If they were smarter they would have spaced out each others husbands murders...4 days apart...way too suspicious. Also never talk to police without a lawyer..that first lady essentially gave them a motive at least the second lady made them work for it even though she should have had a lawyer also
Ed green and lennie briscoe was a very sweet partnership, a lot of mutual respect and kindness, and I always thought it was cool that the actors are two Broadway greats….
This was the season finale of Season 14. At the end of the episode, Briscoe is retiring, and on the way out of the office, he says "It's nice to go out on a win". His retirement was linked to Jerry Orbach succumbing to a decade-long battle with prostate cancer - he passed away in December 2004, the same year as the end of Season 14. He was a trooper and the consummate actor right until the end. RIP Jerry Orbach.
@@shadowwriter329 Yeah - its such an old plot done so often that it rivals "The Butler did it" in terms of being a cliche... actually these days I'd be more surprised if the Butler actually did it.
The prosecution doesn't take bad news well. Whenever the lab tech tells them the evidence doesn't match or too tainted for results, they always ask, "Are you sure?" or"How positive are you?" Come on D.A.'s office. You can't always expect good news from the police lab.
They ask if they're sure when they get good news too. Never wanna go to court with evidence that you think is 100% and later the tech says "Well it's still a little muddy".
Sure you can. That's why there are so many scandals with labs and prosecutors' offices. Just ask Brandon Mayfield. The system is set up to brutalize people, not bring justice or catch criminals.
@@deadlysnipe12 I've seen episodes o S.V.U. where the lab tech says the results are negative and the prosecutor will still ask "How sure are you?" The D.A.'s officer needs to learn they can't always expect good news.
@@detmstr341 First of all there’s nothing wrong with saying are you sure. It is a question and people ask it all the time. Secondly, it is a good thing that Miss Sutherland did ask that question. Because if she had taken the results at face value she might’ve never stumbled onto the second murder. And both women would’ve walked.
@@antmagor I've seen S.V.U. epsisodes where ADA Cabot was called out by a judge because she's always manipulating the court to suit her needs and the judge was fed up with it.
Yes! He worked well with Logan and Curtis. I remember how patient he was with Logan in the beginning. Logan's partner had just been shot. Briscoe was seen by Logan as a temporary substitute. But Briscoe knew he was going to be permanent. So he kept his patience till Logan went from "Hey Briscoe.." to "Hey Lennie" That was a great character arc. RIP Jerry Orbach.
For 3 million years this show has been a satisfying addiction for viewers. I discovered this show yesterday and I now need to quit my job and stay home and watch it.
3:48 the lady playing Belinda Gardner is Victoria Dillard. She played Janelle (the mayor’s secretary) on “ Spin City” and she was Jeff Goldblum’s lover in “Deep Cover”. She also played one of Eddie Murphy’s bathing servants in “Coming to America”.
As someone else noted she was Laurence Fishburne's lover. In the scene after Goldblum kills Felix, Goldblum threatens to kill her, to which Fishburne replies "If you touch her, I will kill you David."
I hated the episode when Lenny retired - he held the detective squad together. I loved him with Mike Logan and Ed Green. Also miss Adam Schiff as the DA.
That's what made this episode so bittersweet was Lennie's retirement - behind the scenes Jerry Orbach was going to star in the spinoff L&O Trial by Jury which was supposed to be less taxing to film - an important consideration since he had been battling prostate cancer. They didn't disclose his illness until a few weeks before his passing; sadly, he was only able to tape the 1st two episodes of L&O Trial by Jury before his death. At the end of the second episode of that series, you could barely hear his voice. ;( RIP, Jerry!
"...something right out of Hitchcock" doesn't even begin to describe it. This trope of criss-cross murders was used so often, it should be its own genre. Remember "Throw Momma From The Train"?? They even used it in an episode of "Murdoch Mysteries".
@@LadyBelladonnaStorm that just reminded me of, throw momma from the train. A comedic version on generally the same premise but no character was killed at all
@@billcox8870 I’m ashamed to say that I haven’t yet seen it. I’ll work to remedy that as soon as possible. Billy Crystal and Danny Davito together is just too hilarious to miss.
Elisabeth Rohm is by far the prettiest prosecutor ever on the show...she perfect physically in every way! Acting was OK not great, but her looks...perfection!!!
The way they wrote her out just seemed so out of left field. And completely contrary to what a DA's office is all about. It just seemed forced, and bad scriptwriting.
Because the streaming rights for them are on the streaming service Peacock. The idea is to get you to want to see the full episode so you'll go to where it's streaming to do so.
It was so sad, Brisco, Jerry Orbach, died the same week he retired from Law and Order, same thing happened to Peter Boyle on Everybody Loves Raymond, Raymond father, after last taping died that week. Moral, don’t quit your day job
I'd like to watch this entire episode but the only Law and Order episodes available for purchase on TH-cam are from Seasons 1 and 2 and from Season 16 and onward. Does anyone know how I can obtain any episode from Seasons 3 to 15?
Man this case really is "Strangers on a train" in a different font! Also Strangers on a train is my favourite Alfred Hitchcock movie, I highly recommend watching it.
@@mr.d.572the head DA mentions Alfred Hitchcock, he directed a movie called Strangers on a Train, two strangers meet on a long train trip, talk, share their problems, and decide to commit murder for each other. Even if somehow caught, there would be no motive for either of them. These women screwed up by becoming good friends, so the one continued to go to the other’s cafe, where she was arrested at. They remade Strangers on a Train many years later as a comedy, Throw Mama From the Train.
This murder for swap was the plot of an episode of "The Avengers", the British show with Patrick Macnee (Mr. Steed) and Diana Rigg (Emma Peale). Also the basic idea behind the comedy "Throw Momma from the Train" with Danny DeVito and Billy Crystal.
Reminds me of the Incel case in SVU. Three incels raped a girl a different one was rejected by. Since they had no connection to each other except for the MO the police were thrown for a loop at first.
Well the third incel Tony decided to target the girl that rejected him and murdered her boyfriend, rather than getting someone else to do it for him. Unlike the other two who opted to do swaps.
This could be based on Alfred Hitchcock’s film, “Strangers on a Train”. A nit job thinks she’s made a deal with a famous tennis player to commit murders for each other. The tennis player thought the other man was just thinking out loud and was joking; turns out he was a sociopath. Good movie.
@@aaronburgin1442 I still can't decide who I would want to suffer more out of the 2. Also screw that female judge admonishing Southerlyn . Southerlyn was right. Also Lennie was at his wise guy best when questioning that office lady who was sleeping with Adelle Burns husband. The other funny part was when Burns attorney said her client has many grounds for appeal and McCoy said I'm hard pressed to think of a single one .Your only hope is leniency at sentencing.
So...one more clip out of this episode until I wait for the channel to go backwards in the series, because I'm definitely not watching the Dennis Farina episodes
Not exactly ripping off; paying homage. In the original Strangers on a Train movie, only one party followed through with the murder while the other was never taking it seriously in the first place and then had to deal with being hounded by the psychopath trying to pressure him into "completing his end of the bargain". So inspired by, not ripped off.
Season 14 episode 24 C.O.D, Lennie Briscoe’s last episode on the original Law and Order before he had only two appearances on Trial By Jury because he had passed due to cancer, sad
"Slept with somebody doesn't do it justice. Your husband had sexual narcolepsy" this line took me outttt 🤣😭
That’s classic Lenny!
Sexual narcolepsy...genius
One of Lenny's last zingers. This was his last episode before Jerry left.
Same. 😂 😂 😂
Ha ha lol!😱👍👍
If they were smarter they would have spaced out each others husbands murders...4 days apart...way too suspicious. Also never talk to police without a lawyer..that first lady essentially gave them a motive at least the second lady made them work for it even though she should have had a lawyer also
Yeah like they should have given it at least a couple of months
and then she she should never have gone into her cafe again
It's only a TV show!
@@ValdezJu "ripped from the headlines"
The first words out of your mouth should be "I want a lawyer."
Ed green and lennie briscoe was a very sweet partnership, a lot of mutual respect and kindness, and I always thought it was cool that the actors are two Broadway greats….
This was the season finale of Season 14. At the end of the episode, Briscoe is retiring, and on the way out of the office, he says "It's nice to go out on a win". His retirement was linked to Jerry Orbach succumbing to a decade-long battle with prostate cancer - he passed away in December 2004, the same year as the end of Season 14. He was a trooper and the consummate actor right until the end. RIP Jerry Orbach.
Briscoe paired up with all the partners was a great partnership.Lenny Briscoe in my opinion, is one of the best TV characters ever.👍
That was an ingenious plan minus getting caught.
Such great writers on that show.
Been done before, several times.
@@shawnbrodrick8673 and before that, a book
@@shadowwriter329 Yeah - its such an old plot done so often that it rivals "The Butler did it" in terms of being a cliche... actually these days I'd be more surprised if the Butler actually did it.
it wouldve been ingenious had they not used the same model of gun
The killers should have chosen a plot from a more obscure movie... and thought about the advances in evidence collection and analysis since the 1950s.
For those who don’t know Briscoe did 8 years of Law and order with cancer
Wow
@@janinecox256 prostate cancer to be precise
He doesn't look too bad here given the fact that Jerry Orbach died later that year.
Actually it was 10 years. He discovered in 1994
In some later episodes you can see the disease taking a toll on him
The prosecution doesn't take bad news well. Whenever the lab tech tells them the evidence doesn't match or too tainted for results, they always ask, "Are you sure?" or"How positive are you?" Come on D.A.'s office. You can't always expect good news from the police lab.
They ask if they're sure when they get good news too. Never wanna go to court with evidence that you think is 100% and later the tech says "Well it's still a little muddy".
Sure you can. That's why there are so many scandals with labs and prosecutors' offices. Just ask Brandon Mayfield. The system is set up to brutalize people, not bring justice or catch criminals.
@@deadlysnipe12 I've seen episodes o S.V.U. where the lab tech says the results are negative and the prosecutor will still ask "How sure are you?" The D.A.'s officer needs to learn they can't always expect good news.
@@detmstr341 First of all there’s nothing wrong with saying are you sure. It is a question and people ask it all the time. Secondly, it is a good thing that Miss Sutherland did ask that question. Because if she had taken the results at face value she might’ve never stumbled onto the second murder. And both women would’ve walked.
@@antmagor I've seen S.V.U. epsisodes where ADA Cabot was called out by a judge because she's always manipulating the court to suit her needs and the judge was fed up with it.
I miss briscose he was one of the best.
Yes! He worked well with Logan and Curtis. I remember how patient he was with Logan in the beginning. Logan's partner had just been shot. Briscoe was seen by Logan as a temporary substitute. But Briscoe knew he was going to be permanent. So he kept his patience till Logan went from "Hey Briscoe.." to "Hey Lennie"
That was a great character arc.
RIP Jerry Orbach.
For 3 million years this show has been a satisfying addiction for viewers. I discovered this show yesterday and I now need to quit my job and stay home and watch it.
🤣😂🤣😂😂oh my...
Watch all of them and the spin-offs. You will not be disappointed.
You got passive income on standby?
Highly ADDICTIVE..IM A LAW AND ORDER JUNKIE😂😂😂😊
Every crime show ever has done a take on "Strangers on a Train" to the point where I can always see it immediately
Agreed, but it's really a perfect plot. Most of those episodes were pretty good even if you knew from a mile away.
@@reddz.k.4404 ioo
It's a classic, what would you expect
Criss-cross. The night was moist…
iirc the CSI one (Vegas, I think it was pre-spinoffs actually) the two women did get away with their crimes.
3:48 the lady playing Belinda Gardner is Victoria Dillard. She played Janelle (the mayor’s secretary) on “ Spin City” and she was Jeff Goldblum’s lover in “Deep Cover”. She also played one of Eddie Murphy’s bathing servants in “Coming to America”.
She was Larry Fishburnes lover
As someone else noted she was Laurence Fishburne's lover.
In the scene after Goldblum kills Felix, Goldblum threatens to kill her, to which
Fishburne replies "If you touch her, I will kill you David."
"ooooooohhhh you shouldn't have done that, David"@@jelanitarik7423
Lennie Briscoe, played by Jerry Orbach.
Brilliant character/actor.
RIP Mr Orbach.
And you didn't keep Baby in the corner, in the end.
Fun fact, Jerry was also the voice of the candle Lumiere in Disney's classic Beauty and the Beast. Be our guest, and rest in peace Jerry Orbach!
I hated the episode when Lenny retired - he held the detective squad together. I loved him with Mike Logan and Ed Green. Also miss Adam Schiff as the DA.
It was Jack Mckoy’s show!
That's what made this episode so bittersweet was Lennie's retirement - behind the scenes Jerry Orbach was going to star in the spinoff L&O Trial by Jury which was supposed to be less taxing to film - an important consideration since he had been battling prostate cancer. They didn't disclose his illness until a few weeks before his passing; sadly, he was only able to tape the 1st two episodes of L&O Trial by Jury before his death. At the end of the second episode of that series, you could barely hear his voice. ;( RIP, Jerry!
@@janinecox256 It was Lennie Briscoe's show and you know it. L&O's rating immediately decreased the minute he left.
Schiff is my favorite character, period
I love Green and Briscoe. Such a great team!
So the women killed each other’s husbands for money and retribution.
"Quite a bizarre coincidence."
Yeah, she was lying LOL
I never thought that Jerry Orbach would pass away several months later after his last episode. 😔
no way. he really passed away months after this episode? he didn't look sick.
He did?! I didn't know that.
@@Icecube88 He was battling cancer for almost his entire run on the show. He was diagnosed back in 1996.
he died 29Dec04. Best L@O detective
he died 29Dec04. Best L@O detective
"...something right out of Hitchcock" doesn't even begin to describe it. This trope of criss-cross murders was used so often, it should be its own genre. Remember "Throw Momma From The Train"?? They even used it in an episode of "Murdoch Mysteries".
They also did that in gta 5
Right. And a Columbo show.
Also, NCIS episode. They rode the same train & planned it.
I love the Hitchcock reference as that was the first thing that popped into my head while watching this (Strangers on a Train).
The Hitchcock movie they were referring to is called, strangers on a train, if I am correct.
You are correct.
@@LadyBelladonnaStorm that just reminded me of, throw momma from the train. A comedic version on generally the same premise but no character was killed at all
@@billcox8870 I’m ashamed to say that I haven’t yet seen it. I’ll work to remedy that as soon as possible. Billy Crystal and Danny Davito together is just too hilarious to miss.
@@LadyBelladonnaStorm well worth the watch, if only to see Devito hit Crystal with a frying pan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@cevq6126 😂😂😂
“Striations don’t lie.” Oh they absolutely can. All you need is a 1/4” diamond file and nerves of steel.
This series is sooo good ! I'm gonna have to buy some. These videos get me all worked up, then they stop .
Strangers on a Train! Always works well 👌
Stewart Granger?
Never ever talk to the police without a lawyer.
If they add a laugh track and we’d get
“Throw Mama from the Train”
The ADA’s hair is fabulous.
Elisabeth Rohm is by far the prettiest prosecutor ever on the show...she perfect physically in every way! Acting was OK not great, but her looks...perfection!!!
She plays a better villain actually. She was in a Lifetime movie called The Christmas Kiss and she played a mean character really well.
@@mr.d.572 one of my favorite movies. Loved her in that!
The way they wrote her out just seemed so out of left field. And completely contrary to what a DA's office is all about. It just seemed forced, and bad scriptwriting.
Jill Hennessy wasn't chopped liver either
Sorry but have to disagree with you…I always thought that Jill Hennessy was great, plus she’s Canadian…gotta love that
2:45 I knew something was up.
I thought they were going to say, "He had sexual narcolepsy, he just kept falling into the..."
This was Lennie Briscoe's last episode before he retired.
This episode is in my top 5 L&O episodes.
@ 5:30 the 'Movie' you're looking for is called Strangers on a Train- Directed by........ you guessed it Alfred Hitchcock!!!
Could you please do the moment where Lennie Briscoe says goodbye to the 27th Precinct?
Growing up is realizing that with the way these investigations actually go, this would have absolutely worked
Elizabeth Rohm is so beautiful.
Love those blonde hair blue eyes Scandinavian, Germanic type
Yeah mean.....rohm was soooo " FLY " !!!!🥂
Great Hitchcock inspired episode!
Ahhhh "Strangers on a Train"".... the variation now is "Strangers in a coffee shop"
Strangers in a cafe.
Strangers on a Train!
3:36
🤔 And at that moment I realized they killed each other's husband. But maybe I should wait and watch the entire video 😏
Why can’t we ever get the full version of the early episodes!?
Because the streaming rights for them are on the streaming service Peacock. The idea is to get you to want to see the full episode so you'll go to where it's streaming to do so.
Many public libraries have the seasons on DVD to borrow.
No one knows if a spouse is faithful.
The episode is based on Strangers On A Train
"Criminal Intent" did a similar episode of this...
@@Deborahtunes Really? Which one? I wanna find it and watch! 😃
@@Deborahtunes Also CSI - Vegas as well. Except like the movie one of the people didn't go through with it so they were murdered as well.
@@DarthTach ~ I never got into the CSI franchise. But thanks for letting me know...👍
@@elizabethescalante7866 ~ I'm trying to find the episode now. If I can, I'll let you know what season, and the episode title...
This is a new version of "Strangers on a train".
It was so sad, Brisco, Jerry Orbach, died the same week he retired from Law and Order, same thing happened to Peter Boyle on Everybody Loves Raymond, Raymond father, after last taping died that week. Moral, don’t quit your day job
Actually, he died six months later.
So ingenious it's been used in films and books for years.
"Strangers on a Train"
I need the ending. Lovrd this episode
Rip...lennie
Regardless she is right (more or less), an ordinary person in NYC cannot get a gun to defend themselves.
I remember this one .. just like Strangers on a Train!
i realize i watch these for the cop talk
Olivia and Jose caricoa are falling in love and best friends forever and ever
I'd like to watch this entire episode but the only Law and Order episodes available for purchase on TH-cam are from Seasons 1 and 2 and from Season 16 and onward. Does anyone know how I can obtain any episode from Seasons 3 to 15?
Man this case really is "Strangers on a train" in a different font! Also Strangers on a train is my favourite Alfred Hitchcock movie, I highly recommend watching it.
the evidence clearly vindicates that she did not kill her husband but...
5:30 Like something out of Hitchcpck.
You mean like "Strangers on a Train"?
Nice video and hi
So were both of the wives guilty?
uh yep they were.
@@matthewforsyth284
Thanks, seemed like it but I never saw this episode.
@@mr.d.572 It's a good episode and won't spoil it but it was one of those too smart for your own good situation.
God bless you.
honestly the really retarted thing was why use the same model of gun, they prob wouldnt have got caught then
@@mr.d.572the head DA mentions Alfred Hitchcock, he directed a movie called Strangers on a Train, two strangers meet on a long train trip, talk, share their problems, and decide to commit murder for each other. Even if somehow caught, there would be no motive for either of them. These women screwed up by becoming good friends, so the one continued to go to the other’s cafe, where she was arrested at. They remade Strangers on a Train many years later as a comedy, Throw Mama From the Train.
Lenny Briscoe. A cops cop.
Ever seen Throw mama from the train? Criss-cross.
Strangers on a... Cafe?
I think the name of the movie they referred to in this clip is, strangers on a train.
On The Simpsons this is known as a Criss Cross
"Strangers on a train" by Alfred Hitchcock
This murder for swap was the plot of an episode of "The Avengers", the British show with Patrick Macnee (Mr. Steed) and Diana Rigg (Emma Peale). Also the basic idea behind the comedy "Throw Momma from the Train" with Danny DeVito and Billy Crystal.
Reminds me of the Incel case in SVU. Three incels raped a girl a different one was rejected by. Since they had no connection to each other except for the MO the police were thrown for a loop at first.
Well the third incel Tony decided to target the girl that rejected him and murdered her boyfriend, rather than getting someone else to do it for him. Unlike the other two who opted to do swaps.
This could be based on Alfred Hitchcock’s film, “Strangers on a Train”. A nit job thinks she’s made a deal with a famous tennis player to commit murders for each other. The tennis player thought the other man was just thinking out loud and was joking; turns out he was a sociopath. Good movie.
Hey. The cop Green was talking to was also in SVU when Benson was framed for murder.
He pointed the gun in her face like 3 times I see why people get shot
Kind of makes you wonder how many real murderers were influenced by Hitchcock's films.
...or vice versa?
Welcome Joe
strangers on a train
Why arent the early seasons not on peacock
Episode and season?
Those obnoxious Target commercials should come with a warning so we can turn off the volume beforehand.
Yeah thats gotta burn.. McCoy lol
You got it brother. Not in the clip but oh man that was satisfying when I watched the full episode.
HAHAHAHA, She was such a cocky SOB too. "12 jurors found me not guilty." McCoy for the win LOL
@@aaronburgin1442 I still can't decide who I would want to suffer more out of the 2. Also screw that female judge admonishing Southerlyn . Southerlyn was right. Also Lennie was at his wise guy best when questioning that office lady who was sleeping with Adelle Burns husband. The other funny part was when Burns attorney said her client has many grounds for appeal and McCoy said I'm hard pressed to think of a single one .Your only hope is leniency at sentencing.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I think both or one got a way with it
The White woman was arrested. She turned on the Black Woman and was a Witness against her. Both were caught.
@@HoldenNY22 good to know none of them got away with it
thats an episode of criminal minds
@@kimanireid9617
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Omg.... Strangers on a train..
Strangers on the train plot
One of them was acquitted, why wouldn’t the other be acquitted either?
One could afford a better lawyer
Plot is old as the hills and twice as dusty.
Still better than an episode involving time travel.
@@michaelmorton5698 what does time travel have to do with a murder investigation?
@@kgrkid Time travel episodes are played out; it means that the writers have run out of ideas.
This story is STRANGERS ON A TRAIN. Good movie.
The paint easel of the sister has no paint on it, she did not paint thos abstracts on that easel prop dept.
7:22
Is that Haley Shipton from Castle?
So...one more clip out of this episode until I wait for the channel to go backwards in the series, because I'm definitely not watching the Dennis Farina episodes
Although I'd rather watch any original series clips than SVU!
If you actually watched them, you'd realize there are soooo many good episodes during that 2 season stretch. Go watch "Red Ball" or "Invaders."
@@aaronburgin1442 Red Ball was good, but that had nothing to do with Dennis Farina
Farina was great... wasn't Jerry Orbach but who is?
Farina was pretty good. He wasn’t Orbach but who is?
I hope the sister got ALL the money!
Good old lennie.
The Strangers on a Train plan wasn't even ingenious in "Strangers on a Train."
Strangers on a Train anyone?
This is why you don't get married! Haha!
So they rip off Alfred Hitchcock...
And say " it's like something out of Alfred Hitchcock..."
Not exactly ripping off; paying homage. In the original Strangers on a Train movie, only one party followed through with the murder while the other was never taking it seriously in the first place and then had to deal with being hounded by the psychopath trying to pressure him into "completing his end of the bargain". So inspired by, not ripped off.
I don't remember this episode.
This was the original's season 14 finale
Criss Cross! -Bart Simpson
Anybody knows this episode?
Season 14 episode 24 C.O.D, Lennie Briscoe’s last episode on the original Law and Order before he had only two appearances on Trial By Jury because he had passed due to cancer, sad
Isn’t this a the plot to Alfred Hitchcock’s Strangers on a Train?
Props to the blastics guy
Isn't this the plot of a Hitchcock movie?
what's a TND lawyer?? Or is that a made up term just for the show??
The black chick always creeped me out on this episode lol