus’s character sculpts Devil’s Tower out of mashed potatoes in Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Thinking now .....there is more butter than bread in that scene. He's nuts!
I thought it was cream cheese.
I know Fred MacMurray's character is supposed to be manipulative in this, but the WTF look he and Van Johnson share at 1:06 when they are told all the hands are going to be stripped makes me laugh my butt off because it's totally honest and exactly the look I would have given.
That's the beauty of MacMurray's portrayal. For most of the film, you believe he has the ship's best interest at heart. It's not until the court martial that you see him as a coward willing to throw his shipmates under the bus to save himself.
The casting in this film is amazing. On paper, it gives me nothing but doubts, on film, I get chills.
You tend to forget he's Bogart.
He plays a great lunatic.
When asked in an interview how he managed to capture the paranoid performance of Queeg, Bogie replied: "It's simple. Everyone knows I'm nuts anyway!". 😂😂
Searching for a mythical key when they’re in a state of war at sea. Yeah, makes sense to me.
Queeg was a nutbar lol it's actually kinda sad Bogart did a hella good job
SealTeam Ryx, Bogart did a great job. Keep in mind that Queeg was way over his depth. I feel sorry for him. That is the key element in the novel.
Perhaps this should have been the moment where Lt. Maryk asked Lt. Keefer to take a walk. Closed the door, got right in the Captain's face and said this:
"Captain with all due respect, I did not sign up for this! If you really believe tearing this ship apart for a few pounds of strawberries during a time of war is appropriate use of Uncle Sam's time and money, you can do it yourself. I will have no part of this nonsense. Relieve me if you must. If you wish to court-martial me, be my guest. I'm sure the Navy would love to hear all about this. Good night, sir."
Well said. MMCM(SS) Ret.
I'll drink to that.
Pretty much what Winters said to Sobel in an episode of 'Band of Brothers'.
@@frankmcgee3213 Thanks, and thank you for your service. I'm not military, just a civilian who's watched too many movies. But I'd like to think you can find teachable moments in film and other art, if you're paying attention.
@CWS and TKP 66-02 exactly. say goodbye to that navy career.
Queeg only cared about reliving his glory days. Keefer wanted to act out some novel he had in his head. Maryk wanted to do right by the Navy. Keith was caught in the middle of it all. Each of them failed in their own right. No heroes, no villains, just sailors caught up in something bigger than themselves.
@stefanstentoos6344 if Queeg was an Ensign ( O-1) in 1937 how is he a Lt. Commander (O-4) in just 7 years
@@ObamaFromKenya Wartime promotions. If he was an officer in the Navy before WWII, then there would have been a lot of spots to fill during World War II. The Navy went from 161,000 personnel in 1939 to 1,740,000 personnel by 1944; it also went from 790 active craft to almost 6,800. That would produce faster rates of advancement from the more experienced pre-war officers to fill positions on PT Boats, Minesweepers, Frigates, and other new ships. Many of those promotions were given on temporary basis while the US was at war, while their permanent rank remained on a previous promotion track.
@@ObamaFromKenya In war, those who couldn't get advanced in the Depression years, were moved ahead rapidly.
@@stephenbyerly5887 so after the war an officer like Queeg would go back to 0-3 which would be the realistic progression?
@@kansasross so would they keep those fast track promotions after the war, an officer like Queeg keep 0-4 after the war? Wasn’t there a huge downsizing in 46?
Chow hound …love those old timely expressions. 😅
Humphrey Bogart's last starring role!!!!
Magnificent as always!!!!
Here's looking at You Bogey!!!🎉
When I was stationed on a destroyer in japan the uss john s. Mccain we had a tyrant CO who had the entire crew gathered on the flight deck (we were in homeport) and proceeded to tell us that we will not leave the flight deck or the ship until a tiny after market laser sight from one of the 50s is found and returned. This is a crew of about 318 sailors. After two hours of sitting on the flight deck I had to leave for a dental appointment that was the only way off the ship was for medical appointments. From my dental chair I can see the ship below. The full bird cleaning my teeth asked what that is about I told him and he gave me a look of disbelief. The officers and chiefs would escort sailors into the ship one at a time to open their racks and toss them. When it came time for chow small groups of sailors were escorted into the galley for chow not allowed to talk while eating. This lasted all day. Never found the laser site, but he broke the crew. If there was any crew close to a mutiny this was it. We were bitter, angry, didn't care anymore etc.. navy sends movies every month for us to watch while underway this movie was one of them after getting numerous request for this movie to be played our CO banned it from being played again.
One of these sailors should've had a copy of "The Caine Mutiny" - the novel itself, in secret, it tells more about it, the sailor could read it to the rest of the crew ...
Thanks for sharing that. Ironically the navy just announced that they are culling their ranks. The retention rate is too high. Not enough positions for too many sailors
WOW! Thanks for the story. Is the whole military filled with control freaks, like that guy?
@@wetlazer alot of good people in the military, but there was a fair share of toxic leadership he just happened to be the co. Karma got even with him. He was relieved of command in Jan 2003 and we left shortly after for the gulf with the new CO and launched missiles at Iraq. The old CO wanted to go to war really bad when he heard we were firing missiles (he was at his new duty station on the east coast) he went off his rocker. Tried to get the navy to put him back on our ship so he could be there firing missiles. Our new CO was great and the crew was happy again.
You DO know that the bad guy in the movie was Keefer (MacMurray), and Queeg, (Bogart) while a ridiculous figure, was in the right.
Fred MacMurray plays such a convincing, lovable scumbag in this film.
He was good at playing characters who were morally flabby, as in "Double Indemnity": he was wasted in t.v. comedy.
@@None-zc5vg Yes my three Sons
@@mikeochoa458 😂
I think he was more of a coward then scumbag.
There came a time, however, when he refused to play any morally ambiguous or villainous characters. From then on, he only did comedies and light-hearted movies.
Humphrey DeForest Bogart (1899 to 1957) Veteran, United States Navy. USN World War1 Seaman 2nd Class. ,Honorable Discharge.
I've always wondered about Bogart/Queeg's final comment, "We ought to have a little fun for a change, now that we've got some detective work to do." Was it an inside joke to Bogart's roles as Sam Spade and Philip Marlowe?
I have to confess. I ate the strawberries. Please dont tell Jenny Craig.
Ah the strawberries...that's where he had them.
Love how Boggie says “first” (foist) and “work” (woik)
Steves "GIG" line is unsat!
The way he's buttering the toast...creepy
Why not just change the lock?
this seems like the simplest solution.
And in some regards I imagine these things work out on their own amongst the crew. Let the SOB steal the strawberries, and God help him when the rest of the crew find out they don’t have any strawberries after being 6 months at sea.
He checked the strawberries but never the ice cream. Should there also be missing portions of ice cream? After all it was a very fine desert of strawberries and ice cream.
When you put your hand into a pile of goo that used to be a gallon of strawberries by golly you know what to do!
That’s a good parody of the movie PATTON.
Yeah...open a bottle of wine and down it
Forget it Marge, It's Chinatown!
How many great films 🎥 did Bogie make? ...aaalotttt 😊
Seems simpler just to get some more goodies and set a trap for whoever made the key.
ive definitely worked for some queeg's
I've only seen a couple of clips. Now I want to see the whole thing, but if I'm following the movie is about the colloquial term "gaslighting". Is that correct?
Hmmm... noooo, I don't really think so. The movie "Gaslight" (1944 with Ingrid Bergman) is about gaslighting, and it's a masterpiece on that subject. "Caine Mutiny" is also a masterpiece, but it's a different type of story. Without spoiling it for you, I can say it does have its twists. It's one of my favorites and if you've never seen it then I highly recommend that you check it out, from start to finish uninterrupted. You won't regret it. The movie version is somewhat abridged from the novel (it has to be; two-hour film vs. book), but it's an all-star cast and a great production and it's just excellent all the way around. Hope this helps!
Everyone has a Queeg in their family...maybe closer to home than they realize...
If you cant recall one, but are angry a lot at them , it might be you ....😅😳
This comment should be included with the place setting at every Thanksgiving dinner! 🤣
His coffee is getting cold.
McMurray's chin deserved it's own salary 😅
Why duplicate the key when you can simply pick the lock?
Back then people were fine and reliable, like an old ship clock.
After being exposed to Bogart's character in this movie Fred McMurray shoukd have become paranoid on the show my three sons. McMurray should have expressed paranoia and the title of show could have been changed to....are these really my three sons.
There has never been a mutiny aboard any US NAVY SHIP.⚓⚓⚓⚓⚓⚓⚓
In the novel, Queeg is much younger.
I wanna see the guy who ate 5 pounds of cheese.
Maybe he stored it to use over a long period of time.
You will find him squatting on the toilet.
How old is Bogie supposed to be if his character was a ensign in 1939 and it's only a few years later during world war 2?
All the military services expanded very quickly and they had higher ranking billets that needed to be filled. Officers who wouldn't have gotten a second look in peacetime often found themselves put in charge based solely on seniority. Look at Eisenhower. He was a LTC (O-5) when the war started and finished as a 5 star general which is a promotion of 6 grade levels in less than 5 years. So I find it totally believable that a Regular Navy ensign in 1939 could be a LT CDR commanding a small vessel in 1944.
@@martinrichard8362 If you watch the scene again you'll notice Queeg says "37", not "39". Everything else you wrote is spot on. Promotions were slow between the wars, so Queeg could have been a very senior ensign in 1937, promoted to j.g. shortly thereafter, LT in 40 or 41 with war looming and LT CDR in 1944.
1937
For one thing, these guys are all way too old for their roles, especially Bogart; a destroyer captain in 1944 would have been in his late 30's. Queeg as an ensign in 1937 is likewise a bit suspect. An officer in his late 30's in 1944 would have been promoted from ensign to lieutenant j.g. in around 1932.
Humphrey Bogart age 54
Fred MacMurray age 46
Van Johnson age 38
Robert Francis age 24
Ages of actors at time of The Caine Mutiny theatrical release
Queeg went from Ensign to Captain of a ship in six years? Impressive.
Eisenhower went from Colonel in March 1941 to General (4 stars) in February 1943.
I suppose in wartime it’s to be expected
Queeg's actual rank was Lt. Commander. The title of "captain" is given to the commanding officer. Queeg's rank was only 3 steps up from ensign. He probably made Lt jg right after the "cheese incident." By the time of the war, two promotions would be very common within a few years.
His title, as leader of a ship, was Captain. His actual rank was Lieutenant Commander, two grades below the rank of Captain.
Who moved my cheese?
Who cut it
Do we have this article 184 for the presidency?
We have the process of impeachment and trial in Article I of the Constitution...
25th Amendment
Well there was one and it was tried by 11 US States in 1861....it failed badly I might add.
@@warrenhoffman2006 That won't work. All the president has to do is send another letter saying that he's fine and the coup is cancelled.
yeah for biden.
Something does not add up!! Queeg said, "Back in 37, when I was a lowliest ensign"?? If this is WWII, how could he be promoted to the ship's captain in such a short time???
Title of captain. His rank was lt. Commander.
@@RM-we7pxLT Cmd actually
Now, who does this remind me of...oh yes! The orange atrocity in our white house!
Hey! You stole that thought right from my head!
@@scotgat G.M.T.A.
@N Allen you don't know me or my level of intelligence, but I would like you to know that there are two o's in the word too when used to describe quantity, such as "you are too stupid for words." Now, how ironic is that? Get a grip.
oh boy, a whiney Karen.