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- Lab grown meat has been making headlines recently, but is it actually a better alternative to the traditional meat industry?
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“Gibbons and a handful of other researchers around the world are part of a cutting-edge area of technology called cellular agriculture that combines the latest advances in tissue-engineering, material sciences, bioengineering and synthetic biology to make animal products from the cell up. With the right kind of funding and USDA approval, lab-grown turkey meat could be on your plate in five to seven years.”
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The best solution I've heard is actually compromising. Being a weekday vegetarian and then allowing yourself to eat meat on the weekends would cut your meat consumption down drastically. I think the idea of saying you cant eat something is hard to follow but maybe moderation and limitation could be the key?
That's what I do and it's very underrated!
Or you could just eat what you want.
One cool thing is that lab grown meat could lead to custom meats. like all brown meat chicken, lemon infused shrimp, lobster with actual flavour, turducken steaks that transition from chicken to duck to turkey like neapolitan ice cream, ultra light tuna for some really weird sushi, and more. It could get as weird as you want, and make for some really interesting dinners out at restaurants that create their own meats.
I grew up on a dairy farm in Minnesota and I have worked on both our family farm and a commercial "factory" pig farm. I am very in favor of the concept of lab grown meat. Food production and farming are about cultivating for the needs of our society and stewarding the resources that we need to produce our food. I believe we need to respect our current methods of producing the food that we consume today while innovating for the foods we want to consume in the future.
I am a vegan because I understand the environmental impact, then the cruelty to animals is relevant and finally todays meat is processed even the animal is so full of stuff it's processed.
I’d be up for trying Human just because of my morbid curiosity; but I wouldn’t want to order it at McDonald’s. Artificial human growth should just be reserved for organ transfers.
lewaproductions I've heard Cannibals in interviews say the meat is sweet. Especially the thigh area. The only thing that can't be consumed are the brains as it has prions that are responsible for a disease similar to Mad Cow.
Killa Watt yea I’ve heard that too, and I don’t think it’s a good idea to eat the brain of any animal. If presented with like a small cube of human on like a tooth pick, that was either lab grown or in life they donated their body, I would want to try it.
lewaproductions really? 😧
lewaproductions it's a curiosity thing. You wouldn't be the first nor the last. I've wondered myself but I won't lose any sleep if I don't ever try it though. I wonder what human and what parts are preferred. Is a fat human better over a lean one? Is an athletic person more tougher meat? These are the questions. Lol. Oh here's the question. If you could eat a human would you eat a baby if served?
Killa Watt Well that’s why I gave the condition of lab grown or died but gave consent. A baby would have to be born naturally and thus not able to give consent. And I wouldn’t be out hunting for human meat; I’m just saying like I’m in international waters and someone offers a appetizer of filet Human on a cabab.
Solyent Trace. Ethical. Delicous. Sciency.
kallistiX1 MESSY TEA
Soylent is not delicious by any means. It's not terrible but it does not taste as good as a piece of lettuce.
Brain Stem Soup soylent is humans!!! What your eating is people!!! Ahahahahaaaaa
"Ethical"
kallistiX1 Top comment would come from an African.Who would have guessed that you love eating each other.
I tend to disagree that vegetables can fill the space of animal products. Vegetable fats/oils are incredibly over-processed and damaging and vegetables tend to score lower for other elements like whole proteins. I personally eat a low carb high fat diet and to have that made up of purely vegetables would be nearly impossible.
Veganism didn't work for me because of the constant spike and drop in my blood sugar and lack of protein and fats for me and my biological makeup. I appreciate anyone who can eat this way (or any other way they can get to work for them) because I absolutely understand what it's like to find a style of eating that makes you feel good and function well.
Hairyfrankfurt Veganism didn't work for you may be cuz you didn't plan it well. So, I think its you who failed and not veganism.
Also, you can disagree all you want but its a scientifically proven fact that the plant based foods are always better than animal based foods. In fact, the animal based foods have nothing specifically in them that plant based foods don't.
Plants proteins are as good as animal based proteins. No study proves that the amino acid profiles of the plant proteins are any inferior to that of animal proteins.
Not to mention that the plant proteins don't come with harmful nutrients like cholesterol and unsaturated fats.
Veganism is inconvenient but hey so is being a good person.
Also, the only reason people find veganism as inconvenient is the fact that you have to plan it properly but which dietary system in the world you don't ?
I'm sure the multi trillion meat industry is more than happy to have some competition that could be more easily quality controlled and more environmentally friendly. So I can't see why this sort of development struggles finding investment to improve!
I think meat was kind of a status symbol or measure of success at one time. I mean it has been like that in past. That's why it has become so much of a staple. Also only reason people don't cut out on animal product consumption because they have not tried. Taste is something that is really easy to influence.
someone said it before.Lab grown TIDE PODS.yummy.
Bago Garde hot.
Was looking for intellectual conversation in the comment section. Not going great so far.
+djentlover ,Does Soylent Green, ring a bell..
djentlover 1 in 1,000 chance you get one on youtube.
Why would you try to find that on yt comment section lol
I don't get why some people treat eating plants ok. But eating meat not ok because both can be treated as alive and dead. Plants need to grow and mature in order to consume it just like meat.
WhyteLis21 Plants are not sentient bro! They cannot feel pain.
Umm actually plants can feel pain...
Amine Kebdani Oh yea? And where did you get that information from?
Plants don't feel pain the way an animal does. They're aware of their environment and it ends there.
"SOILENT GREEN' 1970's has come to life~!!!!
"The food is people!!!!!"
Until recently meat made up less than 10% of my caloric intake, but my health has been growing steadily worse over the last couple of years. This summer I learned that I had leaky gut and systemic inflammation due to the an immune response my body launched in response to my consumption of grains (wheat, corn, rice, etc.) as well as certain vegetables (nightshade family- tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, etc.) and certain legumes (soy, fava, and peanuts); my doctor told me that I had to cut out all grains and all but a few select vegetables and fruits. Now meat makes up more than 85% of my caloric intake and my inflammation has gone way down. I know my experience is sort of unique and purely anecdotal but reducing meat consumption is not for everyone. If I could use lab grown meat I probably would (if it tasted okay and didn't cost more, had the same nutritional value etc.) but I think that day is a long ways off.
I'd eat human. I'd eat lab grown meat. I'll continue eating current meat as well.
I was thinking about lab grown human from the start.
I'd try a me burger.
She asked PETA about their opinion
PETA the people who stole pets from people's porches and euthanized them
PETA the people who said they would donate money to a homeless shelter in Boston if and only if they went vegetarian for a day (or was it week)
The list goes on.
I can't take people who have even remotely contact with PETA serous
I was so confused by the title. Thought they wanted to eat some lab grown human meat.
PETA made an intelligent rather than an emotion and radical decision? Maybe there is still hope for humanity.
Thank you so much for these series! I used to watch on your last channel that got taken over by NOW THIS
Eating human is always O.K. unless you're not a Korowai tribal member.
Grow me a double quarter pounder on a tree plz. Hahahhaaha. Seriously tho, this is intersting
i wouldn't mind growing a couple pounds of beef in the backyard
stryderblaze80 😂
protein is protein. It will all break down into base elements for absorbtion during digestions. Lab grown is good, but how do you get the same oils, fats, and texture of them....?
Human meat is the healthiest meat for people because the proteins are already set up right.
There was a movie made in 1973 about Trace burgers. They called it "Soylent Green." Watch out Trace!
Thank you for making this video!!!! I have been hunting for a video like this for a while that goes into detail about the ethics of lab grown meat. I think it will have a positive impact on the world and I really want it to succeed!!! Also interesting series of videos, glad to have seeker plus back!! ✌
Plant-based meat is the answer. Lab grown meat has potential but will take a lot of time to be accepted and viable.
I heard adding artificial heme to the PBM makes it taste meaty.
And plant based substitutes destroy sperm counts due to high concentrations of plant estrogen. Unless you want to sterilize all men, you'll have to spend a lot of time and money on research in this field too.
256shadesofgrey, yeah, no. Not at all. th-cam.com/video/gAXPUZDYMw8/w-d-xo.html
Disregard the channel name, there is plenty of evidence from non-vegan sources in the video.
The opinion of the presenter really makes no difference as long as the material is scientifically sound. Would you disregard a hypothetical well-rounded study showing that meat is healthy just because its conductors are carnists?
Perhaps it's your bias that makes you disregard this.
it can still be awesome for organ donation - I think.
Awesome episode Trace :) Keep up the amazing work :)
Haha, I met that mark post guy who made the meat. He actually works at the hospital I go to. I even saw some ground beef that was grown in their lab so that's pretty cool I guess.
I Freakin love all your tshirts love you Trace so happy your back
today(?) we grow meat... tomorrow we grow human organs... day after tomorrow we grow a sentient being
I can't see this becoming common place anytime soon, it will just be a novel item that people try once just to say they have. However I can see this being a stepping stone for bigger projects.
A vegetable farmer's field is full of tiny animals that are chopped to bits by a huge fast plow. Mice, ground nesting birds, bunnies, fawn deer, etc. Nobody escapes partaking in the death of animals for food.
Really liked that hidden ?intentional? pun.
(Because OK was originally used in war for 0 killed)
Hey Trace, love that you guys went back to the old format. However, there is a plethora of more intersesting topics than meat.
I love this show!!!! one thing you guys missed was that meat is considered an obtainable luxury...for a long time meat was for "special" occasions/ wealth...and its continued to now...go to any restaurant meat is always the most expensive...so the person might not because to buy a ferrari but no matter who you are you can enjoy meat similar to / starbucks / or iPhones (despite being equalivant quality at a lower price)...I super agree with vegitables as an after tought in the US, but since becoming mostly vegan, Ive realised on how much effort and daily planning that goes into just easy daily activities and for a busy adult, planning out your meals or home cooking isnt a easy choice to make.
I think the question that needs to be answered is, is lab grown meat even healthy??? And it’s more viable to grow more plants (for the planet, fair trade of land of course) and make plant based meats(more healthier)and not to mention easier? Work smarter not harder
I don't think that regular meat is actually unhealthy... But yeah, if lab grown meat is health to eat and can produced efficiently, then I'd give it a shot.
Jana Maria as a meat eater, if the lab grown meat can do everything that chicken and pig meat does (taste texture) I don’t see any problems with it myself - Apart from if it will uses less electricity and produce less C02 then the amount all the cows fart out .
Muh Russia salad Lab grown meat is going to be way more "processed" than naturally harvested meat.
Because plants taste nasty
There is still room for progress my friend, through the years meat will be healthier and healthier.
So if I was to culture my own cells. I guess I could host a BBQ with myself on the menu.
wait eating human is wrong ?
I don't think so
塞尔吉奥 bbq baby.
Depends on what country you're in, I suppose... It does tend to be frowned upon somewhat.
Zack Toor Foetus is a delicacy in Guangzhou province high end hotels, but you usually have to request it. China sells anything to eat. It's frozen, not fresh, though.
Ed Denoy ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
"Senior Food Editor" sounds like the best job title in the world.
I would say NO.
Prions... when meat would be produced in billions of kilograms , from millions of DNA donating people , too many things can go wrong.
spongy chicken?
reminds me of school lunch
In my opinion ideally, we would set up a new category of meat - ethical meat - which includes humanely farmed animals, sustainably hunted and fished animals, meat analogs (which never come from animal cells at all), and cultured meat. These kinds of ethical meat then can compete with each other. Eventually non-ethical meat should be phased out all together with only ethical meat being available for purchase and/or consumption. I am not against GMO foods (animal, plant, fungi, or otherwise - although I am against hormones and unnecessary antibiotics), however I think that they would be most successful in cultured meat given that cultured meat is already sort of man-made, this kind of status will also allow for the most modification of cultured meat to add in Omega 3 Fatty Acids (DHA, EPA, ALA) or other nutrients.
Overall though we should cut down on meat (and dairy) in the United States, but I do not think that most people should have to give up meat altogether if they want meat. Also we need a lot more research to perfect meat analogs and cultured meat.
The idea of eating human reminds me of modern-day vampire culture, where people whom believe they are or choose to be "vampires" will find consenting people (sometimes other "vampires") to donate blood (safely) for consumption. Also, speaking of blood, does drinking the blood of another animal (which is prohibited by many religions, but was also practiced by many cultures because of how rich in nutrients the blood is and the ease of collecting it without killing your livestock) count as eating meat.
The definition of meat that I used in this post was tissue or material that comes from animals (mammals, reptiles, amphibians, avian, fish, shellfish, insects, etc...) or attempts to stimulate with near complete accuracy the tissue of an animal.
The real potential here is for Space Travel.
Up until now, every scenario that involves humans living on another planet would also involve a strict Vegan diet, since you can't exactly bring a pig or a cow with you to Mars.
But if you can make meat like this . . . you could potentially have a burger. On Mars That WASN'T dehydrated and vacuum-sealed beyond its ability to be edible. A fresh burger could be a HUGE morale booster, ESPECIALLY when you're stuck inside a tin can for months, possibly years.
I find it so funny when people consuming milk call themselves vegetarian..lol
"Tastes right and feels wrong -Trace " should be on a T-shirt
Oomg it’d be my dream job to do these experiments.... finally lab experiments you can eat 😍😍
I wish they would talk more about how the lab grown meat was created instead of just saying “it tasted bad”.
Ethics are not universal. You don't have a right to inflict yours on other people. Geoff Who notes North Korea.
So basically your'e saying that if the rape culture is permissible in a country, it should be justifiable ?
It was kind of off-putting hearing her say "something like....(statistic)" If you're going to state a statistic, then have the actual statistic and a source.
The biggest cultural barrier is that most people's favorite foods either don't or didn't until recently exist in a vegan form that wasn't gross. Lab grown meat wasn't a thing until very recently, and when omnivores think of "vegetarian version" of their favorite food they think of a disgusting meal. Imagine telling the average person "No more steak, pizza, eggs, burgers, gyros" or anything else with meat, eggs, or dairy" because to them that's what you're saying. There are no viable alternatives in most people's minds to meat because they're imagining the disgusting vegetarian burgers from the 90's.
If I was on a plane crash on a deserted Island, and there are people dead on impact I'm gonna eat em', they're dead they don't give a frack. But if some kid says "oh no thats my daddy" then I'll say "ok we'll bury him and that other dude". Then I'll look for somebody else "Anybody recognize this dude? No? Great lets eat!".....i've thought about this alot...
Lab grown meat will have many issues with mono culture crops. Even if the meat is fortified, there will be production cost reductions that will harm the quality and healthiness of the product. It will not be a conspiracy, its just how things happen.
Could lab grown MEAT be VEGETARIAN? No. Its very straightforward. Ethics aside: meat is meat, and vegetables are vegetables
Apparently human meat is nutritionally the most optimal for humans, it contains the same composition of amino acids and fatty acids of our body so that makes sense. Imagine making meat from your self and using it as your own personal, tailored food.
Meat is expensive. We run out of money and meat is the first to go.
Pretty sure many plants will go first. But I dunno what you mean about "running out of money"
When it two checks to make a rent or mortgage payment a month you run out of money to feed a family fast. If you live on Social Security and you get paid at the first of the month there is no money until the next month. When you are low on food and you have $100 in the bank you may not want to spend all the money you have left in the world on food. That is what I mean by running out of money.
More importantly, could lab grown meat give me a wife???
When Spaniards conquered the Aztecs, the forbid the human sacrifice from which the meat was used for a ceremonial dish known to this day (pozole) so the Aztecs said, "it's ok we can use that pork animal you brought, it tastes just the same.
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Painlessly harvesting bits of animal to eat leaving the animal alive for another day.... that kind of sounds like vampirism. We're vampires now! Kind of neat.
What about the millions of years of evolution. We have canine teeth for a reason. We are omnivores.
Helicondrummer We are omnivores cuz we have chosen to be so. The evolution did not bring us here. Our dietary habit is not evolutionary.
Also, our canines are nothing like other omnivores. The canines we have are for cutting through hard skinned fruits.
She made some excellent points. Love her.
Hopefully, it would be widely accepted among meat-eaters, because from my experience, most vegans/vegetarians would not like the idea. I think I'm one of the few who would try it.
This is a really round about way of saying: YES, this is still meat.
Hypothetical: Could we feed ourselves by using human cells that we %100 percent grow "humanely" are we still cannibals? Yes >_>
11:36 Nobody has a problem with restrictions in general.
I like that there are restrictions that say nobody may punch me, steal from me, kill me or eat my cat. And I'm willing to accept that in return I also don't may do this to someone else.
People only have a problem with restrictions when they are not (yet) used to not doing it.
I am vegan and I'm not not eating meat because I don't "may" eat meat as a vegan, I do not eat meat because I don't want to. I'm sure I would still like the taste and texture, but perhaps I would also like the taste of humans and that was never a big enough reason for me to eat humans.
I know she doesn’t need anymore meat
If we could 'ethically' grow meat, we could then simply consume/inject/deliver the serum used to grow the cells directly to our own cells. Wouldn't eating be obsolete at that point? Of course, our digestive system would then be a liability.
Fascinating discussion and certainly raises questions, highlights ethical and cultural issues surrounding whatever one's personal moral frame of reference, nevertheless remains a significant source of protein for many persons in the world. Hopefully, lab-grown meat will eventually become an acceptable and ethical choice for those who want to eliminate traditional meat-sourced proteins from their diets.
To be honest, 4 from 5 people i already ate never said that it is ok or not.
So stop thinking about it. Just "live" and do what makes you feel better.
The only thing that you should never forget ist to discuss it with them, why you do it, sothat they understand.
If you think getting people to stop eating meat will save these animals you’re just short sighted. Without demand for the meat people won’t raise these domestic animals. So you’re basically saying they are better off not existing at all than eventually becoming a meal for a hungry person. It’s a symbiotic relationship.
Lab grown chicken is too spongy but people are out here eating chicken McNuggets
Peta is evil
Texture won’t be an issue when the technology arises. Whether we reach a replicate texture, people won’t care. Think chicken nuggets, hot dogs, and paddies.
Am I the only idiot that was searching for the part 3 in his channel and realizing that they haven't make it yet?
I started losing interest as soon as PETA was brought into the conversation, though I was also expecting something a little less biased and a little more scientific, not really looking forward to part 3 now...
+Sharruken They didn’t present any of the ethical arguments from peta anyway. Only talked about what they believe.
I'm not offended, however, I feel like Peta shouldn't be brought up during any sort of discussion about whether lab grown meat is ethical or not, mainly due to how unethical Peta's treatment of animals has been over the years, it just has no place here
Sharruken pffff you are just irrational. pETA was only mentioned as the primary founder for lab grown meat. And they clarified the reasons for that funding. Which are conform with PETA’s valúes.
Also please don’t make the mistake of basing the relevance of a fact of the source. It’s the research and the evidence that’s determining when it comes to facts doesn’t matter who’s the source .
You probably do not like Hitler but hey hitler also belived and said 1+1= 2
Just becouse you dislike Hitler doesn’t mean his statement of 1+1=2 is not true
Good day.
"how unethical Peta's treatment of animals has been over the years"
You're funny.
You say there is a bias problem and then you are talking about how Peta is treating animals unethical.
This whole "Peta kills animals" campaign is run by the "Center for Organizational Research and Education" and they are funded by companies of which many are doing animal testing or are selling animal products. Isn't it a bit hypocritical that those people are blaming Peta for killing animals? But at least it's pretty easy to figure out why they are blaming Peta.
Okay, but besides the fact who is blaming Peta, isn't it still a problem when Peta kills animals? Just like Nope Nope said, when Hitler says 1+1=2 it's still true.
Well, it definitely looks like a problem when you are one of those persons who only read the headline an perhaps the first paragraph.
But you should be really skeptical in the first place when you read that an NGO for animals is killing many animals. OR at least you should ask for the background. I mean that sounds like the story of a villain from a really bad comic or a trash comic. Why would an NGO harm those they actually want to protect?
The real problem are all those people who are buying (not adopting) pets even if they aren't able to handle the responsibility that comes with them. That leads to many stray animals in really unhealthy conditions where any vet would decide to euthanize the animal. But I don't see any "Vets are killing animals" campaigns. Why not? Because they don't have those enemies Peta has.
And then there are all these no-kill shelters. If you just look at their numbers they seem like nice people. But it also happens that animals are rejected by no-kill shelters because they are in a state where euthanization is the most reasonable option and they want to keep their numbers clean.
Unfortunately, the world is no pink and fluffy unicorn wonderland. Many stupid people are buying many poor pets and kick them out as soon as the poop on the floor because they don't take them for a walk. I think it's a good thing when Peta doesn't care about their numbers and rather the animals and about what's best for them. Even if that's their death.
"Vegetarian "
"7 thousand fully-grown animals on average" i mean i guess if they're chickens? There's no way that in my lifetime I'd eat 7 thousand fully grown COWS right?
Also, about the whole lab grown meat stuff... I think the best possibility for all parties is for the animal slaughters to be partially replaced with lab grown meat. This makes it so that less animals are killed and those that are still being slaughtered are being used thoroughly, like the natives did with bison. As long as there is no waste when it comes to animals, I think it's all good :p
"It's easy to be vegetarian in the east." Yeah, try going to a restaurant in Japan and ask them for something that doesn't have fish or fish biproducts.
Jello shots are an irreplaceable part of young adult life in the US
" I had a friend over for dinner. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a Chianti."
There are many cultural questions, Blah, Blah, Blah. I believe the term "Meat" is likely to have a rather highly personal definition to many, with the exception of those that need a definition for industrial reasons, but for many of us, the term "Meat" was used almost before we had language in our lives, and so it was almost autistic (without words) that we simply consumed it, as a food stuff, with out definition. You don't need a definition, to consume it, simply chew and swallow. Anything other than that is simply "icing on the cake", what's "icing," and what's "cake" you don't need it to survive. The many new creations are what is causing the need for many nuanced definitions and distinctions.
As far as "MEAT" is concerned, The many sensations that are associated with consuming "meat" be it beef, chicken, or fish, if any of those sensations are missing from the "consumable" well the value will be diminished, and the product is likely to fall into disfavor, and maybe disuse. I don't know what else really needs to be said. There's always going to be differences and different reaction to things due to "CULTURAL DIFFERENCES" and so they can have different reactions and so reap the differences according to their own reactions.
About "eating human" there's a long standing aversion to eating human, aside from having "Uncle Louie over for dinner some evening" , but I think there is a distinction far more essential than the usual reasons, and that is , the communication of communicable diseases, the blood brain barrier, the inter species barriers, the huge gene pool of interrelated diseases that would NOT be restricted. Suddenly those diseases cross the barriers into humans, Oh My Gosh, we're suddenly, just something to be consumed by anything in the world. I just don;t wanna be there, and nor should others.
One really severe problem is that the functioning immune system, living in the human flesh, suppressing all the forms of disintegrating chemistries and diseases, wanting to live off this human flesh, when de-energized, suddenly the human flesh eating things are unleashed, are able to grow and mutate, and gain huge strength against our human defenses, and suddenly we are defenseless, and when these anti-human life forms are amplified and enabled , well as i said before, you don't want to be there and nobody else wants to be there either.
It's not vegetarian at all. But it is ethical meat maybe. But still its animal. Without question.
You mean it’s not ok to eat humans now? Well there goes dinner plans.
Theoretically, if someone writes in their will that they want to be eaten by people after their death, would eating them actually be the ethical thing to do? I mean, it's generally considered unethical to override someone's final wish.
Lab Grown meat, the perfect choice for cannibals and plant grown meat, the perfect choice for vegans
Good meaty discussion. Thanks, Seeker!
Hi Trace. The first 10 seconds made me hungry...
it's dangerous T.V. same bro
#whereschase
who tf chase?
id try human. why not, no one died for it so im eating human, not a person.
That's caused by kuru virus and prions both of which would not be in lab grown human meat.
www.healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/spotlight-why-cannibalism-bad-you-72612
If science could grow meat that's reasonably approximate to the real thing, in taste and price, I would turn "vegetarian" tomorrow.
It's baby! It's what's for dinner! The other, other white meat.
I'd be fine eating lab grown meat. But just as some people believe as she said that eating meat is some sort of power trip, the majority of people look at it for what it is.. Fuel. I do not eat meat because I "love it".. I eat it because it has easy to access proteins and other vital minerals that my body needs. Can I get them from plant products? Sure, some of them. But not all. Now does that make me a savage in the eyes of some people? I'm sure it does. If we survive long enough, these sorts of issues will be sorted out by things like lab grown meat.. However, if you take it just a step further down the road.. Why bother growing meat anyways? Why not just go all Jetsons and create a pill that has everything you need for each meal in a day? I'd be very okay with that.
Edit: I'm not sure where this whole not going vegetarian or vegan is because it isn't masculine? Why was that even said? Is everything being boiled down to a damned false dichotomy now days? Who are these people that go around and make decisions solely on a question of not enough/too much masculinity?? If such people exist, perhaps it is an issue with those individuals in particular, and not an entire group of people that happen to have a commonality of traits that align on the more masculine side of the scale.
I realize this is an anecdote, but I have never met someone who has ever said anything about their manhood (or lack thereof) in regards to eating a salad over meat, or vice versa. It is almost always a "I like the taste" kinda thing. Your biology rewards you for eating, because your body and the multitude of cells that make it up need you to eat for continued functioning.. So you are rewarded with stimulants by eating things, even more so of the things you like. Its a biologically drug driven thing, not a "it isn't man enough!" thing.
Let us not forget, we humans are animals. We are omnivores for a very particular reason.. It works. Our species has nearly been wiped out at least 3 separate times over the last 200,000 years.. We have major genetic bottlenecks to prove this.. Being able to eat just about anything we come across is a pretty damn good survival trait. If you really want to help the planet, one person at a time.. Eat what you must, and only as much as you need. Do that, and you're exactly like every other animal out there.
I wasn't aware of those details with lab grown meat. Hopefully they get it down better. A LOTTT of research money should be going into that.. if it's successful.. that would be one of the biggest steps for humanity.
I don't think the lab-grown stuff could really be called "vegan" or "vegetarian," there just needs to be some new term for "animal biology, but no thinking beings harmed." Then everyone could decide for themselves. Maybe "brainless meat?"
People don't like being vegitterians because predators, including humans, have evolved to eat prey animals. THE CIRCLE OF LIFE!
oh also in india there's a restaurant that if you order chicken (i know a meat restaurant in india is like a paradox) the box the chicken comes in also charges your phone.
I couldn't care less about the eithical implications of manufacturing and/or eating non-sentient animal products. I will continue to eat and consume them, however, I do care about the environmental implication and sustainability of eating meat, which is why I am infavour of increased taxation on farm bread (non endangered) species, inorder to protect these things.
The meat industry could actually be good for the environment with a few changes. But yeah, lab grown meat could be more efficient... that is if they can ever get the taste down.
Or maybe we should respect both plants and animals and understand our place as stewards of nature rather than treating life like a freaking machine.... People never consider that the grasslands needed to raise a grassfed cows offset the carbon and methane that the cows generate. Instead we cut all that crap down for efficiency, sprawl, and to grow monocrops like corn and wheat. Native Americans and other indigenous populations understood this relationship far better than we do. Life isn't meant to fit into rows & squares.
Ah, a Trace, with some fava beans and a nice chianti. Simply sublime. Can we hear again the intro and outro music please?
Wow just what I'm thinking about when eating a burger is how much resources used to produce the burger. I'm sure it $11 Patty is the answer to Walmart's prayers. What a waste of Human Resources to try to even make it.
In the future real meat will be a precious comodity, lab grown meat is what we the masses will eat, mark my words
Good to know that it's not illegal, Trace.