Canon RF200-800mm For Wildlife - First Impressions

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  • @jimmyscott7414
    @jimmyscott7414 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Been watching your videos for a couple of years and just had to say that I love the way you show the original raw image and then the crop and edited version. Really helps a beginner like me see what’s possible

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      G'day Jimmy, it is my pleasure and a great learning tool for sure, Cheers, Duade

  • @joanhuggett5164
    @joanhuggett5164 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    After your review, 'we would be bonkers' not to buy this lens. With this reach plus 45MP of the R5 we would be in birding heaven. That Little Eagle shot blew us away. Your processing is perfect, Duade. Really can't thank you enough for everything you do.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks Joan, yes, it works very well on the R5 and makes those subject much bigger. It is not quite as sharp as the 100-500 in that range and is heavier but lots of fun for the small birds out there. Cheers, Duade

    • @harrison00xXx
      @harrison00xXx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, its universal for birding with 200-800mm, but i would have rather preferred a 400-800 F5.6-7.1 or similar with the same weight or a 400-800 with constant F8 but like 400g less and even more focussed on sharpness and image quality.
      Anyways, it seems amazing if weight isnt a concern, as a RF 800 F11 and Sigma 150-600C user its pretty hard to decide if i should sell both for a single 200-800 or keep those lenses with their specific advantages (800 F11 weight/size and stabiliser for handheld only usage, Sigma faster aperture but big/heavy and tripod needed for smooth video)

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, a tough choice for sure, all lenses have their advantages and disadvantages that is for sure. Good luck, Cheers, Duade@@harrison00xXx

    • @steffenrosmus9177
      @steffenrosmus9177 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I got the lens now since Dec 23rd on my R 5 and the resulsts are flabbergasting. Ideal for travelling abroad, no hassle with airlines ( United, Brexit Airways ) wanting you to to buy an extra ticket or your bulky 800mm lens case. The image quality is superb and handling is easy.

  • @peterebel7899
    @peterebel7899 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What a great European winter morning:
    Great Aussie guys shooting magnificent Australian birdlife!

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am happy to hear it has made your morning, Cheers ,Duade

  • @robertburnett8686
    @robertburnett8686 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great video, Thanks..... I'd be interested to hear how the 200-800 compares with the 100-500 + 1.4tc..

    • @brianriley2488
      @brianriley2488 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My thoughts exactly.👍🙏

    • @chrisjanssen5413
      @chrisjanssen5413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brianriley2488 The problem with the 100-500 + TC is you lose 100-200 and you are at 700mm at F/10.

  • @itsnottrue99
    @itsnottrue99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the way you share the RAW photo as well as your post processed file.

  • @mikem922
    @mikem922 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Duade I have never seen you quite so animated so initial testing signs are very promising! Wonderful background blur at f9 esp with the crop factor of the R7 factored in. The sharpness and detail were clearly evident as was the flexibility and relative ease of use of the lens. Some stunning shots including the bird silhouettes. Light in NZ during winter months would be an issue I guess. Looking forward to more detailed analysis to come from you as time allows and I really wonder where this leaves the 100-500 lens.

    • @tonyfluertynaturephotograp5272
      @tonyfluertynaturephotograp5272 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You reckon the light is bad in NZ you should try Northern Ireland lol
      I've been here 3 years and the light back home in New Zealand leaves this place for dead.
      However I have been using the 100-500 with the 1.4x converter on the R5.
      DXO pure raw becomes your best mate when you have to work with high F stops.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thanks Mike, the 100-500 is in a class of its own to be honest, as a shorter zoom it cannot be beaten. It's only weakness is the reach and that is where the 200-800 shines. I will use both but the 100-500 will always be used for macro, landscape, large subjects, tame subjects etc. I will only use the 200-800 when reach is an issue. Cheers, Duade

    • @wcsdiaries
      @wcsdiaries ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do you denoise your photos in post? They look so clean and beautiful...great work! @@Duade

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      G'day a combination of Lightrooms new denoise AI and Topaz Denoise. Cheers, Duade

    • @johnbrotherton4382
      @johnbrotherton4382 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Mr Paton, I have a question. I don’t get lenses to often. They are after all expensive. Here in the United States, the rf 100-500 is only 200 dollars more then the rf 200-800. If I bought only 1 lens, what do you think would be my best bet.

  • @henrysteadman963
    @henrysteadman963 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You are such a generous TH-camr Duade, and your enthusiam is infectious 👍

    • @Duade
      @Duade  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the feedback, I apprecaite it, Cheers, Duade

  • @bjrn-einarnilsen687
    @bjrn-einarnilsen687 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Finally one of the videos i was waiting for. You and Jan are the main channels i look at to get input about new equipment. So far it looks very good this lens, so i believe that this will be my next lens. Looking very much forward to your full review on this.
    Wishing you a great week mate, with a lot of wonderful photos.
    Cheers, Bjoern

    • @Geophoto63
      @Geophoto63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% agree. I was waiting for them to do their review

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks mate, good so far, the only other weakness I didnt mention as we have only really discovered the lack of coatings on the lens can lead to some fringing and blown whites in bright perches or lighting. I will be sure to show this in the review. Cheers, Duade

    • @bjrn-einarnilsen687
      @bjrn-einarnilsen687 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Duade As long as you are aware of it, i guess it's possible to "work around it"
      Thanks for the info, and have a great week.
      Cheers, Bjoern

  • @bobcat65a
    @bobcat65a ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Duade, Thanks for presenting your excellent review video of the Canon RF200-800mm. A bunch of your USA followers have been awaiting your real life wildlife and evaluation of the 200-800mm. Eagerly awaiting the video from Jan Wegener. Best to you and yours.🦜

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, first impression is good but some interesting things we noticed that will be discussed in the full review. Cheers, Duade

  • @shaner3454
    @shaner3454 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Very interested how this lens compares to the 100-500, both with and without a 1.4x teleconverter. Are there any compelling reasons for those who already own this combination to consider switching?

    • @davegoldberg1874
      @davegoldberg1874 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      FWIW, I decided to go with the 100-500 because its lower weight makes it far easier to handhold, plus the 3 foot minimum focus distance makes it possible to shoot insects and other smaller subjects without changing lenses.
      Plus, the lower 100mm focal length is useful if I want to snap off a few portraits or landscapes.
      That may or may not be important to you, but those were the key differences that pointed me to the more expensive lens.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      A very good question that I will try to answer in the review, I think owners of the 100-500 have the hardest choice to make. If I personally had to choose one lens it would be the 100-500 as it is just such a good lens for its focal length. Now if you have the funds available I will use both lenses, the 100-500 without TC is perfect for macro, landscape, big mammals, tame birds etc. But when I need reach I will go with the 200-800, I think that is more versatile than 420-700 f/10. Cheers, Duade

    • @RussellStewart
      @RussellStewart ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Duade Thanks Duade, I have the 100-500 with 1.4x and I am leaning towards adding the 200-800. I pretty much shoot my existing combo at max FL all the time with an R7, so there are advantages with the 200-800 I think. I bought the R7 to fill time while I await the R1, so it looks like 2024 is going to be expensive for me. Ah well. it's only money.

    • @steffenrosmus9177
      @steffenrosmus9177 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tested bothmon a R 5 and image qualility is quite identical with 200- 800 showing a more soft and even Bokeh than the 100 - 500 with 1,4 converter .

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Russell, I think they are two different lenses for sure, I will use the 100-500 for that focal range as its very sharp and excellent for that. For reach I think the 200-800 has that advantage and you should be able to get wonderful shots. Yes, the R5II is also coming so an expensive year. Cheers, Duade@@RussellStewart

  • @stephencooper5155
    @stephencooper5155 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'd be really interested to see a comparison between the R5 with the 200-800 and the R7 with the 100-500 because it's the same reach. F9 is very very dark for European dusks/dawns especially in winter.

    • @michaeljohannsen4872
      @michaeljohannsen4872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +1

    • @barryedwards5350
      @barryedwards5350 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have the same question.

    • @maxidrivemaxidrive4330
      @maxidrivemaxidrive4330 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not the same reach if we use it with he R7.

    • @brentj7564
      @brentj7564 ปีที่แล้ว

      very interested in this comparison as well.

    • @adamrubinstein1479
      @adamrubinstein1479 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s one of the reasons, I would never purchase this lens. There are many days here where shooting at even f/5.6 yields unacceptable TV for BIF.

  • @martinhommel9967
    @martinhommel9967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your thoughts. Lots to ponder.

  • @nahpungnome
    @nahpungnome ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I expected nothing less from this video. Always a pleasure watching your videos, Duade!

  • @lowertheshield
    @lowertheshield ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Great review. For us photographers who already have RF 100-500mm, a shot for shot comparison of that lens with 1.4 teleconverter to the RF 200-800 would be really helpful. Looks like the this lens is significantly heavier than the RF 100-500.

    • @alanm.4298
      @alanm.4298 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lens for lens, the RF 200-800 is heavier at 4.5 lb., compared to the RF 100-500's 3 lb. However, if you add a 1.4x to the 100-500 to have the same "reach", the difference will be a little more than 1 lb. (plus the 100-500 & 1.4x combo will be slightly dimmer at 800mm: f/10 rather than f/9).

    • @marktaylor9579
      @marktaylor9579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alanm.4298 But - the RF 100-500 with the 1.4x only goes to 700mm @ f/10, presumably a typo?

    • @alanm.4298
      @alanm.4298 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@marktaylor9579 You're correct. My mistake. The 100-500 becomes a 140-700 with the 1.4x added, and goes from f/7.1 @ 500mm to f/10 @ 700mm.

    • @marktaylor9579
      @marktaylor9579 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alanm.4298 You're welcome 🙂. The extender does also extend the minimum focal length to 420 as it can't be attached unless the base lens is extended to 300mm first. So it's either 100-500 or 420-700 @f/10 with extender. Personally I find the 420 -700 range a bit of a bind as when larger birds approach I can't zoom back to (say) 300mm.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks, I will be sure to compare with that setup, yes, much heavier for sure. Cheers, Duade

  • @kevindiossi
    @kevindiossi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So pumped!!! Using mine for the first time today. Lovely images!!

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats, let me know how you get on. Cheers, Duade

  • @Hummingbirder1
    @Hummingbirder1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a vitamin injection of Happy Duade, much appreciated for me that just now have a wonky wisdom tooth that choose this time of year to act out. It needs to be drawn, well before the Aussie trip, that's for sure!😬 Not looking forward to that, at all, but after the deed is done: big relief.
    I'm looking forward for more videos on the 200-800 testing and comparings, both from you and Jan! I bet you're gonna test it together with the f11 as well. I'm *almost* sure I'm going to buy it, but the shipping seems to be slow and uncertain. Canon clearly didn't think it would be a "best seller", so too few has been manufactured. We'll see if it's available before end of August-24...
    It won't replace my beloved 100-500, of that I'm totally sure, but maybe(probably?) the 800/11. I don't know! That one is so much lighter and have no big foot to annoy me forever and ever! And it's sharp, as well, only thing is the f11 but that's the way it's built. Wouldn't be as light and cheap if it was faster. The min focus range is a bummer as well, but I guess the same reasons applies.
    The new zoom has very good min focus distances, which is a large bonus, even at 800 mm.
    As you see: I'm waffling, very undecided. I can afford to be, no cow on the ice, it's still unavaialble here in Sweden. I might get it before the Aussie trip, or I might not. I'd prefer to get it before the trip, but won't die without it.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      G'day Pia, sorry to hear about your tooth, I had all of mine removed as a teenager as they were growing sideways, very painful indeed. Yes, it is tough for existing 100-500 owners. That lens is just sublime at that range and I will always reach for that lens for up close work, or tame subjects etc. But if reach is an issue the 200-800 is great, but it is big and heavy compared to the f11 prime. But you do get full AF coverage, 200-800 range, slightly faster at f9 and of course the 3.3m mfd. Jans review is not far away. Cheers, Duade

  • @Gaztography
    @Gaztography ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Morning Duade, very interesting video , and some fantastic images you got, such wonderful diversity in wildlife. The lens looks great I must admit, I’m just worried that F9 is pushing that ISO up, we get a lot of bad light days here in the UK. However what other options is there for Canon shooters! Again Canon are pushing that compromise on us.
    Good to see you back with that sparkle Duade. Looking forward to hearing more about this lens.
    Gary

    • @stephencooper5155
      @stephencooper5155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 100-500 on an R7 would be a bit more light with the same reach. There's even a used EF 500 F4.5 on MPB that would give the same reach and a tonne more light on an R7 with EF-RF adapter. We have to get creative in the UK with our light situation! ha!

    • @Gaztography
      @Gaztography ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stephencooper5155 yeah unfortunately 😃 looking at the weather it’s poor for a while now. I use a 600 F11 and find you just end up pushing the ISO way too high for the stutter speeds you ideally want for BIF. Great when it’s nice and sunny. F9 is better but the 6.3 on the Sigma is better again, albeit you lose 200mm. It’s good to see Canon trying new things and modern cameras are much better with ISO. I’m going to watch a few more videos from this direction to see what the verdict is.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate, yes, always a comprimise, I think for us in the lucky country with plenty of light it is not so much an issue, but in low light it will always push that ISO up. So it is a big trade off isnt it. Crop in on 600 6.3 or go up a stop of ISO at 800 f9, actually I will try that in the review, thanks for the idea. Cheers, Duade

  • @Arthur_My_Dear
    @Arthur_My_Dear ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jan and Duade - the A Team. 2 of my 3 subbed photography channels. So grateful for your efforts. Merry Christmas Du(a)de 😊

    • @nordic5490
      @nordic5490 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is your 3rd ?

    • @Arthur_My_Dear
      @Arthur_My_Dear ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nordic5490 You might be surprised - The Photographic Eye. I check in on Steve Perry and Wild Alaska from time to time.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy holidays!

  • @adobongadobe
    @adobongadobe ปีที่แล้ว

    That yellow Robin really popped! I was looking forward to your video and now it's here!

  • @robinthebobin6537
    @robinthebobin6537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not sure why I'm watching this, as I'm not in the market for an 800mm lense, neither do I own a Canon😂. But I absolutely loved this video, your passion for wildlife photography is clear!
    Best wishes from Leicestershire, UK

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @davidcannon2464
    @davidcannon2464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks mate, I appreciate it, Cheers, DUade

  • @liamminerYT
    @liamminerYT ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are so relaxing - I really appreciate your perspective and presence, just you enjoying the nature and trying to get good photos.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much!

  • @gregorytortissier5518
    @gregorytortissier5518 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As usual, nice video, beautiful background with Australian nature beauty and the shots you got are very pleasing, always happy to watch your videos, motivating and refreshing :) cheers

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Gregory, glad you enjoyed it, Cheers, Duade

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it, Cheers, Duade

  • @TomazNMelo-tf9sc
    @TomazNMelo-tf9sc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing Duade. I'll be waiting for the final review, but seems to be an amazing lens to use. I love the kangaroo photos!

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, good so far, a few interesting things that I will mention in the review, it appears the lack of coatings maybe leading to less dynamic range and some ghosting on whites in bright parts which I will discuss in more detail. Cheers, Duade

    • @TomazNMelo-tf9sc
      @TomazNMelo-tf9sc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Duade nice to know. I hope to see it's how it perform in the R7 in low light

  • @KalliatTValsaraj
    @KalliatTValsaraj ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for this excellent review. I just got the lens and hope to use it soon.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have fun with it, let me know how you go. Cheers, Duade

  • @isotechimages.9130
    @isotechimages.9130 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I managed to pick up the lens the day it arrived so been using for a few weeks now. I also have zero regrets & find it glued to my R7. We all want a faster lens but none of us want the weight penalty that would come with it. l would rather dip out on a stop of light to have an extra 200mm so would take this over another 200/600 f5/6.3. I do still feel at least on R7 that the autofocus is not as fast or accurate as the 800mm prime F11 probably due to less glass to move around. Anyway l will happily replace my 800 f11 & Tamron 150/600 with this lens. These slower lenses from Canon are very useable you just have to learn the limitations & go with it.😊

    • @brycestroup5294
      @brycestroup5294 ปีที่แล้ว

      Currently running a Tamron G2, is the autofocus improved? My g2 seems to hunt quite a lot. On the fence about upgrading right now not sure if I can justify the cost.

  • @robert_may
    @robert_may ปีที่แล้ว +28

    600mm at f/8 isn't too bad considering that any of the f/6.3 600 zooms will be f/9 if you chuck a 1.4x TC on them to reach 800mm anyway. For those that know they need 800mm for their use, this lens is actually consistent with those other options and doesn't require swapping a TC on and off to get it. For me the f/6.3 zooms are already on the limit for the light levels here but for people in less dreary areas it looks like a good option 😄

    • @ILasaroff
      @ILasaroff ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Well I keep my Sigma at 600 f8 anyway, because it is soft at 6.3. If this Canon 200-800 solves the dreaded focus pulsing/hunting issues, gives a bit extra reach and is 30-40% less expensive than rf 100-500mm, it is a no brainer for me :)

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great comment and totally agree, if you need reach or use a TC on your 600 zoom then this lens fits that niche well. If light is an issue then this might not be the best choice. Cheers, Duade

  • @anildangol
    @anildangol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think there is any other reviewer who does the review like you Duade higligting all the pros and cons and if they are important. Thank you for that.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure, working on the review now, Cheers, Duade

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure, Cheers, Duade

  • @djack4125
    @djack4125 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anxious to see a detailed comparison of the AF performance of the 200-800 vs the 100-500 with a 1.4x. Congrats on your new lens!

  • @woodygreen6826
    @woodygreen6826 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spoonbill shot was outstanding, Duade!

  • @paulkavsak1941
    @paulkavsak1941 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Prior to ordering this lens I practised with my 100-400L USM @f9 on My R5. No problems in typical daylight conditions. Now by November I hope to have one of my own!
    Thanks for your excellent videos and reviews Duade!

  • @DrPankajMalukar
    @DrPankajMalukar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love to hear from you. Perfectly described. Thanks a lot

  • @PhilThach
    @PhilThach ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great work as always Duade. I've been really enjoying mine. You make a great point about the missing manual focus ring. I haven't run into a situation in several outings where I've needed to bump the manual focus ring to help the camera out but I'm sure I will. I was surprised when I tried it with the 1.4x extender. It's a rockstar at f/13! LOL

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great to know Phil, yes, a nice lens for sure, I have not tried the 1.4 yet, but will soon. Cheers, Duade

  • @ladyethyme
    @ladyethyme ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay! I've been looking forward to this review🖤🖤

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, working on the full review now, but the first impressions was fun. Cheers, Duade

  • @Harry-bh5dg
    @Harry-bh5dg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    G,Day, great vid, love the pics you've taken with the lens, shows how far I still need to progress, for me living in the uk and not as a rule not having such good light makes the f9 a bit disappointing, however I'll get my birding skills to a much higher level before I make my final decision as it maybe a tripod etc maybe the answer to have the extra reach, I look forward to seeing what you think when you have had it for a while.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks mate, yes, lots more testing to do. Cheers, Duade

  • @msyuan1124
    @msyuan1124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video, Duade. You can talk specs all day, but the evident joy in your voice is all you really need to know. What more could you ask for than having this lens bring you so much fun? For my preferred style of photos, though, I’m not convinced this lens is for me, as I tend to shoot very early or very late in the day, so my go-to lens is still the 400 f2.8. Happy holidays, Duade.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate, yes, not a replacement for the fast primes in terms of IQ, it is just a fun alternative lens that will make plenty of people happy. I am just glad we now have lots of options on RF for wildlife. Cheers, Duade

  • @Robinshahidullah
    @Robinshahidullah ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤❤ the places are beautiful...and seeing you two together is another thing that I love, obviously I will see Jan's comparisons and thank you for this video...wish to meet with you two someday and have a session together...❤

  • @Madbirdlady
    @Madbirdlady ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t wait for mine, it’s on order. Thanks for calming my slight reservations

  • @nortondefaria
    @nortondefaria ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The review is honest and the photos are good example of what the lens can do. Versatility is what you are buying...200 to 800mm, easy of use and etc. I will stick to my 100 to 500 and my 1.4 converter for now.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Your combo is excellent and the 100-500 is one of the best zooms on the market. Cheers, Duade

  • @rodgerb2416
    @rodgerb2416 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Duade! I got my 200-800 last Friday and used it over the weekend on my R5. I'm really impressed with it!

  • @terrysmith810
    @terrysmith810 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks Duade. This is what I have been waiting for.

  • @foto-dk
    @foto-dk ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent preview! It is really nice that you show the RAW files. I am looking forward to this Lens.
    Merry Christmas, Duade!
    Jan from Denmark.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy holidays!

  • @waynedettman6472
    @waynedettman6472 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a go of a r5 with 200-800 this morning at Sydney royal national Park 800 is amazing in good light f9 not a problem,better than my 100-400 with 2x extender.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great to hear Wayne, yes, the 200-800 should work a bit better than the 100-400 and extender. Luckily we get nice light here a lot :-) Cheers, Duade

  • @Harry-tm2bt
    @Harry-tm2bt ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Duade for showing the bad bits as well as the good, before dropping two grand. Getting mine in a few weeks after watching your video. Merry Christmas.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you enjoy it!

  • @Guitarmfig
    @Guitarmfig 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your channel, thank you for the awesome content, I have to say that going from traditional DSLR to Mirrorless and using the RF lenses, worrying about sharpness has become a thing of the past

  • @SamW604
    @SamW604 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent initial impressions review. In your final review, I'd like to know how the sharpness and focus speed of the RF 200-800 compares to the RF 100-500 bare lens and the RF 100-500 with the 1.4 teleconverter, at the same, shared focal lengths. Thank you.

  • @Aleriom
    @Aleriom ปีที่แล้ว

    Like you enjoyment is key for me. Stunning shots. Even on a cold grey winter’s day in the UK the extra reach would have helped with the local Red Kites and even the elusive Goldcrest. Thanks again for your passion.

  • @potayto-potahto881
    @potayto-potahto881 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven't even seen the video yet and dropping a like and comment. Been waiting for this since the lens was announced. Can't wait!!!!

  • @MarzioMoretti-x3w
    @MarzioMoretti-x3w ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Duade
    I was waiting for your review.
    Thanks again from the bottom of my heart.
    HI
    Marzio

  • @tdunster2011
    @tdunster2011 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great value lens. The fact it can focus on a subject at 3.3metres away when using an 800mm focal length is very impressive at this price point.

  • @RB-rf8rf
    @RB-rf8rf ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Seems like a no brainer for FF shooters. For crop I reckon the 100-500 is still the better option, especially when you take the weight factor into account for longer wildlife treks.

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No... R7/R50/R10 with this 200-800 will be 1200mm+ at f9 which is v.useful

    • @cyrilgpilot
      @cyrilgpilot ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@zegzbrutalyou'll still need a sunny day or high iso. Whatever, I wish I can have both lenses 😂

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I think it makes the R6II a lot more attractive for wildlife as it is such a good camera but the 100-500 was just a touch short. Cheers, Duade

    • @pierrevilley6675
      @pierrevilley6675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100-500 F/4.5-7.1 + 1.6 crop factor = 160-800mm F/7.2-11,3. So you will lose 2/3 stops of noise capability and DoF on the long end against a FF + 200-800 combo.

  • @evolvefromnow6735
    @evolvefromnow6735 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks D as always a good honest review. I’d love to know how it compares with the 100-500 and 1.4x Tele. Both r5 and r7.

    • @Washingtonium
      @Washingtonium ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be very interesting.

  • @AndyM...
    @AndyM... 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Given the relatively cheap price (in the grand scheme of things) looks pretty good value given some of the annoyances. Nice review Duade !!!!

  • @davidstowephotography
    @davidstowephotography ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the vid mate. So great to see you so excited! Really appreciate your thoughts 👍🙏

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate!

  • @marcushellyer6502
    @marcushellyer6502 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I got mine already. Very happy with the image quality (on R6 and R7). I don't really notice much of a size/weight difference from the RF100-500, particular when it has an extender. It's really fun to go from 200 to 800. Yes, the tripod mount is a pain. Did very well on wetland birds. Am looking forward to trying it out on some shorebirds over Christmas holidays. I suspect there are going to be a lot of RF800 f/11 lens on the second hand market now (including mine)....

    • @jayengee
      @jayengee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The ones who can't afford the RF200-800MM will be itching to get their hands on the RF800 f11 we trade in I guess. I've been really pleased with mine bar the lack of weather sealing. I can't wait to get mine and head up to the Farne Islands hopefully before we sell our house and move too far away to get there easily.

  • @ww3688
    @ww3688 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great primer Duade... you have me riding with you on this wave of excitement! I am definitely inching closer to wanting one of these to pair up with my R5 vs using my R7 + 100-500. Sharpness and details at 800 look impressive... i wholly agree, getting more reach is addictive! Will your next review get me committed? Will i want the 200-800 over my 100-500+1.4x? I can't wait for your follow-up segment to find out! Awesome and quality presentation... You and Jan have us on the edge of our seats! Thank you mate!!

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Winston, Jans review is incoming and he talks about a few things we discovered after my first impressions which are worth thinking about. My review will take a bit longer as I need to compare it with lots of lenses etc. But so far I am enjoying it. The RF100-500 is by far the most amazing lens in that range and I will continue to use it. But it is annoying to use the 1.4 on that lens so I suspect I will use them both. The 200-800 for when I need reach and the 100-500 for macro, landscape, up close, tame subjects etc. Cheers, Duade

    • @ww3688
      @ww3688 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Duade! Take your time! Give us time to soak up Jan's review before moving on to yours! A lot of us are delighted to see you and Jan tag team and providing different perspectives!

  • @seltunkoko
    @seltunkoko ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You made an excellent choice with that lens! Its quality is truly impressive and I'm confident you'll keep loving it for a long time. Enjoy capturing those stunning shots!

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks mate, yes, lots of fun so far, Cheers, Duade

  • @ambrosechiu2338
    @ambrosechiu2338 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great shot on the Little Eagle. with good day light, f/9 is not a problem. I use my Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary lens with TC1.4, it comes f/9 and 850mm. I don't have issue to shoot 20fps with Nikon Z8, it might be the stack sensor can keep the 20fps without any delay. for low light, i won't use the TC1.4 or for really cloudy day. I will use Z70-200mm with 2 x TC to get 400mm at f/5.6.

  • @cystopus
    @cystopus ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Duade. A wealth of information that helps to decide on some photo gears to add for the wildlife adventure.

  • @paulj1828
    @paulj1828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Focal length has a lot more to do with great backgrounds than aperture .... Great video .... 👍

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Paul, it will be interesting to do some tests to see the difference between 600 6.3 and 800 f9, Cheers, Duade

  • @Syllage
    @Syllage ปีที่แล้ว

    Merci beaucoup Duade. Vos vidéos sont toujours aussi agréables et remplies d’informations utiles 😊.

  • @truthseeker6804
    @truthseeker6804 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    try zooming by pulling and pushing the barrel instead of the zoom ring. thats what i do and i can zoom faster. thats what many used to do on the ef 100-400 mk 1

  • @blairblankinship4521
    @blairblankinship4521 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great review and thanks again for showing the raw images and then the processed images.

  • @jeffolson4731
    @jeffolson4731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got mine on the 14th. So far I like it. Since it is winter here in the Puget Sound Area of Washington State, USA, I have been able to shoot in low light. In fact, this time of the year with only 8 hours of daylight, it is my only option. 😂 This has allowed me to see what my limitations are. I have been testing how low of a shutter speed I can hand hold, 1/60 at 800mm on my R5 still looks good. The R5 handles ISO fine and I have shot at ISO 5000 without a problem. I haven't tried it with my R7 yet.
    You are correct, the collar doesn't come off. In reviewing the pre-production, one reviewer thought that was a good thing since it wouldn't accidentally come off and cause you to drop the lens. I thought that was a bit of a stretch but since I don't ever take the collar off on my lenses that I can, it doesn't bother me.
    Unless you are willing to spend a lot more money you aren't going to get 800mm of reach with a faster aperture.

  • @ghalibsworld
    @ghalibsworld ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The collar must be removable. Canon still can do it. BTW, where is Canon in the case of APSC lenses? No news we are hearing about APS-C lens? Why Canon?

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I am sure it is, I just don't know how to do it quickly and easily, there does appear to be some sort of screw on top so no doubt that is how. I will wait to see someone else do it first to see how hard it is. No idea re APSC lenses. Cheers, Duade

  • @FlannelFlyer
    @FlannelFlyer ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my dream lens for plane spotting and I can't wait for the comparison video! Thank You!

  • @stevetubvang3034
    @stevetubvang3034 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most important of doing anything is that you have fun doing it.

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been waiting for this video review!! Excellent Duade!

    • @Twobarpsi
      @Twobarpsi ปีที่แล้ว

      I found Jan's channel because of you! I love both channels!!

    • @Twobarpsi
      @Twobarpsi ปีที่แล้ว

      I paid more for my 70-200 2.8 L III EF lens, than this 200-800 RF!!

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, first impressions are good, working on review now. Cheers, Duade

  • @thomashusser9391
    @thomashusser9391 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was excited to see your review on this lens. I use the R5 with the RF100-500. That combo is SO awesome. I have no intention of moving away from the RF 100-500, but there are situations for me that the extra reach of this new lens could get a shot that the RF 100-500 can't. Your videos are always very informative and well done. You bring out the good and the bad. And you back your comments with pics. Again, well done! Your video has given me the confidence to move forward with purchasing this lens.

  • @roxanaandreozzi5588
    @roxanaandreozzi5588 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the way you explain. Very easy to understand 👏👏👏

  • @kcopen
    @kcopen ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great video, also want to agree that showing the RAW and the crop is really great. Was already following Jan but added your channel too. Very intrigued by this lens!

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, thank you!

  • @PhotoGearFun
    @PhotoGearFun ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much for the video! I have mine on order but it may be a bit before I get it. Seems like a great lens for birding. As usual you made some amazing images. Cheers.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate, sorry about the delay, I look forward to doing the review, lots to cover. Cheers, Duade

    • @PhotoGearFun
      @PhotoGearFun ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Duade I look forward to it!

  • @にゃん吉-t4m
    @にゃん吉-t4m 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your detailed review. I have been birding with R5 or R3 and EF600F4 in Japan. I wanted to use a lighter telephoto lens, so I bought a Z8 + Z800mmF6.3 in January this year. However, I am frustrated with the AF of the Z8. If I had seen your review earlier, I would have bought the RF200-800mm.

  • @AtaBoraBasar
    @AtaBoraBasar ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I believe it will be a lens that many Canon users will want to own, whether professional or amateur. Thank you Duade.

  • @real1997
    @real1997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mate I think you’ve convinced me to buy this lens after a lot of research. Cheers and Merry Christmas from Coffs Hbr.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy holidays!

  • @marximus4
    @marximus4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great first impressions! I can't wait to get my hands on this lens.

  • @epsonc882009
    @epsonc882009 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for Duade. Your review is fantastic as always, right to the point, a lot of people would be appreciated.

  • @chantaljacques7664
    @chantaljacques7664 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Duade! Useful review! I would be tempted enough to give it a test drive!

  • @SuperMacGyver1
    @SuperMacGyver1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The yellow Robin looks amazing almost unreal shard and colored. Great job. You are blessed having such colorful, interesting many different birds over there. In Germany we don‘t have that many and not even close colorful and different birds. 😒

  • @daviddouglasuk
    @daviddouglasuk ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Duade, from what I have seen so far in other videos 100-500 + x1.4 is sharper than 200-800 is that what you find? I currently shoot R7 with 100-400is ii. I am thinking about upgrading to an RF lens. I like the flexibility and ease of transportability of the 100-500 + x1.4 what would you choose with the R7?

    • @keeskraaijeveld4704
      @keeskraaijeveld4704 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm also curious. I have the R7 with RF 100-500 + x1.4. Is this 200-800 complementary or just "overdone"?

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The RF100-500 is a sharper better lens without doubt being an L series lens. The only downside is its a bit annoying with a 1.4 as you cannot retract the lens meaning you have to take it off every time before putting in your bag, you can't just leave it attached. But as an all around lens the 100-500 is more versatile. I personally will use both but if I had to choose just one I would go with the 100-500. But in Australia at least it is $2000 more expensive with the converter so cost is always a consideration. It really comes down to your circumstances and if you think reach is more important I guess. Cheers, Duade

  • @love4wildlife
    @love4wildlife ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here in the Pacific Northwest (western Canada), this would be a challenging lens to use for stills for quite a few months of the year. Now for video on the other hand.....could be interesting. That focal length is quite attractive.

  • @utubify100
    @utubify100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done, Duade! Thank you again for the quality content. Congrats on the new lens & glad it looks like a keeper. Definitely, several high quality shots you shared with excellent technique, as usual.
    I pulled the trigger on one, but still backordered after 6+ wks. Should be interesting on the R7 for those long reach scenarios. Looking forward to putting it through it's paces. I often shoot my EF 100-400mm ii @ F9 with the ext., so don't think this lens @ F9 should be an issue most of the time.
    Hope you are well, enjoying summer there & had great holidays. All the best on future outings & have a nice time breaking in the new gear. Best regards ~ Chris

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Chris, you will absolutely love this lens I am sure, if you are used to shooting at f9 you know exactly the settings you will be using. Having 800mm without TC is a huge benefit and having that extra reach comes in very helpful. Have fun, Cheers, Duade

  • @tomastrnkaYT
    @tomastrnkaYT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You look so happy in this video Duade! I assumed its because of this lens, so I bought it and it will arrive on Friday :D 800mm is simply a must have. Thank you for the video, it helped me little bit to decide - I know its not yet full review... Im curious if this lens will be good for video, I think it will be much better then Sigma 150-600, but will see. Take care! Tomas

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Tomas, yes, a lot of fun, it has its weaknesses but for its price I think the reach is fantastic. Cheers, Duade

  • @JARofEMUS
    @JARofEMUS ปีที่แล้ว

    Best review of this lens yet. Definitely on the wish list.

  • @esphilee
    @esphilee ปีที่แล้ว

    Your photos are absolutely stunning.

  • @bendews
    @bendews ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A little late to this video even though I have been really looking forward to see you with this lens! Loved your review Duade, your excitement is contagious! Some amazing shots you have taken, they absolutely blew me away. This may be the push I needed to get off the M system and in to RF, those results speak for themselves.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks mate, yes, for its price it has lots of things to like, it is not perfect and has weaknesses but I can see it being a very popular lens for birding, Cheers, Duade

  • @Harry-bh5dg
    @Harry-bh5dg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Duade, can I ask you a question as you test the200 - 800, is this lens better than the canon 100 - 500 with a teleconverter, just thinking about price the f stop and quality, weight etc etc ?

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      G'day Harry, great question and I will be sure to try and answer that in the review. Ultimately they are two different lenses, if you think you need reach, don't mind the weight and size the 200-800 is likely a better choice as you can then use a 1.4 on it giving you 280-1120mm. If you do more up close work with larger mammals etc, landscapes, macro style stuff then the 100-500 is the better lens. Cheers, Duade

  • @antonoat
    @antonoat ปีที่แล้ว

    Many fabulous images Duade, can sense your enthusiasm for this new piece of glass!

  • @vas.milivoj
    @vas.milivoj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just gpt the lens last week. It is amazing, enjoying it. I was in between with rf 100 500 but i do not regret, will not look back for sure. Yours videos helped. As you said, Modern cameras handles high iso pretty good, it is a bit heavier, but it will push me to do body exercises, bokeh is more than good... it is lovely lens. Thank you for reviews :)

    • @Duade
      @Duade  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great to hear!

  • @rinksyd
    @rinksyd ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for the review. Great info. I am still waiting on mine to arrive and am now even more impatient than before.

  • @NeilMcAliece
    @NeilMcAliece ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Despite all of the doom and gloom about phones killing off dedicated cameras and AI, I'm convinced that there's never been a better time to be a photographer. What's possible in 2023 is awesome.
    I had similar worries with the Fuji 150-600 f8, but a similar experience when I bought it. Zero regrets and massive fun. At the long end it's 900mm equivalent. It's tack sharp wide open. You loose a bit in low light performance in a crop sensor, but even so in low but nice light I've had images I love at ISO 3200 F8. It allows (for me) shooting 900mm eq handheld sharp at 1/200 with about a 70% hit rate. Similar experience with video.

  • @TheWildlifeGallery388
    @TheWildlifeGallery388 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My main shooting times are blue to golden hour here where I live, rarely am I out past a couple hours after sunrise, my 600 F/4 prime can struggle at these time frames, so I'm sure an f9 just wouldn't work. For those that can't seem to get out of bed to make that type of lighting, then this 2-8 F/9 would be handy as you wouldn't have the weight of the prime. The image quality looks decent for the price range of this lens. - I look forward to a more comprehensive review.

    • @Duade
      @Duade  ปีที่แล้ว

      G'day I agee re the primes, there is no comparison to the fast primes, they will always have that massive advantage. This lens is more of a secondary lens when you cannot be bothered with the weight or size of the prime. You can have this next to you in the car or when scouting in the bush etc. Or of course if you cannot afford a big prime. It is no replacement that is for sure. Cheers, Duade

  • @Skux720
    @Skux720 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super excited about this lens too. 800mm in a handholdable lens is a real game changer.

  • @JevgeniFil
    @JevgeniFil ปีที่แล้ว

    Duade, thank you for sharing your experience and photos! Trully an amazing and somewhat affordable lens!

  • @unclebuck5957
    @unclebuck5957 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waiting for mine to come in . The shots look great can't wait to get mine

  • @JikoMuskato
    @JikoMuskato 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm really considering getting this lens. Right now I'm still using the Canon EF 100-400mm 4.5-5.6 L IS USM. But even on a crop frame camera this doesn't get as much reach as the 200-800 on a full frame camera. And you can easily increase the ISO on full frame cameras by two steps if needed because of the aperture and still get cleaner images. Plus if you consider using a tele converter on the 100-400mm in order to get more reach you lose any aperture benefit of the shorter lens. A 2x converter would even result in less light.

  • @craigforeman5153
    @craigforeman5153 ปีที่แล้ว

    I received mine today. I shoot with a R7. Coming from the rf100-400 it appears the image quality is better. The reach is fantastic. I’m able to get photos at twice the distance and with better image quality - so much fun! Aloha from Maui!

  • @AlphaZuluPhotography
    @AlphaZuluPhotography ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wondering if I should sell my 100-500 and pick this up instead? I love my 100-500 but just doesn’t have the reach a lot of times. I’m sure image quality is still better on the 100-500 but not having to crop so much on my R6mkii might negate that fact.

  • @JH-qv3xv
    @JH-qv3xv ปีที่แล้ว

    It sure looks like we will get lot of what we have been asking for. Keep calling out the improvements, For now , those of us with an EF 100-400 ,a couple of TC's, a R6, a RF800 f11 and a lot of sunshine are going to be happy (I will be) when our preorders get shipped. Thanks

  • @timothyportas629
    @timothyportas629 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great first impressions video Duade and some fantastic images. This lens appears to deliver some sharp images and smooth backgrounds despite the aperture. I currently use the Sigma 60-600 mm F4.5-6.3 sports and the RF 800 mm F9. I've been contemplating this new lens as a replacement and this review has been helpful. Well done on another great video!