Recreating the KISS & Eddie Kramer Rock and Roll Over PRODUCTION!

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  • @SuperGaryBurns
    @SuperGaryBurns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I would gladly confirm that you nailed it . Well done Mr. Johan Kramer ! Now you need a drum riser .

  • @stevesaetta1241
    @stevesaetta1241 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Huge KISS and Marshall freak myself, and been following your videos for a long time. Always a pleasure. Thank you for making such great videos and validating my otherwise useless but most important interests!

  • @klepetar
    @klepetar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    we can always count on johan to make things interesting.. .. he is the musical scientist of youtube..

  • @massapower
    @massapower 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    EDDIE KRAMER will always be the Old School Studio recording GENIUS 😁
    Let's face it, technology is great, but this was all accomplished without ridiculous over production studio productions of today
    Thank you as always JOHAN.. Amazing Production and keeping it Real🤩🤟

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Yeah Eddie is the benchmark

  • @danielforsberg4018
    @danielforsberg4018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Johan, you’re amazing! A true wizard.
    Glad that you are my friend! 🙏

  • @SirVicc
    @SirVicc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very impressive! Love your enthusiasm on the subject and it sounded just great. Amazing that we can now recreate classic tones for our own music. Cheers!

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Vic! Glad to hear it! Cheers

  • @croneyouth6146
    @croneyouth6146 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is so insanely impressive. Very nailed it! I absolutely love this❤💪🏼

  • @alanhoggard4554
    @alanhoggard4554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That Eq matching is incredible!

  • @darrellminx5459
    @darrellminx5459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always! You nailed that sound as well as I have ever heard. Thanks Johan! Cheers!!!

  • @daledoback8959
    @daledoback8959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing job Johan! Always enjoy your videos-keep up the good work!

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man, great to hear that!

  • @gyslainbeauchamp9241
    @gyslainbeauchamp9241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great job,you nailed it

  • @marksguitars5617
    @marksguitars5617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love Rock n Roll Over, I waited at the record store for delivery when it so I would have it the day it came out! You do a great job capturing those tones, thanks Johan for all you do!

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Mark! Yeah record releases were a event back in the day! Cheers!

  • @jrcrocetta
    @jrcrocetta ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome, as usual. Thank you.

  • @stevencancel1727
    @stevencancel1727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let's Go!
    Yes, I was pretty lucky to have attended the Kiss Alive concert at Cobo Arena mid 70's Detroit Michigan Rory Gallegher open the show against the grain tour glad you have the fire for Ace's tone and gear! Keep chasing that tone brother!

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! Perhaps the most interesting concert of all time in my book! Cheers brother!

    • @stevencancel1727
      @stevencancel1727 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohanSegeborn yea, it was pretty exciting, the girl I was with decided to go down to the stage and try to catch Paul Stanley's guitar when he breaks it and throws it in the audience,
      he actually through it to her and she said everyone pulled out of her hands she was so excited, later in life she became a school teacher and one of her students brought a "Kiss Doll" to school in class and they asked the teacher if they ever heard of this band, guess we didn't know at the time how many lives this band would reach, the teacher by the way acknowledged saying " Yes, I think I've heard of them" love seeing the videos of these historic shows and watching your videos, keep the dream alive my brother!

  • @monsterkxf
    @monsterkxf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like you had fun with this one! Awesome job!!
    Ace ♠️🤘🤘

  • @acerob7173
    @acerob7173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing work! thanks fo share this!

  • @truereligion7752
    @truereligion7752 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow wow wow
    What a cornerstone EQ is
    Tack Mr Segerborn

  • @Superchixxx
    @Superchixxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds killer Johan!! I’m a fan of the tones on those classic Kiss records, and you’ve successfully reproduced them!! Next time breath fire and spit blood!! Cheers

  • @mookytc
    @mookytc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice production - presentation Johan!

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man, glad to hear it!

  • @Mamo878
    @Mamo878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see the bass player _finally_ showed up!
    That guy is such a slacker.

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha! I’m gonna keep him on a short leash

  • @jimilove7773
    @jimilove7773 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @travisbartley58
    @travisbartley58 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have seen photos of Ace with an Ovation Breadwinner guitar. What's his history with this guitar?

  • @stefftrim
    @stefftrim ปีที่แล้ว

    Hejsan Johan. My initial answer got lost, seemingly and Yes, they used the old theatre, 20 mins drive from Ace's house. A "Record Plant" truck was parked outside. My only correction is Peters drums were in the Barth room, probably because of ambience. Even though Ace did retire his tobacco burst Les Paul with the shaved heal and it was used as "the smoker"; it still had the hand wound Dimarzio in the bridge.
    He haven't purchased the cherry sunburst '74 custom yet. It was done prior to touring. There is a gab in the information regarding this and we're close to the purchase of his 1959, though I don't think he had it yet.
    But a that time he had juniors and Specials. I remember a picture of Ace from "Ace in the Hole studio" with his old tobacco burst as double cut and black finish.
    I tried to play some licks with a setup of: Les Paul Special with P90, Boss GT-8 processor (with compression, cutting the mid @ 850 Hz and +3 db @ 1150 Hz; a Marshall Haze head with 6V6 tubes and a 4X12" with G12H R/C cone in the top and G12H '71 greenbacks in the bottom.
    Amazing option you get to actually "read" frequencies. I believe I can get pretty close with the Boss GT-8 guitar processor, but not as close as you, off cause (I am using my ears

  • @AnonymousBosch3158
    @AnonymousBosch3158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds great!

  • @dmac3316
    @dmac3316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool video, thanks!!

  • @michaelkearney4092
    @michaelkearney4092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hell yeah, Johan!

  • @MarioRenor
    @MarioRenor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I read on the book BLACK DIAMOND, Peter says that some tracks were recorded inside a bathroom to get a natural reverb.

  • @jkf9167
    @jkf9167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's really cool! I'm gonna see if I can find a function/plugin that does that on my DAW.
    It starts with the drums on a hard rock mix with a lot of middy guitars and bass. Those scooped sounds make room for the guitars and bass. I read an interview with Butch Vig where he was talking about how he mixed his drums before he was famous, when he was recording demos and punk rock bands and such. He said he had his own kit set up in the studio, and he scooped 7db at around 350hz and then he always had room for bass and thick guitars. This is a more subtle version of the same thing.
    The bass is also scooped slightly around the guitar mids, with some upper mids added for attack, which I've been trying to do as a bass player with varying degrees of success. Switching from guitar to bass is pretty humbling when it comes to live sound.

  • @spaceman87186
    @spaceman87186 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Johan Great watching any ace vids you do ,best around Ace also used some of his Gibson loaded pickup lesters and teles on a lot of the record as he still does. I Heared years ago in an interview or somewhere that Ace would sometimes replace his g string with a really thick one nearly as thick as his d string for better sound . I recently saw a picture of ace in tuning room with what looked like a thicker string maybe he did this for King of the night time world big bend who knows .Paul would also do this for bottom strings before we had hybrd sets.

  • @robertnixon7433
    @robertnixon7433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got a 50s standard Les Paul and through my Sheriff 22 it sounds pretty close to rock n roll over.

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds so vintage Johan 🤘🤘🤘!!

  • @rickardandersson5355
    @rickardandersson5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My fav. Studioalbum with Kiss. I thin your compair sounds super!!!

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Rickard! Glad to hear that

  • @gilmourishofficial
    @gilmourishofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! RnRO is my fav Kiss album! I also think Ace's DiMarzio Super Distortion bridge pickup played a role in how they got those fat and creamy tones. Very interesting how they EQd the guitars. Could you share the EQ setup? Which frequeincies were boosted or cut? Thanks!

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I’ll see if I can post it, remind me if I miss it

    • @gilmourishofficial
      @gilmourishofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohanSegeborn Thanks!

  • @keithclark8382
    @keithclark8382 ปีที่แล้ว

    Johan could produce any rock act!!! Amazing science

  • @ianorourke6320
    @ianorourke6320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that the super distortion pickup? That's part of the magic

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The SG currently has a BB3 in the bridge. Super Distortion is indeed the way to go

    • @ianorourke6320
      @ianorourke6320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohanSegeborn excellent job regardless

  • @siegfriedwashburn3484
    @siegfriedwashburn3484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Johan!
    I think, you made it better, than the original! Good work and very interesting! See you! Have a nice weekend!
    S.

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man! Have a nice weekend you too!

  • @MrSheymie
    @MrSheymie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EQ matched tones sound great. Very interesting principle. Do Kemper amps implement a similar approach?

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I think Kemper is baser on modeling and impulse responses

  • @thenameless3271
    @thenameless3271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the half stacks, an SG and the EB-3, you could likely do some rather convincing Cream material as well!

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first kiss album. When Dr. Love was on KC Casem top 40? It turned me onto electric.

  • @DMSProduktions
    @DMSProduktions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YOUR recording sounds BETTER! Digital is always more transparent than magnetic tape! GOOD call putting the sidewinder/mudbucker at the bridge! That is WHERE it should have been put in the 1st place!
    I thought Gene's bass tone was terrible on this album, all middy and grungy!
    I remixed those tracks, to make them sound more modern! I think I succeeded! I made Gene's bass sound more punchy by adding in more sub 100hz eq back into it!
    GOOD recreation of that era KISS!
    You WANT a challenge? TRY the KISS ALIVE! sound! Match THAT!! Kramer worked on THAT too!
    \m/

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man! Yeah Alive is indeed the Pinnacle. Cheers!

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohanSegeborn Yep!

  • @Martin-op3uo
    @Martin-op3uo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the 10ft distance bass mic is how they achieved the delay you’re hearing. Assuming they also went direct

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point, but the left and right hard panned bass channels are identical but for the delay

  • @MichaelSmith-rn1qw
    @MichaelSmith-rn1qw ปีที่แล้ว

    All your song needs is lead vocals by Johan! Nice work.

  • @t-boog2173
    @t-boog2173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Johan. Man, I've been watching u for years now and I been dying to know.... How do u have access to so much vintage equipment?
    Do u own most of it? If so, I'm guessing u have a really great day job that has supported ur vintage gear addiction?
    I hope it isn't too personal to ask but again, I been dying to know for years. Cheers my friend 🍻

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi! We actually have a great community in Sweden with collectors, studios and vendors that I borrow much of the stuff from. Cheers

    • @t-boog2173
      @t-boog2173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohanSegeborn Cool, Thanks! And yeah, that's a great community indead.
      Btw, Thank u for all the years of great videos and all the work u put into it. God Bless Johan!

  • @dominikpohli2381
    @dominikpohli2381 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the best g12m greenback riff is blitzkrieg bob from the ramones

  • @dominikpohli2381
    @dominikpohli2381 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like for Kiss the tone the g12h 75hz more than the g12m 75hz because the g12h had more cuting edge for heavy rock

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those sound great too, but Marshall actually never had the H75 in their cabs

    • @dominikpohli2381
      @dominikpohli2381 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohanSegeborn i know they had only the h 55hz but the h 55hz that lack in the top and int the upper midrange they to dark for hard rock they more for blues rock and stoner rock

  • @RockBrutus
    @RockBrutus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hur ä solo partiet mixat? Lite närmickat och mer rum?

    • @JohanSegeborn
      @JohanSegeborn  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Har faktiskt tagit bort alla rumsmickar eftersom rumsljudet krockar med andra instrument. Eddie har packat mixen perfekt. Körde snabbt delay istället. Tror Ace brukade köra snabbt Roland tape echo en del.

    • @RockBrutus
      @RockBrutus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohanSegeborn tack för svar! Coolt. Måste testa. Vet du vad de vanligaste var? Bara delar med 1 mic eller ofta med rum? Mycket låter dubbat med va? Tycker själv dub låter mest Ace men snabbt Delay skall testas. Håller på med en "Låta som Kiss" EP. Har låtar men ingen som kan sjunga 🤔

  • @MrSandRune
    @MrSandRune ปีที่แล้ว

    Överdrivigt.Its all a big lie.Far over regular music.Hard-Metal.For psycics.Had to rent 1.floor at Stockholm Bryggan as Bar-owner and played always.MUCH oriantation amongst nothing,rocknroll.Fatal-accident ahead.Nobody out there says spirits wich know everything,only dream of their consequences.All from VH,Kiss,etc are literally died,all fans,gone in the youth.Dangerous figures.