The 64 DS Iceberg: Deep DIVE Explained (Feat. Sunflower)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 พ.ค. 2024
- Super Mario 64 DS was an honoured game of our childhood, the DS was one of those systems that carried that stuff for us. Now, is there more to the story that us players don't get to see? Quite possibly... watch as me & Sunflower take a Deep DIVE into the "Super Mario 64 DS Iceberg"
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---TIME STAMPS---
0:00 - Intro
2:01 - (SKY HIGH)
7:45 - "Just The Tip"
12:29 - Below Surface Level
17:43 - Body of the Berg
22:11 - Lower Iceberg
28:03 - BOTTOM of the BERG
34:13 - Dark Waters
40:13 - The Challenger Deep
46:17 - Outro
MUSIC - (coming soon...)
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#Mario64DS #Iceberg - เกม
It looks like this video is starting to get attention again, would you guys like a follow-up video / fixing any mistakes? 🤔
yea maybe
If you feel like you'd have more to add and improve upon I'd say go for it. As thorough as you've been here I will say there are a few sections of this where you probably haven't entirely understood the meaning behind some of these and it feels a little clunky, fixing those in a follow up could be nice!
Definitely, maybe creating your own iceberg with some things that were missed. Like some of the gltiches, going more into the theories that weren't Waluigi. Or things like what dialogue you get if you hack your way into the King Boo fight with Yoshi (which I found interesting when I did that as a kid using an Action Replay)
Any content for my favourite game of all time is good content
@@TheSharpoint1 I second a look into the dialogue Yoshi can get if hacked into Chief Chillys boss room
Of course Yoshi can't go in Big Boo's Haunt, as established in Super Mario World, ghost houses are No-Yoshi zones
Sonic!!
Yooo
Nintendo keeping consistency?
That's uncommon.
@@luisjogos821 Mario Lore?!??!!?!??!
No stinky yoshi allowed!!!!1!1!!!!11!!!
I think the Waluigi References probably means that there’s a lot of purple around the game, like how in the Rex Room the polka dots on the floor are red (for Mario) green (for Luigi and Yoshi) yellow (for Wario) and purple, possibly for Waluigi, or even in the title screen where the Vs button is red, adventure button is yellow, rec room is green, and the options button is purple
That's actually a really interesting take, I've never thought of it like that... Definitely would've been worth mentioning
not only that, the hedge maze in the far bottom right corner of the front yard has a hedge that could be seen as a upside down L, but thats a leap and a half right there.
Likely, with the Purple Rabbits originally being a thing before they’re replaced with orange rabbits, purple likely stood for Wario. Yellow would then stand for Yoshi.
I’ve heard that somewhere else
Also the hedges in front of peaches castle have a backwards L
I genuinely think waluigi was planned for the game at one point. The fourth door, the purple in the options menu and rec room, and the scrapped purple minigame rabbit in the manual.
Also the fact no character has a 3 star speed stat in the manual.
I think he was taken out due to being the only one to have not been in a mainline mario game before. Waluigi has only been in the mario spinoff games (mario party, Mario Kart, mario sports, etc). There isn't a single official mario platformer game that has him, even as a non playable character.
Waluigi was definetely thought of at one point during the development. I'd say they wanted to limit the playable characters to 4 people for the multiplayer and they already settled with Yoshi being the main character. I really wish they had Waluigi instead of Yoshi he should of been kept as a NPC like he was in the original game and gives you 1 ups. I remember having dreams about playing as Waluigi in SM64DS man i hate that because of how real it felt.
And the purple yoshi
We have to ask the developers, or do you think they’ve forgotten?
Maybe Waluigi really is behind the white door but he's completely naked and that's why the other characters get scared
Everyone always wondering "where's Waluigi" but nobody asks _"how's_ Waluigi" 😔
When is Waluigi
Why is waluigi
What is Waluigi
I like how nobody asked "Who is Waluigi"
@@astrouphel We already know who he is, you blwahhsphemer
Hearing wwwario was one of the people behind the iceberg was so surreal. I treated all of his Waluigi videos as gospel in my hunt to unlock him when I was a kid.
Same here, the guy behind the Five Nights At Wario’s series being the person behind this Iceburg was a real surprise for me.
I was coming to the comments to say the same thing, those videos where he reviewed arceus2401's method of unlocking waluigi were formative to my early gaming experiences
28:12
All Characters with Wing Cap actually refers to something specific. Look up videos online of the final boss with Yoshi, Luigi, or Wario. When you normally grab the Big Star with Mario, he gets the wing cap and flies around. If you beat the game with the other characters, they also get the wing cap, but they don't fly around
There's also the fact that in VS, anyone as any character can pick up the feather rather than just Mario
@@repentofyoursinsandbelieve629 No
This video is refreshing for me, partly due to the abundance of Super Mario 64 iceberg videos and not about its DS remake. Very cool video and you got a new subscriber :D
Thx bro!
64th like on this reply
What makes the Luigi drawing special is that it seems to be drawn by Miyamoto, it fits how he draws Mario too
The Jolly Roger Bay painting in DS is based on its appearance in the Japanese N64 version. Also something I noticed one time... The DS igloo is still mostly based on the original layout if you compare the maps, except the floor became water and the walls became the new floor.
for 33:06 I can help translating a few of this symbols. Based on what i see from the video(sorry i cant see some of them clearly) The white tile 雪 means snow, the yellow tile 花 means flower, im not sure about the light blue tile since its not clear Im assuming it’s 水 which means water but it could also be 冰 which means ice, light brown tile 木 means wood, Brown tile 土 means earth, green tile 草 means grass. Im guessing they are places to test the sound efects for when the characters walk on different textures.
Thanks for the translation, now I know it's more of a texture/elemental thing. Appreciate it!
I love how Waluigi is for the DS version what Luigi was for the original version. Some things never change.
The igloo part is about the interior, not the exterior. The interior had to be redesigned because the DS can't render multiple layers of transparency, which the old igloo had. That's the same reason why they changed the ice maze star into just a couple of ice cube stacks.
It would be hard to navigate a space like that if you can't see where the walls are.
I think of what it means by "Wario is from a parallel dimension" it's because you get Wario by going through the mirror which can be considered a parallel dimension
When you fight chief chilly you get warios door key not wario entirely.
@@milkgo4d541 nah, then it would say the same about Mario and Luigi tho
@@Starnch how would they be from different dimensions? The Mario bros are locked behind doors in princess peaches castle while the keys are in the portraits where you have to fight the bosses to get them. The Bros aren't in a different dimension, the keys are. However I do see the argument with the fact that warios painting is behind the mirror which could be an alternate dimension but that would mean that Luigi can just change which dimension he goes to after picking up a power flower.
28:53 im pretty sure this refers to the fact the Wario Painting is inside the mirror, meaning it is not in the main dimension
40:26 you can go behind the mirror door in DS, it leads to a white void with a single power star
And I would counterclaim that means nothing, as Wario had been captured and put into the parallel dimension, you literally see him in the opening
Great vid, man! Glad I could help! I do have a couple corrections though:
Mario’s Face was a tech demo that was showcased at E3 2004, wherein you could manipulate Mario or Wario’s faces. This demo is now lost.
The REC room drawings referred to two drawings of mysterious characters seen in the actual REC room. These were presumably drawn by Peach when she was little
Thanks for helping along the way, really appreciate the feedback!!
You just gonna ignore that he said "It is unknown what's behind the mirror door, we're only left to speculate" when you literally have to go there to get a star?
@@thisisasupersayin376 That's the item you get after unlocking.
We still don't get to see what's behind the door after the star has been collected.
We hear boo noises and the characters look terrified after leaving so I don't think its just a star either
@@CorsonDrax That's the fourth character door. You were talking about the mirror door in the part I quoted
@@thisisasupersayin376 My bad, but it's the same with the mirror door as well. You get a star... and?
There's still loads of empty void, the star is the 1 thing we actually get to see
A little thing that I’m a bit surprised wasn’t included in the iceberg: If you decide to ground pound while standing on a sign, you can actually push it into the ground. If you do it as Yoshi, Mario, or Luigi, you’ll still be able to read the sign, and your character will even automatically crouch in order to read it when you interact with it (Wario will just push it all the way into the ground, making it unreadable. Other characters do this when pounding the sign a second time).
The waluigi symbols are basically instances in the game where the color purple is seen used in tandem with red, green, and yellow. Notable cases where this happens are the title screen buttons, and the dots on the floor in the rec room.
Great video!
My man!
My man!
Didn't expect you to return to 64DS rumors
Wwwario plugging himself in the iceberg under his past alias caught me off guard
Do you meam that Wwwario is arceus2401?
I don’t remember where I heard this or if it’s even true but I remember hearing that the “mysterious black box” was actually just the hole for the cannon being mistakenly rendered on the castle wall for some reason.
38:43 I haven't played 64 DS in a long time, but I'm fairly certain the wall kick is referring to Mario's "Wall jump". Its just called a wall kick. Actually kicking the wall with the attack button is not what it means. But I may be remembering the controls wrong
I can cut in about the Castle being the “original castle.” In the SM64 Iceberg an entry states that the castle was magically altered by Bowser due to the lack of things a castle needs for people to live like furniture. In the DS version you have at least 2 rooms that actually have furniture, the rec room and Peach’s room. That means either the castle was changed only mostly or not changed at all in the DS Version.
I grew up with 64 DS before the actual 64 so when I saw the original super Mario 64 for the first time I was like “why does Mario look like that?”
Same lmao
I actually have the privilege of knowing something that isn't on the iceberg! (Though it might be what the "everyone can use the wing cap" is referring to) that, you can enter the wing cap stage as Yoshi. I've only been able to do it one time per save file, but upon entering it Yoshi will appear with wings on his back. He can't fly in this state, he just plummets to the death zone but it's a thing that exists. Perhaps the other characters were planned to be able to use the wing cap in normal play, but it was scrapped to give Mario more unique abilities?
*Super Mario 64 DS* is my favorite game of all time so I'm glad it's finally being acknowledged like this in the form of a *Iceberg*
Now that's neat.
Number 15:
*Super Mario 64 DS*
It is also my favorite game of all time
I think the reason Yoshi can't hurt the boos is because the developers wanted to force the player to use Mario to unlock Luigi
The location of the Luigi painting always seriously screws with me, because I have the *most vivid* memory of what had to be a dream or something where it was in a room not unlike the ground floor room with the pit and the falling floors, except it was just one hallway and the bridge didn’t fall but it was over a pit to a platform/ledge with the Luigi painting at the end.
I grew up with both versions and loved the DS one. I never understood the hate.
If I had to guess, I think that Yoshi can’t hurt boos due to the devs not wanting you to get to big boo’s haunt too quickly
Its so you cant unlock luigi before mario
@@Hithere-uz6wd In the cartoon and sort of implied by SMW (because you can't take him into the haunted mansions), he's afraid of ghosts
@@Riboflavaflav Yeah i doubt thats the reason tho, you can reach the courtyard with yoshi before getting mario and you can reach luigis painting as yoshi so im pretty sure thats why
It's already established in super mario world that yoshis cant go into boo houses
@@SUBSCRIBERSWITHOUTVIDEOS-dj7vo also if yoshi could groundpound boos, you would be able to get the red coin star from the courtyard and access whomps fortress early, skipping bob omb battlefield and the textbox instructions for how to play
(5:40) Download play was local play, it was the only multiplayer mode available. You would open the multiplayer mode and your friends (or whatever) would open DS download play and join you as one the yoshis. You couldn't select your characters but there was caps in game that you let be Mario, Luigi, or Wario.
Other than that, superb video.
yea, I was aware of that. I used Download play myself before and I was mentioning how you could play using the different coloured yoshis.
I think I messed up my wording tho, I didn't mean to say they were separate things
appreciate the feedback tho!!
@@CorsonDrax Oh ok, I just figured you forgot or something. Thanks for the clarification.
41:41
I never seen any beta content of this game, but I actually had a dream about specifically being in SM64DS and encountering floating islands above the castle grounds that are linked by rianbow roads.
Finally somebody made an iceberg of the DS version. Which I think is very under appreciated
You can thank Sunflower for signal boosting this video.
This was legitimatly a well made iceberg and a great one to listen too
I love how he just get annoyed by seeing "Waluigi" or any type of reference referring for him in the Iceberg and theory's from SM64DS
I think the Yoshi ghost thing is maybe a reference to the fact Yoshi couldn't enter ghost houses in Super Mario World
I disagree. They probably wanted you to have mario unlocked to go to Big Boo's Haunt, So they made Yoshi not able to kill Boos. But then probably just chose to still not allow you to kill Boos as Yoshi after getting Mario, Or just forgot to make Yoshi able to kill Boos after unlocking Mario. I hope that I explained that correctly. (And I think they probably wanted you to use Mario to unlock Luigi. Because they're brothers).
OH MY GOD I FUCKING REMEMBER ARCEUS2401!!!
I actually tried his method of getting Waluigi back when I was 12 years old! Even though I was pissed that I fell for it, I absolutely loved that video for the sole reason that it used the final boss theme of Bowser's Inside Story before I even knew what the game was. I still love this track so much, and that video only deepened my love for this particular track. Man, good times...
If I remember correctly Nintendo stated that the DS version does have many ideas they had for SM64 2. So in a way it can be considered a semi-sequel.
It would be cool if we could see a gigantic Boo like that one from NSMB2 peeking behind the white door, so big we could only see his pulsating eye and the very end of his grimmy smile.
The one thing that I thought would be here is the pond level where there’s essentially like that other level inside of it and you fall out of the waterfall outside the castle, for some reason I was so curious about that when I was younger
I’m sure you won’t even see this but I don’t care lol. I believe the “Waluigi symbols” are referring to the purple dots on the floor of peaches room as well as the purple colour on the drawers in her room with toad.
I saw it.
@@CorsonDraxdude that’s so cool
Everyone talks about Mario 64, but never Mario 64 DS.
Well until now that is.
i dont think the "press A to Wall kick" was a typo. this was before they coined the term "wall jumps". one of the stars in 64 is
"Wall kicks will work" the wall kick they were reffering to was an actual wall jump.
press B, not A
Fun fact you are actually able to enter the battle with chief chilly as yoshi by clipping into the mirror
Hey, a thing I can answer!
At 33:05, the characters on the floor are 雪 snow (white), 花 flower (yellow), 冰 ice (light blue), 水 water (blue), 土 dirt (darker brown), 木 wood (lighter brown). and the last one I can see clearly (at 33:11) (green) is grass 草. The purple tile may be 無, but that’s a bit contextual. It’s typically used in relation to absence or “without”, so there’s that to consider. There’s also one more, that’s a greyish-brownish, also at 33:11 but without looking at other videos or TCRF I can’t see what’s written so I don’t know what it is
Finally someone did an iceberg for the DS remake! Ive been looking for one for a while
This game was my childhood. That secret door had my head spinning
I always refer the black bricks as Obsidian Brick Blocks
Why lol. Seems random to make the name longer than it actually is
That's like calling a noodle a "string-like wheat based product"
I think I remember hearing somewhere that the “really loves me... not” message plays a sound affect from one of the yoshi games when you get it
40:25 you can actually enter the door and it gives you a star
Rec room drawings refers to the crayon drawings of the table in the Rec Room, where the painting to sunshine silver stars are.
yoshi is afraid of ghosts. there was even an episode on the cartoon show where yoshi was afraid of ghosts. i think the fact that he cant hurt ghosts is symbolic of this.
My favorite part of this video is "HEY GUYS LOOK ANOTHER F***ING WALUIGI REFERENCE."
"idk how yoshi lay this but, ouch"
My mind: dontmakethatjokedontmakethatjokedontmakethatjokedontmakethatjo-
*HEY GUYS, DID YOU KNOW IN TERM OF BRE-*
At the last enrtry, put an epilepsy warning before at least plz. It's intense for nothing an can harm people (like me). Fortunately, I was quick enough to close my eyes. Enjoyed the video btw :)
I'm really sorry about that, I knew I should've put something for the strobe and I definitely regret not putting a warning... glad you enjoyed the video though, I won't let that happen again!
This video is actually really good, but an epilepsy/flashing lights warning at the beginning of the video would’ve been appreciated because my god, there’s a LOT of flashing lights and it’s not safe for epileptic people.
Nice to see the DS version getting it's own Iceberg video and not the N64. I feel like there's hardly any for the DS version so thanks for making this :)
two goated youtubers in one video, my recommendations have blessed me today
The JRB painting in SM64DS is just the Japanese version of the one in SM64 (it might also be the one used in the European version, I don't remember)
I think the only version of the JRB painting that was the pirate ship was the North American version of the N64 Super Mario 64
@@nikkiesplats4450 I had the European version on the 64, it used the pirate ship.
I never thought I’d hear the day about Arceus2401 again. I watched WWWario back in middle school around a decade ago and he covered those Waluigi videos and now I’m in my senior year of college. What a throwback
I cannot tell you how disappointing I was as a kid when I opened the white door and it was only a star and not waluigi
Maybe Yoshi can't hurt Boos because it's a reference to how he can't enter Boo houses in Mario World.
This game was my childhood, so glad to see someone cover it. Great video
SM64: *DO NOT RESEARCH*
SM64DS: *DO RESEARCH*
I like how the remake tells you do so but not the original one.
Dude having an iceberg of my most early videogame childhood era is a message from the lord.Thank you so much❤❤
appreciate you bro!!
BREAKING NEWS: This was a COLD Iceberg! 🥶
Yoshi not being able to harm ghosts or enter big boos haunt could be a reference to Super Mario World where yoshi couldn’t go in the ghost houses
”All characters with wingcap, the wingcap lets you fly with help from the cannon or by triple jumping, the wingcap can be found in a box with an exclamation mark” what does that have to do with ”all characters with wingcap”? Also even in the video you can see that the box has a question mark
What if 64 and the Ds version Is a parallel universe with minor differences?
the luigi drawing at 15:09 really looks like it was drawn by miyamoto to me
Great job on this, It was gaming!
thx!
37:28 me and my brother use to joke that they should have made it say “it’s a me super Mario I have been playing video games under the covers”
The DS bowser painting looks like his ID photo.
Thank you for not talking about waluigi too much it’s pretty much an all but confirmed theory
I was already exhausted with how much of that was put into the iceberg.
Good video bro this game is a gem of my childhood love seeing it being appreciated 👍
40:49
Bowser: Oh? You’re approaching me?
Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, and Wario: we can’t beat the shit out of you without getting closer
I played this for several years of my childhood, and had absolutely no idea you could egg with yoshi. Not a clue.
Probably says how to do it on a sign somewhere, but I never read it!
The ds version is finally getting the attention it deserves
WwwWario, now thats a name I haven't heard in a long time
The Waluigi 'screencaps' at 4:25 were an April Fools joke by Nintendo Power.
This is JUST what I was looking for.
Some things to note:
8:40 Luigi and Mario have the same base jump height. In fact, because Mario is faster than Luigi, Mario can jump *slightly* higher than Luigi. (Of course, Luigi rocks the jumping distance house)
8:53 Luigi is as powerful as Mario. They can break the same things and punch enemies the same distance.
12:25 Sorry to ruin your joke, but running on water is not as impressive as walking on water.
I love your rom hack :D
those symbols on the ground in the rear level are the ka kanji for water, wood, earth and so on
Great iceberg man. I'm still curious as to who the ally with info was?
Happy you finally were able to get an iceberg in. Payed off well.👍
appreciate it bro!!
The "Ally with info" may be reffing to Wario since he is an ally.
He still says it even to Wario though.
After replaying Mario 64 on the switch I can safely say Mario 64 DS is the superior version.
That's an understatement 😂
SM64-EX is the true superior version
Very well put together
the waluigi symbols entry is referring to symbolism of waluigi, as in, signs that he was intended to be in the game, this mostly comes from the fact that many things that involve 4 colors in the game, are symbolic of mario, luigi, wario, and supposedly waluigi, like the towers in the level where you unlock the power flower block, the color of the settings button on the opening menu, and the colored circles on the floor of the minigame room. there are a few others but thats the main idea, and thats what that entry was referring to
The Bowser model in the N64 version was always the scariest Bowser to me.
The only iceberg where the iceberg creators are actually asked about the obscure listings.
I don’t understand why to this day, so many people, even ones who know Waluigi isn’t in the game see the rabbit as purple. Like, it’s very clearly Mario’s pink rabbit, just in bad quality.
Cool.
Honestly, I DO think that Super Mario 64 DS and the original are in the same universe and i'd be willing to say that Super Mario 64 DS is a sequel to Super Mario 64. When talking to Koopa The Quick in Bob-omb Battlefield for the first time (as Yoshi) he mentions that you, Mario, quote "Long time no see. You've put on a few pounds since I last saw you." Long time no see, huh? I think it's safe to say that SM64DS comes after the original in a timeline sense.
Yoshi not entering big boos haunt is a reference to the fact that you cannot take him into the Ghost houses in Super Mario World
Awesome vid can wait to see the Waluigi iceberg next
man i remember when i was a kid i thought the 64 version was a remake of the ds version
I think Yoshi probably can't damage Ghosts because of his Strenght Stat.
The instruction Manual of the gane shows the stats of the Chars, with 3 beeing the highest and 1 the lowest.
I believe Yoshi hat a stat of Zero, witch makes him Unable to destroy any block, since Yoshi never uses his hands. I think the Ghosts are Connected to a needed Strenght Stat of 1, in Order to prevent him from entering ANYTHING in the Backyard.
What's the big deal with everyone wanting waluigi in different games isn't sports and party games enough?!