You guys are so wrong about Seagal. He personally trained me to survive breakfast, lunch, and dinner at a Golden Corral without using the bathroom once and still have room for a late night snack at Taco Bell.
Unless I'm mistaken, the SEAL to the Admiral's left shoulder is Captain Dale Dye, USMC (R). He was the technical advisor to Saving Private Ryan. Must have been a cameo, because this film - in retrospect - is pure DIsney.
Yep Dale Dye was in this and he is or was a technical advisor and actor in a lot of films to include Platoon, Saving PR, and a slew of others. He was a Marine and I believe he was in the battle of Hue during Tet in Vietnam 1968.
he told me.. that is someone comes at me... i should kick him in the throat.. like that (lifts foot 6 inches off the ground).. "some peoples necks are down there"
The story was set on a reactivated World War 2-era Iowa-class battleship. All the old guys were brought back to train the crew on operating the 16" guns and the ancient steam propulsion system.
It was in the active reserve fleet. In the Camden and Philadelphia Mothball fleet has these old WW2 ships. I was on CV 63 and deployments on these old ships is much worse. The kids have wi-fi on the ship new.....
'These guys are professionals, they can take out 20 Marines, and 100 Cooks'. The "professionals" proceed to spray and pray into a refrigerator, with their fake suppressed HK 94s. Always got me. 🤣
I think you are confusing Hapkido with Aikido. Both are similar in the joint lock arena however Hapkido is more of a mixed bag (MMA) style than the extremely traditional Aikido. Aikido is a form of Japanese fighting that was used if, and only if, you are disarmed from your Samurai sword and face an enemy that is likely still armed. The Aikido art RELIES HEAVILY on the fact that the enemy has the aggression and forward momentum because Aikido is entirely a defensive art which redirects energy of motion. In a real fight is nearly useless against a trained opponent especially when they have a boxing or Thai boxing background of an kind where strikes are made from a defensible stance. Aikido relies heavily on the enemy OVEREXTENDING themselves which doesn't happen in modern fighting hand to hand - consider Muay Thai, Boxing, Silat, Krav, Karate etc,....As a side note I'm a long time martial artists and I advise anyone to look elsewhere for an effective combat style. However, if you are a traditionalist who likes ancient period methods and traditions Aikido and traditional Karate are for you. Just don't develop an ego with it because that will be put in check very quickly. Basically, DON'T be a Steven Segall in the end.
Traditional karate trained is very good, Muay Thai champions often lost against karate guys and I've fought lots of styles using it, nowadays its watered down. Now I've even seen BJJ schools that don't roll full contact for safety reasons.
When I was Ops SGM for 5th Group, I had a guy assigned to me who had been an 18C, but he messed up real bad and the command reclassified him as a cook. My point: You were a cook who went SF (I'm glad you did) and this guy was a GB who went cook. Command made a sound decision.
The knife scenes of Under Siege are typical of Filipino Kali, which is a lethal weapons fighting style. Stab to the femoral, stab to to the brachial or axillary artery - all kill spots. It helped lend some bit of authenticity to what a well-trained soldier could do with just a blade in hand.
Lol. Never thought I would laugh so hard through Under Siege. Seagal at one time was a legitimate martial artist, but years of detraining, alcoholism and narcissism has made him a joke and a pariah in the martial arts and film communities. His art is Aikido, not Hopkido. One is a derivative of jujitsu, the other has aspects of jujitsu in it. Time for some history: Jujitsu originated from Japan. It was the eclectic fighting art of the samurai. Though there were close quarter strikes, the vast majority of techniques were centered on throws, and standing, seated and ground submissions. This, because, the samurai usually fought opponents who wore armor. Punching and kicking armor is not very productive. Up until the late 16th century, jujitsu was only taught to samurai by samurai. Once separated from the sword it could be taught more widely. After the samurai fell from favor of the emperor, the samurai, kenjutsu and jujitsu went underground. It was during this time that Japanese spin-off arts developed,. Aikido and Kano's Judo - Kodokan judo were two of these. Kano's original judo was more brutal than the standard Olympic judo we know today. Kano's judo, which started out with over 120 throws , contained throws and submission techniques that have been banned in modern judo. The eclectic art of original or combat jujitsu was beginning to disappear and probably would have, if not for American military personnel that remained behind after WW2. Army ranger, Antonio Pereira, was one of these veterans that brought CJJ to the U.S. It was around this same time that a Japanese businessman and Kodokan black belt ventured out to Brazil and taught Helio Gracie's uncle, who in turn taught Helio. Not long after his black belt, Helio dumps the judo stand-up for western wrestling takedowns and thus was born, Brazilian jujitsu (BJJ). Hopkido, was developed by the Koreans and essentially took some of the throws and joint locks from jujitsu and added them to Korean karate. The current UFC is not the original. Technically, MMA goes back centuries, but had largely disappeared from the sports world, particularly in western countries until guys like Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris and the Gracie's came a!ong. Lee trained in everything he could get access to and Chuck obtained black belts in Tang Soo Do, Tae Kwan Do and judo. He favored and mostly taught Tang Soo Do and judo, but falsely marketed it as Tae Kwan Do, due to it's popularity. Lee and Norris, a 7 time PKA champ, made popular the concept of MMA. 1993, the first UFC, pre Dana White and barely any rules. This early attempt at restoring MMA fighting to the western world, was developed by the Gracie's in order to market BJJ in America. Back then karate, wrestling and boxing dominated combative sports and martial arts training in the U.S. The Gracie's shopped the world for competitors and were pretty certain they found the likely finalist to oppose the Gracie's entry in Ken Shamrock. Shamrock was a beast and a sports fighting veteran who had wrestled in college, boxed and fought shuto for years. The Gracie's were careful to field, not their best, nor biggest fighter, but one that could pass as the club tennis pro. It worked. Joyce Gracie fought Ken Shamrock to a draw and Gracie BJJ began to spread like wildfire. Eventually, this raw, no weight class, anything goes, except eye gouging and biting, would be outlawed in most states after late Sen John McCain would label it, "human cockfighting." Shitokan would temporarily become it's surrogate, until Dana White steps in and provides the rules and weight classes necessary to make it legit and grow it. My background: 50+ years of studying, fighting and teaching martial arts. I have a couple of black belts and mid level belts in the other arts I've trained in, which include: Tang Soo Do, CJJ, BJJ, boxing, wing chun, judo, kenpo, muay Thai kb, and Shitokan
Aikido is a real martial art, it was developed with a specific purpose in mind. And that was to defend yourself if you don’t have a sword and your attacker has a sword. The idea was someone is charging with a sword you use their momentum to stop them and hopefully take their sword and now you’re armed.
Yep, Aikido is also not meant to be used "stand alone" its best to use it in combination with another martial art. Its just going to make it easier to control your opponents, the best thing to do if learning aikido is to learn jujitsu and judo as well, this gives you the ability to use your enemies own limits against them far better than sticking to one particular style of martial arts. I myself started out with boxing and TKD but then kinda branched out into kick boxing, but i learned pretty quick that i needed something more to be able to defend myself and control the flow of the fight better. So i started taking up both aikido and jujitsu and ive rolled with guys who ask me if im using jujitsu or not because they've never seen some things being done before, its only when they realize im not relying simply on jujitsu that people realize its good to know these particular skills. When i did TKD i was taught by a 4th dan who trained SK SF units, he also had black belt in jujitsu and judo. Lucky for me he also had a friend who taught aikido and judo but had higher rank in judo than he did. People try to say a complete over the shoulder throw isnt possible, but their wrong. Its very possible if you understand center of gravity leverage and how the body works.
Aikido's principle says you use up the attacker's energy and turn it against him/her. Consists lots of evading moves and limb twisting technics. Aikido, also, has some basic kicking boxing technics and use weapons as well..
and the aikido guy doesn't flip the attacker. the aikido guy is trying to snap your elbow or wrist. the attacker is flipping in order to untwist himself. so the movement you see is: 1. I attack you. 2. you aikido me. 3. I escape from your aikido by flipping out of the arm lock
I took an Aikido class in collage and we eventually learned disarming techniques. The instructor actually used to work with Seagal before he blew up(physically and metaphorically), he actually wrote a passage in the booklet/DVD we had to buy for the class. Apparently even back then Seagal was an asshole.
I trained in aikido many years ago. Most of us trained in other art forms as well, but there for sure are some legit techniques, which i'm sure you've used before and didn't realize. It's similar to jujutsu in ways. Of course limiting yourself to one art form isn't practical and i agree that Steven is a douche. Oh, and aikido isn't an art (war) it's "the way". lol
A lot of the custody/control stuff I was taught in my former life as a state corrections officer was based on Aikido or at least that’s what we were told. The joint locks etc did actually work for me on the occasions I had to use them, so I imagine like anything it’s a matter of the right application for the situation. My experiences were more controlling people to the ground and on the ground rather than flipping them 20 feet across a mat or across a bar in a movie though lol.
The only older guys I found on a naval museum was on board the USS Midway. They were aircraft techs in their eighties. They were building a pair of replacement wings for a Corsair fighter working some hours a week. Doing volunteer work for the museum, and these guys were part of the "Midway" complement back in the Korean war. Those men truly knew the meaning of the word "service".
I feel like Tommy Lee Jones was phoning it in while also giving the best performance in this movie, which is only part of what makes this movie great. We can't forget the force that is Gary Busey, this is also up there in his performances, except Silver Bullet wins it for his best performance. His performance of Uncle Red is the type of drunk uncle to tell his nephew in a wheelchair that he'll kick his ass, but also build him a wheelchair that goes 40-50mph, while fighting a werewolf.
If you have ever watched Lethal Weapon in the fight scenes you can tell how they used real martial arts to choreograph their fights. Its impressive how accurate they considering it was the 80s and they were using moves nobody was familiar with until ufc. You can see it particularly in the first movie at the end when Mel Gibson fights that dude in the mud
if you do the research the street fighting style that gibson was doing developed in prison in the mid 70's called jail house rock not something too many under 40' crowd would have known about
the mp5 fires 800 rounds per minute. On full auto it will take about 2.25 seconds to empty a 30 round magazine. Most versions does come with 3 round burst fire mode though so he couldve probably just switched to that instead of controlling the burst himself.
Aikido is the sport form Aikijutsu (Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu). The later was really designed for dealing with men in armor when in close proximity. Just like many other forms, there are useful techniques you can learn from it, but it's hardly helpful in a bar fight. I trained pretty extensively in several styles in my youth. But really, the best training I ever got was bouncing in a rough biker bar. Most of the fancy crap doesn't work, and wrapping someone up on the ground = a kick to the back of your head.
@@retroliftsprs Using it as an unincorporated, strict form of combat... Mostly true. But having a basis in any traditional form+experience+real street fights, can work fantastically. Learning what your body can do, training for stamina, and learning to get hit, are all extremely valuable. When I was bouncing, and in real word fight, the basic understanding of throws and grapples from judo, movement and balance from karate, and joint manipulation from aikido, were all extremely useful. 90% of the fights I got in at a bar or club, ended from just grabbing a wrist. Like I said above, it all can add tools to your knowledge. Dismissing it is stupid. Also understanding that most traditional schools vary. My initial training was in a Hawaiian form of karate that incorporated a lifetime of knowledge from a man who fought for his life and in tournaments. Never paint with a broad brush when talking shit. It just proves ignorance.
@@topherthered I have trained in quite a few. Kenpo, win Chung, thai chi ect. I'm well aware of what they all do and they do not work in a fight. Aikido is bs. What does work is joint manipulation. Thai chi is bs. What does work is cutting angles and getting off the center line. All the extra movements is pointless when there are more direct ways to achieve a goal. Judo is a legitimate wrestling technique so I disregard that but 99% of artistic forms are exactly that. Artistic. They are less effective like the tiger claw in kung fu. Why tf would I scratch an eye when it is quicker and more brutal for me to make a fist with my middle knuckle slightly out and crush their eye. It is stupid to try and scratch the eye when there are more effective ways to achieve the same goal. Why would I try and dance their leg out from under them in thai chi when I can inside thigh kick them till they can't walk straight. Case in point the stuff doesn't work or not as well as actual fighting techniques.
@@retroliftsprs still painting with broad strokes while trying to make counterpoint to something I never said. I do find it amusing though, whenever people make statements online about certain martial arts these days, it's always copy/paste, word for word, statements from The Joe Rogan Experience.
@@topherthered whatever man I don't watch Joe Rogan so not sure where you got that but everything I said comes from experience. I don't have the time to Wright a whole case study for you on a youtube comment section so I gave you a few key points. But by all means keep doing your martial arts I honestly could care less I have just learned from personal experience that it doesn't really work. You do you.
Oxy torche would easily cut through that like a plasma cutter. You can also weld with them, depends on the flame you make with it. Flame depends on the oxygen and acetylene ratio.
Some ideas for more reviews: - The "Sniper" franchise (with Tom Berenger)😅 - One Shot (with Scott Adkins) 👍🏻 - Executive Decision (with Kurt Russel) - Foxtrott Six (Asian movie, slightly sci-fi-ish) - Shooter (with Mark Wahlberg, realism of "plastic bottle silencer & Black Ops") 😅 - The Kingdom (with Jamie Foxx) - Spartan (with Val Kilmer, Delta Force, undercover) 👍🏻 - The Wild Geese (with Richard Burton leading Paratrooper-Mercs into Africa) 👍🏻 - Rules of Engagement (Samuel L. Jackson) - Some TV Shows, like "The Unit, Seal Team, Strike Back, Flashpoint, SWAT)
The “special friend” who said “hey Case are you OK?” (Same scene with actor who played Miklo in Blood in Blood out) played Tuco Salamanca in Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul. You guys should review “Executive Decision” another Siegel movie. That would be hilarious.
Yeah.. They don't get it.. Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer\Cannon Group. Is the same people that produced Chuck Norris movies.. They don't have Big Budgets.. They just entertain you with Martial Arts Movies.. Hell they might have made some Bruce Lee movies. I might look that up..
I think Seagal uses throws and joint manipulations of Aikido in combination with other forms, including Wing Chun (his use of the vertical fist strike) and what could be a long teep from Muay Thai. I don't think I've ever heard him come out and say that his fighting on screen is exclusively Aikido.
14:17 little did you know (Raymond Cruz) started out in the navy but when he got out he became a gang banger (Training day) to become a cartel drug king pin (breaking bad )😂
It's AI-KI-DO The way of love and harmony, It's Defense only! It takes a very long time to be proficient at it to be used effectively, it has very good wrist locks and joint manipulation, redirecting your opponents energy, the harder an opponent comes at you the worse for them, this is the only martial art where you also protect the attacker, it is also used for spiritual development. Never heard of Hakido, " Hapkido is taken from Aikido especially the wrist locks and joint manipulation and geared it towards street application. If you're looking for a martial art consider " Ameridote " Best of All Worst of None, taught by Master Ken, you can check him out at Master Ken's privates. One more thing Steven Seagull defected from the greatest country the good ol' US of A 🇺🇸 and went to Russia. Thank you and God Bless 🙏🏻
FINALLY someone who knows what the hell they're talking about. I took it for four years as a kid. 🙄🤦🏽♂️ Anywho, I've seen so many liars on here try roa explain what it is and what it means. You can literally tell they just copied and pasted the Wikipedia page.
I did martial arts my whole life.....Aikodo is a real....ly useless art bc it relies on your opponent having ZERO fighting ability and just rushing towards you. Very much like Kung Fu being bullshit. IF however you were just running and lunging at an Aikido master he would do well. But if a skilled fighter, keeping his base was throwing punches or kicks at you'd be useless and get KO'd Aikodo, Kung Fu, TKD, and almost all traditional martial arts are dogshit. FYI Steven "Wonderboy" Thomason is a Karate guy not TKD
Lmao the guy that asks if steven’s ok @ 14:17 also comes out in blood in blood out he’s the dude that plays chuey! With the bandanna in the beginning of the film with miklo lmao 😂
Aikido is real. It's just gone the way of most Martial Arts who's practicioners didn't adapt and grow. Especially here in the U.S. Most folks who "train" today don't really train as fighters and are not true Martial Artists. They are Hobbyist, who get embarrassed when someone crushes their "good enough" training. So yeah, Western Aikido and most other modern M.A. practicioners are untrained "Paper Tigers". I was one, until I got lucky and got some actual l martial arts training. The conditioning was hell, technique drills and sparring was the main source of fun as well as pain. We would messing around and would be taking it easy with each other....But when we did the same with untrained folks (the same speed holding way back)...they got hurt. Just because our physical conditioning especially our bones were harder. The training was legit. Had to learn to gauge our strength against folks. It's about the people teaching and how bad the students want it. How good of a fighter do they want to be. In T.M.A. reps, become hours, become years of: technique drills timing drills strength conditioning & body and bone toughening (blocks, elbows, leg kicks) Grip strength esp Sparring: light to full contact with gear and restrictions Class work A little blood or minor injuries no problem My teacher taught Hung Gar. With some Boxing, TKD and Muay Thai cross training. Realistic application trained for the purpose of self defense not prize fighting. Just self defense, we learned requires you to stay in top shape. If you train to be a prize fighter, military,... it's a different levels intensity, intent and urgency etc., That's my old man's rant for the day. It's how you find "what works" and "make" things some things "work" for You. There is no ultimate judge on M.A. If you are learning to fight, you'll know. You will be so beat up and worn out just getting out of bed hurts. You make gains and it seems like you get "hurt" less. More, if you aren't serious or settle for just good enough.
Part of the movie's plot is the retirement of the USS Missouri(?) battleship; in their wisdom, the Navy wanted some of the "original crew" to man the battlewagon, hence the "ancient mariners" aboard.
That's Steven Siegal's top movie. Under siege his only movies nominated for academy award. Steven Siegal should play more native Americans movies. His tribe is not from Washington state. The Cayuga tribe is part of the Iroquois league from upper New York state.
I'm starting to love your channel, but this movie is fucking bad arse entertainment. BTW, if you've ever seen the movie, the reason the old guys are there is it is a ceremonial decommissioning cruise. So they had all sorts of retired old farts who'd been on the IOWA during WWII...that's why they knew how to use the old 16 inch guns.
The upside down grip on the mag was old school way some would use for stacking two mags. Instead of side to side as you would see some I seem seen a few what I’d now call tip to butt the magazine so you didn’t have to pull a second mag from a pouch. As for how effective it was I never seen anyone use it in combat as it stopped you getting lower in the prone and would most certainly allow dirt and mud into the mag when you did go prone. Maybe a good method in the early for CQB and working in a clean environment doing CT work. But with easier access to magazines now with more ergonomic setups and pouch designs with open top good mag retention I’d say no need with todays gear.
I Don't know his actual military career, but Dale Dye was at the round table. He used to do the advising for the early medal of honor games and saving private Ryan I believe.
Aikido was so much fun back in the day, you do move around nothing like the movies or people that do techniques over TH-cam. I did a test just showing the techniques i learned within 7 months of training, surround by black belts that were really humbling training in those months, mostly joint manipulations and some hip throws, had 6 guys that surrounds you in a circle and then one by one they come out you with a technique a grab, two handed grab, or a knife hand strike. It was about five or tens minutes of them running at you with the techniques it was crazy insane but fun. Instructor was Dave a little guy with glasses that had a dojo and he taught at a middle school at night on Tuesdays and Thursdays around 8pm I asked him one night why he teaches at the middle school, he said it pays for his phone at his dojo. Humble instructor. Great times too. These two guys beers and breakdowns are hilarious.I would like these guys to have a training session with Steven Seagal and see what they say afterwards! :)
Seagal doesn't live in the US anymore, but there are still 1st generation Seagal black belts that teach in across the United States. Haruo Matsuoka, Larry Reynosa, Craig Dunn, Acie Mitchell, Jorge Angulo. All these guys are outstanding and have very practical combat skills.
Took Judo in college. The Dojo had an old crusty Korean dude that taught Aikido aside the Judo school. (Early 90s) I played practice dummy a few times for his students. It got old really quick getting put in various locks and bars that hurt way too much. It required strength, but seemed a great way with dealing with drunks and idiots. I never learned enough to give a professional opinion if it could be used against another style.
Hey guys, love your videos. FYI, I took Aikido for 7 years. Even though in the beginning, your training partner is obliged to "go along" with the throw, as you get higher up, this starts to go away. As your training partner rises up through the ranks, they also get better and better at being thrown so they don't get hurt. In a brown belt situation, if your training partner doesn't "throw" themselves, then you might actually break their wrist as you perform your throw. In a real world hand to hand situation, where the aggressor is not trained to go with the flow, Aikido is extremely effective in disabling your opponent because they won't be able to anticipate the effectiveness of what you're about to do to them. I've only had to use it 3 times in 25 years in self-defense, and each time the "fight" was over before it began by my ability to lock them up, incapacitating them without injuring them. Once this happens, their only options are to give up or to severely injure themselves by either continuing to attack or escape. This ability to paralyze your opponent also has the side effect of radically reducing your legal exposure since you're not actually injuring them. Keep up the great work!
Aikido is arguably the most influential, important and technically complex martial art in the world. It's not even debatable dude. I could literally go on for hours on this topic but if you really dive deep into the fundamentals, evolution and history the effectiveness will be obvious. If I have to add some links and citations for you to put some respect on aikido's name, then I will dude.
The haikido bit had me laughing so hard! You two have a great dynamic!
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Great reaction. The only issue from my side is calling Aikido fake. Aikido is legit martial art. Granted, it is not as destructive and powefrul as for instance BJJ, Taekwon-do and many others. It´s aim never was to be some "top martial art" and never was a competitive martial art. From my tiny understanding of Aikido, it is more a way of finding inner self-balance and improving form, affecting life similar way (not as intensely) as bushido. I see Aikido as more philosophical and spiritual path with some ability to defend yourself, not as primary aggresive or destructive martial art - a bit similar to Tai Chi. (however this comparison is not accurate)
if an aikido instructor ever says learn aikido and you won't need any other training to win a fight they'd be lying. however, I challenge you to find an instructor who ever said that.
Gene Lebell was Judo and Catch-as-catch-can wrestling (which is a tragically underrated fighting system) There's no shame in being choked out by that man.
Good stuff Sean, but i want to point out that Hapkido is an Korean martial art! could not tell if you were joking the whole time with the Aikido (Hapkido) as you calld it all the time! And if you were you got me!😅 But Aikido is an Japanese art that works on pressure points and the opponents movement/force
As a genuine martial arts practioner....I reserve and abstain from any opinion regarding aikido... Except for the aikido/hapkido thing.....legend has it that the two masters that developed each art respectively trained together. Have you seen a Hapkido demo compared to Aikido? Shit is brutal, even though combatants from both forms teach you how to fall.
Hey Buck! Great channel bro! Serious question for you as I think about my journey towards SF but I have a major concern. It has been said that SF is deployed to over 70% of all countries worldwide. I have to say this tends to make me seriously question whose interests are being served sometimes. In some ways I honestly find it seriously hard to believe that to serve US National security or even purely altruistic purposes for other countries that every operation conducted is for this reason. I am definitely a patriot, so I’m concerned that it is possible that if I got into SF that I could be the muscle behind something I didn’t ultimately understand or was serving personal political interest or even that of multi National corporations that benefit them and not my own people. Did you ever feel this way as an operator or did you ever question what exactly you were doing at times and whose interests you were serving? Did any of your team or any other operator feel disenfranchised at times? Thanks Buck!
I think people should research more into Daito-ryu Aiki-Jujutsu. Aikido is a modern and softer version of that. Aiki-jujutsu has both hard and soft techniques - its brutal and can be used offensively. I'm pretty sure that when people say Aikido is what the Samurais practiced, what they really mean is Aiki-jujutsu. Also, many may not know that the family tree of Aiki-jujutsu branches off into Korean Hapki-Yusul and its modern version Hapkido.
The Japanese martial art of Aikido is a comprehensive system of throwing, joint-locking, striking and pinning techniques, coupled with training in traditional Japanese weapons such as the sword, staff and knife. Creator: Morihei Ueshiba Focus: Throwing, Grappling and Joint Manipulation My wife is Japanese from Osaka and she took 4 years of training in Aikido and Naginata. Our daughter did two years in Dallas. Its designed to allow a smaller lighter person take advance of a larger persons weight momentum and or aggression and turn it against them.
Aikido was developed to help defenseless peasants defend themselves from a samurai with a weapon. When they're not using a weapon, use a different discipline.
Of course Aikido is real. It's roots come from the samurai in Japan. I studied in London with England's top instructor, with a direct line of teaching going back 100 years.
Did you guys all use guns with these special bullets that didn't ricochet in compartments? LOL. This was hilarious. But Abel is FOS that Pete Davidson is greater than The Master.
Dale Dye USMC Ret., the assistant of the admiral in the movie has consulted in several movies. I just don't know if he consulted in this. He's credited only as an actor.
Walking into a movie theatre involves the "suspension of disbelief" to enjoy what in reality is "An illusion of light & sound". Reality is irrelevant & most likely, it's counter productive.
Aikido is for real. The Met Police, London, and Hong Kong Police both trained me and my fellow officers in aikido. It's designed to control and put down an opponent when you are unarmed. As long as you're well-practiced, it's very effective!
It's funny! Just because you don't know how or it's not in the UFC it's fake! Seagal training is combat aikido not traditional! Understand the difference in why his style of fighting is more brutal than traditional aikido! He also learned other styles along the way! Seagal is legit! It's easy to call someone out without knowing their martial art background! Challenge him!
Bro love your show, always dreamed going SF when I was a kid (& now lol) but alas ,I met Mr Motherfucking Brownstone at the age 18 and that was that most my life. I’m 50 last April n clean again. Just for today… Oh btw that show “The Ranch” sux Ass bro. Lmao.
The first time I saw this, I wondered why 2 minutes after they found the ship taken over had nukes aboard it, some USAF geek wouldn't have reprogrammed an ICBM to be launched from Minot. A MIRV would have fallen from the sky and 370 KT would have detonated over the ship and it would have gone to the bottom of the ocean. No nukes would be captured by anybody but we would lose an old battleship and some sailors. Problem solved.
Aikido is a real martial arts fighting style. Aikido is a samurai last ditch effort when he loses his weapon in battle. It’s more legit than UFC seeing as 98% of UFC doesn’t know real MMA. (Majority of UFC fights end the exact same arm bar/triangle choke/Kimura choke) I have a black in kickboxing and a red belt in taekwondo 🥋 it’s evident they don’t know proper MMA because they never shift their weight and choke out the person who’s choking them. Just saying
I'm little late to the party, but if I may, I'd add few things regarding how useful Aikido is. IMHO, top 2 or 5% of Aikido practitioners can actually use it in real life situation. you can train whole day every day, but just the adrenaline rush from someone actually trying to hurt you will freeze so many folks. I remember when I was doing kick boxing and we had some karate guys coming. first time they get hit in the head, they would stand and be lost, because no one ever hit them for real in karate. friend of my was doing Aikido for years and he got into the street fight with some weirdo, probably a junkie, and he said he couldn't apply anything he learned in that fight. later he transitioned to krav maga and then boxing, said totally different stuff. on the other hand, there are people how can really use Aikido well. when I was doing Jujitsu (traditional, not Brasilian) my teacher was also teaching Aikido as well. and people who were doing Aikido said you can't touch him. people tried to attack him with double (training) knives and bats and what nots, and he was doing Steven Seagal stuff left and right, people were flying everywhere and no one could come close to hitting him. but on the other hand, and this was like 10 years ago, he was at the time iirc black belt 5th dan in Jujutsu, 3rd Dan in Aikido, or what ever raking they have, 1st dan in karate (not sure what branch) 1 dan judo, bein training martial arts consistently for over 30 years and ex military special forces in former Yugoslavia. oh yeah, and he was doing fencing and salsa dancing as well :D never seen anyone so fluid throwing people around like him. at that time, I was late 20's, early 30's, 191cm, around 105kg ( 6'3", 225lbs ish) he was in I think 50s, 5'7", 165lbs, in that range, and he was throwing me around like in cartoons, like a rag dol. and all in such fluid movements that it seemed like was dancing.
You guys are funny but you should watch the whole movie first and do a little research. One old guy said he was a gunners mate on that ship from 1942-1946. He even said it in the dialogue. Technical advisor, Marine Corps Capt and Viet Nam vet Dale Dye was sitting to the Admiral’s left. He is the founder of Warriors Inc. a technical advisor company for Hollywood.
So is Aikido fake or real: Yes and no. Bear with me and this will also come as a surprise for most practitioners Post ww2 Japan had to market culture out to the world, Korea is doing the same thing with kpop and tv-shows, in that endeavor they actually watered down jujutsu, military bayonet drills, close combat drills and sold it off as a "peaceful defensive martial art". It isnt. They dont teach you this until you make it to 2.dan (about 3-4 years in) or until you start asking the right questions "why is this guy holding my wrist and why am I not straight up decking him". Well, because you are actually the attacker. You are actually trying stab him with a knife/dagger/tanto etc. and he is trying to protect himself by going for the threat (wrist grabs), at that point you go into joint locks twist etc. and manage to shank him. There is an old recording of the "founder" of the martial art (we call him O'Sensei, a veteran of Russo-Japanese war himself) performing the techniques with a mock bayonet and rifle. So you can't sell that to civilians in foreign countries can you? Post WW2? Hell no. So what ends up happening is you pay for 2-4 years of courses/sessions, all you see is this aesthetic stuff, which is fun in its own right, but after 2-4 years if you do your research and break away from the so called "traditional path" you realize holy cow, I'm not the good guy here at all, I'm am the stabby stabby guy.
Not being a martial artist at all, I don’t think it is effective in a real fight. When I was DEA and especially as a Federal Air Marshal, we did Krav Maga…brutal but, effective. Two weapons simultaneously…you won’t hit anything! This movie is kind of a comedy show! 🤣
Buck, you should watch the film "Haywire" with Gina Carano. It was made when she first burst on the scene and directed by a major director. It has the most realistic fight scenes in movie history.
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You guys should to a video on a few clips of that TV show The Unit. I'd be interested to hear some commentary!
@@napalmstickylikeglue good call!
I wanna go to the seminar but already started my enlistment process
@NotMyRealName damn straight. I would love to see a reboot. Like with Mac as team leader, Bob as his #2, then new members.
You guys are so wrong about Seagal. He personally trained me to survive breakfast, lunch, and dinner at a Golden Corral without using the bathroom once and still have room for a late night snack at Taco Bell.
What a legend
poser.
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Lol😊
Steven Seagal used both facial expressions in this movie -a classic!
Unless I'm mistaken, the SEAL to the Admiral's left shoulder is Captain Dale Dye, USMC (R). He was the technical advisor to Saving Private Ryan. Must have been a cameo, because this film - in retrospect - is pure DIsney.
Yep Dale Dye was in this and he is or was a technical advisor and actor in a lot of films to include Platoon, Saving PR, and a slew of others. He was a Marine and I believe he was in the battle of Hue during Tet in Vietnam 1968.
dye was the tech consul
for platoon
Steven Seagal trained me up for SFAS, he told me he’s been a Green Beret for like 43 years
He told me he was Jazz musician.
lol nice
he told me.. that is someone comes at me... i should kick him in the throat.. like that (lifts foot 6 inches off the ground).. "some peoples necks are down there"
Steven Seagal potty trained me. The most coveted tab is the Potty tab.💩💩💩 Our motto is Semper Poopy!!!
@@jeffreyrose4240 I like havardi cheese the most
The story was set on a reactivated World War 2-era Iowa-class battleship. All the old guys were brought back to train the crew on operating the 16" guns and the ancient steam propulsion system.
It was in the active reserve fleet. In the Camden and Philadelphia Mothball fleet has these old WW2 ships. I was on CV 63 and deployments on these old ships is much worse. The kids have wi-fi on the ship new.....
'These guys are professionals, they can take out 20 Marines, and 100 Cooks'.
The "professionals" proceed to spray and pray into a refrigerator, with their fake suppressed HK 94s. Always got me. 🤣
so ridiculous lmao
Lol! I know right? The on set tactical advisor should have been fired!
LOL.. Then get fucked up by the Microwave bomb....After one guy takes a throwing knife to the neck...No pay check for them dudes...
I think you are confusing Hapkido with Aikido. Both are similar in the joint lock arena however Hapkido is more of a mixed bag (MMA) style than the extremely traditional Aikido. Aikido is a form of Japanese fighting that was used if, and only if, you are disarmed from your Samurai sword and face an enemy that is likely still armed. The Aikido art RELIES HEAVILY on the fact that the enemy has the aggression and forward momentum because Aikido is entirely a defensive art which redirects energy of motion. In a real fight is nearly useless against a trained opponent especially when they have a boxing or Thai boxing background of an kind where strikes are made from a defensible stance. Aikido relies heavily on the enemy OVEREXTENDING themselves which doesn't happen in modern fighting hand to hand - consider Muay Thai, Boxing, Silat, Krav, Karate etc,....As a side note I'm a long time martial artists and I advise anyone to look elsewhere for an effective combat style. However, if you are a traditionalist who likes ancient period methods and traditions Aikido and traditional Karate are for you. Just don't develop an ego with it because that will be put in check very quickly. Basically, DON'T be a Steven Segall in the end.
I think aikido was too late for Samurai anything
Traditional karate trained is very good, Muay Thai champions often lost against karate guys and I've fought lots of styles using it, nowadays its watered down. Now I've even seen BJJ schools that don't roll full contact for safety reasons.
He's saying it like HA-Kido. Like he's making fun of it.
I like sushi 🍣.
@@samuelplacensia9979 I too like sushi 🍣
When I was Ops SGM for 5th Group, I had a guy assigned to me who had been an 18C, but he messed up real bad and the command reclassified him as a cook. My point: You were a cook who went SF (I'm glad you did) and this guy was a GB who went cook. Command made a sound decision.
Really should have had Andy as a special guest star for this episode since he does so love Seagull
lmao! his favorite!
@@FNGACADEMY bring Andy to review Marked for Death
He likes seagulls? How odd..
"Full auto is for Actors and Assholes"- Stumpfism
Haha so true
The advisor probably was Dale Dye, he was on the officer table. The other thing I wonder how he got so much ammo, they way he sprayed and prayed.
The knife scenes of Under Siege are typical of Filipino Kali, which is a lethal weapons fighting style. Stab to the femoral, stab to to the brachial or axillary artery - all kill spots.
It helped lend some bit of authenticity to what a well-trained soldier could do with just a blade in hand.
Bingo! Seagal is a longtime friend of Dan Inosanto and has trained blade work with him for years.
Lol. Never thought I would laugh so hard through Under Siege. Seagal at one time was a legitimate martial artist, but years of detraining, alcoholism and narcissism has made him a joke and a pariah in the martial arts and film communities. His art is Aikido, not Hopkido. One is a derivative of jujitsu, the other has aspects of jujitsu in it. Time for some history: Jujitsu originated from Japan. It was the eclectic fighting art of the samurai. Though there were close quarter strikes, the vast majority of techniques were centered on throws, and standing, seated and ground submissions. This, because, the samurai usually fought opponents who wore armor. Punching and kicking armor is not very productive. Up until the late 16th century, jujitsu was only taught to samurai by samurai. Once separated from the sword it could be taught more widely. After the samurai fell from favor of the emperor, the samurai, kenjutsu and jujitsu went underground. It was during this time that Japanese spin-off arts developed,. Aikido and Kano's Judo - Kodokan judo were two of these. Kano's original judo was more brutal than the standard Olympic judo we know today. Kano's judo, which started out with over 120 throws , contained throws and submission techniques that have been banned in modern judo. The eclectic art of original or combat jujitsu was beginning to disappear and probably would have, if not for American military personnel that remained behind after WW2. Army ranger, Antonio Pereira, was one of these veterans that brought CJJ to the U.S. It was around this same time that a Japanese businessman and Kodokan black belt ventured out to Brazil and taught Helio Gracie's uncle, who in turn taught Helio. Not long after his black belt, Helio dumps the judo stand-up for western wrestling takedowns and thus was born, Brazilian jujitsu (BJJ). Hopkido, was developed by the Koreans and essentially took some of the throws and joint locks from jujitsu and added them to Korean karate.
The current UFC is not the original. Technically, MMA goes back centuries, but had largely disappeared from the sports world, particularly in western countries until guys like Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris and the Gracie's came a!ong. Lee trained in everything he could get access to and Chuck obtained black belts in Tang Soo Do, Tae Kwan Do and judo. He favored and mostly taught Tang Soo Do and judo, but falsely marketed it as Tae Kwan Do, due to it's popularity. Lee and Norris, a 7 time PKA champ, made popular the concept of MMA. 1993, the first UFC, pre Dana White and barely any rules. This early attempt at restoring MMA fighting to the western world, was developed by the Gracie's in order to market BJJ in America. Back then karate, wrestling and boxing dominated combative sports and martial arts training in the U.S. The Gracie's shopped the world for competitors and were pretty certain they found the likely finalist to oppose the Gracie's entry in Ken Shamrock. Shamrock was a beast and a sports fighting veteran who had wrestled in college, boxed and fought shuto for years. The Gracie's were careful to field, not their best, nor biggest fighter, but one that could pass as the club tennis pro. It worked. Joyce Gracie fought Ken Shamrock to a draw and Gracie BJJ began to spread like wildfire. Eventually, this raw, no weight class, anything goes, except eye gouging and biting, would be outlawed in most states after late Sen John McCain would label it, "human cockfighting." Shitokan would temporarily become it's surrogate, until Dana White steps in and provides the rules and weight classes necessary to make it legit and grow it.
My background: 50+ years of studying, fighting and teaching martial arts. I have a couple of black belts and mid level belts in the other arts I've trained in, which include: Tang Soo Do, CJJ, BJJ, boxing, wing chun, judo, kenpo, muay Thai kb, and Shitokan
I didn't realize I was watching Seigal! I thought it was a Buck documentary! Thanks for the clarification! 😂🤣
Keep on keeping on Boyz! 🇺🇲🤘🏼
lmao thanks homie!
Where TF you learn how to spell?
Dude!!! You guys gotta do a Beers and Breakdowns of EVERY 80's/90's war movie 🤣😂🤣😂🙏
This episode had me rollin😂🤣🤣😂
Aikido is a real martial art, it was developed with a specific purpose in mind. And that was to defend yourself if you don’t have a sword and your attacker has a sword. The idea was someone is charging with a sword you use their momentum to stop them and hopefully take their sword and now you’re armed.
Yep, Aikido is also not meant to be used "stand alone" its best to use it in combination with another martial art. Its just going to make it easier to control your opponents, the best thing to do if learning aikido is to learn jujitsu and judo as well, this gives you the ability to use your enemies own limits against them far better than sticking to one particular style of martial arts. I myself started out with boxing and TKD but then kinda branched out into kick boxing, but i learned pretty quick that i needed something more to be able to defend myself and control the flow of the fight better. So i started taking up both aikido and jujitsu and ive rolled with guys who ask me if im using jujitsu or not because they've never seen some things being done before, its only when they realize im not relying simply on jujitsu that people realize its good to know these particular skills. When i did TKD i was taught by a 4th dan who trained SK SF units, he also had black belt in jujitsu and judo. Lucky for me he also had a friend who taught aikido and judo but had higher rank in judo than he did. People try to say a complete over the shoulder throw isnt possible, but their wrong. Its very possible if you understand center of gravity leverage and how the body works.
I want a sword
Aikido's principle says you use up the attacker's energy and turn it against him/her. Consists lots of evading moves and limb twisting technics. Aikido, also, has some basic kicking boxing technics and use weapons as well..
and the aikido guy doesn't flip the attacker. the aikido guy is trying to snap your elbow or wrist. the attacker is flipping in order to untwist himself. so the movement you see is: 1. I attack you. 2. you aikido me. 3. I escape from your aikido by flipping out of the arm lock
I took an Aikido class in collage and we eventually learned disarming techniques. The instructor actually used to work with Seagal before he blew up(physically and metaphorically), he actually wrote a passage in the booklet/DVD we had to buy for the class. Apparently even back then Seagal was an asshole.
I trained in aikido many years ago. Most of us trained in other art forms as well, but there for sure are some legit techniques, which i'm sure you've used before and didn't realize. It's similar to jujutsu in ways. Of course limiting yourself to one art form isn't practical and i agree that Steven is a douche. Oh, and aikido isn't an art (war) it's "the way". lol
A lot of the custody/control stuff I was taught in my former life as a state corrections officer was based on Aikido or at least that’s what we were told. The joint locks etc did actually work for me on the occasions I had to use them, so I imagine like anything it’s a matter of the right application for the situation. My experiences were more controlling people to the ground and on the ground rather than flipping them 20 feet across a mat or across a bar in a movie though lol.
Looks like you forgot what you read at the end there. Aikido means: The Way of Harmony.
@@wadewilson8011 read? it wasn't anything I read. not sure what some other dojo calls it, the one I attended calls it, "the way".
The only older guys I found on a naval museum was on board the USS Midway. They were aircraft techs in their eighties. They were building a pair of replacement wings for a Corsair fighter working some hours a week. Doing volunteer work for the museum, and these guys were part of the "Midway" complement back in the Korean war. Those men truly knew the meaning of the word "service".
I feel like Tommy Lee Jones was phoning it in while also giving the best performance in this movie, which is only part of what makes this movie great. We can't forget the force that is Gary Busey, this is also up there in his performances, except Silver Bullet wins it for his best performance. His performance of Uncle Red is the type of drunk uncle to tell his nephew in a wheelchair that he'll kick his ass, but also build him a wheelchair that goes 40-50mph, while fighting a werewolf.
If you have ever watched Lethal Weapon in the fight scenes you can tell how they used real martial arts to choreograph their fights. Its impressive how accurate they considering it was the 80s and they were using moves nobody was familiar with until ufc. You can see it particularly in the first movie at the end when Mel Gibson fights that dude in the mud
Rorion Gracie was the fight coordinator for the first film.
That dude is the same dude that plays the officer Segal punched in the face. Gary Busey. I'm not proud I know that.
@@eddiehaskell1957 🙄
if you do the research the street fighting style that gibson was doing developed in prison in the mid 70's called jail house rock not something too many under 40' crowd would have known about
@@eddiehaskell1957 That is a side affect of growing older, but not neccessary wiser, my friend!
the mp5 fires 800 rounds per minute. On full auto it will take about 2.25 seconds to empty a 30 round magazine. Most versions does come with 3 round burst fire mode though so he couldve probably just switched to that instead of controlling the burst himself.
Aikido is the sport form Aikijutsu (Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu). The later was really designed for dealing with men in armor when in close proximity. Just like many other forms, there are useful techniques you can learn from it, but it's hardly helpful in a bar fight. I trained pretty extensively in several styles in my youth. But really, the best training I ever got was bouncing in a rough biker bar. Most of the fancy crap doesn't work, and wrapping someone up on the ground = a kick to the back of your head.
traditional martial arts only work if they are using it as well. other than that its kind of pointless.
@@retroliftsprs Using it as an unincorporated, strict form of combat... Mostly true. But having a basis in any traditional form+experience+real street fights, can work fantastically. Learning what your body can do, training for stamina, and learning to get hit, are all extremely valuable. When I was bouncing, and in real word fight, the basic understanding of throws and grapples from judo, movement and balance from karate, and joint manipulation from aikido, were all extremely useful. 90% of the fights I got in at a bar or club, ended from just grabbing a wrist. Like I said above, it all can add tools to your knowledge. Dismissing it is stupid. Also understanding that most traditional schools vary. My initial training was in a Hawaiian form of karate that incorporated a lifetime of knowledge from a man who fought for his life and in tournaments. Never paint with a broad brush when talking shit. It just proves ignorance.
@@topherthered I have trained in quite a few. Kenpo, win Chung, thai chi ect. I'm well aware of what they all do and they do not work in a fight. Aikido is bs. What does work is joint manipulation. Thai chi is bs. What does work is cutting angles and getting off the center line. All the extra movements is pointless when there are more direct ways to achieve a goal. Judo is a legitimate wrestling technique so I disregard that but 99% of artistic forms are exactly that. Artistic. They are less effective like the tiger claw in kung fu. Why tf would I scratch an eye when it is quicker and more brutal for me to make a fist with my middle knuckle slightly out and crush their eye. It is stupid to try and scratch the eye when there are more effective ways to achieve the same goal. Why would I try and dance their leg out from under them in thai chi when I can inside thigh kick them till they can't walk straight. Case in point the stuff doesn't work or not as well as actual fighting techniques.
@@retroliftsprs still painting with broad strokes while trying to make counterpoint to something I never said. I do find it amusing though, whenever people make statements online about certain martial arts these days, it's always copy/paste, word for word, statements from The Joe Rogan Experience.
@@topherthered whatever man I don't watch Joe Rogan so not sure where you got that but everything I said comes from experience. I don't have the time to Wright a whole case study for you on a youtube comment section so I gave you a few key points. But by all means keep doing your martial arts I honestly could care less I have just learned from personal experience that it doesn't really work. You do you.
I think recognise Dale Dyer at the admirals table hes a retired Marine and Vietnam vet used as tech advisor in a number of war movies (ie Platoon)
The XO's description of culinary creativity " Lard Omelet " is accurate if you've ever had Navy " chow/food "
"Casey Fucking Ryback."
"Who the fuck is Casey Fucking Ryback?"
Best lines of the movie.
Oxy torche would easily cut through that like a plasma cutter. You can also weld with them, depends on the flame you make with it. Flame depends on the oxygen and acetylene ratio.
Some ideas for more reviews:
- The "Sniper" franchise (with Tom Berenger)😅
- One Shot (with Scott Adkins) 👍🏻
- Executive Decision (with Kurt Russel)
- Foxtrott Six (Asian movie, slightly sci-fi-ish)
- Shooter (with Mark Wahlberg, realism of "plastic bottle silencer & Black Ops") 😅
- The Kingdom (with Jamie Foxx)
- Spartan (with Val Kilmer, Delta Force, undercover) 👍🏻
- The Wild Geese (with Richard Burton leading Paratrooper-Mercs into Africa) 👍🏻
- Rules of Engagement (Samuel L. Jackson)
- Some TV Shows, like "The Unit, Seal Team, Strike Back, Flashpoint, SWAT)
Y'all need to watch Cockpuncher. Best Steven Segal movie of all time
These movie review videos are genuinely fun to watch. Excellent work.
thank you!
The “special friend” who said “hey Case are you OK?” (Same scene with actor who played Miklo in Blood in Blood out) played Tuco Salamanca in Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul.
You guys should review “Executive Decision” another Siegel movie. That would be hilarious.
Yeah.. They don't get it.. Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer\Cannon Group. Is the same people that produced Chuck Norris movies.. They don't have Big Budgets.. They just entertain you with Martial Arts Movies.. Hell they might have made some Bruce Lee movies. I might look that up..
Ray Cruz....I remember that cat from Training Day and Clear and Present Danger
I think Seagal uses throws and joint manipulations of Aikido in combination with other forms, including Wing Chun (his use of the vertical fist strike) and what could be a long teep from Muay Thai. I don't think I've ever heard him come out and say that his fighting on screen is exclusively Aikido.
John Rottger, ex Navy Seal, is listed in the credits as Technical Director
14:17 little did you know (Raymond Cruz) started out in the navy but when he got out he became a gang banger (Training day) to become a cartel drug king pin (breaking bad )😂
Bullshit. He was in the navy?
It's AI-KI-DO The way of love and harmony, It's Defense only! It takes a very long time to be proficient at it to be used effectively, it has very good wrist locks and joint manipulation, redirecting your opponents energy, the harder an opponent comes at you the worse for them, this is the only martial art where you also protect the attacker, it is also used for spiritual development. Never heard of Hakido, " Hapkido is taken from Aikido especially the wrist locks and joint manipulation and geared it towards street application. If you're looking for a martial art consider " Ameridote " Best of All Worst of None, taught by Master Ken, you can check him out at Master Ken's privates. One more thing Steven Seagull defected from the greatest country the good ol' US of A 🇺🇸 and went to Russia. Thank you and God Bless 🙏🏻
FINALLY someone who knows what the hell they're talking about. I took it for four years as a kid. 🙄🤦🏽♂️ Anywho, I've seen so many liars on here try roa explain what it is and what it means. You can literally tell they just copied and pasted the Wikipedia page.
@@wadewilson8011 Greetings, thank you for the compliment, yeah that was frustrating to listen to, hopefully that helped some people with their seeking
I did martial arts my whole life.....Aikodo is a real....ly useless art bc it relies on your opponent having ZERO fighting ability and just rushing towards you. Very much like Kung Fu being bullshit.
IF however you were just running and lunging at an Aikido master he would do well. But if a skilled fighter, keeping his base was throwing punches or kicks at you'd be useless and get KO'd
Aikodo, Kung Fu, TKD, and almost all traditional martial arts are dogshit.
FYI Steven "Wonderboy" Thomason is a Karate guy not TKD
Lmao the guy that asks if steven’s ok @ 14:17 also comes out in blood in blood out he’s the dude that plays chuey! With the bandanna in the beginning of the film with miklo lmao 😂
crazy how that worked out
Aikido is real. It's just gone the way of most Martial Arts who's practicioners didn't adapt and grow. Especially here in the U.S. Most folks who "train" today don't really train as fighters and are not true Martial Artists. They are Hobbyist, who get embarrassed when someone crushes their "good enough" training. So yeah, Western Aikido and most other modern M.A. practicioners are untrained "Paper Tigers".
I was one, until I got lucky and got some actual l martial arts training. The conditioning was hell, technique drills and sparring was the main source of fun as well as pain. We would messing around and would be taking it easy with each other....But when we did the same with untrained folks (the same speed holding way back)...they got hurt. Just because our physical conditioning especially our bones were harder. The training was legit. Had to learn to gauge our strength against folks.
It's about the people teaching and how bad the students want it. How good of a fighter do they want to be. In T.M.A. reps, become hours, become years of: technique drills
timing drills
strength conditioning & body and bone toughening (blocks, elbows, leg kicks)
Grip strength esp
Sparring: light to full contact with gear and restrictions
Class work
A little blood or minor injuries no problem
My teacher taught Hung Gar. With some Boxing, TKD and Muay Thai cross training. Realistic application trained for the purpose of self defense not prize fighting. Just self defense, we learned requires you to stay in top shape. If you train to be a prize fighter, military,... it's a different levels intensity, intent and urgency etc., That's my old man's rant for the day.
It's how you find "what works" and "make" things some things "work" for You. There is no ultimate judge on M.A. If you are learning to fight, you'll know. You will be so beat up and worn out just getting out of bed hurts. You make gains and it seems like you get "hurt" less. More, if you aren't serious or settle for just good enough.
Part of the movie's plot is the retirement of the USS Missouri(?) battleship; in their wisdom, the Navy wanted some of the "original crew" to man the battlewagon, hence the "ancient mariners" aboard.
That's Steven Siegal's top movie. Under siege his only movies nominated for academy award. Steven Siegal should play more native Americans movies. His tribe is not from Washington state. The Cayuga tribe is part of the Iroquois league from upper New York state.
How dare you confuse Harry and Marv. Those two are national treasures
I'm starting to love your channel, but this movie is fucking bad arse entertainment. BTW, if you've ever seen the movie, the reason the old guys are there is it is a ceremonial decommissioning cruise. So they had all sorts of retired old farts who'd been on the IOWA during WWII...that's why they knew how to use the old 16 inch guns.
15:00 I can't believe that you missed (during his intrduction), that he clearly stated he served during WW2 '44-'47.
The upside down grip on the mag was old school way some would use for stacking two mags. Instead of side to side as you would see some I seem seen a few what I’d now call tip to butt the magazine so you didn’t have to pull a second mag from a pouch. As for how effective it was I never seen anyone use it in combat as it stopped you getting lower in the prone and would most certainly allow dirt and mud into the mag when you did go prone. Maybe a good method in the early for CQB and working in a clean environment doing CT work. But with easier access to magazines now with more ergonomic setups and pouch designs with open top good mag retention I’d say no need with todays gear.
For its time its was effective i believe, just like any martial arts. They have their stint in time until someone develops something better.
Very true . We forget cause now we’re in the now , but at the time it was as intense as the new stuff coming out .
It was great for fully armored but heavy samurais (armors weight roughly 37 pounds)
The Military Technical Adviser for this film was also starring in it. Dale Dye. He was at the table with the Joint Chiefs @ 18:38
Love these breakdowns guys!
thank you!
I Don't know his actual military career, but Dale Dye was at the round table. He used to do the advising for the early medal of honor games and saving private Ryan I believe.
Didn’t realize how hilarious buck is
well thanks
Aikido was so much fun back in the day, you do move around nothing like the movies or people that do techniques over TH-cam. I did a test just showing the techniques i learned within 7 months of training, surround by black belts that were really humbling training in those months, mostly joint manipulations and some hip throws, had 6 guys that surrounds you in a circle and then one by one they come out you with a technique a grab, two handed grab, or a knife hand strike. It was about five or tens minutes of them running at you with the techniques it was crazy insane but fun. Instructor was Dave a little guy with glasses that had a dojo and he taught at a middle school at night on Tuesdays and Thursdays around 8pm I asked him one night why he teaches at the middle school, he said it pays for his phone at his dojo. Humble instructor. Great times too.
These two guys beers and breakdowns are hilarious.I would like these guys to have a training session with Steven Seagal and see what they say afterwards! :)
Seagal doesn't live in the US anymore, but there are still 1st generation Seagal black belts that teach in across the United States. Haruo Matsuoka, Larry Reynosa, Craig Dunn, Acie Mitchell, Jorge Angulo. All these guys are outstanding and have very practical combat skills.
Took Judo in college. The Dojo had an old crusty Korean dude that taught Aikido aside the Judo school. (Early 90s) I played practice dummy a few times for his students. It got old really quick getting put in various locks and bars that hurt way too much. It required strength, but seemed a great way with dealing with drunks and idiots. I never learned enough to give a professional opinion if it could be used against another style.
This was fucking hilarious guys!! Please keep em coming lmfao
Hey guys, love your videos. FYI, I took Aikido for 7 years. Even though in the beginning, your training partner is obliged to "go along" with the throw, as you get higher up, this starts to go away. As your training partner rises up through the ranks, they also get better and better at being thrown so they don't get hurt. In a brown belt situation, if your training partner doesn't "throw" themselves, then you might actually break their wrist as you perform your throw. In a real world hand to hand situation, where the aggressor is not trained to go with the flow, Aikido is extremely effective in disabling your opponent because they won't be able to anticipate the effectiveness of what you're about to do to them. I've only had to use it 3 times in 25 years in self-defense, and each time the "fight" was over before it began by my ability to lock them up, incapacitating them without injuring them. Once this happens, their only options are to give up or to severely injure themselves by either continuing to attack or escape. This ability to paralyze your opponent also has the side effect of radically reducing your legal exposure since you're not actually injuring them. Keep up the great work!
God this has to be the worst cringepost
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The ship was being retired so they had a lot of older people that had served on the boat for the ceremony. According to the story line.
I hosted a seminar with Gokor at my school in the early 2000's. Awesome stuff and he was a great guy.
he's super legit!
Funny as buggery with the 'haikido' talk.
Segal did help train Anderson Silva, just sayn
I live where this movie was filmed on the USS Alabama
Aikido is arguably the most influential, important and technically complex martial art in the world. It's not even debatable dude. I could literally go on for hours on this topic but if you really dive deep into the fundamentals, evolution and history the effectiveness will be obvious. If I have to add some links and citations for you to put some respect on aikido's name, then I will dude.
Not sure if your trolling or delusional but… 😂🤣😂🤣
@@williamflowers9435 lol I was definitely trolling
@@williamflowers9435 was hoping old buck would bite
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@@williamflowers9435 don't you realize this is Steven Seagal himself?? 🤣🤣
Also!!!! As for the gap! It was bridged with actor/martial artist Tony Jaa in his “Ong Bak” movie series. As well as “The Protector” series.
Soooo sound like Roadhouse is on the Brew review lists 🤔
The haikido bit had me laughing so hard! You two have a great dynamic!
Great reaction.
The only issue from my side is calling Aikido fake. Aikido is legit martial art. Granted, it is not as destructive and powefrul as for instance BJJ, Taekwon-do and many others. It´s aim never was to be some "top martial art" and never was a competitive martial art. From my tiny understanding of Aikido, it is more a way of finding inner self-balance and improving form, affecting life similar way (not as intensely) as bushido.
I see Aikido as more philosophical and spiritual path with some ability to defend yourself, not as primary aggresive or destructive martial art - a bit similar to Tai Chi. (however this comparison is not accurate)
Aka useless as self defense
if an aikido instructor ever says learn aikido and you won't need any other training to win a fight they'd be lying. however, I challenge you to find an instructor who ever said that.
I’m hyped they know blood in blood out hahahah
Gene Lebell was Judo and Catch-as-catch-can wrestling (which is a tragically underrated fighting system) There's no shame in being choked out by that man.
The chokeout never happened. Debunked by eyewitness stuntman Steven Lambert and stunt director Conrad Palmisano.
I love Tommie Lee Jones character. And if you thought the writing was bad in this, watch Under Seige 2.
Haha “I did the thing you gotta flip over😂😂”
94 Bravo, Rock On Solid...
It's Sunday Funday Buck! What a way to kick the day off beers bros & action movies crack the 🍻🍺 & get the 🍿
love it!
@@FNGACADEMY keep Killin' It man, love your outlook on life & the content you post on your channel! Always look forward to it
Good stuff Sean, but i want to point out that Hapkido is an Korean martial art! could not tell if you were joking the whole time with the Aikido (Hapkido) as you calld it all the time! And if you were you got me!😅 But Aikido is an Japanese art that works on pressure points and the opponents movement/force
Listening to you two argue over 7% ABV while I’m sitting here with a glass of 62% ABV bourbon, lol
As a genuine martial arts practioner....I reserve and abstain from any opinion regarding aikido... Except for the aikido/hapkido thing.....legend has it that the two masters that developed each art respectively trained together. Have you seen a Hapkido demo compared to Aikido? Shit is brutal, even though combatants from both forms teach you how to fall.
Hey Buck! Great channel bro! Serious question for you as I think about my journey towards SF but I have a major concern. It has been said that SF is deployed to over 70% of all countries worldwide. I have to say this tends to make me seriously question whose interests are being served sometimes. In some ways I honestly find it seriously hard to believe that to serve US National security or even purely altruistic purposes for other countries that every operation conducted is for this reason. I am definitely a patriot, so I’m concerned that it is possible that if I got into SF that I could be the muscle behind something I didn’t ultimately understand or was serving personal political interest or even that of multi National corporations that benefit them and not my own people. Did you ever feel this way as an operator or did you ever question what exactly you were doing at times and whose interests you were serving? Did any of your team or any other operator feel disenfranchised at times? Thanks Buck!
Big respect to everybody who has put in their time defending this country. But I struggled with that question for awhile.
I think people should research more into Daito-ryu Aiki-Jujutsu. Aikido is a modern and softer version of that. Aiki-jujutsu has both hard and soft techniques - its brutal and can be used offensively.
I'm pretty sure that when people say Aikido is what the Samurais practiced, what they really mean is Aiki-jujutsu.
Also, many may not know that the family tree of Aiki-jujutsu branches off into Korean Hapki-Yusul and its modern version Hapkido.
The Japanese martial art of Aikido is a comprehensive system of throwing, joint-locking, striking and pinning techniques, coupled with training in traditional Japanese weapons such as the sword, staff and knife.
Creator: Morihei Ueshiba
Focus: Throwing, Grappling and Joint Manipulation
My wife is Japanese from Osaka and she took 4 years of training in Aikido and Naginata. Our daughter did two years in Dallas. Its designed to allow a smaller lighter person take advance of a larger persons weight momentum and or aggression and turn it against them.
It’s also not an effective fighting style against anyone with any experience whatsoever.
It's also easy to choke someone out who does Aikido and make them 💩 their pants
Good description, still useless "martial art"
Its great to see the competent power bottom giving us his take on this classic movie
omfg i havnt smiled this much in 13 yrs good shit boss
Aikido was developed to help defenseless peasants defend themselves from a samurai with a weapon.
When they're not using a weapon, use a different discipline.
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Of course Aikido is real. It's roots come from the samurai in Japan. I studied in London with England's top instructor, with a direct line of teaching going back 100 years.
Did you guys all use guns with these special bullets that didn't ricochet in compartments? LOL. This was hilarious. But Abel is FOS that Pete Davidson is greater than The Master.
“Do the flip dude” 😂😂
Aikido's real . . . But it's worthless for an actual fight. Steven should've done Judo.
Dale Dye USMC Ret., the assistant of the admiral in the movie has consulted in several movies. I just don't know if he consulted in this. He's credited only as an actor.
Walking into a movie theatre involves the "suspension of disbelief" to enjoy what in reality is "An illusion of light & sound". Reality is irrelevant & most likely, it's counter productive.
Aikido is for real. The Met Police, London, and Hong Kong Police both trained me and my fellow officers in aikido. It's designed to control and put down an opponent when you are unarmed. As long as you're well-practiced, it's very effective!
It's funny! Just because you don't know how or it's not in the UFC it's fake! Seagal training is combat aikido not traditional! Understand the difference in why his style of fighting is more brutal than traditional aikido! He also learned other styles along the way! Seagal is legit! It's easy to call someone out without knowing their martial art background! Challenge him!
Steven Segal American value: $500
Steven Segal Value in China: $1,000,000
This actually makes sense…
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Really? I worship the ground he walks on and carry his picture everywhere I go for inspiration. Now, who were we talking about again?
lmao
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was a gunner's mate in
WW2
on the USS MISSOURI
that's why he was there for the
SHIP RETIREMENT CEREMONY
you guys have obviously never
been to the
PENTAGON BRIEFING ROOM
it's literally old white guys
sitting around trying to figure
shit out
Aikido is mad fake lol
Bro love your show, always dreamed going SF when I was a kid (& now lol) but alas ,I met Mr Motherfucking Brownstone at the age 18 and that was that most my life.
I’m 50 last April n clean again. Just for today…
Oh btw that show “The Ranch” sux Ass bro. Lmao.
The first time I saw this, I wondered why 2 minutes after they found the ship taken over had nukes aboard it, some USAF geek wouldn't have reprogrammed an ICBM to be launched from Minot. A MIRV would have fallen from the sky and 370 KT would have detonated over the ship and it would have gone to the bottom of the ocean. No nukes would be captured by anybody but we would lose an old battleship and some sailors. Problem solved.
“Flip your fuc-“ 😂😂😂😂😂
Aikido is a real martial arts fighting style. Aikido is a samurai last ditch effort when he loses his weapon in battle. It’s more legit than UFC seeing as 98% of UFC doesn’t know real MMA. (Majority of UFC fights end the exact same arm bar/triangle choke/Kimura choke) I have a black in kickboxing and a red belt in taekwondo 🥋 it’s evident they don’t know proper MMA because they never shift their weight and choke out the person who’s choking them. Just saying
I'm little late to the party, but if I may, I'd add few things regarding how useful Aikido is. IMHO, top 2 or 5% of Aikido practitioners can actually use it in real life situation. you can train whole day every day, but just the adrenaline rush from someone actually trying to hurt you will freeze so many folks. I remember when I was doing kick boxing and we had some karate guys coming. first time they get hit in the head, they would stand and be lost, because no one ever hit them for real in karate. friend of my was doing Aikido for years and he got into the street fight with some weirdo, probably a junkie, and he said he couldn't apply anything he learned in that fight. later he transitioned to krav maga and then boxing, said totally different stuff. on the other hand, there are people how can really use Aikido well. when I was doing Jujitsu (traditional, not Brasilian) my teacher was also teaching Aikido as well. and people who were doing Aikido said you can't touch him. people tried to attack him with double (training) knives and bats and what nots, and he was doing Steven Seagal stuff left and right, people were flying everywhere and no one could come close to hitting him. but on the other hand, and this was like 10 years ago, he was at the time iirc black belt 5th dan in Jujutsu, 3rd Dan in Aikido, or what ever raking they have, 1st dan in karate (not sure what branch) 1 dan judo, bein training martial arts consistently for over 30 years and ex military special forces in former Yugoslavia. oh yeah, and he was doing fencing and salsa dancing as well :D never seen anyone so fluid throwing people around like him. at that time, I was late 20's, early 30's, 191cm, around 105kg ( 6'3", 225lbs ish) he was in I think 50s, 5'7", 165lbs, in that range, and he was throwing me around like in cartoons, like a rag dol. and all in such fluid movements that it seemed like was dancing.
You guys are funny but you should watch the whole movie first and do a little research. One old guy said he was a gunners mate on that ship from 1942-1946. He even said it in the dialogue. Technical advisor, Marine Corps Capt and Viet Nam vet Dale Dye was sitting to the Admiral’s left. He is the founder of Warriors Inc. a technical advisor company for Hollywood.
So is Aikido fake or real: Yes and no. Bear with me and this will also come as a surprise for most practitioners
Post ww2 Japan had to market culture out to the world, Korea is doing the same thing with kpop and tv-shows, in that endeavor they actually watered down jujutsu, military bayonet drills, close combat drills and sold it off as a "peaceful defensive martial art". It isnt. They dont teach you this until you make it to 2.dan (about 3-4 years in) or until you start asking the right questions "why is this guy holding my wrist and why am I not straight up decking him". Well, because you are actually the attacker. You are actually trying stab him with a knife/dagger/tanto etc. and he is trying to protect himself by going for the threat (wrist grabs), at that point you go into joint locks twist etc. and manage to shank him.
There is an old recording of the "founder" of the martial art (we call him O'Sensei, a veteran of Russo-Japanese war himself) performing the techniques with a mock bayonet and rifle. So you can't sell that to civilians in foreign countries can you? Post WW2? Hell no. So what ends up happening is you pay for 2-4 years of courses/sessions, all you see is this aesthetic stuff, which is fun in its own right, but after 2-4 years if you do your research and break away from the so called "traditional path" you realize holy cow, I'm not the good guy here at all, I'm am the stabby stabby guy.
Not being a martial artist at all, I don’t think it is effective in a real fight. When I was DEA and especially as a Federal Air Marshal, we did Krav Maga…brutal but, effective. Two weapons simultaneously…you won’t hit anything! This movie is kind of a comedy show! 🤣
Buck, you should watch the film "Haywire" with Gina Carano. It was made when she first burst on the scene and directed by a major director. It has the most realistic fight scenes in movie history.