How are dinosaur footprints and eggs evidence for a global Flood? - Dr. Art Chadwick
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Back at the Hanson Ranch bone bed fossil repository, taphonomist Art Chadwick explains how various aspects of the fossil record--including dinosaur footprints, death postures, and dinosaur eggs--fit with the idea of a global Flood. He next talks about evolutionary trees and the complexity that is evidence even in the fossils found in the lowest layers.
Dr. Chadwick received his PhD in Molecular Biology from the University of Miami in 1969. After re-training in geology and paleontology at University of California and University of Oklahoma, he has worked in the fields of taphonomy and sedimentary geology. His interests include basinal and suprabasinal sedimentologic trends, involving especially the analysis of paleocurrents and other directional structures, and he is developing a model for the taphonomy of dinosaur bonebeds. He is currently Research Professor of Biology and Geology at Southwestern Adventist University and Director, Dinosaur Science Museum and Research Center at Southwestern Adventist University.
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Thanks as always. Having to stay home these last few months has been a blessing having more time to study Scripture along with watching programs like this. The work you guys do brings honor and glory to The GOD of Jacob as it should be. The Lord is worthy to be praised forever, and HIS power and Glory should never be underestimated. Those who trust in The Lord will not be ashamed.
@Harry Denny By what knowledge do you know these things? God is almighty, he can do all things but sin (sin is against God for he is just, holy, love). He could of not allow this happen , but what if 10 milllion people get saved because of the virus?What if this is a warning from him to warn us to turn to him or prepare for a even worse virus? What if this is setting up for his plan that he already set in place to redeem man ? How do you know? Do you know all things? Can you count and name all the stars? Or know every number of hair on your head? No? well , for sure God knows. Just because God allows it doesn't mean he endorse it. In matter of fact he doesn't want to, but because he is just: he must punish sin.
For we have sin against Him, He accursed the earth with death, diseases, famine, etc. The law (ten commandments) is the law that we broke and the wages of sin is death. BUT God had a plan even before he created us; for he loves us. He manifested as a man Jesus Christ, in which he lived a prefect life without sin. He later died for our sins on the cross , ultimately paying off the sins (wages), that why his last words was "it is finished" .Furthermore, if we repent (turn away from sin) and trust in Jesus Christ, he legally let you go to heaven, by his grace and not of works.
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IN MY CHURCH TAUGHT US, THAT NOAH DID NOT SAVE ALL THE KINDS OF ANIMALS!,
HE SAVED ONLY THE KIND OF ANIMALS THAT GOD INSTRUCTED TO SAVE
Why do they know that in my Church, because of this;
"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth" -JOHN 16
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@Juan H Who is The Savior of Noah and The Name of God, we have to call for salvation of our souls according to your church?
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Jesus is the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through him
Del, this is a very well put together series,, that I have greatly enjoyed. I have thought about flood issues, dinosaurs, pre-flood world etc. all my life, and this whole series just makes sense. Our God is Awesome and Great.
our God is Truth, this video series is full of lies.
@smitty121981 So instead of calling the video lies: Make your own video, and do a rebuttal! Simply saying video is full of lies, PROVE YOUR POINT!!!!😮😮😮
These videos are a true God send,.. love it! Keep 'em coming.
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IN MY CHURCH TAUGHT US, THAT NOAH DID NOT SAVE ALL THE KINDS OF ANIMALS!,
HE SAVED ONLY THE KIND OF ANIMALS THAT GOD INSTRUCTED TO SAVE
Why do they know that in my Church, because of this;
"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth" -JOHN 16
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At a professional conference, I overhead two geologists discussing Dr. Brand's research on Coconino footprints, and one of them said "I found it so offensive." That's an odd reaction to geological research.
Because it is a religion to them. They pretend it’s science but it takes much more faith to believe what they believe than the actual truth
@@howdydoodey3872 Did you read the paper before deciding it was fake/a joke/plagiarized?
I have known since a small child that God was in control and the Bible was true. God bless you all. Love these videos.
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IN MY CHURCH TAUGHT US, THAT NOAH DID NOT SAVE ALL THE KINDS OF ANIMALS!,
HE SAVED ONLY THE KIND OF ANIMALS THAT GOD INSTRUCTED TO SAVE
Why do they know that in my Church, because of this;
"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth" -JOHN 16
TH-cam CChanel: Iglesia La Luz del Mundo - Ortodoxia (available in English language)
How did you know that?
If God is in control, does this mean he created Covid-19?
@@martinpattison8916 lol no .bill gates and the chinesse are behind that
@@professorneturman2249 yep. umm? what s definition of outsmarting.
Fascinating!
Thanks fo another high quality presentation. You have a very inspirational channel.
If these fossils were caused by the flood, where are all the human fossils that would have been buried at the same time?
It's not just humans that are missing from the Flood-derived fossil record. Most mammals, birds and flowering plants are absent as well. These organisms seem to represent an ecological community that existed before the Flood, but was not preserved in the fossil record like the communities inhabited by dinosaurs or trilobites. One suggestion as to why this is so is that these organisms were living near a subduction zone (where the ocean floor plunges into the Earth's interior) that became activated during the Flood and were completely destroyed. Another possibility advocated by some creation scientists is that the streams that watered the region around Eden (Genesis 2:6,10) might have been fed by one of the "fountains of the great deep" which broke open during the Flood. If the mammals, birds and humans were living in this region, then the break-up of this spring may have resulted in their total destruction. The precise reason for the absence of this human/mammal/flowering plant community from the Flood fossil record awaits further insights from future research.
There are human fossils, but they are generally quite broken up, probably because humans were among the last creatures to succumb to the flood.
If the "fountains of the deep" exploded and water washed over the land, the first creatures to be covered would be the smaller, stationary, and less-mobile ones, because they had no means of escaping, so we would expect to see them in the lowest mud layers (now rock), and that's what we see. (Note that this mud deposition would also occur under the sea; it happens even today with earthquakes. So even marine animals got buried.) As we go up through the layers, the embedded fossils are of creatures that are increasingly mobile, meaning they could escape for longer before succumbing and being buried by the next mud layer. We move from worms and arthropods up through fish, amphibians, reptiles, dinosaurs, mammals and birds. (We also see a decrease in the numbers of phyla, classes, orders, families, genuses, and species as we go up through the layers - exactly the opposite of what evolution would produce.)
Mobility wouldn't be the only factor; there would be factors such as intelligence, and warm-bloodedness vs. cold-bloodedness in regards to tolerating the changing climate that came with the flood. Not only were people among the more mobile of creatures, they were also the smartest, and so were able to avoid destruction to the very end. By this time, most of the earth would have been under water, and so when the people died, their remains floated and broke up before sinking and being covered, so complete skeletons are rare to non-existent. And then the waters began to recede. Voila - the fossil record, formed within one year. No fossils in the precambrian layer, then a burst of fossils in the cambrian (which scientists call the "cambrian explosion" - a "sudden appearance of life," which was actually the beginning of the flood extinction). Then the creatures are increasingly *mobile* (not increasingly "complex" because there is no such thing as a simple creature) going up through the layers, and then the modern surface of the earth, which was much like the precambrian. Only in the present surface do we have erosional features, which do not exist between the layers, indicating that the layers were all formed in a short time.
I recommend Walter Veith, "Bones in Stones" and "Where Mammals Reigned," and other videos in the "Genesis Conflict" series.
Another consideration is that geologists and paleontologists start with _assumptions_ about what their findings mean. So if they find human remains, they will innocently _assume_ they must be young. If they find them in the Cambrian layer, they would never publish a paper declaring man in the Cambrian Era because peer review would reject the paper as obviously erroneous.
@@KenJackson_US These are my issues with the Scientists and the Theologians. If a Scientists finds something that doesn't make "sense" (previous concluded bias), they don't add it to the holistic database (even with a question mark for further assessment) like they should.
When the theologians find physical information that doesn't fit their "model", there is a tendency to justify their perspectives with a new mumbo-jumbo that cannot be supported by real physics.
I am leaning toward an Old Earth with a (or more) cataclysmic reset(s) (cosmic / flood).
I have real issues with the 6000 year old universe model (there is NO reason to believe this age). I also know that my issues are not that important in the light of Jesus Christ.
@@KenJackson_US Starting with guesses is better than starting with the answer like many creationists theories
And there were a couple human remains found in dino-ish layers like luzia woman & moab man but turns out they're still bone & they weren't part of the rock itself. Same for the London hammer. The handle would be gone for sure.
Can you please do another video that talks more of the sorting of the fossils in the layers of rock strata? Basically your (Del's) question from minute 18 until the end of the video. Please elaborate on this topic with more scientific data. Thank you and God bless all of you involved in making these videos. They are a God send!!
We're glad you've been enjoying our content! A video on the order of the fossil record is actually going to be premiering tomorrow, the 7th of July at 3:00 PST. Stay tuned!
@@IsGenesisHistory Wow!! That's great! I've been wondering about this topic for some time now, and look forward to seeing it from a Creation perspective!! Thank you!!
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IN MY CHURCH TAUGHT US, THAT NOAH DID NOT SAVE ALL THE KINDS OF ANIMALS!,
HE SAVED ONLY THE KIND OF ANIMALS THAT GOD INSTRUCTED TO SAVE
Why do they know that in my Church, because of this;
"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth" -JOHN 16
TH-cam CChanel: Iglesia La Luz del Mundo - Ortodoxia (available in English language)
This is absolutely fascinating!
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IN MY CHURCH TAUGHT US, THAT NOAH DID NOT SAVE ALL THE KINDS OF ANIMALS!,
HE SAVED ONLY THE KIND OF ANIMALS THAT GOD INSTRUCTED TO SAVE
Why do they know that in my Church, because of this;
"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth" -JOHN 16
TH-cam CChanel: Iglesia La Luz del Mundo - Ortodoxia (available in English language)
Men before the Flood lived many hundreds of years, and when one hundred years old they were considered but youths. Those long-lived men had sound minds in sound bodies. Their mental and physical strength was so great that the present feeble generation can bear no comparison to them. Those ancients had nearly one thousand years in which to acquire knowledge. They came upon the stage of action from the ages of sixty to one hundred years, about the time those who now live the longest have acted their part in their little short life time, and have passed off the stage. Those who are deceived, and flattered on in the delusion that the present is an age of real progress, and that the human race has been in ages past progressing in true knowledge, are under the influence of the father of lies, whose work has ever been to turn the truth of God into a lie.
This channel has been such a blessing. Science is a false idol without being Christ centered.
It isnt consistent with the sand being deposited in water, the tracks are consistent with the sand being wet. Believe it or not, but it does sometimes rain in the desert, or snow, or hail.
Doing a good work thank you glory to GOD
Thank you for this program
Good work gentleman. Make no mistake, you are saving souls!
I would love to know Dr Chadwick's thoughts on the Ashley Phosphate Beds where apparently the fossils are more mixed together. I think liquefaction as explained by the hydroplate theory by Walt Brown explains the different layers found at the grand canyon but would love to know more.
Sorry but with the liquefaction, it may make some sense but not for the layers that repeat again but in a different order. Like if the flood brought a new round of sediment it should settle the same way, all around the world.
And sorry but the liquefaction doesn't account for Ash layers, volcanic layers, the faunal succession or the number of isotopes left in rocks which is how they get dated.
@@professorneturman2249 Well professor, I feel there is so much proof God does exist
that I just don't feel atheist scientists look objectively at the evidence and ignore/conceal anything that disproves their idea that nothing exploded and created a beautiful universe and stunning planet and a wondrous array of life without any interelect design process. Richard Lewontin, an influential evolutionist, candidly wrote that many scientists (which would include geologists) are willing to accept unproven scientific claims because they “have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.” Many scientists refuse even to consider the possibility of an intelligent Designer because, as Lewontin writes, “we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.”
It really is something each individual has to make his/her own mind up on.
@@professorneturman2249 There is no verifiable scientific evidence for abiogenesis, the big bang, evolution or plate tectonics. These are just theories. Who's going to care about who received a nobel prize when the are living forever in paradise? For me the answers are in the Bible, for you they are in science. Time will tell...
@@Lethoscorpia very prideful of you to assume that all of science is completely wrong just because you can't be bothered to read Genesis above the level of a six year old. "It really is something each individual has to make his/her own mind up on." No, it's really not. The truth is not ours to decide. We only get to decide if we want to accept it. You are lying about evolution so you can pretend it's not true so that you don't have to accept it.
"atheist scientists ignore anything that disproves their idea that nothing exploded " UGGGGHHH. It was a CHRISTIAN PRIEST who first proposed the Big Bang theory, based entirely on his insightful reading of Genesis. You're nothing but hot air.
"There is no verifiable scientific evidence for evolution" That's a lie. You're lying. Bearing false witness is a serious sin. In reality there is copious amounts of rigorous evidence for evolution, including hundreds of millions of fossils and extremely in depth genetic analysis. In fact, evolution is one of the strongest supported theories in all of science. Liars bring shame to God, not glory.
I love this series.
Thank you for sharing this. The fossil record does show us the flood and how the creatures were preserved in the order in which they lived in relation to the oceans. Thank you.
No it does not.
River floods still happening now bury many creatures.Not millions of them and these tracks are in wet sand not under the water,it would have washed it out.
How pretty, and well-preserved is the Phacops alliance fossil that you kindly have shown here. Congratulations on your outstanding labor of a serious and devoted-to-science lifetime experience.
Love this videos! Very informative. One question I've been pondering is why don't see see human fossils?
@@professorneturman2249 I could have worded my question better. I know there are human fossils but I don’t know if we see mass graves of rapidly buried human fossils. I’m a finite creature, I don’t know everything, sorry.
@@professorneturman2249 I watched those channels and read those books for years. I’m a former atheist who was passionate about evolution and studied it at university (not as my major, though). I’ve read Richard Dawkins book the God Delusion, I’ve listened to tons of his interviews and debates, along with Lawrence Krause, Steven Hawking and many others. But I’m an experienced software engineer who understands that DNA is composed of design patterns, algorithms and data structures producing solutions for data compression, error detection, error correction etc. and billions of molecular machines that carry out the work. I don’t care if the universe is 13 trillion years old let alone 13 billion, you don’t get that kind of information through natural selection of random mutation. It only comes from a mind, the Great Mind.
@@xTriad what you are failing to understand is that evolution vs God is a false dichotomy. Yes, DNA is a complex code of information. Evolution is the way in which God programmed it. These men are liars. Your common sense observation that there are no human fossils beneath the very tippy top of the rock strata is all you need to conclude definitively that one single flood event cannot possible account for the physical evidence. There are countless other common sense observations that do the same. If the flood deposited the sand in which those footprints were left, and we know that specific layer of sand extends for hundreds of thousands of square miles and is several hundred feet thick, there is no possible way that any creature was left standing to leave footprints on it by the time is was done being deposited. What you call "random mutation" is God's creativity. What you call "natural selection" is God's judgment separating the wheat from the chaff. We see evolution in all human designs without exception, including programming languages. A creation is not just the end product, it is also the process that arrives at that end product. Evolution is the process of creation. Whether it is God creating or humans creating, it happens through the process of evolution.
Check out Dr. Carl Baugh's Creation Evidence Museum, Glen Rose, TX.
I've been there.
¡Wow!
How pretty, and well-preserved is the Phacops fossil seen in this video. Congratulations on your outstanding, trustworthy extended labor of a serious and devoted to science lifetime existence.
Great video. I love watching your content. You guys and others like you are why I have my channel. I want the world to know the truth.
I appreciate that this channel leaves the comments open (*ahem* answers in Genesis...). However, it is not sound science at all to assume that animal tracks deposited in a wet environment were escaping a flood event. If we're going to delve into reaching/assumptive interpretations, a much more likely one would be that it had just rained. We see this trackway preservation style today in new Mexico's gypsum sand dunes. Still, we can't verify qualitative assumptions on how those tracks were preserved. What we can verify is the age of the coconino sandstone. It is ~260 mya. Every accepted dating technique constrains these deposits to this timeframe, not 6,000 years ago.
Lisle Tenderfoot - _"it is not sound science at all to assume that animal tracks deposited in a wet environment were escaping a flood event."_
*It is sound science when you're talking about lithified tracks, and once you understand how fossils form.*
_"It is ~260 mya. Every accepted dating technique constrains these deposits to this timeframe, not 6,000 years ago."_
*The dating techniques are inherently and demonstrably flawed.*
@@freemind.. Thanks for the dialogue/refutation rather than straight dismissal. In regards to your first comment, we see lithified trackways forming today in active dune environments (ie my new Mexico example). We do not have any observable examples/evidence of lithified trackways forming in high-energy flood environments. If you're aware of any example of this please let me know. Otherwise it does not make sense to assume that is how the coconino tracks formed.
To your second point. If what you mean is that dating techniques rely on assumptions/calibrations, you are correct. However, independent dating methods come to the same conclusion regarding dates, and these dating methods also can be precisely constrained with irrefutable proxy data such as ice cores, tree rings, and varves. I still haven't heard a sensible YEC refutation of these proxy data...
@@lisletenderfoot9216 - Hi, Lisle. Apologies for not responding. I never even knew you had replied to me. To your question about footprints becoming stone along high-energy flood trackways, I know of none. However, I do not make any assumptions about the Coconino Sandstone. Sandstone is not forming anywhere on the surface of the planet today because the lithification process requires a high-temperature / high-pressure aqueous environment that was only extant on the planet's surface at one point in history.. during the Global Flood. The 260myr age you mentioned is not confirmed by tree rings or ice cores as neither claims dates in the millions of years. The only dating schemes that do are radiometric and stratographic dating, and they are laughable as scientific tools.
Wow! So good!
" We see differences in diversity, but we don't see new complexity." Very simple, well-put, and sound reasoning. I hope to learn more from your pieces of evidence for my faith In The Creator Of All.
I am curious why human fossils were not found with Dinosaur bones? I assume they were both there before the Flood?
Good to see Clint Eastwood went into paleontology.
So with that information...it gives me more questions than answers...
I want to be more like Dr. Chadwick.
Me gustaría tanto que fuesen traducidos sus programas al español...que Dios nos lo conceda
The bit about the tracks being made underwater is absurd.
Have you ever tried to make a footprint underwater? It disappears in seconds, if not quicker and, if the water is moving you don't get one at all.
The only way to get a clear print is if it is in mud of just the right firmness and then, for the fossil to survive it would have to be covered by a layer like dry sand which forms more easily eroded rock . This doesn't fit with the one flood idea but does make sense if we think in terms of localised floods like happen all the time even now.
Yeah these men are liars. However, to be fair, the underwater hypothesis did actually get published in a peer review journal in 1991. Look for a paper titled "Fossil vertebrate footprints in the Coconino Sandstone (Permian) of northern Arizona: Evidence for underwater origin". This was written by the creationist Leonard Brand so I am 95% sure this is what they are referring to. He claims in the abstract that the animals were floating in water while making the tracks and that "Observations on salamander locomotion in a sedimentation tank with flowing water support this model."
I remains up for debate scientifically whether or not these specific tracks were made in wet sand, however numerous other footprints in the same Cococino sandstone can be conclusively limited to dry sand and these liars conveniently left that part out.
Of course..... if one single flood is responsible for also depositing that sand which the animals are walking on, nothing would be left alive to walk on it. It's common sense.
I've asked this question in the chat, too: In which (independent, scientific) journal did Dr. Chadwick publish those results?
See the 1991 paper in the journal of Geology by Leonard Brand titled "Fossil vertebrate footprints in the Coconino Sandstone (Permian) of northern Arizona: Evidence for underwater origin" in which he claimed the animals were floating when they made the footprints and that "they were sometimes orienting upslope on the surface of the underwater dunes, while being drifted sideways by lateral currents. Observations on salamander locomotion in a sedimentation tank with flowing water support this model."
However, this is just one of numerous examples of footprints in the Grand Canyon. A much newer find was published in 2020 titled "Early adaptation to eolian sand dunes by basal amniotes is documented in two Pennsylvanian Grand Canyon trackways" and they concluded that these footprints had to have been made in dry sand and that in their case, "Experiments have shown that clearly defined tracks of lizard-size animals in eolian sand are made only when the sand is dry. This includes tracks made by large lizards such as chuckwallas (Sauramalus sp.), which are comparable in size to the Manakacha trackmakers"
Wouldn't a flood event have smoothed or washed away footprints in wet sand? A believer looking for answers.
Sincere question: why don't we find whole areas of fossilized humans wiped out by the great flood?
I think our dates for everything may be wrong,
The history of the earth may be far more older than we think.
God bless.
Thank you, i think you gentlemen makes so much sense. I wonder where are the remains of all of the people who perished?
Greetings @lcg5790,
Glad you enjoyed it! We currently do not know what happened to the remains and artifacts of pre-Flood humans. This is an area of ongoing research. Some young-earth paleontologists have proposed that pre-Flood human populations were small and/or were segregated to parts of the world where conditions were not favorable toward fossilization. Another possibility is that pre-Flood humans were clever enough to escape the initial onslaught of the Flood, only to perish later. For more information, please see the following segment from our interview with Dr. Marcus Ross: th-cam.com/video/_tqX3c64AMw/w-d-xo.html
Was the song "How high's the water momma?" penned during the great flood? Was Johnny Cash aware of this?
He's correct, random process does not create complex life.
Life was brought to Earth.
so... go to the beach... Make a footprint near the waves... and then look what happens. Also, this "rapid flood" would propabilly take apart many bones, which would then not be able to fossilize... Logics is turned off in this video!
Tracks underwater can only be made with great detail if there is sand mixed with precipitate like clay, Pure sand will not leave detailed tracks!
Can you explain about Big dry Coral Reefs on land? Obviously water was much higher in the past but how is that? I'm †Christian and find it fascinating how BIG Coral Reefs are found on land.? I love this information.
Deep time glorifies God by showing how big He is and how much long suffering patience He has
@@smitty121981 Nice.
Dr. Art Chadwick, it's my pleasure to salute you for your solid-based fossil record facts and clear explanation. I salute your courageous humility, witnessing without being ashamed of Jesus Christ and his Word, The Holy Bible!
I think people hang onto their faith in evolution just because that's what they were taught and they don't want to change.
They still may provide evidence though, creationists provide methods of faith.
sorry but took me 21 years to look into & believe in evolution 2 so your theory doesn't exactly apply to me yet.
If you want to know why people defend it, just don't go about slandering it without justification. You Can make fun of it certainly but saying it's the devils work or something is just denying the evidence
@@slingslang2934: _"sorry but took me 21 years to look into & believe in evolution 2 ..."_
I got you beat. For three and a half decades I believed evolution _must_ be true. I thought surely scientists _must_ have some proof for it. And I did _not_ think it conflicted with the Word of God, because the Bible says very little on the topic.
It wasn't until I started learning about the tiny details of the cell and biology that I realized evolution *can't be defended* with evidence.
*SlingSlang:* _"just don't go about slandering it without justification."_
Slander? What was slander? And there's *plenty* of evidence (and therefore justification) that evolution can't work. Yes, speciation is observed, but it works by breaking genes. When I say "evolution", I'm talking about the mythical process that supposedly advanced a lowly single cell organism to the taxonomic families we see today.
That's quite a joke, "@@logicalatheist1065". The _"overwhelming evidence"_ shows that evolution can't work. Are you willing you discuss the actual facts?
@@KenJackson_US There's other forms of showing for evolution other than witnessing molecular machines appear or cells evolve under microscopes.
That's like saying I don't know how God appeared from thin air so I can't believe in Gods. It's a fair take but we're denying the other evidence, & we don't know that it's impossible.
I do still need to hear how mutations "break" genes too.
If you'd like to discuss something which is hopefully more observable than molecular machines & added proteins though, upon the thoasands that exist than I'd be glad to partake
@@logicalatheist1065: _"do you know what a changes in allele frequencies means?"_
An *allele* already exists, LA. You can't explain evolution by just rearranging alleles. You *MUST* step back and answer where the original gene (and hence the protein it encodes) came from. How did it come to be?
You folks who have faith that man evolved from a microbe are never willing to explain the hard stuff. You like to start with the softballs and just rearrange the existing alleles. Trivial. Irrelevant.
True World Flood. Darwin what a joke. Deciever
The preservation of biological body parts that maintain their physical properties is a piece of strong evidence for faith in the account of Genesis.
I don’t know why people come to videos to hate. Just don’t watch and have a nice life. I believe God is real and that evolution on such a large scale across species is a stretch. I really don’t think anyone has any evidence to know exactly anything about Earth before man made an account from God. Really need people just to relax and not be so heated on differences. I don’t think we will convert others to our way of thinking through trying to force others into thinking the same way.
That's good thinking. One thing is just that many of these videos try proving God or genesis by discrediting evolution.
And sorry their theories about evolution are easy to disprove so I'm all over it.
I came here to rebuke the lies in the name of Jesus Christ! These men are bearing false witness and that's a serious sin! It doesn't matter that you think evolution is a "stretch" because it's not a matter of opinion. The occurrence of evolution has been extremely well established with over 150 years of extensive study by professional scientists from all around the world, spanning many disparate fields of study. There has now been hundreds of millions of carefully catalogued fossils that all show the exact same chronological progression with 100% consistency all around the world. This has now been very strongly confirmed with rigorous modern genetic study. These men are being extremely dishonest by pretending like a single flood can better account for the physical evidence. If Noah's flood is responsible for depositing the cococino sandstone, in which these tracks were left, and the cococino sandstone layer covers hundreds of square miles with a thickness of hundreds of feet of sand.... then OBVIOUSLY no animal would be left standing to then walk on that sand once it had been deposited. It would require an unimaginably big tsunami to deposit so much sand, and even a little child could understand that this means any animal would be obliterated long before they could casually stroll across the newly deposited sand. These men are plenty smart enough to understand that. Only pride is strong enough to produce such heavy blindness and delusion.
You won't see this in a classroom
Have there ever been found fossils of a raccoon?
The existence of fossils on every continent can only be explained by a global flood (though does not necessitate the whole world being flooded at once) because fossilization is not a normal function of decay. A carcass must be very quickly cut off from oxygen in order to last long enough for fossilization, which means being rapidly covered in mud or earthen material. It also requires large quantities of moisture to be saturating those materials from above, in order for minerals to trickle down and replace the organic material as it decays. It should be pointed out that closer modern examinations of prehistoric relics have found that the majority of "fossils" are not actually fossils at all, but simply bones. Some even containing marrow, which means they can not be any older than a few centuries at most, however ALL genuine fossils are produced in this way. (Not to be confused with mummification which requires dehydration and is a polar opposite naturally occurring preservation phenomenon.)
Therefore if every continent on Earth had not at some point been under water, then there could not be fossils on every continent on Earth, which there are.
We're assuming world wide floods are neccesary for something to be burried?
What about the la brea tar pits? Messel pit, Ashfall fossil beds, Bog body's? Flashfloods, Mudslides, quicksand, or animal burrows?
And Having all life burried fast like supposed in the flood then why only a few "mummified dinosaurs". Ones that were buried fast enough to still show soft tissue like skin, hair or armor preserved in the rocks. Others that have survived the decaying process must be cut open or dipped in acid just to maybe find bone or scraps of proteins.
why do bone fossils have to be no older than a few hundred years though? Its around the last 10,000yrs that fossils will still contain bone, not just a few centuries.
The Global Flood was just that.. a single inundation event that happened only one time in history, and that flooded the entire Earth under MILES of water. Were this not the case, there would have been NO POINT to the ark. All animals, including humans would have just run to higher ground, and there is no way the Flood waters could have prevailed even for days, let alone an entire year. Additionally, much of the geological Flood evidence can only be explained by water that was several kilometers deep because of the formative pressure requirements and vast depositional areas.
Is Genesis History? I'm still waiting for some proof about the talking snake! Let's tackle that one first.
It wasn't a snake it was what you call a extraterrestrial, later it was genetically punished by god and it's body shape disfigured by god.
He's still talking to us mostly through the mouths of the disobedient, but then God had to get someone to do that dirty work.
"Did god really say????"
Is still even your question. :-)
So ...you don't believe it...nobody is forcing you to listen to these vids...go somewhere else then ...there isn't a person alive who has to tackle your questions first last or anytime.
Nobody has to prove anything to you...you do the research like the rest of us and then decide. If you decide the Bible isn't true then go with it but understand this....there are consequences if you make the wrong choice.
Mat 7 v6....but praying for you anyway.
Christian love to all...even you .
Gilly wife of Mark
Inarestin ?????????
Little churchy for me, otherwise great info! lol
Have human bones ever been found among the pile of dinosaur remains?
In response to you and diverging from the guys in the video, I'd state, no, but that's because they didn't live along them.
I consider much more was buried in situ than they think, and asking for human bones among dino ones would be like asking for them among lion ones, if the Flood were to occur in today's Africa : we don't live among lions, we rather avoid them.
@@hglundahl Thank you. Your input was an interesting answer that I will ponder.
No, humans were not around when the dinosaurs were.
@@ozowen When - or where?
If you knew of a herd of T. Rex 100 km W, would you head West?
@@hglundahl
I don't understand your post. I said humans were not around when dinosaurs were around.
I love the quote from Chuck Missler that says " if you torture the data severely enough it will confess to anything"
Evolution is expert in these dogmatic beliefs.
any examples you can provide please?
These videos use decent topics but they torture the data themselves to say all life was burried at once, or that mutations are somehow always bad. or that new genes don't appear.
it's baseless, can we find some evidence, maybe they can stop using divine fallacies & yea more data other than "this is what we expect out of a worldwide flood as if they know what to expect.
@@slingslang2934 If you would look as critically at the evolution theory you would see an even worse torture of the facts "bla bla bla....we evolved so bla bla bla.....its what we expect bla bla bla....it fits what we expected...." of course both sides sound the same, since both sides are forcing all the facts into their respective paradigm. And what doesn't fit is footnotes, falsified or forgotten. Both sides have very very smart scientists, and millions of followers. Both sides say the other is blind to the facts. One day we will find out the truth, or not, depends who is right. Just enjoy the whats out there to discover. It is neat stuff, from both sides of the coin.
@@matthewklassen806 "Both sides have very very smart scientists" No. The vast vast vast majority of professional scientists do not question the occurrence of evolution. If a young earth creationist truly is "very smart" they are also very wicked for using their intellect to deceive others. Smart people are not immune to pride, you must realize.
@smitty121981 So what flavor of evolution are you advocating for? Quantum fluctuation to man, or something less? Even the guys in this video would agree to micro evolution.
Is there an ultimate creator (God) in your world view?
@@matthewklassen806 Jesus Christ is Lord and evolution is creation over time. There are two considerations in regards to evolution. 1) Does the fossil record show the diversification and change in life forms over time from the bottom to the top of the rock strata? And is this development corroborated by modern genetic study? 2) How did this change over time occur?
The answer to number one is a resounding yes. It is undisputed outside of creationist circles. There are hundreds of millions of fossils that have been carefully catalogued at this point, noting their location within the strata, and the chronological succession over time has proven to be 100% consistent, with over 150 years of study by countless scientists all around the world. And indeed, modern genetic study has very strongly verified and clarified the inferences made based on fossil anatomy.
The answer to number 2 is up for debate. The commonly touted "random mutations plus selection" has been criticized in the scientific literature for over 40 years at this point. However, many creationists will point to problems with the theory of "how" and try to conflate this with the "if" and that is not valid logic. For example, it is common to hear that random mutations causing all of evolution is statistically impossible, therefor evolution didn't happen. But that's not what it means. It just means that random mutations don't account for the transitions that we do in fact see in the fossil record.
There are no missing links. There never were and never will be. We have one truth and that is God's word. If you want to believe in something, believe in the truth of his word.
denialism.
a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.
In the sciences, denialism is the rejection of basic facts and concepts that are undisputed, well-supported parts of the scientific consensus on a subject, in favor of radical or controversial ideas.
The motivations and causes of denialism include religion, self-interest (economic, political, or financial), and defence mechanisms meant to protect the psyche of the denialist against mentally disturbing facts and ideas.
common tactics used by denialists are
Conspiracy theories - Dismissing the data or observation by suggesting opponents are involved in "a conspiracy to suppress the truth".
Cherry picking - Selecting an anomalous critical paper supporting their idea, or using outdated, flawed, and discredited papers in order to make their opponents look as though they base their ideas on weak research. Diethelm and McKee (2009) note, "Denialists are usually not deterred by the extreme isolation of their theories, but rather see it as an indication of their intellectual courage against the dominant orthodoxy and the accompanying political correctness."
False experts - Paying an expert in the field, or another field, to lend supporting evidence or credibility. This goes hand-in-hand with the marginalization of real experts and researchers
Moving the goalposts - Dismissing evidence presented in response to a specific claim by continually demanding some other (often unfulfillable) piece of evidence.
Other logical fallacies - Usually one or more of false analogy, appeal to consequences, straw man, or red herring, misrepresenting evidence, false equivalence, half-truths, and outright fabrication
Made in wet sand and covered in ash from an eruption and later uncovered .
if its about the flood, where are all the human fossils?..
A breath of fresh air! Someone using logic and common sense to come to conclusions. You may have evolved from a rock but I was made by God for God in HIs image. Thank you very much.
The Bible says that man was formed of the dust of the ground. How, specifically, is that any different at all from science saying that we evolved from the dust of the ground? Instead of proclaiming the glory of this perfect correlation you are claiming it to be diametrically opposed. For what end?
So where are the human fossils?
they arent found until 60+ millions years later.
God always gives satan the first go so it is possible to appreciate the grace of God. Currently I pray we are living in the last stages of satan's go at runing the world and it is a mess because very few it seems hand over their lives to Jesus.
as a result, few there be that make it to heaven. "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:14
Genesis is not the beginning of all life on earth.
The Genesis era may have been the end of an older time, a Flood, and Genesis could be the beginning of this earth we know today.
I would compliment you with " a couple of old shysters" ; but that would be overrating you slightly : )
Degenerated From Lightness to Debasing Sins-We have the history of the antediluvians, and of the cities of the plain, whose course of conduct degenerated from lightness and frivolity to debasing sins that called down the wrath of God in a most dreadful destruction, in order to rid the earth of the curse of their contaminating influence. Inclination and passion bore sway over reason. Self was their god, and the knowledge of the Most High was nearly obliterated through the selfish indulgence of corrupt passions.
Your explanation for the layers having different types of creatures in them is pure bunkum, and you know it
The flood was a year long from start to finish. The water rose slowly over the whole earth so it’s perfectly reasonable to hypothesise that the marine to terrestrial burial was sequential. And you know it ;)
@@MrWholphin where are the human remains though ?
@@mikev4621 where are the giants remain also?
@@meltingeinstein3012 They'll be in the 'too hard' basket along with the other things
Peter 3:18-21). God Preached Through Methuselah, Noah, and Others-God granted them one hundred and twenty years of probation, and during that time preached to them through Methuselah, Noah, and many others of His servants. Had they listened to the testimony of these faithful witnesses, had they repented and returned to their loyalty, God would not have destroyed them
....I wish they would comment on the 66 woolly mammoths found in the pit in S. Dakota........that were all males.......
They commented about mammoths in a different video. They came after the flood
Dr. Chadwick: "It really makes it very difficult to believe in evolution when you find out how deep the complexity is inside the cell, and I think that's one of the compelling arguments that suggest evolution can't explain what we see."
Bible: Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God has showed it unto them. For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and deity; so that they are without excuse. - Romans 1:19-20
Sorry but using the unknown complexity to show divine nature Is a divine fallacy. It was common back in the day when people didn't know what else could cause earthqaukes & other natural events so they looked to gods.
It doesn't mean that it's the only option, or that God is much more complex than us. Even Another form of God would be needed to create him.
Sorry but cells adapt & evolve too, the complexity gets added on.
@@slingslang2934 Hi SS, God has revealed His power through the glory of creation, and His nature through Jesus Christ, but we can only come to believe through faith. We can't prove or disprove God through human wisdom or reasoning, and that is exactly the way God designed it. God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise - the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power and love of God.
I am praying that God will soften your heart and you will consider the truth, before it's too late. Man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgement for sin, but God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
God bless!
@@jimlaw8199 Thanks for the response.
I dont mind if you have faith in God, but having faith that something is too Complex without a god is still a divine fallacy. It's hovering on what's still unknown, & if its unkown we're just supposing what the cause is.
like people did with natural disasters & disease.
@@slingslang2934 Hi SS, I don't have faith that creation is too complex without God, rather I believe it because I see it. *_Faith_* that Jesus is Lord and that God raised Him from the dead, however, is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things *_not_* being seen, and resides in the heart not the mind; God's Spirit testifying to our spirit. But the natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, because they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
My whole life I believed that we evolved from monkeys; that the universe was created at the big bang; that men wrote the Bible to enslave and control; that people believe in God to explain what they don't understand; whatever I could use to convince myself that God isn't real. But I was wrong, and thank God for revealing the truth to me. I'm praying He will do the same for you and that you will hear His voice. My heart breaks for you, SS. This is not a debate about logical fallacies, this is your eternal soul at stake.
Jesus is standing at your door knocking, He wants to grant you forgiveness and freedom in the truth, and the truth will make you free from sin, death, and judgement.
But if you reject God's mercy, if you reject the sacrifice the Son of God made for you, then it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God. I would not want to be a man to stand before God on judgement day and tell Him it's all a divine fallacy.
God bless you, SS.
@@jimlaw8199 "I dont have faith that creation is too complex without God, Rather I believe it because I see it."
In the other message you said there's only faith to show for God, so what do you see that's too complex without them?
And again even of it's too complex for your understanding, you can't jump to conclusions & say it sounds impossible without gods.
And thanks but I tried creationism for about 15 years then realized there's tons of evidence in the evolutionary theory.
Notice though I'm not trying to convert you, just pointing out the fallacy of cells being too complex without divine intervention.
Easy peasy,they petrify.
With the theory being everything happened quickly, should not also be finding more things like tools and other man made trinkets???
I've wondered about that too. But one way that secular scientists "date" the layers is to examine what they contain. So if they see something that's clearly man-made, maybe they would declare it to be a young layer. Or maybe they would declare the dig to be contaminated and therefore unreliable.
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,,IN MY CHURCH TAUGHT US, THAT NOAH DID NOT SAVE ALL THE KINDS OF ANIMALS!,
HE SAVED ONLY THE KIND OF ANIMALS THAT GOD INSTRUCTED TO SAVE
Why do they know that in my Church, because of this;
"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth" -JOHN 16
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Theist #1- "if we're willing to ignore mountains of evidence, are we able to twist what's left to fit our outdated bronze age belief system?"
Theist #2- "let's give it a shot"
Darwinist #1: If we're willing to ignore mountains of evidence, are we able to test what's left to fit our outdated model of evolution?
Darwinist #2: We don't have to test it, we just assume it and call anything else "anti-science."
@@obsoletevalues6209 nice try to steal my joke I guess? Except mine is accurate and yours is the opposite of reality...
I guess you successfully demonstrated my points though, so thanks.
Voices of Noah and Methuselah Heard-God determined to purify the world by a flood; but in mercy and love He gave the antediluvians a probation of one hundred and twenty years. During this time, while the ark was building, the voices of Noah, Methuselah, and many others were heard in warning and entreaty, and every blow struck on the ark was a warning message
1 John 3:8). Christ in Warfare in Noah’s Day-“For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.” Christ was engaged in this warfare in Noah’s day. It was His voice that spoke to the inhabitants of the old world in messages of warning, reproof, and invitation. He gave the people a probation of one hundred and twenty years, in which they might have repented. But they chose the deceptions of Satan, and perished in the waters of the Flood
Great Art and Inventions Perished-There perished in the Flood greater inventions of art and human skill than the world knows of today. The arts destroyed were more than the boasted arts of today
How did man gain his knowledge of how to devise?-From the Lord, by studying the formation and habits of different animals. Every animal is a lesson book, and from the use they make of their bodies and the weapons provided them, men have learned to make apparatus for every kind of work. If men could only know how many arts have been lost to our world, they would not talk so fluently of the dark ages. Could they have seen how God once worked through His human subjects, they would speak with less confidence of the arts of the antediluvian world. More was lost in the Flood, in many ways, than men today know. Looking upon the world, God saw that the intellect He had given man was perverted, that the imagination of his heart was evil and that continually. God had given these men knowledge. He had given them valuable ideas, that they might carry out His plan. But the Lord saw that those whom He designed should possess wisdom, tact, and judgment, were using every quality of the mind to glorify self. By the waters of the Flood, He blotted this long-lived race from the earth, and with them perished the knowledge they had used only for evil. When the earth was repeopled, the Lord trusted His wisdom more sparingly to men, giving them only the ability they would need in carrying out His great plan
God instructed Noah how to make that immense ark, for the saving of himself and his family. He also instructed Moses how to make the tabernacle, and the embroidery, and skillful work which was to adorn the sanctuary. The women wrought, with great ingenuity the embroidery of silver and gold. Skillful men were not wanting to accomplish the work of making the ark, the tabernacle, and the vessels of solid gold.
God gave David a pattern of the temple which Solomon built. None but the most skillful men of design and art were allowed to have anything to do with the work. Every stone for the temple was prepared to exactly fill its place, before being brought to the temple. And the temple came together without the sound of an axe or hammer. There is no such building to be found in the world for beauty, richness and splendor. 1BC 1089.5
There are many inventions and improvements, and labor-saving machines now that the ancients did not have. They did not need them.
The greater the length of time the earth has lain under the curse, the more difficult has it been for man to cultivate it, and make it productive. As the soil has become more barren, and double labor has had to be expended upon it, God has raised up men with inventive faculties to construct implements to lighten labor on the land groaning under the curse. But God has not been in all man’s inventions. Satan has controlled the minds of men to a great extent, and has hurried men to new inventions which has led them to forget God.
In strength of intellect, men who now live can bear no comparison to the ancients. There have been more ancient arts lost than the present generation now possess. For skill and art those living in this degenerate age will not compare with the knowledge possessed by strong men who lived near one thousand years.
Worshiped Self-indulgence; Fostered Crime-They worshipped selfish indulgence,-eating, drinking, merry-making,-and resorted to acts of violence and crime if their desires and passions were interfered with.
In the days of Noah the overwhelming majority was opposed to the truth, and enamored with a tissue of falsehoods. The land was filled with violence. War, crime, murder, was the order of the day. Just so will it be before Christ’s second coming
Listen to these guys! They KNOW their stuff!
Utterly ridiculous.
So sad. Why is it so hard to believe God made the universe 10 billion years ago? Why belittle that? Isn’t that so much more amazing and God-like than some fairy tale about a flood? Praise the mighty God who doesn’t need humans to explain him
How are they evidence? . Not in any rational way.
It is evidence of rain/floods - like what they have been having in Europe recently.
These studies would suggest a biblical answer.
People ask, where in the Bible dinosaurs are mentioned?
Well, if you look, God created Leviathans in the beginning. Dinosaurs ie Dragons ie Leviathans all have the same root meaning.
Leviathans are Thunder Lizards.
In the Bible God is said to have destroyed most of the Leviathans due to their destruction of the world.
Makes biblical sense, more study needs to be gathered.
1 dislike... honestly why bother just move on if you worship monkeys
Why are humans not found in the fossil record?
Because the numbers of animals and insects vs humans of that time would be astronomical. There have been MANY human implements found in these strata layers for over 150 years. Go find a library with microfiche records going back 150 years and read up on what the '49'ers in California CONTINUOUSLY found during the initial mining runs!
Because there weren't very many, they are not large-boned, they don't have exosceletons and what few there were were almost surely concentrated in one place.
It's not just humans that are missing from the Flood-derived fossil record. Most mammals, birds and flowering plants are absent as well. These organisms seem to represent an ecological community that existed before the Flood, but was not preserved in the fossil record like the communities inhabited by dinosaurs or trilobites. One suggestion as to why this is so is that these organisms were living near a subduction zone (where the ocean floor plunges into the Earth's interior) that became activated during the Flood and were completely destroyed. Another possibility advocated by some creation scientists is that the streams that watered the region around Eden (Genesis 2:6,10) might have been fed by one of the "fountains of the great deep" which broke open during the Flood. If the mammals, birds and humans were living in this region, then the break-up of this spring may have resulted in their total destruction. The precise reason for the absence of this human/mammal/flowering plant community from the Flood fossil record awaits further insights from future research.
There are human fossils, but they are generally quite broken up, probably because humans were among the last creatures to succumb to the flood.
If the "fountains of the deep" exploded and water washed over the land, the first creatures to be covered would be the smaller, stationary, and less-mobile ones, because they had no means of escaping, so we would expect to see them in the lowest mud layers (now rock), and that's what we see. (Note that this mud deposition would also occur under the sea; it happens even today with earthquakes. So even marine animals got buried.) As we go up through the layers, the embedded fossils are of creatures that are increasingly mobile, meaning they could escape for longer before succumbing and being buried by the next mud layer. We move from worms and arthropods up through fish, amphibians, reptiles, dinosaurs, mammals and birds. (We also see a decrease in the numbers of phyla, classes, orders, families, genuses, and species as we go up through the layers - exactly the opposite of what evolution would produce.)
Mobility wouldn't be the only factor; there would be factors such as intelligence, and warm-bloodedness vs. cold-bloodedness in regards to tolerating the changing climate that came with the flood. Not only were people among the more mobile of creatures, they were also the smartest, and so were able to avoid destruction to the very end. By this time, most of the earth would have been under water, and so when the people died, their remains floated and broke up before sinking and being covered, so complete skeletons are rare to non-existent. And then the waters began to recede. Voila - the fossil record, formed within one year. No fossils in the precambrian layer, then a burst of fossils in the cambrian (which scientists call the "cambrian explosion" - a "sudden appearance of life," which was actually the beginning of the flood extinction). Then the creatures are increasingly *mobile* (not increasingly "complex" because there is no such thing as a simple creature) going up through the layers, and then the modern surface of the earth, which was much like the precambrian. Only in the present surface do we have erosional features, which do not exist between the layers, indicating that the layers were all formed in a short time.
I recommend Walter Veith, "Bones in Stones" and "Where Mammals Reigned," and other videos in the "Genesis Conflict" series.
Thia is so incredibly dishonest. To act like any indication of water is somehow proof that Noah's flood was responsible is beyond mistaken - it's willful dishonesty.
OMG will this guy ever give trying to prove Noah's arc was real?
there are over 6500 species of land mammals on the earth alone. that figure doesnt include all of the reptiles, birds, extinct species, etc. How could a few people quarter, feed, water and remove the waste of over 6,500 species (in pairs) on a ship for any amount of time?
A video full of Lies.
Stop over using the word paradigm.
There is no evidence for an ark, except in the Bible. Besides, it is an unbelievable story.