Ran out of room for links so here’s the rest of the articles and videos I intended to link in the description deadline.com/2018/03/ava-duvernay-new-gods-movie-warner-bros-dc-jack-kirby-1202338680/ & www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/ava-duvernays-new-gods-james-wans-the-trench-dc-movies-not-moving-forward-at-warner-bros-4159843/ - articles about New Gods web.archive.org/web/20211013014756/www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_films/the-addams-family-director-barry-sonnenfeld-confirms-dcs-metal-men-is-in-active-development-exclusive-a188737 - article about the Metal Men film www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/constantine-hbo-max-series-in-works-1304447/ - article about Constantine show www.digitalspy.com/movies/a42600693/dwayne-johnson-dc-universe-denies-takeover/ - article where Dwayne Johnson claims he didn't try and take over the DCEU www.ign.com/articles/suicide-squad-directors-cut-hopes-die-as-david-ayer-himself-is-done-with-dc? - article about the Ayer Cut twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/1688419559827726336 - David Ayer tweet about the Ayer Cut www.inverse.com/entertainment/the-flash-bad-cgi-vfx - article about the bad Flash CGI www.thewrap.com/greg-berlanti-says-dc-films-booster-gold-movie-still-development-warner-bros/ - article about the Booster Gold film web.archive.org/web/20201127012839/movieweb.com/joker-harley-quinn-movie-decu-canceled/ - article about Harley Quinn vs The Joker www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/vksd37/actress_caroline_kwan_claims_that_her_friend/ - reddit post about the cancelled Flash series comicbook.com/dc/news/deathstroke-solo-movie-joe-manganiello-dceu-zack-snyders-justice-league/ & sports.yahoo.com/gareth-evans-deathstroke-movie-details-131617458.html - articles about the Deathstroke film thedirect.com/article/justice-league-zack-snyder-sequel-comic-project-cancelled - article about the Justice League Motion Comic www.ladbible.com/entertainment/film-and-tv-margot-robbie-reveals-why-she-dislikes-being-half-nude-as-harley-quinn-20190105 & www.koimoi.com/hollywood-news/when-margot-robbie-defended-her-uncomfortable-yet-fun-harley-quinn-outfit-by-saying-she-didnt-wear-it-just-because-she-wanted-guys-to-look-at-her-as/ - articles about Margot Robbie's opinion on the 2016 Harley design web.archive.org/web/20201112015458/www.denofgeek.com/movies/green-lantern-corps-movie-release-date-and-more-details/ - article about the Green Lantern Corps movie batman-news.com/2019/07/06/christopher-mcquarrie-pitched-both-superman-and-green-lantern-to-warner-bros/ & collider.com/christopher-mcquarrie-man-of-steel-2-green-lantern/ - articles about Christopher Mcquarrie's Green Lantern film deadline.com/2020/07/jason-momoa-frosty-the-snowman-live-action-warner-bros-stampede-1202975009/ & movieweb.com/jason-momoa-justice-league-investigation-fake-frosty-snowman-announcement/ - article about the Frosty situation th-cam.com/video/xe35j-4Ips4/w-d-xo.html - WarpingFist!'s video on the Batfleck film facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157670061523247 & www.artstation.com/artwork/LdNor - concept art for Justice League Dark ew.com/movies/ben-affleck-will-not-direct-batman-james-gunn-dc-movies-after-justice-league/ - article about Ben Affleck being done with DC www.cbr.com/zack-snyder-dceu-movie-arc-epic-emotional/ - article about Justice League 2 and 3 screenrant.com/batman-v-superman-jimmy-olsen-death-explained-zack-snyder/ - article about Jimmy Olsen collider.com/wonder-woman-amazon-origin-story-changes-patty-jenkins-connie-nielsen/ - article about the origin Amazons origin ew.com/movies/jared-leto-clarifies-suicide-squad-gifts/ & comicbookmovie.com/suicide-squad/ike-barinholtz-recounts-jared-letos-insane-behavior-on-suicide-squad-set-a127871 & www.mtv.com/news/aspogt/suicide-squad-cast-jared-leto-joker - articles about what Jared Leto did during filming deadline.com/2023/12/jason-momoa-peter-safran-aquaman-1235680244/ - Jason Momoa talking about Aquaman 3 finance.yahoo.com/news/buy-flash-nft-just-weeks-161953677.html - article about Flash's NFT release www.cinemablend.com/news/2398902/zack-snyder-confirms-the-dceu-lex-luthors-dark-origin - article where Snyder confirms Lex killed his dad th-cam.com/video/Knw-Hmo4GZE/w-d-xo.html - DC - The World Needs Heroes deadline.com/2023/10/francis-lawrence-constantine-sequel-keanu-reeves-1235588219/ - article about Constantine 2 www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/5ba5oe/dceu_general_zod_has_no_dick/ - reddit post about that Zod theory deadline.com/2021/03/warner-bros-d-c-films-chernin-hourman-film-gavin-james-and-neil-widener-1234716614/ - article about Hourman
The fact that WB were stupid enough to fire an innocent Johnny Depp from Fantastic Beasts. And kept a guilty Ezra Miller and Amber Heard in the DCEU makes me sick.
@@Person-wz6iy While Marvel/Disney are almost too quick to axe a talent after allegations come out, it is a stark contrast to WB seeming to encourage their talent while shielding them from criticism
44:52 The idea of using audio from the cut bathroom scene from Joker immediately followed by Teen Titans Go Beast Boy saying “Waffles waffles waffles” would have been the funniest tonal whiplash in the history of tv shows.
In Blue Beetle, there was a cut line of dialogue referencing "Supergirl of Metropolis." So blue beetle would've continued the Flashpoint DCEU It was changed to Superman Also for SS2 Not only would black adam be the main protagonist, Supergirl would be as well under magical mind control As part of a cult of black adam sacrificing young girls.
As a DC fan, this video upset me because it was just a full 2 hours of showing how WB was like “Hey you know that character that fans love that we just announced is gonna get a movie/ TV show? WE DONT!” *Cancelled*. WB is such a joke. Still loved the video Pigpen. Keep up the great work
@@who-ny5oe hot take I’m kinda glad they didn’t do the synder verse yes it’s sad with what happened also he sais in this video that the synder verse is not going to happen
I hate that most part of the entries are "This movie/series was announced/in development, but it was cancelled". Don't get me wrong, that's not a problem with the iceberg or the video, but is so sad to know that so many opportunities were lost and wasted because of WB 😢
With this video I found out that Blue Beetle was part of the DCEU. I legit thought that movie was made for a separate continuity just like The Batman or Joker were.
I'll be honest, the fact that you know your next iceberg won't do good but you WANT to make it for you and your audience makes me feel mad respect for you! Keep up the good work! This was a nice tribute to this messy cinematic universe
The context as to why WBD wanted the Bruce Wayne cameo at the end of Aquaman 2, is apparently because they wanted Keaton-Batman to serve the same role in the Post-Flash DCEU, that Nick Fury does in the MCU.
Damn, you could make an entire iceberg just from the cancelled projects. That’s how many of them there are LMAO. RIP the DCEU, 2013 - 2023 (technically 2024 if you count that tie in comic)
The thing is that the "Lex Luthor Jr." thing isn't entirely consistent. Im pretty sure at one point in BVS you can see a newspaper that mentions "Lex Luthor's father, Lionel Luthor"
something interesting about Aquaman 2 and it's $430 million box office number is that it's actually the highest box office a DCEU movie has seen since Aquaman 1 in 2018
i always thought the dceu was scrapped due to bombing movies but after seeing this endless rabbit hole of cancelled movies and delayed projects and unfinished ideas and whatever the fuck else i'm surprised this lasted for as long as it did, ive never seen this much development hell surround a single franchise oh my god
@@thatoneantoid51 eh I preferred the more serious tone of the DCEU. Personally I am so tired of every character in the MCU being reduced to jokers and jesters trying to make as many lamé jokes within a 6 second timeframe
There was also an audio drama that was released with The Flash, titled The Flash: Escape the Midnight Circus, which apparently takes place after the movie, in the new timeline. Assuming Aquaman 2 takes place before the timeline reset in The Flash, it technically makes the audio drama the last DCEU story chronologically.
Jimmy Olsen was truly treated dirty in the DCEU, they could’ve just made him a background character for comic book nerds then needing to kill him off.🐱
"I have this idea for a film involving one of our tentpole superheroes and we can fill some of the supporting character roster with characters from the comic books." "Great idea. Solid. One suggestion: GIVE THOSE CHARACTERS THEIR OWN FILMS! YOU'RE GREENLIT! ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS!" "Uh, that's spreading ourselves a bit thin. If those B-List supporting characters get their own films then they are going to need their own supporting characters from the C-List-" "Great idea. NOW GIVE THOSE SUPPORTING SUPPORTING CHARACTERS THEIR OWN FILM! YOU'RE GREENLIT! ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS" "Uh....fuck it." -DC/WB, I presume
This is very cool. Was more interested in the DCEU than the MCU and more of a DC fan over all so this is cool. Love your icebergs man. Very educational lol
12:04 I legit slammed the table as soon as I heard deathstroke was gonna be in the movie, one of my favourite dc characters and yet didn’t get a chance to show up
black adam was the movie that hurt me the most out of the dceu. I had such how hopes for a darker take of an anti hero or villain story. There are many things i can see and pick out which would of made it a better movie. It now may be years till we get a new black adam appearance.
The damage done to WB from sabotaging this universe is massive. 30 minutes removed from BvS and it resulted in all this. A good reminder that you need to give people a fair chance
12:20 I'm so glad this got canned. What is with the DCEU foisting everyone else's stories on the Big Three? Superman stealing Black Adam from Billy Batson _and_ Batman stealing Deathstroke's vendetta from Nightwing?
I just wanted to say I appreciate your videos a lot and I like how tou edit your videos. I been here for awhile and always enjoyed these. Excited for this one
So essentially what im hearing here is that the downfall of the dceu was due to warner bros being warner bros and interfering too much in the development of these movies(i pray that the dcu succeds dude, being a dc fan iver marvel it'll be good to see some dc amongst all this marvel)
Here’s some controversial opinions for everyone regarding the DCEU: - I think the BvS Knightmare Scene was badass and Batman using a gun in that context is understandable. Like compare the fight choreography of that scene to the Last Jedi Throne Room fight. Night and Day. -I honestly think that if the Snyder cut released as planned in theatres, it would have gotten mostly positive reviews and renewed faith in the current DCEU. Like seeing that Speed force scene would have blown audiences away. -I found that joke in Barbie about the ZSJL being something only men care about bizzare, since I’m trans female and i really liked it…and there’s significantly more screentime for women in the ZSJL, and no weird groped scenes the theatrical version had. So what gives? I feel like the director hadn’t actually seen it. -Lastly, i think Zack Snyders 2 other planned Justice League Movies can still happen in the future, but after James Gunns DCU is established, more spin-offs could be made, and Zack Snyder and James Gunn are friends, so it’s always possible!
I haven't seen Barbie, but that just sounds like a lazy joke for the people they *think* are in the audience, i.e. a bunch of women who only put up with superhero movies & couldn't possibly have any real interest in them. Like cop shows pretending everyone who plays video games is some unwashed shut-in neckbeard.
@@YourDadsOnlyFanI agree, that’s how it came off, stereotyping. Which is bizzare as Barbie was about subverting stereotypes. Also Snyder is usually a good sport about jokes about him and he did say he heard this joke.
I found your channel about a week ago and I’ve already watched about half of them so when I clicked this one I thought I was watching an older one so when I saw few hours ago I went … nice
57:43 i remember getting a BVS comic book by a cereal box when i was younger it was cool but the comic i got always confused me was it canon or not due to having random halo looking aliens attack the city I don't know if anyone else also remeber that one too
16:20 I am completely confused what he meant by this I’m genuinely at a loss of words this is like cult leader talk. This is a great video, but I’ve never been more frustrated since the alien iceberg on how much loss potential and frustrating corporate choices have been made. You could argue that aliens had made a lot of weird decisions from the past 30 years, but the DC universe is like not even barely 10 years old. And the only thing that’s consistent is inconsistency. Also don’t trust anything. The rock says he is a pathological psychopathic liar. The man will lie about anything. He’s lied about the first time going to In-N-Out about like seven times now just for free promotion.
1:22:38 this entry pisses me off because I love that character so much in the Comics and 1:39:22 I remember reading that comment when it came out, and I am so frustrated. And the whole idea of Zeus, being a kryptonian is just even more infuriating.
Here’s an interesting idea, why not make a iceberg on the worlds most confused, over ambitious and shortest Cinematic Universe yet, *The Dark Universe.* might seem too short, as it only has one film, right? Well no, it actually has 4 or 5 films. How? Well, Universals first planned film for what would eventually become the Dark Universe is a film called “Dracula Untold” a film about Dracula in the Medieval Times….however it ends with a post credits scene showing Dracula in the modern times, meeting with a group that was probably supposed to be like SHIELD. Later on with the official announcement of the Dark Universe, people asked if Dracula Untold was still Canon? They said no. For whatever reason, they retconned it out of the universe. And lastly, in the 2017 Mummy film, meant to be the FIRST official entry into the Dark Universe, introduces Prodigium, a SHIELD ripoff meant to investigate and contain Monsters…and in their collection of Artifacts, they very explicitly show the Magical Book from The Mummy 2…..,meaning the first 3 Mummy movies are also canon to the Dark Universe, totalling in 4 films….or 5, if you include Dracula Untold, as nothing actually contradicts it.
As someone who grew up with these movies but is a dc fan these movies were always hit or miss and in all honesty just can’t wait for what the dcu has to offer
Crazy to look back and deep into the absolute mess the DCEU was. Btw personally very hyped for the UC Gundam iceberg, I'm a massive fan of Gundam, just built my RG Unicorn funny enough
The Olympians are....Kryptonain Survivors 🤨?? Wouldn't that make Superman view as A God Amongst Men? ( the start of the Injustice storyline ) Zach Snyder should 😊NEVER be involved with another Super hero AGAIN!! THE GUY'S JUST WEIRD😵💫!!
Now I don’t want it to end for a long time but imagine if PigPen or someone else made a huge MCU iceberg video covering all of the behind the scenes info like this video, but only after the MCU has its last official movie/series
Hey, loved this video. As someone who works in a warehouse driving a forklift and needs stuff to listen to I appreciate these long videos and the detail you went into. Are you a fan of Star Trek and/or would you do a video on that franchise? Daniel at Trekbbs has made up a picture of one of these icebergs. It's kind of wild.
As a huge Green Lantern Fan, I’m not hyped for the DCU Green Lantern Corps TV Show. He described it as an “detective show primarily based on earth” ….that’s not what Green Lantern is about. That’s Batman. Green Lantern is about space wars.
Idk if i missed it but the people didn’t just start liking the supes after the threat was over.its a news paper article near the end n if you read it it says that batman is at large n superman started working for the government n basically thr government still wanted them to either work for them or retire
Ran out of room for links so here’s the rest of the articles and videos I intended to link in the description
deadline.com/2018/03/ava-duvernay-new-gods-movie-warner-bros-dc-jack-kirby-1202338680/ & www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/ava-duvernays-new-gods-james-wans-the-trench-dc-movies-not-moving-forward-at-warner-bros-4159843/ - articles about New Gods
web.archive.org/web/20211013014756/www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_films/the-addams-family-director-barry-sonnenfeld-confirms-dcs-metal-men-is-in-active-development-exclusive-a188737 - article about the Metal Men film
www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/constantine-hbo-max-series-in-works-1304447/ - article about Constantine show
www.digitalspy.com/movies/a42600693/dwayne-johnson-dc-universe-denies-takeover/ - article where Dwayne Johnson claims he didn't try and take over the DCEU
www.ign.com/articles/suicide-squad-directors-cut-hopes-die-as-david-ayer-himself-is-done-with-dc? - article about the Ayer Cut
twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/1688419559827726336 - David Ayer tweet about the Ayer Cut
www.inverse.com/entertainment/the-flash-bad-cgi-vfx - article about the bad Flash CGI
www.thewrap.com/greg-berlanti-says-dc-films-booster-gold-movie-still-development-warner-bros/ - article about the Booster Gold film
web.archive.org/web/20201127012839/movieweb.com/joker-harley-quinn-movie-decu-canceled/ - article about Harley Quinn vs The Joker
www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/vksd37/actress_caroline_kwan_claims_that_her_friend/ - reddit post about the cancelled Flash series
comicbook.com/dc/news/deathstroke-solo-movie-joe-manganiello-dceu-zack-snyders-justice-league/ & sports.yahoo.com/gareth-evans-deathstroke-movie-details-131617458.html - articles about the Deathstroke film
thedirect.com/article/justice-league-zack-snyder-sequel-comic-project-cancelled - article about the Justice League Motion Comic
www.ladbible.com/entertainment/film-and-tv-margot-robbie-reveals-why-she-dislikes-being-half-nude-as-harley-quinn-20190105 & www.koimoi.com/hollywood-news/when-margot-robbie-defended-her-uncomfortable-yet-fun-harley-quinn-outfit-by-saying-she-didnt-wear-it-just-because-she-wanted-guys-to-look-at-her-as/ - articles about Margot Robbie's opinion on the 2016 Harley design
web.archive.org/web/20201112015458/www.denofgeek.com/movies/green-lantern-corps-movie-release-date-and-more-details/ - article about the Green Lantern Corps movie
batman-news.com/2019/07/06/christopher-mcquarrie-pitched-both-superman-and-green-lantern-to-warner-bros/ & collider.com/christopher-mcquarrie-man-of-steel-2-green-lantern/ - articles about Christopher Mcquarrie's Green Lantern film
deadline.com/2020/07/jason-momoa-frosty-the-snowman-live-action-warner-bros-stampede-1202975009/ & movieweb.com/jason-momoa-justice-league-investigation-fake-frosty-snowman-announcement/ - article about the Frosty situation
th-cam.com/video/xe35j-4Ips4/w-d-xo.html - WarpingFist!'s video on the Batfleck film
facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157670061523247 & www.artstation.com/artwork/LdNor - concept art for Justice League Dark
ew.com/movies/ben-affleck-will-not-direct-batman-james-gunn-dc-movies-after-justice-league/ - article about Ben Affleck being done with DC
www.cbr.com/zack-snyder-dceu-movie-arc-epic-emotional/ - article about Justice League 2 and 3
screenrant.com/batman-v-superman-jimmy-olsen-death-explained-zack-snyder/ - article about Jimmy Olsen
collider.com/wonder-woman-amazon-origin-story-changes-patty-jenkins-connie-nielsen/ - article about the origin Amazons origin
ew.com/movies/jared-leto-clarifies-suicide-squad-gifts/ & comicbookmovie.com/suicide-squad/ike-barinholtz-recounts-jared-letos-insane-behavior-on-suicide-squad-set-a127871 & www.mtv.com/news/aspogt/suicide-squad-cast-jared-leto-joker - articles about what Jared Leto did during filming
deadline.com/2023/12/jason-momoa-peter-safran-aquaman-1235680244/ - Jason Momoa talking about Aquaman 3
finance.yahoo.com/news/buy-flash-nft-just-weeks-161953677.html - article about Flash's NFT release
www.cinemablend.com/news/2398902/zack-snyder-confirms-the-dceu-lex-luthors-dark-origin - article where Snyder confirms Lex killed his dad
th-cam.com/video/Knw-Hmo4GZE/w-d-xo.html - DC - The World Needs Heroes
deadline.com/2023/10/francis-lawrence-constantine-sequel-keanu-reeves-1235588219/ - article about Constantine 2
www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/5ba5oe/dceu_general_zod_has_no_dick/ - reddit post about that Zod theory
deadline.com/2021/03/warner-bros-d-c-films-chernin-hourman-film-gavin-james-and-neil-widener-1234716614/ - article about Hourman
Do a warhammer 40k iceberg
@@RoyGuerrero1904no
@Pig3636, are you excited about Deadpool 3
@@Pigpen_YT ok I understand
@@Wizardmaster85_3.0eh
Take a shot every time pigpen says ''this isn't happening because the DCEU is death''
And every "HOWEVER"
Or every way he tries not to say Suicide Squad
@@realyungjoe "but then again"
I am ready to meet the DCEU 😂😂
and every "cancelled"
Ryan Gosling being the joker would have been detrimental to the internet
Litterally me living in a society 😂
drive to the literally me society
The internet would've broken lol
I'd rather see Cameron Monaghan reprise that role becomes an official joker and a part of the DCU
Ryan gosling as the joker would do irreparable damage to this generation's men
Expicaly w margot
I would have been a great joker
TL;DR, Warner Bros Execs being indecisive for 2 hours
Warner bros execs being indecisive for 10 years summarised in 2 hours
Not *just* indecisive. Also very poorly decisive.
@@TheStraightestWhitest ik 😂
Jajaja
all the DCEU's behind the scene dramas are more engaging than the movies itself
Worthy of Documentary
This is all going to make a very engaging docu-series one day
The fact that WB were stupid enough to fire an innocent Johnny Depp from Fantastic Beasts. And kept a guilty Ezra Miller and Amber Heard in the DCEU makes me sick.
@@Person-wz6iy While Marvel/Disney are almost too quick to axe a talent after allegations come out, it is a stark contrast to WB seeming to encourage their talent while shielding them from criticism
@@Person-wz6iyyeah
The hierarchy of power on TH-cam is about to change
What? That’s ominous…
@@markricheard1870 it’s the meme from the black Adam press tour
@@benquadrinaros8692Now Rock thinks he can do the same to WWE 😂😂
@@lewisaino#wewantcody
romeoproductions99 Cody should clap back at Rock saying since James Gunn doesn't want you now you want to ruin WM 😂😂
im not even 30 minutes in but I love all the "alternate" names for the two squad movies
44:52 The idea of using audio from the cut bathroom scene from Joker immediately followed by Teen Titans Go Beast Boy saying “Waffles waffles waffles” would have been the funniest tonal whiplash in the history of tv shows.
The era around Aquaman and Shazam was a time I actually thought the DCEU was going to survive.
After headless superman I knew it was joever
why? 😭
@@currentlyunnamedsorry the first Shazam was actually decent
Lol copium
@@basedbrit4206 tbh it was barely watchable
In Blue Beetle, there was a cut line of dialogue referencing "Supergirl of Metropolis." So blue beetle would've continued the Flashpoint DCEU It was changed to Superman
Also for SS2 Not only would black adam be the main protagonist, Supergirl would be as well under magical mind control As part of a cult of black adam sacrificing young girls.
"Avengers: endgame yourself squad" Oscar worthy title right there
As a DC fan, this video upset me because it was just a full 2 hours of showing how WB was like “Hey you know that character that fans love that we just announced is gonna get a movie/ TV show? WE DONT!” *Cancelled*. WB is such a joke. Still loved the video Pigpen. Keep up the great work
I am so PISSED off what they did to Zack Snyder. 😤😤😤😤😤😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Maybe one day it will be good but hay definitely not today
@@who-ny5oe hot take I’m kinda glad they didn’t do the synder verse yes it’s sad with what happened also he sais in this video that the synder verse is not going to happen
@@who-ny5oePlease stop.
Of course the DCEU Batman would have merch, he’s all about branding
I hate that most part of the entries are "This movie/series was announced/in development, but it was cancelled". Don't get me wrong, that's not a problem with the iceberg or the video, but is so sad to know that so many opportunities were lost and wasted because of WB 😢
With this video I found out that Blue Beetle was part of the DCEU. I legit thought that movie was made for a separate continuity just like The Batman or Joker were.
somewhere in some weird and quirky timeline Ryan Gosling became the Joker he would've become into yet another Internet Sexyman
OPRAH? OPRAH AS AMANDA WALLER?
So many choices in that segment made my head spin, but that one had me flat out pausing the video to think.
For me, it was Emma Watson as Harley Quinn 😂 I was like "...wat...?!"
This almost makes me want to eat a cockroach burger because I'm just born to be wild like that
Nevermind, most of this iceberg is depressing
I'll be honest, the fact that you know your next iceberg won't do good but you WANT to make it for you and your audience makes me feel mad respect for you! Keep up the good work! This was a nice tribute to this messy cinematic universe
Strange confused and entertaining is a great way to describe this universe
The context as to why WBD wanted the Bruce Wayne cameo at the end of Aquaman 2, is apparently because they wanted Keaton-Batman to serve the same role in the Post-Flash DCEU, that Nick Fury does in the MCU.
So much potential, wasted but I'll always remember the good times
What good times? 💀💀
😂@@corazonenalmibar
Damn, you could make an entire iceberg just from the cancelled projects. That’s how many of them there are LMAO.
RIP the DCEU, 2013 - 2023 (technically 2024 if you count that tie in comic)
The thing is that the "Lex Luthor Jr." thing isn't entirely consistent. Im pretty sure at one point in BVS you can see a newspaper that mentions "Lex Luthor's father, Lionel Luthor"
I guess his mom could of been called Alex, that way he's technically Lex Luthor junior
something interesting about Aquaman 2 and it's $430 million box office number is that it's actually the highest box office a DCEU movie has seen since Aquaman 1 in 2018
Unfortunately for the Warners and their trained lemmings, a good figure is a billion dollars.
Very excited for a Captain America Iceberg! Love your videos, I listen to them on my night shift job.
It's so criminal that we don't have a Static Shock Movie. I loved the series so much as a kid. And I looked up to the series and the morals it shares.
i always thought the dceu was scrapped due to bombing movies but after seeing this endless rabbit hole of cancelled movies and delayed projects and unfinished ideas and whatever the fuck else i'm surprised this lasted for as long as it did, ive never seen this much development hell surround a single franchise oh my god
This video is the final goodbye to the DCEU
*R.I.P. DCEU (2013-2023)*
Hope James can truly create a Redemption Franchise
@@lewisaino to be honest I’m afraid it will just be the MCU but DC characters
@@jakespacepiratee3740Maybe weirdly enough that can save it
@@jakespacepiratee3740 I mean is that so much worse than what the majority of DCEU is?
@@thatoneantoid51 eh I preferred the more serious tone of the DCEU. Personally I am so tired of every character in the MCU being reduced to jokers and jesters trying to make as many lamé jokes within a 6 second timeframe
There was also an audio drama that was released with The Flash, titled The Flash: Escape the Midnight Circus, which apparently takes place after the movie, in the new timeline. Assuming Aquaman 2 takes place before the timeline reset in The Flash, it technically makes the audio drama the last DCEU story chronologically.
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I hope people stay active and give you all the support! I love these icebergs!
Jimmy Olsen was truly treated dirty in the DCEU, they could’ve just made him a background character for comic book nerds then needing to kill him off.🐱
"I have this idea for a film involving one of our tentpole superheroes and we can fill some of the supporting character roster with characters from the comic books."
"Great idea. Solid. One suggestion: GIVE THOSE CHARACTERS THEIR OWN FILMS! YOU'RE GREENLIT! ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS!"
"Uh, that's spreading ourselves a bit thin. If those B-List supporting characters get their own films then they are going to need their own supporting characters from the C-List-"
"Great idea. NOW GIVE THOSE SUPPORTING SUPPORTING CHARACTERS THEIR OWN FILM! YOU'RE GREENLIT! ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS"
"Uh....fuck it."
-DC/WB, I presume
I going to miss DCEU Pigpen but I can wait to see James Gunn DCU universe such as Superman Legacy
Unified Pegpen
Drink everytime he says "however". How long until you're in a coma
You’ll die
@@Pigpen_YTHOWEVER...
Honestly, Matt Smith as a Joker (but in something well written and directed)? I would love to see that!
This is very cool. Was more interested in the DCEU than the MCU and more of a DC fan over all so this is cool. Love your icebergs man. Very educational lol
The commercials are always such a nice touch, dude
12:04 I legit slammed the table as soon as I heard deathstroke was gonna be in the movie, one of my favourite dc characters and yet didn’t get a chance to show up
black adam was the movie that hurt me the most out of the dceu. I had such how hopes for a darker take of an anti hero or villain story.
There are many things i can see and pick out which would of made it a better movie. It now may be years till we get a new black adam appearance.
The damage done to WB from sabotaging this universe is massive. 30 minutes removed from BvS and it resulted in all this. A good reminder that you need to give people a fair chance
I think it would be cool if in dc killawog becomes the main green lantern for a bit
Damn Bryan Cranston is the perfect choice but at least we got him in Batman year one :D
Finally a watchable video my feed was dry until now thanks pigpen
Isn't it crazy TH-cam has more content than ever, yet most of it is unwatchable garbage?
So fucking sad hearing about everything they cancelled
I wasn't even a big fan of the DCEU to begin with
Respect for acknowledging Sam as Cap and that his accomplishments and Steve's are their own :)
55:45 IT'S THE FREAKIN MAAAAAN
12:20 I'm so glad this got canned. What is with the DCEU foisting everyone else's stories on the Big Three? Superman stealing Black Adam from Billy Batson _and_ Batman stealing Deathstroke's vendetta from Nightwing?
Been looking forward to this one ever since you announced plans for it!
To be honest this iceberg is probably the best thing to come out of dceu
I just wanted to say I appreciate your videos a lot and I like how tou edit your videos. I been here for awhile and always enjoyed these. Excited for this one
So essentially what im hearing here is that the downfall of the dceu was due to warner bros being warner bros and interfering too much in the development of these movies(i pray that the dcu succeds dude, being a dc fan iver marvel it'll be good to see some dc amongst all this marvel)
Please do the X-Men iceberg next. That one would be so rich in content.
Also why do you pronounce Etrigan EE-TRY-GUN lol
That’s how people said it was pronounced
Something to include, apparently Ray Fisher absolutely hated his "Booyah" line
Probably because it was extremely forced
J.J Abrams was legalized bank robbery at Wb and kinda have to respect it
Here’s some controversial opinions for everyone regarding the DCEU:
- I think the BvS Knightmare Scene was badass and Batman using a gun in that context is understandable. Like compare the fight choreography of that scene to the Last Jedi Throne Room fight. Night and Day.
-I honestly think that if the Snyder cut released as planned in theatres, it would have gotten mostly positive reviews and renewed faith in the current DCEU. Like seeing that Speed force scene would have blown audiences away.
-I found that joke in Barbie about the ZSJL being something only men care about bizzare, since I’m trans female and i really liked it…and there’s significantly more screentime for women in the ZSJL, and no weird groped scenes the theatrical version had. So what gives? I feel like the director hadn’t actually seen it.
-Lastly, i think Zack Snyders 2 other planned Justice League Movies can still happen in the future, but after James Gunns DCU is established, more spin-offs could be made, and Zack Snyder and James Gunn are friends, so it’s always possible!
Maybe James can ask Snyder help him or direct
Ben Affleck's Batman was flat-out badass, BvS is so ridiculously overhated
@@lewisaino mayhaps Snyder can get his own film or co-direct one in the new DCU.
I haven't seen Barbie, but that just sounds like a lazy joke for the people they *think* are in the audience, i.e. a bunch of women who only put up with superhero movies & couldn't possibly have any real interest in them. Like cop shows pretending everyone who plays video games is some unwashed shut-in neckbeard.
@@YourDadsOnlyFanI agree, that’s how it came off, stereotyping. Which is bizzare as Barbie was about subverting stereotypes. Also Snyder is usually a good sport about jokes about him and he did say he heard this joke.
Wow hearing Snyder’s trilogy plans it is not shocking they didn’t want to do that cause that sounds just so shitty
It's so funny that Darkseid only won because Batman fucked his friend's partner
what happened to Batgirl will forever piss me off
Hulk is going to be HYPE.
I found your channel about a week ago and I’ve already watched about half of them so when I clicked this one I thought I was watching an older one so when I saw few hours ago I went … nice
Thanks for still making funni ice burg
57:43 i remember getting a BVS comic book by a cereal box when i was younger it was cool but the comic i got always confused me was it canon or not due to having random halo looking aliens attack the city
I don't know if anyone else also remeber that one too
To this day I’m still sad we never got Gotham city sirens, green lantern corps, new gods & afflecks Batman movie💔
For some reason I thought you already did a DC iceberg lol. Either way great video
Also, I am so glad these awful films are over with.
16:20 I am completely confused what he meant by this I’m genuinely at a loss of words this is like cult leader talk. This is a great video, but I’ve never been more frustrated since the alien iceberg on how much loss potential and frustrating corporate choices have been made. You could argue that aliens had made a lot of weird decisions from the past 30 years, but the DC universe is like not even barely 10 years old. And the only thing that’s consistent is inconsistency. Also don’t trust anything. The rock says he is a pathological psychopathic liar. The man will lie about anything. He’s lied about the first time going to In-N-Out about like seven times now just for free promotion.
1:22:38 this entry pisses me off because I love that character so much in the Comics and 1:39:22 I remember reading that comment when it came out, and I am so frustrated. And the whole idea of Zeus, being a kryptonian is just even more infuriating.
I didn't know like 99.9% of the stuff in this video. I say this is a good one.
I’d like to imagine there’s a world where Megan Fox or Alex Daddario played Enchantress and wore that outfit. That’s a world I want to be a part of
You reading Snyder’s quotes in a monotone voice just make me realize how silly Snyder is in his answers
I hope in the new dcu james gunn can revive the nightwing movie chris mckay has been trying for so long and we just need one
It has the same director as The Lego Batman Movie, so I have faith in it!
Here’s an interesting idea, why not make a iceberg on the worlds most confused, over ambitious and shortest Cinematic Universe yet, *The Dark Universe.* might seem too short, as it only has one film, right? Well no, it actually has 4 or 5 films. How? Well, Universals first planned film for what would eventually become the Dark Universe is a film called “Dracula Untold” a film about Dracula in the Medieval Times….however it ends with a post credits scene showing Dracula in the modern times, meeting with a group that was probably supposed to be like SHIELD.
Later on with the official announcement of the Dark Universe, people asked if Dracula Untold was still Canon? They said no. For whatever reason, they retconned it out of the universe.
And lastly, in the 2017 Mummy film, meant to be the FIRST official entry into the Dark Universe, introduces Prodigium, a SHIELD ripoff meant to investigate and contain Monsters…and in their collection of Artifacts, they very explicitly show the Magical Book from The Mummy 2…..,meaning the first 3 Mummy movies are also canon to the Dark Universe, totalling in 4 films….or 5, if you include Dracula Untold, as nothing actually contradicts it.
As someone who grew up with these movies but is a dc fan these movies were always hit or miss and in all honesty just can’t wait for what the dcu has to offer
Crazy to look back and deep into the absolute mess the DCEU was. Btw personally very hyped for the UC Gundam iceberg, I'm a massive fan of Gundam, just built my RG Unicorn funny enough
44:00 the first rewrite actually sounds kinda cool
Hell yeah love seeing another video by pigpen!! Thanks again for all the work you put into these!! Hope your 2024 is going well too!!
The Olympians are....Kryptonain Survivors 🤨?? Wouldn't that make Superman view as A God Amongst Men? ( the start of the Injustice storyline ) Zach Snyder should 😊NEVER be involved with another Super hero AGAIN!! THE GUY'S JUST WEIRD😵💫!!
Pigpen uploads video. Me happy
2:16:38 GOOBA!
RIP DCEU, it was alright
They NEED to make that Static movie happen, even if it's not a DCU film
Yeah, we need that film adaption of the episode where it's revealed that his friend's Dad is a racist.
Finally, I was waiting for this one!
Now I don’t want it to end for a long time but imagine if PigPen or someone else made a huge MCU iceberg video covering all of the behind the scenes info like this video, but only after the MCU has its last official movie/series
Love the video as always appreciate the hard work
Finally on time for a vid again, thanks for these videos theyve supoorted me for years
There’s another theory posed by Matpat himself witch says that Tim drake ‘died’ but actually turned into joker
You are the best,Keep up the great work🔥🔥
The goat Pigpen dropping another banger
Can't wait for the Green Fantern iceberg!!
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Hey, loved this video. As someone who works in a warehouse driving a forklift and needs stuff to listen to I appreciate these long videos and the detail you went into.
Are you a fan of Star Trek and/or would you do a video on that franchise? Daniel at Trekbbs has made up a picture of one of these icebergs. It's kind of wild.
That Affleck Batman movie would have been amazing
55:44 - The Man, the forgotten hero in the DCEU
Great iceberg again but I'm hype on the gundam iceberg 🗣🔥
As a huge Green Lantern Fan, I’m not hyped for the DCU Green Lantern Corps TV Show. He described it as an “detective show primarily based on earth” ….that’s not what Green Lantern is about. That’s Batman. Green Lantern is about space wars.
you should be an iceberg iceberg like about icebergs
OMG SNYDER HAD SO MANY BAD IDEAS! :(
The green lantern iceberg is gonna be peak
41:53 Green Fantern is my favorite CD Superhero.
There's never been a better team up capeshit movie than snyder justice league
Idk if i missed it but the people didn’t just start liking the supes after the threat was over.its a news paper article near the end n if you read it it says that batman is at large n superman started working for the government n basically thr government still wanted them to either work for them or retire
Nice to see you post man